Yesterday I played a Spitfire as you said, in a support role, managed to bring low 3 Bf 109s and had them burn their energy on me for quite the time, managed to dodge every attack, but sadly no teammate really came to my aid, as I was spamming for cover and eventually one of the bf 109s got on my 6 and shot me down. All I wanted to say is, thank you for showing me the true potential of the spitfires dude.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Well it was serious lol, I really managed to see where the spitfire shines, but with no adequate team to shoot the baited enemy down you really are left to your enemy's mercy if you can't get your guns on him on time.
@@AdamTheEnginerd understandable. It might come back around Christmas time. I cant suggest it enough however. It gets most of the benefits of the P-38 series and gets premium status as well. Super good for grinding out aircraft.
@@AdamTheEnginerd oh and also I wanted to ask what do you think about japanese N1K1/N1K2s? I know they were recently moved from 6.3 to 6.0 but I don't know if they are good.
Datamine, use these instructions to get the files for yourself: www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/8nq70p/tutorial_how_to_datamine_or_how_i_learned_to_stop/ Thanks, I will!
@@AdamTheEnginerd but a dual engine fighter isn´t fast at low alt too? I see the same problem in F6F´s. They can´t outperform japanese planes and it was very different in the war. I refuse to accept War Thunder FM´s as accurate due to buffs and nerfs all the time.
@@nando_br Try to prove they are inaccurate. In my opinion they are pretty good. Thing is, war and ET are different and put emphasis on different aspects of performance.
@@AdamTheEnginerd what do u tell me about buffs and nerfs all the time? Why the same planes are totally different in simulators like DCS and IL2 ( a Gaijin simulator)?
Great video bro! You are definitely one of the best Pilots I've seen and content creator. I've had the pleasure of fighting with you and against you many times in the past. Question. I used to always see you flying with your squad in the P51 at br 5.0...At the time I think you said it was your favorite. Have your feelings changed towards this plane and if so what is your favorite American airplane. Thanks for the great videos
Thanks bro! Yeah that must have been years ago. I've only played it a handful of times in the last year. My feelings have changed because of the nerf to the rudder at high speed, and high speed control was one of its strengths so... Now it's F4U4B ;). My pleasure!
@0:32 You can climb better with combat flaps?! The drag doesn't matter because you can pick up speed again with your two engines? What's the reasoning here? Is there a video or place I could learn about CLmax/ClCritHigh? I didn't see you enable/disable flaps (interface/hud). @:18 What is MER?
1. No you don't climb better with combat flaps. You don't climb with lift, lift is just used to counter weight. What is used to climb is excess power (power available after removing the power necessary to overcome drag). CLmax is useful because it's what directly affects your turn radius. If you double CLmax, your turn radius is divided by 2. The higher the CLmax, the tighter that aircraft will turn. If you're curious about CLmax, you can check the answer here: www.quora.com/What-is-Cl-max-for-an-aircraft 2. Maneuvering Energy Retention. Essentially it's a measure of how much energy (speed) an aircraft loses when maneuvering. Different aircraft will lose speed at different rates depending on their power, weight, wing, geometry, etc. I did some tests and made a video explaining it if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/wLA8cspXbbE/v-deo.html
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank you for your reply! 1. "Cl means Coefficient of Lift " so this is also useful in a hammerhead? 2. Another educational/tutorial video! Thanks! I was looking around for those ;)
1. It's useful in turns, especially low speed turns. Hammerhead is actually a way for a poor turning plane to do a quick change of direction without turning/using CLmax. 2. Lots more where that came from!
13:08 noone shall survive an encounter with me! Nice and usefull video, since i've been learning P38 recently. I really like P38 K, but all P38s except L are too sluggish for me to get guns on enemies in many situations, they aren't snappy enough.
People are so bad at head-ons, I never commit to them because I find it hard to come out unscathed but recently I had a game in the nc900 (French fw190) and had 3 kills in 2 mins because 109s tried to head on my 4 20mm guns
@@AdamTheEnginerd Nice! Though a word of warning, it seems to still have the engine bug/feature where the engine will instantly die from even the lightest 7.7mm hits. May be also my personal confirmation bias, but I've seen many others reporting similar behavior .
It's called the "local host". How to access the "local host": You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work! Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT: -Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila. Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT): -Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
I feel like this game would be a lot more fun if my little pea brain had the iq to process how to best use the different systems and mechanics of each individual vehicle, but alas. Nope. Still a fun game though
Im so bad with nose mounted guns is that even a possibility. Like i get hits with wing mounted guns much easier isnt it supposed to be the other way around? Smh
Kinda, wing mounted guns have a bigger area of hitting while you need good aim with nose mounted guns to hit, but when you hit with those you kill much faster.
There are two reactions from Pe-8 pilots who get unwillingly baited. Beta male Pe-8 starts crying and tries to flee. Chad Pe-8 roars URRRAAAAA and leads the enemies into a firey loop of turrets and Communism. Edit dammit he was a beta. Very disappointing.
Those 2 cons poor dive and poor turn are not that true maybe at high alt but below 4k meters it's dive is broken and I outturn 109s at low alt you've got to remeber it uses allisons the best low alt engine of WW2 other then tempest engine
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thought they turned well at high speed, and at low speed I'm not sure they turn better. Flaps indeed make it much better, and since it has one of the better MER (I think?), I would count them in turn performance at low speed.
Yeah. The first p 38 I fell in love with. I could bnz in it, pilot snipe in it, dive at speeds many heavy fighters can't dive at. And most of all. Laugh at all the fighters that could have killed me. The 110 I really really fell in love with was the g 2. I would use the 37mm for bomber hunting, and turn fighting with some other stoopid ppl without gun pods. (Bf 110 is not known for speed, it climbs well and turns well. Idk if I should call it a big energy fighter XD) I could go on and on bc I like heavy fighters, and get huge amounts of sl while using them.
