I have former homosexual friends that asked me to attend a private wedding. They knew I didn't condone their relationship. I explained I wouldn't attend because it went against the Lord God's plan for marriage. They never went through with the marriage, and after seven years of friendship with these two, they renounced homosexuality, to Lord God, me and the LGBT community. They're still good friends and godly witnesses of the grace of Christ to transform us. My love for them and my refusal to condone their lifestyle was a testimony of Christ that drew them into repentance.
Begg talked about the difference between British/European evangelism and American evangelism. As I've said on another platform, as a British Christian, I can confirm to everyone that there is only BIBLICAL evangelism. We must not affirm open rebellion to God's will in any way.
Exactly I am Scottish same as Alistair I couldn't believe it when I heard him. I've left a church is the church if Scotland because it's going to be performing gay weddings others are blessing the marriage how can you be a pastor and go against what Gods word says as far as I am concerned you cannot and anyone who says it's ok needs to go and read Gods word
Why was it fine though? Do you have biblical support for that? How is it good to attend a ceremony that basically make a mockery of God’s design for marriage? It also celebrates degeneracy and perversion. Attending is giving approval.
@@kierananderson5807 You are part of the apostatizing problem then. Examine yourself and see if you haven't been corrupted by insidious Marxist world thinking. You are in terrible error if you think your Countrymans advice and refusal to recant his error is absolutely fine. Are you of the Faithful? Were you ever of us?
@@IamGreatsword you ought to be very careful with the accusations you dish out. "I tell you, on the day of judgment you will have to give an account for every careless word you utter." I used to be like you until fairly recently. Accusing every disagreeing believer or perhaps even weaker brothers of being apostate. I do examine myself, although not nearly enough sometimes. Be careful that you do the same.
I’m British 🇬🇧 and what on earth does that matter when your preaching from the Word of God, the truth is for all born again Christian’s whether your British 🇬🇧 American 🇺🇸 or any other culture.
It was quite strange his bringing up "American Fundamentalism." It was odd and insulting, as if the whole "two countries divided by a common language," must also apply to Biblical interpretation.
@@Nicky-hr1qz Alistair is British Scottish, I’m British English or you could be British Welsh or British Irish, but we are all British, which is what Alistair bizarrely said, I hope that helps.
I am no longer surprised at the derailment of anyone. Grieved but not surprised. Pray for your pastors and only follow others in as much as they are following Christ.
Unfortunately, from most of the comments I'm reading in here, most are following Mr. Peters and Mr. Phillip. How do we know how THEY are following Christ? I'm seeing Mr. Beggs as living out the Gospel. p.s. he doesn't have a "Alistair Beggs Ministry" going ... ever notice how many pastors/leaders have their OWN ministry with their OWN name(s) and their own ... yada yada
Yes. I have prayed for pastor Begg to recant and to repent from his sin. And for Lord to grant mercy to his soul if he won’t repent! 😓😔😞😟 In my grief and sorrow, I wrote to TFL to tell them my prayers for pastor Begg and to end my Truthpartnership of 2 years and 7 months! I was heart broken and still is as I have been taught by pastor Begg for 4 years through UA-cam and I have learnt a lot of Lord’s Truth from him. But I can’t follow a pastor who has started to betray Lord and The Gospel and has become defiant and disobedient! 😢😔😞😟😓
This is sad, but it is also scary when considering how quickly, how easily all of us, me most of all, would rely on our 'own wisdom'. We must rely on Christ, we must pray for one another and encourage one another. Let us pray for Alistair, and perhaps even fast over this. What is also shocking is the enormous support of 'reformed' believers and the lines that are being drawn, which tempt both sides to sin when engaging one another.
He has books to publish, speaking engagements to schedule, radio broadcasts to deliver. Attention like that is seductive. I wonder how much Paul charged for his letters? Did synagogues raise admission prices when Peter delivered a sermon vs the usual rabbi? I have respected Begg for years but perhaps he has held prominence for too long now and has come to believe his own hype.
There are a few important issues that are causing lines to be drawn in the sand, and the division between the wheat and the chaff in the Church right now. And it's happening very quickly.
So the lesson is your quote, so time for me to start condemning and dividing, no room for compassion, I will get rid of compassion and Jesus because Jesus was wrong about eating and drinking with sinners. You must be right because you used all capital letters.
@@annodomini7250 Are you unaware that this is a quote Jesus made? We must love God above all things, above anyone or anything. It is not loving to dishonor God and celebrate the sins that lead people to hell. That doesn't build bridges but perpetuates sin that harms the soul and destroys lives. The result of honoring and following Jesus is that many people (even family members) will reject us and hate us, because of our love of and obedience to God. Jesus said they will hate us because they hated Him first. This is a valid quote for the situation, and if you misunderstand it, it may be because you have not read or do not study the Bible. If you do, you have misunderstood the text and why it is a relevant quote, in this situation. For those who truly believe, personal sin is so grievous, we want nothing more than to be sanctified, turn from sin, and follow our Shephard, even if we lose people we love by standing by the truth of the Gospel.
@@gazingupward2802 Have you watched Alistair Begg's sermon Compassion V Condemnation with an open heart and mind? The Pharisees knew the scripture inside out and upside down, and their religious practices to perfection and yet Jesus message to them was you missed the point.
Thank you for the the clear and gracious response. Pastor Begg has heard what the issues are after Pr MacArthur called him. He will not be speaking at Shepherd’s conference. Praying that he gives prayerful consideration to the truth and repents.
I have a gay nephew who is my favourite relative. He is actually the only person in the family who will talk and listen respectfully with me about God. He lives with his boyfriend and I am on friendly terms with him, and hold no animosity with either of them; they are not professing Christians, they are of the world. BUT if they invited me to a wedding, my dividing line would be honouring God as HOLY. One of my (and I use it only for me) go to verses to keep me on point with the things of God. Numbers 20:12, (This is God's rebuke of Moses and Aaron at the waters of Meribah where God declares what they did has resulted in them being disqualified of taking the people into the promised land.) "And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 'Because you DID NOT BELIEVE IN ME TO UPHOLD ME AS HOLY in the eyes of the people of Israel' ". I hold to the sentiment of this verse as showing the seriousness of how God views Himself. I truly believe I must, before anything else, with my actions and words to show my belief that HE IS HOLY and must be upheld as HOLY.
I used to think that Moses was rebuked for striking the rock at Meribah but recently found out that Moses and Aaron took credit for something God did. God is a jealous God and punished Moses and Aaron for saying they brought forth the waters when it was, in fact God who told them to speak to the rock. If God would stop Moses and Aaron from entering The Promised Land because they failed to give honor to God, what will happen to pastors who lead millions of people astray by their careless and sinful advice to people they don't even know?
If he is were living, unmarried to woman and they had a child would you refuse to attend a baby shower or send gifts? Or a baby dedication or christening?
Yet Jesus broke bread with sinners showing his love, do you think he disagreed with their sin, of course. God knows your heart if you went to their wedding you would be showing love and that love might plant the seeds of salvation in their hearts whereas staying away might say that you are judging them and Christianity hates them.
The act of sharing a meal with a gay relative is not a sin. Attending their birthday celebration is not sin. Going to the movies with them is not a sin. Attending a gay wedding, however, is sinful as it is a celebration of sin, the celebration of desecrating God's marriage ordinance and sexual sin. There is a very clear distinction.
Sadly I'm not surprised at all. We our in the time of a great falling away and none of us is immune. We have to cling to the truth no matter the cost and Quit putting men on pedestals.
I'm a South African, I understand you guys perfectly well, not because of culture, but because I study the same Bible as you. Thanks again my dear brother Justin. I so much would love to meet you here on earth, but if that's not possible, I'll see you in heaven. 😊
I am a woman who lived most of my life as a gay person. 2005 God delivered me from this lifestyle and I am eternally grateful. I was completely ostracized by my gay peers most vehemently. I chose to love them and try to speak to them in truth with love, however they wanted nothing to do with any of that or me. In these many years since I have come to know other homosexual people, usually through work settings and they have been much more open to hearing what I have to say. I do not hate them or judge them and they appreciate that and the fact that although I can not be a participant or condone their lifestyle they are open to hearing the gospel message and appreciating that I pray for them and their partners and that they may know how our Lord can and will change their hearts and minds as He did for me.
Spot on! I too noticed the erroneous use of the parable of the Prodigal Son. It occurred to me that the father didn't throw a going-away party for the younger son to show his love. Repentant truly is the key word here as you suggested. Thanks for the good analysis!
@@stu1002 It is a parable, so parsing out individual points separate from the main one is dangerous. However, the reading does not suggest that the younger son had even made his future intentions clear when asking for his inheritance.
@@pastornathanwalter4641 Saying "it's a parable" and that one can't parse out individual points seems disingenuous and highly selective. More to the point, by asking "Give me my share of the estate" - which would normally happen upon his father's death, he's making pretty clear his intention.
Did you folks listen to the sermon to the end? Have you read the parable to the end? The story doesn't end with the party. The parable is NOT over. The lesson Jesus wants to drive home is NOT that the sinner repents. Keep reading! The Father shows compassion to the sinner; the "Christian" condemns. Mr. Beggs kindly reminds the listener that many are quick to criticize and slow (if ever) to forgive.
“Love does not delight in evil” (I Cor. 13) is sometimes translated as “Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness.” Both mean that we should not celebrate what God says is wrong. Another example we are living in the "last days" and God is NOT mocked. Real love is the love of Christ, not the celebration of sin.
Where did you get the idea that the grandmother was "celebrating" the marriage? Before Alistair suggested that she attend, she already had expressed her belief that homosexual marriage is a sin. So what makes people think that she wanted to attend in order to "celebrate" the marriage? Mere attendance, and even the bringing of a gift, does not automatically signify approval or celebration. If that was the case, Jesus would never have dined with tax collectors and "other sinners." So, you believe that her love for her grandson means that she delights in evil? I never thought of applying that verse in that kind of manner or situation.
I have seen loving pastors responding biblically and kindly asking that AB recant and repent, but many fans choose AB over God’s word. This is the idolatry in Christianity that is so easy to fall into. Pray for Pastor Begg, pray for the flock, and read the Bible.
What makes you say so?, where in the bible did Jesus say never attend a gay wedding? Which God's word are you using to condemn his compassionate advise, of which he explained almost in tears, what do you people want from him, he has explained why he said so an even added that on another scenerio his answer may be different, and he also mentioned a bible gift what really is it? Hum humm😮
@@bibleknowledgerevolution8022 Incest is up next on the cultural degeneration continuum. When--not if, but when--the grandmother says, "Well, you know, my grandson wants to marry his sister (or maybe even his brother!)", then what? Gramma should go and bring a gift right? "Hey kids, I've brought you a toaster; have a wonderful life together. Look, I know that God says in His Word that what you are doing is an abomination to Him, but I know better. You two will have a wonderful life together; I know that you are already compatible because you both came from the same mother and father!" How very loving of Grandma.
Matthew Vines cannot be called a pastor and be a homosexual at the same time. He’s an unrepentant unbeliever and no where in scripture can he be called a pastor. The state may deem him a pastor, but clearly the state has no authority in the church. I would dare say that any gathering where people are in rebellion to God’s Word, the gathering cannot be called a church, where there is no scriptural correction or accountability. The state may declare a gathering a church but the state lacks the authority under God to do that
Adding to the position of children brought up our niece went and got artificial impregnated and had to beautiful twins boy and girl. It breaks my heart that they will be brought up in this Satanic thinking. I have a transgender Grandaughter and a homosexual Grandaughter. I did not attend the weddings of my Transgender Grandaughter and the other one has not married only lived in sexual immorality. My problem is I want no part of the sin but I love my Grandaughters .I also love the people .I hate the sin and love the people but it wrong I struggle dealing with the whole thing. I stand on God's word and I will not attend any marriages even if it cost me them!!!! Help me pastors Kathy cobert
Stand strong and continue your path of holiness and righteousness sister. You know that we will be hated for Yahweh's namesake. Remember what the Word of God tells us in Matthew 10:36-39 [36]And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. [37]He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. [38]And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. [39]He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Colossians 2:8 [8]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Thank you so much for sharing sister. I was a lesbian for 45 years and came to Yahweh at the age of 57 (four years ago). I praise and give all the glory to Father in Heaven for delivering me of this abominational lifestyle. Hallelujah! I lost many "so called" friends but were they really my friends? I got remarks like, how could you? Oh, now you're a Bible thumper, etc. I knew deep in my heart that they were not really loving me and tried to pursuade me to change my mind. A few had left the church. They did not want to hear anything I had to say. I closed that door and actually moved away and got off facebook and instagram.. I hate that sin and find it repulsive. And believe me, satan is angry and tries to tempt me with nasty dreams but I know God loves me so much that He chose me to come out of Babylon and for a time like this. I had raised my son in that lifestyle and asked him to please forgive me for not raising him in a proper household. At first he had a difficult time accepting me as a Christian mother but thanks be to Father in Heaven ouŕ relationship is flourishing. 🙏 God bless you and keep you in His grace.
