They tried to pretend this murder didn't happen, now their trying to assassinate the character of the murder victim instead of pointing the finger at the three murdering stooges, disgusting.
Arbery was a psycho schizophrenic, felony probationer let out after gun and theft charges. If the judge had kept him in prison like he was supposed to be none of this would have ever happened.
@@joegeorge3889 That is the only attacker/aggressor I see in the video. The others were only trying to catch a suspect who was prowling and trespassing in their neighborhood.
Typical "Blame the victim" defence. No matter what issues the young man had, it was unknown to the armed vigilantes...UNLESS there was a previous relationship which would show predjudice beforehand and adds weight to malice murder
@@Sonofyacob it’s just a tactic they are using to try and prove self defense. I agree. It’s a long shot. They should of known from the first two times trying to stop him. They chose their own fate. That’s terrible that someone had to die
Can I just make a comment on the comments and say compared to comments from a year ago you guys are so amazing. You know what you're talking about and you are on the right side. Thank you for giving me some hope!
What has happened here,because of his attire he is a threat,as demonstrated by the second cop arriving with gun drawn demanding he get on the ground instead of trying to disescalate the situation .
Exactly! You have a dead body in the street and the perps are walking around the crime scene, talking to each other and anyone else there. And they are allowed to leave with their cars and guns which were a part of the crime.
When I see such a young strong man taken down over nothing other than the colour of his skin!! I hope the 3 killers get everything they deserve while locked up and their families feel their pain every day to.
I can’t comprehend why when there’s a death the news brings up arrests, convictions and etc. what does it have to do with the young man being hunted down like an animal?!?
Because it establishes a pattern of behavior. Arbery was shot while in the commission of a crime. He was not jogging, he was breaking and entering and trying to take stuff that didn't belong to him. I will ask you this, what do you call someone who commits crimes? A criminal. There is no SJW squawking that will change that definition.
@@moorek1967 said "Arbery was shot while in the commission of a crime. He was not jogging, he was breaking and entering and trying to take stuff that didn't belong to him. " - No. He committed no crime that day. He did not "break". He may have entered the work site, but that is not illegal under Georgia law. He took nothing. Stop making up a false narrative.
@@UhuruFrontier Indeed. It should not be forgotten that McMichael Senior was delinquent in his training, including weapons training, for a number of years. If we're going to spotlight Arbery's past, then the past of the alleged killers is up for grabs too.
@Smokey Mafia really? Avoided? maybe they shouldn't hunt down people and murder them! A simple call to the police if they thought he was doing something wrong would have avoided this,but thats not what they wanted is it! They wanted blood they wanted to murder him and they did. Now there lives will forever be changed. They are going to rot in jail. 😅
@Rose Parker They sure did! The really sad thing is the guy driving who video taped this really thought when he turned that video into authorities it would show they were innocent! He whole heartedly believes this & feels betrayed. I just wish Arbery would have turned around & run the other way. They should re-open the Zimmerman case I agree.
@@MA-fg5hz stupidity they should of let him go an be home with family i.m.o Travis and Greg had seen ahmoud in there neighborhood lied about Travis’s being stolen from the car to fu k with you know Greg’s mean enough to do it an cover it up
@@MA-fg5hzactually, Mr. Arbery did try hard to get away from them, but they cornered him until he could no longer run away from them. Special Agent Dial from the GBI, who investigated the case, said that Mr. Arbery's decision was just to try to get away, when he felt he could not escape he chose to fight. Very sad indeed, they killed him for no reason whatsoever. 😢
Roddy said it all on that body cam when he said, "....and when he kept running, we blocked him in, whether or not we should have, I don't know ". Well, now you know.
Right I wonder if he found the answer to his question yet. Should we have been chasing him. I hope he hear his famous words do y'all got him in his sleep. The State Georgia Corrections got them for life
It's a status hearing to decide issues the defense wants to raise during trial such as calling the current and former DA's of Cobb County as witnesses, whether Mr. Arbery's prior conduct and criminal history can be used to aide the defense in their self defense claim, etc. Usually conduct of the victim and the victim's criminal history is inadmissible in a homicide case unless it has something to do with proving the victim was the first aggressor in a self defense claim.
@@Kinkle_Z I hope this isn’t too long because it’s asinine listening to this because Ahmaud seems to be the one on trial. Self defense should not be allowed when you’re the instigator.
Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. They're establishing facts that will support the inevitable conclusion that Arbery was out robbing, not jogging.
@@saraharrison6836 yeah true they shot that boy in cold blood. Do you think the neighbor is secretly relieved that Arbery won’t be snooping thru his house anymore?