Adam514 ua-cam.com/video/0DWap7pS7XM/v-deo.html 2:13 or so Great game btw, and is there a major difference between the L version and the other one in the same folder?
@@AdamTheEnginerd yeah, that's from this year E3. During Cyberpunk 2077 presentation guy from the audience yelled that to Keanu Reeves. And he responded: "No, you are breathtaking!".
How do you get games where either of the following doesnt happen: the enemy team lose 5 people to thier own incompetance or your team leave the game immediately meaning you get raped by 4 bf109s , like where is this setting that enables you to get more than 3 kills
I just got the p38 lightning, it is so good first game got like 7 kills total, I'm about to get the p51 mustang, its my favorite fighter of ww2 but idk tbh cuz the p38 really good
Hey Adam can u do a review on the F80A, F80C or F84 B? Now the R2Y2 received its massive nerf, American jets are so different now. Btw as always love the vid and keep up the work! Cant really get the handling of P38s dunno why :(
: So, the P-38s are actually really good when used right (the key is those combat flaps. Really strong lift boost, and don't rip till well past 500kph), but they're way harder to fly than they should be. Especially when it comes to low-speed maneuvers. At least the 38K behaves fairly well close to and/or within a stall, but all of them should, and they're fat cows. The 38K should be amazing there. Alright, now for the NOVEL. This thing is a twin engine heavy fighter that *almost* flies like a single-engine fighter. Almost. You wouldn’t expect it, but these things are almost pure energy fighters, with a BnZ focus. They practically require an energy advantage, but when you have it they’re nothing short of deadly. You absolutely must sideclimb in them, I’d say at least 5km from a ground spawn. The E and G get an airspawn, so at tier and in a downtier, you can climb straight at the enemy spawn at a 10-15 degree climb. MEC is your friend here. Full rads to WEP climb. As you end the sideclimb portion, at about 5km, and turn in, drop throttle to 100%, (optionally drop turn off auto prop pitch and set to 90% while cooling), and adjust the rads as follows: ~33% water ~36% oil (w/ prop pitch set to max on the E model for the extra power instructor holds back on auto). As the engines cool back down, you can drop to ~30% water ~34% oil and go back on the WEP. This will give a fair amount of fight time at WEP, but may need some adjusting, especially on hot or cold maps. At very high alts (7km+), the temps cool nicely and you can get away with ~25% rads or even less. MEC also allows you to turn off and feather a dead or damaged engine to reduce drag/save the engine for if you need it/reduce fuel consumption, but that’s pretty advanced stuff. The P-38s are unique, tricky birds to fly and get the hang of, but once you do, they can dominate. They have two powerful engines and really impressive flaps, as well as very good ER for a bird of their size. However, the control surfaces are somewhat slow to respond. It can pull well, and has a good top roll rate (excellent on the L model with boosters), but it takes a little time to get it pulling/rolling as hard as it can. (The L remedies this a fair amount with the aileron boosters.) Sometimes, it's even better to hold a fast roll in the "wrong direction", as you'll get the nose/lift vector where you want it faster that way. I've gotten a few kills this way, where an enemy played into the “wrong” roll. The sluggishness/control “floatiness” does make getting guns on difficult, especially in deflection shots if your opponent introduces any roll. It demands thinking ahead a split-second to aim, which can be difficult. However, if the guns connect, they're doing damage. Especially the cannon. The *key* to flying it is managing your speed/energy. Between 300 and ~500kph, with combat flaps you will outturn any 109 or 190 you face, though the gap is *really* narrow with the 109F-4 (though the P-38E and G open this gap back up with their lower weight). However, you kinda bleed speed in verticals or upward maneuvers, which is massive pain. Don't engage opponents in verticals without an energy advantage. The K model, this doesn’t matter so much because you just have **all** the horsepower, but in all the others, you need to keep the fight moving at least slightly downwards to keep your speed in that 300-500 band. If you do that, you’re golden. However, also be aware that you lock up hard when you get going too fast, and feel free to break off and reclimb if an enemy is breaking away and down. This plane seems to really like 15 degree climbs for whatever reason, getting what feels like a very favorable speed:altitude exchange rate. Another weakness of this plane is the compression model. It compresses the ailerons and elevator **hard** above 600 or so kph (again, better in the L model) to the point where 109s and their current fantasy FMs will outpull you. 38s did have problems with compression, but the 109s should have it just as bad, if not worse. However, as soon as you drop to ~500kph, you can pop flaps, and those flaps mean you'll outturn 109s and 190s quite handily, so long as you keep it above 300ish kph. Below that, the 38 becomes sluggish, and is an absolute brick under 200kph without flaps (the K model being a *notable* exception with very nice stall characteristics and control, which is actually in line with how all 38s should be). Even with flaps, it gets very sluggish at low speeds. The lacking modelling on the P-38s is practically painful. They're actually really good BnZ/energy fighters, which is just kinda mind boggling, that a twin-engine fighter could be an energy fighter. But the 38 has huge amounts of power, a lifty yet low-drag wing, and IRL had great stall and near-stall characteristics. In-game, it's just a sluggish cow at low speeds, which is incredibly disappointing, and handicaps it in vertical/oblique maneuvers. I've beaten K-4s in energy/BnZ hybrid fights (the fight was at high alt and I did start with the advantage), but it completely fails when it comes to getting guns on or pulling up into vertical maneuvers, as the WT model just bricks under ~300kph. This thing should be able to practically *dance* in the vertical and at the edge of the stall envelope. It was renowned for stalling incredibly gently, maintaining control very well up to and through a stall, and being very easy to recover from a stall. None of this seems to be present in game, simply modeled as having a lowish stall speed and being good at prop hanging. All the other characteristics are absent. This thing is a floaty brick and stalls **hard** once it does stall. The characteristic that would redeem it as a dogfighter in light of its mediocre-poor overall maneuverability and high weight, the excellent stall-fighting capabilities, just aren't there. Part of that low-speed control would also be utilizing multi-engine controls (While in a steep climb, and approaching a stall, pilots would chop one throttle to ~50%, flick the other to maximum, and it would practically 180/hammerhead around the chopped engine. Or pilots would cut the inside engine in a banked turn, greatly decreasing turn time). However, this is incredibly clunky in game. I also suspect the instructor would fight such engine shenanigans all the way through, making it harder to pull off. Additionally, the stall recovery from stalling one side to hammerhead would be nightmarish with the current FM.
