Probert played for Chicago late in his career but he was the terror of the nhl when he was playing for Detroit. He and Kocur were feared throughout the league except by maybe Domi and McSorley. Putting Probert down as a Blackhawk instead of a Red Wing is highly controversial.
Man idk .. I would be scared of all 3 lol .. but I’d be scared shitless of Joey .. that dude just hurt guys . That fucking jackhammer he had was just spooky
How Joey didn’t get selected for his time with New York rangers is just stupid . I understand Howe and Probert both being selected but Joey should be tapped as the bruise brother
As someone who has spent most of his life around rinks all over, I can tell you that the enforcers are some of the nicest people I have ever met off the ice.
Always remember that the toughest men possess the largest hearts... It's a true self defense mechanism against being taken advantage of for their kindness, thoughtful behavior and noble qualities...
Geordie Howe’s toughness is best shown in a 21 year span starting in 1949, he missed a total of 20 games. That is tough. Especially in that era with lesser equipment and fewer rules.
i met gordie when he was in his early 50s and shook hands with him. i clearly recall saying to myself that i hope this guy gives me my arm back. that guy was made of steel.
Wow. Wish I could have seen that. Who took the faceoffs , scored the goals and most importantly was protected by his 4ough tough buddies. Love all 3 players. 2 are my countrymen. Native Pride!!!
As a flyers fan I would put Hunter or Simon in this spot.two guys that could put the puck in the net ,not only fight they were dirty players.berube was more of a flyer than a cap.that is a scary line…
To shed some light on McSorely. He was never the dirtiest player. He was the head of the players union and was one of the most respected guys on the ice. He fought and beat evwryone. In fact, he hunted probert. The longest fight in nhl history was McSorley and Probert. It ended when probert just skated backwards and McSorely asked him if he wanted to stop. Probert said, "i have nothing left". McSorley told the linesman to step in. Another fight they had McSorley was getting the better of him when he suddenly stopped and grabbed Probert with both hands. All action stopped. The linesmen stepped in and removed McSorley's helmet. Proberts finger was horribly caught in McSorley's helmet. Probert was on record saying "Marty could have killed me. He could have ripped my finger off my hand. He could have done anything he wanted. But he didn’t. He stopped and told the lineman who removed his helmet. He could have done whatever he wanted but he did the ine thing that saved me." Both times those fights ended with them touching their heads and skating away. Lastly. The Brashear thing... that was horrible. Itbwas at the end of McSorley's career. Brashear had gotten the best of McSorley in a fight earlier in the game. Marty was looking for him the rest of the game and going hard at him. Bybthe rime the game was winding down Brashear was ignoring him and Marty was incensed. As he said later, he tried taking the flat of the blade and slapping it against his helmet. He said all he wanted was to get his attention not to hurr him at all. Instead, the tip of the blade caught him UNDER the helmet and right on the temple. You can see what happened. Not making ANY excuses for him at all. However. The look on McSorley's face when he realized what he did was anytbing but someone who did that on purpose. He looked devestated. So, yeah. He was my favorite player growing up. And by all accounts, he was loved and respected by the entire league. I just want to try to ste the record straight. Did he do sometbing horrible? Yes. But by all accounts it wasnt intentional, he has spoken with Brashear about it since, and he felt horrible about it. He fought everyone and he and Probert were THE heavyweights of the era. He just wasn't dirty as this vid makes put. Anyway, just some pwrspective. Thank you for your time.
Not sure I have the same outlook as you during the Bob Probert fights. During most of his time with the Red Wings, he was an NHL champ, for sure. I still think McSorley got screwed on the brochure fight. Or none fight. That was truly b*******. I still think brochure dived. Marty definitely didn't deserve to be remembered like that. He was a straight shooter. Stand up type of guy. I'll always think that was b*******. You know and everybody knows, he got hit harder in practice than that one play. Hell, we all did.
Great fighter with best stamina of any player, except Domi. But when he did lose, he couldn't handle it and showed no class. That ultimately ended his NHL career with criminal attack on Brashear from behind.
You swing your stick at someone's helmet and whatever resulted is unintentional? I shot my gun off and someone walked into the bullet. Same logic. Animal.....
@steveyj75 Marty along with Stan Jonathan and Tie Domi had unbelievable endurance, never seemed to get exhausted in a fight. Must have had great cardio workouts. Actually Dave Schutz had pretty good staying power too, maybe just from fighting lightweights
I am 60 years old now and from Philly. I have seen all of the greats. The Title of the video is "The Most Feared" and there is one player that stands alone on the top of that list. Most Feared implies that when you have to play against this guy, you don't want to have to drop the gloves. There were many players who had no fear when it came to dropping the gloves but there was only one player that as an enforcer, you didn't really want to have to go fist city with. Of course I'm talking of none other than Dave Schultz. There were plenty of tough guys who played in Philly; Berube, Brown, Lindros, Tocchet, Kordic...only one guy was truly feared and that was Schultz.
Brown, Cochrane, Behn Wilson, and Brashear also played for Philly and were almost as feared as Schultz. Sandy McCarthy though, was washed up by the time he became a flyer.
Many good choices here. Many are also up for debate. Example, the Bruins. They had so many feared players, but nobody compares to Chara. I'm a Leaf fan but I've always thought that monster was the one player that nobody would want to mess with.
The key word is feared. Not fighter. Chara didn't need to fight because people were afraid of him. But yeah, Boston has had a lot of good fighters. All original 6 teams did.@@DJNAZZZZTY
@@williamrobinson604 But Taz was not only a good fighter but a good player too. He also would defend any Bruin without pause. I'd say this creator got it right...O'Reilly wasn't just feared for fighting & toughness but also because he was effective offensively too.
I've always heard that, when signing with the Kings, Gretzky insisted that Marty McSorley be a part of the deal, because Marty was his most effective protector. He was a very tough dude, but a really nice guy. It's a huge shame that the Brashear incident is all most people define him by.
Tony Twist and Kelly Chase were known as the "Bruise Brothers" when they played for the Peoria Riverman the Blues top minor league team. I had a t-shirt of them dressed like the Blues Brothers holding hockey sticks. The Riverman had an awesome team, won 18 games in a row, a record at the time for pro hockey.
Blackhawks should have been Al Secord. Only player EVER to score 50 goals in the same season he had over 300 penalty minutes. He was the enforcer for Denis Savard and the perfect line mate for Steve Larmer.
actually I'd put Brashear ahead of Gino. tiger was fearless but didn't win many fights and he didn't scare anyone fist-wise (only when swinging his stick).