@@YashuahservantThanks for sharing your life story. 🙏 I have watched Matt Walsh's "What is a Woman?" documentary. That was truly eye opening. Especially bc it shines a light on the trans rights with children choosing to be mutilated. There are more detransitioners that the far left want to ignore. I think one girl was named Chloe. She had double mastectomy at 15. When she told the gender affirming card doctors that she had regrets, they totally turned on her. Even telling her that she should have known the risks. I have a dear family friend that is in a lesbian relationship. We cannot get into any political topics and especially not what the Bible says about these sins. God destroyed the earth with a flood bc of wickedness and sin. And God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah bc of their gross immorality and homosexuality. I really care about my friend, but I would not celebrate with their civil union ceremony and I wouldn't buy them a gift. Our friendship has grown more distant the deeper I study my Bible and read the Word of God. She believes in God but is far from God. I pray for my friend and her partner. 🙏 That somehow or someway He will draw them to Himself. We are all sinners saved by grace. My sins are different. I've repented. I continue to pray for their eyes to be opened and they repent of their lifestyle. Unfortunately, the alphabet people hang out with only other alphabet people or people who support and encourage their lifestyle. They don't get validated by Bible Believing Christians. So, they usually call us homophobs or close minded or other label. God bless you. God, please 🙏 help my friend and her partner. Open her eyes. Send someone to raise awareness. I pray for her salvation. 🙏
I remember reading Charismatic Chaos by John MacArthur and after watching Justin Peters series of videos about the Charismatic Movement, I left the Movement, my logic being , my presence there would only validate their teaching . I would apply the same logic here too. As a Christian, there is no way possible I could attend these “weddings” because you are , by your presence and those that know you are a Christian, giving your approval or validation of same. My conscience would scream with conviction to attend same. Nope.
It is true that the majority of churches in the UK 🇬🇧 are compromised and would probably agree with Alistair Begg but in this spiritual waste land there is a remnant of biblically faithful Christians still holding fast to truth and contending for the faith.... sadly the majority of the remnant are without a pastor and or church...... We seek for one but there are none to be found. Blessings and love to all the sheep of Christ, May the Lord forever be glorified ❤
There are many of us in the American unchurched remnant as well who, like my family, live in rural or other areas with no access to a sound Biblical local church. 🙏
It is not ideal, but the Internet is a wonderful substitute if there is not a good church within reach. You just need to be wise and check a few out, as in all things there are good and bad.
This breaks my heart. I felt sick watching his Sunday sermon and agree that it was accusatory, condescending, belittling, and condemning of those who actually love and care for him and his ministry. I still cannot believe his congregation applauded him after he basically insulted them as well. What is happening?!!
Obviously there’s been much false leadership on Begg’s pastoring. That area of the country is financially secure due to the infamous Cleveland Clinic. Any of the leadership in those churches are reaping the benefits. Just as in politics, it’s all about Power Money Greed. So Sad and Sinful the way of the World.
@@yvonnekennedy6105Yeah, when Paul Washer said that to the church of Joel Osteen(I think it was his church) my jaw dropped. Not because Washer was wrong but because of Washers commitment to GOD and his love for those people needing them to hear that it was THEM he was speaking about. Paul Washer is not going to back away from the gospel.
The fact the AB has responded the way he has and not repented and refuses to listen shows a hardened heart and it didn’t just happen over night . Sin confuses and blinds!
a lot of preachers preach the biblical truth until a particular sin shows up in their life or in their own family/close friends...then they bend so they can stay in the good graces of their family...this is a HUGE mistake. Hope he sees the error and repents of his attitude
I don't worship teachers and I do support Brother Justin's work in helping rescue souls from false teachers. What Alistair did was a gross error and is trying to compromise with the world. Alistair brought shame upon The Body of Christ. Alistair's previous comments on homosexual sin means nothing now. It's arrogant to think that we save souls that are the work of God and the Holy Spirit. Watching 2 people affirm their path to hell while giving them a gift is wrong. Judgement starts at the church GOD is Not mocked. 1 John 2:15-29 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
Pastor Begg, I am so grateful that this 'firestorm" over the Christian grandmother happened, for MY sake. I have been listening to your fantastic teaching about compassion, and how to love the un-lovely, and it has been a HUGE help to me in my Christian walk....I watched the hysteria unfold in an evangelical church here in America which did indeed look very much like the prodigal older brother with no understanding of grace and saw an explanation of why so many in this culture dismiss the church as 'haters'. God Bless you, mighty man of faith, and servant of the Most High. My walk toward heaven is a little straighter today because of your teaching, and I say that with no intention of changing my basic understanding of the reformed faith. I have, however, been reminded that I hold my nose and walk past a fellow-sinner without telling them where to find the living water.....at my own peril.
Beautiful discussion, I appreciate the honesty and the kindness shown here. I pray that Begg will see his error and repent from making a foolish comment and that he will hear the correction from wonderful brothers like you two.
When Begg said that those saying it's wrong all the time are hiding their own SS lust ... I would have loved him to back that up with Scripture, because that was *the world's* argument. :-(
Luke 6:27-36 NKJV “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who asks of you.
I believe he was alluding to to the way the Pharisees who would criticize others and refuse to even be in the same space as ‘sinners’ but were themselves beset by all manner of sins. He was just comparing his critics to that. While that may have been okay in other ways, in this case it’s very invalid I think.
I don't think it's the world's argument - I think it's demonstrably the case, and in terms of Biblical precident, I would say it's plausibly the sort of situation one would have with the Pharisees which Jesus rebukes so harshly right through Matthew 23. Matt 23 is an incredibly important chapter - Jesus goes in HARD on the Pharisees for a whole chapter - there's nothing else like it where he scorches with criticism quite like it in scripture - and the whole basis of it is legalism, and keeping the letter of the law while being without love or mercy.
and i suppose that no one can speak against ANY type of immorality....because they are secretly wanting to engage in particular immoralities.....it doesnt make sense at all. and i agree...it was desperate.
What slander you're all okay with. I mean, I can't listen to Voddie anymore, because of the way he speaks of it in such harsh terms, however to say Voddie does so because he harbours a secret inclination himself ... SLANDER. Jude, Peter, James and John must have been hiding *wicked* sins, to have written their books.
“Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. Nothing is covered up ... that will not be revealed, ... or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark ... shall be heard in the light, ... and what you have whispered in private rooms ... shall be proclaimed on the housetops." [Luke 12]
Sobering to read the Word of God. The pharisee is declared by God. I am content to know that God knows so that whoever declares whatever have only to answer to God. And not to a person like a pharisee seeking men's approval.
If anything, good has come from this debacle it is this. It has sharpened the mind and allowed people to think through from a biblical perspective the situation that surrounds the discussion. An excellent video. Thank you.
When a person attends any wedding, they are not just a spectator but a WITNESS to the marriage, giving their full agreement to the marriage if they don't respond when asked "If anyone has any reason that this couple should not be married, speak now or forever hold their peace".
@@liliz5792 And just because the minister doesn't ask the question, you're still functioning as a witness. The wedding is the making of the marriage covenant. Covenants require the two parties to bind themselves by agreement. Covenants require witnesses who can testify both parties ascented to the covenant. And the "till death do you part" echoes the self-maledictory oath that is part of biblical covenants.
Agreed. I’ve commented similarly in other videos. You cannot attend a wedding as a spectator. You are a participant. One’s attendance IS their support.
@@diasporan4159 uh, because we love him? ...and he is walking a slippery slope of unbiblical witness to the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman as God has ordained it and not man??... And because he will be held to a much higher degree before God as a leader and a pastor and I don't want him to slip into a downward spiral of sin that can so easily beset those who shepherd a flock??....and because we love him???? ...and because he has been one of my favorite guys to listen to and this is painful to see and I have much hope for God doing his internal work within him as he exposes him and causes Alistair to work out his salvation with great fear and trembling upon an open stage???
@@jody2873he was never for homosexuality. He's against the sin not the sinner. A homosexual does not even know he/she is committing ongoing sin.. They are a slave to that thought process and emotion. Gospel and the Holy Spirit changes them.. Not us condemning them constantly. We are sinners too so how can we judge someone else to be of sin.
He did say at least some part of his own staff has told him he was wrong, so I think he has gotten at least a little good counsel, but he definitely responded defensively, and, wow, did he make an even bigger mess of this.
Actually, if you listened to Alistair's full sermon, he admits that some of his fellow pastors do disagree with his advice. I feel like most of those on this comment chain did not actually listen to Alistair's full sermon on this.
No one is perfect, but he should know better. I do. I am not a minister, head of a church or scholar of the Bible. Yet having studied the Bible, you know what is right and wrong when you hear it or at least you should. He is just falling in lock step like so many others when it comes to the lgbq+t. They just do not want to acknowledge sin is sin and want to be their own Gods.
If you listened to the sermon in its entirety, he goes to great lengths to reaffirm his belief that it's SIN. He preached to a uni audience that walked out on him for saying so. Please please find an example where his fundamental beliefs have changed. There aren't any.
Sheer nonsense. He's got years and years of material calling out same sex relationships. But hey, that would require you actually listening to something he's actually said to know that
What Alistair said in the past means nothing now. He is now the poster boy for the homosexual community who can claim that Christian people should just accept it, because look your pastor says you should go in love and bring a gift for 2 people bound for hell. 👭🎁🔥👹 Deuteronomy 11:1, 16-22 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway. Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them; And then the LORD'S wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you. Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates: That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth. For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;
Once you compromise the gospel you will misuse the gospel to justify your error, which is what Alistair Begg did with the prodigal son. There’s more to this situation than what has been revealed.
He is not talking about the prodigal; he's talking about the elder brother. The Pharisees realized that He was talking about them (and got angry with him). Why can't you realize that he's talking about the elder brother?
@@mrs.t7351 he is gaslighting anyone who opposes his position as “the angry older brother who doesn’t want the grandma to go to the wedding” absolutely a horrid misuse of scripture to fit his narrative
I just want to say that I’m so thankful for your ministry Justin Peters. You and your guest made so many excellent points that are important for Christians when it comes to discernment.
Thank you for your comments on this very sad situation. I have listened to Alasdair Begg sermons from the UK, and I was and am so shocked by this seemingly prideful stance and hurtful comments toward brothers who have disagreed with his advice. Living in the UK has been difficult for me as it is a very secular culture. I am a South African and miss my church family so much. But there are sound churches here too and follow so called fundamental Christianity. There is one truth, Jesus said" I am the truth" we need to be aware of the Devil and his tactics, "Did God really say that". Thank you for your discussion. We need to encourage one another, I appreciate this discussion. God bless you.
I'm wondering, from many of these comments, if most of you even listened to Pastor Begg's sermon. People! None of his beliefs about LBG** have changed. The title of the sermon was so masterful. It frames the "controversy" perfectly. His tone was loving and measured. He didn't "defend" his opinion. Instead, he gently used Scripture to explain his reasoning. (Like Jesus did to his critics...turn to a parable. Some will understand; the rest will continue to accuse.) He could have easily said that his critics were like the Pharisees, but he didn't. I was ready for him to use I Cor 8:13 to gently turn the tables and say these "Christian" critics were the "weaker brother." No, he simply states his case. I admire him for that. I liked, as part of his advice, that grandma should give a Bible as a gift. I wish we knew how it all turned out! Put two believers together and it won't take long for them find something upon which to disagree (presidential candidates, pro-life/pro-choice, political party affiliations, pre-/post-/a-millennials, etc. ad nauseam) Here's another sad case of where non-believers watch "woke" believers going on another rampage. Grandma shows compassion while the rest condemn. P.S. By the way, notice that there is no "Alistair Beggs Ministry." He's humble. Didn't know much about the man before, but now I'm going to follow his sermon series.
@@Raya-ir4tm I can't be sure, but I would guess you haven't listened to the sermon if this is what you think was said. I've listened to it twice, and he didn't say neither of those things.
I have listened to Alistair Begg for years and heard him in person too. He has been a wonderful Bible teacher up till now, but he has made a bad mistake in this instance. The Bible passages he used were all mis-applied by him and more or less teach the opposite of what he was trying to say. This is very sad and we do not know what will be the final outcome. He needs prayer, his family and church too.
I don't know how much more hearing about this I can take. This is the 5th or 6th video on it. It needs to be done, I'm not disagreeing with that. I just can't take it anymore. I watched a portion of his response where he said he will not repent and doesn't need to repent. It was horrifying. I tried to watch more of it, but I just can't. I don't even know what the Prodigal Son parable has to do with this situation. The main focus of the parable is repentance. There was no repentance from this trans person. And there's no repentance from him. So... what's the point of using this passage?! What's most horrifying is seeing all the professing Christians actually defending his original advice. That has left me stunned. And sick. The church of Jesus Christ is supporting "trans" "weddings" now? Seriously?!
@Yesica1993. You are absolutely right. What is even more upsetting than Alistair Begg’s actual advice is the way professing Christians are going down like nine pins on this issue and supporting him. Surely a sign of the great falling away.
"Those who do "love the truth" (2 Thessalonians 2:10) are they in whom a divine work of grace has been wrought. They have something more than a clear, intellectual understanding of the Scripture: it is the food of their souls, the joy of their hearts (Jeremiah 15:16). They love the truth, and because they do so, they hate error and shun it as deadly poison. They are jealous for the glory of the Author of the Word, and will not sit under a minister whose teaching dishonors Him; they will not listen to preaching which exalts man into the place of supremacy, so that he is the decider of his own destiny." Arthur Pink, 1886-1952 "Experimental Salvation" "...They did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 2Thessalonians 2:10
I also was shocked by his interpretation of the passage regarding the prodigal son. I didn’t have to hear it from these respected pastors, to be able to see that this was not a correct interpretation. I understand how you feel about all of the attention being paid to this, I think it’s just so shocking coming from this man, who so many of us have loved and respected. Because he is so prominent, I guess it’s worthy of those trying to counteract what Pastor Begg has said, and recommended. I pray you find a church that meets your spiritual needs, don’t give up!🙏
What a horrible thing to raise suspicion and cast doubt on the pastors who will not compromise on the truth. I am so shocked by Pastor Begg’s recent comments.