irl the p38 could hold 70 mph (112 km/h) without flipping over to the other side like most planes would at that speed! it could stick with the Germans. And with the later model dive flaps, the germans even had a hard time out diving it! the fork-tailed devil sure is a fascinating bird
@@AdamTheEnginerd There are numerous documented cases of even early P-38s (F and G models) tangling well with 109Fs over North Africa and Italy. The P-38’s maneuver setting in real life was 50% flaps and made a huge difference.
Who requested this I wanna hug them the p-38's are my favorite planes for no apparent reason I even bought all the premium versions but I have a hard time getting them to work I thank you very much for this video I will watch it alot
They are great but shit at long dives which is what Americans do best , funny thing is that Japanese planes outdive you so don't hard dive when they are above you , just shalow dives and then straighten up .
Haha I just played a match before work and ended up being the last guuly on my team at 9k meters trailing four bf109s and a fw 190 anyone wanna squad up
One of the reasons you got so many kills is probably because you played against Japanese. Even the MiG-3-15 at battle rating 1.7 outspeeds an A6M5 at 4.7 at all altitudes. I think the late P-38s (except probably all of the premium ones) may be a bit under-performing when I look them on paper. They aren't the fastest against Bf-109s, especially higher br Bf-109s and I doubt they can do that well against Soviet planes (except the ones at lower br). Obviously most Japanese planes cannot outspeed the P-38L which also has great roll rate and the same if not, better climb rate. What's your experience against other nations?
AdamTheEnginerd You are fighter pilots first, last, always. If I ever hear of you shooting someone in a parachute, I will shoot you myself.” -Luftwaffe Commander
Adam, what do you think is the best angle/speed at which I should climb? Kind of a weird question, but I always see you above the enemy and at high speeds at the beginning of every match. Is it just patient side climbing? If I take too long climbing I feel separated from the match and barely do anything. Thanks!
There's a specific IAS for optimal climbing for every prop. 270 km/h IAS is a good starting point for most planes, but light planes will climb at a lower speed and heavier planes at a higher speed.
13:08 definitely not a wacrime Btw, I still think that P-38J and L are best US 4.3 and 4.7 fighters, respectively. You can easily outmaneuver any FW and sometimes late 109-s (esp with gunpods aka 50-60% planes) IF YOU NEED. But its climb and MER allow you other, more useful tactics of air combat. Also, dive brake + combat flaps combo makes your turn radius even smaller, but bleeds your speed really fast
@@AdamTheEnginerd if FW drops its take-off flaps (which limit is around 640) - yes, you shoud do the same. But without flaps - no, they have almost same turn radius, plus FW bleed its speed faster even without its flaps.
A stupid USAAF report claims this thing has a better turn radius than a P-51B and a P-47D, and I rechecked the statement it said “in a constant 4G turn”, basically a comparison of who’s being the slowest >:(
Lol , I actually imagined "he's enraged friend" as a Japanese pilot with a white scarf tied around his forehead yelling stuff in Japanese: hatzurai hatzukarammaassaAaaiiiiiiyyyy ! *Translation= Fuck you Adaaaaaammm* LOL
Done with the US team. Wasted too much time trying to get good in that team. It isn't that their players are trash but their planes are as well. Once you reach 6000 m, your whole team is dead and now you can't even see the enemy because they are all too low or too far.
@@AdamTheEnginerd ah alright, I don't have the P-38L yet, I have the J above it, was looking at the modifications for It and seen it had gun pods so I thought I'd ask.
Hello Adam, how is your aim soo good? Especially with Russian 20mms. I have a hard time aiming with those. Is there anyway that I can improve my shooting? Thanks Adam
man, i would love your oppinion, or maybe if u could do a vid on YP-38 :D i got it in hangar, but im not sure if it's good. Love you and also great vid man.
This may be the most unusual request ever, can you try out the I-16 type 24? (Don't bother with earlier I-16s, they can outturn A6M but they still turn rather badly.) If not then can you make a video on the I-180S? I'm pretty sure you will like the armament.
AdamTheEnginerd Adam, thank you for replying to most of your comments, even on older videos! You’ve helped me improve my skill in this game by not only uploading, but replying to a majority of my comments! Thank you!
Performance wise I love this plane, but I can't hit anything with it... seriously, most of my kills are from dogfighting enemies and hitting the odd 50 cal bullet until they go into the ground. I even ran a guy out of fuel once.
@@AdamTheEnginerd It's not the roll that's the problem, it's just the way the controls feel somewhat "floaty", and the fact that the mouse elevator is rather weak.
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Heh lad whens the fail compilation i wanna see how you respond when things dont go your way
Adam im confused when it comes to ias and spd, i dont know which one to use, most people say ias but you use spd...
Why don't you use dive flaps?
"If your team dies at the same rate as the enemy team then your team is good"
---- Adam (2019)
"Team isn't useless*".