@@lakeeriesailor2852 Agree. My only knock on Brashear is that he hugged too much. Couldn’t stand that. He was good with his fists, but the hugging & noogies didn’t help his power. If he swung from way back like Tony Twist, oh man, the devastation he would’ve had.
For Sabres, #1 is Larry Playfair. Not even close. Even Ray would agree. Ray fought a lot and was a dangerous fighter, but he was on the smaller side and lost a lot. Playfair was the NHL heavyweight champ for several years, and ruined players' careers. He fought less, because no one wanted to fight him.
Very enjoyable video, thank you! Correction: 19:18 Randy McKay has 1418 Penalty Minutes with the New-Jersey Devils... not 1418 Points. 25:14 What is Tarasenko doing there instead of the image of Tony Twist?
Good job. Tough to narrow it down. Clark Gillies certainly was very feared for the Islanders. Nick Fotiu for the Rangers. Behn Wilson and Dave Brown for the Flyers. Nilan and Ferguson were feared for the Candiens, but Larry Robinson might have been the most feared after he took apart Dave Schultz.
i saw nilan and a stooge pick a fight with a skinny 130 lb. college kid at northeastern. this kid knew how to fight and he hospitalized nilan's pal after bouncing him off an iron fence, leaving him with a gruesome lifelong forehead scar, and nilan ran away. nilan wasn't tough. there was always something wrong with him mentally. he was a criminal on skates.
Big time wrong on your NY islanders pick. Clark Gillies was the most feared player. Protected Trottier and Bossy and helping the Islanders to a NHL record 19 straight playoff series wins.
Gordie Howe was once offered a professional boxing contract, by a Detroit boxing promoter, early in Howe's career. He turned it down. Boxing lost, hockey won.
Brashear could use an honorable mention. Overshadowed on Philly but he was the one cat that had dominated Domi every time they fought, and a top contender for his time. Chara as well. Not known so much for his fighting at the NHL level but when he went off with that physical stature other players were in danger of getting shaken baby syndrome.
Brashear was hands down the most feared on the Vancouver Canucks, and perhaps when he played for the Flyers too. This list has a few big mistakes in it.
@@lakeeriesailor2852 But Brashear also backed down from a lot of fights. And Schultz _is_ the Flyers, the OG Broad Street Bully. Then there's also Bobby Clarke, Bob Kelly, Moose Dupont, Tocchet, Berube, Holmgren, Dave Brown, Dornhoerfer, the list goes on. I'd put any of those guys for Flyers above Brashear, but Schultz is the most iconic enforcer for them. Probably second most iconic player in general behind Clarke.
As a long time Calgary fan I agree that Tim Hunter should be the Flames representative on the list. And that Roberts and Peplinski deserved serious consideration as well. But Fleury, as much as we liked him, was more of a pest and a nuisance than someone other teams feared. Put Joel Otto there instead. Those Flames teams of the late 80's - early 90's were tough. They pretty much had an enforcer on every line.
I grew up just south of Hartford, and in 6th grade wrote a letter to Stu Grimson when he was with the Whalers for an assignment. Soon after he mailed me back a signed trading card and a heartfelt note, could not have been nicer. Always seemed like a good guy in interviews but damn he was a beast during games.
Laraque was the Oiler's best ever fighter, Semenko was more feared, partly because he hurt people in other ways such as stick, attacking from behind, kneeing, punching over refs.
Sorry dude but Clarke Gillies was the toughest Islander... Nobody ever beat him that I can remember and nobody wanted to fight him... Ask Dave Schultz...And he could score 40 goals.
cant believe this list does not include Dale Hunter Hunter is the only player in NHL history to have more than 1,000 points (1,020; 323 goals, 697 assists) and 3,000 penalty minutes (3,565, second all-time to Dave Williams)10 years of 200 plus penalty minutes
I met Tahir when he was playing for Newmarket. He was playing against my cousin who was Tie's teammate in Peterborough. Tie walked up to us and the first thing he did was say HI to my aunt. Nice touch. He is built like a freaking fire hydrant. I don't know why but that is the impression I got of him. He isn't tall but he has the look that you don't wanna mess with him. One of their teammates knocked my cousins front teeth out trying to toughen him up. He was big but he wanted to be a goal scorer. He was one of the top scorers on all the teams he played on. He should have toughened up as he never played a game in the NHL!!
Domi will always be remembered for hiding behind the ref from Richardson, Berube and McCarthy, then going after Adam Burt while he was tied up with Kaberle. Wendel would have never done that.
As a Dallas Stars fan and also a Minnesota North Stars fan before they moved to Dallas, i have to go with Dave Richter as the most fear guy for the franchise. Shane Churla for the Dallas Stars who also played with the Minnesota North Stars
One of my favorite karma moments of 90’s hockey was when Shane Churla had been working over Pavel Bure all game until Bure had enough and elbowed Churla right across the dome making him question life, the universe, and all of the choices he had ever made.
Blues have had a lot of tough dudes during their time. Even some of their smaller players like Bob Bassen could beat some a$$. Todd Ewen was a tough dude, I remember him knocking the sh** out of Probert during one of their fights. Then they had Tkachuk and Shanahan. Shayne Corson was also a tough mf too and is often underrated for how tough he was. He beat Domi in a fight.
Alright I gotta put my 2 cents in here. We are talking about scariest player right? Sharks- Link Gates. Devils- Cam Janssen Bruins-Bobby Shmautz Red wings- Joey Kocur (cause he ended Jim Kyte's career and destroyed Brad Delgarno's face with one punch, breaking his cheek, jaw and orbital bone.) while with red wings. Flyers- I got a tie between Shultz and Dave Brown. Every NHLer who played in that era was afraid of Brownie. Rangers- Barry Beck. Canucks- Gino Odjick (just cause I met Tiger Williams and he was the nicest old man ever. He came in our locker room after a game in Jr's. I asked him how many times he broke his nose, he said he lost count after the 10th time. Calgary- I'm bringing back Nick Fotiu over Timmy. That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.
Kocur was definitely fearsome, but in reality, he never did end anyone’s career. He most certainly DID severely injure a few people, but all of them came back and continued playing. Kyte was KOed in 89, but played until 1996. Jim Playfair played another seven years after the KO in the AHL. Brad Dalgarno took an entire year off after the face busting beating he took, but eventually returned.
