True...Jesus was not known as the great healer or miracle worker but as the Great Teacher. I just find it a shame that all the focus is on Jesus and heaven. He made it clear that worship of His Father, the source of life Pslm36 v9 was imperative. That life would be enjoyed here on a cleansed earth Mat5v5. This was God's purpose for humans right from the beginning. If Adam had not sinned where would we all be? Certainly not in heaven. .....just reasoning 💕
We worship the Father only through Jesus. And the Trinity can't really be separated anyway. When Jesus returns he brings the new heaven and the new earth. Eden restored and even better. You can't say everything in 14 minutes! Sometimes you have to focus on a particular point, or use shorthand. And remember, I am preaching in the context of the congregation in front of me . . .
@@melanieprince2497 thanks for the reply Melanie. Of course you cannot in 14 mins, quite understandable. This is just between us. I don't accept the trinity and that is why I left Christendom really, besides other dubious teachings. Xmas etc. Just curious your 'new earth' does this one get burnt up like evangelicals say or ? Thanks for the chat by the way,
@@melanieprince2497 Melanie thank you for your honesty. I wonder if you have looked at perhaps other understandings of those words. Firstly,LivEngT Ecc1v4 A generation goes and a generation comes, and the earth stands forever. So we see our planet aint going nowhere. LivE Ps96v1-3Sing a new song for Jehovah sing for Jehovah, all the earth (we know planet cannot sing) ppl sing. An interesting quote M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia (1891, Vol. IV, p. 122) comments: “In Isa. lxv, 17, a new heaven and a new earth signify a new government, new kingdom, new people.” Even as the “earth” can refer to a society of people Ps 96:1; so, too, “heavens” can symbolize the superior ruling power or government over such “earth.” The prophecy presenting the promise of “new heavens and a new earth,” given through Isaiah, was one dealing initially with the restoration of Israel from Babylonian exile.. Would you say this is reasonable understanding? I wont bore you with more but wud appreciate yr thoughts agape.
@@melanieprince2497 Melanie thank you for your honesty. I wonder if you have ever considered perhaps a different understanding of the word 'earth' LivEngT ps96v1 Sing a new song for Jehovah sing for Jehovah, all the earth! ppl sing so we can c that 'earth' can mean ppl. New Heaven A new heaven.” The Bible sometimes uses the word “heaven” to represent rulership or governments.Isa 14v12-14 Dan 4v25, 26 Thus, one reference work states that in prophetic visions, “heaven signifies symbolically the ruling power or government.” and another The Cyclopædia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, by M’Clintock and Strong, states: “Wherever the scene of a prophetic vision is laid, heaven signifies . . . the whole assembly of the ruling powers . . . being over and ruling the subjects, as the natural heaven stands over and rules the earth.” Ecc1v4 shows the planet remaining 4ever. Understanding these bits throws a different light on matters dont you think? Worth a look? agape💕
True...Jesus was not known as the great healer or miracle worker but as the Great Teacher. I just find it a shame that all the focus is on Jesus and heaven. He made it clear that worship of His Father, the source of life Pslm36 v9 was imperative. That life would be enjoyed here on a cleansed earth Mat5v5. This was God's purpose for humans right from the beginning. If Adam had not sinned where would we all be? Certainly not in heaven. .....just reasoning 💕
We worship the Father only through Jesus. And the Trinity can't really be separated anyway. When Jesus returns he brings the new heaven and the new earth. Eden restored and even better. You can't say everything in 14 minutes! Sometimes you have to focus on a particular point, or use shorthand. And remember, I am preaching in the context of the congregation in front of me . . .
@@melanieprince2497 thanks for the reply Melanie. Of course you cannot in 14 mins, quite understandable. This is just between us. I don't accept the trinity and that is why I left Christendom really, besides other dubious teachings. Xmas etc. Just curious your 'new earth' does this one get burnt up like evangelicals say or ? Thanks for the chat by the way,
@@stargazerblahscriptures just say that the old heaven and earth will ‘pass away’ Revelation 21:1. So I don’t really know.
@@melanieprince2497 Melanie thank you for your honesty. I wonder if you have looked at perhaps other understandings of those words. Firstly,LivEngT Ecc1v4 A generation goes and a generation comes, and the earth stands forever. So we see our planet aint going nowhere. LivE Ps96v1-3Sing a new song for Jehovah sing for Jehovah, all the earth (we know planet cannot sing) ppl sing. An interesting quote M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia (1891, Vol. IV, p. 122) comments: “In Isa. lxv, 17, a new heaven and a new earth signify a new government, new kingdom, new people.” Even as the “earth” can refer to a society of people Ps 96:1; so, too, “heavens” can symbolize the superior ruling power or government over such “earth.” The prophecy presenting the promise of “new heavens and a new earth,” given through Isaiah, was one dealing initially with the restoration of Israel from Babylonian exile.. Would you say this is reasonable understanding? I wont bore you with more but wud appreciate yr thoughts agape.
@@melanieprince2497 Melanie thank you for your honesty. I wonder if you have ever considered perhaps a different understanding of the word 'earth' LivEngT ps96v1 Sing a new song for Jehovah sing for Jehovah, all the earth! ppl sing so we can c that 'earth' can mean ppl. New Heaven A new heaven.” The Bible sometimes uses the word “heaven” to represent rulership or governments.Isa 14v12-14 Dan 4v25, 26 Thus, one reference work states that in prophetic visions, “heaven signifies symbolically the ruling power or government.” and another The Cyclopædia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, by M’Clintock and Strong, states: “Wherever the scene of a prophetic vision is laid, heaven signifies . . . the whole assembly of the ruling powers . . . being over and ruling the subjects, as the natural heaven stands over and rules the earth.” Ecc1v4 shows the planet remaining 4ever. Understanding these bits throws a different light on matters dont you think? Worth a look? agape💕