@@AdamTheEnginerd Ahh Semantics lol. Plus it's a lot catchy.
That's true though
it's big brain time
Whenever I run into Adam in battle my reaction is pretty much “oh F its Adam we are so screwed”
Even when we're on the same team, no one is safe!
@@AdamTheEnginerd yeah there is a chance you'll use them as baits
@9:43 "Ughhhhh." That's the sound Adam makes when he discovers a Zero nearby with higher energy state :D
Great vid Adam!
Hahaha thanks!
Yesterday I played a Spitfire as you said, in a support role, managed to bring low 3 Bf 109s and had them burn their energy on me for quite the time, managed to dodge every attack, but sadly no teammate really came to my aid, as I was spamming for cover and eventually one of the bf 109s got on my 6 and shot me down. All I wanted to say is, thank you for showing me the true potential of the spitfires dude.
Hahaha not sure if serious or not, but my pleasure!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Well it was serious lol, I really managed to see where the spitfire shines, but with no adequate team to shoot the baited enemy down you really are left to your enemy's mercy if you can't get your guns on him on time.
Loved the war crime at the end
I play for the war crime.
Two girls one cup: no thanks
Two planes one pilot: YEAAA
Lol not bad.
I absolutely love your videos. They are amazing and I hope you keep bringing out better and better content every single upload😁
Thanks for the kind words! That's a high bar though ;).
Your already exceeding the bar ;)
Awesome video
I'm becoming a regular viewer of your you tube vids XD
Keep up the great work!!!
Also can you play the yak 3u please? Thx
Thanks! And welcome!
It's on my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd
Thank you mate
Nice done! P38 is awesome
Thanks! I don't really like them though.
Should've done the P-38K. Much better plane imho. It climbs better, performs better at altitude, and is slightly higher in br so you can bully Ju-288s
I don't have it, and the roll on the 38K is pretty bad.
@@AdamTheEnginerd understandable. It might come back around Christmas time. I cant suggest it enough however. It gets most of the benefits of the P-38 series and gets premium status as well. Super good for grinding out aircraft.
This is some kind of teamwork, here.
Great job, dude !
Thanks dude!
That 514 in your name, is it your phone number's regional indicator?
Regional indicator ;).
Flappy bird? No wonder they make me rage.
They make the user rage, fitting name.
You never cease to amaze myself and so many others Adam. Well done. Great flying.
Thanks mate!
You read my mind :D
I was thinking about this plane and playing it a bit to spade it, since it's stock. I love P-38s especially XP-38 and P-38 K.
I try ;).
@@AdamTheEnginerd oh and also I wanted to ask what do you think about japanese N1K1/N1K2s? I know they were recently moved from 6.3 to 6.0 but I don't know if they are good.
A step in the right direction. I'll try them again.
Lt.Adam, i think u dont have a single video about the P51D5, plz make one.
It's on my list!
5:14 "I'll try spinning, that's a neat trick!"
Nice video tho bro I'm scared of meeting you in game and getting clappped tho
I've been there, got scared, got clapped...
514!
Haha thanks!
I dislike facing P38s, not because they are good but because they are cowardly and constantly run away.
That's not especially particular to P38s though.
How do you get the CLmax and other data for the planes? Awesome video, keep up the good work!
Datamine, use these instructions to get the files for yourself: www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/8nq70p/tutorial_how_to_datamine_or_how_i_learned_to_stop/
Thanks, I will!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank you so much!
P38 was one of the fastests planes in the war. Gaijin beeing Gaijin.
It's fast at high altitude thanks to its turbochargers, for its time.
@@AdamTheEnginerd but a dual engine fighter isn´t fast at low alt too? I see the same problem in F6F´s. They can´t outperform japanese planes and it was very different in the war. I refuse to accept War Thunder FM´s as accurate due to buffs and nerfs all the time.
@@nando_br Try to prove they are inaccurate. In my opinion they are pretty good. Thing is, war and ET are different and put emphasis on different aspects of performance.
@@AdamTheEnginerd what do u tell me about buffs and nerfs all the time? Why the same planes are totally different in simulators like DCS and IL2 ( a Gaijin simulator)?
@@nando_br Contradictory documents.
I recall someone comparing turns in those flight sims and they were extremely close.
Hey Adam, when I want to do some sharp turns are landing flaps better than take-off flaps, or what´s the difference?
The more flaps the tighter the turn (with some rare exceptions), but also the more speed you lose.
@@AdamTheEnginerd so landing flaps make me turn faster, but bleed more speed than with take-off flaps?
Great video bro! You are definitely one of the best Pilots I've seen and content creator. I've had the pleasure of fighting with you and against you many times in the past. Question. I used to always see you flying with your squad in the P51 at br 5.0...At the time I think you said it was your favorite. Have your feelings changed towards this plane and if so what is your favorite American airplane. Thanks for the great videos
Thanks bro!
Yeah that must have been years ago. I've only played it a handful of times in the last year. My feelings have changed because of the nerf to the rudder at high speed, and high speed control was one of its strengths so... Now it's F4U4B ;).
My pleasure!
@0:32 You can climb better with combat flaps?! The drag doesn't matter because you can pick up speed again with your two engines? What's the reasoning here? Is there a video or place I could learn about CLmax/ClCritHigh? I didn't see you enable/disable flaps (interface/hud).
@:18 What is MER?
1. No you don't climb better with combat flaps. You don't climb with lift, lift is just used to counter weight. What is used to climb is excess power (power available after removing the power necessary to overcome drag). CLmax is useful because it's what directly affects your turn radius. If you double CLmax, your turn radius is divided by 2. The higher the CLmax, the tighter that aircraft will turn. If you're curious about CLmax, you can check the answer here: www.quora.com/What-is-Cl-max-for-an-aircraft
2. Maneuvering Energy Retention. Essentially it's a measure of how much energy (speed) an aircraft loses when maneuvering. Different aircraft will lose speed at different rates depending on their power, weight, wing, geometry, etc. I did some tests and made a video explaining it if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/wLA8cspXbbE/v-deo.html
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank you for your reply!
