Other guns that were removed: - OTs-14 (Later split up into the GROZA-1 and GROZA-4) - MP5KA4 (Burst MP5K) - MP5SD5 (Burst MP5SD) The SVK12E was a simple semi AK12 DMR at one point, the Burst was added later. The PPK12 at first was a fully auto secondary pocket AR added alongside the SAIGA-12U, which later was reworked into a PDW, made to fire 9x19mm and a Burst. In the CTE period, the Deagle .44 and .50 were moved to Revolvers which was rebranded to "Magnums" because the MP412 REX was the only revolver in the game at that time. The APS was indeed the underwater AK, but with a very lazy model and locked at Rank 999. The OICW was a whole different gun with a placeholder G36C model which I cannot really talk much about because I barely know about it.
the OICW was a gun that basically a gun that had a built in under barrel grenade launcher, it was bulky and was later split into the XM8 modular assault rifle and the the XM25 grenade launcher
About the MP5A4, for the MP5 in the “Other” section there is a mod. Called “Burst grouping” that makes it like MP5A4 (without reduced damage) Edit: its also on MP5SD, MP5K, MP5/10 and MP10
I would add another lmg probably the pkm, m249 or m240b but i think the m240b could be the best choice to add because of the weight of the gun. Could make it like the NTW to shoot only if crouched or prone with high damage and slow reload/ movement speed.
Out of these, I'd definitely add the SVK12E back, even if it were just an AK12BR conversion or something. The playstyle would be interesting to test out especially if it had hyperburst XD If I were to add any gun though, it'd be the EM-2 Jansen rifle, basically the grandfather of the SA80 series, a battle rifle from 1951 featuring a 20rnd mag, chambered in .303 British. The rifle has a flapper-lock bolt system similar to that of the German G43, allowing it to automatically chamber a new round when inserting a mag from an open bolt. Super cool, punchy, high damage and recoil, and with a cool integral scope and backup iron.
I would love to have SVK12E re-added (if that's ever possible). I had used it years back, and, like the M4, i don't like Burst, until I began to love that weapon. that would be first DMR to have Burst (excluding VSS as that DMR has only Semi & Auto, whereas the SVK, only has burst, nothing else)
I have a very funny meme ammo idea that revolves around the flash bang grenades that were previously in the game. Zvezda Shells for the KS23. Essentially when you shoot a target it’ll completely blind them but at the same time it will do no damage. It will allow for some hilarious plays and also would be the weapon of chaos
The difference in real life between the MG42 and the MG3 is the caliber. The MG42 used 7.92 and the MG3 now uses the NATO standard 7.62 caliber rounds. And yes, the Germans still use basically the exact same machine gun as their evil predecessors used.
Surprised to see how many people forgot about the og ppk12. It was originally a secondary other. It was auto with a 20 round mag then it became semi then turned into the smg version.
I remember MG42. It had like 1600 firerate and had stupid amount of damage. Good thing it wasn’t added. I really hope that they add back SVK at least as a conversion, maybe OICW. I also hope to see XM-8 and F2000 one day.
Sten was acually a real weapon wich was used by germans and it was basicly a modified Sten Gun from the british army but sadly these modified ones are either scrapped or are lost in a place so idk if they survived the war (like few examples of the modified ones) or they werent used in the war as mutch than anything else that they had
I originally had a part of the script where I talked about the sten clone used by the Germans that they made vertical but it got too wordy; honestly I'd love to see more crude / unpolished weapons like that in game
The APS AK was actually a gun for Russian frogmen (millitary divers) and it shoot these long spear like bullets and that’s why it has so little damage because the bullet was meant to Pearce wet suits and not body armor
I have the helmet in my Roblox inventory that you would get for unlocking the vault in the Luna map. I miss old pf (more specific the old sounds like the glass break and the Aug a1 sound)
When he mentioned the mg42 my eyes lit up because I remember how much fun I had with it when it was in the test place and it is very sad to see it was never added to the main game because then we can actually do accurate Normandy beach storming if it was added
I thought it was cool in the test place, however it really wasn't that different from the MG3 in terms of gameplay to where it maybe would be better to add it as a conversion or something later to the MG3. Though I'll say idk why they changed their mind on that, but not any of the 15 different types of M4s in the game
For those that dont know, the AK-50 is an actual thing, youtuber Brandon Herrera has made a fully functional ak chambered in 50 beowulf, and has been working on one chambered in 50 bmg for years now. The beowulf ak was dubbed the AK-50 Lite. I would recommend checking out Brandons channel if you are interested, he's a cool dude.
