1871-72: How Charles Alcock Revolutionised English Football

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  • Опубліковано 7 гру 2023
  • Discover the fascinating history of competitive association football in England! Learn how the Football Association transformed friendly matches into a thrilling season with prizes at stake. Join us as we delve into the beginnings of organized football and the pivotal role of Charles Alcock, the association's visionary secretary-general. Don't miss out on this exciting journey through time - subscribe now!
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  • @Matt_the_football_geek
    @Matt_the_football_geek 4 місяці тому +7

    Marvelous! This Charles Alcock fellow is an absolute genius. What a splendid notion, that knockout competition. I daresay this shall evolve into a cherished tradition. Furthermore, I am delighted that Alcock's team emerged victorious in the inaugural tournament. It transpired perfectly! Onward, Wanderers!

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  4 місяці тому +1

      They were a great team of their day Wanderers. Of no fixed abode too, playing at many different home venues

  • @jimmybeatyjb
    @jimmybeatyjb 10 днів тому +2

    The blue plaque marking Alcocks birthplace is in Norfolk st ,200 yards along the same street there is a building that in the 1870s was known as the British day school .Where the Sunderland association football club was formed

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  9 днів тому

      Ah yes, I knew Sunderland were formed by school teachers but I didn't know whereabouts. Easy to forget that Alcock was from the north east as he went to Harrow and played for southern teams. Thanks for sharing this with me. I am soon going to be doing short videos on players and Alcock will probably be the first as he was so very important in the development of the game. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂👍

  • @GenialHarryGrout
    @GenialHarryGrout 4 місяці тому +3

    Great video

  • @IAMPLEDGE
    @IAMPLEDGE 3 дні тому +1

    Royal Engineers AFC still exist and compete. Their home ground is very close to the Chatham Naval War Memorial. It is the same place as they played in 1872.

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  2 дні тому

      Ah yes, the Lines, nowadays the pitches are in a fixed location I believe, but back then the pitch was marked out wherever they had room. Interesting to note that the Royal Engineers competed in Ireland too while stationed there, winning the Munster Senior Cup in 1903.

  • @bettytigers
    @bettytigers 7 днів тому +2

    A few ideas:
    Warning: (Many suspect me of being eccentric)
    Instead of penalties after extra time, conversions.
    Details:
    Any foul in extra time (in a cup match) could be taken as conversion free kick. The ball is placed (where the foul took place) and an attempt would then be made to kick it directly without interference into the opposition's empty net.
    This would count as a conversion, but would be disregarded in the event of a regular goal during normal extra time play. In the event of a goalless extratime, play would carry on until a converted foul decided the result.
    Comments welcome!
    E. Clough

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  7 днів тому +1

      Interesting idea. Personally, I'd do away with extra time and go straight to penalties. I'd also do away with replays. What I would do though is introduce seeding to give smaller teams an increased chance of getting a tie against a big club, which helps them financially as well as giving the fans a great day out.

    • @spiderkins
      @spiderkins 2 дні тому +1

      @@BritanniaFootball Penalties when introduced were not accepted by the players who considered accepting a penalty kick to be ungentlemanly and consequently, unsporting.

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  День тому

      I think the real problem is fixture congestion. You can't have multiple replays nowadays because of the amount of fixtures it would produce. I'm fine with penalties as it's better than tossing a coin which has been done in the past. I would say though, that there are too many valueless competitions and far too many European places for certain countries. We need to get back to basics in football. It is just my opinion, may not be for everyone 🙂

  • @mktf5582
    @mktf5582 3 місяці тому +2

    Since you are called Britannia could you expand to do = British Football/clubs/players/managers, great video btw from a new subscriber.

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for your kind review and for subscribing, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I will certainly expand in the future to do much more. I am trying to streamline my video production to make it more efficient. When I've achieved that I will branch out. The channel was always intended to be principally about football in England, but as we have Welsh teams in our leagues and have at times had Scottish and Irish teams in the FA Cup, I needed a name that would cover that, and United Kingdom Football sounds a bit formal so I chose Britannia. Thank you for your suggestion, there are some great players and managers from the other countries and I would love to cover that at a later date 👍

    • @mktf5582
      @mktf5582 3 місяці тому +1

      @@BritanniaFootball Britannia sounds fine/cool/prestigious for the name = love the name in general anyway, hopefully more videos frequently and untold history/stories to come.

  • @user-wp8vy8le3y
    @user-wp8vy8le3y 3 місяці тому +2

    Doesn't this clip just point up the prevalence of the class system in the UK - the point being that it was an old Harrovian Public School member who initiated that great British institution - the FA Cup in this country ?
    I attended a traditional Grammar School in the north of England as recently as the 1970s - and football was really 'frowned upon' - it was all about rugby union, hockey and cricket ! Which was probably unrealistic even then - as most of the boys would always prefer football to rugby. Mind you - I did enjoy Latin and being taught to spell and punctuate correctly !

    • @BritanniaFootball
      @BritanniaFootball  3 місяці тому

      Times have definitely changed. Being from Gloucestershire myself, rugby was definitely preferred at our school too, even though it was only a comprehensive. Football always has and always will be my passion though 🙂