1. "Cl means Coefficient of Lift
" so this is also useful in a hammerhead?
2. Another educational/tutorial video! Thanks! I was looking around for those ;)
1. It's useful in turns, especially low speed turns. Hammerhead is actually a way for a poor turning plane to do a quick change of direction without turning/using CLmax.
2. Lots more where that came from!
Adam do you play squadron battles? If so can you make some videos there too? Greets
Nope I don't.
13:08 noone shall survive an encounter with me!
Nice and usefull video, since i've been learning P38 recently. I really like P38 K, but all P38s except L are too sluggish for me to get guns on enemies in many situations, they aren't snappy enough.
Haha!
Thanks! I don't really like them, but as you say at least L can roll well.
Hi Adam, d y recommend p38L engages 190 in rolling scissor or dogfight
Dogfight, rolling scissors with a 190 will be riskier.
@@AdamTheEnginerd but it will perform better against 109 i think
I recall the IAS limit on P-38s being 400 mph at sea level due to compressibility issues
That's less than M0.6, so it's quite safe still.
AdamTheEnginerd oh. I recall it loses control at M0.68 so the AAF might be overly conservative
Nice vídeo! I really appreciate it
Thans man!
People are so bad at head-ons, I never commit to them because I find it hard to come out unscathed but recently I had a game in the nc900 (French fw190) and had 3 kills in 2 mins because 109s tried to head on my 4 20mm guns
Adam, would you recommend to break off your landing gear on purpose with planes such as the Ju-87? Great video!
Thanks!
Hmm I'd have to test it to see if there actually is a performance increase!
I tested the Ju 87 B-2 with full bomb load at 200m with radiatior at 0% at 100% throttle, "removing" the gear increased my max speed by 45kph!
Wow sounds promising!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Reminds me of when you could break off the floats on the 2.3 (? or 2.7) BR N1K1 floatplane and end up with the 5.3 N1K1.
I don't fly japanese planes very often, can you not break them off anymore?
Without keyboard input P38s (and many other planes) don't do full elevator turns.
13:20 You need to replace kill counter it's Gaijined.
The ones I've tested are identical with keyboard and mouse.
@@AdamTheEnginerd idk doesn't feel like it. Especially when stalling or dogfighting, without keyboard it's pretty hard.
When stalling the result can be different indeed, but you're rarely in that position in random matches.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Even when not stalling you turn much better with keyboard input (and yes I saw your video on keyboard vs mouse turn).
Well then it was exactly the same as shown in that video. Might be a perspective or placebo issue.
Second to last enemy Eldiablo met that guy once in arcade killed him and he never left me alone entire match lmaooo
Hey Adam this comment is alittle late but I just unlocked the k4, do u have any tips to help me beat p38s?
K4 shouldn't have issues against P38s. However stock grind is pretty bad, stay close to your team while unlocking mods.
Adam514 appreciate it
What an amazing game, I main the p38
I’ve spaded both the p38 g p38 e and p38 l
Thanks!
Ish P38 main. P38s aren't for me.
Great battle as usual. Continue the theme of heavy fighters, SM.92 next maybe?
Thanks!
I'll add it to my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Nice! Though a word of warning, it seems to still have the engine bug/feature where the engine will instantly die from even the lightest 7.7mm hits. May be also my personal confirmation bias, but I've seen many others reporting similar behavior .
At least it has 2 engines lol.
Awesome gameplay
Thanks!
Can you please do a video in first person only? That would be epic
Maybe one day.
Are the stat readings an addon? I would like to have them playing live on my screen to better understand my aircraft
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
Best tier 3 and 4 plane in your opinion?
Great vid!
Thanks!
F4U4B is my favorite and very strong.
nice score
Thanks!
did you just try to kill the parachutist?
Perhaps ;).
I feel like this game would be a lot more fun if my little pea brain had the iq to process how to best use the different systems and mechanics of each individual vehicle, but alas. Nope. Still a fun game though
There's always the option to learn!
Any pasta video soon?
Hmm none in the pipeline.
It gets an air spawn now
Indeed it does!
please play the 190A anyone of them they're all fantastic fighters great for reversals
They are on my list!
Adam514! Im so sorry i could not watch your vid when it came out, i was sick. Please forgive me.
You belong in hell
@@tsoixyz wdym
I always watch his latest vids, for a year straight.
i was joking :D
@@tsoixyz oh
How bout F4e phantom ?
What about it?
Dogfight with it
Good plane but hard to win games without teammates
Yeah it would have trouble if it were alone.
The P-38L is fun to fly. A bit hard to aim though
Meh not my cup of tea.
Im so bad with nose mounted guns is that even a possibility. Like i get hits with wing mounted guns much easier isnt it supposed to be the other way around? Smh
Kinda, wing mounted guns have a bigger area of hitting while you need good aim with nose mounted guns to hit, but when you hit with those you kill much faster.
Try flying the P-47D-25
I did a video on it, not enough?
AdamTheEnginerd my bad I didn’t check I thought you didn’t do it sorry
No worries.
Adam514, I want you to know that...
I suck :(
Thanks for letting me know.
I'm back!
From?
Nowhere i guess
From not watching your vids
Maybe yak 3p?
It's on my list!
absolutely amazing aim in this one
Thank you.
i would like to see if you play some crap plane for time to time. Just for fun :D
Euh I already do that.
There are two reactions from Pe-8 pilots who get unwillingly baited.
