Watch this before WASTING MONEY on new pickups!

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  • Is your guitar suffering from noise or feedback issues? If not, the pickups you already have are probably fine! Are new ones going to be the "Magic Bullet" for awesome guitar tone? Let's put the claims to the test!
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    0:00 BUY PICKUPS!
    2:21 Where they matter
    3:09 Check THIS out!
    5:18 Let's Swap!
    7:05 70,000 Tons
    8:28 More tests
    11:18 EVEN MORE tests
    13:07 The Sad Truth about pickups
    14:32 The simple solution
    16:14 The Cream T
    17:28 What's Coming
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  • @theborg4751
    @theborg4751 Рік тому +109

    Theirs a hack to making your new pickups sound better ...leave the price tag on ..works every time

    • @syntaxerror9256
      @syntaxerror9256 Рік тому +5

      Hack 2 ....the more shiny the pickup the better it is

    • @mdargusch
      @mdargusch 10 місяців тому

      ​@@syntaxerror9256I seap all my avtives for EMGs in black chrome. 😂
      Please don't tell my wife!😢

    • @Fafa_Sauce
      @Fafa_Sauce 9 місяців тому +1

      There's*

    • @urbanobstacles
      @urbanobstacles 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Fafa_Sauce Their* isn't a person alive who likes you

    • @Fafa_Sauce
      @Fafa_Sauce 2 місяці тому

      @@urbanobstacles there*

  • @Diplomat440
    @Diplomat440 Рік тому +194

    Your videos over the years have literally saved me thousands. With patience, I managed to get the best tone I've ever gotten simply by using 2 mics and taking the time to place them strategically.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  Рік тому +48

      Thanks, Paul! Glad you’re getting results!

    • @aryehwiznitzer9060
      @aryehwiznitzer9060 Рік тому +7

      Yeah - so much of the online music community revolves around what you "have" to buy to get a better sound. No doubt it does help to have different guitars/pedals/amps, etc to try out new things. It might even inspire you to write better music in some cases. But you really don't ever "need" more than the basics of a few reliable (affordable) tools.

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 9 місяців тому

      Aha: "Strategery..." -G.W Bush

    • @DjSharpey666
      @DjSharpey666 9 місяців тому +2

      What microphones did you use?

    • @Diplomat440
      @Diplomat440 9 місяців тому

      @@DjSharpey666 using a pair of sm57s

  • @NShomebase
    @NShomebase 7 місяців тому +23

    All the drastic changes made by speaker, microphone, and placement aside, I definitely had a preference for the tone of the Crossfire Alnico pickups.

    • @Pyriander
      @Pyriander 5 місяців тому +1

      They were loudest, wich usually is, what people choose do find sounding best. Maybe not this time…

  • @murdahorse
    @murdahorse Рік тому +16

    I've been following you for a couple of years now and this is by far my favourite video you've done. Guitarists really need to see this. I can't believe how much effort goes into endless discussions about this pickup vs that pickup being essential for the ultimate chugging sound. Last year I bought an aftermarket pickup for the very first time and put it into my Jackson guitar, I was surprised by how little difference it actually made to the tone. People must be really kidding themselves once they've spent all that money

  • @nathangarton7381
    @nathangarton7381 Рік тому +313

    Got a challenge for you: Have the pickup and tone wood discussion live with Adam (Nolly) Getgood, Paul Reed Smith and Tim Mills (Bare Knuckle Pickups). These three guys have built significant careers on chasing the things that you're attempting to debunk. I'm interested to hear how they respond to your points.

    • @mohitrahaman
      @mohitrahaman Рік тому +36

      Idk why I watch SMGs videos. its fine that you can make your stock pickup sound good, but some aftermarket pickups actually make a difference. Always need a bag of salt when Glenn tries to demistify stuff with a semi serious tone, unlike his "ProTools, the best DAW" type of video.

    • @MrMockigton
      @MrMockigton Рік тому +53

      not so sure about nolly. he built his career on the v30 - and his signature sound is exactly that. you can almost certainly recognize nolly-mixes by the guitar sound. people pay him for that: so that their mixes sound like nolly mixed them. afaik he is not too big on tone wood and pickups himself.
      just my two cents: i had 2 guitarists come in for a guitar recording session, we used 4 different guitars with 4 different pickups. after reamping, noone remembered what guitar was used for what and could definitely tell no difference in tone at all.

    • @abandoned-mines-novascotia
      @abandoned-mines-novascotia Рік тому +67

      @@mohitrahaman I think the point is that pickup differences are SOOOO small and irrelevant for hi-gain stuff, that it's not worth worrying about. Any difference you think you may get from another pickup... you can simply get with your existing pickup. Just tweak mic placement, and there is always EQ in the DAW too. PS: People watch SMG videos because Glen is the Mythbusters of home recording.

    • @kriswhite91
      @kriswhite91 Рік тому +25

      Because they have to sell stuff, and marketing is the way to do it.

    • @therealone1288
      @therealone1288 Рік тому +8

      @@abandoned-mines-novascotia yeah for high gain not so much. Crunch and cleans definitely

  • @primovictorian
    @primovictorian Рік тому +77

    The main message I took away is that unless your pickups are busted, there are a few other things you should be checking that would have a bigger effect on your tone

    • @NWTMasterWolf
      @NWTMasterWolf Рік тому +14

      Exactly. It seems to me the only real change is when you have absolute junk and replace it with something decent at least and then it's mostly clarity IMO.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid Рік тому

      Well, he didn't have to change the pickups at over $100. Stronger or longer springs $2 + shipping if you don't know you can find wall anchors to take them from for under $1 each at any hardware store if they don't have just the right ones in their spring selection for even less! Foam from any old packaging would have done the trick too, although some types of foam hold their strength better than others over time.

    • @chrisparker5278
      @chrisparker5278 Рік тому +5

      @@Bob-of-Zoidwhat are you on about‽

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid Рік тому +1

      @@chrisparker5278 "Read and understand"! It's not up to interpretation, and all words are used to their correct definitions! Sorry, I can't teach you how to read and understand in a few replies, you need to get that education elsewhere, like a school.

    • @sparella
      @sparella Рік тому +1

      @@Bob-of-Zoid Perhaps you could clarify exactly which spring(s) you're referring to? Sometimes undereducated plebians like myself require additional context.

  • @MetalHeadProductions
    @MetalHeadProductions Рік тому +4

    Changing pickups doesn't get that massive shift, no, but it does make a difference for sure. Comes down to what sounds and feels good for the player. I don't want my guitar to fight me, I just want it to hit the amp the way I want, and pushes certain frequencies the way I want. Fuzz can also be really picky about the kind of pickups.
    My last large pickup shootout I made sure to let everyone know the differences won't be massive, that it comes much more down to the amp, cab, speakers and mics. I also showed clean, crunch and high gain to show how it pushes the amps. Never would I ever say pickups are going to be a massive make or break for tones.

  • @jasonthielman
    @jasonthielman Рік тому +9

    As someone who plays clean 90% of the time, and rarely plays with heavy distortion this is really helpful.
    I am shopping for a guitar to keep in drop C and it makes it much easier to not have to worry about pickups so much.

  • @scottg8660
    @scottg8660 Рік тому +149

    The pickups do sound different but it's very subtle compared to the other differences in speaker and mic placement. I think the pickups accentuate one specific detail in one's playing style. Definitely the speaker, cab, and mic/mic placement are by far the biggest effect on tone. Great vid!

    • @6stringstorulethemall967
      @6stringstorulethemall967 Рік тому +22

      And you won't hear the subtle difference in a full mix and much less live

    • @tylerlennon9955
      @tylerlennon9955 Рік тому +9

      @@6stringstorulethemall967 you wouldn’t, but I suppose subtle differences can positively effect your practice. Really does just come down to the player and what they want, I’d love to see a video on bass pickups through a D.I. but Idk if that’s Glenn’s market as much lol

    • @jimbofet
      @jimbofet Рік тому +5

      Yeah, differences are there, but nothing beyond what can be achieved with EQ. I decided long ago to not worry about the pickups in any of my guitars and get a good EQ pedal, something most players forget to (or procrastinate on) adding to their board. Saves a ton of cash and worry to use one pedal to rule them all. That said, I like the Alnico, if I had to pick one.
      Edit: I want to be more clear: an EQ pedal at the front of the pedal board, before most other pedals, shapes the sound of the guitar early in your signal chain, effectively compensating for any issues your pickups might be causing. It’s more practical than buying replacement pickups. My EQ pedal is also Midi switchable with 128 presets, so I can have custom tones for every song (or different tones within a song). You can’t do that by swapping pickups.