Right and he was convicted and served his time. But yet the victim is on trial again but now for the same old theft and being a victim in his murder. What a clown show
If he was a juvenile what does this have to do with him being shot in the chest with a shot gun after being corralled by two three men in two pick up trucks?????
What they're trying to do is establish a pattern of Arbrey being a thief. Problem with this stradegy is that in order for it to be applicable, the McMichaels would have needed to be aware of this at the time that they encountered him. Edit: when the cops were talking to the McMichaels, at no time did the McMichaels mention that they were familiar with Arbrey or him having a criminal history.
LOL he was a robber who was out robbing and he got caught... He would still be around to rob today if he didn't try yanking a shotgun out of another man's hands.
So, now you’re trying to use the mental defense against the deceased (plaintiff) for being killed. If this isn’t a sly stereotyping attempt!! There is only one relevance. Ahmaud was tired of being harassed by people who wants to live in a sundown town. Ahmaud simply refused to tuck his tell and be harassed. The defense lawyer is clearly showing his prejudice!
The defense screwed up on this one. On the contrary, Ahmad, responded silently versus verbally from the park incident. Please, where’s mental illness? Defense is now a medical expert and father and and son acted as law enforcers. This is America. Shoot to kill and make medical diagnosis. No training required, no education required! If father and son are acquitted, the message, in my opinion…remove the constitution…just shoot. No, just STOP!
Defence Attorney is asking the court to have a forensic diagnosis assessment enter in the case But the States Prosecutor was sharp and objected,because it is irrelevant to the case. Judge agree.
Here we go. Putting victim on trial. The American way of convicting the victim. Charge and convict the murders. They lynched they had NO right to do it.
@@jborrego2406 They aren’t gonna do that because they want to get these clowns off they absolutely should just as they dragged Floyd even tho they killed him these mfs weren’t even cops and they did it but they wanna drag Aubrey it’s always that same a$s ish when that pigment is shaded fake setup a$s justice system.
This is a waste of time and court resources. There is no way this information goes to the jury because it has zero to do with this case and I'm surprised the judge has aloud this to go this far? WTF
It shows attitude problems, and displays his aggression. This is a part of why they ran him down. Takes brazen stupidity to talk to any cop this way, in any flippen state. Brazen to walk up into any house uninvited. Even the professionals are in over their heads. Travis is smarter - now! This is classic...
Can you imagine living there? Its like being in the dark ages. They tried to cover up a Murder!! I want to see EVERYONE involved tried for this, the police, the DA all of them and i haope its televised,
@@lialaliala2968 R u laughing at how stupid you are? Or are you trying to mock me? Either way you're a Big Dummy ☺️ look it up dummy. Robbery is different than putting some gum in your pocket and walking out without paying.
@@Refresh2b + I don't think you're a credible authority on the stupidity of others. There's a significant difference between stealing a few bucks worth of candy, which AA chose NOT to do, & a criminal conspiracy, {working with 3 accomplishes, for the sole purpose of stealing a valuable consumer electronic product, from a private retail outlet. A stupid person might not differentiate between a petty thief concealing a dollars worth of gum, as they pay for other items before leaving a 7-11, & a brazen daylight, high value {In Georgia, more than a decade ago, when flat-screen TV's were significantly more expensive, this was presumably GRAND THEFT, in the 3rd, or possibly the 2nd degree even, depending on the TV's retail price, & since he was outside the store premises, self-evidently ... knowingly possessing stolen property, as I'm certain even he would claim "I just forgot to pay for the only item we stole from the retail store, ie: a brand new {still boxed}, large sized "flat-screen TV," this young boostin' crew may not have had the funds to pay for the TV in the first place, meaning the theft was premeditated, coordinated, & obviously intentional theft of a high-dollar item. That's the furthest thing from a "petty" criminal act of low value theft from a commercial establishment. To burgalarize a residence in Georgia, {like many other states}, a suspect doesn't have to actually successfully steal any items of value. Next thing we know, you'll claim Mr. Aubrey was just an innocent jogger, instead of a repeat felon fleeing the scene of a residence he was just identified as having illegally entering, at a walking pace, & remaining in the residence for roughly 1 minute. Mr. Aubrey's extensive criminal history indicates "athletic running," or feigned "jogging" prior to comitting a long list of thefts, & burglaries from private residences, & retail outlets alike, both as a juvenile & well into his adulthood, was just his criminal "Motus Operendi" or common method of comitting a series of similar CRIMINAL acts. Resisting arrest with violence, whether it's a legal citizen's arrest, or a sworn officer of the law taking a suspect into custody, according to the laws of that jurisdiction IS NEVER AN INTELLIGENT DECISION. Nor is it moral. KOut
@@kellyowens1868 come on show us how stupid you really are. What time was the AA court cases? He wasn't convicted of anything, except a healthy lifestyle. McMichaels aren't allowed to detain anyone. That's called kidnapping. They have no authority.
