VeeWise thoughts on IESF 1-0 rule on Finals

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 164

  • @pilipinas373
    @pilipinas373 Рік тому +11

    fair rule upper bracket should have an advantage.

    • @CCraMM
      @CCraMM Рік тому +3

      pra san pa nag upper bracket, prang un n ung premyo ng upper bracket, kc hnd p cla natalo best of 3,, pra saken fair ang +1 s upper bracket...

    • @ahmadkhoirunnizam2694
      @ahmadkhoirunnizam2694 Рік тому +2

      tingnan mo ang nakaraang Dota finals. Hindi naman iyon problema.

    • @lazygardeneasylife2774
      @lazygardeneasylife2774 Рік тому

      Ok Naman Sana un kng best of 5 or best of 3 kng walang talo Ang Indo... unfair din kc best of 3 lng tapos gagapangin ulit ng lower pataas.
      Pero ganun paman sumunod ka nlng sa rules kc cla nmn talaga nagpapalaro

  • @ahmadihsan7410
    @ahmadihsan7410 Рік тому +22

    Veenus question what if they in upper bracket also get +1 point?
    The answer yes,like PH's Dota2 team

    • @dae_ks4888
      @dae_ks4888 Рік тому +2

      Clever's counter 👍👍👍

  • @Einzelganger111
    @Einzelganger111 Рік тому +4

    I think rule like this is not bad. requires each team to fight hardly from the beginning to win the upper bracket, making no team give up on purpose so they can play in the lower bracket.

  • @johanphilip4549
    @johanphilip4549 Рік тому +9

    RULE IS FAIR, LOOK IN DOTA 2, PH GET +1 STILL LOSE 3-2 TO ID XD

  • @eugenegavilan8000
    @eugenegavilan8000 Рік тому +13

    For sure before the said tournament all the officials, management or commissioner and delegates of each country agree on this format. And in the sense that they don't loss one match for the entire playoffs like a bunos points for there performance but I trust the PH meta still Filipino standing on the podium for Gold.

    • @jaysonforteza8654
      @jaysonforteza8654 Рік тому +1

      masyadong toxic lang talaga yung mga fans na hindi nakakaintindi sa format ng tournament.

    • @frankcadillac1456
      @frankcadillac1456 Рік тому

      Cambodia will derail PH silver to bronze

    • @ahmadkhoirunnizam2694
      @ahmadkhoirunnizam2694 Рік тому +1

      Just look at DOTA final brother. PH +1 Nevermine

  • @toral3861
    @toral3861 Рік тому +5

    Karna mereka kalah makanya mereka komplain. Dota mereka menang di upper dan dapet point 1 mereka diem aja. Mental pemain yang sangat menjijikan untuk di perlihatkan oleh tim sekelas blacklist 🤮.

    • @marvinsantos6763
      @marvinsantos6763 Рік тому

      I don't think you get it, they just explained what has transpired to the rules of the tournament, though he did not read the rules prior to the game and advised the viewers to calm down and not to bring down speculations why Indonesia is at advantage, its only iesf, for team PH, just doin same warm ups for the next year upcoming M4 your country have to be proud bec indonesia finally get a championship (iesf) for team PH, its only warm up, so be glad ok?

    • @vzrgo
      @vzrgo Рік тому

      kemampuan literasi anda yg menjijikkan, dia bukan komplen tapi menjelaskan rules +1 dan mereka menerima. belajar MEMBACA dek

    • @staycalm8117
      @staycalm8117 Рік тому

      @@marvinsantos6763 wtf you're talking about lmao they clearly don't know the rules cause theirs own fault then complaining 🤡💀

    • @staycalm8117
      @staycalm8117 Рік тому

      @@vzrgo lu yg literasinya kurang blok + English lu jg gk bagus brrti 😂

  • @theexcelproject6973
    @theexcelproject6973 Рік тому +14

    Fair point from Veenus. If the rule was there from the start, then it should hold.

  • @mrdshow3651
    @mrdshow3651 Рік тому +1

    Every lose said unfair

  • @teguhkusuma5078
    @teguhkusuma5078 Рік тому +5

    I think its fair for upper bracket winner to get advantage +1. Coz the lower bracket have their own advantage to get 1 more life after lose. But the upper bracket usually dont get any even tho they never lose once in knock out.

