Upgrade to Linux Mint 20 or not?
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Linux Mint 20 upgrade path is here, but should you upgrade? Here are my thoughts on that, the upgrade path, how to do it, and a few snags you might encounter.
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00:00 Introduction
02:59 Upgrade Path Instructions
06:57 Test System Overview
07:56 Start the Upgrade
14:03 Reboot System
15:20 Chromium is Missing
16:19 Test Applications Work
18:01 OOF! Timeshift Fail
21:01 Removing and Restoring Timeshift
22:24 Final Conclusions
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i made the switch, going good so far
I'm typing this post from my Mint 20 desktop. I did a clean install this time around. I've done many upgrades over the years, and they always end up being more work than just biting the bullet, and doing the clean install. The worst upgrade I ever did was 18.3 to 19. What a nightmare that was complete with boot loop after the required purging of the old window manager to install LightDM. I learned my lesson with that one. Incremental upgrades on the same package base are fine, but when going to the next major version I'll never do an upgrade again.
I'm running Mint 18.3 (Cinnamon) right now but I'm planning on installing Mint 20 on a new SSD I plan on installing in this laptop. I think I'll try MATE this time. :) Thanks for posting!
For me, the upgrade from Linux Mint Mate 19.3 to 20 was necessary, because Mate has a new compositor that makes my really old and unsupported graphics card work way better than with other compositors, and I love Linux Mint Mate
LOL, I have the reverse problem. My graphics card is brand new and AMD quit supporting the oldest OpenGL. :) Fortunately you can switch the backend to a later version of OpenGL and some other API and it works fine again.
I have two desktops and I upgraded both a few days apart and I have not had any problems, so far. **knock on wood** Primarily because of Warpinator...I'm still kind of a newbie to Linux and the ability to transfer files without using a jump drive or cloud storage makes my world a lot easier. Thanks Tom for another great video.
Simply put, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. If it's working, don't break it.
Yep... I learned that the hard way (went from 19.1 to 19.3 to 20.04 and then back using TimeShift... killed it. Then reinstalled.)
Us distro hoppers should listen to the introduction and conclusion to this video a few times!
I upgraded my MacBookPro from 19.3 to 20 - no problems! I have Home on a separate partition so i used a live USB to start Linux Mint 20, format the root partition and installed without touching Home. I had a backup of my installed software with Backup Tool so i easily reinstalled all my software...
The laptop hardware that was having problems with LM20 has been fixed. I have not come across any other problems except on my daily driver, Snapd had disabled my apt package manager and I was unable to repair/replace it and had to do a full install. Mint 20 is running fast and stable, zero problems or bugs.
Go sudo sudo apt purge snapd
I hope the next version of LMDE takes notes and ideas from MX Linux.
@Raphael Silverstone LMDE is pretty good, except for cinnamon, I use mate
Great and timely video. I have used LM 18.3 and 19.3. Both ran satisfactorily. I tried LM20 and the simple scan did not work. I returned to 19.3 and everything worked again. So for both my laptop and desktop, I run 19.3. I needed a stable easy to use system. LM20 is still a work in progress and it has tools that I already have when I use PuppyLinux. I was given the option to upgrade but I decided against it.
I came to the same conclusion that you have. Keep up the good work. I will also have a look at the Bible Time application.
I upgraded My Desktop, but the Laptop hooked to my TV, it can run 19.3 until then. To upgrade, I tried that way, but it failed, so I got the ISO for 20 and just burned it to a USB Thumb Drive, restarted my computer (after disconnecting a few Hard drives) and simply wiped out 19.3 and installed 20. I am on that now.
We have 2 desktops Mint 19.3 and 19.1 and a laptop on 19.3 - no plans to upgrade yet. If I do, it'll be via a clean install rather than the upgrade path. (After backing up the Home partition naturally).
Upgraded one old Dell Optiplex so far. Seems to work fine. Honestly think it would've taken less time to backup and install fresh though. As for changes, nothing to write home about. Guess most of the advancements are under the hood this time around.