@@ancelcole4404 exactly, and neither of those situations warranted him being chased, cornered by strangers trying to kidnap him and ultimately killing him. I wonder if some people would have the same views if everything they did in life whether documented as a police interaction or not justified them being shot. Sad that some people love pointing fingers and justifying responses that aren't proportional until it happens to them
It seems the defense attorney certainly just likes to hear himself talk. Mr. Arbery is not on trial. Unfortunately, the judge isn’t allowed to simply tell the defense attorney to SHUT UP and get to the point!
What doors any of this private information have to do with the murder of Ahmad. ?? He was just running, exercising and was chased down by those brutal killers
Arbery drove his car almost 7 miles to the Neighbrhood in his car .. parked his car then walked to the House in Untied Timbeline Hiking Boots.. When you can run 7 miles in untied hiking boots get back to me useful lying idiot..
@@mikeskidmore6754 you don't have a point u r trying to create a useless situation to justify your bias agenda don't assume, what we see is Bryan and son stock and kill
@@mikeskidmore6754 Well heck now we got to go to the army and tell him to stop using those boots because apparently rain boots is hard work do you need to get some exercise shoes
Next we have Ahmads kindergarten teacher. “Do you remember October, 1997, Ahmad taking three pieces of candy instead of two?? “ would you say he’s a career criminal?””
@pamelalawrence472 I would hate to find out that you're my kids teacher. I would beg the school board to oust you for your BIGOTRY. You're a teacher, right? Well, how about not corrupting those innocent kids with your BIGOTRY.
@@DOLfirst so what does that have to do with him being hunted down and murdered??? They weren’t police officers and he wasn’t stealing when this incident was happening.
@@mrslassiter2649 The strategy is as always is to "thugify" the victim. It's just a distraction like we saw in the Derek Chauvin case. Blame any and everyone except the murderer(s).
I am so confused. What does a shoplifting act have to do with being harassed and killed years later. Why is it even allowed to be presented in court on a totally unrelated case. Furious!! SMH
I do not think a court should accept any diagnosis, especially a mental health diagnosis as serious and complex as schizoid affective disorder, made by a nurse. Mental health disorders should be diagnosed by a psychiatrist with extensive expertise. Unreal imo.
In what sort of legal system is character assassination of the victim on a different incident admissible evidence? In the UK system this would be completely improper. The jury should judge on the merits of the case.
@@castishe40 now the three who shot him are career criminals. Travis is a baby daddy living off his mom - spending his days thugging around with guns but no job. Gonna spend more than half his life behind bars getting tatted up while the kid he couldn't support grows up with no memory of him. Careful with those stereotypes.
That RN witness must have gotten paid on the side or under the table by these crooked attorneys to come and say lies about Mr Arbery. And then, she's worried about her RN License? Her boss or whoever she's hired by must fire her on the spot!!!!!
Advanced Practice Registered Nurses can diagnose mental illness, as can Nurse Practitioners. You are not a Psychiatrist or you would know this. Nor would you use the general term " Nurse"
Right I am just now listening to this. She took a test on line. Then didn't recall anything about what she read online. She really helped the Defense. She must be friends with Travis. She really helped him.
I also love how he called it a 'routine stop' when there was no vehicle to be stopped smh he's an idiot. And regardless of how a person speaks to you, as an officer, you're supposed to conduct yourself a certain way and try to deescalate situations, not add fuel to the fire by 'matching their cadence/energy'.
Were you trained in how to speak with hostile suspects....uh so we mirror the language verbal and none verbal....Wtf. That's escalating the situation 101.
Not defending him, but he was only 6 months on the job at the time and without any formal communication training, which claimed he did not receive, he may not have known otherwise. I also want to point out that this may not actually be able to be admitted into evidence at trial because this body worn camera footage and interaction with the officer is uncharged conduct and can't be admissible as any evidence of a conviction. It also is propensity evidence, which is typically inadmissible to show that a person's conduct on specific instances indicates that an individual would've acted the same way in this particular instance. The judge seemed unmoved by many of the defense's arguments, but I guess time will tell. I think his decision of some of these motions will be helpful in getting an idea of how he might rule on similar evidence admissibility for trial.