  • @creed258
    @creed258 Рік тому

    Ginagawa nila lhat pra mag champion na bansa nila. Nkaka awa sila

    • @staycalm8117
      @staycalm8117 Рік тому +1

      Loser keep barking without knowing the rules 😂

  • @qxezwcs
    @qxezwcs Рік тому +1

    Tama din naman kasi… dire-direchong panalo, once lang matalo sa mismong finals at ang makatalo ay yung may talo na din kumbaga ang lalabas pareho lang sa standing yung direcho panalo at sa finals lang natalo at yung kalaban na minsan natalo sa una pero tuluy-tuloy ng nanalo hanggang finals.

  • @maestro2324
    @maestro2324 Рік тому +10

    Yes, the rule is fair. But the question is, did Venus and his teammates actually have knowledge of this from the start? So they would have played the first match against indo like it was the finals be cause that win was crucial? Just saying...

    • @zeinzz3631
      @zeinzz3631 Рік тому +6

      Of they don't know know it, it probably because of the team management. Because it clearly not Bias. Almost Every game is getting +1 from for winning from the upper bracket except Pubg probably.

    • @dae_ks4888
      @dae_ks4888 Рік тому +8

      Coz they believed that Ph can go to upper bracket final and they didnt have any problem of that. But they go to the lower and then speak of bullshit. RIP technical meeting.

    • @EDWARD-zd7lb
      @EDWARD-zd7lb Рік тому +1

      I think blacklist staff knows it, i dont know about the players, if players dont know it then it's blacklist management fault.

    • @F3Y_030
      @F3Y_030 Рік тому +1

      @@EDWARD-zd7lb As a manager it's their job to inform the players. Like if the meta changed, but the players doesn't know about it and the management didn't inform them, because they're overconfident. Seems unlikely right?

    • @EDWARD-zd7lb
      @EDWARD-zd7lb Рік тому +1

      @@F3Y_030 That's what i said mate, it's their managements fault.

  • @hypercelis01
    @hypercelis01 Рік тому +4

    Kahit sa Dota 2 merong ganyang format. Kaya crucial dapat na manalo kayu sa group stage.

  • @jaggerjaques2849
    @jaggerjaques2849 Рік тому

    Madalas naman talaga may advantage ang upper bracket winner. Ang pinagkaiba lang sa tournament na ito ay may +1 UB winner kaysa sa same day ang UB at LB finals.

  • @defanowilliam4855
    @defanowilliam4855 Рік тому +1

    Go evos 🗿❣️

  • @rachanel1052
    @rachanel1052 Рік тому +1

    Logikanya gini aja deh misalkan tim pH di posisi indo padahal SMA sama dapet keuntungan udahlah koar koar mulu ini ph

  • @YURI-uq5qh
    @YURI-uq5qh Рік тому +1

    Tanong ko lng ano po ba inag kaiba ng rules and regulations ng upcoming M4 kisa sa IESF? sana masagut🥰

    • @widiirawan2315
      @widiirawan2315 Рік тому

      No bro iesf in indonesian rules for indonesian but m4 m series rules for moonton

  • @ahmadkhoirunnizam2694
    @ahmadkhoirunnizam2694 Рік тому +7

    Lol, See Dota Final bro. Pinoy +1 from the start. Its ok nevermine

    • @xhavionseirra1497
      @xhavionseirra1497 Рік тому

      wow, is it true? i dont watch dota...

    • @staycalm8117
      @staycalm8117 Рік тому

      @@xhavionseirra1497 yes n they're still losing to Indonesia lmao

  • @3k4tube
    @3k4tube Рік тому +1

    Very good attitude

  • @p0k3r
    @p0k3r Рік тому +12

    it's still unfair

    • @luthfy6572
      @luthfy6572 Рік тому +4

      if you want a fair competition, why don't you make your own ?