I think you focused too much on penalty minutes than actual fighting ability. For the Sharks, Jeff Odgers was a punching bag. I would’ve picked Scott Parker. For the Canucks I would’ve picked Gino Odjick. For the Oilers, Laraque hugged more than punch. My Oilers pick would be Dave Brown. For Toronto, Domi fought a ton, but John Kordic was way better. For the Devils, Steven’s is a good pick, but I’d go with Ken Daneyko. There are more, but I’ll stop there. In the video you say the ‘60s was the toughest era, but I would say the ‘90s were way more violent. The amount of fights that occurred were off the charts.
agree with you on Kordic, but his time with the Leafs was quite short so that may have been factored in. Similar to Troy Crowder who would be the most feared Devil of all time had he been with that team a few more years and stayed healthy.
@@ferociousfil5747 Bob Probert is remembered as a Red Wing yet he put him as a Black Hawk. In my opinion John Kordic was the best fighter Maple Leafs ever had despite his short tenure. That dudes hands were fast.
Big Jim McKenzie first NHL fight against Brownie was pretty good. Possibly a loss for him. I think the first time Grimsson fought brown he won, next fight he got his face broken tho.
yeah this list has some mistakes, especially Tiger Williams for Vancouver. the most scary Leafs players were Clark and Belak. Domi didn't scare many opponents.
Clark always stood up for his teammates. Domi was a selfish attention whore who can take a shot to the head but never won any of his fights. Domi was a weasel off the ice. Crying to MLSE chairman Larry Tennebaum for a contract when then Leafs GM JFJ refused to resign him for good reason.
Chris Nilan is still my choice for Montreal. Feared and hated by all the other Adams division(toughest ever) and could still play some hockey. Knuckles has a great podcast now, invite anyone to watch it.
Anaheim Ducks - Skillwise it was Paul Kariya as he was smart and skilled enough to trick any defense or goalie. Reason why Gary Sutter and Scott Stevens attacked him. Otherwise it would be Corey Perry as he was both skilled and rough combined with being somewhat dirty so he got under player's skin easily for many years. Buffalo Sabres - Dominik Hasek 110% was the player who made opponent teams fear the Sabres as Hasek, the living wall had proven great enough to carry his whole team whole seasons and long play-off runs. Hasek could steal any great players scoring touches and bring em down to terrify the audience. New Jersey Devils - 1000% dirty Scott Stevens !!!! Pittsburgh Penguins - Mario Lemieux / Jaromir Jagr. Pick your poison because either Lemieux or Jagr was the best point scorer for several seasons and you let one go, the other would score, and throw on sneaky Ron Francis and the set was complete! Its criminal how dirty teams was against Lemieux, fearing his incredible skills.
Man, how'd I know the Sabre of choice was gonna be Rayzor? Took a puck to the dome the other night between the benches and he finished the broadcast with a bloodied eyebrow.
The only reason Probert as a Blackhawk don’t aggravate me is of course Mr. Hockey. I liked Scott Stevens too, he didn’t have to drop gloves to get the msg out, he was one of the most vicious open ice hitters in the game. Curiously one name should have been on this list somewhere, even though he had a short career I think Link Gaetz was probably the one guy most players never wanted to drop gloves with.
Howe was feared for his physical play and scoring. A true all around player. I would add Mark Messier with Howe . Domi and Nilon not so much. You would never see them on the ice in a key playoff game.
Cody McLeod over Chris Simon or Scott Parker for the Avs?.......what was your thought process on this? I'd fight CM over Si or Parker all day, everyday and twice on sunday
and I think ANY Isles fan would vote Gillies as the scariest Isle of all time....aside from Gillies, I'd have Baumgartner, Nystrom, Godard and Chara ahead of Vukota for the Isles
Berube spent the first seven years with the Flyers where he averaged more PIM/game than he did in Washington. Dave Schultz was a bad man, but he was not the Flyers' best fighter - that would be Behn Wilson, who consistently ragdolled almost every tough guy in the league. Not many videos exist of him, but he would take several punches to the face without any effect simply to position himself to pummel his opponent. He'd later turn over the puck in his zone in the third period, leading to a back-breaking goal. Dave Brown and Glen Cochrane were not far behind Wilson. My favorite "enemy" fighter not mentioned was Stan Jonathan of the Bruins. So much heart and a brutal pugilist on the ice for someone of such limited height. John Wensink was another, albeit he had the height. Larry Robinson was someone else who could throw down, beating Schultz in a memorable fight in the 1970s. Tiger Williams? Eh. Very good fighter, but nowhere near the best I've seen.
As a Nashville Predator fan Grimson is a good choice, but I still think his short time limits him. I personally would go with Jordin Tootoo, he’s just way more iconic in the Preds fan base even if he was a worse fighter overall.
Mentions that were left off: Bob Baun, Chris Nilan , Dale Hunter . Others I can think of would be Willi Plett , Clark Gillies (just ask Dave Schultz) , Pierre Bouchard and Dave Semenko.
Eddie Shore was Boston's most feared player, not Terry O'Reilly. What makes a player feared is NOT penalty minutes. Opponents put in hospital is what counts.
I remember probert on the hawks when i was a kid and i remember him fighting on many occasions but he lost al.ost all of those fights. He never got knocked out because he had a meatball inside his skull instead of a brain like me, but he didnt throw as many punches or as hard a punches than he did in detroit. Pound for pound chelios was the tuffest blackhawk and the best fighter probably goes to grimson or manson and hardest hitter might be Byfuglien.