Beta male Pe-8 starts crying and tries to flee.
Chad Pe-8 roars URRRAAAAA and leads the enemies into a firey loop of turrets and Communism.
Edit dammit he was a beta. Very disappointing.
Haha I didn't see him cry though. He didn't have time.
*NUT*
Yeet.
Please do a mig 15 vid
Already did a few months ago!
Those 2 cons poor dive and poor turn are not that true maybe at high alt but below 4k meters it's dive is broken and I outturn 109s at low alt you've got to remeber it uses allisons the best low alt engine of WW2 other then tempest engine
It has a low rip speed and a worse turn time and turn radius compared to the average for fighters of that BR, those are facts.
@@AdamTheEnginerd very true it may be my bias towards lightnings but I swore it could outurn things if pushed
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks for the video has it changed significantly in the last year?
@@viruspter1dactl No changes. It has good flaps though, so with those it can get about average turn.
poor turn?
Yeah, worse than P47s which are poor.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thought they turned well at high speed, and at low speed I'm not sure they turn better. Flaps indeed make it much better, and since it has one of the better MER (I think?), I would count them in turn performance at low speed.
Their turn radius and turn time is significantly under average. Flaps help a lot though.
And here i am struggling to get 1 or 2 kill in a p-51h...
Other than that great vid i love the p-38s
Thanks!
Yeah. The first p 38 I fell in love with. I could bnz in it, pilot snipe in it, dive at speeds many heavy fighters can't dive at. And most of all. Laugh at all the fighters that could have killed me. The 110 I really really fell in love with was the g 2. I would use the 37mm for bomber hunting, and turn fighting with some other stoopid ppl without gun pods. (Bf 110 is not known for speed, it climbs well and turns well. Idk if I should call it a big energy fighter XD) I could go on and on bc I like heavy fighters, and get huge amounts of sl while using them.
I keep tangling with Ju288s and die, i can’t seem to get my rounds where i want to go
@@pineapplelapolynesia1994 with what plane?
I'm not a big fan of the p-38's I prefer the f4u's and p39's
Adam i want u to know that...
YOU ARE BREATHTAKING
Lol is that a meme?
Adam514 ua-cam.com/video/0DWap7pS7XM/v-deo.html 2:13 or so
Great game btw, and is there a major difference between the L version and the other one in the same folder?
@@AdamTheEnginerd yeah, that's from this year E3. During Cyberpunk 2077 presentation guy from the audience yelled that to Keanu Reeves. And he responded: "No, you are breathtaking!".
@@florianbielawa2919 thank you
Ohh lmao!
Awesome video mate !
Can you play the F80C-10
It is so good
Thanks mate!
It's on my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd
Great
How do you get games where either of the following doesnt happen: the enemy team lose 5 people to thier own incompetance or your team leave the game immediately meaning you get raped by 4 bf109s , like where is this setting that enables you to get more than 3 kills
Gotta do your best to minimize the games where that happens.
I just got the p38 lightning, it is so good first game got like 7 kills total, I'm about to get the p51 mustang, its my favorite fighter of ww2 but idk tbh cuz the p38 really good
P38L is really nice with the boosted ailerons and airspawn.
3:47 F for F4WRD? NO.
Lol harsh.
Hey Adam can u do a review on the F80A, F80C or F84 B? Now the R2Y2 received its massive nerf, American jets are so different now.
Btw as always love the vid and keep up the work!
Cant really get the handling of P38s dunno why :(
Like a performance comparison video?
Thanks, I will!
P38s aren't my cup of tea either.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Alright thx!
: So, the P-38s are actually really good when used right (the key is those combat flaps. Really strong lift boost, and don't rip till well past 500kph), but they're way harder to fly than they should be. Especially when it comes to low-speed maneuvers. At least the 38K behaves fairly well close to and/or within a stall, but all of them should, and they're fat cows. The 38K should be amazing there.
Alright, now for the NOVEL. This thing is a twin engine heavy fighter that *almost* flies like a single-engine fighter. Almost. You wouldn’t expect it, but these things are almost pure energy fighters, with a BnZ focus. They practically require an energy advantage, but when you have it they’re nothing short of deadly. You absolutely must sideclimb in them, I’d say at least 5km from a ground spawn. The E and G get an airspawn, so at tier and in a downtier, you can climb straight at the enemy spawn at a 10-15 degree climb. MEC is your friend here. Full rads to WEP climb. As you end the sideclimb portion, at about 5km, and turn in, drop throttle to 100%, (optionally drop turn off auto prop pitch and set to 90% while cooling), and adjust the rads as follows: ~33% water ~36% oil (w/ prop pitch set to max on the E model for the extra power instructor holds back on auto). As the engines cool back down, you can drop to ~30% water ~34% oil and go back on the WEP. This will give a fair amount of fight time at WEP, but may need some adjusting, especially on hot or cold maps.
At very high alts (7km+), the temps cool nicely and you can get away with ~25% rads or even less. MEC also allows you to turn off and feather a dead or damaged engine to reduce drag/save the engine for if you need it/reduce fuel consumption, but that’s pretty advanced stuff.
The P-38s are unique, tricky birds to fly and get the hang of, but once you do, they can dominate. They have two powerful engines and really impressive flaps, as well as very good ER for a bird of their size. However, the control surfaces are somewhat slow to respond. It can pull well, and has a good top roll rate (excellent on the L model with boosters), but it takes a little time to get it pulling/rolling as hard as it can. (The L remedies this a fair amount with the aileron boosters.) Sometimes, it's even better to hold a fast roll in the "wrong direction", as you'll get the nose/lift vector where you want it faster that way. I've gotten a few kills this way, where an enemy played into the “wrong” roll. The sluggishness/control “floatiness” does make getting guns on difficult, especially in deflection shots if your opponent introduces any roll. It demands thinking ahead a split-second to aim, which can be difficult. However, if the guns connect, they're doing damage. Especially the cannon. The *key* to flying it is managing your speed/energy. Between 300 and ~500kph, with combat flaps you will outturn any 109 or 190 you face, though the gap is *really* narrow with the 109F-4 (though the P-38E and G open this gap back up with their lower weight). However, you kinda bleed speed in verticals or upward maneuvers, which is massive pain. Don't engage opponents in verticals without an energy advantage.
