Jeffree Star is WRONG About Non-Binary People | Transphobic Rant Reaction
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ive always been a tomboy (cis woman) and the minute i found out what being trans was ive been supportive of that too. but... im not a trans man, im a cis woman. it irritates me so much when transphobes use the "tomboy" argument like WE LITERALLY STILL EXIST and dont feel like we "need" to transition 🙄 that doesnt take away the validity of trans people
So true! Not only that, but it puts all trans men in a box. Not every trans man was a “tomboy”, I certainly wasn’t. I grew up adoring ponies, dressing up and the color pink, but I still turned out to be trans lmao.
We need to stop generalizing people. Not all tomboys are trans men and not all trans men used to be tomboys. The two are unrelated despite their parallels.
Than don’t call yourself a cis woman 🤷🏻♀️. Your a woman.
There is nothing wrong with being yourself who evere you are.
i was into ponies & balletclasses, but fishing & hiking, building sand castles on the beach, is this typical Dutch!?
I had always interested in boats & airplanes.
I feel ashamed teasing my dad for his Highlander skirt, ( Blackwatch Infantry, Bravehart skirt)
Im gender fluid, i dont like the remarks that people like me cant decide!
And if your middelaged,d churgical interventions have more risk and longer recovery time!
The Navajo language recognizes 16 genders. The 2 Spirit community finds their genders in the Navajo language. Instead of thinking of ourselves as trans, we view ourselves as being on a spiritual journey in which finding our true gender as part of self discovery and important on our spiritual journey.
That sounds so cool!
@Georgia Newman If you are defining gender by genitalia, then there is a third: intersex; those born with both male and female genitalia. Of course, intersex can be scientifically divided into 32 different genders. I think you might be confusing gender with binary opposites. Different sciences acknowledge different numbers of genders. It's really about perspective and how you choose to define gender. That is why we should respect people's gender no matter how they choose to define it, including your right to define it as binary.
@@danielmankiller5098 there’s not 3 sexes. You’re only born with either a penis or a vagina. Not both x
@Sarah Black There is a PBS documentary done by Independent Lense called 2 Spirit. It is about the hate crime murder of Fred Mertinez. Fred was Navajo and 2 spirit. He is very important to many of us in the 2 spirit community. The 2 spirit community can be divisive, exactly as the greater LGBTQIA2+ community can be divisive, as Samantha was making a point of in this video we are commenting on. Most 2 Spirited persons feel that the term 2 Spirit is non-transferable to non-natives. I would love for Samantha to do a video on Fred Martinez, perhaps a reaction video as she watches the documentary. The reason the 2 Spirit community is so exclusive to Native-Americans only is so hateful non-natives won't be able to read a book or watch a video, then suddenly think they should educate Natives on how to be Native. If Samantha did a reaction video to the Fred Martinez documentary, it would not be offensive to Natives, and would bring awareness to the 2 Spirit community.
@@georgia.newman Why are you here? Fragile masculinity.
Jeffree Star talking out of his ass? Must be a day that ends with Y.
Phew I’m stealing that
🤣
I don't get it
@foreignwitch Every day of the week in english ends with y, so the joke is he does it all the time.
amen 😂
the meme of that guy putting a peace sign up and disappearing is me after jeffree said that the they/thems are stupid and don't exist
All of the they/thems and non-binary’s after Jeffree declared that they don’t exist: 😐✌️😶🌫️✌️🫥✌️
They really don’t exist 💀💀
@@Nxshhhhh "they" really don't exist
@@hymayra that’s exactly what I mean, “they(/them)” really don’t exist
I promise I didn't decide to become agender just because I was bored during the pandemic. I've felt this way since I was a teenager. I'm 37 now. I felt so relieved when I learned about nonbinary and agender. It finally explained how I had been feeling for years.
I'm also agender! I struggled even as a little kid, because I never understood all the gender stuff that people talked about. I spent so many years thinking I was broken beyond repair.
Once I finally figured it out, I finally got to see myself in the mirror, and felt complete. I wouldn't wish going so long with that pain on anyone.
I love this. The idea that when new terminology emerges, the concept did not preceded that terminology is so ridiculous ❤
same here omg. i remember from a young age "joking" that i wish i could've been born with the opposite physical attributes, and then in middle school (well before the pandemic) figuring out what language represented me best (and that it WASNT boy or girl). it ended up being nonbinary just because it can be a very encompassing term for other smaller identities and i stick with that because at the end of the day the label doesn't matter to me, just that i and those close to me understand who i am.
As a mortician, we were taught in school to treat people in death as they wanted to be treated in life. It was a hard day when we learned that some 'old school' funeral directors are willing to mis-gender their decedents. Cut their hair, pop off nails, get rid of/add some facial hair. It's so heart shattering. One time I went on a removal, the deceased was a trans man. I had to explain what a packer was to a death investigator and a room full of police officers [all of which were men] because the investigator had to document all 'clothing'. This gentleman was wearing a packer so it needed to be documented. The room was silent as I began to softly explain a few of the reasons why a trans man would want a packer. They all listened and they all learned something that day about respecting people's chosen identities. I can hope at least
oh my god! funeral directors 'migendered' dead people? he's worse than hitler!
that is a wild story. thanks for sharing.
That’s an actual trans person, not the same as this ridiculous non binary crap.
Aw thats way fucked up! Nice schooling them when u can friend!
Was he buried with his packer?
I can't with Jeffree. The amount of gaslighting from him is unreal.
"that's ackshually not gaslighting" 🤓
@@cantwin8105 dude,
@@cantwin8105 Jeffree has, in this clip, called being nonbinary 'stupid' and that it's 'made up shit'. In another clip, he asserts that he didn't say that. He tells us that we keep "putting words in his mouth" and that he never said non binary isn't real. I don't have the energy to provide other examples. Please do your research.
@@jgcoverkknot5701 he said things and then claimed he never stated such things. Sounds kinda "gaslighty" to me.
I think he does it for himself. I genuinely think he needs to do that to cope with his own horrible behavior.
When my brother was saying that he didn’t understand me and was just going to deadname me and misgender me because it was easier for him and I should just accept my grandma said “It’s not about you, just because you don’t understand doesn’t mean you shouldn’t respect them” and I just thought it was cool of her and relevant to this video. (Also my brother didn’t mean any harm he just legitimately did not understand why my gender is different and why it’s such a big deal, I think my grandma helped though!)