I was really taken aback when I saw the sermon, too. I'm grateful for this video. Great points made and a great reference for future. I'm just really sad about the whole thing.
What do you think about the advise John MacArthur gave that it’s ok for a Christian to bake a specific cake for a gay wedding? Is it not the same thing?
@@liberatingtruths777 , providing goods and services under current laws makes the case a mute point. If you are baking cakes for a living and ANYONE wants you to bake a cake (for any purpose) and you refuse because you don't agree with their life-style (whatever that is) then you are discriminating and will be in trouble with the law. If you can't handle that, don't bake cakes for public consumption. In other words, baking the cake is your business, not a statement of agreement with the clients belief system. I'm baking you a cake; what you do with it is your business alone. This is quite different from attending a ceremony (which does imply consent). A Christian must not knowingly attend a pagan ceremony (for any reason) because that attendance mocks God, and also implies consent. They are two completely different things entirely. Case law shows this, as well as common sense. marcus
Marcus, I'm guessing you thought the Prodigal Son story was just about the wayward son. Mr Begg used the story as it was intended -- focusing on the Pharisees (religious conservatives) who refuse to forgive and show compassion. Instead, they double-down on their criticism. Focus on who Jesus is talking about and who the listener knows is the target of the parable.
@@liberatingtruths777this is more of a conscience issue. Baking a cake is not celebrating a union. It’s performing a service. You’d have to not bake cakes(or clean houses, or do accounting, or provide any service) for pretty much anyone who’s not a Believer. On the other hand; it becomes more complicated when writing on cakes. What are they asking to be written in the cake? Is it sinful ..and so on.
@@markh.harris9271Let me interpolate that the gay wedding cake is required to be decorated with dildos. Does that change your mind? The Colorado baker offered the gay couple any standard cake but would not use his talents to meet their specific demands. What you seem to think the law requires is slavery, which is not true.
There's a fine balance between being in the world and not condoning the world. I think he made an honest mistake and now he's doubling down out of pride
@@annodomini7250 We as (not necessarily you as of yet) Members of the Body of Christ look at the fruit and make Judgments. Read Matthew 7 fully and in context, rightly dividing it and get back to me. Love your facetious attitude though.
May our Lord and Savior be the one who places a conviction not to just Alistair Begg, but his congregation also. Which is why prayer is to be consistent for those going astray from scripture.
I completely support the Biblical wisdom and teaching of Alastair Begg. He is a man of prayer, faith, care for others. I will continue to listen to him with great respect. Trusting this to be over soon.
@@caroleimani9754 The prodigal son did not repent. He returned home because he thought he would be better off as a hired hand there when all the money was spent. His motivation was his self interest. And the Father meets him, still a long way off and embraces him *before he even speaks*. Moreover, there are two lost sons in this parable - the other son who remains at home is given half his father's wealth at the beginning, yet denies this later saying that his father has given him nothing. This is a lie. The older son is in rebellion. And yet, still the father's response to the older son is to PLEAD with him to join the feast...
If you're focusing on the son in the parable, you've misunderstood the point of the parable. The end of it is not at the party; it's the reaction of the eldest son. The father shows compassion; it's the self-righteous religious conservative who shows condemnation. I'm guessing the Pharisees never got the point either.
As believer's it's essential that we pray for these Bible teachers. That they repent,and confess the errors! I do pray for Alistair🙏 Thank you Justin for covering this issue.
thanks Justin for another talk on this very sad issue - it was very humble, loving and persuasive - our prayer is for AB to seriously think thru this very important matter - may God grant him the courage to recant and repent for the sole glory of God and for the sake of the church and the for world to know the truth
THANK YOU Brother Justin for Christian love by your guiding truth and Gospel light about this sad situation With Alistair Beg! I pray he will find his way and maybe the Lord can use this situation to bring more of the lost to the Truth of Jesus and the Gospel!
I love Dr Begg and I remember he said in a sermon in the mid 80’s, I think that the Church would face 2 main attacks from both the secular world but also within the church: 1) Who is Jesus? 2) Sexuality. He turned out to be right but given his consistency with regards to biblical marriage and sexuality for over 40 years, I hope this small hole gets fixed quickly. I will wait until the dust settles a bit and see if he repents or gets deeper entrenched into this position before deciding whether to continue listening to him. I have most of his earlier material which is wonderful, so I will always have that. God Bless ❤
Out of all the rebukes about AB horrible unbiblical advice he gave the grandmother, this interview is by far the best. It hits all the bible and ethical issues many of the others miss.
Thank you, Justin, for covering this as you have. There are many others who have exposed this, and as sad as it is, we need to move on. Begg has been warned and rebuked over his sinful and harmful comments, yet he fails to hold fast to the word of God. It's in God's hands now as to whether or not Begg will repent and recant; we as a body of Christ can do no more here and we need to continue to pray for Begg. God bless you, Justin!
The argument of Jesus eating with sinners? If you read Matthew 9:9-11 you will read that Jesus went and called to Matthew to follow him. Then it says that many tax collectors and sinners came and reclined at the table. What people tend to think is, Jesus went to the sinners and tax collector and hung out with them. That is not the case. The same happens in Luke 15, where the tax collectors and sinners were drawing near to Jesus. Again, the sinners and tax collectors followed Jesus. He was telling them truth, and ministering to them, not compromising and conforming to their life styles. As Christian’s we should never conform to the world, Romans 12:2 tells us not to be conformed to the world but be transformed by the renewal of our minds.
@@petercollins7848 no it does not if both parties know the other's position but out of love attending the wedding affirms nothing but the Christians' love for their relative. A little less judgment and more compassion.
Absolutely disagree you should be ashamed noting in this video reveals that he is in biblical error !! Stop staying on your echo chamber and your friend has said nothing biblical that refutes Beggs Defense , Begg does not support gay marriage or LGBQT marriages you guys are sick and ridiculous nothing here based in scripture or the life of Jesus . He is still faithful and still standing on Biblical principles and integrity !! Shame on you both . The bible definitely says not to point out a brother fault public ally on the internet !! I pray both you repent for helping to destroy a man of God !!!
Both of you men have just helped in a hit job on the public internet and he did not say he doesn’t think of himself as separate from those he serves . The arrogance of these two men who do not know Allister Begg !! Beware gentleman Gid will not let this kind of you tube hit job go unpunished!!
Allister never said or did anything you accuse him of I do not agree with that Allister is saying what you are saying . You’re both so horrible to treat Allister as you are !! You should go to him in private not on you tube wow I would never go to your church
My first inclination is prayer, for God's mercy, grace, love to be poured over this situation, yet I cant help but wonder, "What is God up to in all of this?" Surely whatever it is I trust that we all shall sing praise of His glory that will one day, be revealed in Christ Jesus. This gives me great peace.
Sex,idolatry,and pride are probably the most common sins of man, therefore, talked about the most. So I imagine, one would want to "talk loudly about" about these sins to warn people and to even get people to realize they are sinning.Which is why one wouldn't want to give a gift to someone in their family for a religious ceremony where it is being mocked.
I'm 66 and had a friend for years that is a homosexual. We met as young teens, he was not a homosexual then but became on in collage. I have told him for years that he is living in sin, and can not go to heaven unless he changes his ways and repents. He is living with a man as his husband, they are not married. I would never go to his wedding if invited. Because I feel it's supporting his sinful way of life. So no I do not agree with this pastor. Even if this were my child I would not attend this kind of wedding.
I feel like you missed the gospel. Your telling him he has to give up his “identity” essentially. His not hearing you. The gospel is that Christ loved us so much he died for us and his loving kindness draws us to repentance. It’s an act of the spirit not a will of man
Nope it's you who is wrong. This has nothing to do with identify. He in fact is living in sin, this is about sin and repenting of it. And he knows that .
@@carly-0-7 Uh? really? You do err not knowing the scriptures and have no clue what the Gospel is. Jesus said to deny yourself as in who you are and to sacrifice yourself, obey him and follow him. Take up the cross is denial of who you are/were. If you are drawn by the Father and given to the Son you will become a new creation and will be not comformed to this world (as ""were"" some of you) You are in complete error repent and surrender to God all your bad reasoning.
Makes me wonder, because Alistair has many grandchildren and loves them DEARLY and mentions them on occasion. The dominos are only just now starting to fall, and thanks be to God that He exposed this publically as He did and will continue to do so for Alistair and his soul. Im very courious to see how God will handle him in this. May take awhile, but i have a lot of hope and there's a lot of people praying for him and will be ample cleanup for sure. Thanks Justin and other guy 👍
Living in Western society, for any Christian parent of children and young adults, is a threat given the strong top down push of this ideaology and the status that it has. More and more Christians will be dealing with this. And I cannot begin to fathom the level of anguish and pain that it will produce. Many Christians will be shaken and that is why it is so important for us to strengthen our faith and trust in God. Really difficult days await. Edit - I am sorry for only saying Christian parents. I should have written all parents.
Having been around churches for 30yrs, I would honestly NOT be surprised if it came out that one (or more) of those grandkids has announced they are gay/trans/nonbinary/genderfluid/whatever, or he is suspicious that they're going to, and he's already decided he knows what "love" requires. It would not be the first time I've watched that happen. Which is why I think Jesus warned us that we must "hate" our family members (next to Him), because the temptation is always to excuse the sin of those we love and presume upon God's mercy as a cover. :(
@@cynthiacarter9055ya, I was trying not to imply that, but I wonder as well and sure wouldn't surprise me. This is just so out of his norm, it makes me think it would have to come from a family member probably to cause such a drastic change?¿. .. Though I could be TOTALLY wrong- just a guess
@@jody2873 I understand and agree. It's not like ministers are the only ones who change views based on family, either. Family bonds are hard to resist even when necessary. 😪
@@cynthiacarter9055sad, but absolutely true. And the pressure must be so multiplied as they are a target of the enemy. But the biggest fear for him is the higher level of accountability he will be held to before God as this will easily domino if there is no repentance. I'm praying for him and his soul and the likely domino in the making. I love this guy- one of my favorites. Was anyway.
I’m not going to comment on Alistair Begg’s advice or response on this issue, but will just say that as a Bible believing Christian who has had to walk down this road with family members and make decisions regarding how to best interact with people I love who have taken similar paths - there are alot of people sitting on the sidelines giving advice, and saying what they would or wouldn’t do with utmost confidence who are far removed from this actual issue and aren’t actually having to live this out day to day. We can be clear on what the Bible teaches, and what we believe and stand firm on that - but it’s easy to throw out verses on You Tube, and throw stones and make bold statements about how you would handle the situation without having to navigate how to best witness to or love family members who are caught up in this messed up world. Talk is cheap. If you haven’t actually lived this out in your family it could be wise to slow down a bit and try to have a bit of grace for those who are trying to work through it.
Exactly, talk is cheap! Especially carnal and sensual talk that has nothing to do with biblical truths! No, your words mean nothing because they’re seeking to *please people* and choose *fear of men,* instead of fear of God and God-pleasing! All you need to do is quote the WORD OF GOD to prove the truth! All other talk is *satanic garbage and dung!* Ephesians 5:11, 2 Corinthians 6:14-18, Matthew 10:37: Sooooo, if you chose your family members over God and His commandments, you are not worthy of Jesus❗️ He said, “if you love me you will keep my Commandments”‼️ He did NOT say, “if you love me, you will compromise with sin and sinners and will condone their sin, by celebrating it with them”!!! End of story, case closed. So I guess you’ve made your choice! Hopefully, you will have true repentance and change of mind and heart, while you are still breathing… God’s will be done! Shalom.
There's so much bad news in the Christian world and the secular. It grieves me to see it, but I know where it leads. It leads to Christ's return. It's just hard to watch everything, and everybody crash and burn around you. The prevalence and increase in evil does NOT surprise me. The speed in which it is becoming accepted and normal is mind-boggling to me. Lord, please don't forget your people. We are few, and we are surrounded by evil on all sides. We know Christ told us, "in this world, you will have tribulation" (what the world does to Christians). We are grateful you tell us we are not appointed to wrath (what God does to the world for what it did to his saints).🙏❤️🙏
Yes, amen. John 16:33 ‘I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.’
I agree with him. All this outcry reminds me of when the scribes, and Pharisees criticized Jesus because he was a friend of tax collectors and sinners. He never condoned what they did, but he engaged them in a way to draw them out of darkness and into the light.
I’m a 78 yr old Christian retired geriatric nurse. Begg has displayed his true self to all outside his church. His congregation’s applause displays the truth about how & what he’s actually pastored them. So that’s a church that I obviously couldn’t attend as his teaching is false in this area & how much more! Shame on this man for misleading his flock. Pray for him & his flock. Thanks so much for your true Christian inspiration. Love in Christ
So glad that Alistair stood by his view. I am the mother of two gay sons and one or two grandchildren. I have been so sad about this but know that I must love them and I have attended weddings which is so hard but God is love and he is full of grace for the lost. Christians are harsh. eternity will reveal all. Dorothy zfrench.
@@dorothyfrench2788 God's love draws harsh lines because without them we would delve into anarchy in a heartbeat and break natural and moral law at every turn. We don't get "excused" for sin. Our sin nature put Christ on that cross and you and I drove the nails in with a smirk
The enemy can fool even the elect… sad and scary. We need to pray for pastors who lead and teach under the name of Christ, remember there is gonna be a great falling away guys😞
No. Jesus said the enemy cannot deceive the elect. Matt 24:24. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders in so much that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive very elect. That means it is impossible. Thank God for his mercy.