I would love that the Mk47 (In-between the AK74 and the AKM since its a 20 lvl difference) to come in PF as its literally has a 7.62 round but a high fire rate AR and I do wish I could play the OICW again as it was fun to use although very goofy gun to look at although I would say the older stats of the G36C or OICW back then, is better than the current.
Doing a little more research and I found a trivia about the mg42 and the ak15. For the mg42 I heard that it was change to be a developer weapon. For the ak15, it actually have a successor in the form of the ak12br, since both share similar stats Edit: the OICW is also an actual gun. It's a some kind of prototype AR that is really weird but futuristic looking, and trust me it looks nothing like the g36c
@@stromyepd6717 The grenade launcher part fires airburst grenades that can be set to detonate at certain distance, or behind a wall. It's the XM25, which is an absloute menace in BF4.
4:17 JHP means Jacketed Hollow Point it was made to have a little penetration (even if not much) while still being able to rip flesh after the jacket disposed
The kalashnikov firearms are mostly named after the year they were designed, not the caliber at all. AK50 would be the equivalent of an AKM since it was designed in 1949
I knew i was missing something, I played pf back then and used the ak15, when i returned during the actual release i was so confused why the ak12 isnt as good as it was before release
i was there in the base luna map, i remember the railgun, and also when a dude fucking spawned in a fully enclosed room that had a railgun lmfao (almost) my entire team got stuck in there xD
You should see the PF wiki's community. It's pretty nice nowadays but extremely sparse. I have a series of posts going where I build PF guns out of lego.
About the Alpha PF Sten, or Sten MK3 as it was originally called, you actually held it sideways for some weird reason so the model is correct, it was wacky but my favorite gun back in the alpha, that thing had somewhat bouncy recoil but it bounced quick enough that it just came back to the exact same point as it was before the shot, pretty much laser beam with just camera recoil but no actual one. (holy damn, just realised that was 2015, fuck i've been playing this for far too long, that was 7 years ago like what the hell).
So uhm about Ak15, there’s Ak12C which is 7.62x39mm, decent recoil And the comically large sten is essentially L2A3 with eotech xps2 that has hello duct tape on it Plus if you want the og Classic PPK12, use Aku12 with 9mm
What's funny is that a youtuber named Brandon Herrara has made a AK 50 lite with .50 beowolf and is now making a .50 BMG AK12 looking thing called the AK 50
hey I think the JHP conversion for the mp5a4 might stand for jacketed hollow points rather than the generic hollow point term. I just realised it while watching so just wanted to let you know
Through out all the additions of the rifles, smg,shotguns, lmg stylis has STILL not manage to add the m1 garand except gave us a vietnam ditched rifle that wasn't even the latest battle rifle used by military to date and an old springfield rifle that has a weird iron sight
I'm surprised about both the m1 Garand and the m249 not making an appearance. There's really a lack of LMGs compared to everything else and it's kinda disappointing 😩
Never say never; everything old becomes new again. Crafting this video took time, but it is impressive and inspiring. These guns will return.. will return.
Subscribe pls, I spent super long on this
I already did 3 years ago when you just played ar 1 and passed to ar 2
I shall not subscribe for I, Red, have already been subscribed for over a year.
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how do you get thet sticker.
They took so long to add the c7a2 like 5 years after they alpha 💀
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Other guns that were removed:
- OTs-14 (Later split up into the GROZA-1 and GROZA-4)
- MP5KA4 (Burst MP5K)
- MP5SD5 (Burst MP5SD)
The SVK12E was a simple semi AK12 DMR at one point, the Burst was added later.
The PPK12 at first was a fully auto secondary pocket AR added alongside the SAIGA-12U, which later was reworked into a PDW, made to fire 9x19mm and a Burst.
In the CTE period, the Deagle .44 and .50 were moved to Revolvers which was rebranded to "Magnums" because the MP412 REX was the only revolver in the game at that time.
The APS was indeed the underwater AK, but with a very lazy model and locked at Rank 999.
The OICW was a whole different gun with a placeholder G36C model which I cannot really talk much about because I barely know about it.
MSR was replaced by the L115A1 as they literally had the same exact stats
The mp5sd is in the game somewhere dunno what makes it
the OICW was a gun that basically a gun that had a built in under barrel grenade launcher, it was bulky and was later split into the XM8 modular assault rifle and the the XM25 grenade launcher
@@aviationautist iirc it later became the project for the g36 rifle, hence the g36 model in game
3:43 Funnily enough, when you put on an eotech on the l2a3 in the main game, it gets attached with a spongebob tape as a reference to the sten gun.