Your grandma sounds lovely AND SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! ♡ SENDING PEACE AND LOVE TO YOUR WAY BABE
i love your grandma for that
My exact thoughts/feelings. I don’t fully understand it but okay? I can and will still be respectful of they/them people because I want to be respected my damn self.
Why would anyone care about made up identities?
@@ageoldmary no one believes this crap, so who cares about your bullshit pronouns.
Thank you. Yeah. Being trans non-binary is honestly so exhausting. No one understands and some people take that misunderstanding and turn it into hate.
Real Transhumanism isn't what you trans think it is. Stop thinking from your root chakra
I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the gay community on this issue. I'm pansexual, so it really is confusing me how many of my gay friends are turning on the trans community right now. It's frankly scaring me. So I've ended some friendships over this in recent weeks. Love to you Lux… And I'm a Trans rights supporter. Im cis female 66 years old and this is reminding me exactly what happened in 1939 Germany only now the Fascists are going after the Trans community first this time around. 🥺🥺😡😡😡
They went after trans people last time as well.
no but fr, im trans and im actually so scared, i feel like i might have to move out of the US because theres so many laws being passed that criminalize our very existence. its truly dystopian.
@@unseenmolee keep yourself safe and keep yourself educated in these awful times.
There never really was an LGBT "community" other than it being the group of very disparate people that only had one thing in common that they were the "other" that mainstream society oppressed (when it wasn't busy oppressing other groups). Now that gay folk have gained acceptance in mainstream culture there is no need for them to provide a "unified front" and the social differences are being manifest. The TG are last "other" that the rest of the monkeyes can throw poo at. Its human nature sadly.
@@unseenmolee
Consider moving to New Zealand, we have self-id, excellent support, however we have a huge waiting list (lack of doctors able to preform Gender Affirming Surgeries) besides that our laws are really accomodating to trans and all lgbt people. We also celebrate racial diversities by also including other cultures trans identities.
when i was younger i questioned my identity a lot and ended up watching a lot of trans and lgbtq+ youtubers who made me feel better about my thoughts.
unbeknownst to me i had ended up following the wrong people and when people like blair white mentioned how anyone outside of the typical gender binary didn’t exist it hurt. i actually liked blair’s videos because she rationalized things that made sense to my dumb little 11 year old brain at the time.
hearing the people i looked up to tell me that my identity wasn’t real or right really hurt and cause a lot of inner turmoil that could have been avoided. especially since it was such a new thing to me and the label i was using was fresh even if the way i felt wasn’t.
but now, being able to hear from better and more accepting trans youtubers makes me feel so much more validated and understood than i’ve been in a long time.
thank you Samantha
I’m so sorry to hear you fell down the Blair white pipeline. (Me too🥲) No one should have to go through that emotional distress. I can only imagine the betrayal you felt. I hope now you’ve found peace in knowing almost the entire lgbt+ community hates what she stands for! in pandering to conservative transphobes, she’s estranged the very community she claims to be part of. I hope she can see the error of her ways in the future. Enbys are valid and super deserving of love ❤️ have a wonderful day!
Ive been there too. Watching blaire and people like her made it so hard to fully embrace who i was. Im so glad you were able to get out of that toxic place. Live long and loved
you know what makes me sad? people who can't accept that there are other people who don't share your opinion. even sadder? when you can't support your opinion with any evidence other than your preferred word choice. that's what's sad. tragic, even. you're like a xtian in a muslim country who just can't understand why no one around you accepts the lord jesus christ when all your best internet buddies go to the same online church and cry over zoom at how sad it is that only you got the gospel. well, you didn't get the gospel. you're wrong. we're right. and eventually? you'll pick another word to describe yourself--it just depends on how good that word makes you feel. NOT how accurate it is. and you know what's saddest? you will feel all butt hurt for reading this. you won't suddenly go, "Wait! That's a good point! Let me consider it!" no, you'll go cry to your little friends and they'll kiss it and make it all better.
@@snowyhudson975 I think whats tragic is the amount of brain cells you're lacking to think that coming onto this comment, on this video, to type out this senseless ill intended paragraph that makes no coherent point, is anything other than what it objectively is: A worthless waste of everyones time.
Dont go on youtube for emotional support and identity defining choice. Consult expert and SPEAK to people dont just listen. You cant form a true opinion by just nodding your head in agreement
"Non-binary isn't real" says the most androgynous looking person I've ever seen
Edit: the comments bro 💀
Unhinged lunacy
I didn't think they were the same thing.
I remember he was saying in one video that he doesn't care about being called him or her he's just Jeffrey but he knows he's gender non conforming but knows he's a man at the end of the day. He doesn't need to have a label and it's hard to not respect and look up to that because that's what we all strive for right? No being labeled I mean.
@@graywarden2178but he labels himself as a man…
@NayaMasters he didn't label himself that way he knows he's a man and doesn't need extra variations of labels to be himself. I'm seeing this alot in the media (I say the media because in real life people are just living their own life's with there own problems) that people are starting to be tooo labeled like if that's their whole identity but there is more to you then just a label.
@can't win then why is non binary under the trans umbrella it seems to me that it's all opinions and no real structure to the whole label thing and I think that's the real overall reasons why people who disagree with the lgbt+ community is confused because it looks like we can't seem to get our shit straight and yes me and other people who you would consider apart of the community is also not liking what it's become; just no structure or what little there was isn't real there no more.
So weird to see someone how seams like they'd be supportive of trans people and non binary people since he doesn't fit into gender norms be so transphobic about the use of pronouns other than she/her and he/him. Anyway, great video standing up for non binary people like me, love you!
He’s not delusional. He knows he’s just a male who like feminine things
@@twistedbliss58 oop
I'm pretty sure he's just a grifter who's saying what he thinks conservatives want to hear. He thinks making fun of enbies will mean conservatives will accept him and give him money. He's delusional if he thinks they'll accept him, they hate gendernonconforming people.
@@twistedbliss58 A man who likes stereotypically feminine thing is still a man. Transwomen are women. Duh...
Jeffree has said you can call them “he/him” or “she/her” he doesn’t care! So it is incredibly weird!!
i hate that when ppl talk abt being trans they dismiss that kids could ever understand themselves. its just so callous? like sure kids arent the MOST intelligent, but no one will ever understand your own mind as well as you yk??? so its just so gross imo to say "oh theyre too young they have no idea what theyre talking abt" like no how abt you take this kid seriously because this is a person and not just a doll for you to dress up however you want, as their parent... ugh it makes me so mad
Good point. Kids might not know as much as adults about many things, but they *can* still know themselves and their own experience in ways that nobody else does.