Thanks for the video, Justin. The "Love trumps Truth" concept has been a stain on orthodox Christianity for decades. And, because love is a good thing, this problem can fly under the radar for a very long time and not be noticed. At my former church (which I had been at for over 18 years), the lack of truth appeared as a lack of discernment, pietism, a failure to "understand the times", and failure to teach the whole counsel of God. The "love trumps truth" unbalance at my church became exposed during the events of 2019-2020 (social justice, riots, kovidd, masks, vakseens, etc). When confronted about their silence, the leadership of the church saw no issues and basically told me I was being "too divisive" or "too political", as if the Word of God had nothing to say about these matters. I left that church and I'm still looking for another one. Videos like yours help me a lot in the meantime. 🙂
I applaud your courage to speak up. That isn't easy. And truth over love for sure. And often our definition of love is not aligned with love in the Bible or even what love actually is.
Brethren, thank you so much for the biblical stand in Alistair's unbiblical counsel, indicating his affirmation of sin that may be stumbling block to many both saved and unsaved. This grieves my heart because I remember when I sat in a conference listening to his teaching at Cedarville University in the late 90s. I think one of the great marks of godliness, maturity, and wisdom is one to be able to humble himself or herself and repent of sin. There is so much joy in true humility and repentance. One thing I disagree with you is to refuse counseling to someone you don't know. Biblical truth is universal and should not be limited to someone you know or attend to your local church. If one is not part of a local church, counsel the person to have Biblical sound church to attend regularly and counsel the person with any issues in the light of the Bible. There are other situations you cannot provide counseling and in those situations, give a reason you are not able to provide counsel. Maybe there are some details you don't know. What about if the person has a local church but it is a church pastored by Todd white, Joseph Prince, Joe Laughing Osteen, etc. are you going to let them go to these wolves to be devoured? With love in Christ!
I read this today in Religious News Service article (Editor’s Note: This story has been updated with news that Begg is no longer speaking at the Shepherds Conference.)
Oh! Thank God, they aren't sellouts to the world. I was concerned now I am still standing with the shepherd's conference leadership. Praise God! I thought I was going to have to mark and avoid them too, if they didn't Wisely drop the Apostatizing Begg. Hope he repents but the irreparable damage is done for him and his church sadly.
I just don’t understand all this horrible tearing apart of this godly man by what is supposed to be his brother’s in Christ,you just come across as if you’re enjoying yourselves,I have listened to this man for years and have greatly benefited from his teachings and just feel disgusted at what’s going on,I just pray that God will give him the strength and courage to press on,I for one never at any point thought he gave approval to transgender marriage.
Brother Justin, Thank you for the wisdom and grace you always bring to difficult situations like this. You are a true gift from God to the Body of Christ.
I can't thank you enough both Justin Peters & Dan Phillips for standing on God's Word - THE TRUTH. I'm a young christian trying to get rooted in God's Word. Justin Peters has helped me alot w/ his videos and teaching God's Word in CONTEXT. We are living in the end times and we all need to be held accountable if we are somewhat swaying off the straight & narrow road. I enjoyed the first video that Justin Peters did on this matter and I watched it again which was a good teaching for me too. I will watch this vid again this week sometime. I love the truth in God's Word even when it is extremely hard/tough love. I praise God for you faithful bereans of God. P.S. I want to be a faithful berean for God and my family & friends. I don't want to compromise God's word either. I pray God protects us from deception. This verses came to mind. 2Tim 4:3-5 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Reading the comments you can easily discern the children of light and the children of Darkness. He that does not hate mother father son or daughter their own life, is not worthy of the kingdom of God
Matthew 10:16-22, 26-28, 32-39 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite.buy
@@dh1335 We are to Obey GOD only family members not saved will hate us for our testimony. Alistair wants to make friends with the world, and his comments are grave error that no matter what he said about sodomy before means nothing.
Justin, Pastor Begg's position will be more or less the acceptable position for evangelicals if big names like MacArthur and or Piper don't speak to this publicly. It will be a watershed moment and the bar will be lowered. The Gospel will be undermined and many more lost and closer to Hell. This is serious! I'm concerned that more influential pastors and leaders has not come out on this.
This is not a surprise to God nor is it going to keep anyone out of the Kingdom who was supposed to be there. While this news is sad and tragic we need to trust the Lord and He will make things right.
Why does it boil down to them determining what is right or wrong in this. What if they come out on the side of Allistair? Will that then completely undermine ALL their years of speaking and living biblical truth? What about all those people who have come to a TRUE understanding of God's love and Jesus' sacrifice under their teaching, if they come out in favor of Allistair's position? Those saved, will their salvation be meaningless then. What if these pastors don't say anything? Will they be damned if they do, damned if they don't. I am a born again Christian and this whole judgment of a sound biblical teacher/pastor disgusts me. This splitting of hairs disgusts me. This whole thing smacks of pharisetical judgment.
I mean, do you need for the evangelical Pope to speak on this subject? Already, every Christian UA-camr with a discernment ministry and their mama made a video on this.
@@krisrader1711 To answer your question, yes. None of the "good" that they did will be remembered. “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die. (Eze 18:24). And again, we read, "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, My soul shall have no pleasure in him" (Heb 10:38) It's called apostasy. It is a proof of their reprobation and that they never were of Christ's household. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us" 1 John 2:19 But if you need proof that long years of ministry is no proof of God's acceptance of that person, and that God suffers reprobate people (for a time) to take care of His Church for its upkeep, read Eze 44:10-14 “And the Levites who went far from Me, when Israel went astray, who strayed away from Me after their idols, they shall bear their iniquity. Yet they shall be ministers in My sanctuary, as gatekeepers of the house and ministers of the house; they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister to them. Because they ministered to them before their idols and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity, therefore I have raised My hand in an oath against them,” says the Lord God, “that they shall bear their iniquity. And they shall not come near Me to minister to Me as priest, nor come near any of My holy things, nor into the Most Holy Place; but they shall bear their shame and their abominations which they have committed. Nevertheless I will make them keep charge of the temple, for all its work, and for all that has to be done in it" Should I also say, this undiscerning attitude which is so willing to compromise in the name of "love" (not love to God's glory or the purity of the Church in any way) disgusts me. This whole thing smacks of uncircumcised hearts and ears.
Judas was a disciple who proclaimed the gospel, cast out demons, and totally fell as he was never saved. As to your statement about splitting hairs, the devil splits hairs so we need to be careful with our handling of God's Word. This is all serious. An error like this can cause people to lack trust in the teacher or cause believers to ascribe to God's Word with evil and evil outcomes. That is the devil's work and Mr. Begg tragically now is being used as an instrument of evil. We need to pray for Mr. Begg and other pastors and church leaders daily. The big issue is if Mr. Begg refuses to see his error and refuses to repent. That’s where church discipline comes in as stated by Jesus and Paul in the NT. I think of the scripture the song of David when Israel was slain by the philistines with Saul and Jonathan. "How the mighty have fallen".
Justin, I think this is a huge part of your ministry: 17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[a] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. Ezekiel 3:17-18
I really appreciate this respectful and balanced discussion. I especially appreciated what was said in the beginning, that this is a rare blemish on an otherwise largely doctrinally sound ministry. We should continue praying for him ❤
Thanks brothers. Yes this has been helpful. It broke my heart when I first heard of this situation and I can only pray that Alistair comes to his senses and repents and be restored.
Not to all. There are other ways to make it clear. And since when do appearances dictate what we do? It doesn't mean it should not be taken into account.
This is tender for us. My husband is a public servant for a democratic city. The city hosts a pride and jr pride parade each July. July of 23, the city pulled on duty personnel to participate in the parades... This is so much more than a wedding! Danya
I would seek a religious exemption. I used to work as a waitress at a hotel near Washington DC. I was willing to work nearly every day, except Sunday. I asked for it off to keep the sabbath. A waiter who was Muslim complained and said it wasn't fair that I got off work on Sundays. My mgr told me I had to work some Sundays. After talking to my hisband, he agreed I needed to give notice and find another job. I was actually able to find a better job with better houra and pay that waiting tables. I praise God and thank Him everyday. .
Actually, Jesus was asked to dine with Pharisees (real ones, who invited Him) and Jesus confronted them as they were choosing their seats! So He did go to a meal with them, but He didn't sit and talk trash with them or try to blend in. He confronted them. But He was the Son of God and had authority to do such a thing. Thank you both for talking about this. It's got many of us upset. At this time in our culture while many Christians are paying a high price for being Christians, the faithful ones stick to scripture and get persecuted for it. So there is Alistair Begg trying to figure out how to get Christians "out of" persecution and send confusing double messages to the world. I don't think he's lost, but I won't be recommending listening to him to any new Christians! I don't know when his next compromise will be!
Thank you for keeping strong, Justin! I am sad about Alistair not repenting from that. Seeing many fall into their old age and bow down to the world, I feel nauseous. :( Let's pray for Alistair!
I have former homosexual friends that asked me to attend a private wedding. They knew I didn't condone their relationship. I explained I wouldn't attend because it went against the Lord God's plan for marriage. They never went through with the marriage, and after seven years of friendship with these two, they renounced homosexuality, to Lord God, me and the LGBT community. They're still good friends and godly witnesses of the grace of Christ to transform us. My love for them and my refusal to condone their lifestyle was a testimony of Christ that drew them into repentance.
AMEN!
You must have great influence if your friends concealed their wedding plans because of your witness.
That’s canceled not concealed.
TESTIFY👏👏👏
@@caroledwards9381Maybe it was God using their witness.
Let’s not forget John the Baptist lost his head because he wouldn’t bless an unlawful marriage in Matthew 14…there is a cost to following Christ.
That’s a great detail👍🏼
Awesome example!
Excellent point.
Great reminder wow
Irrelevant!!
Begg talked about the difference between British/European evangelism and American evangelism. As I've said on another platform, as a British Christian, I can confirm to everyone that there is only BIBLICAL evangelism. We must not affirm open rebellion to God's will in any way.
Thank you! You are correct.
Agreed. I wasn't aware there was a UK gospel that' different from American gospel.
Did Jesus visit the US with one message and the UK/Europe with another message? 🙄
Exactly I am Scottish same as Alistair I couldn't believe it when I heard him. I've left a church is the church if Scotland because it's going to be performing gay weddings others are blessing the marriage how can you be a pastor and go against what Gods word says as far as I am concerned you cannot and anyone who says it's ok needs to go and read Gods word
@robsrunners: Thank you for saying that. It kind of explains the strange dissonance, but doesn’t excuse it.
I'm from the UK and there are plenty of Christians here who are very troubled by what he has said and simply don't agree
I am from Scotland and I happen to think Alistair is totally in the right. People can disagree with him, but his advice was absolutely fine.
Why was it fine though? Do you have biblical support for that? How is it good to attend a ceremony that basically make a mockery of God’s design for marriage? It also celebrates degeneracy and perversion. Attending is giving approval.
@@kierananderson5807 You are part of the apostatizing problem then. Examine yourself and see if you haven't been corrupted by insidious Marxist world thinking. You are in terrible error if you think your Countrymans advice and refusal to recant his error is absolutely fine. Are you of the Faithful? Were you ever of us?
@@IamGreatsword you ought to be very careful with the accusations you dish out.
"I tell you, on the day of judgment you will have to give an account for every careless word you utter."
I used to be like you until fairly recently. Accusing every disagreeing believer or perhaps even weaker brothers of being apostate. I do examine myself, although not nearly enough sometimes. Be careful that you do the same.
There are Christians in the UK?
I’m British 🇬🇧 and what on earth does that matter when your preaching from the Word of God, the truth is for all born again Christian’s whether your British 🇬🇧 American 🇺🇸 or any other culture.
It certainly was a very bizarre thing for Alistair to say! I am British 🇬🇧 and I disagree wholeheartedly with his position.
Allistaire is Scottish @@nataliebirch777
@@Nicky-hr1qz yes I know 🥰 He is also British (Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales) As @paulwells4372 rightly says, what does it even matter
It was quite strange his bringing up "American Fundamentalism." It was odd and insulting, as if the whole "two countries divided by a common language," must also apply to Biblical interpretation.
@@Nicky-hr1qz Alistair is British Scottish, I’m British English or you could be British Welsh or British Irish, but we are all British, which is what Alistair bizarrely said, I hope that helps.
I am no longer surprised at the derailment of anyone. Grieved but not surprised. Pray for your pastors and only follow others in as much as they are following Christ.
Great, concise comment. Amen.
True! Like the vs of old hymn reads ‘I dare not trust the sweetest from, but wholly trust in Jesus name.’
Unfortunately, from most of the comments I'm reading in here, most are following Mr. Peters and Mr. Phillip. How do we know how THEY are following Christ? I'm seeing Mr. Beggs as living out the Gospel. p.s. he doesn't have a "Alistair Beggs Ministry" going ... ever notice how many pastors/leaders have their OWN ministry with their OWN name(s) and their own ... yada yada
We should keep praying for him.
ABSOLUTELY 👍
In fact, your hypothetical has happened and the children of gay marriages did not somehow inherit the supposed horns of their parents.
You guys know the people involved less than Alistair does, and are not shy to pile on the judgment.
Finally we hear from the horse's mouth, 30 minutes in.
Yes. I have prayed for pastor Begg to recant and to repent from his sin. And for Lord to grant mercy to his soul if he won’t repent! 😓😔😞😟 In my grief and sorrow, I wrote to TFL to tell them my prayers for pastor Begg and to end my Truthpartnership of 2 years and 7 months! I was heart broken and still is as I have been taught by pastor Begg for 4 years through UA-cam and I have learnt a lot of Lord’s Truth from him. But I can’t follow a pastor who has started to betray Lord and The Gospel and has become defiant and disobedient! 😢😔😞😟😓
This is sad, but it is also scary when considering how quickly, how easily all of us, me most of all, would rely on our 'own wisdom'. We must rely on Christ, we must pray for one another and encourage one another. Let us pray for Alistair, and perhaps even fast over this. What is also shocking is the enormous support of 'reformed' believers and the lines that are being drawn, which tempt both sides to sin when engaging one another.
