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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The Minotauro is a NEW Tier 10 Italian tank destroyer coming to World of Tanks in update 1.18. Here's why it's possibly going to be THE BEST TD!
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Makes op tank, everyone buys gold and boosters to get it as fast as possible. Make millions of dollars, nerf tank. Job done
That's their business model these days
yep. awful company
I think you overestimate people buying gold to get a tank early. Most people I play with already have the free Xp, the crew and the equipment to go straight to the tier 10.
The nerf part is neat, when will it be in the game?
Millions?
this also just shows ones of the biggest issues, heavy tanks and armored TDs having speeds that are just ridiculous. Not just forward speeds but traverse speeds. remember when LTs and Mediums could actually circle heavies? Can't do that anymore.
yeah it’s a lot harder now since heavy vehicles are getting more agile.
Can barely pull it off in an EBR as it’ll either drift and spin out or bounce the shot with its trash cannon
Spot on
and im out there, with my JPZ E100 that is outdated and probably the less fun tank to play at tier 10 ... (and yea im a no-gold user so i can tell you playing this tank sometimes hurts real bad)
@@Aymerikk9 As a F2P player I use the gold ammo and its not gold anymore its credits ammo do not forget it.
The Minotauro is working as intended. It's stats are what you'd expect from a vehicle intended to maximize the premium ammo spam as well as the number of premium tanks sold. The more straightforward part is to make the Minotauro strong to sell more Italian premium TD's. The defensive stats of the Minotauro then seeks to maximize the amount of credits spent by other players, primarily by them wastefully bouncing shots even when they use premium ammo. As a bonus the somewhat weak penetration and lacking accuracy will also cause players using the Minotauro to spend more credits as they will more often have to use premium ammo and miss a fair amount of shots.
This is the sad reality of World of Tanks now - monetization in every possible way. WG's greed could not be any more blatant.
May I add that the Italian Heavy tanks have had a lasting “crappy” feel to them for nearly two years. They can’t go for two and repeat that “yeeesh” release again, so they must come out strong. I also agree this is working as intended.
you cant pen it with gold so whats the point of shooting gold at it. the turret at least.
Oof
Also, the Kran wasn’t nerfed because it was too OP, it was nerfed in order to remove the spotlight status from it. There’s a new kid on the block now and WG wants everyone to turn their attention to the Minatauro, spend their time, their free exp, gold to convert exp, etc. Then, in a month or two, after the grind is over, they’ll “rebalance” it and everyone will agree bc it’s too OP. It makes perfect logical sense to nerf an OP tank . . . like the Kran! It’s a mind trick to get us to spend more time and cash. After this Frontline season, I’m going back to Rdr2 lol.
I think that if they prolong the shell reload time from 2 to 8 seconds, they can add WT auf Pz. E 100 back into the game without any bad feeling
but the wt auf pz e100 doesnt have any armor, the 8s would just make the tank trash.
Every time the tank try to take a shot, the enemy will also be loaded and shoot back, and the wt auf pz e100 doesnt have any armor to help.
I think they way power creep has went they could probably add the original wt e100 and it wouldn't even be that much of a problem, arty spam and intuition changes plus all the armour buffs, it would just be an fv4005 that has to sit out for longer to do the damage where the fv can do 2k in one shot then retreat
I Agree ! Its not an OP broken meta ! The meta is already way too broken ! WT Should enter the game again... and If Wargaming sells it...oh man they will do a ton of money
The wt could go into the game rn and not damage it as much as this tank
Indeed
That shell did go through the turret of the EBR 105, I get that a lot in game.
it didn't . it went right below the back of the turret and right above the front hull. Robinhood shot of rng xD
^
It didn’t though
If you press . you can forward the video frame by frame
Big sad man, hull down td replacing hull down heavy. Got dam
WG: we heard community's opinion so we are nerfing KRV;
Also WG: we add Minotauro to take the role of KRV.
I promise you the reason why WG didn't nerf KRV earlier is that Minotauro was not finished until this patch.
When did the Kran get nerphed?
@@braedynhoward3644 the kran was nerfed in the same public test server that releases the minotauro, its speed is lowered to 45, gun handling is all nerfed so as to make it less accurate, and reload was nerfed to lower its DPM; as to whether or not it makes it to live servers we'll have to see
Who the fuck calls Kranvagn a KRV????