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic Рік тому +1

      If you continued with that logic on everything your song would have issues... logically.

    • @Anjohl
      @Anjohl Рік тому +1

      @@6stringstorulethemall967 ding ding ding! So many guitarists evaluate things based on their "bedroom tone"; when the in the mix tone will be completely different!

  • @mophead7759
    @mophead7759 Рік тому +31

    in my opinion the differences are so minimal the only reason i could see for swapping pickups is if a pickup doesn’t work or is a cheap microphonic pickup. this video actually definitely helped me actualize how to achieve certain tones without having the prospect of new gear that wont change anything shoved down my throat. definitely going to start investing in better speakers and microphones now! thx glen, this video was super helpful as usual

    • @gilbertotoledo1421
      @gilbertotoledo1421 Рік тому +6

      Don't forget aesthetics. Nothing wrong with changing your regular humbuckers for rail humbuckers or EMGs if you think they look cooler and that's it.

    • @spodevids
      @spodevids Рік тому +1

      I recommend auditioning pickups using direct pre-amp in on reference speakers, or studio headphones. The major difference is going to be the harmonic content, and the resonance at the low pass knee. Having more extended harmonics is going to give you more flexibility with your clean tones.

  • @thomaswagner6495
    @thomaswagner6495 29 днів тому

    Excellent work. Thank you!

  • @Sloozer45
    @Sloozer45 Рік тому

    Well done. Fantastic, valuable info! Very appreciative.

  • @JensLarsen
    @JensLarsen Рік тому +46

    Great video! I have to say that changing pickups on one of my guitar really made a huge difference, but of course, I don't do a ton of power chords with distortion in my playing, so that difference would maybe not come across here.

    • @BoltRM
      @BoltRM Рік тому +4

      This is why when a UA-camr compares pickups, I want to hear clean tones rather than distorted.
      Stressing that he is referring to heavy metal distortion, when saying pickups don't affect tone, might be an important factor going forward.

    • @mortusdominus
      @mortusdominus Рік тому +3

      @@BoltRM If you run a clean tone, no compression, outside of a mix, in a quiet environment you will hear all sorts of things. Warmoth even did a video comparing steel to nickel frets and you could hear a difference. But who plays like that? So it only really matters what you can hear with the gain, effects, and whatever else, in a mix. Only thing I want to see is the pickups put on a scope and see the graph.

    • @dumpedcabledumpedcable116
      @dumpedcabledumpedcable116 Рік тому

      @@mortusdominus a lot of people play solo electric guitar.

    • @niklev8465
      @niklev8465 5 місяців тому

      Everybody can hear a huge difference when swapping pickups. It didn't cross your mind that for the last test he's using the same pickup to prove he was right. Changing the eq of the amp, a very little bit, to make you hear a very small difference. Everybody that did swap pickups know this test is fake, and the guy too.

  • @brendansisco490
    @brendansisco490 Рік тому +50

    I think it would be cool to see you do a comparison of High to Low output pickups with similar characteristics, then get 2 pickups that are around the same output but are supposed to have very different characteristics and see which has the biggest difference, all from the same manufacturer. Dimarzio has ratings for EQ and Output for all their pickups.

    • @gnarlantlers70
      @gnarlantlers70 Рік тому

      Turn down your volume knob on your guitar little bit by little bit and compare. That will be damn near identical to a pickup shootout.

    • @sparella
      @sparella Рік тому

      There is a good demonstration video of one pickup with under-, normal-, and over-wound taps going to a switch, so the ONLY variable is the number of turns, iow coil resistance: 5.81K, 6.93K and 8.52K. ua-cam.com/video/mMjfqGJy5bI/v-deo.html

    • @bradleyard4195
      @bradleyard4195 Рік тому

      @@sparella That's not a good demo, as he has each pickup in a different position on the guitar, which makes a big difference in tone in and of itself. If he was comparing them all in just the bridge or neck position, that would be valid.

    • @sparella
      @sparella Рік тому

      @@bradleyard4195 There is only one pickup installed in the guitar.

    • @brendansisco490
      @brendansisco490 Рік тому

      @@gnarlantlers70 Depending on the guitar and the volume pot you have it that may or may not work, some cheap pots roll off tons of high end when you roll the volume down. But that's why we test, we could all speculate on that working or low and high output pickups being a bigger difference in how it reacts to an amp or pedals, that's what we do tests for, i think it would be a cool test to do.

  • @joshsmith7033
    @joshsmith7033 Рік тому

    Happy new year Glen!!! Love you man.

  • @thewebhead6977
    @thewebhead6977 Рік тому +76

    I noticed a massive difference in chord clarity and tightness/note definition between my old set of Air Norton/Tone Zone vs. a Bareknuckle Juggernaut set. It was definitely worth the investment for me, but you're right, sometimes the differences between them are minuscule and proper EQing can help out!

    • @Dm3qXY
      @Dm3qXY Рік тому +6

      i have noticed an improvement in clarity in my sound (and also playing, because we react to what we hear, playing wise) even by learning to tweak a low cut EQ on my raw signal before the effects chain (i play guitar via Reaper, with plug-ins); if the slight difference you hear made you react different to it, and you fine tuned your technique around that, on the fly, then maybe that's what you're actually perceiving, a bigger change that is the result of what you started with a small change.. to me, some of those small flavor nuances count quite alot.

    • @fernandolopes2544
      @fernandolopes2544 Рік тому +2

      Bkps is something else. The difference is huge.

    • @thewebhead6977
      @thewebhead6977 Рік тому +2

      @@fernandolopes2544 it's true! I have the Juggernaut and Ragnarok sets. My one gripe is that I have to get a DI box for my Rag equipped guitar because it overloads basically everything! Haha

    • @LilBoyHexley
      @LilBoyHexley 7 місяців тому +4

      I think the question is could that difference have just been down to a preferred default EQ? Like, was it actually impossible to get a sound you liked out of the other pickups, or did the new ones just sound more to your preference out of the box on your particular setup.
      Pickups can sound different to be sure, different output levels and EQ, but when actually tested- particularly with gain -it seems like you can ultimately get most humbuckers to sound pretty similar with EQ and gain adjustments. So like yeah, if you just drop in new pickups you'll get a new sound, but when you bring distortion into the mix and start turning knobs it seems like the question becomes pretty muddy.
      It's just I've listened to a lot of A/B testing and it just seems like picking out an objectively inferior pickup is tough.
      The reason I'm dubious is most people swapping out their pickups aren't A/B testing and trying to get pickups to sound close to eachother, they're dropping in new pickups and saying "do I like this?". Which is valid, but not accurate as to how different the quality between pickups actually it.

    • @DrMurdercock
      @DrMurdercock 7 місяців тому

      did 600 bucks in pick ups really justify the price though? Honest....@@thewebhead6977

  • @lorenzocaliani1st185
    @lorenzocaliani1st185 Рік тому +83

    There's definitely a much more noticeable tonal difference in moving around mics/swapping cabs than having different pick-ups!

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 Рік тому +14

      I offered Glenn two extremely different sounding humbuckers for free no strings attached but he refused, he's just click baiting! Pickups make a huge difference IF you turn the gain down...notice he didn't do a clean demo?

    • @6NZTrucking
      @6NZTrucking Рік тому +14

      @@murrayguitarpickups9545 incase you haven't noticed this isn't a channel about clean tones and all that we are solely based around metal and heavy music not pop 👍

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 Рік тому +12

      @@6NZTrucking So why doesn't Glenn just say this only applies to metal? .....because this test is absolutely useless for comparing the dynamics of each pickup which is where the real tone difference is! No...just drown everything in gain till it all sounds the same! This is why people think metalheads are morons

    • @dejaeviz
      @dejaeviz Рік тому +10

      @@murrayguitarpickups9545 People think metal heads are morons ? when i was in school it was the smartest kids that were metalheads.
      Why does Glenn have to SAY something about his channel that has been apparent for years ?

