Mary Tudor is my 15th great grand aunt Margaret Tudor was my 15th great grandmother, I am related to all of the James’ James v was my 14th great grandfather, mary Stuart was a half aunt same dad different mother than her sibling I am directly related to. Wonderful to see so many people interested in my anscestors although it wasn’t always beautiful they were living their lives in another time and they were hard times for all of them I cannot imagine. So thank you for taking the time to appreciate and draw respect to the Tudor women who were taken for granted and the stuarts. My line eventually immigrated to Virginia in the USA.
Thank you for sharing this. I had never heard this perspective and personally find it very likely. We so often put our own feelings about situations onto people in the past that unfortunately even scholars allow bias to rule. As you noted we can only go based on info from the past and as we only get certain perspectives there as well we can never know the truth. In reality these were people, like us, not characters or one dimensional beings. They loved, made mistakes, did good & bad. We can never fully understand their lives or why they made the choices they did. Frankly I think people are to harsh on Henry VIII as well. People forget he was king! Thrown in as the spare and in that time male heirs were absolutely required to continue the lineage of rule. We look back at his relationships in an emotional manner ignoring the reality that to him - a son was a requirement. I think he truly believed God was punishing him for wedding Catherine as he was beginning to go into protestant faith. Which meant no matter what the Pope said - God was angry! I believe he loved her but felt betrayed as she refused to end it. We are so focused on the women now, which is amazing because for so long history overlooked them. But we are now ignoring the full picture in all situations. As you mentioned we don’t know what people really did, honestly who wrote it all? And those who did leave records are of course biased as well. I think its best to understand the full picture while trying to understand them people and the lives they lived. So thank you for your perspective and I too believe it’s important that we can all have and share our different opinions respectfully. Its the best way to learn from each other. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I’m excited to look into this further. Best wishes
We don't consider Mary Tudor a pious monarch in Spain!! There may be a metro station with her name but, considering a lot of streets all over the country are named after fascists generals, I don't think that station means anything...
I'm listening to this interview now. If someone came up to me and asked me a few questions about Queen Mary I would a few things. I knew she was married to Phillip II of Spain. Who here parents were and her first husband. She wasn't as horrible as she was made out to be. It is difficult to think of her as having a good life. She was mistreated by her father and husband. Before I leave I have to say I detest historical fiction. I have so many people trying to force novels on me. It always makes me explain how deplorable I find it.
All the 'reappraisal' of the villains of history is very dangerous and crypto-dystopian. Two different aspects of a person or even a monarch can co-exist. Just because Protestant propagandists may have exaggerated and presented her as Their Great Monster, which she indeed was. As they say, History is written by the winners. We don't have to say Queen Mary was a great ruler and didn't kill as many people as Elizabeth, (a totally spurious comparison, by the way), Mary ruled for only eight years; Elizabeth, 45. Mary burned most of her victims alive in a short period of time and would have killed many more had she lived, Her misrule wasn't just genocide, but a public relations disaster. Her lack of proportion and fanaticism justly condemned her in History's eyes. Revisionism that would make that evil ruler a victim and a heroine is dangerous, particularly at this time. Shame on this 'writer'. It IS totally fitting Queen Mary is known to us as 'Bloody Mary', that's just what she was.
I agree Mary was a horrible Queen and she killed far more people over religion than Elizabeth, Edward or even Henry did. She would absolutely have murdered many more had she lived longer. I'm sick of the whitewashing of her crimes. Elizabeth's reign would have been no less successful had she inherited the throne from Edward. What little good Mary did do started during Edward's reign. The fixing of the coinage, re-building of the Navy was begun by John Dudley not Mary. Mary's reign was largely a failure.
Oh shut up. The only reason Mary has been given this horrible reputation is because she was Catholic. She followed biblical teachings on the execution of heretics. Why do you think that being hang, drawn and quartered was a better way to perish? It is the narrative of “Good Elizabeth” and “Bad Mary” that is revisionist.
Mary Tudor is my 15th great grand aunt Margaret Tudor was my 15th great grandmother, I am related to all of the James’ James v was my 14th great grandfather, mary Stuart was a half aunt same dad different mother than her sibling I am directly related to. Wonderful to see so many people interested in my anscestors although it wasn’t always beautiful they were living their lives in another time and they were hard times for all of them I cannot imagine. So thank you for taking the time to appreciate and draw respect to the Tudor women who were taken for granted and the stuarts. My line eventually immigrated to Virginia in the USA.