James 1:19
He has books to publish, speaking engagements to schedule, radio broadcasts to deliver. Attention like that is seductive.
I wonder how much Paul charged for his letters? Did synagogues raise admission prices when Peter delivered a sermon vs the usual rabbi?
I have respected Begg for years but perhaps he has held prominence for too long now and has come to believe his own hype.
There are a few important issues that are causing lines to be drawn in the sand, and the division between the wheat and the chaff in the Church right now. And it's happening very quickly.
Weak pastor. Pray for him . 😢
@@toryquinton2677- quite true. Kinda like terrorist Mandela that believed he IS a hero, because the world said so.
"I have NOT COME TO SEND PEACE ON THE EARTH, BUT A SWORD. FATHER WILL BE AGAINST SON, MOTHER AGAINST DAUGHTER..."
So the lesson is your quote, so time for me to start condemning and dividing, no room for compassion, I will get rid of compassion and Jesus because Jesus was wrong about eating and drinking with sinners. You must be right because you used all capital letters.
@@annodomini7250 Are you unaware that this is a quote Jesus made? We must love God above all things, above anyone or anything. It is not loving to dishonor God and celebrate the sins that lead people to hell. That doesn't build bridges but perpetuates sin that harms the soul and destroys lives. The result of honoring and following Jesus is that many people (even family members) will reject us and hate us, because of our love of and obedience to God. Jesus said they will hate us because they hated Him first. This is a valid quote for the situation, and if you misunderstand it, it may be because you have not read or do not study the Bible. If you do, you have misunderstood the text and why it is a relevant quote, in this situation. For those who truly believe, personal sin is so grievous, we want nothing more than to be sanctified, turn from sin, and follow our Shephard, even if we lose people we love by standing by the truth of the Gospel.
@@gazingupward2802 Have you watched Alistair Begg's sermon Compassion V Condemnation with an open heart and mind? The Pharisees knew the scripture inside out and upside down, and their religious practices to perfection and yet Jesus message to them was you missed the point.
Thank you for the the clear and gracious response. Pastor Begg has heard what the issues are after Pr MacArthur called him. He will not be speaking at Shepherd’s conference. Praying that he gives prayerful consideration to the truth and repents.
The article is on Christianity Today : Alistair Begg Stands by LGBTQ Wedding Advice with Sermon on Jesus’ Compassion
I don't put my faith in a pastor i put my faith in Jesus and his word
Amen.
Great now pastors can say what they want bad or good, wrong or right does not matter AMEN
Amen and amen. Man will fail you but Jesus never will.
Amen@@mpmikeb1290
That's good but not the point here.
I have a gay nephew who is my favourite relative. He is actually the only person in the family who will talk and listen respectfully with me about God. He lives with his boyfriend and I am on friendly terms with him, and hold no animosity with either of them; they are not professing Christians, they are of the world. BUT if they invited me to a wedding, my dividing line would be honouring God as HOLY. One of my (and I use it only for me) go to verses to keep me on point with the things of God. Numbers 20:12, (This is God's rebuke of Moses and Aaron at the waters of Meribah where God declares what they did has resulted in them being disqualified of taking the people into the promised land.)
"And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 'Because you DID NOT BELIEVE IN ME TO UPHOLD ME AS HOLY in the eyes of the people of Israel' ". I hold to the sentiment of this verse as showing the seriousness of how God views Himself. I truly believe I must, before anything else, with my actions and words to show my belief that HE IS HOLY and must be upheld as HOLY.
I used to think that Moses was rebuked for striking the rock at Meribah but recently found out that Moses and Aaron took credit for something God did. God is a jealous God and punished Moses and Aaron for saying they brought forth the waters when it was, in fact God who told them to speak to the rock. If God would stop Moses and Aaron from entering The Promised Land because they failed to give honor to God, what will happen to pastors who lead millions of people astray by their careless and sinful advice to people they don't even know?
If he is were living, unmarried to woman and they had a child would you refuse to attend a baby shower or send gifts? Or a baby dedication or christening?
Yeah i would
Yet Jesus broke bread with sinners showing his love, do you think he disagreed with their sin, of course. God knows your heart if you went to their wedding you would be showing love and that love might plant the seeds of salvation in their hearts whereas staying away might say that you are judging them and Christianity hates them.
The act of sharing a meal with a gay relative is not a sin. Attending their birthday celebration is not sin. Going to the movies with them is not a sin. Attending a gay wedding, however, is sinful as it is a celebration of sin, the celebration of desecrating God's marriage ordinance and sexual sin. There is a very clear distinction.
Hey brother Alison from south africa,I love justin and I love Alistair but he is deep error and pray that he repents of his error.
Sadly I'm not surprised at all. We our in the time of a great falling away and none of us is immune. We have to cling to the truth no matter the cost and Quit putting men on pedestals.
I'm a South African, I understand you guys perfectly well, not because of culture, but because I study the same Bible as you. Thanks again my dear brother Justin. I so much would love to meet you here on earth, but if that's not possible, I'll see you in heaven. 😊
I am a woman who lived most of my life as a gay person. 2005 God delivered me from this lifestyle and I am eternally grateful. I was completely ostracized by my gay peers most vehemently. I chose to love them and try to speak to them in truth with love, however they wanted nothing to do with any of that or me. In these many years since I have come to know other homosexual people, usually through work settings and they have been much more open to hearing what I have to say. I do not hate them or judge them and they appreciate that and the fact that although I can not be a participant or condone their lifestyle they are open to hearing the gospel message and appreciating that I pray for them and their partners and that they may know how our Lord can and will change their hearts and minds as He did for me.
Was Matthew Vines "caught off guard" by Alistair Begg's "love" , and then repented of his sin? Nope.
Love it, excellent Q. My hats doffed to you.
Excellent point Max!
Someone should ask him that.
Spot on! I too noticed the erroneous use of the parable of the Prodigal Son. It occurred to me that the father didn't throw a going-away party for the younger son to show his love. Repentant truly is the key word here as you suggested. Thanks for the good analysis!
But he gave him his inheritance as he sent him on his way...he directly facilitated his leaving. He gave him a going away present if you like..
@@stu1002 It is a parable, so parsing out individual points separate from the main one is dangerous. However, the reading does not suggest that the younger son had even made his future intentions clear when asking for his inheritance.
@@pastornathanwalter4641 Saying "it's a parable" and that one can't parse out individual points seems disingenuous and highly selective.
More to the point, by asking "Give me my share of the estate" - which would normally happen upon his father's death, he's making pretty clear his intention.
@@stu1002he gave him what he asked for, just as God gave up sinners to their reprobate minds in Rom. 1.
Did you folks listen to the sermon to the end? Have you read the parable to the end? The story doesn't end with the party. The parable is NOT over. The lesson Jesus wants to drive home is NOT that the sinner repents. Keep reading! The Father shows compassion to the sinner; the "Christian" condemns. Mr. Beggs kindly reminds the listener that many are quick to criticize and slow (if ever) to forgive.
“Love does not delight in evil” (I Cor. 13) is sometimes translated as “Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness.” Both mean that we should not celebrate what God says is wrong. Another example we are living in the "last days" and God is NOT mocked. Real love is the love of Christ, not the celebration of sin.
Where did you get the idea that the grandmother was "celebrating" the marriage? Before Alistair suggested that she attend, she already had expressed her belief that homosexual marriage is a sin. So what makes people think that she wanted to attend in order to "celebrate" the marriage? Mere attendance, and even the bringing of a gift, does not automatically signify approval or celebration. If that was the case, Jesus would never have dined with tax collectors and "other sinners." So, you believe that her love for her grandson means that she delights in evil? I never thought of applying that verse in that kind of manner or situation.
I have seen loving pastors responding biblically and kindly asking that AB recant and repent, but many fans choose AB over God’s word. This is the idolatry in Christianity that is so easy to fall into. Pray for Pastor Begg, pray for the flock, and read the Bible.
What makes you say so?, where in the bible did Jesus say never attend a gay wedding? Which God's word are you using to condemn his compassionate advise, of which he explained almost in tears,
what do you people want from him, he has explained why he said so an even added that on another scenerio his answer may be different, and he also mentioned a bible gift what really is it? Hum humm😮
@@bibleknowledgerevolution8022 Incest is up next on the cultural degeneration continuum.
When--not if, but when--the grandmother says, "Well, you know, my grandson wants to marry his sister (or maybe even his brother!)", then what?
Gramma should go and bring a gift right? "Hey kids, I've brought you a toaster; have a wonderful life together. Look, I know that God says in His Word that what you are doing is an abomination to Him, but I know better. You two will have a wonderful life together; I know that you are already compatible because you both came from the same mother and father!"
How very loving of Grandma.
@@bibleknowledgerevolution8022hey "bible knowledge" ...watch the video before u defend evil
Thanks for this insightful discussion. Great guest.
Matthew Vines cannot be called a pastor and be a homosexual at the same time. He’s an unrepentant unbeliever and no where in scripture can he be called a pastor. The state may deem him a pastor, but clearly the state has no authority in the church. I would dare say that any gathering where people are in rebellion to God’s Word, the gathering cannot be called a church, where there is no scriptural correction or accountability. The state may declare a gathering a church but the state lacks the authority under God to do that
1 Corinthians 5:9-12 was written for 'believers' like Mr. Vine
@@justanoldman697Study to show thy self approved. You are certainly needing to Study context.
Adding to the position of children brought up our niece went and got artificial impregnated and had to beautiful twins boy and girl. It breaks my heart that they will be brought up in this Satanic thinking. I have a transgender Grandaughter and a homosexual Grandaughter. I did not attend the weddings of my Transgender Grandaughter and the other one has not married only lived in sexual immorality. My problem is I want no part of the sin but I love my Grandaughters .I also love the people .I hate the sin and love the people but it wrong I struggle dealing with the whole thing. I stand on God's word and I will not attend any marriages even if it cost me them!!!! Help me pastors Kathy cobert
Jesus promised us that those who give up father or mother or sister or daughter for His sake, will receive much more in His Kingdom.
GOD BLESS YOU for speaking out against sin.
Stand strong and continue your path of holiness and righteousness sister. You know that we will be hated for Yahweh's namesake. Remember what the Word of God tells us in
Matthew 10:36-39
[36]And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
[37]He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
[38]And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
[39]He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Colossians 2:8
[8]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Thank you so much for sharing sister. I was a lesbian for 45 years and came to Yahweh at the age of 57 (four years ago). I praise and give all the glory to Father in Heaven for delivering me of this abominational lifestyle. Hallelujah! I lost many "so called" friends but were they really my friends? I got remarks like, how could you? Oh, now you're a Bible thumper, etc. I knew deep in my heart that they were not really loving me and tried to pursuade me to change my mind. A few had left the church. They did not want to hear anything I had to say. I closed that door and actually moved away and got off facebook and instagram.. I hate that sin and find it repulsive. And believe me, satan is angry and tries to tempt me with nasty dreams but I know God loves me so much that He chose me to come out of Babylon and for a time like this. I had raised my son in that lifestyle and asked him to please forgive me for not raising him in a proper household. At first he had a difficult time accepting me as a Christian mother but thanks be to Father in Heaven ouŕ relationship is flourishing. 🙏 God bless you and keep you in His grace.
Well said friend!! Soli Deo Gloria!
@@YashuahservantThanks for sharing your life story. 🙏 I have watched Matt Walsh's "What is a Woman?" documentary. That was truly eye opening. Especially bc it shines a light on the trans rights with children choosing to be mutilated. There are more detransitioners that the far left want to ignore. I think one girl was named Chloe. She had double mastectomy at 15. When she told the gender affirming card doctors that she had regrets, they totally turned on her. Even telling her that she should have known the risks.
I have a dear family friend that is in a lesbian relationship. We cannot get into any political topics and especially not what the Bible says about these sins. God destroyed the earth with a flood bc of wickedness and sin. And God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah bc of their gross immorality and homosexuality. I really care about my friend, but I would not celebrate with their civil union ceremony and I wouldn't buy them a gift.
Our friendship has grown more distant the deeper I study my Bible and read the Word of God. She believes in God but is far from God.
I pray for my friend and her partner. 🙏 That somehow or someway He will draw them to Himself.
We are all sinners saved by grace. My sins are different. I've repented. I continue to pray for their eyes to be opened and they repent of their lifestyle.
Unfortunately, the alphabet people hang out with only other alphabet people or people who support and encourage their lifestyle. They don't get validated by Bible Believing Christians. So, they usually call us homophobs or close minded or other label.
God bless you. God, please 🙏 help my friend and her partner. Open her eyes. Send someone to raise awareness. I pray for her salvation. 🙏
I remember reading Charismatic Chaos by John MacArthur and after watching Justin Peters series of videos about the Charismatic Movement, I left the Movement, my logic being , my presence there would only validate their teaching . I would apply the same logic here too. As a Christian, there is no way possible I could attend these “weddings” because you are , by your presence and those that know you are a Christian, giving your approval or validation of same. My conscience would scream with conviction to attend same. Nope.