    • @CoCo-mm4mv
      @CoCo-mm4mv Рік тому

      @@luthfy6572 you just prove that his correct 🙄🙄 READ YOUR COMMENT AGAIN POOR BRAIN. so you agreed that IESF isn't fair competition ewwww 🥴🥴 that's what happened when you try to be savage but have poor condition of mind 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    • @neilsustiguer8324
      @neilsustiguer8324 Рік тому +2

      Fair. Yes, most competitions with double elimation had that kind of advantage. Others call it twice to beat advantage. But kinda unnecessary since lower bracket has to many matches and the one on top able to rest and strategize. We can't really argue since they have agreed with this kind of format. Nasanay lang talaga tau sa mpl, MSC, at M series... Kung saan walang ganon advantage ung nasa upper bracket.

    • @mobyred
      @mobyred Рік тому +5

      I think it's fair. Since there's no bracket reset in MLBB tournaments. Since EVOS won their matches in the upper bracket, it's just right that they have the advantage in the grand finals. Cause once they lose in the series they won't have another chance of winning.

    • @mikmaks7393
      @mikmaks7393 Рік тому +1

      Thats the rules from the start. If they thought it's unfair, then they shouldn't have joined.

  • @kjconline2137
    @kjconline2137 Рік тому

    Kesa naman twice to beat. Mostly ganyan sa sports pag LB vs UB

  • @lexopims3660
    @lexopims3660 Рік тому

    Kelan ung finals?

  • @gabsz1009
    @gabsz1009 Рік тому

    Ganyan talaga pag dehado may plus para naman kahit papano may pumusta sa kanila

  • @Speedup590
    @Speedup590 Рік тому

    egg meta was banned No more 0:3

    • @Shehshat1522
      @Shehshat1522 Рік тому +1

      A team can still be egg in the grand finals if they come from the lower bracket.

    • @amadeus7320
      @amadeus7320 Рік тому +2

      Nope, BLCK is 3-0 in the final 🤡

    • @F3Y_030
      @F3Y_030 Рік тому +1

      This didn't aged well

  • @listerasi_cuek
    @listerasi_cuek Рік тому +1

    Save Samsung
    Save Device
    Ph Kalah Banyak Alasan 🤣

    • @vivianlabong5060
      @vivianlabong5060 Рік тому

      Are you sure bro? Hahhaa
      #indog
      #indoreason
      #Albert the winter truncheon gods
      Hahahaha😂😂😂😏😏😏

    • @CCraMM
      @CCraMM Рік тому

      no reasons bruh... 😩
      I'm from PH but i think it's practically fair for the upper bracket finalist to have +1 win... it just happened that indo is in the upper bracket finalist...

    • @F3Y_030
      @F3Y_030 Рік тому

      @@vivianlabong5060 That's not a reason bruh, that's a roast.

  • @forgeranya1349
    @forgeranya1349 Рік тому

    bakit hndi ganun sa m3 dati?? sana mext year sa m4 ganito din may ganito sa final

  • @lakikku8887
    @lakikku8887 Рік тому +2

    PH just small country

    • @jvnovember315
      @jvnovember315 Рік тому +1

      Not as small as yours. Ooops

    • @faruq3927
      @faruq3927 Рік тому +1

      @@jvnovember315 "not as small as yours" u're so funny mate

    • @aldrinmanji6421
      @aldrinmanji6421 Рік тому +1

      @@jvnovember315 ooooooohh buuurn 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @staycalm8117
      @staycalm8117 Рік тому

      @@jvnovember315 not PIGNOY try to teaching English lmao

    • @faruq3927
      @faruq3927 Рік тому

      @@staycalm8117 lolololol he's killing me🤣 what a joke

  • @mikealagbay8920
    @mikealagbay8920 Рік тому

    Nahiya pa sila sana plus 2 nalang 😂✌️✌️

  • @kikidoulabme4121
    @kikidoulabme4121 Рік тому +1

    buti pa yung veewise sinasabi “fair” pero yung mga lowpts sinasabi unfair daw HAHAH

    • @zeinzz3631
      @zeinzz3631 Рік тому +2

      Nah it is, every game is getting +1 for winning the upper except Pubg. And its not Bias, if you don't believe it, Ph Dota2 team is also having it.