Check out the Documentary "The Last Gladiators" Fighting and Protecting is why Chris Nilan was brought into the Canadiens organization. I'm fine with the rest of them.
you left out the fact that Joey Kocur had a devastating right hand (probably the best punch in Hockey).. he was a true enforcer, who was there to protect his teammates.. he rarely took cheap shots at the other teams skill players... that's why his PIM are not as high as others... he normally did not take "bad" penalties... and one more thing... the first photo you show of Kocur.... is not Kocur... I don't know who it is.. but it's not him
I remember O' Riley very well. Between him and Stan Jonathan, their job was to let Brad Park and Wayne Cashman pick fights and the boys would hoe in. Cashman would get his butt kicked if he followed thru with a fight, so the boys would bail him out. Jonathan was a little honey badger and a better fighter than O' Riley. Their battles with the Flyers in the day were classics. Another Whaler with a tough rep but not the minutes was Rick Ley, renowned for pounding USSR star Valery Kharlamov during an international series. It was noted. Probert was just off. He would have been nicknamed "Bugs" if he joined the Mafia. Maybe a better carer choice. He really didn't need a helmet. Howe was pretty much off limits when I saw hi with the Houston Aeros of the AHL, but being an AHL club they had other guys for that sort of thing. Research the Birmingham Bulls; fighting was the major part of the game plan. Being on open ice against McSorley was an invitation for a collision (clean or otherwise) . He would have been an ideal Flyer. He was a goon. And incredibly stupid to pick fights with Clark Gilles; so was anyone else. It was worth your life to try and mover Ferguson out of the crease. I grew up watching the Broad Street Bullies....'nuff said. So many to bail Bobby Clarke and Bill Barber out of trouble. Regarding Clark Gilles, he and Barber faced off in a near stick fight in Game 6 of the 1980 finals. Barber backed off when nobody came to help. Wise move, Flyers. Gilles was an animal and he loved pounding Flyers. Like a lot of these guys, Baxter had a baby face the contrasted sharply with his role. Kim Clackson of the Winnipeg Jets in the WHL was another. Clackson had to protect Bobby Hull and a bunch of Swedes, and he was very busy. Tiger is the Gold Standard. By the time he made it Vancouver his face was so flat you could eat wallpaper off it. His favorite offseason activity was bow hunting bears. True story.
Probert played for Chicago late in his career but he was the terror of the nhl when he was playing for Detroit. He and Kocur were feared throughout the league except by maybe Domi and McSorley. Putting Probert down as a Blackhawk instead of a Red Wing is highly controversial.
Gordie Howe, Bob Probert, and Joey Kocur might be the top 3 feared players in NHL history. Had to get them all on the list.
What I find funny or ironic, or however you care to call it. How many of these guys spent time in Detroit. Love my wings.
Kocur ended careers with his right hand when he was a wing. I put him at the top
Man idk .. I would be scared of all 3 lol .. but I’d be scared shitless of Joey .. that dude just hurt guys . That fucking jackhammer he had was just spooky
How Joey didn’t get selected for his time with New York rangers is just stupid . I understand Howe and Probert both being selected but Joey should be tapped as the bruise brother
As someone who has spent most of his life around rinks all over, I can tell you that the enforcers are some of the nicest people I have ever met off the ice.
Yep I met a few …totally humbled by playing in such a skilled sport
Yeah ,cuz they get their frustrations out.
Always remember that the toughest men possess the largest hearts... It's a true self defense mechanism against being taken advantage of for their kindness, thoughtful behavior and noble qualities...
@@williamjulian1331lol imagine being this dumb
Larry Robinson hall of fame
R.I.P. Bob Probert
R.I.P. Derek Boogard
R.I.P. Mike Jaffa
R.I.P. Eddie Shack
Rip CLARK GILLIES
Rip Gino odjick
RIP Craig Nuorivaara
You give Probert to the Blackhawks and don't mention Stu Grimson for them...Are you trying to create a parody?
@@nikospaleologos3907 grimson was drafted by the wings same draft they got phrobert and Kocur
Scott Parker was the Avs BMF it's not even close.
Scott Stevens was terrifying for the Devils. And nobody really wanted to fight Clark Gillies for the Islanders.
Stevens wasn;t much of a fighter. Gillies was a monster.
This list seems to be more about players numbers/stats more than who was actually the most intimidating while playing there.
Stevens just specialized in truncating other players' careers...
Gilles got his ass kicked by Wilson holmghen Byers paradise and he split his fights with oreily
He also split with Schultz
For the Rangers, you should have at least given an honorable mention to Nick Fotiu.
I was thinking the same thing but for Calgary 👍🏻
Absolutely
Nicky #22
A heart and soul NY Ranger !
Ol 'pie face' Fotiu
Craig coaxe tko Kocur and nick as an old man destroyed coaxe
Gilles was golden gloves. Fotiu was police athletic league boxing, I believe
Geordie Howe’s toughness is best shown in a 21 year span starting in 1949, he missed a total of 20 games. That is tough. Especially in that era with lesser equipment and fewer rules.
i met gordie when he was in his early 50s and shook hands with him. i clearly recall saying to myself that i hope this guy gives me my arm back. that guy was made of steel.
The Caps once had the best named line, the Capital Punishment line with Dale Hunter, Craig Berube and Chris Simon.
The French Connection (Gilbert Perrault, Rene Robert, and Rick Martin) of the late 1970s Buffalo Sabres...
Wow. Wish I could have seen that. Who took the faceoffs , scored the goals and most importantly was protected by his 4ough tough buddies. Love all 3 players. 2 are my countrymen. Native Pride!!!
Chris Simon was a scary dude. One of the top enforcers, no doubt.
As a flyers fan I would put Hunter or Simon in this spot.two guys that could put the puck in the net ,not only fight they were dirty players.berube was more of a flyer than a cap.that is a scary line…
@@charlesmurphy1840 Hunter was the center I believe. People forget that Hunter had over 1000 points and Simon led the Caps in goals one season.
To shed some light on McSorely. He was never the dirtiest player. He was the head of the players union and was one of the most respected guys on the ice. He fought and beat evwryone. In fact, he hunted probert. The longest fight in nhl history was McSorley and Probert. It ended when probert just skated backwards and McSorely asked him if he wanted to stop. Probert said, "i have nothing left". McSorley told the linesman to step in. Another fight they had McSorley was getting the better of him when he suddenly stopped and grabbed Probert with both hands. All action stopped. The linesmen stepped in and removed McSorley's helmet. Proberts finger was horribly caught in McSorley's helmet. Probert was on record saying "Marty could have killed me. He could have ripped my finger off my hand. He could have done anything he wanted. But he didn’t. He stopped and told the lineman who removed his helmet. He could have done whatever he wanted but he did the ine thing that saved me." Both times those fights ended with them touching their heads and skating away. Lastly. The Brashear thing... that was horrible. Itbwas at the end of McSorley's career. Brashear had gotten the best of McSorley in a fight earlier in the game. Marty was looking for him the rest of the game and going hard at him. Bybthe rime the game was winding down Brashear was ignoring him and Marty was incensed. As he said later, he tried taking the flat of the blade and slapping it against his helmet. He said all he wanted was to get his attention not to hurr him at all. Instead, the tip of the blade caught him UNDER the helmet and right on the temple. You can see what happened. Not making ANY excuses for him at all. However. The look on McSorley's face when he realized what he did was anytbing but someone who did that on purpose. He looked devestated.