    • @6NZTrucking
      @6NZTrucking Рік тому +6

      @@murrayguitarpickups9545 because it doesn't matter what genre it is clean or wirh gain the biggest influence on tone is the speakers/cab or impulse responses. You can argue all you like but pickups and amps play a minute role in the whole picture.. no one thinks metal heads are morons besides boomers and close minded people such as yourself 🤣

  • @StaticR
    @StaticR Рік тому +58

    probably would be a good idea to rank all the pieces in a signal chain based on how much they do or don't affect the tone, from "tonewood", strings, picks, pickups, cable, amp/tubes, speaker, cab, mic and whatever else I missed alongside what kinds of changes can be expected and a demonstration for each for us to see/hear how the changes play out.

    • @felderup
      @felderup Рік тому +6

      jim lil did that stuff, glenn could have him on, that might be cool... patreon him some airfare.

    • @ThrashingBasskill
      @ThrashingBasskill Рік тому

      The problem is that there are way to many variables for a standardized testing process. Even comparing strings in the same guitar is absolutely useless because A. you don't always strum the strings in the same way and B. about 0.0000000% of people will have the exact gear in the same exact room as you do while doing the test so it would only prove that there IS maybe a difference but not to which extend.

    • @nobnobnobnob
      @nobnobnobnob Рік тому

      @@felderup I think Glen already did that here

    • @felderup
      @felderup Рік тому

      @@nobnobnobnob it looks like.

    • @FairyCRat
      @FairyCRat Рік тому

      I feel like as a general rule of thumb, the later it comes in the signal chain, the easier it is to get a big difference by changing it.

  • @Slappedkat
    @Slappedkat Рік тому

    Thanks for doing this video, very informative.

  • @cloudjarmusic
    @cloudjarmusic Рік тому

    💯🙌🏼 great video !! I like the energy 🔥

  • @jerwolf8961
    @jerwolf8961 Рік тому +32

    I’ve found that I can affect my tone much more with a relatively cheap EQ pedal. My cheap EQ pedal also has an output level adjustment with a WAY wider range than anything I’ve ever experienced swapping out humbuckers.

    • @Dram1984
      @Dram1984 Рік тому +8

      A 10 band EQ pedal basically eliminates the need to have different guitars.

    • @mcinen67
      @mcinen67 Рік тому

      In my pedalboard, all 3 distortion pedals have their own eq pedal, but they share the same overdrive pedal that is placed in front. The signal flow becomes: od > distortion > eq

    • @kronabus199a
      @kronabus199a Рік тому

      Too many people sleep on an EQ pedal. One amp, a good boost, a 10 band EQ, and a couple of cabs/speakers/IR will get you in the ballpark of a lot of your favorite tones.

    • @Sevetamryn
      @Sevetamryn Рік тому +1

      EQ - widely underrated ... has also great effect to overdrive / distortion and you can try pre / post.

    • @nunes1907
      @nunes1907 Рік тому

      @@mcinen67 why? I mean, od + distortion... Can't you get the same result using only distortion+eq? (yep, I may sound like a noob, but I'm not afraid to ask... 🙂)

  • @ravenslaves
    @ravenslaves Рік тому +90

    I've said it before, Metal stands out as a genre where dynamics are pretty much eliminated. Which is where you hear the most differences from any instrument, of any kind. Turn up the gain and crank a keytar or accordion and you'll get there too.

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 Рік тому +12

      You are the smartest person here i think

    • @somethingelsedoesmatter
      @somethingelsedoesmatter Рік тому +4

      When I was a kid, I had drums but no guitar yet. I recorded a cover of We Will Rock You, and for the solo, I ran a mic through a Boss HM-2 and recorded me playing an approximation of the guitar solo on a small, old organ. It sounded so good - very similar to a guitar. I was surprised how close I got to the real solo, considering I didn't know how to play organ, either. lol
      Edit: wow, I am feeling my age - my memory is not quite what it used to be... I must not have used an HM-2 because I didn't actually get one until I had a guitar. I must've just placed the mic right inside the organ to overload the capsule to create the distorted effect.

    • @strychen
      @strychen Рік тому +5

      Mainstream metal.. (fill in with everything else you said)
      As a stoner/doom metalhead, it's a different story.

    • @murrayguitarpickups9545
      @murrayguitarpickups9545 Рік тому +4

      @@strychen I love MUFF!! I get so bored with the mainstream metal sound give me a big fuzzy doomy stoner sound

    • @strychen
      @strychen Рік тому +1

      @@murrayguitarpickups9545 all the noms, my brother!!!!! I own every model of muff. Muff is life!

  • @shanelaing4402
    @shanelaing4402 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely loved this video. Different approach to testing. You got me each time with the changing cabs and mics 😂
    Well done. ❤
    Thank you 🙏

  • @mainquest_official
    @mainquest_official 8 місяців тому +2

    I found your channel by doing my general music and recording tricks research. I am not your standard metal enthousiast (I love some hard rock, nightwish, viking metal here and there) but your content is so valuable. Thank you for being so honest and taking the time to make these videos!

  • @The_knife_master6661
    @The_knife_master6661 Рік тому +60

    I would love to see you do a experiment with passive vs active pickups see if we could tell a difference!

    • @yourmetalgod69
      @yourmetalgod69 Рік тому +14

      Active pickups tone shape using the active circit so there is a 100% difference there is no point in this. the biggest issue you hear with them is the compression fron the circit which has or can be overcome.

    • @sparella
      @sparella Рік тому +2

      Use a long enough instrument cable and the passive pickup will lose all highs while the buffered pickup won't.

    • @petegaslondon
      @petegaslondon Рік тому

      Thing is there's so many variables - a passive just drives a pot and a length of cable - an active depends on the electronics, which can be inside and outside the PU - a fair bit of EQ etc can happen there .. People use the term "compressed" about actives, particularly EMG's .. Wonder if we could x-ray one to see if theres actual compression in the circuitry?

    • @jeremiahcooper3172
      @jeremiahcooper3172 Рік тому

      Sonic Drive Studios has one that does a comparison of various active and passive pickups in the same guitar

    • @damiengreen28
      @damiengreen28 Рік тому

      yet me save him the time, yes, you can.

  • @guitarandgames1386
    @guitarandgames1386 Рік тому +79

    I love everyone in the comments huffing on glue and screaming "NO MY PICKUPS HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, I PAID 200$ FOR A DIMEBUCKER IT HAS TO MAKE ME A BETTER PLAYER"

    • @gilbertspader7974
      @gilbertspader7974 Рік тому +7

      It's gotta be the shoes 👞.

    • @guitarandgames1386
      @guitarandgames1386 Рік тому +4

      @Gilbert Spader nah man it's the tone screws in the 3000$ pedal

    • @mk7073
      @mk7073 Рік тому +3

      How dare you. I upgraded my pickups to DiseymourMG Model 100 Advanced Extra Pro++ and they made it easier to learn Smoke on the Water, so I know what I'm talking about

    • @chrislariviere3669
      @chrislariviere3669 Рік тому +5

      Ooooof, the Dimebucker.... Slapping Dime's name on that was an insult 🤣

    • @kenjincapers
      @kenjincapers Рік тому +1

      Meanwhile I'm just happy I finally have a humbucker to install single coils and metal are uh tricky. Especially cheaply made single coils. (See near microphonic)

  • @billyjones337
    @billyjones337 Рік тому

    That is a brilliant idea...the hot swap out pickups. I first saw this brilliant idea over 5 years ago when I stumbled across Relish guitars made in Sweden. Absolute genius. I love your videos. Straight to the point. You make it entertaining Glenn. If it wasn't for you and your channel I would not have learnt what I now know about recording metal. I am only an amateur but all the knowledge you share is gold. Thanks dude and all the best for the new year. Have a great 2023 \m/...

  • @SkeledroMan
    @SkeledroMan Рік тому +14

    Having blades instead of pole pieces on a pickup does make a difference though, especially when you're doing bends. Makes the magnetic field more even so large bends get picked up better, especially on the neck pickup.

    • @blurry.magnets
      @blurry.magnets Рік тому +2

      My Duncan Jupiters are my favorite I’ve ever tried personally. They sound so interesting and unique. Especially clean.

  • @adammieloch8487
    @adammieloch8487 Рік тому +5

    For anyone interested in pickup comparison videos, this is a great source: m.youtube.com/@mikestamper
    Clean chanel is where the differences are obvious. But yeah... with cranked distortion, not so much.

  • @olivierhubertolituks
    @olivierhubertolituks Рік тому

    Video with tons of useful info and a lot of humour.
    It's like a magic position to put a smile on your face.
    Love it!