Update: Upgraded second machine (same model). Again works fine BUT I've noticed that installing Google chrome via .Deb direct from Google doesn't add a PPA. How will it auto update?
Same here. Optiplex 990
Running on a Dell laptop and same here can’t notice much of a difference
Yes, I definitely would recommend just doing a fresh install. You don't even have to backup. Just copy everything relevant from your home-folder and it should be fine. Maybe you want to copy a few things from a folder under /usr/share too, that is optional. Other than that, make a script to install al the software which you use, that way after a clean install you only have to enter one command to get all the programs installed again.
This past weekend I upgraded my production machine to Linux Mint 20 and it had so many issues that I decided to try out a new distro. I installed Manjaro 20 XFCE and it ran like a charm. I'll roll with this until the Linux Mint team can sort the issue with version 20. I've used Mint since 17 and this was the first time that a new release gave me problems. Loving Manjaro though.
I also run Manjaro on a couple of my computers.I have 6 computers i build them as a hobby then i find a local place or person and i give it to them if they want it.Its my was of passing it on helping others.
Manjaro is really unstable, I recommend arcolinux, it does not break as often, although all Arch distros eventually break and you need to read the Arch wiki
Nope I won't ... I use Peppermint OS. Yes it's less complete then Mint ... but less bug, less ressources taken by the OS. Peppermint is a beast with a candy flavor. If you are interested in Mint, I really suggest you to watch a video about peppermint OS first ... if you wanna install Linux Mint after, go ahead ... but I think lot of people will prefer to choose Peppermint. My old afterglow xbox360 driver wasn't working in Mint but works perfectly with Peppermint. I just install few open source software and voilà ... Peppermint is perfect !!!
I've been using LM19.3 since release date. I've upgraded to LM20 from instructions, it broke some of my packages, but I can manage to fix them myself. Unless you know what you are doing, I don't recommend upgrading if you are comfortable with version 19.3.
I'm devouring all the content of your channel, cant wait for the next videos
Mint 20 works great on my new computer that I build 2 weeks ago. On my previous computer that I installed Mint 19.3 it had some issues, especially with Firefox, which is my main browser.
Very helpful! Thanks a ton!
NO thanks, I'll stick with Manjaro Mate, updates/upgrades are usually much easier.
I've had some issues with an application called Cisco packet tracer which I use for university , on their page they have a .deb file that in LM 19.3 worked out of the box with the detail that you had to run it from the terminal (for some reason the icon on the menu didn't work) but if you try to install it on LM 20 there's an error with the dependencies that I haven't figure out how to fix it but aside from that everything works fine
Thanks for the interesting review of the process. I distro hop far too much & should probably stick to using Xubuntu 16.04, or Linux Mint 18.3 which is supported with updates until April next year. Both of those distros work perfectly on my older desktop.
I have other computers/SSD's to play on. So far I had problems getting XnViewMP working. Changing the style in QT5 fixed that.
Good video clip! I have several different older Laptops. My main Laptop is running Windows 10, with Lubuntu in the VirtualBox. The other Laptops and PC most have Linux as the Host. I am currently using ZorinOS, Lubuntu, Mint, and Lite. Linux has great packages, and I like the versions that are based on Ubuntu. A huge factor for me, and you did mention it, is the Architecture 64 Bit requirement. I have three other laptops that can only have 4 GB Max, and is 32 Bit Architecture, so I am unable even to run Mint 20. I actually have two laptops with x64 Duo Core, that could run Mint 20, yet I prefer a more robust lighter version, 18.04, which is set to be unsupported 04/2023. What is happening is that Linux was always thought of as a good alternative on older hardware, and by forcing a 64 Bit Architecture requirement is starting to cut-off computers that are older than around 2005. All good stuff! The reason I keep Windows is due to my older Windows programs, that I actually install in the VirtualBox, usually using Windows XP. I also use the Dual Boot feature. Have not tried to put Windows, MAC, and Linux all on the same computer, yet I do not see a problem with that.
I have Zorin running on this computer it eats ram but this computer has 64 gigs so no problem their Zorin does run well i like it.
