[Day 8; Part 1]Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson - Jehovah's Witnesses Child Sexual Abuse: 2015-08-14
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Royal Commission was holding a public hearing in Sydney starting Monday 27 July 2015. This is the recoding of day eight, Friday 14 August 2015.
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The public hearing will inquire into the Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd.
The scope and purpose of the public hearing is to inquire into:
The experience of survivors of child sexual abuse within the
Jehovah’s Witnesses Church in Australia.
The response of the Jehovah’s Witnesses Church and the
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd to allegations, reports or complaints of child sexual abuse within the Church.
The systems, policies and procedures in place within the Jehovah’s Witnesses Church and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd for raising and responding to allegations of or concerns about child sexual abuse within the Church.
The systems, policies and procedures in place within the Jehovah’s Witnesses Church and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd to prevent child sexual abuse within the Church.
Any related matters.
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This "wordly" lawyer has just learned more about this organization than any Jehovah's Witness would learn in 50 years
The lawyer was asking unnecessary questions. why would you force modifications that delegates responsibility to women against the scriptural understanding that men are mentioned with regards to leadership roles within the christian congregations
Burbing Berries so true unfortunately
Daniel moya.............the lawyer was trying to get STRAIGHT ANSWERS! JW (like ALL of the JWs), dodge questions, divert attention and bloviate about nothing, JUST like most politicians. *smh* . Sick & sinful.
Kman Let me be bold. You're idiots, no JW would tell you this. For this same reason Jesus stayed silent when question before his death are the reason they stay quiet. It's like being a trumpet, it matters not what you tell them about trump, they'll refuse to listen to truth. In much the same way the true Christian don't bother saying anything to prevent an argument
Hey Doe Boy...Your rationale is equal to that of a grade schooler at best. Also, you're making ASSumptions that you (JWs) hold the truth as if you've got a corner on the market & some insider info. FIRST you bloviate about who knows what (senseless nonsense)...THEN you move on to a statement about Donald Trump is it(?), and THEN you close out with a statement that is utterly absent from any truth whatsoever when you "suggest" that a "TRUE" Christian won't (it's not "DON'T" by the way) bother to say anything to prevent an argument? I know you feel insulted by what I just said but tell ya what...forget the reply unless you feel compelled to stroke your tiny ego a bit, because I won't even view your response, let alone reply to it.
Puts the JW's in the same light as the Catholics they criticize so often. Actually there is one difference, the Pope at least admitted the wrong doing and formally apologized to the victims ( not that it matters anyways because god didn't do anything to protect the children). But the JW's attitude is prideful and a "it's not our fault" demeanor.
Thank YOU for words of TRUTH.
Child molestors come in every size, color, religious background.
You missed something. JW Counsel, discipline, remove as elders and disfellowship unrepentant child molesters. The Catholics church did not Counsel, discipline or remove priests. They just moved them to another Parish where they continued the abuse.
The parents always had the right to report to the authorities. I assume they did not want to subject the child to having to repeat and be cross examined and having to appear and testify to the details of the abuse in open court. That would be very traumatic as well. There is no easy answer.
@@dinahkruppa913 There is so much bullshit in your comment I don’t even know where to begin. Lets see….. most of the pedos ARE your elders, they have their SECRET rulebook so they KNOW what they can get away with. They do shift to other congregations BY the organization itself to avoid “bringing reproach on jehovahs name”. The parents are told this too so they are mentally tied down and it continues. Ofcourse I could go on and on about this evil demonic led organization but you are simply brainwashed to the point you cannot even think for yourself. Its a waste if time and when this organization dies in the next decade or two I will feel real bad for you.
@@dinahkruppa913 maybe u missed the point. JW held and kept files of these rapist and did not, I REPEAT DIDN'T REPORT THE CRIMES TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES. THEY ELDERS AND THE GOVERNING BODY FAILED THE VICTIMS. THEY DIDN'T PROTECT THIER MEMEBERS THEY INSTEAD PROTECTED THE RAPIST.
I thank Australias effort on this. This helped me get out. Never showed up in kindgom halls since 2020. My last involvement was the convention in Melbourne. Glad I visited australia. Love from Philippines.
Glad you made it out brother 🥰 enjoy your freedom
Happy for you🙏 Remember Jesus in your life
Same!
what about that lady that was helping what's his name down in Florida. you blame us for her too?
@krissykatportal freedom to do what? 🤣 sick people
Angus Stewart: And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokespeople on Earth?
Geoffrey Jackson: Ah, that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson god is using.
Watchtower 2001 Jun 1 p.16: "Is it presumptuous of Jehovah's Witnesses to point out that they alone have God's backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God's backing in spite of the Egyptians' belief, or when the first-century Christians claimed to have God's backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists."
+kastakan Thanks kastaken. If that doesn't scream 'dishonesty' on the part of Mr. Jackass, I don't know what does.
IF WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAYING IS WRONG JEHOVAH GOD - THE ALMIGHTY WILL PUT A STOP TO IT ! HE IS IN THE POSITION TO BE DEALT SERIOUSLY BY JEHOVAH . HE IS IN A PRIVLEDGE POSITION. IT'S NOT THE LIE YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE I'M GOING TO HEAVEN TO DRINK MILK AND EAT HONEY. QUESTION, DID NOT JEHOVAH PUNISH HIS OWN PEOPLE WHEN THEY DID WRONG? ARE YOU BETTER THAN HE IS? THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK! JAH SEES ALL THINGS! BUT IF YOU'RE NOT A MEEK AND HUMBLE PERSON YOU WON'T RECIEVE LIFE!
Wally Smitty the ENTIRE organization has been doing wrong since the beginning constantly changing doctrines that have killed people calling it " new light" when the Bible says God does not lie or change scripture meaning. This is a man made organization not of Jehovah
Yep, any rank and file member must obey them to the point of putting the GB's orders ahead of their own life. Say that you don't believe the GB are God's only chosen channel and you'll run the risk of being shunned. But, when it's THEIR ARSE on the line...
OH DAMN. thank you!!! been trying to find something this precise.
Never seen this episode of JW Broadcasting before lol
😂😂😂😂😂 Good one bro!
Best comment ever!
Interesting
Lmao
Right? Don’t remember this one
Is this guy unable to answer ANY question with simple YES or NO? I have the utmost respect for the RC members, they have so much bloody patience... This guy is full of condescending comments towards the RC, and avoids direct answers as much as possible... except for when the 'modern' publications are being read out of... what a load of BS....
Es ist nicht einfach immer ja oder mit nein zu antworten. So geht es auch weltliche, Politiker, Menschen in alle Art nicht nur hier mit Zeugen oder Katholiken oder was weis ich mit wem.
Thank you for making these videos available to the public. It’s very important that everyone (especially JW’s ) watch these and decide for themselves if this Governing body member is being 100% truthful.
They are not being truthful with the word of God.
Jackson complains about judge reading a paper thats 25 yrs old yet he relies on a book that is 1000's of year old to run his life..pppfffftttt
WCVV WCVV the Bible is inspired by God, Jehovah...your not a witness how do you know what goes on
WCVV WCVV Our organization is learning all the x...he’s NOT dancing around. He’s answering the questions..on what was he dancing around that totally stupid name the subject he danced around..he’s using scriptures grow up wake up!,
The ? Is the Bible is inspired? And is a book about Jehovah and his dealings with mankind. Ad that paper that was was outdated...u know nothing u just Hate Jehovah and his people, do u even know how many xs Gods name is in the Bible, u only know a little
Yep. Done with those RETARDS! Baaahaaaa. Oops.
@@k-birdiebear3831 A. he's lying when he says you have freedom to leave the organization. You simply do not. You are either in or out and if you are out they will make a public declaration that you are dissociated and hence no one can talk to you -- He denied that yet it is 100% true. B. When he said it's presumptuous to say that they are not Jehovah God's spokes person on earth, that means, they do not have the right or authority to make the claim that they are guided or speak for Jehovah God, yet every magazine and book you have says that they are the only "channel" to Jehovah God that Jehovah God has approved them and directs them. So if what he says is true then the articles and books where they say that, which he is apart of assembling and distributing, is lying to you based on his testimonial in court. If it was true and since there are scriptures saying that you would be taken before courts to give an account and defend Jehovah, why would you deny that Jehovah is speaking through you, one would think that you'd be proud to have the "truth" and proclaim it boldly in public just like he tells his followers to do. Thats pretty much dancing friend... And when he's presented with conflicting scriptures (Deut 22:22-27 which states that a women that is raped without a witness has valid testimony without a second witness it begs the question, is it only women? why not teenagers and children when they get raped? Where is the scripture that backs that duplicity? What should really shock you is April 1st 1979 watchtower (questions from the readers) in which the GB tells you that you are not a part of the "New Covenant" (only they are) and that Jesus is NOT your mediator and that anything you get from Jesus comes from your friendship with the governing body. So they have placed themselves in between you and Jesus and you have to go through them for life, even though Jesus never said anything that could be mistaken for such a crazy idea. Even when answering the question about not being Jehovahs spokesperson he immediately thereafter adds confusion that maybe others trying to help in ways that are pleasing to Jehovah? He was trying to disguise his original answer by throwing this explanation it to the mix. If you have the truth and you speak for God -- say so! You should do so because you tell others to go out and give a witness based on your belief that God and Jesus are running the organization and therefore you have the "Truth" To say anything but YES for this question is either admitting you are lying to your followers or not directly answering the question (dancing) and confusing the issue because you are afraid. Are Jehovah's people cowards when it comes to speaking the truth?
even thou i lost all my friends and every member of my family is shunning me....i am sooooooooo happy i finally broke free.....