So, yeah. He was my favorite player growing up. And by all accounts, he was loved and respected by the entire league. I just want to try to ste the record straight. Did he do sometbing horrible? Yes. But by all accounts it wasnt intentional, he has spoken with Brashear about it since, and he felt horrible about it. He fought everyone and he and Probert were THE heavyweights of the era. He just wasn't dirty as this vid makes put.
Anyway, just some pwrspective. Thank you for your time.
Not sure I have the same outlook as you during the Bob Probert fights. During most of his time with the Red Wings, he was an NHL champ, for sure. I still think McSorley got screwed on the brochure fight. Or none fight. That was truly b*******. I still think brochure dived. Marty definitely didn't deserve to be remembered like that. He was a straight shooter. Stand up type of guy. I'll always think that was b*******.
You know and everybody knows, he got hit harder in practice than that one play. Hell, we all did.
Great fighter with best stamina of any player, except Domi. But when he did lose, he couldn't handle it and showed no class. That ultimately ended his NHL career with criminal attack on Brashear from behind.
You swing your stick at someone's helmet and whatever resulted is unintentional? I shot my gun off and someone walked into the bullet. Same logic. Animal.....
He is from my hometown (Cayuga, ON) and is still loved and respected here! I love what you wrote.
@steveyj75 Marty along with Stan Jonathan and Tie Domi had unbelievable endurance, never seemed to get exhausted in a fight. Must have had great cardio workouts. Actually Dave Schutz had pretty good staying power too, maybe just from fighting lightweights
Probe is more so known as a Redwing
I am 60 years old now and from Philly. I have seen all of the greats. The Title of the video is "The Most Feared" and there is one player that stands alone on the top of that list. Most Feared implies that when you have to play against this guy, you don't want to have to drop the gloves. There were many players who had no fear when it came to dropping the gloves but there was only one player that as an enforcer, you didn't really want to have to go fist city with. Of course I'm talking of none other than Dave Schultz. There were plenty of tough guys who played in Philly; Berube, Brown, Lindros, Tocchet, Kordic...only one guy was truly feared and that was Schultz.
Good choice. Not Wilson? Cochrane??
Brown, Cochrane, Behn Wilson, and Brashear also played for Philly and were almost as feared as Schultz. Sandy McCarthy though, was washed up by the time he became a flyer.
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@@RayBecker read his book he was afraid of fotiu
@@lakeeriesailor2852 Dave Rickter was your best fighter
Many good choices here. Many are also up for debate. Example, the Bruins. They had so many feared players, but nobody compares to Chara. I'm a Leaf fan but I've always thought that monster was the one player that nobody would want to mess with.
Lyndon Byers, Stan Jonathon, Wayne Cashman, Chris Nolan
Chara was a great leader but he can't really even be considered as a fighter
The key word is feared. Not fighter. Chara didn't need to fight because people were afraid of him. But yeah, Boston has had a lot of good fighters. All original 6 teams did.@@DJNAZZZZTY
@@williamrobinson604 But Taz was not only a good fighter but a good player too. He also would defend any Bruin without pause. I'd say this creator got it right...O'Reilly wasn't just feared for fighting & toughness but also because he was effective offensively too.
I've always heard that, when signing with the Kings, Gretzky insisted that Marty McSorley be a part of the deal, because Marty was his most effective protector. He was a very tough dude, but a really nice guy. It's a huge shame that the Brashear incident is all most people define him by.
Brashear turtled and ran away
Tony Twist and Kelly Chase were known as the "Bruise Brothers" when they played for the Peoria Riverman the Blues top minor league team. I had a t-shirt of them dressed like the Blues Brothers holding hockey sticks. The Riverman had an awesome team, won 18 games in a row, a record at the time for pro hockey.
Probert also made the all star team when he played for Detroit.
Didn’t he score a goal too that year??
Blackhawks should have been Al Secord. Only player EVER to score 50 goals in the same season he had over 300 penalty minutes. He was the enforcer for Denis Savard and the perfect line mate for Steve Larmer.
I loved Al Secord when the Bruins had him. They should've never traded him...
Al had 44 goals & 303 minutes in 81-82, great Guy!!!
one of the worst trades Bruins made.
great video man!! you did a phenomenal job compiling all of this! i appreciate you!!
Are you his burner?
Nashville should be tootoo, he is the only reason I got into hockey growing up
Gino Odjick for Canucks, even tiger would fear him
actually I'd put Brashear ahead of Gino. tiger was fearless but didn't win many fights and he didn't scare anyone fist-wise (only when swinging his stick).
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Agree. My only knock on Brashear is that he hugged too much. Couldn’t stand that. He was good with his fists, but the hugging & noogies didn’t help his power. If he swung from way back like Tony Twist, oh man, the devastation he would’ve had.
Gino was a Dick, hit guys when they were down, sucker punches, just a Dick.
For Sabres, #1 is Larry Playfair. Not even close. Even Ray would agree. Ray fought a lot and was a dangerous fighter, but he was on the smaller side and lost a lot. Playfair was the NHL heavyweight champ for several years, and ruined players' careers. He fought less, because no one wanted to fight him.
I remember Don Cherry commenting that Larry Playfair was the toughest, meanest and most feared player in the NHL. Everyone gave him room
playfair was a beast
Very enjoyable video, thank you!
Correction: 19:18 Randy McKay has 1418 Penalty Minutes with the New-Jersey Devils... not 1418 Points.
25:14 What is Tarasenko doing there instead of the image of Tony Twist?
Cracked me up. I don't know why I found it so funny. Pretty good video though.
And Sean Avery’s picture is there instead of Joey Kocur
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Good job. Tough to narrow it down. Clark Gillies certainly was very feared for the Islanders. Nick Fotiu for the Rangers. Behn Wilson and Dave Brown for the Flyers. Nilan and Ferguson were feared for the Candiens, but Larry Robinson might have been the most feared after he took apart Dave Schultz.
This list doesn't necessarily represent who the most "feared" to play for each team is. More like, who put in the most work.
behn wilson v larry robinson would had been amazing.
for the Flyers there are 4 guys who were more feared than the rest of the League during their prime: Schultz, Behn Wilson, Brown, and Brashear.