@@cantwin8105 ive known i was trans since i can remember, earliest i can think of is 5. just because you changed your mind says nothing for every other trans person. dont weaponize your experience to discount mine and other ppls, its pathetic and disgusting
people really forget that kids are actually more intelligent and introspective than adults think they are, and it's a shame that lack of understanding leads people to completely dismissing their own views about themselves. the idea that kids can't think for themselves due to their age is used by so many homophobic and transphobic parents to justify not respecting their children's identities.
Yes kids do feel and can express themselves but we are bad at understanding ourselves, young and old. Thats why we seek therapist and friends to talk about our jumbled mind. Because we get lost in our head, alone. Listening to your kid and understanding what he feels is necessary but to agree blindly is just foolish and doesn't represent the world out of the familial bubble.
because kids are too young to properly understand the consequence's of their actions in the long term. If say a 12 year old boy is emotionally intelligent enough to properly understand that he is in fact a "girl" than please tell me why that 12 year can't consent to
sex
tattoo's
drinking alcohol
driving
and other things adults can do
all of these things have far less consequences(besides maybe sex) to the child yet for some reason we as a society decided that kids are intelligent enough to do change there gender but not enough to do x,y and z
We literally had a wedding ceremony in Kindergarten where the boys and girls were paired up and walked down the aisle, just to get it in our heads that Q was always followed by a U.
That’s fucking creepy. Dude note, what are you referring to with the Q and U stuff, I don’t get it.
@@kstar1489 Like, we were learning basic spelling patterns and the whole lesson was about how the letter Q is always followed immediately by the letter U. And so girls were the Q’s and guys were the U’s and we walked down the center of the classroom in nice clothes, in pairs. Parents attended, it was a whole thing.
@@jacquelynthompson5346 WHAT. THE. F*CK WAS YOUR TEACHER THINKING???
Jeffree understands: Jeffree just follows where the money is.
That was my thought. Smacks of being paid off.
Your pfp is so confusing.
Him and I are both November Scorpios but... thank God we don't have the same mentality. It's sad to see him like this! Just smh
He follows common sense
@@stephaniemarie4303 gigalol: he does because every day is more apparent that what is considered the sense of the majority of common folks is scientifically inaccurate, if not anti-scientific, selfish, inhumane and ultimately insane. And you might be such an example.
I have never understood how people can't respect someone's gender identity and keep their opinions to themselves. It is not very hard to be kind to someone and call them by the name and pronouns they choose. Why would you help knowledge and respect for other people be taken. 👎
personally, i dont find anything wrong with using they/them pronouns, but when you want me to use bee/bees/beeself, or bun/buns/bunself...... like it just confuses me like.
@@Hi-vt9ny that’s not what the word „pick me” even means tf
i actually had a covo in youtube comments with someone just yesterday explaining the diff between sex and gender, and explaining why its important to gender ppl correctly and they were like "you explained your argument and it makes sense but im gonna keep calling people what i want" like,,,
imagine doing that with any other topic
Because they have been convinced by politicians, pastors, comedians that anyone that doesn't conform to their ideology of what is right, correct, and "ought'a be", is wrong and a threat to themselves and their way of living. Its the oldest form of "problem, solution" marketting. Create a threat (Them Gays!) and offer a solution (please contribute to my campaign, offering plate, buy ma' book).
The only good thing is that today here (and for right now) its mild. There was a time and sadly continues to this day where whole populations are oppressed, enslaved, or massacred over petty differences and wanting to impose their beliefs on others.
@@Hi-vt9ny wasn’t talking to you omfg. Choose your side. Are you in support of trans people or not?? You say you support they/them pronouns and yet you’re trying to argue with me
Watching people of one minority identity throw people of another minority identity under the bus is always distressing. Once those engaging in boogieman politics have sapped all the grievance economy out of one particular identity, who do they think they are coming for next?
Every occupation has its collaborators.
@@cantwin8105 "Common sense" is the name intellectually lazy people gave to their surface level observations in a desperate attempt to give them legitimacy. It's the ridiculous notion that a casual glance is as much if not more valuable than a deep dive. The kind of people who throw around the term "common sense" as some kind of evidence are the same people in the test audience for The Madness of King George the 3rd who said they "didn't want to comment because they hadn't seen the first two."
oh, dear god. nonbinary as a minority begs the question--who is discriminating against the nonbinary when no one knows what nonbinary even looks like, not even those who call themselves nonbinary? no one is against anyone who calls themselves nonbinary. what is at issue is the word. it's a content free word. it refers to ... fashion? there's literally no way to know who is nonbinary unless told. that's not a thing. that's a trend. trends end.
@@snowyhudson975 there's a wikipedia article on it lol. really not that hard to find. i'm surprised your comment got two likes when the answer to what you said (sealioning; you would have known that article exists if you were legitimately interested in hearing about nonbinary experiences) is literally so easy to google.
@@cantwin8105 When you *cite* Wikipedia as a source, not use it. It's actually very useful because at the bottom of just about every article are citations that people can go and check out for themselves.
bruh how is jeffery still.. like here. i just figured he died
He looks dead
He is an eldtrich being that fades in and out of existence. Don't question it.
@@Snow_Sailor She
Hes like a roach. Fuckin scuttling from one place to another
When talking about mascara gate (if u don’t know - it’s not important but it happened just weeks ago before this interview came out) someone asked, “Why’d you really make the crypt keeper come out of his crypt?!?” (Talking about Jeffree) and I 💀 it was perfect!
it's so unfortunate and sad when a parson internalizes the negativity or hate they receive, but also way too common.
Omg Jeffree. I knew I was outside of the binary when I was 7. I told people I was a girl and a boy. I've used the term nonbinary/genderqueer since 2012. I'm 35. This isn't ~new~
@@cantwin8105according to who? What’s your qualification to make that statement so confidently? Got any references? Cos there is plenty to say that non binary people have existed across the world for longer than writing has existed
yeah, outside the binary. so, what, you divide parthenogenically to reproduce? no? oh! you mean you require something other than a male or a female to reproduce, a third gender of some kind? no? hm. ahhh. yeah. you mean you like to wear whatever you like, regardless of intended gender. gotcha! yeah, that's a hill worth dying on, fr.