Kedemah Etienne Im only 13 and trying to get out of the religion and don’t know how
me too!!
Those who shun u wont make it to heaven
I didn't now you were allowed to lie so much under oath.
When? He never lied...
@@chasethomas91 when he said that it would be presumptuous to say they are God's only channel was his first lie. That is EXACTLY what they teach.
@@chasethomas91
Jw says the only messages that they preach is the true all othes are wrong.
And listen him.
And one more.
The head or the leaders.
They call them self anointed ones.
But Jesus is the only anointed one.
Acts 4:24.- And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
25.- Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
26.- The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
27.- For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast "ANOINTED", both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath "ANOINTED" me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
THE ONLY ANOINTED ONE IS JESUS. my friend you being deccive.
Read John.1.
Jesus since 2000 years ago warn us that will come false anointed ones.
Matthew. 24:5 .- For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Christ in grek is Cristos.
Cristos in hebrew is Mashiaj.
And God anointed Jesus to become Christ.
The fore jw fulfilling that prophesy.
@@amandalanigan4506 Not a lie at all. The world considers presumptuous that JWs consider themselves the only channel to God, that belief comes from their biblical knowedge, their strict commitment and devotion to the Word of God: the Bible.
@divaquana "Not allowing" doesnt mean "obeying", makes no sense at all. They´re the only christian religion that preach as stated in the Bible too. Being the only channel thru God is not the main point of their preaching, but "wisdom is proved righteous by its works" (Matt: 11: 18,19)
It's far better than any JW Broadcasting episodes I have ever seen
no
Jehovah's Witnesses are YHWH's true worshippers regardless what a few bad apples do.
I have been a Witness for 57 yrs. Baptized at age 30...From childhood I have loved truth. As a teen I would not even read non fiction...My love of absolute truth is stronger than ever...If lie’s , corruption, and hiding of sexual abuses is factual by individuals within the organization it needs to be brought out into to the sun shine for all to see and proper steps taken for correction...I worship Jehovah God and not an organization nor individuals...My source of spiritual education is the Bible...I pray justice is taken regardless of how high up on the spiritual ladder one may reside... Almighty God accurately reads hearts, in time He will see that justice is done...
In addition I have always believed no matter who a person is if Jehovah sees one as having a righteously inclined heart that one is acceptable to him...providing that one strives to comply with Jehovah’s laws and principals...
Comming from a person who grew up JW, this organization serves a diffrent kind of God from the one of the bible.
Its all you have really…So you got to keep suppressing your doubts.,you can not say l worship God not man when you’re a witness..
Do you know what the word worship means., don’t you have songs praising these men
Do you know what the word worship means., don’t you have songs praising these men
WOOOOWWW. My parents CONSTANTLY brought up "use the rod" when using violence on me and my sisters. My stepdad was an elder and in total agreement of my Mom's physical abuse. This is because all the literature says is "use the rod" it NEVER once has specified that the rod is symbolic for teaching and direction. It never once has spoken out against corporal punishment. He is so clearly trying to cover his ass throughout this whole video. It's sickening.
Im 53 years old not married no children never had anything in common with jw sisters I was totally abused mentally & controlled through out my childhood in this cult It never made me a better person if I leave then my own parents will disowned me cant live with that !
Jehovah witness parents got away with corporate punishment that child protective service didnt investigate !
Yep! Thanks for bringing this up. I had to stop the video to make sure SOMEONE had pointed this out. I was raised JW in the late 80's and 90's and this was absolutely taken to mean you have an obligation to hit your kids.
Yup 👍...the rod, the wooden spoon, the yard stick, the switch...got beaten with all. That was a big fat lie!!!
oowwww, poor little girl got spanked few times, how awful... get a life snowflake. you probably deserved it. its not like they were breaking your bones...
I hated being in a family where we came second while i was growing up and having to pretend that everything was wonderful, when in reality our lives were just a facade, all so that we could have this image of a perfect elder family. Everyone in my family, (including me) have developed substance abuse or alcohol issues, and I think it's from all the years of stuffing emotions and feelings down, all in the name of upholding an image.
Likewise.. its a show and mind control all for imperfect man
My family worked hard to help others. We were not alcoholics or drug addicts when we grew up. Addicts choose to be one. They always blame it on someone or something. You can stop your addiction if you want to do so.
My parents were reg pioneers, really strict, so I had a similar experience. I was really messed up from my upbringing and then really messed up when I found it it was all lies. I developed a bad addiction from wanting to numb the intense hurt. I was planning my suicide for a while after finding out about the child sexual abuse problem and due to some close family shunning me and my kids.
But I asked for help from my Dr, I got lots of different types of counceling (as I had long term depression and an anxiety disorder) and specific help for addiction and been clean for around 5 years and holding down the same job for 7 years.
JW's teach parents to counsel their children lovingly. And discipline kindly. Anyone can attend meetings. But not everyone practices what they are taught. Place the blame on the abusive one who chose ignore the Bible counsel. I have always understood the "rod" to mean discipline in kindness and with patience.
My Sis and I were never beaten. My children were never beaten.
Praying for the healing of you and your family. I was raised as a jw and I'm not active but I do know the organization has a huge influence on how I interact with the world. There's negative in all things. Please remember the good 💜❤🧡
I was baptised in 2003 but fell away from attending meetings in 2006 ........ I have never been disfellowshipped and other witnesses that I come into contact with still show me love and concern for my welfare and treat me with the same warmth as they always did.
I am finding these ARC videos most enlightening and it is great to see a representative from the Governing Body of the organisation giving testimony.
yep. best people on earth without doubt. we come and go because we enjoy laziness and sin. period
he dance around the questions like he's at the club
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Aubrey Shatner the governing body and Jehovah's witnesses are the apostles. You are from your father Satan who is a liar.
@Aubrey Shatner Sister: What are you doing here! I will report you to the elders in your congregation! You are not suposed to visit this pages!
Elsa Stenberg This isn’t in anyway an apostate site, it’s a legit video of a legal case about legitimate matters so society. It’s pretty clear that the prosecutors have no understanding of scriptural policy, don’t know the role of the GB and what they stand for, and have no respect for the Bible. Jackson clearly has respect for the Bible and will not go beyond what’s written. He dropped bombs on all questions and allegations
@@Angel-rs3ve That is simply untrue
They can't stone anymore so they just torture by shunning.
The bible never advocated stoning for Christians and refusing to associate with those who no longer have your moral standards is what we all do in life...do you associate with Nazis?
Very silly reply- comparing people who leave the witnesses to nazis is not only ridiculous but an insult to any thinking person.
It's not torture when they are calling it a loving arrangement!
+ollieskins I have no problem with someone shunning a nazi. But how about shunning a depressed alcoholic? I knew a couple of people with serious alcohol problems and being shunned by everyone they knew definitely did not help them. The other one died in a drunken accident (no crime involved, just a sad accident) within a year of being disfellowshiped.
I am not for shunning people in general.
I noticed that Jackson said he Governing Body takes spiritual responsibility for what is written in the literature, but he is careful not to say that they take legal responsibility. He keeps mentioning that other people write much of the literature, not the Governing Body, but they review it and decide whether or not it is approved for publishing. Well, that makes them responsible for what is in the literature!
***** Thank you for sharing that info with me. I was wondering about whether or not they did that with the bible translations (if you can even callthem that). I remember when they told us to get a black permanent marker and black out certain parts of the Revelation-It's Grand Climax book, and then throw them away (I noticed they were trying to erase traces of the fact that they were trying to make it seem like Armageddon would come before the "generation" of 1914 died off.
Still not responsible for what others do with the literature they approve. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
exactly. And isnt he in the writing dept?!
overseeing and writing are two different things. The people under his department writes the articles. He just reviews them and hold meeting with them to discuss what topics to put on the articles.
this is my testimony....I will no longer support the DF practices and customs that isolate my friends and prevent me from being their family or friend. the governing body has failed in the policing department, and I am no part of the police force. Policy and a climate of fear have emasculated the elders who are are hands on with the sheep.