It is true that the majority of churches in the UK 🇬🇧 are compromised and would probably agree with Alistair Begg but in this spiritual waste land there is a remnant of biblically faithful Christians still holding fast to truth and contending for the faith.... sadly the majority of the remnant are without a pastor and or church...... We seek for one but there are none to be found. Blessings and love to all the sheep of Christ, May the Lord forever be glorified ❤
There are many of us in the American unchurched remnant as well who, like my family, live in rural or other areas with no access to a sound Biblical local church. 🙏
Yes, we are here in UK. Congregations under Commission are preaching biblically. Mainstream ones not so much 😢
It is not ideal, but the Internet is a wonderful substitute if there is not a good church within reach. You just need to be wise and check a few out, as in all things there are good and bad.
This breaks my heart. I felt sick watching his Sunday sermon and agree that it was accusatory, condescending, belittling, and condemning of those who actually love and care for him and his ministry. I still cannot believe his congregation applauded him after he basically insulted them as well. What is happening?!!
Obviously there’s been much false leadership on Begg’s pastoring. That area of the country is financially secure due to the infamous Cleveland Clinic. Any of the leadership in those churches are reaping the benefits. Just as in politics, it’s all about Power Money Greed. So Sad and Sinful the way of the World.
Alistair Begg has chosen "the BROAD way that leads to destruction."😮🔥
As Paul Washer often says, “what are you applauding for? I’m talking about you!!”
You are right. Allistar attacking His brothers and sisters in Christ to defend himself and the evil ones.😢
@@yvonnekennedy6105Yeah, when Paul Washer said that to the church of Joel Osteen(I think it was his church) my jaw dropped. Not because Washer was wrong but because of Washers commitment to GOD and his love for those people needing them to hear that it was THEM he was speaking about. Paul Washer is not going to back away from the gospel.
The fact the AB has responded the way he has and not repented and refuses to listen shows a hardened heart and it didn’t just happen over night .
Sin confuses and blinds!
a lot of preachers preach the biblical truth until a particular sin shows up in their life or in their own family/close friends...then they bend so they can stay in the good graces of their family...this is a HUGE mistake. Hope he sees the error and repents of his attitude
Who are you to judge him? You don't know the full story.
Look to yourself and let AB livewith his own decisions, whatever they may be.
Sorry A B YOUR JUST 100% WRONG , But we still love you ,!
This is soooooo sad😢. And so many follwers of him refuse to see the erro of his ways. This is what happens when they follow a man and not Jesus.
Absolutely
Actually I followed him for a long time and I definitely disagree with him on that.
Actually you could also use that same logic to use for those here who follow Justin Peters and Dan Phillips :)
I may listen to some pastors or teachers but it is GOD only whom I follow.e@@Napartaq
I don't worship teachers and I do support Brother Justin's work in helping rescue souls from false teachers. What Alistair did was a gross error and is trying to compromise with the world. Alistair brought shame upon The Body of Christ. Alistair's previous comments on homosexual sin means nothing now. It's arrogant to think that we save souls that are the work of God and the Holy Spirit. Watching 2 people affirm their path to hell while giving them a gift is wrong. Judgement starts at the church GOD is Not mocked.
1 John 2:15-29 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
Such a sad state of affairs. Even the best of leaders are not beyond accountability.😢
Ya! Amen
Pastor Begg, I am so grateful that this 'firestorm" over the Christian grandmother happened, for MY sake. I have been listening to your fantastic teaching about compassion, and how to love the un-lovely, and it has been a HUGE help to me in my Christian walk....I watched the hysteria unfold in an evangelical church here in America which did indeed look very much like the prodigal older brother with no understanding of grace and saw an explanation of why so many in this culture dismiss the church as 'haters'. God Bless you, mighty man of faith, and servant of the Most High. My walk toward heaven is a little straighter today because of your teaching, and I say that with no intention of changing my basic understanding of the reformed faith. I have, however, been reminded that I hold my nose and walk past a fellow-sinner without telling them where to find the living water.....at my own peril.
Beautiful discussion, I appreciate the honesty and the kindness shown here. I pray that Begg will see his error and repent from making a foolish comment and that he will hear the correction from wonderful brothers like you two.
When Begg said that those saying it's wrong all the time are hiding their own SS lust ... I would have loved him to back that up with Scripture, because that was *the world's* argument. :-(
Luke 6:27-36 NKJV “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who asks of you.
I believe he was alluding to to the way the Pharisees who would criticize others and refuse to even be in the same space as ‘sinners’ but were themselves beset by all manner of sins. He was just comparing his critics to that.
While that may have been okay in other ways, in this case it’s very invalid I think.
I don't think it's the world's argument - I think it's demonstrably the case, and in terms of Biblical precident, I would say it's plausibly the sort of situation one would have with the Pharisees which Jesus rebukes so harshly right through Matthew 23.
Matt 23 is an incredibly important chapter - Jesus goes in HARD on the Pharisees for a whole chapter - there's nothing else like it where he scorches with criticism quite like it in scripture - and the whole basis of it is legalism, and keeping the letter of the law while being without love or mercy.
and i suppose that no one can speak against ANY type of immorality....because they are secretly wanting to engage in particular immoralities.....it doesnt make sense at all. and i agree...it was desperate.
What slander you're all okay with. I mean, I can't listen to Voddie anymore, because of the way he speaks of it in such harsh terms, however to say Voddie does so because he harbours a secret inclination himself ... SLANDER.
Jude, Peter, James and John must have been hiding *wicked* sins, to have written their books.
“Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
Nothing is covered up
... that will not be revealed,
... or hidden that will not be known.
Therefore whatever you have said in the dark
... shall be heard in the light,
... and what you have whispered in private rooms
... shall be proclaimed on the housetops."
[Luke 12]
Who is the Pharisee?
@@carly-0-7A somber reminder to self: me ...
Sobering to read the Word of God. The pharisee is declared by God. I am content to know that God knows so that whoever declares whatever have only to answer to God. And not to a person like a pharisee seeking men's approval.
If anything, good has come from this debacle it is this.
It has sharpened the mind and allowed people to think through from a biblical perspective the situation that surrounds the discussion.
An excellent video. Thank you.
When a person attends any wedding, they are not just a spectator but a WITNESS to the marriage, giving their full agreement to the marriage if they don't respond when asked "If anyone has any reason that this couple should not be married, speak now or forever hold their peace".
This is actually the best argument I’ve seen for why ABs advice was in error.
@@liliz5792 And just because the minister doesn't ask the question, you're still functioning as a witness. The wedding is the making of the marriage covenant. Covenants require the two parties to bind themselves by agreement. Covenants require witnesses who can testify both parties ascented to the covenant. And the "till death do you part" echoes the self-maledictory oath that is part of biblical covenants.
Modern weddings (especially in Hollywood) are a sham.
Agreed. I’ve commented similarly in other videos. You cannot attend a wedding as a spectator. You are a participant. One’s attendance IS their support.
YES!
Thank you pastor Dan. Your response is absolutely Biblical. This needed to be said.
Were praying for you Alistair
Specifically for WHAT?
@@diasporan4159 uh, because we love him? ...and he is walking a slippery slope of unbiblical witness to the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman as God has ordained it and not man??... And because he will be held to a much higher degree before God as a leader and a pastor and I don't want him to slip into a downward spiral of sin that can so easily beset those who shepherd a flock??....and because we love him????
...and because he has been one of my favorite guys to listen to and this is painful to see and I have much hope for God doing his internal work within him as he exposes him and causes Alistair to work out his salvation with great fear and trembling upon an open stage???
@@jody2873 I get it. I liked him too.. But my question was WHAT should we ask God for him, not WHY. Sorry if I was not clear on that.
@@jody2873he was never for homosexuality. He's against the sin not the sinner. A homosexual does not even know he/she is committing ongoing sin.. They are a slave to that thought process and emotion. Gospel and the Holy Spirit changes them.. Not us condemning them constantly. We are sinners too so how can we judge someone else to be of sin.
He did say at least some part of his own staff has told him he was wrong, so I think he has gotten at least a little good counsel, but he definitely responded defensively, and, wow, did he make an even bigger mess of this.
Thank you for using Scripture rightly to explain & defend your position. And also for guarding your heart, making sure that your motives are pure.
What’s concerning is that none of the elders at Parkside, not one, came out against this. There’s something g wrong with this picture.
Actually, if you listened to Alistair's full sermon, he admits that some of his fellow pastors do disagree with his advice. I feel like most of those on this comment chain did not actually listen to Alistair's full sermon on this.
No one is perfect, but he should know better. I do. I am not a minister, head of a church or scholar of the Bible. Yet having studied the Bible, you know what is right and wrong when you hear it or at least you should. He is just falling in lock step like so many others when it comes to the lgbq+t. They just do not want to acknowledge sin is sin and want to be their own Gods.
If you listened to the sermon in its entirety, he goes to great lengths to reaffirm his belief that it's SIN. He preached to a uni audience that walked out on him for saying so. Please please find an example where his fundamental beliefs have changed. There aren't any.
Sheer nonsense. He's got years and years of material calling out same sex relationships. But hey, that would require you actually listening to something he's actually said to know that
What Alistair said in the past means nothing now. He is now the poster boy for the homosexual community who can claim that Christian people should just accept it, because look your pastor says you should go in love and bring a gift for 2 people bound for hell.
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Deuteronomy 11:1, 16-22 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.
Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;
And then the LORD'S wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you.
Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:
That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.
For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;
Once you compromise the gospel you will misuse the gospel to justify your error, which is what Alistair Begg did with the prodigal son. There’s more to this situation than what has been revealed.
Agreed his church condones his beliefs as this is his idea of pastoral ministry
You’re exactly right when you say there’s more here than meets the eye.
Pride goes before a fall and erosion happens over years.
He is not talking about the prodigal; he's talking about the elder brother. The Pharisees realized that He was talking about them (and got angry with him). Why can't you realize that he's talking about the elder brother?
@@mrs.t7351 he is gaslighting anyone who opposes his position as “the angry older brother who doesn’t want the grandma to go to the wedding” absolutely a horrid misuse of scripture to fit his narrative
@@mrs.t7351His use of the other brother is curious at best. That is Scriptural gymnastics
I just want to say that I’m so thankful for your ministry Justin Peters. You and your guest made so many excellent points that are important for Christians when it comes to discernment.
Thank you for your comments on this very sad situation. I have listened to Alasdair Begg sermons from the UK, and I was and am so shocked by this seemingly prideful stance and hurtful comments toward brothers who have disagreed with his advice.
Living in the UK has been difficult for me as it is a very secular culture. I am a South African and miss my church family so much.
But there are sound churches here too and follow so called fundamental Christianity. There is one truth, Jesus said" I am the truth" we need to be aware of the Devil and his tactics, "Did God really say that".
Thank you for your discussion. We need to encourage one another, I appreciate this discussion.
God bless you.
I'm wondering, from many of these comments, if most of you even listened to Pastor Begg's sermon. People! None of his beliefs about LBG** have changed. The title of the sermon was so masterful. It frames the "controversy" perfectly. His tone was loving and measured. He didn't "defend" his opinion. Instead, he gently used Scripture to explain his reasoning. (Like Jesus did to his critics...turn to a parable. Some will understand; the rest will continue to accuse.) He could have easily said that his critics were like the Pharisees, but he didn't. I was ready for him to use I Cor 8:13 to gently turn the tables and say these "Christian" critics were the "weaker brother." No, he simply states his case. I admire him for that. I liked, as part of his advice, that grandma should give a Bible as a gift. I wish we knew how it all turned out! Put two believers together and it won't take long for them find something upon which to disagree (presidential candidates, pro-life/pro-choice, political party affiliations, pre-/post-/a-millennials, etc. ad nauseam) Here's another sad case of where non-believers watch "woke" believers going on another rampage. Grandma shows compassion while the rest condemn. P.S. By the way, notice that there is no "Alistair Beggs Ministry." He's humble. Didn't know much about the man before, but now I'm going to follow his sermon series.
You’ll be blessed you started following him, he’s a wonderful teacher.
@@Raya-ir4tm I can't be sure, but I would guess you haven't listened to the sermon if this is what you think was said. I've listened to it twice, and he didn't say neither of those things.
I have listened to Alistair Begg for years and heard him in person too. He has been a wonderful Bible teacher up till now, but he has made a bad mistake in this instance. The Bible passages he used were all mis-applied by him and more or less teach the opposite of what he was trying to say. This is very sad and we do not know what will be the final outcome. He needs prayer, his family and church too.
The issue at the centre of the discussion is about the advice he gave .
I don't know how much more hearing about this I can take. This is the 5th or 6th video on it. It needs to be done, I'm not disagreeing with that. I just can't take it anymore. I watched a portion of his response where he said he will not repent and doesn't need to repent. It was horrifying. I tried to watch more of it, but I just can't. I don't even know what the Prodigal Son parable has to do with this situation. The main focus of the parable is repentance. There was no repentance from this trans person. And there's no repentance from him. So... what's the point of using this passage?!
What's most horrifying is seeing all the professing Christians actually defending his original advice. That has left me stunned. And sick. The church of Jesus Christ is supporting "trans" "weddings" now? Seriously?!
You are so correct
There's a difference between the professing 'church' and the Biblical Church.
@Yesica1993. You are absolutely right. What is even more upsetting than Alistair Begg’s actual advice is the way professing Christians are going down like nine pins on this issue and supporting him. Surely a sign of the great falling away.
"Those who do "love the truth" (2 Thessalonians 2:10)
are they in whom a divine work of grace has been
wrought. They have something more than a clear,
intellectual understanding of the Scripture: it is the
food of their souls, the joy of their hearts (Jeremiah
15:16). They love the truth, and because they do so,
they hate error and shun it as deadly poison. They are
jealous for the glory of the Author of the Word, and
will not sit under a minister whose teaching dishonors
Him; they will not listen to preaching which exalts man
into the place of supremacy, so that he is the decider
of his own destiny."