The mg42 also had a light bolt attachment that would increase rpm. Combined with muzzle booster it would empty the mag in under 2 seconds.
how much dps? lmao
@@shawnlee1862 Yes
About the MP5A4, for the MP5 in the “Other” section there is a mod. Called “Burst grouping” that makes it like MP5A4 (without reduced damage)
Edit: its also on MP5SD, MP5K, MP5/10 and MP10
If we got the ak50 but actually a 50 caliber round we would need to introduce Brandon to this game
I am working on my own fps game, and I am modelling the guns for it. I cannot agree more that the older guns have a charm to them.
I would add another lmg probably the pkm, m249 or m240b but i think the m240b could be the best choice to add because of the weight of the gun. Could make it like the NTW to shoot only if crouched or prone with high damage and slow reload/ movement speed.
i would prefer the m249 since most lmgs arent belt fed
M240 is also belt fed lol. So is the PKM
@@ranehan7726 ok cool. dont think they would add another ak tho
imagine .22lr lmg like mgv
@@youmumyon1880 they are adding 22lr to aug hbar
JHP stands for Jacketed Hollow Point - a hollow point cartridge with a jacket so it can still penetrate armor.
Wow that’s actually cool
Out of these, I'd definitely add the SVK12E back, even if it were just an AK12BR conversion or something. The playstyle would be interesting to test out especially if it had hyperburst XD If I were to add any gun though, it'd be the EM-2 Jansen rifle, basically the grandfather of the SA80 series, a battle rifle from 1951 featuring a 20rnd mag, chambered in .303 British. The rifle has a flapper-lock bolt system similar to that of the German G43, allowing it to automatically chamber a new round when inserting a mag from an open bolt. Super cool, punchy, high damage and recoil, and with a cool integral scope and backup iron.
I would love to have SVK12E re-added (if that's ever possible). I had used it years back, and, like the M4, i don't like Burst, until I began to love that weapon. that would be first DMR to have Burst (excluding VSS as that DMR has only Semi & Auto, whereas the SVK, only has burst, nothing else)
I have a very funny meme ammo idea that revolves around the flash bang grenades that were previously in the game. Zvezda Shells for the KS23. Essentially when you shoot a target it’ll completely blind them but at the same time it will do no damage. It will allow for some hilarious plays and also would be the weapon of chaos
this is arguably one of your more interesting videos, i'd love to see these being added back at some point...
“These guns are gone forever…”
All the fortnite kids:
*ZAPATRON*
90% of children had no clue what Fortnite even was at that time
the deagle 50 wasn’t a revolver for long back in the CTE, i used it often and it was definitely right under the deagle 44
The difference in real life between the MG42 and the MG3 is the caliber. The MG42 used 7.92 and the MG3 now uses the NATO standard 7.62 caliber rounds. And yes, the Germans still use basically the exact same machine gun as their evil predecessors used.
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@@slobberknocker7944 shut the hell up, cheerah man is speaking facts
until they didn't und 'upgraded' to the MG5 (HK121) using 5.56
MG5 use 7.62, the one that use 5.56 is MG4
Man I miss OG phantom. I joined day one after playing Call of robloxia, and remember all these old deleted guns.
Surprised to see how many people forgot about the og ppk12. It was originally a secondary other. It was auto with a 20 round mag then it became semi then turned into the smg version.
I wouldnt bring a gun back, I would bring the space maps back. They are my childhood nostalgia.
I remember base Luna. It was for the rogue one update in 2016
I subbed to you a few minutes ago, like 20 seconds later you uploaded yet another sick vid
I remember MG42. It had like 1600 firerate and had stupid amount of damage. Good thing it wasn’t added.
I really hope that they add back SVK at least as a conversion, maybe OICW. I also hope to see XM-8 and F2000 one day.
faster reload at the same time too it was like 180 rank or something mg42
Like a ship builder teaches their workers to long for the immensity of the sea, Steven teaches gamers to enjoy gaming more and more.