I'm getting my friends back.
B Buttercup ...get out of the cult.
Imagine at memorial they have taught a teaching of NOT partaking of emblems of Lords Evening meal. So the members of congregation deny the Christ because the emblems are about Christ sacrificed body for forgiving of sins.
then you are a rebel. like someone else I know
Those people aren’t your friends .
he's a high school drop out that dropped out at age 15 and he's on the translation committee and teaching committee?
They are all uneducated power hungry control freaks. not one of them is a biblical scholar and are not knowledgeable in ancient languages, no how can any of them give proper insight?
Most of Jesus's apostle did not attended bible schools like the ancient Pharisees yet what happened Jesus chose them over the learned Pharisees. Jesus said in (Matthew 11:25) "At that time Jesus prayed this prayer: "O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding these things from those who think themselves wise and clever, and for revealing them to the childlike"(childlike representing meekness and humility)so that makes your argument flawed.Jehovah's witnesses are nice people who preach the truth about God ever since I met them I have come to realize the real meaning of God's love for mankind. They may have their short comings but they are certainly not bad company. Jesus had 12 apostle yet 1 betrayed him so in any human organization there is bound to one or 2 bad nuts but u can't conclude that the actions of these individuals should be basis for you to tag them as bad company
henry hasford Correction, Isa, IES, or Yeshua and his apostles and disciples were from the Essene communal order of the hidden mystery schools of ancient Egypt, do the research that religious organizations and churches don't point you to in order to understand the whole enchilada. So yes they were very much educated in ancient knowledge unlike the watchtower hierarchy clowns and their manipulated puppet circuit overseers, elders and lower ranks
henry hasford Childlike means innocence. This innocence is far away and missing from Watchtower elites
Even Jesus's disciples were not that educated,so what's your point???
Yep, that's right. A young person is definitely going to feel comfortable talking about sexual abuse with a group of old men who've made you feel ashamed of having genitals your entire childhood. 🙄
It's amazing as JWs they constantly tell us to avoid things like this. But any open-minded individual has to question why they tell you that? Its almost as if it's safer to sweep things under the rug.
Someone needs to pull the rug
If someone tells you not to look at critical information about them, that’s an automatic red flag. People with nothing to hide not only don’t tell others not to look at potential negative or critical information about them, but actively prevent people from viewing said information and punish those who do.
i am jw, and i dont have a problem listening to this. but crazy conspiracy theorists and apostates, yes i have problem listening to their poison.
@@Vukf1 but you don't have a problem with the poison you've been ingesting. All the lies, all the changes, all the contradictions. But truth seekers are APOSTATES.
@@Vukf1 their poison? They talk about the exact thing you’re watching right now. What lies have they told?
A suggestion. The next religious or secular group you interview, don't let them call anyone "the victim". Make them say "child", "young boy", "young girl" or "children". Make them acknowledge a human.
Wow you make a lot of sense @LadyHollman
judges only men? wasn't Deborah a judge. Judges 4: 4,5
I was thinking this exact same thing
Deborah appears in the book of Judges but she was a prophetess in the same way as prophet Samuel, she was not part of group of 12 men appointed as judges by Jehovah God.
@@emmanuel2588 The Book of Judges mentions twelve leaders who judged Israel: Othniel, Ehud, Shamgar, *Deborah* , Gideon, Tola, Jair, Jephthah, Ibzan, Elon, Abdon, and Samson.
@@tirone7520 Replace Deborah with Barak.
Goat bone what about judge Judy?
Wow it's interesting how I missed this, now I see why researching is so important!
@Truth Never Lies Simply put, cults gonna cult.
He probably got his hours for service for this.
@JayKnee someone is sour...
That's actually pretty funny because there's a decent chance it's true lol.
Certainly
LOL
@@bluesync1 wait isn’t everything he does considered logged hours of field service!? Lol
I'm glad I watched this. Jehovah's Witnesses pride themselves as being God's mouth piece but, here we see a governing body member who (under oath) says that would be presumptuous to say. Which makes me think of Deut.18:20-22. Where it talks about prophets speaking presumptuously. I think ever Jehovah's witness should watch this and then read that Verse lol
@forever
The point is that a Jehovah Witness tried to avoid answering this question in court.
This is so Profound! Presumptuous happens when you teach that you have a Monopoly on God's word, in other words, your religion is the only way to a relationship with God, the Universe, whatever you want to call it. Wow,
@Aubrey Shatner what are you doing on here anyway? You know you can get disfellowshipped for viewing so-called apostate material LOL. Where in the Bible does it say to follow 8 men in New York and don't question anything they say? Did you know that the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses was it proven false prophet and a pedophile and the second president said that the world would end in 1925, he believed this so much that he actually had a house Belton California good morning and didn't happen he ends up living there with his mistress while his wife is living in New York. I'm just curious what does the Bible say about adultery? Think about this and then read Matthew 7:14-16
I am not nor have I ever been a Jehovah's Witness so therefore I am not an apostate I'm sorry to tell you... how do you think you're going to be saved when the very baptism you took part in what is blasphemy?
No he says it would be presumptuous to say that they were the only spokesperson. He says there, in the congregation, somebody giving comfort would be a spokesperson too. Clearly if they are giving the advice of the GB obviously.
@@c-rad2419 Brother Rutherford's wife was very sick and she lived in s house in CA because the climate was better for her health. Brother Rutherford's wife supported his role as President of JW. She was a JW herself.
Why do people try to pass, unfounded gossip along and can give no credit for the tremendous personal sacrifices people make.
What a load of crap. 25:40 Jackson says that if the GB gave direction that is not in harmony with the Bible that all of JWs would notice it and that it was wrong direction.
This isn't true. JWs cannot speak out and say the GB is wrong.
I agree with you Matthew. Even if several jws would notice errors in gb declaration, they'd keep quiet since asking questions would get them disfellowshipped for apostasy 😢
1,021,914 views 👀 Fantastic 👍 Great to see so many vids on the ARC in one place
Make sure they stay up !!!
This information is PRICELESS !!!
Thank you
I only see 448K right now. I wonder what happened.
Matthew 10:16-20 :
“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. Be on your guard against men, for they will hand you over to local courts and they will scourge you in their synagogues. And you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations. However, when they hand you over, do not become anxious about how or what you are to speak, for what you are to speak will be given you in that hour; for the ones speaking are not just you, but it is the spirit of your Father that speaks by you."
Brother Geoffrey Jackson do not be afraid because Jehovah tells us at Matthew 28:20 : "And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things"
matondo giresse thank you
Mr. Stewart gets Jackson to state on record that he left school at 15, and later unassumingly mocks him by calling him a "scholar" when he's caught completely misapplying scripture.
That was GOLD!!!!
a victim should go straight to the police and the police will investigate
It is the parents to turn in the person. We have been reminded of this often. Just telling the elders will is as hearsay they did not witness what happen. Good to make them aware of the situation. If someone did something to my child within minutes I would be at the police station!! Can’t expect someone else to take the lead in something that is your responsibility.
nobody is stopping them
Thank you so much for posting this, I’m a little late at loyal this whole problem but wow thank you so much for uploading this great information!
Don't get to excited about the worth of this royal commission. because the victims will gain little compared to how much the commissioners , lawyers etc will gain financially from this circus !
Hello sir! Are u a disfellowshipped one?