    • @imabot9194
      @imabot9194 Рік тому

      Wala sa points Yan
      Opinion lang

    • @kikidoulabme4121
      @kikidoulabme4121 Рік тому

      @@imabot9194 hanap ka pro player na 3digit highest

  • @roticoklat6016
    @roticoklat6016 Рік тому +1

    noob

  • @keananreygarcenila1647
    @keananreygarcenila1647 Рік тому +7

    Maybe that's their only way to have an international title. That's why they use dirty tactics inside the rules. They will do everything just to have title even it is dirty. Poor team.

    • @delfal9347
      @delfal9347 Рік тому

      Anda adalah orang yang hina

    • @mikmaks7393
      @mikmaks7393 Рік тому +11

      If BL was in the UB and first finalist, they would have this advantage. So why would you think thats the case?

    • @Ghost-qx5hy
      @Ghost-qx5hy Рік тому +1

      @@mikmaks7393 Blck or not, what's the point of puting the free point here

    • @jomarpenaflor9396
      @jomarpenaflor9396 Рік тому +11

      @@Ghost-qx5hy reward yun kasi undefeated pa sila. Kung nasa rules naman un wala dapat i iyak.

    • @badutmpl7047
      @badutmpl7047 Рік тому +1

      @@jomarpenaflor9396 👍

  • @sekwatiboy980
    @sekwatiboy980 Рік тому

    Nanghinge pa ng partida yung indogs hahahhaha

  • @DaughtersSiblings
    @DaughtersSiblings Рік тому +1

    SA ML LANG 1-0 PERO SA DOTA HINDI...

    • @listerasi_cuek
      @listerasi_cuek Рік тому +2

      Siapa yang juara Dota hem🤔 Yeah Indonesia Champions Dota🤭 Apakah anda punya alasan kenapa pilipina kalah dengan Indonesia apakah karna Pc? PH PH PH, DI NA KAYO NATUTO 🤣😂

    • @EDWARD-zd7lb
      @EDWARD-zd7lb Рік тому +2

      Nanood ka ba ng DOTA 2? plus 1 agad yung team PH dun kaso natalo sila, kung di mo pa napapanood wag mong sabihin wala nun sa DOTA 2.

    • @F3Y_030
      @F3Y_030 Рік тому +1

      You're just assuming without actually finding the truth. Just to protect your dignity.

  • @johnpaulsimbulan4831
    @johnpaulsimbulan4831 Рік тому

    What DfacHAHAHAHAHHA para lang makuha

  • @mielo847
    @mielo847 Рік тому +8

    Ayaw kasi nila ma 3-0 sila ng ph

    • @sikkapsinaga8947
      @sikkapsinaga8947 Рік тому +2

      Iya saya tau maksud anda ID 3 - 0 ph

    • @nostragaming505
      @nostragaming505 Рік тому +1

      @@sikkapsinaga8947 like msc rsg ph defeat rrq 4-0 😜

    • @markbeast4512
      @markbeast4512 Рік тому

      @@sikkapsinaga8947 keep dreaming bro

    • @sikkapsinaga8947
      @sikkapsinaga8947 Рік тому +1

      Saya yakin jika PH kalah akan membuat alasan lagi. Contohnya latihan memakai samsung, lag ping, apalagi alasannya 😳 tetapi jika menang tidak ada alasan haha.aneh

    • @markbeast4512
      @markbeast4512 Рік тому

      @@sikkapsinaga8947 same as you guys Indonesian, if your team loses so many excuses😂😂😂you guys even report pro players IG what a shame and toxic fans you guys are. And ofc no reason because they win lol. Think better man

  • @emelang704
    @emelang704 Рік тому

    Kung sino pa ang lyamado or upper ehh sya pa may +.. Hahahah

    • @jaysonforteza8654
      @jaysonforteza8654 Рік тому +1

      advantage yung ng team na hindi matatalo sa elimination. regardless kung sinong team pa ang magiging waiting sa finals. may briefing naman yan sa simula palang ng tournament.

    • @raygienativdad9659
      @raygienativdad9659 Рік тому

      Malamang, de sana nagpatalo nalang sila kung yung galing sa lower bracket ang may +1.

  • @mamawromo6947
    @mamawromo6947 Рік тому

    kailan game sa lower bracket finals?

  • @pooptv679
    @pooptv679 Рік тому

    NO MAGIC NO WIN 🤣 thats indo