If you ever want something different that does not eat RAM so much, then look into Manjaro Mate, it's rolling release based on arch, but they test a bit more before pushing out updates.
I faced a problem with hplip during the upgrade to Mint Mate 20. Remove hplip, upgrade then reinstall hplip.
I generally follow the process of installing the latest machine on new configs and then six months or so later I will look at upgrading machines that have earlier versions. This gives developers time to catch show stoppers and fix them and correct minor issues as well. Since most of my systems are home level production systems rather then business level production systems using primarily older hardware (5 - 15 years older) upgrading is not a high risk move. Most of my data is kept on a couple of NAS units so this also removes risk.
I would wait on 20, the upgrade went thru but it messed up a lot of settings, links. Ended up reverting back to 19.3 (Fresh install due to the issues) and will wait till 20 is more vetted and has more compatibility.
Did the upgrade to Linux Mint 20 on a ThinkPad T480. The upgrade took a long time to complete (about 45 minutes), which is ridiculous considering that the ThinkPad is using a Samsung 860 SATA SSD. A fresh install of Linux Mint 20 would be much quicker at about 12 minutes. Noticed after the upgrade that the shutdown time is cut in half, and the LibreOffice programs start significantly quicker (about 60% faster). Biggest downside is that idle RAM usage increased by 300 MB (from 1.3 GB to 1.6 GB).
Hi - I know this video has been up for a while, but as I finally was curious as to what you had to say about the 20 upgrade I decided to watch. I am in full agreement with you the latest and greatest isn't always that great and to quote an old saying "If it's not broke-Don't fix it!" . Now that being said - I do like to use newer software when it is available and I've been with the Linux Mint builds since version 15. You did mention something that has been kind of a new pet peeve with the Linux Mint teams efforts and that's in order to put out the very best OS that's user friendly to especially those newbies coming over from the MS dark-side stick with what works. My peeve is this: WHY in the world would they stop adding the very simple upgrade system that worked so well in previous version. especially for a newbie! I mean COME ON- not everyone who jumps onboard to Linux Mint is going to be a Terminal Wizard! Soooo- Why not keep that method of simply using the upgrade manager to upgrade to a newer version - that is why it's called an UPGRADE MANAGER!
Upgrade did not work as it gave me errors, Docky not installable on Linuxmibt 20
I had to switch to linux mint 20, since in the previous versions bluetooth and wi-fi refused to work. I tried to upgrade the Kernel (even to almost the latest 5.7, which helped only to start bluetooth, not the wi-fi), I even tired the manual from the official HP website - it didn't work. However, I tried first Ubuntu 20.04 - everything worked perfectly fine, and then I was waiting until Linux Mint team will come up with the new release, and now I've installed the xfce version and it is working perfectly fine. However, I have to agree with Tom on this, if everything works perfectly fine, I suggest to wait intil at least 20.1 release will come up and install it. Until then, stick on the version you are working on. Thnx for the video.
the upgrade path had a few programs not working so went for new install, had 1 program not working in 19 but worked on 20 on vm, so thats why i went with 20, after install program still does not work on 20 and no alarm clock so may go back to 19
Up great did not work for me but I'm glad I did a whole new installation as I then learned to install a MKV hypervisor.
Regarding not upgrading a distro I had a very bad experience. I was on Kubuntu 19.04 I think , did not upgraded then and with 20.04 version the OS lost the functionality to upgrade because the support for that version was dropped. Now the OS was not able to update packages nor upgrade at all. I was told it was a bug and none of the fixes I found worked. This is not the first time I had issues with Ubuntu upgrades so that's when I moved to Manjaro. It's not perfect either but at least all fixes have worked so far.
I have old dependencies for installed apps that are not compatible with Linux Mint 20, tried to upgrade on one of my sacrificial machines, no success, so will stick with LM 19.
From personal experience with both 19.3 and 20 I would say wait awhile. Maybe till 20.1 comes out. I've had some crashing issues with 20 that, on the same hardware, don't occur with 19.3. Besides 19.3 is amazing.