The K model, this doesn’t matter so much because you just have **all** the horsepower, but in all the others, you need to keep the fight moving at least slightly downwards to keep your speed in that 300-500 band. If you do that, you’re golden. However, also be aware that you lock up hard when you get going too fast, and feel free to break off and reclimb if an enemy is breaking away and down.
This plane seems to really like 15 degree climbs for whatever reason, getting what feels like a very favorable speed:altitude exchange rate.
Another weakness of this plane is the compression model. It compresses the ailerons and elevator **hard** above 600 or so kph (again, better in the L model) to the point where 109s and their current fantasy FMs will outpull you. 38s did have problems with compression, but the 109s should have it just as bad, if not worse. However, as soon as you drop to ~500kph, you can pop flaps, and those flaps mean you'll outturn 109s and 190s quite handily, so long as you keep it above 300ish kph. Below that, the 38 becomes sluggish, and is an absolute brick under 200kph without flaps (the K model being a *notable* exception with very nice stall characteristics and control, which is actually in line with how all 38s should be). Even with flaps, it gets very sluggish at low speeds.
The lacking modelling on the P-38s is practically painful. They're actually really good BnZ/energy fighters, which is just kinda mind boggling, that a twin-engine fighter could be an energy fighter. But the 38 has huge amounts of power, a lifty yet low-drag wing, and IRL had great stall and near-stall characteristics. In-game, it's just a sluggish cow at low speeds, which is incredibly disappointing, and handicaps it in vertical/oblique maneuvers. I've beaten K-4s in energy/BnZ hybrid fights (the fight was at high alt and I did start with the advantage), but it completely fails when it comes to getting guns on or pulling up into vertical maneuvers, as the WT model just bricks under ~300kph. This thing should be able to practically *dance* in the vertical and at the edge of the stall envelope. It was renowned for stalling incredibly gently, maintaining control very well up to and through a stall, and being very easy to recover from a stall. None of this seems to be present in game, simply modeled as having a lowish stall speed and being good at prop hanging. All the other characteristics are absent. This thing is a floaty brick and stalls **hard** once it does stall. The characteristic that would redeem it as a dogfighter in light of its mediocre-poor overall maneuverability and high weight, the excellent stall-fighting capabilities, just aren't there. Part of that low-speed control would also be utilizing multi-engine controls (While in a steep climb, and approaching a stall, pilots would chop one throttle to ~50%, flick the other to maximum, and it would practically 180/hammerhead around the chopped engine. Or pilots would cut the inside engine in a banked turn, greatly decreasing turn time). However, this is incredibly clunky in game. I also suspect the instructor would fight such engine shenanigans all the way through, making it harder to pull off. Additionally, the stall recovery from stalling one side to hammerhead would be nightmarish with the current FM.
David Borgmeyer you sound like Dick Bong or Tommy McGuire
irl the p38 could hold 70 mph (112 km/h) without flipping over to the other side like most planes would at that speed! it could stick with the Germans. And with the later model dive flaps, the germans even had a hard time out diving it! the fork-tailed devil sure is a fascinating bird
Perhaps with landing flaps it can do that.
@@AdamTheEnginerd There are numerous documented cases of even early P-38s (F and G models) tangling well with 109Fs over North Africa and Italy. The P-38’s maneuver setting in real life was 50% flaps and made a huge difference.
Nice flap using, crazyargfighter says hi to you
Thanks! I don't know that name though.
Who requested this I wanna hug them the p-38's are my favorite planes for no apparent reason I even bought all the premium versions but I have a hard time getting them to work I thank you very much for this video I will watch it alot
A mysterious subscriber ;).
My pleasure, thanks for the watch time!
They are great but shit at long dives which is what Americans do best , funny thing is that Japanese planes outdive you so don't hard dive when they are above you , just shalow dives and then straighten up .
Haha I just played a match before work and ended up being the last guuly on my team at 9k meters trailing four bf109s and a fw 190 anyone wanna squad up
Hey nice video...i checked out your merch and altough i cant buy anything and help you with that i really like the design so keep up good work
Thanks, and glad you like them!
Ha! Big plane I'm sure I can vertica... a-AAAA
Haha!
One of the reasons you got so many kills is probably because you played against Japanese. Even the MiG-3-15 at battle rating 1.7 outspeeds an A6M5 at 4.7 at all altitudes. I think the late P-38s (except probably all of the premium ones) may be a bit under-performing when I look them on paper. They aren't the fastest against Bf-109s, especially higher br Bf-109s and I doubt they can do that well against Soviet planes (except the ones at lower br). Obviously most Japanese planes cannot outspeed the P-38L which also has great roll rate and the same if not, better climb rate. What's your experience against other nations?
Japanese can be tricky, but yeah I prefer fighting Japanese when in P38s (because Germans catch you). Ki84s will wreck this though.
damn killing bailed out pilots, thats illegal xD
Only if someone lives to tell on you ;).
AdamTheEnginerd You are fighter pilots first, last, always. If I ever hear of you shooting someone in a parachute, I will shoot you myself.”
-Luftwaffe Commander
@@mindesbork8559 is it a phrase that told to german's ace? What was his name?