  • @albertplaysguitar
    @albertplaysguitar Рік тому

    This was great... definitely one of the best videos I've seen thus far form this channel! A real eye opener! I guess it's hard sometimes to realize that not all aspects of the guitar rig have the same degree of importance in terms of palpable effect! Especially when it comes to tracking.

  • @brandonbryson3317
    @brandonbryson3317 Рік тому +11

    I’ve always noticed small not noticeably different tones with pickup swaps. Especially in the mid gain and cleaner tones. Sometimes it’s worth it, sometimes it’s not. Biggest difference I found was when I swapped the burstbuckers out of my Les Paul…sounded very trebly and then I put a 59/custom hybrid and it had way more balls and a thicker and more aggressive sound.

  • @JamesDierken
    @JamesDierken Рік тому +6

    Hey Glenn, just thought I'd mention that there are noticeable differences in output and clarity when pickups are wired differently (i.e. serial, parallel). For an experiment, I rewired a humbucker (which are normally in series) to parallel, which made the sound a lot twangier and the output became a lot lower, somewhat akin to a single coil. But regardless, finding a good set of speakers is still the most important key to your overall sound.

  • @mortemorphosis1104
    @mortemorphosis1104 Рік тому

    Ingenious video!👏🤘🔥

  • @danielleohallisey4218
    @danielleohallisey4218 Рік тому +4

    Gleeennnnnn! I really want to hear this test with clean sounds. Not arguing anything at all; just appreciate what you’re doing and wondering how much it applies to different situations. Thanks for the great work and happy fucking New Year!

    • @bobbykoalaproductions
      @bobbykoalaproductions Рік тому

      He’s gonna say “that’s not metal”
      Meanwhile the biggest metal bands in the world are known for having great low gain or clean tones

  • @Choji11
    @Choji11 Рік тому +7

    Loved this video, especially when you basically showed all the ways big name manufacturers might change the tone of the pickups in their own shootouts. I think it's been mentioned but I'd be interested to see the difference in active pickups vs. passive. Will active pickups give you more clarity or is the only benefit the added maintenance of swapping a 9 volt every 6 months. We now see that passive pickups won't make a significant difference in tone, but will active?

  • @phunniguy
    @phunniguy Рік тому +4

    So my comment got deleted or something, so I'll just drop this video of Keith Merrow testing a ton of pickups here, instead of only four that Glenn tested:
    ua-cam.com/video/KbRlcdNHYDM/v-deo.html
    And also, EQ before distortion is NOT the same as EQ after distortion, so pickups do make a difference in how the amp reacts to your playing.

  • @scottdahlberg4890
    @scottdahlberg4890 Рік тому

    Thank you for this.

  • @basskirkster
    @basskirkster Рік тому

    Your videos are great. Love how you mess with us 👍👍 great comparison in this vid

  • @godzillazf18
    @godzillazf18 Рік тому +4

    So I'm listening to this on my Adam Audio T7V and I notice a difference between 2 pick ups or so but it's not enough to make a sizable difference. Cabs, mics and mic placement make a huge difference for sure. great work.

  • @DudeMcGuybro
    @DudeMcGuybro Рік тому +5

    I can hear significant differences between the ceramic and the PAF, the Duchess just sounds like a hot single coil, no doubt. The ceramic has a lot more high end, scooped mid range. PAF's have a huge bottom end, and are more pushed in the lower mids. Blindfold me, and smack me in the head with a bat, and I promise I could still pick these out in a muffled room.
    Granted, changing speaker, or mic if you're recording is going to make a bigger difference, but I'm not going to act like pickup choice isn't a major component in the final tone.
    All I know, is that all of this shit still matters more than tonewood.

    • @gdawgs101
      @gdawgs101 6 місяців тому

      Agreed. Glenn loves huffing his own farts

    • @onerandombruh
      @onerandombruh 3 дні тому

      Tone comes from the dust specks that hide on guitar's mini cavities.

  • @jeffcornelison888
    @jeffcornelison888 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @paulmdevenney
    @paulmdevenney Рік тому +15

    I would actually love to see this detail with a few more pickups (Seymours ofc), and for cleanish tones too. I get that "this is a metal channel", but there are plenty of clean/pseudo clean sections interspersed through the world of metal songs. In general though, as long as your pickup isn't doing something weird you can always EQ it

    • @jtu2434
      @jtu2434 11 місяців тому

      He needs to try cheap as shit pickups too.

  • @csiszerg
    @csiszerg Рік тому +3

    Great vid Glenn! Pickup height and/or height difference at the treble/bass side also makes a tonal difference. I have 2 les pauls one with higher output ceramics and one with lower output paf like alnicos. I've messed around just a little bit with the pickup heights (mostly in order to avoid unwanted gain jumps when swapping guitars in a band situation) and they basically sound the same :) another funny thing - before height adjusting the one with tge ceramics seemed to have much more bottom end. "yeah the wood ages, resonates better" - some would say this but it turned out that the pu's were way to close to the bass side of the strings - as soon as you set it back to factory specs no real difference again :)

  • @ehdforlife
    @ehdforlife Рік тому +5

    I finally got to hear how little the pickups don't really matter. I think the only thing that really matters is clarity, and whether they feedback or bit.

    • @metalprophetPerkins
      @metalprophetPerkins 5 місяців тому +1

      Other than something just being terrible most pickups are very usable.

  • @danbag0815
    @danbag0815 Рік тому

    This video is pure gold ! I mistaken it with another video, that's also pure gold. This content is one of a kind.

  • @ryanAcumming
    @ryanAcumming Рік тому +4

    Cool video. Would be interesting if you made a video on trying to get an EMG 81 to sound like a single coil pickup with just EQ and maybe some other processing if its even possible. Would really like to use the same type of pickup for everything to keep things simple, not to mention I have that pickup in a few different guitars. Feeling that might be great for clean parts

  • @TheExoticXD
    @TheExoticXD Рік тому +6

    For me consistency and reliability are the most important for me. I have guitars with pickups that sound beautiful clean or even with light gain, but sound weak and not great with high gain and vice-versa. It's usually why I stink with EMGs. They sound consistent and sound good both clean and dirty. While I can hear slight differences in most pickups, it's not the end of the world if an 85 in the bridge sounds different then an 81 in the bridge to me if they sound good. Although one thing that I always wanted to know is if pickup covers change the tone ever so slightly. Great vid Glenn!

  • @rexomusprime
    @rexomusprime 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for making these videos and showing the truth of the matter. I really appreciate your work educating your audience. You are genuine and don’t hold back. Major kudos to you!!
    I am curious though, can pickups affect the high gain tone of melody or solos? You have shown that via direct input clean tones are effected. But since your main work is for high gain, you play examples using riffs, mostly multi string parallel 5th power chords, but not single note melodies (or harmonies).
    Have you done and a test of different pickups effecting (or not effecting) melody, solo or harmony tone?

  • @gabrielulibarri4391
    @gabrielulibarri4391 Рік тому +1

    So when I play my fishman moderns I have a push pull pot on an active pickup and when you pull it out changes the voicing and I get more bass output in the same pickup does that count?

  • @nicholasmullins3693
    @nicholasmullins3693 Рік тому +8

    You pretty much brought up the same difference that I heard. When you mentioned that one pickup had some more twang. Transient response is the biggest thing I noticed there, along with of course how hard it was pushing the amp.

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 Рік тому

      Yeah, the one that he said had twang...was the Duchess. It's actually a P-90 single coil, or a P-94 to be precise. The P-94 fits humbucker routing, the P-90 doesn't.
      I guess he didn't realize it.

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 Рік тому

      @@DerSilvano The 1st clue was the pole pieces down the middle instead of offset like regular humbuckers.
      It wont let me post a link, so see if this works.A company called Cream T. They got magical string amplifiers called Duchess P90.
      They reverse engineered 1963 335 ES pickups and made Duchess. But not a typical P-90. It's made to fit into a regular humbucker routing. Technically, that makes it a P-94. A regular P-90 is longer than a humbucker routing. The reason I say is because Gibson made the 1st P-94's a few years back, being more economical to have 1 less routing setup. But Cream T calls it P-90, prolly because it wants to avoid confusion or maybe copyright, trademark, or Gibson thuggery.
      But to be sure, it _is_ a single coil.
      EDIT:
      It wasn't a 1963 ES 335. It was the pickups from a 1961 ES 330 they reverse engineered.