@@Adierit Well crap, I recently got it to have fun. Dang it.
@@stivenstivensson4542 That's how it's called on Chinese server
The frontal armor on this thing is just stupid. I remember the days when the IS-7's turret was the toughest thing in the game. Now, compared to this, it's like the turret of a WT auf E 100.
Not rlly , only strong tds can pen it in pixel spots , just like this tank’s cupola , so its turret remains one of strongest in the game
Wtf are you talking about
The is 7 turret is still better then this thing imagine a is 7 using 10 degrees of gundeprsion
@@mr_babadook_0181 my is7 got penetrated by stb-1 frontally, jagd e100 I say why not but stb. Is7 turret is not that good anymore.
@@Azercharty thats just dumb un less they where above you i do not believe that for a second
The issue with TD matchmaking is actually already here. In tier 8-9-10 match on city map, if your team gets grille 15 and enemy gets E3, you know it's a loss.
That’s why you play the waffle instead.
@@Embur12 yeah but then the comparison is a waffle vs T95
exactly. that's why they should do 2 td classes, Breakthrough TD's and Support TD's
@@phipschi4255 Those classes are already in the game even, no? Matchmaker just needs to match based off of those.
@@phipschi4255 exactly, TD class, or at least MM, should distinguish between different TDs.
First an underpowered Rinonceronte (Rhino), and now an overpowered Minotauro (Minotaur). What's next?
A Balanced Strumtiger kppa
Sheridan missile.
A superfast Elefant
A somewhat balanced yet op looking OF-40 with the name lion maybe?
Russian wheeled super heavy that goes 150
Have they ever introduced a well balanced tank, they ALWAYS get it wrong the first time.
If it always happens then it's intentional. It doesn't take a double digit IQ to compare this tank to its peers. They know what they're doing
The Yo tanks aren't egregious in any way, I think they float 49%-50% WR. Think WG put too much expectation on the reserve tracks being super powerful when they're just not bad.
well, but at least they get it wrong the other way too, like Rhino and Yoh are garbage tanks
Well, it’s not that stupid. Once it comes that OP to the main server, people spends tons of free exp, gold and money to get them. And once when all of the hype goes off they nerf it. Win win situation?
They have but they are always boring, because that's how well balanced vehicles are lol
Minetauro just the better Heavy than the actual Italian Heavy... such overpowered and fun preventing stuff...I hope they do not release the new branch like this
Well from what I hear from Qb is the turret is the weakness of this tank it's semi traversable so flanking will put it in a bad spot
Most of the stuff being played in clan wars in terms of TD's at a competitive level are, e3's, 268/4,strvs. I think like you said td's are extremely situational and with these td's that have been coming out with turrets/heavy armor/ good move speed like the (mino,114 sp2, 268/5) they are maybe making td's more viable and competitive since they can now contest against heavies without being in situational positions.
Playing for one of the top clans on EU server, I can definetly see this one even replacing the Obj 279e in some places, like just to hold positions, sit there in a hulldown and just look if enemy decides to push forwards for the spot while they can't harm you. You dont even have to worry about getting chipped down by -50 dmg per HE shell by chief or 279 as the turret is 300mm frontally. Aside that meta tds for competitive are E3 for ensk rails, sometimes also 268v4 , E4 for ensk and sometimes himmelsdorf and STRV for prokhorovka. This is definetly not something i wanted to see, was super exited for ranked with kran nerfs, but if this is introduced as it is on the CT i feel like there going to be 5 of these per team, sadly.
That's a shit clab
Tilt who?
Ok Boomer
We really don't care in what clan you're in.
ah the racist clan i heard about them
You can't pen this thing even with premium ammo and it has no weak spots. This will not make people spam premium ammo. This will make 10 minute staredowns until one of them lose patience. Imagine two of these both hull down looking at each other. They cannot do anything...
Flank it semi traversable turret has limits
@@xxstephxx1005 Just like you can flank chieftains... The maps are built in a way that it is not possible most of the time. You try to go around you get spanked to death by the time you get there. And it has quite a bit of side turret armour so it can bounce easily. If it is hull down it's like a concrete bunker. So the only thing you can do is wait until they go out of those positions.