Agree 100%, no reason to change now
I'm a casual user and I'm very happy with Linux Mint 20. I use XFCE and the only problem I've seen is that VLC doesn't run properly with it, but that's VLC's problem.
VLC is also not running properly in MATE.
Well presented upgrade tutorial. Thanks Tom.
FYI: You can skip the Timeshift check by creating a fake Timeshift config file by doing this command:
sudo touch /etc/timeshift.json
*WARNING:* The fake Timeshift config file WILL break Timeshift until the config file is removed.
Update: Nevermind you mentioned it in the video itself.
I am running 19.3 with no problems so i am sticking with 19.3.
System Reports bugs me with a GUI upgrade to 20. Is it safe just to click the upgrade button? Them putting out an upgrade guide kinda makes me hesitate, not because I can't use apt, because I wonder if some are having problems and the upgrade might go wrong and I don't want the headache of restoring and having my system down.. As you mentioned, my 18.x -->19.x system has been working great for years so I think I'll wait before upgrading. At least at this point.Thanks for the guide!
I can't upgrade to 20 because I need Chromium for my day job (their VDI won't work on Firefox). When the *_thing_* is over, then I'll upgrade, but I'll keep one backup HDD with 19.3 on it.
You can run Chromium on Mint 20.
Easy enough to remove the Mint political block and get snapd on there so you can run the snap version.
I made the switch from Linux Mint 19.3 to version 20 however, there are too many apps that are no longer available in the repositories for 20.4 that I absolutely need. Rather than spend all the time to search (and maybe not) find via ppas, I reinstalled 19.3. Boo hoo!
Went from 19.3 to 20 and my HP printer wasn't properly recognized. Apparently beginning with Mint 20 they dropped Hplip.
Running Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon which I installed fresh the day it was released on my old Dell Workstation 690, Dell 3010 have two of those I recycled from a company system upgrade. One I use in my shop via Wi-Fi and a Gateway laptop and the other Dell 3010 I just keep as a backup machines. The age of the machines runs for six to twelve years old and all three machines running Mint 20 have no issues, everything works right out of the box. I did have to install Chromium browser via. snap but that was no big deal and it hasn't caused any issues that I have noticed.
Maybe it would best to wait until the upgrade document is finalized too. I upgraded four of my Mint 19.3 computer a week ago and just noticed they added the "Purge PPAs and 3rd party repositories" section after I did my upgrade. On my main work station (dual Xeon) I had a problem upgrading caused by this issue (dependency related). I was able to fix it myself, but it wasn't easy, and having had this step before hand would have been beneficial. So waiting a few weeks after they released these upgrade procedures might have been a wiser move on my part.
Also, on my Lenovo X201 laptop I was using fingerprint-gui. It didn't work after the upgrade and then I saw on the fingerprint-gui site this NOTE: Fingerprint GUI is no longer maintained and is not compatible with Ubuntu 20.04 and newer. And as a natural extension that would be Mint 20 too. I'm using Fprintd now, but it isn't as slick as fingerprint-gui.
This is the upgrade documentation
@@SwitchedtoLinux Yes that is true. They added the PPA notice to the upgrade procedure later. On the first and second day after its release that step was not part of the upgrade documentation.
Wise advice! When a team is winning, don't change anything!
I looked at the upgrade instructions for 19.3 to LM 20 and figured a clean install would work.
Why it couldn’t be an item on the software manager is beyond me.
Are you a Linux developer?
Thanks for this useful video Tom. 👍
I was wondering if I should go for LM20 but I'm now sure I should stay on 19.3 as of now.
My laptop runs on intel T4400 processor, 3, 320 GB RAM, HDD. So I fear it can't take load of new version. Also it's slow & it hangs suddenly.
The current issue of snaod & chromium confusion, I'm convinced that 19.3 is good. Even if I get new machine (please pray I get soon ;-) )I may stick to 19.3.
When I was on 18.3, the upgrade to 19 was painful & I had to opt for fresh install & reinstall all the apps through terminal, ppa etc. Hope this mintupgrade doesn't break.
Thanks again. Good job.