  • @CascadianExotics
    @CascadianExotics Рік тому +6

    So, this does confirm a long time suspicion of mine that there isn't much difference in voicing within a range from XYZ brand...just different output and gain characteristics. Would definitely be interested in seeing a shootout between a similar flagship passive pickup from different manufacturers (ie: Duncan TB1 vs EMG H3 vs DiMarzio PAF Pro). Thanks for everything you do for us, Glen. And have a happy New Year!

    • @Asmogrim
      @Asmogrim Рік тому

      Yes, I came to ask the same thing. If the pickups, wood, strings, etc don't do much to change the tone, what would vary the tone between models and brands? The way the electronics are wired?

    • @CascadianExotics
      @CascadianExotics Рік тому

      @@Asmogrim honestly, there really isn't much to a pickup beyond a copper wire wound around a magnet. Obviously, there are variables that can be manipulated here, hence my curiosity. But, I've found that the material composition of a $1 capacitor on your tone potentiometer has more bearing on your overall tone than your wood, strings, and pickups combined.

  • @Heavy_Metal_EMS
    @Heavy_Metal_EMS Рік тому

    Im not sure if id get an answer from ya glen but its worth a shot! Im one of the bedroom players out there and ive watched the majority of the tone videos and makes tons of sense me and im taking your word for it. So my question is, i have a Mesa Dual Rectifier Roadser combo and it has V30's in it, now im not a fan of the bassy tone im getting from it and yes i have dialed out some bass but it does not as much. I like the modern metal sounds, and even running the Precision Drive in front of the amp still barely does enough for me, is there a speaker you can recommend or two? I feel like I want to combine two different ones in this combo amp to make it perfect! Anything helps! Thanks Glen!

  • @slavaukraini356
    @slavaukraini356 Рік тому

    Hello Glen!
    This definately made my day.
    Keep on busting ’em myths!!

  • @cornelius5595
    @cornelius5595 Рік тому +3

    I think swapping pickups made more sense back in the 70s and early 80s when peak high gain was a Marshall JMP and overdrive selection was more limited. Guitarists didn't have as much options available, and the focus was on getting the hottest pickups because that cost benefit analysis made a little more sense then to squeeze every bit of gain out of a system you could. We're blessed with amplifiers now that often have way more gain than needed, so I think we tend to forget that that component isn't as necessary now, and pickup manufacturers don't want to lose that market they've built up over the years.

    • @bobbykoalaproductions
      @bobbykoalaproductions Рік тому +1

      Pickups make a big difference if you’re plugging into a DI and want to experiment with less gain or play with different types of distortion rather than just modern tube amp gain.

  • @thombat999
    @thombat999 Рік тому +15

    Thats very interesting. Im a newbie and this blew me away! I really thought there was a big difference until your big reveal. Thank you for this. This is a perfect example of why experience matters knowing how things work and why a great sound guy is essential.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  Рік тому +9

      Thanks! I’m glad you found this useful! What would you like to see next?

    • @Dram1984
      @Dram1984 Рік тому

      @@SpectreSoundStudios 500k sub tit reveal. :p

    • @thombat999
      @thombat999 Рік тому +2

      @@SpectreSoundStudios I refuse to be your Butthurt of the Week bid (altbough I do find them funny) and your miniwar with Gibson is sorta dead on and funny too, but my 2019 Les Paul classic is pretty awesome.

    • @OnePixelBeyondStudios
      @OnePixelBeyondStudios Рік тому +1

      @@SpectreSoundStudios How about a video about dialing in guitar EQ for Mixing/Mastering? I am having a hard time deciding how much low and high to cut, and what makes for some good compression settings :) How bout some tips on things look for?

    • @adityaa953
      @adityaa953 Рік тому +5

      @@SpectreSoundStudios Active vs passive pickups!

  • @45scienceproject
    @45scienceproject Рік тому

    Let me ask you this. I have a Jackson Rhoads V which I gutted long ago, so I need pickups for it by virtue of the fact that it currently has none. I get that the speaker matters about a thousand times more, but I still need ANY pickups to go in there to play it. What would you recommend? I know it's not gonna impact the tone and I'm happy with my speakers, so I just need good signal clarity in passive pickups. I need 2 humbuckers. What would you recommend?

  • @dillonadelman2094
    @dillonadelman2094 Рік тому

    This video was brilliant! By the 2nd fast one I was listening to critically to guess what had changed! I knew for damn sure that the tone short wasn't the pickup! FU and cheers from BC

  • @TheZax85
    @TheZax85 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this test. I'm actually very surprised as to how little it changed the sound. Rock on!

  • @orkboy59
    @orkboy59 Рік тому +13

    A few years a go I swapped the pickups in my 2013 Epi LP. I replaced the stock pickups for the Seymour Duncan Hot Rodded Humbucker Set. I didn't get a massive tone shift, they are a bit brighter than the stock pickups though. What I did get was more clarity from each note.

    • @1972LittleC
      @1972LittleC Рік тому +7

      Ergo; there's a difference.

    • @MoreMeRecording
      @MoreMeRecording Рік тому +2

      Circa 2000 I bought a Yamaha Pacifica (aka "Pathetica") for $450. As a LH player it's always been hard to find guitars and I would often have to take what I could get. I couldn't believe how flat and lifeless the bridge HB was as well as the M, N single coils. This was for hard rock so I only replaced the bridge with a Duncan JB and the difference was very substantial, so much mid range push, which is part of the deal with these as I have 2 in my Eastman SB59-GD as well. I guess pup manufacturing has come a long way as those were absolute shit p/ups!

    • @RandysRides
      @RandysRides Рік тому +2

      Exactly. I did the same. Now the high leads don't make my ears bleed, and no feedback.

    • @luigigetsu
      @luigigetsu Рік тому

      @@MoreMeRecording you said it boosted the mids, can you not do that with an EQ as well?

    • @nicfrost3217
      @nicfrost3217 Рік тому

      Unless you measured and matched pickup heights when you swapped, that could have contributed to that slightly brighter sound

  • @iamamish
    @iamamish 8 місяців тому

    Wow Glenn, thanks for getting to the point so quickly - I watched up until 6:28 and you really demonstrated how much different pickups change your tone! Brb, I'm off to swap out all my pickups, and then I can catch the rest of the vid.

  • @dalejohnson1954
    @dalejohnson1954 Рік тому

    In the first play through I liked the first and last tones what is the gear you are using in them ?

  • @guitartonetopia
    @guitartonetopia Рік тому +11

    Pickups definitely make a difference, but they're to refine the last 5% or so of your tone. Many are similar in spec too, but I hear a huge difference between a vintage PAF and an EMG. If you're building your tone from scratch, worry about the more important stuff first

    • @sjs793
      @sjs793 Рік тому +2

      I can hear a pretty substantial difference in pick ups. I'd love to feed into what Glenn says but I think I'm missing something...? When I swapped out a J90c for a Dimarzio x2n in my Model 2 the difference was massive. So what am I hearing if its not the pick ups?

    • @jeffreyquinonez8964
      @jeffreyquinonez8964 Рік тому

      @@sjs793sounds like you’re hearing a change in the pickup sound 🤷‍♂️ lol

    • @Superman-pn1rx
      @Superman-pn1rx Рік тому +3

      @@sjs793 do you make A - B comparative with recorded samples of your guitar?
      Is the only way to really note if there’s a significant difference

    • @solosabbath8940
      @solosabbath8940 5 місяців тому

      @@sjs793 New strings, different strings, output/volume changes, different amp settings, or maybe nothing at all since by the time you switched it you had no recorded reference of what it sounded like before. Next time record a riff in your DAW and use the same signal chain on both pickup sets - probably won't hear that difference you think you remembered. Source: I have an $800 pickup set in my guitar and I don't think they sound "better" - they actually sound worse than the cheap stock pickups I replaced.

  • @TheAxe4Ever
    @TheAxe4Ever Рік тому +10

    I never changed a pickup for a “massive tone difference”. They DO make a slight difference. It’s more for fine tuning your tone instead of using it as a building block. I knew Glenn was up to his normal fuckery in the first 3 tests. 😂. Because I never heard that kind of tone shift from a pickup change. That’s up to my amp (no…not the power tubes) and even more, the speaker. But what it does do for me (I can only speak from my own experience and no one else’s) is the feel of the guitar through the amp. And yes…..feel is a thing.