I would add a rpg-7, but it has 1 rocket. I wouldn’t make it any gun type, I would put it in the grenade category
Nice vid, like the style of it
Sten was acually a real weapon wich was used by germans and it was basicly a modified Sten Gun from the british army but sadly these modified ones are either scrapped or are lost in a place so idk if they survived the war (like few examples of the modified ones) or they werent used in the war as mutch than anything else that they had
I originally had a part of the script where I talked about the sten clone used by the Germans that they made vertical but it got too wordy; honestly I'd love to see more crude / unpolished weapons like that in game
god that old PF loadout screen. the game was so wild back then, i miss it
JHP likely stood for jacketed hollow point, which was later shortened to just hollow point
Just use .17 on m107 and you have railgun with out one shot torso
5:02 i actually got to use the railgun a couple days ago cause a admin asked if anyone wanted to use it and i got to it was pretty cool
Only OGs remember the l115a3
I missed the lunar map it was so fun to just jump really high and wack players with a melee. Good times
Your actually the goat, This helped so much thank you.
The APS AK was actually a gun for Russian frogmen (millitary divers) and it shoot these long spear like bullets and that’s why it has so little damage because the bullet was meant to Pearce wet suits and not body armor
I have the helmet in my Roblox inventory that you would get for unlocking the vault in the Luna map. I miss old pf (more specific the old sounds like the glass break and the Aug a1 sound)
When he mentioned the mg42 my eyes lit up because I remember how much fun I had with it when it was in the test place and it is very sad to see it was never added to the main game because then we can actually do accurate Normandy beach storming if it was added
I thought it was cool in the test place, however it really wasn't that different from the MG3 in terms of gameplay to where it maybe would be better to add it as a conversion or something later to the MG3. Though I'll say idk why they changed their mind on that, but not any of the 15 different types of M4s in the game
@@SomeSteven because stylis
The airport map at 1:08 was so fun to play on, massive shame it was never added
For those that dont know, the AK-50 is an actual thing, youtuber Brandon Herrera has made a fully functional ak chambered in 50 beowulf, and has been working on one chambered in 50 bmg for years now. The beowulf ak was dubbed the AK-50 Lite. I would recommend checking out Brandons channel if you are interested, he's a cool dude.
sees AK-50
*laughs in Brandon Herrera*
I would love that the Mk47 (In-between the AK74 and the AKM since its a 20 lvl difference) to come in PF as its literally has a 7.62 round but a high fire rate AR and I do wish I could play the OICW again as it was fun to use although very goofy gun to look at although I would say the older stats of the G36C or OICW back then, is better than the current.
Id really like to see an 5v5 or an 4v4 in phantom forces with the flashes and smoke granades
i met with a mod 2 days ago and he was using the railgun and his friend or some other mod used the gold hb416 or whatever that funny lmg is called
State of Anarchy has the Underwater AK's rounds, 5.66x120. I don't know if SoA has the AK as well but I can hope.
Doing a little more research and I found a trivia about the mg42 and the ak15. For the mg42 I heard that it was change to be a developer weapon. For the ak15, it actually have a successor in the form of the ak12br, since both share similar stats Edit: the OICW is also an actual gun. It's a some kind of prototype AR that is really weird but futuristic looking, and trust me it looks nothing like the g36c
Ah okay so they must have just been using the G36C as a placeholder model, gotchu
looked into the oicw rifle and its just 2 guns weilded together (one 5.56 and 2nd one nade launcher) but it looks like mx8 wich isnt in a main game
@@stromyepd6717 The grenade launcher part fires airburst grenades that can be set to detonate at certain distance, or behind a wall.
It's the XM25, which is an absloute menace in BF4.
the railgun is like the bfg but ntw and i saw someone with it
The MG42 would be cool in phantom forces if they add a 100 round drum magazine along side with the MG3KWS
bro what was that deagle setup at the last part lmaooo
4:17 JHP means Jacketed Hollow Point it was made to have a little penetration (even if not much) while still being able to rip flesh after the jacket disposed
might also consider the svk12e because i have like 230 kills on the an 94
and a new m60 model
you could actually see the SVK12E on the wall of the old lobby, always wondered why it was there
The kalashnikov firearms are mostly named after the year they were designed, not the caliber at all. AK50 would be the equivalent of an AKM since it was designed in 1949
I knew i was missing something, I played pf back then and used the ak15, when i returned during the actual release i was so confused why the ak12 isnt as good as it was before release
You forgot about the Gold Hawk but good luck finding anything on it i've only ever used it a couple of times
i was there in the base luna map, i remember the railgun, and also when a dude fucking spawned in a fully enclosed room that had a railgun lmfao (almost) my entire team got stuck in there xD
the MSR has a gameplay video of it, albeit on Lost Media hell. I don't know if UA-cam removed it or OP decided to unlist it.