Just upgraded my desktop. Everything fine, no problems at all. It wad only a bit long ( almost 2 hours) but quite easy. Thanks for your videos!
My update failed. Due to my hardware, I somehow eventually managed to install a fresh copy of Mint 20, which was a battle compared to installing Manjaro. I also found that some programs no longer work on Mint 20, so I have to search for workarounds (if any). Overall though, I am enjoying Mint 20 even though I don't notice much difference from Mint 19.
Short answer; Yes.
There's absolutely no practical reason not to... (Excluding rare edge cases).
Just make sure you have backups, for the love of bacon.
I was going to but I decided to wait get a new drive and do a clean install transfer data only
Decent video but it’s also a factor if some might really want some of the features in Mint 20 like desktop scaling which many have had issues trying to add to Mint 19. In general I agree with you that major release updates are best done as clean installs if possible. If you have an SSD even consider secure erasing it first to restore its full performance as well. And consider imaging the system drive to an external drive before you change anything providing much more protection than just Timeshift. MacOS and Windows also have famously ugly problems with major updates. As to those who favor rolling releases you’re trading off having to do major a major update every few years, sorting a few things out, and having a stable system for 23+ months for potential new problems every week. Both have their downsides. Finally, if you can, hold off until Mint 20.1.
I tried doing the upgrade from 19 to 20 and for whatever reason it borked. Thank goodness for timeshift. As much as I hate it for being a harddrive hog, it really does save your behind. So I went back to 19 and I'm just gonna stick with it for a while until I feel like doing a clean install of 20. But it works right now so I'm just gonna stick with it for now.
I just watched a video that shows you how to upgrade from mint 19 to 20 using the terminal...no USB stick, no DVD.
I'm running an e6600 (core duo) processor with 120GB ssd. I have both linux mint 19 and ubuntu on (dual boot). The linux mint was taking a really long time to boot, sometimes didn't boot and ubuntu was quicker and more reliable. No I won't be upgrading to linux mint 20.
I really like Linux mint 20, it’s intuitive from a windows background and everything works, no screen tearing etc but tuxdigital says they “cut too many corners” so to speak and that Kubuntu is best for new Linux users from a windows background but I just want Linux privacy and security and everything to work easily, so in what meaningful way is mint not good enough for a new user to use for small business and general computing? Thanks
I like Bibletime @SwitchedToLinux.
Poked at the upgrade JUST CAUSE and it caused me a headache!!
1. I was impatient (2+hours to install the upgrade)
2. Ran LM 20 for 2 minutes, imported my removed PPAs
*My favorite PPAs had Dependency Errors / LMMS had the update I was waiting for (v1.2.1 from v1.1.3)
*Some other Apps had repo updates
3. Saw concerning glitch.... ran back to my 19.3 snapshot. (it FAILED)
4. The downgrade reboot caused my iBluetooth Card to conk out!
5. I GOT MY 19.3 INSTALL BACK AND RUNNING!!!
Come to think of it, the upgrade was buggy for me and I'll wait for 20.1 or just muster up and do a Clean Install!
In Linux Mint apt automatically runs through sudo btw
I have one laptop still using Linux Mint 18.3 and another laptop upgraded from 19.3 to 20. I am not happy with the new Cinnamon, so I won't upgrade my 18.3.
Hi there.
I had Linux Mint 20 installed about two weeks ago on my HP Laptop, an older i3 core with an upgrade to 16 gbit ddr3 ram and a brandnew ssd 500gb.
I posted this on several Linux Mint related Channels her on YT and Twitter, because i noticed an issue with the wlan-connetion.
I tested this on Ubuntu 20.04 as well and the outcome is pretty much the same, the wlan-connetion gets lost over and over again.
I updated the system to the latest kernel, updated the hardware component drivers, but the problem did not go away.
Finally i installed Linux Manjaro 20 on the same Laptop and the problem was gone.
I'm curious, if there is someone who shares the same experience.
If this is a general problem with Linux Mint 20 on Laptops, this would be a thing needs to be fixed soon.
