At least by the description, they're the Zieten's L60s (like you said, Nürnberg's guns, but with slightly lower values), whereas the Prinz Rupprecht, Freddy etc. all have slightly later 150s (albeit again with the same stats we can see). German 150s generally are quite deadly, although here, the 128mm autos are the real MVPs
Good morning, wonderful Terry. I want to learn from watching videos, but I think that you're always cool. I don't always have much to learn from watching UA-cam channels, but thank you
Thanks Terry! You always have a valuable perspective on these things. I really appreciate what you are doing here. As a fellow who also quit drinking at the doctors direction, after a while you won’t miss it at all. You’ll have more cash for loot crates!
Thanks for the review and Happy New year. Surprised you didnt like this ship. Lot other CC's have said good things on this ship.But always respect your views and opinions. Tough choice to be made. Thank you again for all u do.
Just checked, DZP shares the similar concept combining the string flags and the green lines on the side. Atlantico has the similar green thing while Marlborough does have the flag things in one of her special camo.
I disagree a bit with the general comment on concealment being useless after the initial engagement. Having better concealment doesn’t just help you stay unspotted longer, it also makes it easier for you to disengage and reposition better. Because of this, I’ve started using concealment as standard for most BBs as well as cruisers. One exception to this is something like secondary build GKs where to maximise your impact you need to be close enough that having a slightly better concealment is not really relevant whereas having better manoeuvrability can be very helpful, but with a more conventional BB build even the GK can benefit from being able to disengage and reposition.
😂I'm crying when I see the comparison with Rupprecht. I mean sure, new ships are usually always fun, but this... this is just horrible. I love the Schlieffen so much, especially during sleepy server time where it's mostly 3v3. I'm not going to give WG any money over something better that I can easily get from the tech tree. The concealment as similar to Rupprecht, so is speed and traverse, which sounds like a joke.
That's pretty much the basis for my conclusion - a premium ship, especially a high-tier, needs to bring something unique to the table, but if it gets outclassed by a tech tree equivalent, then it becomes a collector's item. Given that it's a T9, I'll guess sonar sweep or crate, which means it's likely not going to be a lot of them around, anyway. You can have good games in this, and it's not really a _bad_ ship, but I personally wouldn't spend money on it.
Quite a few ships have the streamers along the rigging, and ships with the “war paint” have sashes running along the hull and super, DZP has streamers or garland running on the hull.
Nice video, thanks for the details if we want to spend so much money in gold haha. But i think you're quit harsh with this ship. Your game vs the Marseille isn't "clear" to show how bad this ship is. I mean T9 vs T10 is always scary + you start the fight with only the front turret BUT you win at the end. Pretty fair i think 🤔
Happy new year 🎉 I think daisen have that kind of camo maybe All in all nice video but wg needs to think a bit about premiums as they struggle against tech tree which make no sense whatsoever 😢
Happy new year terry! I have a question tho, should I get Graf zeppelin and Cossack or black veneto? I have 32 copper, 10 steel and 10 titanium. I am not sure on what tor get
Happy New Year to you, too! Well, that entirely depends on what you like. Graf Zeppelin is a pretty good carrier, but you'll need to know how to play (and enjoy) CVs. Cossack has plenty of guns, more of a destroyer leader / scout cruiser, but fun ship. Black Veneto I haven't tried, but engine boost + RR looks like a fun combo, although the rest of the ship is probably pretty close to the regular Veneto, so not hugely unique, if that's what you're after.
@@FunandGameswithTerrythanks for the advice! I bought the Graf zeppelin and it is a fun boat. I m having a problem with my squadrons being shot down but I can use my guns and secondaries to finish up on the enemy ship
I'm sorry, it's one of those rounds where all you get is DDs. I've been there in my Yama, it's not fun, especially on an island-heavy map like this. But fortunately, that's not always the case :)
I saw a player called "USSR" and one called "JOSEFSTALIN" and also for good measure a "KIROV",isnt your press account on the ASIA server? I thought those were interesting usernames for some reason,idk
the fact that u get nurnberg guns as secondaries is deadly especially with the secondary overload 3
At least by the description, they're the Zieten's L60s (like you said, Nürnberg's guns, but with slightly lower values), whereas the Prinz Rupprecht, Freddy etc. all have slightly later 150s (albeit again with the same stats we can see).
German 150s generally are quite deadly, although here, the 128mm autos are the real MVPs
true@@FunandGameswithTerry
This ships war paint camo is a combination of the DZP and atlantico special camos
Good morning, wonderful Terry. I want to learn from watching videos, but I think that you're always cool. I don't always have much to learn from watching UA-cam channels, but thank you
Thanks Terry! You always have a valuable perspective on these things. I really appreciate what you are doing here. As a fellow who also quit drinking at the doctors direction, after a while you won’t miss it at all. You’ll have more cash for loot crates!