@@Eanaro chieftain is way better than this piece of crap, u cant flank chief cuz has full turret and its mobile and faster and has a working gun
@@marcoscuervo2002 I agree, they are better, but this thing isn't a jp e100 either. It has amaizing dpm, good alpha dmg, it's turret is impenetrable and it is relatively mobile for that. You can track it but it will still spank you unless you can completely get behind it. So it is by no means a slow fat turtle which you can get by easily. It's a fricking wall that will punch you hard if you try to go face to face with it. It's good against heavies, td-s, okay against mediums and relatively bad against lights. It doesn't really have any weaknesses close up.
@@Eanaro amazing dmp are u joking? Honesty
Slight error in calculating that "burst DPM". Its actually 3975, since 8 sec = 7.5 ROF X 530. The way you calculated 4900 takes into the equation the theoretical first shot of the first clip and the first shot of the second clip comes out without the intraclip,,,aka instantly after the first clip goes empty.
There is no intraclip after loading the clip, what?
@@MrMakintos This is a theoretical calculation, that shows what kind of dpm the tank has during unloading.
Yes so what QB did is correct because he calculated the burst dpm during the 32 second window of 5 shells the reason why the dpm is actually 4900 is because the first shell you fire has no intraclip so instead of taking 40 seconds for 5 shells it only takes 32. So the ROF during the burst window is actually 9.375 not 7.5.
@@relic9905 The thing is even for other tanks, the DPM formula doesnt take into account that you are already loaded for the first shot. If it did a Badger with 6 s reload would have 5280 DPM.
@@relic9905 So when the timer starts, then the tanks starts loading the first shell, even if in this theoretical situation we take the Minotauros 8s intraclip which doesnt exist before the first shot, but we just wanted to find out whether it has a burst fast enough to live up to the Badgers raw DPM.
Make those two frontal cupolas weaker and maybe shave some armor off the turret I think that would work
Or just flank it
@@xxstephxx1005 because flanking a hull down tank on something like the hill on Hummelsdorf is that simple.
@@xxstephxx1005 Thats map depended and wg makes sure that hulldown tanks are safe when playing hulldown
@@xxstephxx1005 💀 always that one mf
@@xxstephxx1005 'just flank it' is quite a useless advice since alot of the map is corridor based
Given that these tanks have remained unchanged in the 2nd iteration of the test server I am betting on this tank going into the live server in its current state. The nerf to Kran has been nullified because WG is releasing a new Kran into the game the same patch.
QB, you said a couple of times that this tank basically replace Kranvagn, maybe you should compare with it, in additional to it's other TD competitors? Looks like it's armor/firepower (esp pen)/mobility are more comparable to a super HT, instead of TD, except the not fully traverse-able turret.
nothings replacing the kranvagn, it's playing just like it did before without the speed of medium tanks. You should completely disregard QB's opinion of that specific tank in this video as it's exaggerating how much the nerfs effect the kranvagn's performance.
I consider my T110E4 to basically be a heavy tank. It plays just like the old t10 T30 when it was a heavy tank.
E4 is basicly a e100 with 700hp less, and half cut turet
@@alexislegrand181 the E4 gun is so much better than the E100 it shouldnt be compared, but i understand the heavy tank role comparison, in essence the E4 is like a support heavy, you are meant to wait in a corner, to wait till the other enemies shot and then puff, remove 750 from their HP
@@user-cg9yu4gx2q yeah but I mean for support heavy role you better to ether have a good dpm or a magazine, so you can hit more tracks, and finish low hp tanks.
When I played e100 and e4/3 I prefered e100's gun because it has better handling, you have better dispertion on the move so you aim quicker.
Ofc you have a little bit better reload, acuracy (when fully aimed) and pen on the e4, but i don't think 375 to 334 is much of a difference on the spots you can pen reliably.
I sometimes played the e100 as a "tank" role (especialy as a top tier) but I mostly played it as a trader (a shot for a shot).
Against any tank (exept from a lucky fv 183 or jpe100) you will end up in a favorable situation if you trade a shot for a shot simplee because you have a ridiculous amount of hp.
The only sitiation when I think the e4 could be better than the e100 is in a sniping role... but e4 isn't verry good at it.