Big Bird was very tough and one of my favourite Habs players
The Champ:
Tie "Cement Head" Domi. Short, scrappy, could throw a punch, could take a punch. Pulling a Flyers fan into the penalty box is classic.😊
Few names missing. Kelly Buchberger kept Gretzky safe for many years in Edmonton and Chris Nilan - his nickname “knuckles” says it all.
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Ovi never needed a protector. Best all around player .
i saw nilan and a stooge pick a fight with a skinny 130 lb. college kid at northeastern. this kid knew how to fight and he hospitalized nilan's pal after bouncing him off an iron fence, leaving him with a gruesome lifelong forehead scar, and nilan ran away. nilan wasn't tough. there was always something wrong with him mentally. he was a criminal on skates.
Sorry,Semenko took care of Gretzky.
The whole team watched their meal ticket.
Why did you show a picture of Tarasenko for Tony Twist?
He even showed Marcus for Mike Foligno.
Big time wrong on your NY islanders pick. Clark Gillies was the most feared player. Protected Trottier and Bossy and helping the Islanders to a NHL record 19 straight playoff series wins.
Your right,nobody wanted to fight him.
Stan Jonathan was more feared than O Reilly. Ask Butch Bouchard who he'd rather face.
Rumor has it they're still scraping blood off the ice 😁
perhaps, but time with the team may have been factored in this list, in which case O'Reilly had a longer career with the Bruins.
It was not Butch Bouchard, it was Pierre Bouchard BTW !
Cam Neely,and not a bad player either!
Gordie Howe was once offered a professional boxing contract, by a Detroit boxing promoter, early in Howe's career. He turned it down. Boxing lost, hockey won.
Great video. Thank you!
Brashear could use an honorable mention. Overshadowed on Philly but he was the one cat that had dominated Domi every time they fought, and a top contender for his time.
Chara as well. Not known so much for his fighting at the NHL level but when he went off with that physical stature other players were in danger of getting shaken baby syndrome.
Brashear was hands down the most feared on the Vancouver Canucks, and perhaps when he played for the Flyers too. This list has a few big mistakes in it.
@@lakeeriesailor2852 But Brashear also backed down from a lot of fights. And Schultz _is_ the Flyers, the OG Broad Street Bully.
Then there's also Bobby Clarke, Bob Kelly, Moose Dupont, Tocchet, Berube, Holmgren, Dave Brown, Dornhoerfer, the list goes on. I'd put any of those guys for Flyers above Brashear, but Schultz is the most iconic enforcer for them. Probably second most iconic player in general behind Clarke.
As a long time Calgary fan I agree that Tim Hunter should be the Flames representative on the list. And that Roberts and Peplinski deserved serious consideration as well. But Fleury, as much as we liked him, was more of a pest and a nuisance than someone other teams feared. Put Joel Otto there instead. Those Flames teams of the late 80's - early 90's were tough. They pretty much had an enforcer on every line.
I grew up just south of Hartford, and in 6th grade wrote a letter to Stu Grimson when he was with the Whalers for an assignment. Soon after he mailed me back a signed trading card and a heartfelt note, could not have been nicer.
Always seemed like a good guy in interviews but damn he was a beast during games.
I always associated Bob Probert with Detroit. The toughest guy I've ever seen for the whole league all time was Bob Gassoff with the Blues.
Love the nod for Laraque, but IMO Dave Semenko gets the Oilers title...I mean, he DID fight Muhammed Ali
Laraque was the Oiler's best ever fighter, Semenko was more feared, partly because he hurt people in other ways such as stick, attacking from behind, kneeing, punching over refs.
Get out of here with that BS. That was an exhibition fight. Ali fought in sweats and played around the entire fight. JFC.
Sorry dude but Clarke Gillies was the toughest Islander... Nobody ever beat him that I can remember and nobody wanted to fight him... Ask Dave Schultz...And he could score 40 goals.
I'm ok with the Vukota pick. List didn't really seem to be who was the most "feared" to play for the team.
#9 also schooled Terry O'Reilly during the 1980 playoffs
cant believe this list does not include Dale Hunter
Hunter is the only player in NHL history to have more than 1,000 points (1,020; 323 goals, 697 assists) and 3,000 penalty minutes (3,565, second all-time to Dave Williams)10 years of 200 plus penalty minutes
I met Tahir when he was playing for Newmarket. He was playing against my cousin who was Tie's teammate in Peterborough. Tie walked up to us and the first thing he did was say HI to my aunt. Nice touch. He is built like a freaking fire hydrant. I don't know why but that is the impression I got of him. He isn't tall but he has the look that you don't wanna mess with him. One of their teammates knocked my cousins front teeth out trying to toughen him up. He was big but he wanted to be a goal scorer. He was one of the top scorers on all the teams he played on. He should have toughened up as he never played a game in the NHL!!
You need a more attentive editor. That was clearly James Neal first shown to be Stu Grimson. Lots of little errors or clips replaying.
And clearly Vlad Tarasenko said to be Tony Twist? WTF
This mook doesn't even know hockey. Every single countdown video he does is full of fuck-ups.
There’s one more enforcer for the Vancouver Canucks and that was Gino odjick
Domi will always be remembered for hiding behind the ref from Richardson, Berube and McCarthy, then going after Adam Burt while he was tied up with Kaberle. Wendel would have never done that.
As a Dallas Stars fan and also a Minnesota North Stars fan before they moved to Dallas, i have to go with Dave Richter as the most fear guy for the franchise. Shane Churla for the Dallas Stars who also played with the Minnesota North Stars
I always hated Basil McRae played against my Blues
One of my favorite karma moments of 90’s hockey was when Shane Churla had been working over Pavel Bure all game until Bure had enough and elbowed Churla right across the dome making him question life, the universe, and all of the choices he had ever made.
For Nashville I think it should be Tootoo. I’d put Belak, McGrattan, Cote and Hartnell before Grimson.
I said the same thing. People outside of Tennessee always gloss over the preds and say something crazy
We all love Gordie. But if you’re saying he’s more feared than Bob Probert or Joey Kocur for Detroit you’re fucking crazy.
It was the only way he could get all three of them in there.
I think Colorado's contribution should be Chris Simon. He was a menace.
Blues had a lot! Twist, Chase, Butcher, Gastoff, Mayers, Stevens, McRae, Pronger
Blues have had a lot of tough dudes during their time. Even some of their smaller players like Bob Bassen could beat some a$$. Todd Ewen was a tough dude, I remember him knocking the sh** out of Probert during one of their fights. Then they had Tkachuk and Shanahan. Shayne Corson was also a tough mf too and is often underrated for how tough he was. He beat Domi in a fight.