Thanks for the review and Happy New year. Surprised you didnt like this ship. Lot other CC's have said good things on this ship.But always respect your views and opinions. Tough choice to be made. Thank you again for all u do.
The Camo part, it is HMS Marlborough camo. Atlantico's camo is kinda similar as well.
Just checked, DZP shares the similar concept combining the string flags and the green lines on the side. Atlantico has the similar green thing while Marlborough does have the flag things in one of her special camo.
Happy New Year Terry. I think the Atlantico has a camo like that one :)
"I don't know what they were thinking, (WG) but it was wrong."- The Mighty Jingles
Happy New Year Terry!!!🎉 the camo is similar to the Atlantico secondary build camo...
happy new year
edit: it was the British tier 9 premium BB
Happy New Year Terry - thank you for the video - the USS Black has such nice flags hanging around - as always greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Danke, und Frohes Neues zurück :)
I believe a similar camouflage was on the Marlborough
Thank you Terry from saving me from a bad decision.
I disagree a bit with the general comment on concealment being useless after the initial engagement. Having better concealment doesn’t just help you stay unspotted longer, it also makes it easier for you to disengage and reposition better. Because of this, I’ve started using concealment as standard for most BBs as well as cruisers.
One exception to this is something like secondary build GKs where to maximise your impact you need to be close enough that having a slightly better concealment is not really relevant whereas having better manoeuvrability can be very helpful, but with a more conventional BB build even the GK can benefit from being able to disengage and reposition.
😂I'm crying when I see the comparison with Rupprecht. I mean sure, new ships are usually always fun, but this... this is just horrible. I love the Schlieffen so much, especially during sleepy server time where it's mostly 3v3. I'm not going to give WG any money over something better that I can easily get from the tech tree. The concealment as similar to Rupprecht, so is speed and traverse, which sounds like a joke.
That's pretty much the basis for my conclusion - a premium ship, especially a high-tier, needs to bring something unique to the table, but if it gets outclassed by a tech tree equivalent, then it becomes a collector's item.
Given that it's a T9, I'll guess sonar sweep or crate, which means it's likely not going to be a lot of them around, anyway.
You can have good games in this, and it's not really a _bad_ ship, but I personally wouldn't spend money on it.
Yep. I'll treat her like any Schlieffens. Shoot before they get close. @@FunandGameswithTerry
Happy New Year T!😊
Thanks, to you too!
DZP has an almost identical special camo
Quite a few ships have the streamers along the rigging, and ships with the “war paint” have sashes running along the hull and super, DZP has streamers or garland running on the hull.
I think DzP was the one I was thinking of
Nice video, thanks for the details if we want to spend so much money in gold haha. But i think you're quit harsh with this ship. Your game vs the Marseille isn't "clear" to show how bad this ship is. I mean T9 vs T10 is always scary + you start the fight with only the front turret BUT you win at the end. Pretty fair i think 🤔
Hizen has that garland camo I believe Terry
It looks like the Marlborough Camo or Atlantico War Paint camo
Smolensk striping. Atlantico green tassels. Smolensk or dezeven provincian special camo both have flaglets.
Marseille at that range is a rough opponent. Those guns if they have APCS, they can shred BB’s at that range.
Happy new year 🎉
I think daisen have that kind of camo maybe
All in all nice video but wg needs to think a bit about premiums as they struggle against tech tree which make no sense whatsoever 😢
Happy new year terry! I have a question tho, should I get Graf zeppelin and Cossack or black veneto? I have 32 copper, 10 steel and 10 titanium. I am not sure on what tor get
Happy New Year to you, too! Well, that entirely depends on what you like. Graf Zeppelin is a pretty good carrier, but you'll need to know how to play (and enjoy) CVs. Cossack has plenty of guns, more of a destroyer leader / scout cruiser, but fun ship. Black Veneto I haven't tried, but engine boost + RR looks like a fun combo, although the rest of the ship is probably pretty close to the regular Veneto, so not hugely unique, if that's what you're after.
@@FunandGameswithTerrythanks for the advice! I bought the Graf zeppelin and it is a fun boat. I m having a problem with my squadrons being shot down but I can use my guns and secondaries to finish up on the enemy ship
18:47I came across you by accident. I play Yamato (DE4TH)
I'm sorry, it's one of those rounds where all you get is DDs. I've been there in my Yama, it's not fun, especially on an island-heavy map like this. But fortunately, that's not always the case :)
I saw a player called "USSR" and one called "JOSEFSTALIN" and also for good measure a "KIROV",isnt your press account on the ASIA server? I thought those were interesting usernames for some reason,idk
I once had "Stalin" and "Hitler" both in the same game (on my team, no less). Usernames, amirite...
And yeah, I'm playing on Asia when on Press.
Happy new Year Terry 🎉😊
VIII De Zeven Provinciën I think
Schroder has better secondaries and way better aa compared to the rupp.