thank you sooo much for recording this,my internet crashed while watching last night:/
Playlist of the entire hearing so far:
ua-cam.com/play/PLPQ6KZ-AGhVQbadlzMQN26dvMPzddxlui.html
Playlist of the hearing with synced audio, more will be added later:
ua-cam.com/play/PLPQ6KZ-AGhVRhA0EyktgPEEoMlS_B2J7I.html
Highlight compilation of the entire hearing on Reddit:
www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3g4460/master_thread_for_royal_commission_highlights/
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+Jakke Control Jehovah's Witnesses 'fostered distrust' of secular authority - royal commission counsel
A damning submission to the royal commission on child sexual abuse has recommended 77 adverse findings against the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia.It was open to the commission to find the church fostered distrust of secular authorities and its response to child sexual abuse fell short of best practice, counsel to the commission Angus Stewart QC found in his submission, published on Tuesday.Since 1950 the church has received 1,066 allegations against its members and did not report any of them to police.Stewart’s recommendations arise out of a public hearing into the Jehovah’s Witnesses and its oversight body, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia, in July.He said the Witnesses received about three or four reports of allegations of child abuse a month.The Jehovah’s Witness organisation presented its members with “conflicting and ambiguous teachings regarding their relationship with secular authorities, thereby fostering a distrust of such authorities”, Stewart said.He was critical of the church for requiring abuse victim BCB, who gave evidence at the July hearing, to confront her abuser and for not allowing the involvement of women when her complaint was being investigated.He said it was “inconsistent of the elders’ professed sympathy for BCB”.The evidence in July was that although elders in the Western Australia congregation at Narrogin - where BCB was abused by elder Bill Neill - believed her, Neill was allowed to keep his job because under “witness” regulations, based on a second-century interpretation of the Bible, two witnesses are needed to prove a crime.BCB - who was in her mid-teens and had been groomed by Neill for a number of years - was made to continue to attend Bible classes with him and discouraged from discussing the abuse with anyone, Stewart found.Among the other findings open to the commission was that there was no justification for the Jehovah’s Witnesses not to report to police when the victim was a minor and others were still at risk, Stewart said.One of the most senior members of the Jehovah’s Witness church, Geoffrey Jackson, who is on the New York-based governing body that oversees decisions made internationally, gave evidence on the final day of the public hearing.On Tuesday, Stewart said it could be found that Jackson, by familiarising himself only with the testimony of church witnesses and not reading the testimony of survivors, “belies his stated empathy for the survivors and his stated recognition of the importance of their perspective”.In a submission responding to Stewart’s proposed finding, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia said the finding that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organisation fostered distrust was “just not true”.The submission said Stewart was selective in what doctrinal teachings he used to support the proposed finding.Stewart’s logic around the church’s relationship with secular authorities was flawed because Witnesses believed it was their “Christian responsibility to be good citizens”, and encourage obedience to the law, the submission said.The submission said many of Stewart’s proposed findings were based on “incorrect assertions” and the proposed finding against Jackson did not reflect what he actually said.He had been in Australia to care for his ailing father and did not expect to be called to the commission, the society said.
+Jakke Control Jehovah's Witnesses 'fostered distrust' of secular authority - royal commission counsel
A damning submission to the royal commission on child sexual abuse has recommended 77 adverse findings against the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia.It was open to the commission to find the church fostered distrust of secular authorities and its response to child sexual abuse fell short of best practice, counsel to the commission Angus Stewart QC found in his submission, published on Tuesday.Since 1950 the church has received 1,066 allegations against its members and did not report any of them to police.Stewart’s recommendations arise out of a public hearing into the Jehovah’s Witnesses and its oversight body, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia, in July.He said the Witnesses received about three or four reports of allegations of child abuse a month.The Jehovah’s Witness organisation presented its members with “conflicting and ambiguous teachings regarding their relationship with secular authorities, thereby fostering a distrust of such authorities”, Stewart said.He was critical of the church for requiring abuse victim BCB, who gave evidence at the July hearing, to confront her abuser and for not allowing the involvement of women when her complaint was being investigated.He said it was “inconsistent of the elders’ professed sympathy for BCB”.The evidence in July was that although elders in the Western Australia congregation at Narrogin - where BCB was abused by elder Bill Neill - believed her, Neill was allowed to keep his job because under “witness” regulations, based on a second-century interpretation of the Bible, two witnesses are needed to prove a crime.BCB - who was in her mid-teens and had been groomed by Neill for a number of years - was made to continue to attend Bible classes with him and discouraged from discussing the abuse with anyone, Stewart found.Among the other findings open to the commission was that there was no justification for the Jehovah’s Witnesses not to report to police when the victim was a minor and others were still at risk, Stewart said.One of the most senior members of the Jehovah’s Witness church, Geoffrey Jackson, who is on the New York-based governing body that oversees decisions made internationally, gave evidence on the final day of the public hearing.On Tuesday, Stewart said it could be found that Jackson, by familiarising himself only with the testimony of church witnesses and not reading the testimony of survivors, “belies his stated empathy for the survivors and his stated recognition of the importance of their perspective”.In a submission responding to Stewart’s proposed finding, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia said the finding that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organisation fostered distrust was “just not true”.The submission said Stewart was selective in what doctrinal teachings he used to support the proposed finding.Stewart’s logic around the church’s relationship with secular authorities was flawed because Witnesses believed it was their “Christian responsibility to be good citizens”, and encourage obedience to the law, the submission said.The submission said many of Stewart’s proposed findings were based on “incorrect assertions” and the proposed finding against Jackson did not reflect what he actually said.He had been in Australia to care for his ailing father and did not expect to be called to the commission, the society said.
+Jakke Control Jehovah's Witnesses 'fostered distrust' of secular authority - royal commission counsel
A damning submission to the royal commission on child sexual abuse has recommended 77 adverse findings against the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia.It was open to the commission to find the church fostered distrust of secular authorities and its response to child sexual abuse fell short of best practice, counsel to the commission Angus Stewart QC found in his submission, published on Tuesday.Since 1950 the church has received 1,066 allegations against its members and did not report any of them to police.Stewart’s recommendations arise out of a public hearing into the Jehovah’s Witnesses and its oversight body, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia, in July.He said the Witnesses received about three or four reports of allegations of child abuse a month.The Jehovah’s Witness organisation presented its members with “conflicting and ambiguous teachings regarding their relationship with secular authorities, thereby fostering a distrust of such authorities”, Stewart said.He was critical of the church for requiring abuse victim BCB, who gave evidence at the July hearing, to confront her abuser and for not allowing the involvement of women when her complaint was being investigated.He said it was “inconsistent of the elders’ professed sympathy for BCB”.The evidence in July was that although elders in the Western Australia congregation at Narrogin - where BCB was abused by elder Bill Neill - believed her, Neill was allowed to keep his job because under “witness” regulations, based on a second-century interpretation of the Bible, two witnesses are needed to prove a crime.BCB - who was in her mid-teens and had been groomed by Neill for a number of years - was made to continue to attend Bible classes with him and discouraged from discussing the abuse with anyone, Stewart found.Among the other findings open to the commission was that there was no justification for the Jehovah’s Witnesses not to report to police when the victim was a minor and others were still at risk, Stewart said.One of the most senior members of the Jehovah’s Witness church, Geoffrey Jackson, who is on the New York-based governing body that oversees decisions made internationally, gave evidence on the final day of the public hearing.On Tuesday, Stewart said it could be found that Jackson, by familiarising himself only with the testimony of church witnesses and not reading the testimony of survivors, “belies his stated empathy for the survivors and his stated recognition of the importance of their perspective”.In a submission responding to Stewart’s proposed finding, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia said the finding that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organisation fostered distrust was “just not true”.The submission said Stewart was selective in what doctrinal teachings he used to support the proposed finding.Stewart’s logic around the church’s relationship with secular authorities was flawed because Witnesses believed it was their “Christian responsibility to be good citizens”, and encourage obedience to the law, the submission said.The submission said many of Stewart’s proposed findings were based on “incorrect assertions” and the proposed finding against Jackson did not reflect what he actually said.He had been in Australia to care for his ailing father and did not expect to be called to the commission, the society said.
I cannot understand his argument that mandatory laws would assist, because we are thought that the superior biblical law as interpreted by Jehovah's Witnesses takes preference over everything else. So it you are following scripture why do you need secular law to guide you.
They taught me to hate the Pope and all those years I did hate the Pope. Now the Pope is a saint compared to mr potato head.
宇宙不思議な aha haha hahahaha.
Welcome to the truth about the truth. Sit for an hour a week shitting on the Catholics as a modern day Jezebel
wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101988010
“The harlot rides a beast” the harlot is the world empire of false religion spear headed mainly by the catholic church.
“Sitting pretty in the Vatican, Pope Pius XII let the Holocaust on the Jews and the cruel persecutions of Jehovah’s Witnesses and others proceed uncriticized. It is ironical that Pope John Paul II, on visiting Germany in May 1987, should glorify the anti-Nazi stand of one sincere priest.”
Sounds a lot like hate the pope to me. Sitting there, hearing comments like “we should hate the pope”. I was there. I wont be gaslighted.
If you were a witness sitting in a judicial meeting. If you answered questions like this governing body member. You would be disfellowshipped.
Well thats a straight up lie. Were you even a witness?
I was one of Jehovah witnesses for 12 yrs. I see that you are not a witness. Maybe you are on the fence. You're not supposed to be on this channel. Who are you defending? At the end of the day, the GB frown on witnesses looking around social media. You might hear about the injustice and double standards of the witnesses. You just might take a stand for the most high and not men.
What you just commented made no sense. In a judicial meeting there are no rules to how to answer questions. In a judicial meeting you are being questioned about the sin commited and being judged on how you feel about it and if you are truly repent for your sin. Doesnt always mean disfellowship.
Hope to see some highlight's in next month's JW Broadcasting of this hearing!!!!