Playfair was top tier.
Alright I gotta put my 2 cents in here. We are talking about scariest player right?
Sharks- Link Gates.
Devils- Cam Janssen
Bruins-Bobby Shmautz
Red wings- Joey Kocur (cause he ended Jim Kyte's career and destroyed Brad Delgarno's face with one punch, breaking his cheek, jaw and orbital bone.) while with red wings.
Flyers- I got a tie between Shultz and Dave Brown. Every NHLer who played in that era was afraid of Brownie.
Rangers- Barry Beck.
Canucks- Gino Odjick (just cause I met Tiger Williams and he was the nicest old man ever. He came in our locker room after a game in Jr's. I asked him how many times he broke his nose, he said he lost count after the 10th time.
Calgary- I'm bringing back Nick Fotiu over Timmy. That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.
Kocur was definitely fearsome, but in reality, he never did end anyone’s career. He most certainly DID severely injure a few people, but all of them came back and continued playing.
Kyte was KOed in 89, but played until 1996.
Jim Playfair played another seven years after the KO in the AHL.
Brad Dalgarno took an entire year off after the face busting beating he took, but eventually returned.
Hunter was a good enforcer but Fotiu, McGrattan, Lucic, and a few others were way more feared.
Domi also hasd the hardest shot on the team, and was the fastest skater.
I think you focused too much on penalty minutes than actual fighting ability. For the Sharks, Jeff Odgers was a punching bag. I would’ve picked Scott Parker. For the Canucks I would’ve picked Gino Odjick. For the Oilers, Laraque hugged more than punch. My Oilers pick would be Dave Brown. For Toronto, Domi fought a ton, but John Kordic was way better. For the Devils, Steven’s is a good pick, but I’d go with Ken Daneyko. There are more, but I’ll stop there.
In the video you say the ‘60s was the toughest era, but I would say the ‘90s were way more violent. The amount of fights that occurred were off the charts.
agree with you on Kordic, but his time with the Leafs was quite short so that may have been factored in. Similar to Troy Crowder who would be the most feared Devil of all time had he been with that team a few more years and stayed healthy.
Kordic is remembered as a Hab.
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Bob Probert is remembered as a Red Wing yet he put him as a Black Hawk. In my opinion John Kordic was the best fighter Maple Leafs ever had despite his short tenure. That dudes hands were fast.
Dave Brown, Kevin McClelland, Marty McSorley and of course Dave Semenko.
For the Sharks I'd have picked Link Gaetz. Parker is more associated with the Avs.
Dave Brown of the flyers I don't remember him ever losing/ he killed DOMI
Actually out of three fights, to be fair was 1-1-1, and not to diminish Brown, look how big was Brown compare to Domi.
Big Jim McKenzie first NHL fight against Brownie was pretty good. Possibly a loss for him. I think the first time Grimsson fought brown he won, next fight he got his face broken tho.
@@tanderson6442I suggest you go watch that fight again. Brown smashed him.
Wendel Clarke was and is 10 times tougher than Domi , Clarke hid from no one!!
yeah this list has some mistakes, especially Tiger Williams for Vancouver. the most scary Leafs players were Clark and Belak. Domi didn't scare many opponents.
Clark always stood up for his teammates. Domi was a selfish attention whore who can take a shot to the head but never won any of his fights. Domi was a weasel off the ice. Crying to MLSE chairman Larry Tennebaum for a contract when then Leafs GM JFJ refused to resign him for good reason.
Cool video, I can tell how young you are by how you mispronounce some of the names 😜 but still awesome to be giving these guys a shout out, great job!
Chris Nilan is still my choice for Montreal. Feared and hated by all the other Adams division(toughest ever) and could still play some hockey. Knuckles has a great podcast now, invite anyone to watch it.
McKay *did not* get 1418pts in NJ lol he's got 363 CAREER pts 😂
Lol, i came to say this too.
Anaheim Ducks - Skillwise it was Paul Kariya as he was smart and skilled enough to trick any defense or goalie. Reason why Gary Sutter and Scott Stevens attacked him.
Otherwise it would be Corey Perry as he was both skilled and rough combined with being somewhat dirty so he got under player's skin easily for many years.
Buffalo Sabres - Dominik Hasek 110% was the player who made opponent teams fear the Sabres as Hasek, the living wall had proven great enough to carry his whole team whole seasons and long play-off runs. Hasek could steal any great players scoring touches and bring em down to terrify the audience.
New Jersey Devils - 1000% dirty Scott Stevens !!!!
Pittsburgh Penguins - Mario Lemieux / Jaromir Jagr. Pick your poison because either Lemieux or Jagr was the best point scorer for several seasons and you let one go, the other would score, and throw on sneaky Ron Francis and the set was complete! Its criminal how dirty teams was against Lemieux, fearing his incredible skills.
every preds fan would say Jordan Tootoo. legend
I'd choose Cam Neely or Milan Lucic over O'Reilly. Maybe even Chara or Thornton
Really cool video but you have some pictures wrong. There’s Sean Avery instead of Joey Kocur and Vladimir Tarasenko instead Tony Twist.
Really dude, Domi ……. Clark is by far the most feared player that was ever on the leafs
Nah, Domi was the real deal. Am a huge Wendal Clark fan, but Domi was an assassin. You know why he was out there, and he let you know why too.
They fought you can look it up and no domi was tuffer by a long shot
Man, how'd I know the Sabre of choice was gonna be Rayzor? Took a puck to the dome the other night between the benches and he finished the broadcast with a bloodied eyebrow.
I thought Colorado would be either Claude Lemieux or Dale Hunter
Also Marty micSorley was the enforcer with the great one Wayne Gretzky during the LA kings team
You left off Downtown Dave Brown. Steve (Big Mac) Macintyre.
The only reason Probert as a Blackhawk don’t aggravate me is of course Mr. Hockey. I liked Scott Stevens too, he didn’t have to drop gloves to get the msg out, he was one of the most vicious open ice hitters in the game. Curiously one name should have been on this list somewhere, even though he had a short career I think Link Gaetz was probably the one guy most players never wanted to drop gloves with.
Also tim hunter was part of the Vancouver Canucks team
Love your video explaining style such a simple and cool video 💥 and Tie domi is the best Enforcer in my view
They got this list pretty much right. Canadian stamp of approval here 🇨🇦
Howe was feared for his physical play and scoring. A true all around player. I would add Mark Messier with Howe .