As much as i like Manjaro, i would prefer to use Linux Mind again.
With this entire snap thing going on - where does that leave the ICE application, that peppermint made. As far as I know ICE uses some chromium stuff and peppermints is based on mint>Ubuntu?
Ice and Snap are completely different. Snap is a different way to package applications, Ice is a web-browser container for websites and webapps
@@SwitchedtoLinux yes, but when you install ICE, it tells you, that it will download some chromium related packages in order for it to work - will it then download the snap version of chromium or is it some separately packaged chromium related packages that ICE uses?
Just put the Timeshift backup on an external backup drive that has plenty of space, then you won't have to lose any of the internal hard drive/SSD space due to the two Timeshift backups.
What about doing a USB stick boot? All the review videos of stick boot installations are flawless. Some of those videos are as old or older than this one, so I think the problem is with the apt installation. I've heard nothing but bad things about it.
It's good so far .. everything got better and more optimised
Upgrading a Ubuntu-based system when you've got older hardware can be a worry, for example the last two years I've had to mess around with manually changing config files so the system would recognise a four year old NAS (the gods at Ubuntu don't like us peasants having external drives running Samba 1 .0).
What pushed me over the edge, I tried installing MX Linux 20 on a spare partition and it tried turning the main boor sector from a legacy MBR set up to a GPT system without having any room to set up a small Uefi partition. What a mess!!!
So my 'upgrade' this time round was a clean install of LM Debian edition over LM 19.3. Feels like a breath of fresh air....
I found an issue in that when I set dark mode it wiped the desktop of all icons and controls. I was able to recover (Forgotten how exactly. I think I managed to get a shutdown initiated from the command line.) but felt it was worth mentioning.
One minor issue is that I am unable to set the search engine to google using an online methodology. I select the more search engines and then select google and use the "Click Here" and nothing happens and the google is not added into the search engine list. I am not sure if this is a Mint 20 issue though.
I could not upgrade from 19.3 too many errors on install checker so not upgrading.
When you install Mint 20 the day before this video was released............. 😭
Remember, this is Tom's opinion, doesn't mean it is the absolute answer. If 20 is running smoothly, celebrate.
I tried to upgrade one of my computers from Mint 19 to Mint 20. It didn't go well. I posted to one of the Mint forums about it, and got flamed for not accepting that my hardware was broken. I installed Debian 10.4, and all is good. To tell the truth, I think I like Debian's version of Cinnamon a little better anyway, and Debian's definitely got a better community around it. Also, I wanted Hibernation; Mint makes this a battle, but Debian supported it out of the box. Oh, and Debian gives you a selection of screensaver hacks; Mint had just one choice, and it was a battle to install something else and get it to stay installed through months of patching.
I’ve upgraded but in saying that my machine isn’t used as my for my work machine only a personal machine.... web surfing, documents, email etc....
Upgrade destroys dual boot in case you have one. Funny that 20 upgrade require 19.3 but coldly desregards existing boot configs. Out of the window it went.
The upgrade removed only Audacity from my system. At least I haven't noticed any other one programs missing. Anyway, it was no biggie, it only took about 10 seconds to reinstall, and all my settings were intact (especially the Winamp skin I have used since Winamp v.2, which was the most important thing!).
EDIT: My computer is not a production computer, it exists only for my entertainment. However I will not upgrade my mother's computer. She doesn't want any changes, so why bother?
I switched and was very sorry. My USB ports would not work and some programs were missing - WINE programs. I switched back!
As a nerd with a UI design background I can say the upgrade path needs to a be a simple click .... not a string of commands... I think I will stay with 19.3 for a little while yet. Nothing drastic in 20 and losing 32bit support is the end of Linux on my older PC collection.
Yes.
As much as I hate timeshift (edit:for being such a resource hog), it saved my behind when I tried to upgrade to 20. It failed horribly and didn't boot so I had to use a rescue cd with timeshift to restore it to 19.
What about an install on my windows machine?