+OTTO OCTAVIOUS All the JWs here that use fake names. Why are you embraced to make yourself known. When I went door to door, I used my real name. In this modern age of technology, is it new that one uses anonymous names? What will that accomplish. I shall no longer address anyone who does not show me who they are with a real name and email. Those that do this are cowards? Are you a coward?
Otto, I swear so that's the reason you don't use your real name? You shitting me? Have you forgotten why this site is here? It's about JWs molesting children. It's not about you. I have yet to see a post where you show any compassion for the victims of this atrocity. You quote scripture. Do you have ADD?
+PJ Wilcox abuse can be reported sir wilcox.
+Shark Bite Shark Bite is upset because lets face it, if a JW comes online it ruins the fun of slander propaganda. They are what they are, warnings, I wouldn't try to make it out to be a hypocritical synopsis without first doing research or getting the true meaning out of the warning. Another example of slander would be many JWs deciding not going to college and heeding the warnings, there are high schools that promote the first step you do when you step out of the high school is to get into deep dept with learning from a business, yes a business that is all colleges are, yet they fail to disclose the problems with graduation from college not able to get a job and having to pay student loans the rest of their lives, but even going as far as suicide. Why do they fail to disclose those facts. So both warnings are good to follow cause most of the people here are haters of JWs and who likes to be called every bad word in the dictionary as well as some new ones from pagans?
George Bennett No problem there, got a abuse problem and need some help? Recall Natalie Holloway and Polly Clasp? Gov did not want any help. Clasp, yep. Where is that bastard? Most of the group got eliminated recently. Wars do kill people. I am at fucking war with this Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. I challenge anyone to confront me to a debate? Any takers? I promise not to touch anyone. Your safe
The elders will suggest going to the police, they can't force a family to be separated that is the choice of the child, they can not lord it over as the video shows, once the child or one of the parents or teacher bus driver calls protective child services they will look at the physical condition or mental state of the child and place them in the adoption process.
I find it interesting when people that were or were not JWs share their experiences on here tend to be confronted by people who are clearly JWs and the responses are so spiteful and disregard the feelings of anyone who seems to have gone through anything. I haven't seen one kind comment from someone that seemed to be a JW toward someone else that has been clearly hurt. Clearly, their God isn't the God of love because he wouldn't want anyone to act like that. It speaks loudly.
@21:25 , 'So in that respect, WE VIEW OURSELVES as trying to fulfill that role.'
That is definitely not what the Governing Body teaches in their magazines. So basically, these are titles they snatched for themselves.
No true
That was the point I brought up to an elder: It would seem at that time he had no idea of RAC. I remember so vividly how his left leg would shake as I told him what I heard and what I read from transcripts.
Geoffrey Jackson should have been disfellowshipped for such blatant lies.
If this guy is the so called governing body why does he keep saying " It's not my field " !!!!! TRUE EVIL !
Horseshit. The Governing Body shape ALL doctrines, rules and regulations that all JWs are expected to follow without question. So don't sit there like a blithering idiot thinking you can pull the wool over our eyes.
This idiot Geoffrey Jackson sat there, dodged questions and lied his face off. And deep down, I'm pretty sure you know that.
OTTO OCTAVIOUS Otto, don't try and pull that crap. No matter what their "area of expertise" is, you know as well as I do that NOTHING that passes for either doctrine or policies and procedures is finalized without the full approval of the Governing Body members. Unless of course you're suggesting that some of 'Christ's brothers' aren't even aware what their own policies are.....good lord.
Mary You said it all Mary ! These people are out of their minds to believe these frauds
OTTO OCTAVIOUS Don't be an ass. No, not because I 'got it off the internet', but because they themselves teach that they are the only means through which Jehovah is working. You are told that in order to have Jehovah's favour, you have to follow whatever it is the "Slave" says.
Now even with your limited brain cells working, you should be able to connect the dots. If these men are not all making the decisions of shaping policies and doctrines, then who is? And if it's not "the Slave", then why on earth should anyone have to blindly obey them?
OTTO OCTAVIOUS “…NOT TRUE, THE BIBLE PLAYS THE ONLY PART IN SHAPING IT'S UNDERSTANDING…”
You’re full of shit and you know it. The GB members give their bizarre twist on the scriptures to make it fit with their preconceived ideas and when the bible doesn’t fit, they simply tell you not to question THEM.
“…SO LET ME GET THIS RIGHT...BY GIVING YOUR ONE SIDED HATEFUL OPINION...I'M PULLING THE WOOL...”
Wow! That’s rich coming from someone in a cult that allows for no questioning of the leaders’ crazy-ass interpretation of the bible. If ever a religion has a “one-sided opinion”, it’s yours. But of course, you’ll never admit that.
This idiot Geoffrey Jackson sat there, dodged questions and lied his face off. "OK SHOW ME WHERE HE DID THIS...THATS ALL I ASK...WHERE IN YOUR OPINION DID HE LIE.... I ASKED YOU THIS MONTH'S AGO AND NEVER GOT AN ANSWER."
Here’s your answer. During the hearing, a very pertinent question was asked by the Royal Commission and it went like this:
Angus Stewart: “Do you see yourselves as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth?”
Geoffrey Jackson: “That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using.”
Yet that is exactly what they teach:
“…Is it presumptuous of Jehovah’s Witnesses to point out that they alone have God’s backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God’s backing in spite of the Egyptians’ belief, or when first-century Christians claimed to have God’s backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists. The facts speak for themselves.” --w01 6/1 p. 12
I guess it’s time that Mr. Jackson actually do some background reading on the subject because that’s exactly what they teach. Unless of course, this “isn’t his area”.
LOL
Geoffrey is such a humble and loving brother. Answers EVERYTHING using the scriptures and nothing out his own opinion. Only honest people can see the organization is guided by God
Wafle21 your comment turns my stomach. Gods holy spirt is not on this this religion/Cult. Myself and my brother were brought up in this awful cult and suffered much abuse. I could write a book about the things that happened to us. This cult should be banned!!
wafle21 , only honest people can see the organization is guided by God
its sound the same like : " only honest people can see G Jackson look like Tom Cruise "
so since people afraid of being accused or labeled as the dishonest ones by jws , so they being FORCED to say that " G Jackson so hand some look like Tom Cruise "
eventhough in FACT and to be genuinly HONEST i am WITNESSING that G Jackson he look like over boiled potatos head instead handsome like Tom Cruise , do you agree ? that is to be real HONEST , do you understand what does it really mean ? is that make me become dishonest person just because telling the TRUTH that JW ORG IS THE NEST OF DEADLY VIPERS ?
or just because am telling the truth that G Jackson is not handsome at all ? and you might get shun if you agree of what i am saying , does it ? please understand of this delicate matter, ☝🏼 😁,
true people can see that JW org if factory of lies and use the Bible in malpractice way of making image that to made them look so true,,,,,,
He just admitted that they choose themselves and they are not the only ones God communicate directly with.
He just admitted that they choose themselves and they are not the only ones God communicate directly with.
Recent correction (my mother corrected me). I was of the impression that the bible study (Tabors) next to the Kingdom Hall who had the hall keys and would OPEN up the hall for meetings, that the son was incest with his sister. However yesterday mom said no that was the father abusing daughter. So I correct that, because I would not want the brother to feel shame for things he didn't do. I once sat next to a neighbor at a bar, who noticed who I was and told me 30 years ago it was not his mom always getting the blame for stirring legal complaints against my father's unkept property, but that it was his dad who did it and played so good and silent, talking to my dad while back stabbing him. SO you see, elders problems is THEIR TAKING SIDES.
he is giving honest and a true wittnsss !
Interesting how Mr. Jackson, in his humble position of authority, has his servants on both sides taking care of finding the information needed to address the prosecutor but yet others are able to find the information without assistance!
+Felice Young - Well apparently even after being a missionary since the 60s, and rising to the almighty and all-seeing position of Governing Body member, Jackson still doesn't know exactly how disfellowshipping works. He said under oath in this very court investigation that it "wasn't his department." Meanwhile, 8 year old witness kids know how it works.
you should open a school of nitpicking
@TheDarkMikado ask your government how it handles treason
I was raised in a foster family of Jehovah's witnesses who abused me emotionally and physically. When I was close to 60 years of age I started wondering why the 2013 release of the holy scriptures was revised and strange to me was why the witnesses had changed many areas of the Bible. Also I wasn't loved as a child in the foster home of Jehovah's witnesses of which I lived. I was brought up with beatings and slave labor. No I'm not black. However I found out that a lot of children of Jehovah's witnesses had the same unkind childhood.
next time go be raised by a different family and tell us how perfect the experience was
My mother is a prosecutor, imagine if Jackson had to tell her about how women can hold positions of authority.