Domi and Nilon not so much. You would never see them on the ice in a key playoff game.
Peter worrel is best goon of florida😅.
For the Blackhawks an honorable mention should go to John Scott.
Cody McLeod over Chris Simon or Scott Parker for the Avs?.......what was your thought process on this?
I'd fight CM over Si or Parker all day, everyday and twice on sunday
and I think ANY Isles fan would vote Gillies as the scariest Isle of all time....aside from Gillies, I'd have Baumgartner, Nystrom, Godard and Chara ahead of Vukota for the Isles
might have put Behn Wilson or Dave Brown over Schulz for the Flyers....all due respect for The Hammer
Berube spent the first seven years with the Flyers where he averaged more PIM/game than he did in Washington. Dave Schultz was a bad man, but he was not the Flyers' best fighter - that would be Behn Wilson, who consistently ragdolled almost every tough guy in the league. Not many videos exist of him, but he would take several punches to the face without any effect simply to position himself to pummel his opponent. He'd later turn over the puck in his zone in the third period, leading to a back-breaking goal. Dave Brown and Glen Cochrane were not far behind Wilson. My favorite "enemy" fighter not mentioned was Stan Jonathan of the Bruins. So much heart and a brutal pugilist on the ice for someone of such limited height. John Wensink was another, albeit he had the height. Larry Robinson was someone else who could throw down, beating Schultz in a memorable fight in the 1970s. Tiger Williams? Eh. Very good fighter, but nowhere near the best I've seen.
Wrong on the Blues......Bob Gassoff was the menace wearing the Note......
As a Nashville Predator fan Grimson is a good choice, but I still think his short time limits him. I personally would go with Jordin Tootoo, he’s just way more iconic in the Preds fan base even if he was a worse fighter overall.
for the islanders its has to be Nystrom or Gillies period.
NO CHRIS PRONGER ?????
Nice job,
Glad you named Ferguson. He averaged 20 goals a season. Nobody wanted to fight him
Mentions that were left off: Bob Baun, Chris Nilan , Dale Hunter . Others I can think of would be Willi Plett , Clark Gillies (just ask Dave Schultz) , Pierre Bouchard and Dave Semenko.
I can recommend spitting chiclets interview with Vukota, seems like an unreal guy!
Some choices are surprising at first than you think, yeah its right...like ferguson for mtl.. he's more an underground legend
Probert also had his best season 29g plus 32a for 61 points, Not too shabby
Eddie Shore was Boston's most feared player, not Terry O'Reilly. What makes a player feared is NOT penalty minutes. Opponents put in hospital is what counts.
too bad it’s just one player because TERRIBLE TED one of the most feared and respected platters of allllll time!!! forever grateful he was who he was
Probert and Kocur played together with detroit for quit a few years AKA The Bruise Brothers
I know they said Berube was the best fighter for the Capitals then, but personally I think that currently Wilson is one of the toughest we have
Can't even compare Wilson vs Berube. Berube fought EVERYONE
Funny how we suffisticated the name enforcer from goons just to make it more gentle. That cute 😂
Good call for Ferguson SR
I remember probert on the hawks when i was a kid and i remember him fighting on many occasions but he lost al.ost all of those fights. He never got knocked out because he had a meatball inside his skull instead of a brain like me, but he didnt throw as many punches or as hard a punches than he did in detroit.
Pound for pound chelios was the tuffest blackhawk and the best fighter probably goes to grimson or manson and hardest hitter might be Byfuglien.
How do you put Mick Vukota over Clark Gillies?
Well done !
Check out the Documentary "The Last Gladiators" Fighting and Protecting is why Chris Nilan was brought into the Canadiens organization. I'm fine with the rest of them.
Nilan could actually play to. Definitely one of the toughest American born players to come out of college.
you left out the fact that Joey Kocur had a devastating right hand (probably the best punch in Hockey).. he was a true enforcer, who was there to protect his teammates.. he rarely took cheap shots at the other teams skill players... that's why his PIM are not as high as others... he normally did not take "bad" penalties... and one more thing... the first photo you show of Kocur.... is not Kocur... I don't know who it is.. but it's not him
Domi to hockey fighting, is like Tyson to boxing.
Thumbs up for having Paul Laus for Florida.
Maybe before everyone's time but Eddie Shore aka the Edmonton Express was the most feared and skilled player of his time.
Old time hockey, if ya know ya know.
I remember O' Riley very well. Between him and Stan Jonathan, their job was to let Brad Park and Wayne Cashman pick fights and the boys would hoe in. Cashman would get his butt kicked if he followed thru with a fight, so the boys would bail him out. Jonathan was a little honey badger and a better fighter than O' Riley. Their battles with the Flyers in the day were classics.
Another Whaler with a tough rep but not the minutes was Rick Ley, renowned for pounding USSR star Valery Kharlamov during an international series. It was noted.
Probert was just off. He would have been nicknamed "Bugs" if he joined the Mafia. Maybe a better carer choice. He really didn't need a helmet.
Howe was pretty much off limits when I saw hi with the Houston Aeros of the AHL, but being an AHL club they had other guys for that sort of thing. Research the Birmingham Bulls; fighting was the major part of the game plan.
Being on open ice against McSorley was an invitation for a collision (clean or otherwise) . He would have been an ideal Flyer. He was a goon. And incredibly stupid to pick fights with Clark Gilles; so was anyone else.
It was worth your life to try and mover Ferguson out of the crease.
I grew up watching the Broad Street Bullies....'nuff said. So many to bail Bobby Clarke and Bill Barber out of trouble. Regarding Clark Gilles, he and Barber faced off in a near stick fight in Game 6 of the 1980 finals. Barber backed off when nobody came to help. Wise move, Flyers. Gilles was an animal and he loved pounding Flyers.
Like a lot of these guys, Baxter had a baby face the contrasted sharply with his role. Kim Clackson of the Winnipeg Jets in the WHL was another. Clackson had to protect Bobby Hull and a bunch of Swedes, and he was very busy.
Tiger is the Gold Standard. By the time he made it Vancouver his face was so flat you could eat wallpaper off it. His favorite offseason activity was bow hunting bears. True story.
Scott Stevens is the Career ender Lindros and Karyia are the biggest examples
Ridiculous choices. Clark Gillies by far for the Islanders. Vukota? lol
Semenko for Edmonton.
No question,I remember hospodar cheap shotted bossy, and Gillies broke his face!!!