So I keep saying e4《《《e100
@@user-cg9yu4gx2q but don't get me wrong, e4 is one of the tanks I nerver actually l2p...
And I hate to play power creeped tanks, ans this is one of the reasons why e100 was one of my favorite tanks since I got it ( in 2014? I think)
I actually get a feel of the old T110E4...
Console still has that and a tank called Taran which plays like an SU-130 PM which does 950 alpha and better than 268 V with maxed 13.72 Reload and 4,152 DPM, We have a Crew Skill called Rapid Loading which is an additional Gun Rammer. Also we have an Equipment which is like Intuition but swaps shells instantly without having to reload. OP lol.
@@dgeneratio1 Console has become a freaking joke since 6.0 lol - crazy how far PC and Console have drifted from each other over the last 3-4 years. Haven't played Console in over a year (quit for good last August after 7+ years ) and I haven't looked back. I miss the game terribly but it's pretty much now unplayable for me. I no longer enjoy it. The veteran player community has pretty much collapsed and most of the game's content creators have gone silent or quit the game entirely. There's not much left.
@@jacobsekela8691 Yeah has really changed as got OP Crew Skills as well. Like Camo Net works all the time, Free Rammer in Rapid Loading and all crew skills were improved heavily.
Iron Rain was Derpy before 6.0 (For PC folk that's a Borsig with a 3 round autoloader) but now it's a beast due to accuracy buffs on crew skills.
this vehicle is everything wrong with WG summed up ...
QB:pigeon ate cookies
PIGEON: YOU TRYING TO POISON ME DUDE!!!
Yeah theres a trend of course, T110E5, 430U, 268/4, Kranvagn, VZ 55 now Minotauro is there any doubts ? Its one of the ways to keep players involved (at tier 10 at least) Thats why I barely dont play Tier 10. Its an " OP's tanks online fiesta" Every single tank I mentioned was nerfed a few months after... Guess what its a company tactic OBVIOUSLY !
Typical wg, onto the next op line, untill its nerfed.
6:05 - Why do turrets always turn slower when the hull is being turned at the same time? Does this happen on real tanks too? It really bugs me in game sometimes.
It shouldn't happen in game, but if it does, then that would emulate real life really well.
The problem is with inertia. Objects in motion want to stay in motion, and objects at rest want to stay at rest.
A turret on a tank is at rest. When it starts to turn, it uses a lot of power to turn the turret, because it weighs a lot. Let's say it turns 30 degrees in a second. That means that from a rest, the motors that turn the turret need to start moving, work against the turrets natural tendency to stay still, and get it up to a rotational speed of 30 degrees per second.
But now, let's turn the tank (which for the purpose of simplicity we will also make 30 degrees per second). At the same time, we will turn the turret.
Now, the motors that rotate the turret are essentially now attempting to turn the turret at 60 degrees per second. Obviously I'm no engineer, and I realize that it's not fully doubling the amount of force required, but the amount of force that needs to be applied to the turret is going to increase.
Pick up a 20 pound weight and hold it out to the side. Without moving anything but your shoulder, bring the weight in front of you. You can feel the force in your muscles that is required.
Now, do the same exercise, but as you start to pull your arm forward, turn your body as well.
The force in your shoulder will go up. Additionally, the amount of actual distance you moved the weight will also increase.
That's a basic explanation of the physics behind it. Don't know if that applies in game or not.
@@matthewbrown5228 I really much appreciate it that you took the time to explain it so well. Thank you!
For clanwars: Chieftain. Oh you wanted tank destroyers, we’ll have some more Chieftains.
This tank might be used in CW as an unkillable anchor. Kind of how you could dig in a 279 somewhere to just be annoying and hold. It cannot and will not replace the chief except for in shitcamps. And I honestly dont look forward to breaking minautoro shit camps. Serves the same purpose as a chief except with badger dpm (during the clip) if they are camping
@@lukebedros674 Perhaps, but I see no comp clan running these. 279e will still be better and comp clans actually have access to those.
Shit gun for mid/long range(from what i played), basically a heavy under destroyer skin, I only play in heavy lines, at close range, and hulldown (ofc cringe meta), and average to useless gold and AP pen(but u get op HE) for a TD, very weird Tank
I think they need to move away from the strict vehicle class matchmaking. Match this up with heavy thanks. Match 50b up with mediums.