"taking the lead...taking the lead".. all this could have been avoided by simply taking the lead and calling the authorities and letting them investigate the matter, instead of debating whether its matter of sinful behaviour.
the authorities with the shoot first policy depending on how you look?
1:04:34 - "The judicial system that Jehovah's Witnesses use is not in competition with the criminal justice system." - That is a half-truth. They believe that their judicial system is above human law.
I love Attorney Steward! :)
That was great how he used the example of a woman being raped in a field, without anyone to hear her scream and save her from the rapist, she wouldn't be punished, but the rapist would be killed, and then he said if someone asked Jesus about sexual assault, he would have probably referred back to this scripture LOL. I think it is odd that Jackson said, he wishes he could ask Jesus, and one day he hopes he will. Well, doesn't Jesus already (according to the Governing Body themselves) have Jesus pt Jehovah's thoughts directly into their minds? Also, didn't angels supposedly tell the Faithful and Discreet Slave class Jehovah's thoughts? Why doesn't Jackson just channel Jehovah through the Holy Spirit, Jesus, or angels and find the answer to the question?? LOL
Also, while their are elders that will allow a sister or brother to divorce his or her spouse and have scriptural grounds to remarry, because the non-cheating spouse got a confession from the other spouse, or there were circumstances that would lead a reasonable person to believe their spouse was unfaithful, not all elders will allow that. Some elders will only allow a sister be considered in good standing and able to remarry if her husband admitted to cheating, or she walked in on him having sex with someone else. I know I was told I needed to have my spouse confess, or I and one other Jehovah's Witness, or two Jehovah's Witnesses other than me, walked in on him committing a sex act with someone else, or two Jehovah's Witnesses would have to witness him leaving the home of a none prostitute. So, they are even ridiculous about these cases too. Really, the WBTS is mostly concerned with giving men freedom and respect, and women and children are unimportant to them.
I knew of a sister many decades ago who discovered her husband was in a homosexual affair. She went to the brothers on the subject of divorce and they told her she was free to make her decision but she would not be free to remarry and remain in good standing in the congregation because the Bible only speaks of adultery between a man and a woman . That poor woman was young and had no children. So being the sheep that she was she patiently waited around til the organization shed new light on what adultery was really. By that time she was old and unable to have children. The real true stories such as this are countless and heartbreaking.
nope you misquoted him which means you weren't listening which means you can't be taken seriously
Jackson is comfortably lying under oath.
I watched it the first time and it sounded good.
After having been appointed as an elder and then seeing that Jackson lied. Flat out lied!!! I died on the inside and I am now out and I feel a strong disgust for Geoffrey and his friends that have such utter contempt for God, Jesus and humans.
Can you elaborate on what were lies?
These videos have helped me so much to overcome my feelings of what I put my kids through
Oh my word…such lies!
Corporal punishment for disciplining children was openly encouraged in the congregation. They even had a private room (second school) for this to take place during meetings!
Oh thats rubbish. The room may have been used to take rowdy or noisy or crying kids aside to calm them down
The guardians of doctrine? Really?? That comment alone sounds unbiblical. Wouldn’t you Guard the truth, what ever truth the Bible teaches not guard a doctrine regardless of its false hood or accuracy.
Chris Stevens They make them self’s as GOD= Guardians Of Doctrine. SMH 🤦🏼♀️ So sad,🤷🏼♀️ YHWH AND OUR LORD YESHUA they will have to face. The new modern Scribes and Pharisees in Matthew 23:1-38 they sound like. May GOD YHWH have mercy on there souls and wake up all those that are asleep.
Peace be with you.🙏🏻😇🌎💞
Exactly. That statement is so cultish
This helped a lot of members got out and get woke. Including me. We were taught to lie from the govt to protech gods kingdom, and we call it "wisdom". Questionings like these is what we call "persecution because we live in the last of the last days".
so, how are you enjoying your empty, senseless life in this filthy dump called world? :) thats what i thought
jumping into the world with no more of God's interference. congrats. tell us all your perfect life experiences now
No matter how Judge Cleland frames the question he is Not going to get an Answer from Jackson.
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Can tell Angus is highly unimpressed with that old fake
I think that to reach as many people as possible, it is necessary to put the possibility of translating into several languages.
This is fantastic! Thank you. :)
This man blows me away! Its so beautiful how he glides through the bible and answers with mildness and deep respect. Inspirational! There's no doubt in my mind he is anointed by Jehovah.
+Simon Ellis did jamin just admit Jackson blew him once?
jamin grace this dude told a bold face lie and to protect pediphiles is completely immoral they need to be in jail period. Glad I woke up and left this brainwashed mind controlled cult
jamin grace FOH.
amen to that haha
He told LIE after LIE on that stand! I dont think these JWs watched the
whole 6 parts. I caught him out in so many lies it made me sick. And ANY
jw can glide through the bible like that because that is all you ever
do as a JW, bible gliding is your whole life! you BETTER be able to
glide through the damn bible if you are a JW or else you are not only
wasting your precious time which you are anyway but wasting it without
even getting really familiar with that one book. He reads the publications written to see IF they harmonise with the bible. Surely if these publications truly comes from Jehovah as directed by the Holy Spirit then it would totally harmonise with the bible without needing to check it out?He says: 'Is it translatable and
DOES IT MATCH WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS? 'That statement alone should give
you a clue right there honey, they make it up as they go along and then
go back and see if the bible fits into their policies! Shouldnt it be the other way around!?!!!
I grew up in the organization, experienced abuse as a child and after 30 yrs. in good standing, and now out for nearly 20 yrs. would like to tell what I think is the problem. Based on my experience, take or leave it, my whole picture...this testimony is bullshit.
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Jackson sure knows how to dance around a question:
- does your church accept corporal punishment of children?
- we accept the family arrangement...
- do you accept corporal punishment?
- discipline refers to a mental point of view.
- you're still not answering the question.
- ...we don't encourage it.
- but do you prohibit it?
- the true way to discipline them is by educating them...
agh! I'm amazed at the judge's and Mr. Stewart's patience.
He can barely hide his misogyny - talking about the "asterisked" application of 1 Timothy 2:11,12 about a woman learning in silence, "the role of women, not jumping up excitedly, arguing with others". Wow! So I guess he doesn't expect that men would've done so, only women; and to such an extent that early Christians needed to specifically request women to learn in silence and not the men.... sickening.
20:34 Angus Stewart: And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokespeople on Earth?
Geoffrey Jackson: Ah, that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson god is using...
25:37 "Now the GB realises that if we were to give some direction that is not in harmony with gods word,all of JW worldwide who have the Bible would notice that,and they would see that was wrong direction"
Not sure whether to give this a thumbs UP or thumbs DOWN. A thumbs UP because it reveals how diabolical the JW organization is, and a thumbs DOWN because it's flat out sickening!
nonsensical
How often the Watchtower encourages the spanking of children... he is not being truthful. And ,Not true, some elders cause tramma often by their demeaning talks.
Like what
Searching Child abuse and Australia, it is a HUGE PROBLEM within government agencies that are supposed to protect children, too. Not just religious groups. I see so much malevolent naricissism everywhere and it seems any religious group draws predators because they follow the prey.
The sin is THE SIN. NOT in exposing the sin, otherwise, the entire bible would be gossip. I'm so sorry for all of the victims of predators, regardless of where they were preyed upon. It's heartbreaking.
I was a polite and respectful and obedient child growing up. We did what we were told. My parents were good parents and loving but my sister and I were frequently spanked until we had red welts on our thighs and behinds as children. For what I don't know! I guess for not cleaning our room at times? Children love to scatter toys so what's wrong with that? My sister once was spanked for feeding sugar to the ants outside after she was told not to. My father was an elder and our parents seemed to think we'd grow up "like weeds" without the use of corporal punishment which I believe was directly encouraged by the organization. There was a lot of talk about "sparing the rod and spoiling the child." so my parents, I believe, felt it was their Christian obligation to inflict corporal punishment in order to be good parents. So when I hear Geoffrey Jackson say, "It absolutely is not about inflicting corporal punishment" I feel very cheated as a child for having to endure it. In retrospect, my parents have said they don't even know why they spanked us so much. They admit that we were good kids. I feel it was the organization that made them feel the need to do it.