    • @groper6793
      @groper6793 Рік тому +1

      This guy doesn’t take feel into consideration. He’s set on telling you he hears no difference

    • @King-Ransom
      @King-Ransom Рік тому +2

      Yeah I don’t know where he’s getting the whole “massive” emphasis from. When I commented on a video weeks ago, I said actives vs passives have subtle but obvious differences. He replied and asked if I had any evidence to back that up. And that’s where I suggested he do a video about pickups. But yet he didn’t incorporate into the element what I asked. He just compared different passive humbuckers, which to me I already knew didn’t sound much different as if you compared it to an active humbucker (again like I said an EMG).

    • @martyshwaartz971
      @martyshwaartz971 Рік тому

      @@groper6793 tbf he’s a recording engineer. Sound is the be all end all.

    • @groper6793
      @groper6793 Рік тому +1

      @@martyshwaartz971 so he should stick to recording and not trying to prove professional guitar players wrong by saying wood, pickups, and a players had has no influence on tone. He’s f’d up.

  • @williamkeys8310
    @williamkeys8310 Рік тому

    Glenn I have a request for info! Would you please tell me what speakers I should look at to better the tone of my boss 2x12 katana for deathcore and metalcore??
    Also when I changed pickups in my PRS SE standard 24 I changed them for more note clarity and definitely got that 100% I know the pickups don't make a dramatic difference in overall tone but in my opinion every pickup I've replaced imparted a slightly different character like for instance the stock SE pickups were kind of muddy with big distorted chords the swapped in Dimarzio's I now have have much more string definition and a more crunchy character then before. would they make a 100$ guitar rival a custom absolutely not but putting a good set of pickups in a good guitar does result in a better sound.
    All my opinion of course tho they definitely do not change your tone day and night wise like but in a small way it does change it slightly
    Also f you glen love the channel, keep up the good work

  • @paulcarpenter2807
    @paulcarpenter2807 Рік тому

    Hi Glenn , greetings from the UK . Thanks for the pickup demo the biggest surprise really was the difference between speakers / mics and mic placement . Good job carry on 👍

  • @RR1976
    @RR1976 Рік тому +3

    A characteristic for each were apparent to me, even with all the switcherew going on. I wrote pickups down 1-4 and wrote down what I was hearing before you explained what was going on. And I did so the other two times. I ended up still having the same impressions. Whisperbucker to me is darker with sweetened overtones, duchess was tinnier than the other three, crossfire is less tinny than the duchess and a little more mid-forward, the last one is my favorite sounding and based on this video is now in my cue of a potential next pickup I might purchase... the crossfire alnico, has the overtone sweetness of the whisperbucker but not as dark. Don't bite my head off. I did totally get the gist of the message of the video, and I do agree in-part that speaker and mic placement have the larger game changing differences. There should be messaging to folks who DO have the money, its not the worst thing to explore.

    • @princeoinkins8408
      @princeoinkins8408 Рік тому +2

      I love how he just chungs power chords and says "look, the tone barley changed"
      "tone" (God I hate that word, it has no meaning) ISN"T just the EQ of a guitar. It's everything. compression, (or lack thereof) output/drive, sustain, the attack of the note, the decay of the note. things you won't hear while playing just power chords.
      Also, I think he kinda missed the point of the video in the first place. I don't think ANYONE, even guys like Duncan and Dimarzio, would say pickups have more effect than amps, speaker cabs, or mics.

  • @dispersemedia
    @dispersemedia Рік тому +3

    The type of magnet also usually dictate the number of wire turns, which I believe has more effect to the frequency response than the magnets. Off the shelf pickups rarely stray away from that. Therefore, the only way to have a significant change in tone is to have a pickup custom made. But then, there is very limited (physical) space to play around with the number of windings. So unless you actually change the physical size or shape of the pickup, a custom wound pickup would still be not too different from off the shelf pickups.

    • @sid35gb
      @sid35gb 9 місяців тому

      Custom pickups if you’ve got money to burn have at it. You can buy over wound and under wound pickups. As for space they can use a different gauge wire if they want to fit more turns in the same space. The differences in tone is limited and you can shape your tone with pedals an EQ pedal which will be more potent then any pickup. The biggest change is between types so single coil, P90 and humbucker. Try a P90 a proper one like a dog ear shape or soap bar shape they help with really heavy tones.

  • @larsfocken3456
    @larsfocken3456 Рік тому

    Hi Glenn, thanks for this video. I totally agree with you. I recently exchanged the Probuckers on my Epiphone Les Paul by Seymour Duncan Seth Lover Humbuckers. They make a difference only when I play complex jazz chords or triads over bass notes (I call this the "I Can See For Miles Test"). But this stuff is of course not metal.
    Does adjusting the pole pieces make any tonal difference or is this just output variation? I think it is just the output of the individual strings.

  • @djabthrash
    @djabthrash Рік тому

    Great video.

  • @PippPriss
    @PippPriss Рік тому +3

    First of all - good informative video, with a great learning, but I still want to chime in on a slightly different conclusion based on personal experience.
    I do hear a difference, especially between the Duchess and the other pickups, as you pointed out. Also, yes, the differences are small, but my personal experience boils down to how responsive my playing is reflected through whatever signal chain I have. And I learnt, that a lot of this has to do with high output/having the pickup close to the strings (for me, normally around 3mm on a Seymour Duncan SH-5). And high output in turn comes with a lot of windings, with in turn requires thinner wire to get those windings down to generate the hot output needed for this "attack". And that, total fine explainable through normal electro-physical properties, does in fact leads to a dampened higher frequencies (wire-specific resistivity and capacitive elements in transducers). And this can be actually counteracted by a lot of different things, such as unbalanced number of windings on the different coils of a humbucker, right choice of the magnet etc.
    So pickup winding and development in fact is an craft in itself, which has it's justification. But yes, this is a "cherry on the top" thing to look at, if you are looking for perfect optimization of your tone, and yes, changing speakers makes a greater difference in your overall signal chain.

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 Рік тому

      The Duchess is a is a P-90 Single coil. Actually a P-94 because it fits a humbucker routing. I don't think anyone noticed.

  • @tinted_7475
    @tinted_7475 Рік тому +6

    This is really interesting but I still would like to see the difference in cheap pickups something from an entry point squier or epiphone going up to a seymour duncan or dimarzio. This is really good at showing if you already have a nice guitar with boutique pickups that you need to change other parts of your rig before you swap pickups but I think the difference between cheap and expensive pickups would be interesting to see. Also if you found a a way to test a set of actives vs passives would be interesting that's always a discussion for higher gain genres.

  • @sixtiviris
    @sixtiviris 8 місяців тому

    I’m so glad I found this channel! I’ve been thinking of getting a Harley Benton Explorer version and getting some pickups, do you think that would be worth it ? (Mind you, I’m not spending $500 on pick ups lol) maybe I can leave it alone as it comes 😩 I want an explorer but I can’t afford the “ cheap” $1,200 Epiphone, but I figured I can get a HB and a few months after get some pick ups cause it’s the biggest complaint I’ve seen about those. Worth it ?

  • @Mega_trav
    @Mega_trav 5 місяців тому

    Hey Glenn, this was a really fun video! It makes me question choices I’ve made when deciding to change pickups in a guitar instead of adjusting their height. Obviously some pickups have more clarity or bass or whatever, but for your purposes in high gain and especially in a mix it means very little.
    I do want to ask you about question about speakers- aside from Vintage 30s what are some of your favorites?
    Have you ever played through Celestion G-12 65s or the WGS ET 65s?
    I had some a long time ago and I always thought they were smoother in the mid range than V30s but I wonder if that means they got buried in a mix.
    Keep on keepin on

  • @digiscream
    @digiscream Рік тому +7

    Tone isn't the only reason to change pickups, though (mind you, having a neck humbucker that's slightly single-coil-y even under gain, like the SD '59, is actually my preference). Pickup output levels _do_ matter - especially in a live context, where you may find that pickup with higher output gets you to the level of distortion on a maxed rhythm channel and you don't want yet another pedal to tap-dance on. That's often the case with Soldano-style amps, for example.
    If you really want an eye-opener, try Lace Sensor Duallies like the Red/Blue. With both coils on, it's a humbucker. With just Red, it's a different-sounding humbucker (really). With just Blue, you'd swear you were playing a high-output Strat.