@@cantwin8105 It's been a thing for a long time. Many cultures have recognised a third gender historically, and besides, have you seen the rocky horror picture show? That wasn't released during COVID.
@@snowyhudson975 aww, cute! You don’t know the difference between sex and gender yet! Go study up, and come back when you’ve learned something beyond overly simplified biology for children, ok? Maybe a bit of psych and history would help you as well. Ta ta! 👋🏼
@@cantwin8105 oh lord you little donut they said they are still identifying as non binary
also samantha you look fucking stunning today like you're making me even gayer than usual lmao
😂😂 a lesbian who thinks samantha Is stunning, u mean, u making me even straighter than usual. Samantha Is a dude.😉
show of hands, who expected jeffree to be stupid? i know i sure as hell did... surprised jeffree didnt say the n word too or something since he loves that word
yeah i think hes said some racist stuff
🙆🙆♀️🙆♂️🙆🙋♂️🙋🙋♀️🙋🙋♂️🙋🙋♂️🙋♀️🙋🙋♂️👏☝👆☝🤞🤟🤏☝🤌☝🤌. But all jokes aside, jeff really needs to consider his words.
The hair dye has leached into his brain.
"show of hands, who expected jeffree to be stupid?" translation 1: who expected jeffree to disagree with me? translation 2: WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! STOP TELLING ME I DON'T EXIST!!! I AM REAL, AM TOO AM TOO AM TOO!!!! (coz you know that arguing it makes it real to whomever you whine it to)
@@snowyhudson975you write like a 3rd grader
Jeffree: Androgynous and claims to use any pronouns.
Also Jeffree: Doesn't understand basic grammar.
When did he ever claim specifically any pronoun? He's ok with she her he him. Not the invented they.
Why do u think he is speaking out? Because it's stupid and he doesn't want to be addressed as a freaking they.
@@SmittenandBitten it’s not stupid, human beings are allowed to identify and live however they wish
You lack the care or respect for others to research and understand their identity and the history behind it
@@quinnaddison420 and what are your pro nouns?
@@SmittenandBitten if I feel like sharing them I’ll let you know
@@quinnaddison420 see. Even you know that it's ridiculous, you're ashamed of your own pro nouns.
And no humans are not allowed to identify as how they want with limitless creativity.
Have you not been humiliated enough by people who say, "I identify as a helicopter"
And your only come back is, "do you really? Or are you just faking it to hurt my feelings" 😂
I find it so bizarre that people will refuse to use they/them pronouns because "the non-binary stuff is made up". Like... OK, so is the age of consent, do you respect that? Marriage being 'made up' won't help you cry any less when your wife files for divorce. Everything - from the sequence of syllables that form your name, to the very borders of the country you live in-were just ideas a bunch of people had in their heads. Something seeming all new and invented doesn't make it any less real.
the thing i've noticed with a lot of the "is it age-appropriate?" argument for gay and trans stuff is that a lot of these ppl just wanna be homophobic and transphobic lmao. Like I dont even mean in asking that question, I mean that they are fine with their kids finding out about queer stuff through their own homophobic and transphobic lens but not in a "this is just as normal as being cis/straight" way. My own parents have this argument now, but when my sister and i were (in their eyes now) "too young" for queer stuff, they had some incredibly bad shit to say about queer people and they said it to us or around us. And now they tell me that kids shouldn't know about gay people until they're in their late teens or something. But it was fine to know about it then, because it was Bad. Kids can know about the monsters in the closet, but they can't know about the real people walking around them.
you know what it's called--concern trolling.
@@cantwin8105 and you might be. self-hate is big in the queer community. i would never ask if anything factual and possible to encounter in daily life is "age-appropriate." that really is bigoted.
@@snowyhudson975 i mean, i wouldnt show a beheading to my 10 year old, i wouldnt give my child an 18+ videogame before the age of 16. Im not comparing shielding your child to awful thing and informing correctly your child. Im just saying age apropriate things exist and needs to be respected
@@cantwin8105 news flash....you can be gay and homophobic
My philosophy is that if a kid is old enough to ask the question, then they're old enough to get the answer.
Jeffree of all people deciding enbies aren't valid is laughable.
But the dumbest thing is Jeffree thinking that if betrays enbies, then people like Matt Wash will accept him. They won't honey, they think you're an abomination, why do you want them?
It's funny bc i remember a time when I used to watch his make up videos he used to say he goes by any pronoun even they/them lmao the hypocrisy
@@cantwin8105 there's literal nonbinary ppl that go by any and all pronouns lol. And as a cis woman, you bet I don't like being called a he, most ppl don't like being called the incorrect pronoun. That's what's real. call a random cis dude on the street a she and stay to see what happens to you if you have the guts lmao. It's the same with trans and nonbinary folks, it's just basic respect. Y'all get offended over people telling you to respect their pronoun, that's not any better. It's not even hard to do.
@@Santabby were not uncivilized barbarians. Youve got stereotypes about straight men and thats hurtful.
@@OctoMatoe not all men, but enough. Way too many, actually. That's all I've got to say.
I don't care if people call me they them because I look gender non conforming but I don't think they them should exist this way. It gets too confusing in context and unnatural. Singular they them should only be used when the gender is unknown to be male or female. Not neither. Invent a new pronoun for that, NOT THEY THEM or billions of neo pronouns
@@OctoMatoe as a man, enough are
I was more confused than anything because they are one of the most gender fluid looking people I’d ever seen in my life
Seems a bit transphobic you assuming their gender like that
@@Sirtrollsalotalot he said LOOKING*
@@SeinIshamiado I know
LGBT culture? Do you mean from an American perspective? LGBT history? Ballroom dancing/vouging (created by black lgbt people)?
Edit: The person deleted their comment so now I look like a weirdo.
Even more than David Bowie! Like literally more fluid than anyone!
"i don't understand being non-binary"
cool. i don't care if you don't really get my identity. all i want is basic respect, rather than pushing me aside and saying it doesn't exist.
As a trans woman I do respect the individuals pronouns I'd never deliberately make any individual feel hurt personally by me , I just don't get it as a whole , I don't think its trans related I think it's a separate thing , well atleese it should be
@@rosannam7623 No, it's trans. A nonbinary person categorically does not identify with their assigned gender. Trans.
welllll, when there is evidence that it exists as something other than a trendy word, and you can demonstrate how your gender identity is in any way different from what is presented, then you'll get that respect. till then, get out of the way, it doesn't exist.