Its often a personal choice made by parents. Even in the JW community over all the years, there exists a spectrum including semi-sadistic to more liberal parenting. It often depends on the parents own upbringing and influences. Thats typical of society. Bible teachings SHOULD however motivate people to change their own attitudes etc
@@fifthdimension1984 I understand what you are saying. My parents weren't sadistic or abusive. They were loving but the frequency of spankings almost seemed abusive. It hurts me to say it because I still say that my parents were the best parents ever. If every parent were like them the world would be a better place. They claimed it hurt them more than us. (I'm not sure about that. lol) They were careful not to inflict bodily injury. They used light weight switches or belts. I have mixed feelings about discipline. On one hand the advantages might be that children are more obedient and respectful, so I'm not saying all discipline is bad, but I feel excessive discipline tends to destroy confidence. It's already a challenge being raised different from other children of the world in terms of not being able to participate in various school activities, but when ones confidence is affected by too much discipline as well, it just adds to ones feeling of trauma or isolation. Maybe trauma is the wrong word. What I meant to say is it's hard enough to stand up for what is right in the first place without added feelings of insecurity based on a lot of corporal punishment. I hope that makes sense. Neither of my parents were raised JWs. My father was an atheist before he became a Witness. My mother probably wasn't overly spiritual either before becoming a Witness. I think they had Baptist backgrounds as children to some faint degree before Witnesses knocked on their door. My mother and grandmother studied first. It took my father longer. His hang up was "Where did God come from?" He's highly brilliant but they somehow got around it:-) I don't regret my Biblical upbringing. I'm grateful for that. Aside from what I deemed to be too much discipline there was a lot of love. My father took time to explain scripture. We lived in nice homes and were well dressed. We took a lot of family vacations. My mother kept a beautiful home that was always clean. They were always there for us, overly protective I would say. So I did have a lot to be grateful for. I don't want it to seem as if I had a bad home life. I didn't. Overall I had an excellent home life.
I think people discipline their children on the way they were discipline. I was never spanked but I had rules which are necessary for children.
@@dinahkruppa913 Fortunate you! My parents were good parents. Lots of Biblical guidance. They were loving. We lived in nice homes. Had all the clothes we wanted and took a lot of family vacations. There were many perks in my life so I don't mean to sound as if I'm complaining, but I do think the the spankings with belts were a bit excessive, especially when we did as we were told and never talked back. They don't even know why we were spanked as often as we were. They acknowledged that we were obedient children. It had to be that we made a mess at times with toys in our room. There wasn't anything else. But isn't that what kids do? I'm a neat freak today so maybe it did me some good after all. lol
All Witnesses parents have different spectrum of discipline with their own children. Some take firm measure, some don't. It all depends on their perspective of how they should discipline their kids. The 'rod' thing in Proverbs is always to be taken figuratively. However it's parents' responsibility to take necessary steps to correct their kids. As far as I can remember, the articles in Watchtower don't encourage painful and harsh punishments.
So here we have one of "Gods annoited" swearing by Almighty God when scripture specifically forbids us to make any oath !
Exposing the Wolves ! I will use this as evidence that JWs can make oaths to God XD
isaac3002 As a former JW, I was wondering how he would handle that ... and he shanked it. They are allowed to AFFIRM, not to swear.
bill65761 what does " shanked " mean. It's not a word I've heard here in the UK !!
means stabbed
Leviticus 19:12 "You must not swear to a lie in my name and thus profane the name of your God. I am Jehovah." He didn't lie. Jesus condemned the practice of taking oaths lightly, very common among jews at the time.
Wasn't there a time when some of the Judges in Israel were actually Women having Full Authority over the Nation.
Michael Ashworth Judges 4:4 NWT" Now Debo·rah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappi·doth, was judging Israel at that time. " No comentaary required
Michael Ashworth yes that's true
+Gaz Lanham JWs have eyes but can't see, ears but don't hear. If one is still defending JWs, they at least should be using their name and show their conviction. Does their god recognize their fruits as being anonymous?
This is not what I was taught when I was partaking in this cult of lies and deception. They are blind, deaf misled cowards.
+OTTO OCTAVIOUS you made me laugh haha-- nice reply. Our hearts is with you... For me -- I'm here because Brother Jackson is one of our governing body. Those who hate Brother Jackson and Jw must not be here .. They must stay in their fellow believers too haha. Correct me Bro if I'm wrong with my reason or not hahaha.
+OTTO OCTAVIOUS I agree 100%
Judges being only men!?? Ummm, Deborah anyone? Also, he keeps on saying it's not his field, but he's a member of the governing body, I would think that he is part of the whole field. Do they not make all the rules!??
Hope you are safe in this pandemic sister?
He side steps every Quetion. Answer the question. Who makes the changes?
you obviously didn't listen. He said more than he had to. He awnsered everything with more information than needed.
He’s done an excellent job
Jackson can't understand or possibly comment on a woman having suffered abuse may be more comfortable in discussing matters with another woman. Women having input in the process of determination of responsibility but not the final judgement by the Judicial Committee of Elders.
Up next - Jehovah is to be summoned to the commission!
Denouncing Jehovah's Kingdom Good one XD but unfortunately he doesn't exist....
Ha! that's true and neither does any sense of accountability in the Watchtower organisation exist apparently!
Denouncing Jehovah's Kingdom Indeed lol
isaac3002 How else do you think this inquiry even got started?
Lmaoo
Ok right now its 220,791 views. I'm sending out mass emails warning the public all over the USA with links to this video.
27:30 - If the direction is given by the Governing Body, it does not matter what the Bible says. You either obey the Governing Body, or risk being disfellowshipped.
NO leeway for women to rule.????..Deborah was one of the rulers of the Israelites prior to the monarchy period that began with Saul (circa 1047 B.C.). These rulers were called "judges," an office that traced back to a time when Moses appointed assistants to help him resolve disputes among the Hebrews (Exodus 18). Their practice was to seek guidance from God through prayer and meditation before making a ruling. Therefore, many of the judges also were considered prophets who spoke "a word from the Lord."Deborah lived somewhere about 1150 B.C., about a century or so after the Hebrews entered Canaan. Her story is told in the Book of Judges, Chapters 4 and 5.
Hope you are safe in this pandemic sister?
Hope you are safe in this pandemic sister?
I have never received abuse of any kind yet it is within my capability to feel emotionally what it would be like to be in that position...Anyone with intelligence and heart would be capable of the same...
bro.Jackson was right when he said this 'two to three witness rule' is seen throughout the scriptures. (Nu 35:30; De 17:6; 19:15; compare Joh 8:17, 18; 1Ti 5:19; Heb 10:28.) Now if I may take an exception to what Mr.Stewart said, and I'm not sure whether his analysis of the scriptural reference at Deuteronomy 22:22-27 is of his own or whether he's got this idea from apostates, I don't know and I don't care, since it's erroneous anyway. He read particularly vss 25-27 and said there were no other witness except the 'engaged girl'. And thus, could this be perhaps that law or principle that Jesus would allude to when dealing with sexual assaults. Where did he get that conclusion?
The two witness rule is irrelevant, what matters is that we are expected to believe that the most powerful mind in the universe, God. Would invoke a mandate or rule, that would make it virtually impossible for a child abuse victim to be believed.
This is an act so reprehensible, that no decent person could ever associate themselves with such a being.
there are many annointed in congregations round the world!! why dont they have a hand in the writing of magazine articles, BECAUSE they are written by the writing committee, who probably work very hard to graft the wt propaganda onto wt ever changing scriptural thought, the gb would not even listen to these ones who claim they are annointed, Mr Stewart what you need to understand is our organisation is faith driven !! not legal, !!!!! the wt is infact a group of many legal corporations, i know i disassociated myself from my research around 13 legal branches of the wt, i would'nt like to fall over in a kingdom hall while cleaning, and say break my leg you might see the legal side of the wt, Sickening!!! penguins in the middle of oz !!! the magazines contain direct instruction commands, on how witnesses should live their lives, penguins totally irrelevant, also why has'nt mr jackson not found out who puts the demonistic images in their publications ????look at the demon hand at the side of jesus in the revelation grand climax book,
jhollis55 lennie Thank you for this comment! Very well said.
What demon hand at the side?
Its almost like God was moving the lawyer to ask all the questions to expose them. Most of the questions were a simple yes or no, but we saw what happened. These men are not of holy spirit
Neither inspired nor infallible... they admit it themselves... so...
@@serafin1352 and yet people still put their trust in them as the bible tells us not to. They have done a lot of good but the bad outweighs the good. Not just them but most of the religious leaders have fleeced the sheep and divided the followers of jesus.
@@serafin1352 if they are neither inspired nor infallible, then why do they insist that millions follow what they say, and that the billions who don't will die at Armageddon
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They admit it in the Watchtower and on video yet they still use fear tactics to get the rank and file in line. They insist in these bible prophecies because they misread them.
I was wondering when they were going to bring up feminism.
Telling JW that other religious organization allows women leadership in the congregation is of no relevance.
Many of those same ones allows LGBT also.
Bible in no way supports either.
That Fool is "Counting Time "...and he is nobody's Slave...The slaves are the Rank and File..He does No work...
Maxine Mack may God forgive your words . U got no idea wat u r saying
Kenneth Ohene you are the slave and they are the publishers. They print the publications and you slave around town handing them out.