    • @groper6793
      @groper6793 Рік тому +4

      Thank you, finally someone who know something

    • @blurry.magnets
      @blurry.magnets Рік тому

      Yeah, the 59 in the neck is actually really great.
      Upgraded guitars recently and while I thought I would really miss having full hum blades in my neck and bridge (Jupiters), I’ve got to admit that the 59s that are in the neck, while different, are really doing it for me. Also the splitting between the 59 and the full bridge bucker can sound interesting too.

    • @groper6793
      @groper6793 Рік тому +2

      @@blurry.magnets agreed, the 59 is a favorite neck position pup. That Dave Murray lead solo sound ! But ol loud mouth here will tell you it does nothing for your tone. His inexperience as a player has really been shining lately as he believes he has become a scientist lol

    • @digiscream
      @digiscream Рік тому +1

      And, of course, there are other reasons - for example, high-output pickups often involve stronger magnets, which pull harder on the strings and often result in reduced sustain. Cheap ceramic and neodymium pickups are sods for this, so pickups with weaker magnets but more windings in the coil can combat this to a large extent, but they're usually more expensive.
      Conversely, if you want the high output but your pickups have to be too close to the strings to get there, pickups with stronger magnets that can sit further away might be a good solution.
      Too many people focus on "tone" as the only reason to change pickups. The reality is that there are a whole host of practical reasons to do so, and not all of them involve "tone" (and "tone" doesn't even just mean "EQ", as seems to be the assumption here).

  • @JanXD
    @JanXD Рік тому +6

    Of course you won't hear differences between a PAF copy and another PAF copy, or a Super Distortion and something similar. But you can definitely hear a difference between some completely different types of pickups, like a Seymour Duncan Invader (really high output, very low resonant peak) and a Fishman Fluence Modern Ceramic (really high output and "pre-shaped" tone because of an active preamp). The Fishman has significantly less low end.
    Some pickups can also have a big impact on the response to your playing, compare an EMG 81 to a Lundgren Black heaven and you'll notice that the EMG will always kinda have the same output level while the Lundgren will get much much quieter if you play with less force.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  Рік тому +1

      That seems to be the consensus. Has anyone actually MADE that video, showing us exactly what happens in that sort of situation?

    • @JanXD
      @JanXD Рік тому

      @@SpectreSoundStudios I could make that video on response/dynamics, my plan would be getting a cheap guitar and wiring the pickups straight to the output, because actives and passives would need different electronics. It will take some explaining why I need another guitar and a few weeks or months because I currently have a lot to do though.

    • @DrGand
      @DrGand Рік тому

      @@SpectreSoundStudios Yeah, the one you referenced in the beginning of the video.
      Keith Merrow in the description of his video "As before, I used the same guitar, same amp tone, same mix, and same riffs. All of these pickups would most likely sound great if I were to dial in the amp according to how the pickup reacts to the guitar. But, for the sake of consistency, the amp settings are exactly the same on every clip so you can hear the tonal variations between them IN THIS GUITAR."
      Sonic Drive Studio also did a high gain pickup shootout ua-cam.com/video/BpudhuzqOX0/v-deo.html
      Are the differences worth spending $80 on a new bridge pickup for a metal player? Yeah if the guitar's proprietary pickup sounds muddy or doesn't have enough output, sure. But if a guitar comes stock with a good sounding pickup already then no probably not.
      It's definitely possible for pickups to sound like shit though; shoutout to Jackson's "duncan designed" and CVR2 pups. Luckily most dont.

    • @Komatik_
      @Komatik_ Рік тому

      @@JanXD Doing that would be a good contribution for sure. Remember to be very precise with pickup placement - as Jim Lill's air guitar video showed, even small differences in pickup distance from the strings has huge effects on sound.

  • @s1wheel4
    @s1wheel4 Рік тому

    Damn I need these. Looks awesome. 🤘

  • @antoniodimitrouvi9980
    @antoniodimitrouvi9980 Рік тому +2

    This is definitely an eye opener, but I always had cheap guitar with chinese brand pickups and I always played them through my katana mk2 amp. When I upgraded my pickups on a few guitars, it was a night and day difference. More clarity and less muffled i'd say? What's your opinion on this? Great video by the way, cheers!

  • @markmanbeck5210
    @markmanbeck5210 Рік тому +7

    I’d love to see a video on bass pickups, even something budget friendly like the Ibanez soundgear series has a three band eq and a boost and it would be really interesting to see a breakdown of how it actually works

    • @JaredNash13
      @JaredNash13 Рік тому +2

      I had been thinking about this. I could totally be wrong, but there is a substantial difference between a Dingwall Combustion and my Yamaha 5-string. I had considered buying the pickups from the Dingwall because I am a hardcore Nolly fan, but looking at this video, it might not be worth it!

    • @rhitosparsha
      @rhitosparsha Рік тому +2

      @@JaredNash13 that Dingwall tone is awesome, but I believe it's a combination of the extra long scale length combined with the fact that Nolly mostly uses the two pickups in series, which gives it that signature bite. I don't think it's easily achievable with something like a J bass.

  • @johnkirk6980
    @johnkirk6980 Рік тому +5

    Although the differences in the pickups are small and different mic techniques could probably achieve the same results, I did feel that the alnico pickups have more clarity to the ceramic ones, which in my opinion does change the tone.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  Рік тому +7

      Sure. VERY slightly. Not really what one should be worried about when recording guitar.

    • @DrBRockstar2000
      @DrBRockstar2000 Рік тому +1

      @@SpectreSoundStudios Exactly -- it's all about the SPEAKERS AND MICS!! 🤘🤘🤘

    • @andremagnani
      @andremagnani 6 місяців тому +1

      That's literally just a change in output though... Just turn your gain dial one way or another.

  • @cskaplan
    @cskaplan Рік тому

    Great comparison, thanks. I did want to let you know that something significant did change. When I turned up the volume on my headset the sound noticeably got louder!

  • @NOISWRX
    @NOISWRX Рік тому +1

    Once again an honest and true demonstration on guitar tone, Bravo Glen! Speaking of tone: (with the Iommi guitar sound episode in mind) how about an episode on how the Geddy Lee/ Chris Squire Rickenbacker bass sound is created, Speak of iconic sound which gives a guy an instant... well... you know... What speakers/amps/effects do (did) they use? Would very much look forward to another enlightening video! And yes... i'm a bassplayer.. as well as a guitar player. Cheers!

  • @jasonb8797
    @jasonb8797 Рік тому +4

    That was freaking awesome and I can hear the meltdowns! After seeing how you can change your tone, do you have any recommendations for mic and speaker combos? I'm a drummer that dabbles in guitar, so please excuse my ignorance. Keep on making these outstanding videos!

  • @shucrut63
    @shucrut63 Рік тому +3

    Pups sure do have their own EQ such as resonant peaks (the main difference between humbuckers and single coils ) etc, but it's so minimal and so early in the signal chain, going through so much shaping that it's absolutely negligible as shown. Awesome work Glenn!

    • @richardmetzler7909
      @richardmetzler7909 Рік тому +1

      I think the main difference between humbuckers and single coils is that humbuckers act as comb filters, suppressing frequencies where the wavelength on the string corresponds to the difference between the magnets.

  • @Lutzifer31337
    @Lutzifer31337 Рік тому +2

    i ve changed pickups in many guitars and mostly for hotter ones. So i always got the "loud is more good" response. But in the last few years i noticed that the pickup changes did not do much, sometimes even preferring the cheap ones, because of the clearer picture and more dynamic nature in the less hot ones. Thanx for making your point in a fun way :D

  • @NA-xm7wj
    @NA-xm7wj Рік тому +3

    I really hope you plan on showing some frequency mapping from each one of those pickups. Or whatever you’d like to call it

  • @Mr.Goldbar
    @Mr.Goldbar Рік тому +5

    I did hear the difference in every single test. I knew already that it's not gonna be huge and all about the fine details, and that to me is worth it.
    For the big difference I'd change the speaker, but if I found my favorite speaker and the perfect settings and something is still not right I'd get new pickups, especially if I'm looking for a different output.
    What is for sure is two things.
    1. The placement of the pickup is more important than the pickup itself. Even a few millimetres can do a real shift in the tone and that's especially important when choosing which coils to use in splits.
    2. The Dutchess did sound different, but that's because it's a P90 in a humbucker housing, therefore a single coil.

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz Рік тому

      Oh you and your magical ears, listening to a compressed UA-cam video. Sure, you really heard a difference.