As a trans woman myself, I absolutely understand your gender identity and completely respect it. It falls under the trans umbrella, because being trans is simply identifying as a gender identity different from what you are assigned at birth. Most people are disrespectful assholes, but y'know what? Theres also people like me and others who have your back and stand with you. We all are benefit from unity rather than division, and I'm sorry that cis people and some people in the queer community don't get that and would rather be hurtful. Your identity exists, your identity is valid, and NO ONE is allowed to take away your truth. You deserve to be your authentic self and live your truth, and I hope it can at least give you some comfort to know you're not completely alone in this. Also all the others who replied are wrong and dumb af
@@cantwin8105 Why doesn't the term make sense then? And yes, a lot of people are disrespectful of the things they refuse to understand.
Whenever someone says "how are you a they?! How are you multiple people?!" It just goes to show how many people do not understand English
As if a conversation will ever be like:
"Do you know whose keys these are?"
"I think there was a person just here"
"Do you know where they went?"
"Who's 'they'?? How many people are you looking for??"
A lot of Americans don't understand English because of our "stellar" education system.
In these moments I think about that quote 'I don't understand greek but I'm not here saying it's stupid and it doesn't exist' Just because you don't understand something doesn't change the fact that it's very real.
Jeffree is literally dawned in trans colors like-
@@cantwin8105 he isn't, but what op meant was that it's ironic that he's wearing colors that are reminiscent of the transgender flag while being transphobic
@@cantwin8105 the trans colors: 🏳️⚧️ I also wasn’t saying, nor implying he’s trans. I was just speaking on the irony of his rudeness
@@germasaurus6762 exactly !! 💗
@@germasaurus6762 but he's not even being transphobic though
@@rosannam7623 He quite literally is. If you search the definition of transphobia, you'll get "dislike of or prejudice against transgender or transsexual people." The definition of transgender is not identifying with your gender assigned at birth. Most people who use they/them pronouns, myself included, are nonbinary, genderqueer, genderfluid, etc which falls under the transgender umbrella term. Jeffree saying he "isn't with the new they and them thing"(I believe those were his words, correct me if I'm wrong), he is actively expressing a dislike for the pronoun and people who use it, therefore being transphobic. Hope this helps!
8 years old is the exact time kid’s develop puppy crushes. That is also the first time a child may notice they have a “crush” on someone of the same gender.
Perfect example:
My 7 year old grandson has a big crush on the librarian at the school he goes to. He has a puppy crush and he’s 7. So there is a big possibility that a child as young as 7-8 can identify if they are different.
That’s the most backwards argument I’ve ever heard.
@@georgia.newman how so
Thank you so so much for this Samantha!! As a nonbinary person, I think you understand us incredibly well and, you're just a lovely person tbh!
omg you are the antidote i needed after watching that blaire video 😹😹😹
Girl nothings wrong with blaire, it's just the fact that she actually understands what being trans is and how it's affecting the trans community such as allowing kids to make adult choices with their body, for example in California they've allowed kids to take hromone blockers without the parental consent, which is literally unacceptable. And for people to call her "transphobic" is insane.
@@cantwin8105 Girl im literally gay and i get called homophobic because i dont support this stuff like ITS CRAZYYYY. Like people actually need to be taught bout this stuff because it's only negatively affecting the LGBTQ.
@@cantwin8105 Because one can be transphobic despite being trans themselves, especially Blair who just follows the money and has been a known liar for years.
Also, accurate username.
@@Hi-vt9ny she understood it so well, in fact, that she accused a trans woman of being a trender and had to make an embarrassing apology video when finding out that trans woman was on hrt as long as she was. how about the time when she misrepresented a trans athlete by accusing her of participating in the women's category when she wasn't? oh, it's definitely showing a massive understanding of trans people and detrans people to insult a detransitioner by implying she's not pretty anymore and to pity her rather than understand her (prompting the detransitioner she's apparently supporting to make a tiktok going "are you for real?" and to make a statement on sam collins' interview of her about how condescending it was). definitely very informative to repeatedly insult other trans people, including those further along their journey, because they don't "pass" as well as her; definitely understanding to how difficult transition can be for some people and how it can respond differently to various bodies. how about the fact she reports on ALL of this nonsense while completely ignoring the repeated anti-trans bills that are being passed by conservatives (the group SHE supports) that allow the denial of medical healthcare to trans youth... not just the kind that helps them transition, but ANY medical healthcare, period?
forgive me if i don't consider her our spokesperson.
should note one of those she insulted for not "passing" was a minor, aka the group she wants to keep from transitioning. what the hell are they supposed to do, blaire? lol
- another footnote (sorry, another edit): those insults were attacks on their appearance by implying they're ugly, their transition didn't go well/they didn't try hard enough on it, or even subtly implying they're a predator. so, you know.
@@cantwin8105 trans people can be transphobic , gay people can be homophobic and similarly, poc can be racist. Clearly you're 12
bro i watched fucking ninjago as a child. i was obsessed with sonic the hedgehog, i was that tomboy child. but i would’ve rather died than be a boy. just because a child enjoys “non-traditional content for their gender” doesn’t mean they’re trans 😭
i love having my gender belittled every waking moment of everyday (is rotting inside) no but thank you for talking about this
dw. your gender is 100% valid!
@@vmpkai to them. not to me or to a lot of people. we humor you. but we humor a lot of people. like the religious. same thing. we know you're delusional, but it's counterproductive to tell you this when our business doesn't require anyone to believe in what you believe. why is that so hard to take on board? you can be treated with respect, but still not be believed. that's normal. what you want is for us to believe and consider our disbelief morally wrong. it's not. you're wrong. we're not wrong. but we accept you, anyway, even if we don't accept your delusions. i'm being frank here because this subject requires it. "nonbinary" is exactly the kind of thing that alienates anyone with even a passing level of scientific understanding. it's not a gender. it's not even a gender identity. it's a trend. trends end. talk to us again in twenty-years. we'll all have a laugh. "Remember when I was all about being nonbinary? Right?! The safe way to be a part of the queer community. I mean, who wants to be left out when all your friends are coming to terms with their being trans or gay or bi?"
@@vmpkai thank you!!