A truly ignorant fool or truly slippery man ? . I love the way jackson gets schooled in scripture about the requirement for 2 witnesses by the commission clear evidence of gods hand directing the commission against jackson and watchtower. The last 10 minutes is pure gold
I wonder if he's putting down his 'time' on his 'field service report' as 'witnessing' while 'testifying' before the commission??
For Jehovah's witnesses and Apostates
20:35
That's something to think about.
This organization practices conditional love, not Christian or family love.
So he says "it would be presumptuous to say that they are Jehovah God's only spokespeople on earth", but I wonder if a person HAS TO BE of the Jehovah's Witness faith to be a spokesperson of God.
A couple of hours that could have been said in five minutes And neither side completely uncovered the truth, but the "worldy man" was much closer to it , but was hindered by the JW's deversion. Jesus did not say two witnesses needed to actually witness or see the crime or sin ,but...
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
These witnessess are witnesses of God, and are seeking repentance from the offender.
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
It has nothing to do with eye witnesses. And so this most horrible sin is aloud to flourish and repeat among these congregations of these who do not know or love God.
Do not withhold discipline from a child; ... if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. ... he shall not die. Proverbs 23:13
Symbolic? Really? In what way? In no way.
The worldy prosecutor is closer to the truth of God's word, than this governer of JW's.
1 Corinthians 14:35 KJV: And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Again, the WT lies and says this verse is out of context. Whatever that means.
No, it is in total context. But they are outside of God's word. And persist in it.
+iiiiiii and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
These witnessess are witnesses of God, and are seeking repentance from the offender.
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
It has nothing to do with eye witnesses. And so this most horrible sin is aloud to flourish and repeat among these congregations of these who do not know or love God.
Do not withhold discipline from a child; ... if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. ... he shall not die. Proverbs 23:13
Symbolic? Really? In what way? In no way.
The worldy prosecutor is closer to the truth of God's word, than this governer of JW's.
1 Corinthians 14:35 KJV: And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Again, the WT lies and says this verse is out of context. Whatever that means.
No, it is in total context. But they are outside of God's word. And persist in it.
Not a very humble person is he?? Thinks very highly of himself! And these are the type of people Jehovsh witnesses allow to control every facet of their lives.
Verse 25 starts with the word "IF". So there has to be some evidence or witness/witnesses to establish that 1.they were in the field together or at least saw both of them in the field or saw them went into the same field 2. that the man really lay down with her 3. or whether the girl really screamed or not. So if an engaged girl becomes pregnant by another man and she claimed to have been raped in the field, and that she refused in all her might and also claimed to had screamed but there was no one to rescue her, what would substantiate that claim? Would the judges readily accept this merely by just knowing that this happened in the field? Were there circumstantial evidences to prove her point and that she wasn’t just avoiding the death penalty? Verse 27 said, 'there was no one to rescue her' does not mean 'no one is there' to at least hear of the assault but could not readily rescue since they don’t know where the scream was coming from in the field and/ or perhaps don’t want to get involved with it. So we can’t altogether discount the possibility of a witness/witnesses here. But even in the absence of witnesses, strong material and circumstancial evidences are warranted.
I was involved in this religion as a young woman...actually a teenager...many of my mother's family were members...I was very close to them so it planted a seed in my mind as a child...finally at a very bad time in my life I turned to the JWs. My extended family...in time..I grew up and started asking questions..and so left while still young..in my 20's...the thing that always stood out to me about, particularly the elders and circuit servants..etc...one..they were very bland..no personality, as if they'd had their inner self brainwashed away..the smugness is the next thing I remember..I have aunts and uncles that were fine good people..intelligent...they spent their entire adult lives...waiting for the ever elusive "end of this system of things". How many times did I hear that over the years...RIP..they don't have to wait any longer..they're with the real God..and that God is love.
no
OVER & OVER & OVER ( with the same question)
Judge : “Mr Jackson you are not answering/dealing with my question “
Mr Jackson : “I’m sorry your honor ...”
I wonder if one can play that same game when you’re in the back room 🤔
if you stop reading dirty mags you won't end up there
“IN THE Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations has proclaimed that childhood
is entitled to special care and assistance,” states the preamble of the Convention on the Rights of the Child.” Child sexual abuse affects hundreds of thousands of young boys and girls every year. Countless adults are ill-equipped or reluctant to address this problem, not referring it to law enforcement agencies thus defaming of the abused child. Child sexual abuse is always an encroachment and intrusion of a young child’s rights. It escalates the risk of harmful physical and mental health. An environment of muteness, hush, silence and broken communication about sexuality promotes and endorses child sexual abuse. Make no mistake, child sexual abuse can kill. It will destroy the very psyche or spirit of a child. Many abused victims can’t seem to get past it and some resort to suicide to find a way out to find peace. This can’t be toyed with or handled by pedestrians with no knowledge of psychology or neuro-psychology. Child sexual abuse can be the “Ebola” of abuses.
I thought we weren't suppose to swear to God as Jehovah's Witnesses
Guardians of Doctrine ... G.O.D
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SpecialPioneerSmerf Oh my god! You are right!! 😮
SpecialPioneerSmerf 😂😂😂
Wow. That is quite a Revelation. Nice
Jackson claims the 2 witness rule is a theme throughout the Greek scriptures. Even if this were true, a more powerful principle that applies is that the sabbath was a theme through the scriptures also, yet Christ didn't use that as a pompous excuse to avoid works of healing. Instead, he did the loving thing. Which had nothing to do with protecting the image of a religious organization incapable of turning off its competitively frenzied sales pitch and everything to do with helping those suffering.
When questioned about corporal punishment Jackson repeatedly deflects the question.
Instead he authoritatively (and proudly) expounds on how the WT teaches the (politically correct) genteel concept that the "rod of discipline" is a metaphor for training children and holding them accountable to standards in a kind, loving non-specific manner. When Jackson realizes that the Commissioner will not give up until his simple question is answered directly, Jackson solemnly, almost in a deflated manner, says "no." While he says "No" under oath, in his mind he is fully aware that throughout the world JW parents are regularly spanking their children, they do that with the full acceptance, encouragement, and support of the congregations, based on that very scripture. JWs will never say to other JWs "do not spank your children." Jackson lies.
As a self-professed anointed brother of Jesus, who claims he has special understanding and interpretation of scripture, and as part if the (appointed) Faithful and Discrete Slave, and one of the 144,000 in Revelation, he personally does not believe that the bible teaches that corporal punishment is ok.
So, why hasn't _that_ particular food- no corporal punishment- been given to the domestics yet? Is it not time yet? Why is the GB not putting that is writing? Because Jackson lies.
+GorgeousRoddyChrome Yeah because parents the world over never spank their kids?? what planet do you live one?. I see parents spanking their kids on the street all the time? nobody is arresting them or taking them to court! That would be ridiculous! I think people need to chill out.My guess is that he has no kids and therefore can't think as a parent; I think he deflected the question because he can't answer on behalf of all parents. Some do, some don't! I know some of witnesses who refuse to spank their children and I also know some people who are parents but not religious at all who wouldn't hesitate if needed.. so you shouldn't generalize.
+shapolfab You missed the *point* of my comment completely. Also, there are no generalizations *of any kind* in my comment.
Further, you've referred to parental practices of discipline throughout the world, which are irrelevant to the context here.
I'm trying to figure out what you think you read, but I'm at a loss. Is English your primary language? Or are you still in primary school?
GorgeousRoddyChrome English is not my "primary" language and no I don't need to go back to primary school. I actually speak 3 languages fluently thank you very much, and yes I understand you were being sarcastic!
-Your quote: "throughout the world JW parents are regularly spanking their children, with the full acceptance, encouragement, and support of the congregations, based on this scripture."
My answer to that is: "Unfounded, untrue, and quite ridiculous to be honest.! and yes when you say " throughout the world JW parents regularly blah blah.. That is called generalizing!
+shapolfab No, I was *not* being sarcastic.
How many languages you speak *is immaterial* to whether you understood what I wrote, and if you missed my point. English as a secondary language or being young and in school are *common reasons* behind UA-cam viewers not understanding what is written by *educated adults whose primary language *is* English. So calm down. *Obviously my deductive inquiry to you was spot on.*
Back to the meat of discussion...
My statements are *not* "generalizations" in the pejorative sense that you are implying. They are reasonable, not inaccurate, and are highly relevant to my main point. Which, by the way, I still believe you missed completely.
Maybe I'm wrong? If so, then perhaps you could please tell me, in your own words:
*What is the main point of my initial comment? *
***** So I need to go back to "primary school" because I disagree with the the idea that ALL J-witnesses are child abusers??? Do you not see how ludicrous your argument is? Sorry for having an opinion that doesn't encourage this condescending attitude of yours.