Adam, what do you think is the best angle/speed at which I should climb? Kind of a weird question, but I always see you above the enemy and at high speeds at the beginning of every match. Is it just patient side climbing? If I take too long climbing I feel separated from the match and barely do anything. Thanks!
There's a specific IAS for optimal climbing for every prop. 270 km/h IAS is a good starting point for most planes, but light planes will climb at a lower speed and heavier planes at a higher speed.
As a sidenote, you can also check the optimal climb speed in the wt wiki for the planes. It should be on the info sidebar.
@@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 thanks!
Recently spaded this thing. Was a nice plane, but my goodness the teams were terrible!
Classic Allies.
13:08 definitely not a wacrime
Btw, I still think that P-38J and L are best US 4.3 and 4.7 fighters, respectively. You can easily outmaneuver any FW and sometimes late 109-s (esp with gunpods aka 50-60% planes) IF YOU NEED. But its climb and MER allow you other, more useful tactics of air combat. Also, dive brake + combat flaps combo makes your turn radius even smaller, but bleeds your speed really fast
You don't easily outmaneuver FW, you need flaps for that. D28 is a significantly better 4.7 aircraft imo.
P-38J feels so bad compared to the L, its actually a brick
@@AdamTheEnginerd if FW drops its take-off flaps (which limit is around 640) - yes, you shoud do the same. But without flaps - no, they have almost same turn radius, plus FW bleed its speed faster even without its flaps.
A stupid USAAF report claims this thing has a better turn radius than a P-51B and a P-47D, and I rechecked the statement it said “in a constant 4G turn”, basically a comparison of who’s being the slowest >:(
Yeah that's not a very good turn radius comparison...
Lol , I actually imagined "he's enraged friend" as a Japanese pilot with a white scarf tied around his forehead yelling stuff in Japanese: hatzurai hatzukarammaassaAaaiiiiiiyyyy ! *Translation= Fuck you Adaaaaaammm* LOL
Just like the movies ;).
Done with the US team. Wasted too much time trying to get good in that team. It isn't that their players are trash but their planes are as well. Once you reach 6000 m, your whole team is dead and now you can't even see the enemy because they are all too low or too far.
That's mainly due to team composition, and people in ground RB spading their attackers.
Idk lots of people that play US are idiots that dont climb whatsoever or take bombs on a fighter
@@tnt_6308 The fighters do a great job as bombers, 2 1000lbs allow for you to bomb the bases undetected. You still have to climb which nobody does.
Ive never seen anyone use the gun pods on the P-38L are they that useless? Lol
You already have centerline guns and enough of them, and the performance penalty is severe.
@@AdamTheEnginerd ah alright, I don't have the P-38L yet, I have the J above it, was looking at the modifications for It and seen it had gun pods so I thought I'd ask.
Hello Adam, how is your aim soo good? Especially with Russian 20mms. I have a hard time aiming with those. Is there anyway that I can improve my shooting? Thanks Adam
Practice ;).
man, i would love your oppinion, or maybe if u could do a vid on YP-38 :D i got it in hangar, but im not sure if it's good. Love you and also great vid man.
Don't have it actually.
Thanks!
This may be the most unusual request ever, can you try out the I-16 type 24?
(Don't bother with earlier I-16s, they can outturn A6M but they still turn rather badly.)
If not then can you make a video on the I-180S? I'm pretty sure you will like the armament.
I'll add it to my list! I don't have the I180S though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd that's a shocker
Adam will you ever fly the Bf110s? I want to learn them and i learn to fly by your videos, i can fly P38s thanks to you
Probably not on YT, but I fly them when they come from Twitch stream requests.
Do you dislike the Japanese heavy fighters? I found them fairly enjoyable and many retain the same maneuverability of Japanese props
I dislike heavy fighters in general.
What do you define as "good flaps" when you put them at the start of a video?
High increase in lift, high rip speed, fast extending and retracting.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Much appreciated! Keep the quality videos comin :D
My pleasure! I will!
I know what flaps are but when used in the context of the video, what do you mean? Do you mean they have good combat flaps? Or what do you mean?
I mean that the P38's flaps increase lift more than the average flaps, as seen in the beginning of the video in that text file.
AdamTheEnginerd Adam, thank you for replying to most of your comments, even on older videos! You’ve helped me improve my skill in this game by not only uploading, but replying to a majority of my comments! Thank you!
@@HeyBigChriss My pleasure! I reply to all actually haha.
I like u because u reply to a lot of comments :) good vid btw
Good reason to like me ;).
Thanks!
:D
Also why does your kill counter at the bottom of your screen say: Kill counter: 7 ?
(excellent video)
Thanks!
Woops! This is the 2nd time it happened haha.
New challenge - Headshots only @ BR 3.0
Haha sounds like a job for Shvaks.
This thing seems so op, but so bad at the same time. This plane is one of the hardest enigmas for me to figure out in the game.
Yeah I see what you mean.
Saving Private Ramones... Eh nevermind
...Avenging Private Ramones?
@@AdamTheEnginerd yeess thank you
Performance wise I love this plane, but I can't hit anything with it... seriously, most of my kills are from dogfighting enemies and hitting the odd 50 cal bullet until they go into the ground. I even ran a guy out of fuel once.
Even the P38L that rolls nicely?
@@AdamTheEnginerd It's not the roll that's the problem, it's just the way the controls feel somewhat "floaty", and the fact that the mouse elevator is rather weak.
Great plane with a trash rudder that makes the plane go from decent to absolute garbage.
Doesn't have trash rudder though.
Hey adam could you play the fw190 a4 pls thankd
It's on my list!
13:08 war crime bro.. see you in Hague
Always wanted to go there.
@@AdamTheEnginerd me too!
well, war crime or not, it was done with style.
Please play P47N or D. :D
They are on my list!