@Snowy Hudson man how do you have the free time for this, i dont care
@@snowyhudson975 And if you had a little MORE than a passing level of scientific understanding, you'd know that gender isn't a scientific question, and that biological sex isn't binary either. x'D Check out Forrest Valkai's video "Sex and Sensibility" if you're interested.
It's so annoying that people try to act like non-binary is this brand new phenomenon. The term is new, the feelings and dysphoria aren't. I'm 34, and I have felt this way at least since first grade. Boy and girl never seemed that different to me, and I've never understood why I was required to be one based on my genitalia. I don't hate my assigned sex, but it doesn't fit any better than the opposite. People don't know what to do with me because they expect me to behave in certain ways based on my body, even if those expectations make no sense to me. It causes a lot of unnecessary confusion.
I'm not some young impressionable teenager, but a full fledged adult with a degree, a job, a spouse, and a mortgage. I was an enby before the term existed. I've always felt different, now I just have a word to help explain it.
Feeling different doesn’t make you trans
I'm just sitting here wondering how tens of thousands of people do not understand that sex =/= gender idk
@@rhymerlegend2717 No one out here is claiming their sex is different than the one they were born as. Gender is more of an expression, how you show up in the world. Two separate things.
@@rhymerlegend2717 you're literally saying this on a trans woman's video how did you even get here
@@faeridaecat2107this rhymers thing, it pollutes the comments of various creators with its toxic lies and hate. I’m not even sure it’s a real person, may it’s an ai. Just report it for hate speed and move on, don’t waste time engaging, that’s what it wants you to do.
@11:00 "When they say they don't understand..."
Its just how they are articulating their fear and hatred of something different in an sociopolitical environment when you can't say you hate someone anymore.
Samantha is all “respect people’s pronouns” and here she calls Jeffree “them”, he made very clear multiple times he’s a dude, please respect his pronouns Samantha, practice what you preach
His "apology" is even worse. You should react to that, Samantha. I saw it on Ty Turner's channel and I can't believe he filmed it thinking that could ever be classified as an apology.
Blaire White’s video on this topic is still more accurate. Sorry 😒
Awesome story: when I first met my bestie she identified as a bi male, then she came out as a gay man, then she came out as non-binary and gay, but recently she came out as a trans woman. I’ve always accepted her and she has always accepted me. I’m genderfluid and bi.
I am at a point where I am not coming out to different people, because I don't want to do all the explaining and get hurtful comments that come with it to effect me. Its exhausting.
They dont need to know if theyre not your inner circle. Just be happy that you know who/what you are and fuck the rest of us. Most of us dont care either
@@OctoMatoe Those People include Parts of my Family though ^^
@@Lux_Familiar it still applies. Family is the people who you trust with your life. Its the people you would kill for. Its the people you grew up with and spent time with. Fuck the rest, they are not important.
Seeing my friends go through that, in turn made me say fuck it and i just dont give a shit about labels. I like who i like, i dont mind mystery and if someone wants to assume anything about me then go ahead bc what matters in the end is taking care of yourself and keeping your relationships safe.
It's weird how little kids don't really seem to have a problem with the idea of non-binary and other trans people, but grown adults struggle with the concept of people being a little different from what they are used to...
Adults didnt understand hippy culture, goths, emos, scene kids, hipsters. Theres no doubt trans people exist. But there's no doubt that some of these "kids" are using being trans, to be part of the LGBT community as this community has never been more marketable, cool, topical, and a way to get what you want or at least a voice.
And dont say that doesnt happen, ive litterally did the same with my gayness at 20, calling bartenders homophobic for kicking me out when in fact we snuck in our own drinks into the bar.
Tip: Jump over the incredibly low bar we have made to be part of the LGBT community, weaponize it to get what you want.
@@NeonJ1 To want our basic human rights is not the same as sneaking drinks into a bar. That's just young adult stupid and has nothing to do with LGBT.
Do some use it for the hype and such? Sure. But compared to the people who NEED this community, because they are not accepted anywhere else, that's but a small number.
@@Spagettigeist 100% agree that its scewing over the people who need to transition to survive. These people jumping on the bandwagon are literally ruining it for real trans people. People who have body dysphoria.
The solution is to gatekeep the community to stop the theft of trans resources, and spaces.
This isn't an uncommon view, many trans people are just as fed up, as I agree, they are the real victims.
This comment section is priceless. Whenever my sister tries to argue that people aren't really this crazy I always direct her here.
NO BC LITERALLY HOW ARE THERE THIS MANY PEOPLE WHO THINK JEFFREE IS WRONG 😂😂💀💀💀
I don’t think there’s a problem telling a kid that “boys can like boys and girls can like girls” if they ask. It’s harmless, cause by that point I’m sure they know that boys can like girls and girls can like boys.
It’s his opinion. And a lot of ppl think that way. Get over it and move on. There’s plenty of ppl that disagree with him. Use ur pronouns and just stop calling everyone transphobic.
Right
I think this is just more proof that gender identity and gender expression are two very different things. Jeffree may express himself in a very androgynous/fluid way, but he obviously still identifies as a man. It's just sad that he uses that against non-binary people. Thank you for standing with us Samantha
Like why do people have to be transphobic... Like it's just old and to see a trans person say these things just hurts
No because what he said and the people saying he’s right had me so pissed
It's infuriating because the conservatives coming out of the woodwork to agree with Jeffree would consider him a freakish degenerate in any other context.
What is going on?? I seriously thought that Jeffree was gender nonconforming /in the non binary spectrum. How can they be so transphobic while also presenting their gender so fluidly. This is the one and only bad thing I'm actually surprised about jeffree doing. They've done so many other controversial things but come on. :/
You people are idiots
He is gender nonconforming, but apparently he's cis. He's trying to be a grifter. He thinks making fun of enbies will mean conservatives will accept him and give him money. He's delusional if he thinks they'll accept him, they hate gendernonconforming people.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 yeah. It sucks. It literally does nothing for anyone. It just spreads hate and misinformation. The people they're trying to relate to won't accept jeffree and will use this as another reason to not accept anyone else either,,
@@Foxhound94 care to elaborate? :)
Jeffree Star has always identified as a man - him/him.
He doesn't want to be called 'they/them'.
I'm certainly *not* a fan of Jeffree Star, but if he wants to be called 'he' instead of 'they' then surely people should respect that?