On a related note, the 12th anniv giveaways was a big letdown. When did WG become a cheapskate?
Was there ever an anniversary which didnt suck compete ass? Just look at what they did to the 10y ann. Absolutely buttfuck nothing except some skin for t30.
I thought we would get bonds and a nice free mid tier premium, it’s real garbage this year
Year after year has been like that, the giveaways become less and less. You'd think that for however long the game has continued operation we'd get some cool prize for our loyal patronage but no, the longer youve been playing this game the more insignificant you are to WG. they just dont care about their player base.
Even if it is power creep at least is a line tank so everyone can get it
WG will not nerf this, the VZ55 was also OP in the Tests and it was also released with its 2s intraclip on the topgun and they didn't touch it...
Another broken piece of sh*t tank
Even just watching, this tank feels quite nice with the reloads compared to the traditional TD. That full reload feels the same as a normal TD’s does. It feels more flexible.
Have fun being constantly flanked when your team gets crushed on a flank and you are getting shot in the butt so you gotta turn completely around with semi traversable turret
@@xxstephxx1005 that’s true but it’s the same case for the T110E4, FV215B 183, and the like. It’s a TD with burst damage into an average reload
You killed me with your pigeon and cookie talk 🤣
I need a full length video of Qb ranting about pigeons
Nice to see I DON'T need to come back to WoT anytime soon. I don't care how much it sucks for one game arty is needed to help take down a beast like this. I know some like the Hull Down meta that's been in the game for a while, I don't. I want a more dynamic game that moves around and rewards plays rather than punishing mistakes
Don't need to, I presume?
@@g.d.graham2446 yeah was in a hurry... always read it back lol
This thing just makes every 'ever been' meta tank a joke, still cannot beleive they will release something like this in the live server. I might park them game for a while, it will be no fun in other tanks to play against this and also it could not be such an enjoyable ride even to play with this against 5 of yourself. Just bonkers WG. Thanks for thoughtfully spending my money on good content, you are doing it wrong!
They nerfed,and then removed the WF for being OP and then they introduced so many OP tanks that hurt the game along with some bad players that use thouse tanks. Bring back the WF!
Bring it back!
WG "working hard" to nerf the Kranvagn only to introduce this...
That paintjob is amazing
In clan wars Strv is also used. Maybe occasionally a 268/4 because of its speed and armor.
this should have just been called the Italian heavy tank line
battle starts at 15:45
Am I the only one that likes op tech tree tanks? We can actually compete against chiefs and 279es
The lower plate can be made impervious if you drive your rear up something, like a defender.
Realy
But you expose your turret roof by doing that, which is only 30mm and thus an autopen for everything. The Defender has 55mm turret roof, it can do that, the Minotauro can't.
Not that you need to do it in the Minotauro though... it is basically the child of a badger and a 279e. It is the ultimate tank to grind out the enemy in city fights, since they basically can't do anything to you when you hide the lower plate behind a pile of rubble...
@@Xelianow in the moment, not many do that, they still get baited into the lower.
This is a throwback to the Original Foch 155, 2550 damage magazine in three rounds, but a relatively long intraclip reload. They almost copy and pasted that tank into the game with 5 rounds instead and lower alpha
Except f155 is never well armored even in its prime time :(
This thing has a turret and much better armor
Finally someone mentions the possibility that WG might put very strong tanks into the game on purpose to get people to grind them, knowing they are hurting the game and that they will eventually nerv them. I really hope this is just one that slipped the balancing department and not WG doing this intentionally.
Let’s wait how it gets released on the live server before complaining. I hope they rebalance the minotauro before releasing it. Thx for the great video QB!
Nobody gonna talk about how if this thing is sidescraping you can just shoot it in the engine just like the e4 thats a huge weakness?
Bond turbo, durability module, and spall liner would make this tank a real meme
What about grousers, binoculars and spall liner?
After 8+ years of playing this game, even competitively, I'm glad that I quit and uninstalled it.
I'm not saying War Thunder doesn't have bias and P2W tactics, but it's no where near as bad as WoT.