    • @Mr.Goldbar
      @Mr.Goldbar Рік тому +1

      @@JustinLesamiz if that's called magical ears I wouldn't argue with that :)

  • @Mike6StringsIn
    @Mike6StringsIn Рік тому

    I knew this. Good test Glenn!

  • @LJB...
    @LJB... Рік тому

    Do pickups make a difference (besides having a hot level or noisy pickups) if they are directly plugged into the DAWs interface?

  • @wouldukindly8628
    @wouldukindly8628 Рік тому +5

    There was definitely a tone difference between the pickups. What next Glen says different microphones wont affect tone?

    • @nisterror
      @nisterror Рік тому +1

      🤦‍♂️

    • @MickH60
      @MickH60 Рік тому

      I think the biggest problem fo a hell of a lot of people is the way they hear things, heard most people try and sing, It's nauseating. I'm an ear player, I have friends that are taught players, great players, that struggle to tune a guitar without a tuner, I've NEVER used a tuner, I hear chords as a group of notes, not a whole sound, my point is, a lot of people listening to this video won't pick up the differences in sound between the pickups, I thought the differences, when Glen finally stopped fucking around, were quite big....

    • @bobbykoalaproductions
      @bobbykoalaproductions Рік тому

      @@MickH60 Yep, and also notice how similar the pickups are besides the P90, he’s playing all low notes and power chords and doesn’t turn the gain down or experiment with fuzzes or EQ

  • @SapperRJMorgan
    @SapperRJMorgan Рік тому +3

    From all the pickup comparisons I’ve watched I’ve noticed differences. But unless you’re directly comparing them they are subtle. Usually it’s more highs or more pronounced mids. The pickups can affect your tone when using a clean or slightly dirty amp but tend to be much less once you get into gain territory. Some pickups sound more dull than others but Glen is right. It’s one of the least effective changes in the chain.

  • @BIGBOPPER41
    @BIGBOPPER41 Рік тому

    Perfect timing since I was digging around for a new set of pick-ups. Thanks for helping, and by the sun, fuck you, and thank you. Happy new year

  • @TracyJonesTraceElements
    @TracyJonesTraceElements Рік тому

    Hey. I’m not a high gain player but I learn a TON from your insights. Thanks man, keep up the awesome work.

  • @mateuszw5194
    @mateuszw5194 Рік тому +9

    I would love to see active/passive comparison. For some reason I am always disappointed with actives when i try them and eventually change them to passives.

    • @King-Ransom
      @King-Ransom Рік тому

      I want to see that too. However, I always find myself choose active lol.

    • @ryanbwags
      @ryanbwags Рік тому

      Back in the day Actives were supposed to give you better clarity and more punch since the powered preamp would hit the front of your amp harder.
      I don't think that's the case anymore with a lot of new passive pickups with more consistent wiring methods and modern amp technology. I think It's just down to preference. I've never liked the way actives felt to me. I hate words like this but passives feel more organic and a little more real.

    • @kneztm
      @kneztm Рік тому

      I agree.
      The difference is probably just the amount of gain difference though.
      (My solos seem much smoother on my actives compared to the passives)

    • @blurry.magnets
      @blurry.magnets Рік тому

      Maybe it’s my head, but actives always sound sort of artificial to me. Although they do feel powerful.

    • @chadvarney26
      @chadvarney26 Рік тому

      I made the mistake of saying something similar a couple years ago in a comment and I was deluged with butthurt comments. I had people actually arguing with me over what sounds I liked. They tried to tell me that I didn’t really like what I liked. It was hilarious

  • @lydfar2392
    @lydfar2392 Рік тому +4

    From 30 years experience in producing and mixing metal music. I can confirm that everything on this channel is true. When it comes down to metal, it does not not matter: guitar woods, pickups, tubes, amplifier etc. It's just variants of noise and most bands sucks anyways... With other music genres, it's a different story, of course... 😄

    • @KasGikes420
      @KasGikes420 7 місяців тому

      Yeah you've definitely spent that ammount of time and effort mixing and recording a genre you hate. We all believe you, dude. You definitely didn't just leave this comment because you hate metal or anything...

    • @lydfar2392
      @lydfar2392 7 місяців тому

      @@KasGikes420 I was just just kidding... Joking with the main theme of the this series. Lots of irony and sarcastic comments in the video... 😃

  • @NicoMCH666
    @NicoMCH666 Рік тому +1

    Great video, thanks for doing all these tests (like the speaker subject, actually looking to swap the V30 - probably the old one - with a Hesu Demon in my 1*12 mesa cab 😈). Pickups certainly do not influence the tone massively, just in a subtle manner. Still can hear the differences between the duncan solars I had in my Solar and the Bareknuckles I put in afterwards (both passives). No real clue to what the differences really were but ya the difference was audible but not massive like a speaker change or a mic placement.

  • @waoneill
    @waoneill 3 місяці тому

    Thank you!

  • @BeanDogStudios
    @BeanDogStudios Рік тому +4

    I wonder how Keith Merrow got all those pickups sounding more different from one another than all of my guitars do, with different pickups, woods, scale lengths and strings gauges.

    • @saflex1613
      @saflex1613 Рік тому

      EQing or different amp settings for example. And because wood, strings and scale length make no tone difference

    • @static_motion
      @static_motion Рік тому +3

      @@saflex1613 Strings and scale length (assuming constant tuning pitch) absolutely do influence the timbre of the sound.

    • @BeanDogStudios
      @BeanDogStudios Рік тому +1

      @@saflex1613 pretty sure he claimed to have used the same amp settings for all the pickups. Must have a setup that massively amplifies tiny differences.

    • @MickH60
      @MickH60 Рік тому +2

      Probably because they DO sound different....

  • @brutesmagootes3996
    @brutesmagootes3996 Рік тому +14

    I only mess with passive pickups, so I can only speak to that, but they can absolutely sound different from each other. Does it make you play better? No. Does it completely transform your guitar? No. But it still remains a fact. Just like WHERE the pickup placement is on a guitar makes a difference.

    • @milamber319
      @milamber319 Рік тому

      cool. i look forward to your vid demonstrating that.

    • @brutesmagootes3996
      @brutesmagootes3996 Рік тому

      @@milamber319 Just because I don’t have a video for it doesn’t me make it untrue. I don’t have a video that shows I breathe, nor will I make one, so am I wrong when I say I do? If you think that there is ZERO tonal effect between different pickups nor where they’re located in the body then you’re either new to guitar or you’re beyond help.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Рік тому

      @@brutesmagootes3996 Where they're located is easy to demonstrate massive changes. No one will dispute that, so nice red herring.
      Whether or not different pickups will make a significant difference on how your guitar sounds is much more debatable. 'Can' is the most important word you used.
      Yes, they can make a difference, whether or not most people will notice is another question. Odds are, they won't.
      Whether or not the average player will notice seems to be inconsistent. Many of us won't necessarily notice if a blind test is conducted.

    • @milamber319
      @milamber319 Рік тому

      @@brutesmagootes3996 well Glen has a vid showing what you just said is untrue. So who am I going to believe. The vid showing its untrue with evidence or the anecdotal comment of someone saying it is true?
      If you want someone else to believe you you need evidence.
      And as Glen showed. Single and humbuckers are different. Where they are located are different. Noise rejection are different. Tone changes between the same type? Nope.

  • @RedHeadGuitar
    @RedHeadGuitar Рік тому +1

    Grrrrrreat video! I love how you fooled us over and over again, my smile was getting wider and wider, I knew right from the beginning what was going on. :D I learned this by pure coincidence when I was playing guitar for pfff...a year? Fun story goes like this: I walked into the practice room and saw my guitar teacher brought a fancy guitar over to the music school (I think it was some Framus). I asked if I could try it out and he allowed me to. I plugged it in (50w 1x12 Marshall JVM combo, I remember that...good stuff), dialed in some high gain tone (because more gain is more cool for a 15 year old, ya know..) , started playing some very uninspired riffs and discovered the guitar had an extra little switch. Played around with that and after a very short while asked what the switch was doing, because the difference was pretty underwhelming. A little bit of a shift in the high end but 95 precent of the tone stayed the same. My teacher kindly replied "This is a coil split and it's a very nice thing on cleans or light drive, but in the realms of high gain, pickups matter much less than you think, unless they're not totally muddy or noisy." Man, this advice has probably saved me a lot of money over the last two decades.