****EDIT****
Just to clarify, I'm talking about you calling Jeffree 'they/them in your comment, when he has always identified as he/him.
Thank you from this enby. Your videos never fail to cheer me up.
Cis sounds like cyst. Have more respect, self proclaimed acceptance advocate. And ya can't advocate for acceptance while forcing terms on others ☕
How are people still talking about Jeffree?!?? We're still doing this?? We're still allowing him a crumb of relevancy???? Why??
On a serious note, thank you so much for covering this dipshittery and having our backs!
It hurts our feelings that he’s talking the truth I mean how stupid are you? Seriously?
How do you make a come back then instantly get into drama again
It is what it is
Who is gonna tell Jeffrey that they/them has been used in a singular sense since the 15th century (in English at least) and not just during the pandemic
Everything he said is true. The truth is there are only 2 genders dictated by biology, but you can express yourself in multiple ways such as being androgenous, and not conforming to a particular gender.
Starr reminding us he’s still just a rich white man
and ur a depressed liberal in your bed making hate twoards jefree because he actually has a sense of reality that u dont.. ._.
u got owned by a gay person to if it makes u feel better
Oprah is a rich black woman. What's your point?
Him bragging that "conservatives like me 🤪" as if it's a flex lmao
Also I want to clarify that if someone said "liberals like me" is equally cringe, the real homies know that destroying the 2 party system is where it's at
I'm always so happy when you talk about letting kids be kids and wear whatever they want. I mean, I ended up tams but my twin sister wore the same Spiderman costumes and played with the same truck and she's a super fem cis girl
👍
Ah yes I use they/them pronouns because I love drama
well you sure as sh** aren't using they/them pronouns because you want to avoid confusion.
@@snowyhudson975 if everyone called you the wrong pronoun would you correct them? Or just avoid confusion and let it go even if they're wrong?
@@snowyhudson975they/them pronouns are only confusing to people who didn’t pay attention in elementary school. Maybe you need to repeat 2nd grade English,
yes you do
It’s funny how this person keeps calling Jeffree “they” even though he specifically said he wanted to be referred to as he and him.
i just don't understand what other ppl don't understand about being nb. Even when I was a kid, before I knew what nb was (first heard the term in high school) I still knew that I didn't really fit into being a boy or a girl. It wasn't even about my social circle, what my hobbies were, how I liked to dress, etc. It was just something I felt deep down about myself. I always viewed myself as just... me; just a kid and my gender was never a part of what made up my identity. I just did whatever made me happy. That's all it really is. People feel strongly about their identities as being a man or a woman, but I never felt that. How is that hard to get?
And as a kid without even hearing about nonbinary or trans people I came up with a theory that these people must exist.
In the best words I could: "can a boy be a girl, and a girl be a boy?" And "can someone be neither or both?"
And then I started looking this up and found Jazz Jennings and was super happy that my theory was correct, I also thought about how cool it was.
Now I'm way older and would definitely use different terminology but that's cause I've grown and learnt.
@@cantwin8105
Nonbinary isn't a 3rd gender its a spectrum of identities that don't fit within the binary (its literally in the name) but a lot of people use it as a term for their identity, and being NonBinary isn't necessarily a gender, could be a feeling of lack of gender, etc, thats why people who don't experience gender strongly or isn't important to them would still use this term.
They might not feel strongly about the word but if they don't they might not fully understand themselves. And its not going out of their way to call themselves that, its the bare minimum to finding and understanding youself.
@@neon17.08 honestly, it's just a word game. something to say when you don't want to do the hard work of introspection. there is nothing outside the binary. unless a new sex emerges that can have a child with either a male or a female, it's one or the other or both or none. there is no third gender/sex. and some days wanting to wear clothing designed for males and other days wanting to go out wearing something designed for females or other days wanting to wear a burlap sack, that's not a gender identity. that's just fashion.
@@snowyhudson975
NonBinary isn't a third gender, WE KNOW, can somebody please tell you guys you don't need to keep telling us what we already know, its exhausting.
And WE ALSO KNOW about the clothing just being a fashion statement, most of us don't awknowledge that society has separated clothes by categories "woman" and "man" (its ridiculous), we just want to wear what we want to wear and that applies to everyone Cisgender, Transgender and Nonbinary, clothing has nothing to do with our gender but society is so ingrained in that idea that people like you can't even separate it from gender identity and thats just sad. Gender Expression ≠ Gender Identity ≠ sex, yes they're related but only to western social ideals.
We considered NonBinary the intersex (as it fits outside of a sex binary) of gender identity, which will make a lot of sense if you learn something, or if you even understood what nonbinary means. So yes there is something outside of the binary, there always is something, if there was a third sex it would not be Nonbinary (please use your brain).
But it is not a "word game" it is more, it is a huge part of our identity and culture.
Our history is filled of people who identified with what is known as a "third gender" which we understand now would either be considered transgender and/or nonbinary.
It is not a word game, it is a history, it is human identity, it is our culture, it is in our nature.
So instead of commenting your opinion on something that clearly shows you've made effort to even research, just don't comment, you sound ridiculous.
@@neon17.08 those two have been sealioning all over this video's comment section it's nuts lol. you'd think they'd get a hobby or something
Calling male and female "poles" of sex is such a good way to explain biological sex
Yes, it is, right?
I agree with Samantha that Jeffree Star just simply does not care. The trans community already deals with so much discrimination, harassment, and violence. Jeffree Star went out of his way to further marginalize an already marginalized community and added fuel to the fire when he could’ve just simply not said anything.
Jeff " I use all pronouns" star doesn't know what to do with a " they / them " is ...a claim .
Sam is such a beautiful soul, I appreciate her content more than I could ever say 😍 thank you for making me feel valid and seen, sending all the love your way!!!
sam is mentally ill
Thank you for helping in standing up for us NBs! Luv ya, Samantha!
Jeffree is right - it is really stupid
you saying he dont understand non-binary but trans….tells me you smart
For myself, it's like a disconnect.
I don't mind being seen as a woman, I just don't *feel* like one in the inside.
Yes! That’s the right word! All my life I felt a disconnect. I grew up in a friendly atmosphere. Everyone were ok with masculine women (but not feminine boys, that’s sad), so I wasn’t «pushed into being trans». I learned about boys and girls. I knew that I’m not a boy but talking about myself as a girl felt kind of odd.