I have bought her book "The myth of "Bloody Mary" A biography of Queen Mary I of England" and am currently reading it.
God I sat and listened to every single word and I must say I throughly enjoyed that xx
As always great information, love these videos!!!
Very informative. Thank you. Now I need your books. 😁
Dr. Porter's attacks on publishers are giving me life
I love this interview so much!!!
you are very welcome!
Mary queen of the Scots has been one of my favs!
Oh.. please talk about Versailles tv show!!! Another good one!!! I wouldn't know who you were talking about if I didn't watch that show! 47:47
Thank you so much, a very interesting show again, I highly appreciate your wonderful work!
Thank you for sharing this. I had never heard this perspective and personally find it very likely. We so often put our own feelings about situations onto people in the past that unfortunately even scholars allow bias to rule. As you noted we can only go based on info from the past and as we only get certain perspectives there as well we can never know the truth. In reality these were people, like us, not characters or one dimensional beings. They loved, made mistakes, did good & bad. We can never fully understand their lives or why they made the choices they did. Frankly I think people are to harsh on Henry VIII as well. People forget he was king! Thrown in as the spare and in that time male heirs were absolutely required to continue the lineage of rule. We look back at his relationships in an emotional manner ignoring the reality that to him - a son was a requirement. I think he truly believed God was punishing him for wedding Catherine as he was beginning to go into protestant faith. Which meant no matter what the Pope said - God was angry! I believe he loved her but felt betrayed as she refused to end it. We are so focused on the women now, which is amazing because for so long history overlooked them. But we are now ignoring the full picture in all situations. As you mentioned we don’t know what people really did, honestly who wrote it all? And those who did leave records are of course biased as well. I think its best to understand the full picture while trying to understand them people and the lives they lived. So thank you for your perspective and I too believe it’s important that we can all have and share our different opinions respectfully. Its the best way to learn from each other. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I’m excited to look into this further. Best wishes
We don't consider Mary Tudor a pious monarch in Spain!! There may be a metro station with her name but, considering a lot of streets all over the country are named after fascists generals, I don't think that station means anything...
Mary Tudor Do not deserve the title she got. Both her father and half sister killed even more people but no one calls them "Bloody".
Interesting you speak for all of Spain.
Let's be thankful Mary did not have children.
I'm listening to this interview now. If someone came up to me and asked me a few questions about Queen Mary I would a few things. I knew she was married to Phillip II of Spain. Who here parents were and her first husband. She wasn't as horrible as she was made out to be. It is difficult to think of her as having a good life. She was mistreated by her father and husband. Before I leave I have to say I detest historical fiction. I have so many people trying to force novels on me. It always makes me explain how deplorable I find it.
All the 'reappraisal' of the villains of history is very dangerous and crypto-dystopian. Two different aspects of a person or even a monarch can co-exist. Just because Protestant propagandists may have exaggerated and presented her as Their Great Monster, which she indeed was. As they say, History is written by the winners. We don't have to say Queen Mary was a great ruler and didn't kill as many people as Elizabeth, (a totally spurious comparison, by the way), Mary ruled for only eight years; Elizabeth, 45. Mary burned most of her victims alive in a short period of time and would have killed many more had she lived, Her misrule wasn't just genocide, but a public relations disaster. Her lack of proportion and fanaticism justly condemned her in History's eyes. Revisionism that would make that evil ruler a victim and a heroine is dangerous, particularly at this time. Shame on this 'writer'. It IS totally fitting Queen Mary is known to us as 'Bloody Mary', that's just what she was.
nonsense
Great points
I agree Mary was a horrible Queen and she killed far more people over religion than Elizabeth, Edward or even Henry did. She would absolutely have murdered many more had she lived longer. I'm sick of the whitewashing of her crimes. Elizabeth's reign would have been no less successful had she inherited the throne from Edward. What little good Mary did do started during Edward's reign. The fixing of the coinage, re-building of the Navy was begun by John Dudley not Mary. Mary's reign was largely a failure.
Ur wrong
Oh shut up. The only reason Mary has been given this horrible reputation is because she was Catholic. She followed biblical teachings on the execution of heretics. Why do you think that being hang, drawn and quartered was a better way to perish? It is the narrative of “Good Elizabeth” and “Bad Mary” that is revisionist.