Great. Another nearly impenetrable tank (TD) spamming gold... thanks WoT get that gold
Turret armor is fine, not everything needs to be penetratable. However this tanks needs a huge nerf in speed, it shouldn't be really that much faster than a Badger/T110E3. Plus, nerf the viewrange. Super heavy tanks should not be able to spot for themselves (with that regard actually all high tier tanks need a view range nerf to make light tanks relevant again). And nerf the velocity of the ammunition, I bet WG only made it so high because there are so many crybabies who complain about wheeled light tanks.
the problem with that concept is that if you have a tomato light tank, and the enemy team has a unicum light tank, the game is already decided on open maps. The team with the light still alive (unicum player), will have full vision superiority and the other team will lose if they are unable to spot for themselves. Light tanks are still extremely playable because of their camo and not so much their view range. With everyones view range being the same, the tank with the most camo can get the closest and outspot the other team. I agree with your other points though. If they made this 10kph slower with worse ground resistance, it could actually be balanced. Yes, it can still hold a corner by itself but can be outplayed and outpositioned easily
@@lukebedros674 true what you say about light tanks. Recently lost a game because of exactly that, we had a really bad light tank player who basically did nothing while the enemy one spotted basically one complete side for his team and enabled them to push completely through.
This is why I think there really should be a rough skill-based mm in place to prevent that. At least in tier X, at that tier games are way often more polarized than at other tiers.
Quite a thoughtful review. As a big fan of the T1104 I think I'm really going to like this tank, especially the combination of mobility + HE.
Perhaps they should remove a shell from the magazine so that the magazine potential does not allow it to kill almost any tier X tank.
This would lower its DPM and make it more vulnerable when isolated.
Also, that shell velocity is riduclous, it doesn't make sense for such a gun.
Same for the turret traverse speed, it's able to catch up with a EBR.
This tank has a blaring weakness which is the sides and the semi traversable turret meaning it will easily be out matched if not protected by 2-3 other tanks
@@xxstephxx1005 you mean like almost all tier X TDs, but here with good armour and a 5 rounds autoloader and good turret traverse ? Terrible weakness indeed...
Actually, the reloading makes intuition useless, meaning making players to shot gold more.
Nice next power creep monster, i was already worried that it took so long.
this tanks seems more of a hybrid between heavy and TD
What are the odds that the Kran nerf coinciding with the Mino being introduced is not a coincidence? WG isn't interested in balancing the game, it's only interested in people spending cash to get to the next meta vehicle as quickly as possible. WoT is essentially a hugely successful scam, and I don't get why people keep giving WG money to get screwed over.
when a minotauro vs minotauro , its two God sparring each other seeing whos gonna except death First
Extreme armor ✅
Microscopic weakspots ✅
Nonsensical gun depression ✅
Magic mobility ✅
Autoloader ✅
High alpha autoloader ✅
Heavily encouraged to spam premium ✅
Nah, that TD will come out as is, everyone will rush to get one and spend lots of cash to get there. Then WG will nerf it in 6 months and it will return to its rightful place among other tds. WG has been doing this for years, why would they change a working formula?
This thing is basically a prototype M1 Abrams or Leo2 with an outdated turret.
This thing can't even pen itself frontally. Even the legendary HEAT on the Jpz E100 will struggle to pen this thing frontally.
Arty will have a field day dropping on all that green though.
Especially since there has been an increase with how many arty have been put in matches
Theyre restricting how many arties can usually play in a single match so yeah
So they Nerf one machine that is intended to suck up as much gold ammunition as possible and replace it with a different machine that you have to pay for and sucks up as much gold ammunition as possible. There are many reasons I stopped playing world of tanks this would add to those reasons.
Yet again Wargaming just proves to me why I should not come back to this game. It's meta is ina worse state than WOWs, they don't address the real problems and make the game pay to win fustation
This looks like a perfect tank for sweaty players. And that's the reason why it will have a high winrate. It will be only played by players with 53%> wr.
False, the reason it will have a high win rate after everyone has a chance to grind it is because the bad players will also be able to do well in it. It doesn’t require thinking. The good players will do well in every tank. It’s the bad players that determine and prop up or drag down the win ratios
The only hope is that this is a tech tree tank and it’s actually nerf-able, unlike something like the t34 85M
Wings in the cookie jar? Love it! As always QB, informative and entertaining. Thanks!