Now I finally understand what aspects of me cause gender dysphoria and I’m working on them.
I found a style that I like and found out that I feel better when my body is more muscular.
I’m an AFAB person, yet toxic masculinity did me dirty. Now I’m much older and now I know how to express my masculinity in a healthy way.
P.S. I prefer to use such umbrella-term as a genderqueer but I’m more of a non-binary person. Just not really into labeling myself.
6:26 I've never understood why people think kids need a big explanation about gay or trans people, because it's a subject that's more confusing to adults than it is to them. Besides, kids are digital natives, so by age eight, they already know a lot of stuff adults think isn't "appropriate" for them to know. I don't even remember an age when my kids didn't know about gay or trans people. It's never been a big deal.
NON BINARY IS NOT THE SAME AS TRANSGENDER! Stop calling people transphobic who don’t agree with non binary. Please and thank you.
I love you girl, thank you for making this video!
I appreciate this. I'm non-binary and I have been and have been incredibly androgynous since I was a kid. Ever since I was a child people would think I was a boy and it never bothered me. And I have always felt somewhere in between the two. It's always been hard to explain and for a long time, I didn't even have the words for it. I'm also pan and I could never really explain that to others. It is super frustrating to have people tell me that it's not or invalidate me by not even trying to understand. Like they'll tell me well you are dressed like a girl so you can't be non-binary. Or, well you are marrying a man so you can't be pan. I appreciate you talking about this!
So you're a bisexual woman who has internalized homophobia to the point where you make up a new gender because you are not like other girls. Ok.
My brother is the the platonic ideal of masculinity. He's everything that a guy should be with zero of the intildment or lack of empathy. But also means he ask alot of questions about my identity cuz he doesn't understand. And thats ok. I love when he ask me questions!
Questions are ok, as long as you let yourself learn.
Unfortunately we are now in a place that asking questions is labeled bigotry or said to be literal violence a lot of the time.
@@greeneibball36 ya sure? cuz i dont see it.
@@greeneibball36What questions did you ask that got you accused of bigotry?
@@greeneibball36 what questions are you asking my guy?
The Pick-Me types in every community are the worst
Gender and sex are technically different sciences so you wouldn't learn gender ideology from a science class. Likely a psychology or social science class
"that they/them stuff from the pandemic" first time i knowingly met a nonbinary person was in 2016 but okay
For real giving blair white.. scary pipeline. SAM WE LOVE YOU
I remember he was saying in one video that he doesn't care about being called him or her he's just Jeffrey but he knows he's gender non conforming but knows he's a man at the end of the day. He doesn't need to have a label and it's hard to not respect and look up to that because that's what we all strive for right? No being labeled I mean.
@Marithen Animity I wouldn't mind looking it up but can you be more specific of a video to see so I can go directly to what you are referring to. 👍
can i just say that i think the trans and non binary people are really strong, like its amazing how y'all can still be true to yourselves despite all these haters
I’m agender and still experience dysphoria. You are right, Samantha, we may be different but we’re not as different as some people may think.
Jeffree is right. You are mad he doesn’t play into other peoples delusion. Calling someone they/them is just harming the person who’s mentally I’ll enough to identify as that.
I literally spent an entire semester in college in the 80s trying to figure out what to call another person in class in case I had to talk to/about them. They/them is a relief!!!
You needed to use it because you didnt know their gender. Thats the right way to use the pronoun. If youd asked you would have dropped the they/them.
@@OctoMatoe what if that person wanted to be referred to as they/them?
The fast that people still support Jeffree by buying their products is disgusting.
His products*
@@OctoMatoe you can still say their if you aren’t sure of someone’s pronouns 😊
Got in an argument with an online friend over Jefferson Starfish’s bigotry, and the end of it he literally just said “whatever I just don’t care.” He’s also gay which makes it even more infuriating.
Jeffree just mad because all us being comfortable with who we are makes him less special.
Ya know, one day VERY SOON, Jeffree's alligator mouth is gonna get his hummingbird butt into trouble.
"That's why conservatives like me is cause I'm so real". Yeah, he's pushing a political agenda for personal gain. It's clear as day lol.
Another thing is that Jeffrey had known different pronouns before the pandemic...so this definitely is Jeffery wanting attention.
I know it's so infuriating! I stopped watching him a long time ago, but I remember when he said he didn't care what pronouns you used on him. He clearly knew about it because otherwise he would have said 'either one' or something, and this was *long* before the pandemic.
I had my first gay crush at 5 years old. I wish someone would've explained to me at the time what that meant and that it was ok.
hello I am a very real demi-girl who uses she/they or they/ she pronouns and no one understands when I try and explain that I kind of am a girl but also i'm not really. It took me forever to figure it out myself and people like Jeffree just make my life incredibly difficult when I am in a comfortable place and I do't have dysphoria anymore
hello fellow she / they demigirl
@@nicole-rb4iw HIIII!!! I'm excited because sometimes I forget that i'm not the only one and it's fun to be reminded that i'm not
@@Anonymous-tl6tq no u’re def not !! we’re in this together lmao :+)) have a good day anonymous internet stranger
@@nicole-rb4iw thank you and you too! this is the most normal interaction I have ever had with any one online and for sure the nicest.
@@Anonymous-tl6tq omg stop ily best friend
Jeffree Star try not to make an offensively insensitive comeback challenge *[IMPOSSIBLE]*
And also Jeffree isn't non binary because he definitely identifies as a gay man. As someone who upholds my morals on gender identity, I'm not going to strip him of his pronouns just because he may be disagreeable. If he doesn't want neutral pronouns on him, that's the same respect I'm giving others
Wasn't Jeffree at one point "she/he" like he didn't care which he was referred too? I think at this point he's struggling to stay relevant and taking a page from Trisha Paytas' book.
You aren't very accepting of different opinions
"ThEy tHeM iSnT rEaL"
Neither are jeffree's teeth, and yet, he's still flapping those gums
I think 8 is definitely old enough to understand that LGBT people exist in an age appropriate way. 8-year-olds are definitely old enough to understand that people have romantic relationships as adults, just because such relationships are part of most stories, films, songs, games, etc. They aren't going to really understand the bedroom aspects of romantic relationships at that age, but they're old enough to understand that people love each other and want to spend time together/live together/etc, and knowing that 2 men or 2 women can fall in love as well should be part of the conservation at that age. Trans identities can be discussed in a similar age-appropriate way.