Arthur Pink, 1886-1952 "Experimental Salvation"
"...They did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 2Thessalonians 2:10
I also was shocked by his interpretation of the passage regarding the prodigal son. I didn’t have to hear it from these respected pastors, to be able to see that this was not a correct interpretation. I understand how you feel about all of the attention being paid to this, I think it’s just so shocking coming from this man, who so many of us have loved and respected. Because he is so prominent, I guess it’s worthy of those trying to counteract what Pastor Begg has said, and recommended. I pray you find a church that meets your spiritual needs, don’t give up!🙏
Justin thank you for your help and updates on this topic. thank you and other brothers in the Lord.🙏🙏🙏
What a horrible thing to raise suspicion and cast doubt on the pastors who will not compromise on the truth. I am so shocked by Pastor Begg’s recent comments.
Thank you for standing for the truth.
I was really taken aback when I saw the sermon, too. I'm grateful for this video. Great points made and a great reference for future. I'm just really sad about the whole thing.
Alistair Begg's advice to the grandmother was terrible.
The sermon was even worse; he misused the prodigal story totally.
very sad
marcus
What do you think about the advise John MacArthur gave that it’s ok for a Christian to bake a specific cake for a gay wedding? Is it not the same thing?
@@liberatingtruths777 , providing goods and services under current laws makes the case a mute point.
If you are baking cakes for a living and ANYONE wants you to bake a cake (for any purpose) and you refuse because you don't agree with their life-style (whatever that is) then you are discriminating and will be in trouble with the law. If you can't handle that, don't bake cakes for public consumption.
In other words, baking the cake is your business, not a statement of agreement with the clients belief system.
I'm baking you a cake; what you do with it is your business alone.
This is quite different from attending a ceremony (which does imply consent).
A Christian must not knowingly attend a pagan ceremony (for any reason) because that attendance mocks God, and also implies consent.
They are two completely different things entirely. Case law shows this, as well as common sense.
marcus
Marcus, I'm guessing you thought the Prodigal Son story was just about the wayward son. Mr Begg used the story as it was intended -- focusing on the Pharisees (religious conservatives) who refuse to forgive and show compassion. Instead, they double-down on their criticism. Focus on who Jesus is talking about and who the listener knows is the target of the parable.
@@liberatingtruths777this is more of a conscience issue. Baking a cake is not celebrating a union. It’s performing a service. You’d have to not bake cakes(or clean houses, or do accounting, or provide any service) for pretty much anyone who’s not a Believer. On the other hand; it becomes more complicated when writing on cakes. What are they asking to be written in the cake? Is it sinful ..and so on.
@@markh.harris9271Let me interpolate that the gay wedding cake is required to be decorated with dildos. Does that change your mind?
The Colorado baker offered the gay couple any standard cake but would not use his talents to meet their specific demands. What you seem to think the law requires is slavery, which is not true.
Let us all pray for alistair begg. Only God judges and knows the man’s heart.
We are to judge the fruit.
We are not able to judge the heart or someone’s salvation
There's a fine balance between being in the world and not condoning the world. I think he made an honest mistake and now he's doubling down out of pride
So you know enough to judge.
@@annodomini7250 Stupid question. Yes, he knows enough SMH! seriously your question shows you are part of the apostatizing problem.
@@IamGreatsword I am an apostate, thank you most wise Judge, what is it like sitting upon God's throne? I truly envy your all knowing.
@@annodomini7250 We as (not necessarily you as of yet) Members of the Body of Christ look at the fruit and make Judgments. Read Matthew 7 fully and in context, rightly dividing it and get back to me. Love your facetious attitude though.
Yeah. I think so, too. He’s being very Scottish right now. Sigh.
May our Lord and Savior be the one who places a conviction not to just Alistair Begg, but his congregation also. Which is why prayer is to be consistent for those going astray from scripture.
I completely support the Biblical wisdom and teaching of Alastair Begg. He is a man of prayer, faith, care for others. I will continue to listen to him with great respect. Trusting this to be over soon.
Even me, a lowly lifelong student of the Bible can see through his use of the Prodigal Son parable!
The Prodigal Son REPENTED and CAME BACK to the Father's House...I don't see Alistair Begg doing that😮
@@caroleimani9754I believe that is what she is implying.
@@caroleimani9754 The prodigal son did not repent. He returned home because he thought he would be better off as a hired hand there when all the money was spent. His motivation was his self interest.
And the Father meets him, still a long way off and embraces him *before he even speaks*.
Moreover, there are two lost sons in this parable - the other son who remains at home is given half his father's wealth at the beginning, yet denies this later saying that his father has given him nothing. This is a lie. The older son is in rebellion.
And yet, still the father's response to the older son is to PLEAD with him to join the feast...
I find his butchering of this parable almost as bad as his original comment about the wedding. He seems to be digging a deeper hole.
If you're focusing on the son in the parable, you've misunderstood the point of the parable. The end of it is not at the party; it's the reaction of the eldest son. The father shows compassion; it's the self-righteous religious conservative who shows condemnation. I'm guessing the Pharisees never got the point either.
Jesus warns us of wolves in sheep’s clothing. Pride and a haughty spirit comes before a downfall.
As believer's it's essential that we pray for these Bible teachers. That they repent,and confess the errors!
I do pray for Alistair🙏
Thank you Justin for covering this issue.
thanks Justin for another talk on this very sad issue - it was very humble, loving and persuasive - our prayer is for AB to seriously think thru this very important matter - may God grant him the courage to recant and repent for the sole glory of God and for the sake of the church and the for world to know the truth
THANK YOU Brother Justin for Christian love by your guiding truth and Gospel light about this sad situation With Alistair Beg! I pray he will find his way and maybe the Lord can use this situation to bring more of the lost to the Truth of Jesus and the Gospel!
Most of the time his right but on the other hand a small hole sinks a big ship.
I love Dr Begg and I remember he said in a sermon in the mid 80’s, I think that the Church would face 2 main attacks from both the secular world but also within the church:
1) Who is Jesus?
2) Sexuality.
He turned out to be right but given his consistency with regards to biblical marriage and sexuality for over 40 years, I hope this small hole gets fixed quickly.
I will wait until the dust settles a bit and see if he repents or gets deeper entrenched into this position before deciding whether to continue listening to him. I have most of his earlier material which is wonderful, so I will always have that.
God Bless ❤
1 cor 13 :4-8a love does not rejoice in unrighteousness period. Very concerning when a minister is confronted and he doubles down . Very concerning 😢
Out of all the rebukes about AB horrible unbiblical advice he gave the grandmother, this interview is by far the best. It hits all the bible and ethical issues many of the others miss.
So well done. Thank you both, Brothers.
Thank you, Justin, for covering this as you have. There are many others who have exposed this, and as sad as it is, we need to move on. Begg has been warned and rebuked over his sinful and harmful comments, yet he fails to hold fast to the word of God. It's in God's hands now as to whether or not Begg will repent and recant; we as a body of Christ can do no more here and we need to continue to pray for Begg. God bless you, Justin!
The argument of Jesus eating with sinners? If you read Matthew 9:9-11 you will read that Jesus went and called to Matthew to follow him. Then it says that many tax collectors and sinners came and reclined at the table. What people tend to think is, Jesus went to the sinners and tax collector and hung out with them. That is not the case. The same happens in Luke 15, where the tax collectors and sinners were drawing near to Jesus. Again, the sinners and tax collectors followed Jesus. He was telling them truth, and ministering to them, not compromising and conforming to their life styles.
As Christian’s we should never conform to the world, Romans 12:2 tells us not to be conformed to the world but be transformed by the renewal of our minds.
But he did sit and eat and drink with them which seems to be an inconvenient truth for many.
You have exegeted scriptures beautifully, thank you for your comment.
@@annodomini7250
Yes, and then they repented and became believers. Attending a ‘gay wedding’ is affirming the people in their sin who are unrepentant.
@@petercollins7848 no it does not if both parties know the other's position but out of love attending the wedding affirms nothing but the Christians' love for their relative. A little less judgment and more compassion.
Alistair Begg more or less saying, that he's right & God's wrong, I tell u now, Alistair Begg is 100% wrong & God is 100% right & true.
Absolutely disagree you should be ashamed noting in this video reveals that he is in biblical error !! Stop staying on your echo chamber and your friend has said nothing biblical that refutes Beggs Defense , Begg does not support gay marriage or LGBQT marriages you guys are sick and ridiculous nothing here based in scripture or the life of Jesus . He is still faithful and still standing on Biblical principles and integrity !! Shame on you both . The bible definitely says not to point out a brother fault public ally on the internet !! I pray both you repent for helping to destroy a man of God !!!
I did a poll to get my friends to agree with me really . We all know that this is all about click bait and getting more views and money !!
Both of you men have just helped in a hit job on the public internet and he did not say he doesn’t think of himself as separate from those he serves . The arrogance of these two men who do not know Allister Begg !! Beware gentleman Gid will not let this kind of you tube hit job go unpunished!!
Allister never said or did anything you accuse him of I do not agree with that Allister is saying what you are saying . You’re both so horrible to treat Allister as you are !! You should go to him in private not on you tube wow I would never go to your church
You’re making up future consequences that you don’t know about what is going to happen !!
Paul wrote many letters addressing the churches for false doctrine and believes that creeps in and we r just addressing what has crept in to allistair
Amazing wisdom coming from this speaker. Totally right-on!
My first inclination is prayer, for God's mercy, grace, love to be poured over this situation, yet I cant help but wonder, "What is God up to in all of this?" Surely whatever it is I trust that we all shall sing praise of His glory that will one day, be revealed in Christ Jesus. This gives me great peace.
Sex,idolatry,and pride are probably the most common sins of man, therefore, talked about the most. So I imagine, one would want to "talk loudly about" about these sins to warn people and to even get people to realize they are sinning.Which is why one wouldn't want to give a gift to someone in their family for a religious ceremony where it is being mocked.
I 12:48 agree with you Justin. It is wrong to condone that behavior.
Thank you Justin for this heartfelt update.
I believe the church needs to be both aware, and beware of what is being taught in the church today.
I'm 66 and had a friend for years that is a homosexual. We met as young teens, he was not a homosexual then but became on in collage. I have told him for years that he is living in sin, and can not go to heaven unless he changes his ways and repents. He is living with a man as his husband, they are not married. I would never go to his wedding if invited. Because I feel it's supporting his sinful way of life. So no I do not agree with this pastor. Even if this were my child I would not attend this kind of wedding.
I feel like you missed the gospel. Your telling him he has to give up his “identity” essentially. His not hearing you.
The gospel is that Christ loved us so much he died for us and his loving kindness draws us to repentance. It’s an act of the spirit not a will of man
Nope it's you who is wrong. This has nothing to do with identify. He in fact is living in sin, this is about sin and repenting of it. And he knows that .
@@carly-0-7 Uh? really? You do err not knowing the scriptures and have no clue what the Gospel is. Jesus said to deny yourself as in who you are and to sacrifice yourself, obey him and follow him. Take up the cross is denial of who you are/were. If you are drawn by the Father and given to the Son you will become a new creation and will be not comformed to this world (as ""were"" some of you) You are in complete error repent and surrender to God all your bad reasoning.
I think he’s been watching Andy Stanley. I totally agree, his using the prodigal son as a comparison makes no sense.
Makes me wonder, because Alistair has many grandchildren and loves them DEARLY and mentions them on occasion.
The dominos are only just now starting to fall, and thanks be to God that He exposed this publically as He did and will continue to do so for Alistair and his soul.
Im very courious to see how God will handle him in this. May take awhile, but i have a lot of hope and there's a lot of people praying for him and will be ample cleanup for sure.
Thanks Justin and other guy 👍
Living in Western society, for any Christian parent of children and young adults, is a threat given the strong top down push of this ideaology and the status that it has. More and more Christians will be dealing with this. And I cannot begin to fathom the level of anguish and pain that it will produce. Many Christians will be shaken and that is why it is so important for us to strengthen our faith and trust in God. Really difficult days await.
Edit - I am sorry for only saying Christian parents. I should have written all parents.
Having been around churches for 30yrs, I would honestly NOT be surprised if it came out that one (or more) of those grandkids has announced they are gay/trans/nonbinary/genderfluid/whatever, or he is suspicious that they're going to, and he's already decided he knows what "love" requires. It would not be the first time I've watched that happen. Which is why I think Jesus warned us that we must "hate" our family members (next to Him), because the temptation is always to excuse the sin of those we love and presume upon God's mercy as a cover. :(
@@cynthiacarter9055ya, I was trying not to imply that, but I wonder as well and sure wouldn't surprise me. This is just so out of his norm, it makes me think it would have to come from a family member probably to cause such a drastic change?¿. .. Though I could be TOTALLY wrong- just a guess
@@jody2873 I understand and agree. It's not like ministers are the only ones who change views based on family, either. Family bonds are hard to resist even when necessary. 😪
@@cynthiacarter9055sad, but absolutely true. And the pressure must be so multiplied as they are a target of the enemy. But the biggest fear for him is the higher level of accountability he will be held to before God as this will easily domino if there is no repentance. I'm praying for him and his soul and the likely domino in the making. I love this guy- one of my favorites. Was anyway.
I’m not going to comment on Alistair Begg’s advice or response on this issue, but will just say that as a Bible believing Christian who has had to walk down this road with family members and make decisions regarding how to best interact with people I love who have taken similar paths - there are alot of people sitting on the sidelines giving advice, and saying what they would or wouldn’t do with utmost confidence who are far removed from this actual issue and aren’t actually having to live this out day to day.