This tank terrifies me
I have 1000 hours in this game, haven't played for 2 years because they started making it a kiddy game joke.
To be fair, tanks like the E4, T30 and 268v5 already blur the line of td and heavy, but this isn't exactly doing that line any favors
Imean the t30 is just a t29 with a 155mm gun.
Its the exact same turret lol
Then after player racing got this tank wg nerf again that tank. 7 year of player wot im getting more boring this game maybe this time i stop playing.
If they just nerf the alpha, nerf every single mobility stat, and nerf the camo, then I'd be fine with it. But as it is right now, jeez. 279e looks downright lackluster.
biggest plot twist kran nerfed, invent a new italian kranvagn which is even more broken.
This game needs tier 11 -12, for this tank, the Obj 279, the Chief, ... These tanks cant see tier 8 and 9.
this Tank needs less armor or worse disperson, this is too powerful, i dont want a Matchmaking full of Minotauros
Wonder if this thing we’ll be as crazy op as the obj 268 v4 was when it first came into the game and wasn’t nerfed...🤔
Didn't we have the same situation with the original Bobjekt 268 v 4?
And this thing is even more nuts than that was back then.
It's insane how they (WG) keep doing these things.
Also, it took them 7-9 months to nerf the Bobjekt.
I do not understand the balancing of this tank, back then something like this would have the old t95 speed
WG: we hear you loud and clear, you guys hate invincible turret meta so we nerf the Swedish heavy!
Also WG: here's your brand new Italian TD with strong turret just like chieftain!! now everyone go get your free exp and credit to buy this bridge line beast! Oh don't forgot about the Xmas box, we put the new prieum T8 Italian TD in the loot box so you can pay us 100$USD... I mean train your crew faster!
Lmao 3000 DPM on a high alfa autoloader XD Woe to the people who still play this game.
I'm at least glad that this tank is as weak in a rush as it's strong in a corridor fight. Seeing QB and all his friends gang up on one Minotauro, and seeing how quickly it wilted cements it for me. Simply put, this tank can't react quickly or repel anything quickly. The intraclip reload is too slow for it to properly defend itself against an organized charge, and the weak side armor means that as soon as it gets ganged up on, it's toast.
This tank is simply an important tank to gang up on, or escort. Keep its sides safe if it's on your team, or rush it with at least another friend if it's alone.
And how fast sides of the map get out flanked this thing is gonna have a hard time
Just say this damn tank is fucking OP broken...it blends well with the rest of the broken game. So let's spend a years worth of XP grinding and millions of credits to get it b4 it's too late and WG nerf's it in 2 months.
This is tier 11.2 stuff. The t9 of the line had stats to be well above average at tier 10, enough to get tons of players. This is a reason to quit the game.
Basically a WT auf E100 with more intraclip reload and armor, gg Wargaming
Holy crap,what happened with having slow , but more armored TD´s or fast but no armored TD´s , you just cant have both the armor and the mobility
then its another dead line that makes them no money.
I don't even care about their tens anymore I only play ther 8 why waste all in credits
Sounds like typical Wargaming, 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
I don’t want to see this monster in the game as it is, it’s too strong and will destroy matchmaking entirely. I won’t bother playing T10s at all if it’s like this, hell, I might just stay at T7 to avoid it entirely.
brAavo stay at tier VII and posibly plòay only arta. We wont miss you
Ah yes a TD with impenetrable turret even the Jageroo and the old Object 268 (450 HEAT) have a hard time penetrate that turret ...
(I miss the old HE mechanic ....)
I didn't play for few months and logged in to check what's going on and someone hacked my 10 years old account, sold most of the premium and normal tanks. sold all reserve. And not sure what they did with silver as its all gone. Hopefully Wargaming can recover it :(
The Maus or Type 5 should have a Minotauro like frontal armor 🙄
Honestly it should been turretless. Make it behave like a badger with a autoloader.
Dont play this game. It is fucked up by Wargaming.
i think we need tier11 tanks with somehow limited battles per day
What was QB doing un Mexico? XD
Drug mule.
Waffle e100 with armour and better mobility what could go wrong
How do you get that Roman Shield camo?