I just wanna see the MPX and the MCX into the game. Upgradable to almost Assult Rifle Varients. Low Damage, okay firerate, but low recoil.
i've used it pretty recently i got the honor of having a mod in the server i killed and got the reward of the rail gun very fun on normal servers
You should see the PF wiki's community. It's pretty nice nowadays but extremely sparse. I have a series of posts going where I build PF guns out of lego.
The “ JHP Rounds “ is jolt hard point rounds
The APS is an underwater gun for scientists
Also if you want to see more CTE Footage, then AgentJohn2 has a bunch of it on his archive. Check him out!
0:04 real PH og’s remember this menu. So many memories
There is footage of the original c7a2 on Lito’s channel, It’s in phantom forces update video 9!
Stylish Studio is never back at disappointing us
I'd want a Sig MCX Spear and a Galil but P08 sounds good
the old model of the c7a2 is what it looks like on the ground
Rail gun just be looking fire
About the Alpha PF Sten, or Sten MK3 as it was originally called, you actually held it sideways for some weird reason so the model is correct, it was wacky but my favorite gun back in the alpha, that thing had somewhat bouncy recoil but it bounced quick enough that it just came back to the exact same point as it was before the shot, pretty much laser beam with just camera recoil but no actual one.
(holy damn, just realised that was 2015, fuck i've been playing this for far too long, that was 7 years ago like what the hell).
Imagine they make a toy soldier as a equipment
Bruh I want those real events and especially event maps again
Hope they add another ak50 for when Brandon Herera and his team finish working on it
the APS was a Soviet era underwater assault rifle.
APS is an underwater assault rifle, so no wonder about dmg
I love that one guy spinning after killing you lol
brother?
i remember having access to the svk12e but that was on a old main account that soon got deleted for who knows what reason
I just really want a WW2 update
meaning SVT-40, G43, K98k, PPS, Tokerrv TT33, Lee enfield, Bren and a whole bunch more
What I want added are Sig Sauer pistols. Kinda strange we don't have one yet. HK and Beretta pistols too.
Ah yes, P250 time
old m82 looks like the barrel is shorter unless thats just me
the aps isnt an airsoft gun its actually an underwater assualt rifle primarily used by russian frogmen
ih nvm i take it back you already mentioned it
So uhm about Ak15, there’s Ak12C which is 7.62x39mm, decent recoil
And the comically large sten is essentially L2A3 with eotech xps2 that has hello duct tape on it
Plus if you want the og Classic PPK12, use Aku12 with 9mm
I actually somewhat remember the old grenades!
Fun fact: the AK15 exists ingame (kinda), its the AK12C they look the same (but 1 is yellow) and they both are in 7.62
Just a little info I decided to drop in: The mg42 is now a mod weapon iirc
Aps would break out of water when shot wich is probably why they removed it.
Been killed by the railgun a couple times, although the player using it was an SCL player.
"Guess who back, back again"
- MG42 april 2023
They should really flesh out the other weapon categories like LMGs and Snipers. Kind of stupid there is like double the ARs that there are LMGs.
Be like a river. Allow, adapt and keep flowing on.
The bonus clip was funny
What's funny is that a youtuber named Brandon Herrara has made a AK 50 lite with .50 beowolf and is now making a .50 BMG AK12 looking thing called the AK 50
hey I think the JHP conversion for the mp5a4 might stand for jacketed hollow points rather than the generic hollow point term. I just realised it while watching so just wanted to let you know
8:10 probably because the deagle is a revolver irl
Through out all the additions of the rifles, smg,shotguns, lmg stylis has STILL not manage to add the m1 garand except gave us a vietnam ditched rifle that wasn't even the latest battle rifle used by military to date and an old springfield rifle that has a weird iron sight
I'm surprised about both the m1 Garand and the m249 not making an appearance. There's really a lack of LMGs compared to everything else and it's kinda disappointing 😩
@@SomeSteven Also the revolver category.
In the l2a3 you can get that SpongeBob thing, its actually a tape, u get it by putting eotech xps2 i believe
My personal favorite removed gun is the AR-15/50. Mostly because I’m a simp for .50 Beowulf
Yo @Somesteven in the test place M4a1 is getting a recoil system test and Ak12 skin demo i hope you can check it out and tell whats your opinion on it
3:42
THE ORIGIN.
THE ORIGIN OF THE CHEESE TAPE!
I would add conversation for BFG50 that will change fire sound to VINE BOOM
Never say never; everything old becomes new again. Crafting this video took time, but it is impressive and inspiring. These guns will return.. will return.