We can be clear on what the Bible teaches, and what we believe and stand firm on that - but it’s easy to throw out verses on You Tube, and throw stones and make bold statements about how you would handle the situation without having to navigate how to best witness to or love family members who are caught up in this messed up world.
Talk is cheap. If you haven’t actually lived this out in your family it could be wise to slow down a bit and try to have a bit of grace for those who are trying to work through it.
Wholeheartedly agree and understand!
@@Raya-ir4tm and it’s not what I said 🤷♂️
Well stated!
Exactly, talk is cheap!
Especially carnal and sensual talk that has nothing to do with biblical truths!
No, your words mean nothing because they’re seeking to *please people* and choose *fear of men,* instead of fear of God and God-pleasing!
All you need to do is quote the WORD OF GOD to prove the truth!
All other talk is *satanic garbage and dung!*
Ephesians 5:11,
2 Corinthians 6:14-18,
Matthew 10:37:
Sooooo, if you chose your family members over God and His commandments, you are not worthy of Jesus❗️
He said, “if you love me you will keep my Commandments”‼️
He did NOT say, “if you love me, you will compromise with sin and sinners and will condone their sin, by celebrating it with them”!!!
End of story, case closed.
So I guess you’ve made your choice! Hopefully, you will have true repentance and change of mind and heart, while you are still breathing…
God’s will be done!
Shalom.
There's so much bad news in the Christian world and the secular. It grieves me to see it, but I know where it leads. It leads to Christ's return. It's just hard to watch everything, and everybody crash and burn around you. The prevalence and increase in evil does NOT surprise me. The speed in which it is becoming accepted and normal is mind-boggling to me. Lord, please don't forget your people. We are few, and we are surrounded by evil on all sides. We know Christ told us, "in this world, you will have tribulation" (what the world does to Christians). We are grateful you tell us we are not appointed to wrath (what God does to the world for what it did to his saints).🙏❤️🙏
Take heart we are not forsaken (to run away from) by Christ. Hold to the faith for we shall see the King!
@@shelbysittig1047 amen🙏❤️🙏
Yes, amen.
John 16:33 ‘I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.’
Much needed clarity and the most helpful discussion I have heard. Let us pray for Alistair.
I agree with him. All this outcry reminds me of when the scribes, and Pharisees criticized Jesus because he was a friend of tax collectors and sinners. He never condoned what they did, but he engaged them in a way to draw them out of darkness and into the light.
He didn't throw them a party and pat them on the back. Its the actual wedding celebration that is the problem
I’m a 78 yr old Christian retired geriatric nurse. Begg has displayed his true self to all outside his church. His congregation’s applause displays the truth about how & what he’s actually pastored them. So that’s a church that I obviously couldn’t attend as his teaching is false in this area & how much more! Shame on this man for misleading his flock. Pray for him & his flock. Thanks so much for your true Christian inspiration. Love in Christ
That's how easy any one of us can fall into sin in a heartbeat ...
... without Christ we haven't a chance
So glad that Alistair stood by his view. I am the mother of two gay sons and one or two grandchildren. I have been so sad about this but know that I must love them and I have attended weddings which is so hard but God is love and he is full of grace for the lost. Christians are harsh. eternity will reveal all. Dorothy zfrench.
@@dorothyfrench2788 God's love draws harsh lines because without them we would delve into anarchy in a heartbeat and break natural and moral law at every turn. We don't get "excused" for sin. Our sin nature put Christ on that cross and you and I drove the nails in with a smirk
judging a mans whole life by one possible mistake...shame on you
@@dorothyfrench2788 I'm sorry, Dorothy, but celebrating sin IS sin. I'll pray for you and your family.
The enemy can fool even the elect… sad and scary. We need to pray for pastors who lead and teach under the name of Christ, remember there is gonna be a great falling away guys😞
No. Jesus said the enemy cannot deceive the elect. Matt 24:24. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders in so much that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive very elect. That means it is impossible. Thank God for his mercy.
No. It says "if possible... would lead elect astray" go read it. It is not possible to lead the elect astray.
Thanks for the video, Justin. The "Love trumps Truth" concept has been a stain on orthodox Christianity for decades. And, because love is a good thing, this problem can fly under the radar for a very long time and not be noticed. At my former church (which I had been at for over 18 years), the lack of truth appeared as a lack of discernment, pietism, a failure to "understand the times", and failure to teach the whole counsel of God. The "love trumps truth" unbalance at my church became exposed during the events of 2019-2020 (social justice, riots, kovidd, masks, vakseens, etc). When confronted about their silence, the leadership of the church saw no issues and basically told me I was being "too divisive" or "too political", as if the Word of God had nothing to say about these matters. I left that church and I'm still looking for another one. Videos like yours help me a lot in the meantime. 🙂
I applaud your courage to speak up. That isn't easy. And truth over love for sure. And often our definition of love is not aligned with love in the Bible or even what love actually is.
Voddie Baucham covered sinful "LOVE" check it out, he is spot on.
Thank you for this conversation. I have been in shock for a week trying to process this. All I can say to myself is come Jesus come.
Brethren, thank you so much for the biblical stand in Alistair's unbiblical counsel, indicating his affirmation of sin that may be stumbling block to many both saved and unsaved. This grieves my heart because I remember when I sat in a conference listening to his teaching at Cedarville University in the late 90s. I think one of the great marks of godliness, maturity, and wisdom is one to be able to humble himself or herself and repent of sin. There is so much joy in true humility and repentance.
One thing I disagree with you is to refuse counseling to someone you don't know. Biblical truth is universal and should not be limited to someone you know or attend to your local church. If one is not part of a local church, counsel the person to have Biblical sound church to attend regularly and counsel the person with any issues in the light of the Bible. There are other situations you cannot provide counseling and in those situations, give a reason you are not able to provide counsel. Maybe there are some details you don't know. What about if the person has a local church but it is a church pastored by Todd white, Joseph Prince, Joe Laughing Osteen, etc. are you going to let them go to these wolves to be devoured? With love in Christ!
Thanks for sharing this update, Justin.
Accountability. The need for a plurality of elders is made clear with this mistake and the digging of this hole.
I read this today in Religious News Service article (Editor’s Note: This story has been updated with news that Begg is no longer speaking at the Shepherds Conference.)
He's listed as a speaker on the Shepherds conference website. As of this morning 2/1/24
I Hope he will not. 🙏🏻
Oh! Thank God, they aren't sellouts to the world. I was concerned now I am still standing with the shepherd's conference leadership. Praise God! I thought I was going to have to mark and avoid them too, if they didn't Wisely drop the Apostatizing Begg. Hope he repents but the irreparable damage is done for him and his church sadly.
I’d want to see him there just for the Q and A.
I just don’t understand all this horrible tearing apart of this godly man by what is supposed to be his brother’s in Christ,you just come across as if you’re enjoying yourselves,I have listened to this man for years and have greatly benefited from his teachings and just feel disgusted at what’s going on,I just pray that God will give him the strength and courage to press on,I for one never at any point thought he gave approval to transgender marriage.
Brother Justin, Thank you for the wisdom and grace you always bring to difficult situations like this. You are a true gift from God to the Body of Christ.
I can't thank you enough both Justin Peters & Dan Phillips for standing on God's Word - THE TRUTH. I'm a young christian trying to get rooted in God's Word. Justin Peters has helped me alot w/ his videos and teaching God's Word in CONTEXT. We are living in the end times and we all need to be held accountable if we are somewhat swaying off the straight & narrow road. I enjoyed the first video that Justin Peters did on this matter and I watched it again which was a good teaching for me too. I will watch this vid again this week sometime. I love the truth in God's Word even when it is extremely hard/tough love. I praise God for you faithful bereans of God. P.S. I want to be a faithful berean for God and my family & friends. I don't want to compromise God's word either. I pray God protects us from deception.
This verses came to mind.
2Tim 4:3-5
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Reading the comments you can easily discern the children of light and the children of Darkness. He that does not hate mother father son or daughter their own life, is not worthy of the kingdom of God
Exactly!!! Amen!!!
Matthew 10:16-22, 26-28, 32-39 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
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@@889Pammov what’s your point?
@@dh1335 We are to Obey GOD only family members not saved will hate us for our testimony. Alistair wants to make friends with the world, and his comments are grave error that no matter what he said about sodomy before means nothing.
Justin, Pastor Begg's position will be more or less the acceptable position for evangelicals if big names like MacArthur and or Piper don't speak to this publicly. It will be a watershed moment and the bar will be lowered. The Gospel will be undermined and many more lost and closer to Hell. This is serious! I'm concerned that more influential pastors and leaders has not come out on this.
This is not a surprise to God nor is it going to keep anyone out of the Kingdom who was supposed to be there. While this news is sad and tragic we need to trust the Lord and He will make things right.
Why does it boil down to them determining what is right or wrong in this. What if they come out on the side of Allistair? Will that then completely undermine ALL their years of speaking and living biblical truth? What about all those people who have come to a TRUE understanding of God's love and Jesus' sacrifice under their teaching, if they come out in favor of Allistair's position? Those saved, will their salvation be meaningless then. What if these pastors don't say anything? Will they be damned if they do, damned if they don't. I am a born again Christian and this whole judgment of a sound biblical teacher/pastor disgusts me. This splitting of hairs disgusts me. This whole thing smacks of pharisetical judgment.
I mean, do you need for the evangelical Pope to speak on this subject? Already, every Christian UA-camr with a discernment ministry and their mama made a video on this.
@@krisrader1711 To answer your question, yes. None of the "good" that they did will be remembered. “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die. (Eze 18:24). And again, we read, "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, My soul shall have no pleasure in him" (Heb 10:38)
It's called apostasy. It is a proof of their reprobation and that they never were of Christ's household. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us" 1 John 2:19
But if you need proof that long years of ministry is no proof of God's acceptance of that person, and that God suffers reprobate people (for a time) to take care of His Church for its upkeep, read Eze 44:10-14
“And the Levites who went far from Me, when Israel went astray, who strayed away from Me after their idols, they shall bear their iniquity. Yet they shall be ministers in My sanctuary, as gatekeepers of the house and ministers of the house; they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister to them. Because they ministered to them before their idols and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity, therefore I have raised My hand in an oath against them,” says the Lord God, “that they shall bear their iniquity. And they shall not come near Me to minister to Me as priest, nor come near any of My holy things, nor into the Most Holy Place; but they shall bear their shame and their abominations which they have committed. Nevertheless I will make them keep charge of the temple, for all its work, and for all that has to be done in it"
Should I also say, this undiscerning attitude which is so willing to compromise in the name of "love" (not love to God's glory or the purity of the Church in any way) disgusts me. This whole thing smacks of uncircumcised hearts and ears.
Judas was a disciple who proclaimed the gospel, cast out demons, and totally fell as he was never saved. As to your statement about splitting hairs, the devil splits hairs so we need to be careful with our handling of God's Word. This is all serious. An error like this can cause people to lack trust in the teacher or cause believers to ascribe to God's Word with evil and evil outcomes. That is the devil's work and Mr. Begg tragically now is being used as an instrument of evil. We need to pray for Mr. Begg and other pastors and church leaders daily. The big issue is if Mr. Begg refuses to see his error and refuses to repent. That’s where church discipline comes in as stated by Jesus and Paul in the NT. I think of the scripture the song of David when Israel was slain by the philistines with Saul and Jonathan. "How the mighty have fallen".
Justin, I think this is a huge part of your ministry:
17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[a] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.
Ezekiel 3:17-18
I really appreciate this respectful and balanced discussion. I especially appreciated what was said in the beginning, that this is a rare blemish on an otherwise largely doctrinally sound ministry. We should continue praying for him ❤
Thanks brothers. Yes this has been helpful. It broke my heart when I first heard of this situation and I can only pray that Alistair comes to his senses and repents and be restored.
Unfortunately attendance has the appearance of affirmation.
Not to all. There are other ways to make it clear.
And since when do appearances dictate what we do? It doesn't mean it should not be taken into account.
@@robbieelliot9491 You are wrong and do err not knowing the scriptures.
@@IamGreatsword At the moment I am seeing people worried about eating food sacrificed to idols.
This is tender for us. My husband is a public servant for a democratic city. The city hosts a pride and jr pride parade each July. July of 23, the city pulled on duty personnel to participate in the parades...
This is so much more than a wedding!
Danya
please God rather than appease man
I would seek a religious exemption.
I used to work as a waitress at a hotel near Washington DC. I was willing to work nearly every day, except Sunday. I asked for it off to keep the sabbath. A waiter who was Muslim complained and said it wasn't fair that I got off work on Sundays. My mgr told me I had to work some Sundays.
After talking to my hisband, he agreed I needed to give notice and find another job.
I was actually able to find a better job with better houra and pay that waiting tables.
I praise God and thank Him everyday. .
Actually, Jesus was asked to dine with Pharisees (real ones, who invited Him) and Jesus confronted them as they were choosing their seats! So He did go to a meal with them, but He didn't sit and talk trash with them or try to blend in. He confronted them. But He was the Son of God and had authority to do such a thing. Thank you both for talking about this. It's got many of us upset. At this time in our culture while many Christians are paying a high price for being Christians, the faithful ones stick to scripture and get persecuted for it. So there is Alistair Begg trying to figure out how to get Christians "out of" persecution and send confusing double messages to the world. I don't think he's lost, but I won't be recommending listening to him to any new Christians! I don't know when his next compromise will be!
I really enjoy pastor Dan’s sermons. Copperfield church is my podcast feed. Pray for his continued health as he is in a challenging season.
Thank you for keeping strong, Justin! I am sad about Alistair not repenting from that. Seeing many fall into their old age and bow down to the world, I feel nauseous. :(
Let's pray for Alistair!