The icons in the notification area of Mint 20 look like something from an 8-bit Nintendo game. No idea why they changed them from 19.3. I use Chromium, Chrome, and Firefox. Chromium for email, social media, and banking, with Chrome and Firefox for my 2 UA-cam accounts. Chromium simply disappeared from my quicklaunch, and I could no longer find it in my /etc folder. I had download the deb file, but then had to manually download about 10 dependent packages to actually get Chromium installed, but now it crashes and quits at random intervals, about 4 times a day. I seriously consider downgrading back to 19.3 because 20 is not ready for release.
You could try switching some of your theme settings to Mint-X. I'm running 19.3 and if I switch everything to Mint-Y, I see those icons.
Chromium isn't available on 20 because it's now in the Snap repository, and Mint 20 doesn't use Snap. They're not going to change that, for ethical, practical and security reasons.
@@BatEatsMoth Thanks for the clarification. I completely understand the position on Snap. It seems some aspects of Linux have started to go wonky since that whole Ubuntu telemetry scandal from years ago. Problem is, I use Chromium for all email, banking, and online shopping, mostly due to it's "open source" status. I use Chrome for my primary UA-cam account, and Firefox for my secondary UA-cam account. I wish I knew of a browser that was as secure as Chromium, for lack of a better term, that I could use as an alternative. Then I could happily upgrade to Mint 20.
Thank you sir
Although I truly hate to enforce a stereotype, I'm a "boomer" and decidedly a terminalophobe. The insistent warnings about the upgrade process being difficult - and potentially disastrous - have me firmly anti-upgrade. Not even gonna try. Doubly so since 19.3 installed so easily and runs perfectly.
Just use something like Ubuntu or Feren OS where the upgrading is all, when it's actually released, via the GUI and not a Terminal.
Thanks
Still on 19.3.
I heard a lot broke from 18 to 19.
Jeeeezzzz... Where was this video 2-days ago?? I regret updating to LM20. 19.3 was dialed-in and working great and I was interested in "Warpinator" so I took the plunge. (Maybe you can do a video on how to use this tool with Windows 10? Ahhh... blasphemy! ;) ) Great advice though... The actual steps involved in the upgrade were a bit cumbersome... and IMHO.... NOT worth the time and effort.
MX Linux follows a better path. Either it is impossible to upgrade and you are forced to do a fresh install. Or the upgrade is totally transparent for the user through the usual updates
Even *Ubuntu* gets it right in that sense, literally putting Upgrade as a button in the updater whenever an upgrade is available.
@@ThatLinuxDude Everything is well explained on the MX Linux site: mxlinux.org/migration/
No button and no notification via the updater needed.
Thats the problem with MX u cant upgrade. Is there away to do it.
linux mint ulyana has some wifi issues
i understand what you saying
you should play at 1x1 resolution
I used to upgrade just because I wanted the latest and greatest...but now, I am very happy with 19.3, so I will not be upgrading, there is no point for me.
There are people who think that using Arch is complicated but it is a lot easier than this Mint upgrade. ;)
@@douglasward718 I agree on both.
@Raphael Silverstone I never like tyring out an OS in a VM because it does not function as well as a real install. I play games (StarCraft, Tomb Raider games, shooters, The Witcher, platformgames, puzzle-games...), I think that it is clear that for gaming you best use a Debian based distribution (because Valve only supports Debian) and usually the most recent gaming-related software (mesa, kernel, firmware, compilers...) gives the best performance. I have a 5700 XT which still has somewhat immature drivers so I really need the latest software. Then Arch is a sensible choice but I could make Debian and by extension Ubuntu (and Mint/popOS...) work too, it would just take more effort to get the latest version of some software installed.
In regard to Arch updating frequently, that actually has decreased a lot in the last months, allegedly because the leadership has changed a bit. I have had a few problematic updates, fortunately those problems are almost always easy to solve. Just downgrading one program suffices most of the time. One time the problem was because of Arch itself (policy-kit).
No do not upgrade. Libre office is messed up real bad, plus other things do not work, stay with 19.3
don't upgrade, you will only have wifi and driver problems
Fresh install Mint 20 on my new PC, works fine.