No he later corrected himself and stated he was on the job for a year and a half. It does not matter what you do for a live anybody with common sense knows to not mirror someone who is agitated.
They Literally Hunted This Poor Man Down’ like one would a wild animals, Should be premeditated murder! weeks trial for a murder caught on video. Only in the USA
What's interesting to me in the second officer's testimony is that Travis McMichael regurgitated many of his statements. "Closing the distance, maybe he could be..., I wanted to find out..."
Frankly, it's ridiculous to come up with a mental health diagnosis in a couple hours of chit chat with a nurse and a nurse practitioner, neither of whom have an education specific to mental health. In my own case a definitive diagnosis took 2yrs with people who specialized in mental health.
You are 100% correct. To give you a perspective, an RN isn’t allowed to make a mental health diagnosis for any insurance company in the United States. Meaning, if you’re only diagnosis is from an RN, no insurance company will pay for an ounce of treatment. The professions that are allowed to make a mental health diagnosis are: psychiatrists, psychologists, medical doctors, licensed counselors, clinical licensed social workers and in some states nurse practitioners (which require years more education than an RN). This witnesses knowledge of mental health is frankly embarrassing, from the perspective of someone who specializes in this field.
@@maryb6672 Appreciate your going into a more thorough explanation of just how inappropriate it is for an RN to offer a diagnosis at all, whether physical or mental let alone after only a few hours of observation..
Just to give you another insight from a legal perspective in GA, the GA Board of Bar Examiners (the body that admits lawyers in GA to practice law) requires that bar takers requesting additional time for the bar exam due to mental illness or learning disability undergo thorough testing or have extensive recent and ongoing diagnosis and analysis by a person with a medical degree who is specially trained in diagnosing such disorders or disabilities. This is just to get extra time on the bar exam NOT to be used as someone's justification as to why they killed another human being.
They're trying to use his past acts to defame his character and therefor justify the suspicion and killing. Especially the mental issue that was never really properly diagnosed. A nurse and a Nurse Practitioner are not qualified to make a mental illness diagnosis, especially one as complicated as schizoaffective disorder. That's a very complicated, and new, diagnosis involving competing disorder symptoms.
So many Americans say they are proud of living in a free country. Not so free if you can't park your car where you like to get some sun and listen to music.
Exactly. The video makes it clear that Arbery initiated physical violence... In what world can you rip a shotgun out of another man's hands and expect to live?
@@jaybird4571 In Georgia, where they had a citizen's arrest law at the time that empowered ordinary citizens to pursue suspected criminals and all Americans have the right to arm themselves, it's literally the 2nd rule in our rule list we call The Constitution.
@@MrHazyDayz citizens have never been allowed to pursue any they suspect doing anything. It has to be a felony in progress. You tell me what they saw him do then.... I'll wait! I'm tired of you fukn idiots trying to justify blatant hate and murder.
@@jaybird4571 Yes, citizens have been able to pursue suspected criminals forever in Georgia... Here's the text of the law: "A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion." The McMichaels absolutely had reasonable and probable grounds to suspect Arbery of burglary and they had first-hand knowledge that he'd been trespassing.
Swollen legs, high blood pressure, fiancé, job, health ? Roddy Bryan has something better than both, life. He should have thought about all of these issues when he was using a 5000 lb vehicle to set up Travis for the kill.
I am so glad this video is saved and shared with the public. It shows how ridiculous the defense arguments were after we now see all the evidence. I have to praise the prosecution again, she explained the sequence of events so clearly. The defense lawyers are just try to create confusion. They can't prove Arbery ever committed any crime, other than trespassing. I especially like the part she ripped apart the mental health record defense tried to bring in.
So is Ahmaud Arbery on trial here? 🤨🧐. Did these three defendants KNOW Arbery prior to the murder? So...what does this have to do with the case at hand?
These defense attorneys.....he was diagnosed as schizoaffective by this random nurse who took a one time short online course with multiple choice answers for general mental illness who spoke to him for 2 hours. Oh, and a nurse practitioner, also with no expertise or diagnostic qualification agreed with the "diagnosis" by simply reading the evaluation that the rando nurse made over a 2 hour talk. This is criminally ridiculous.
His past should not/ be admitted in Court! That evidence should not be allowed or admissible in court!..this bullcrapp! He was executed in broad daylight..
Is murder any different in the day or the night? I believe they are showing this as a witness to his character.. assessing how he may have reacted when someone felt the need to call the police because he continued to enter private property. I don't think they are trying to attack his character, just showing how he tends to behave when irritated... as it shows how he may have acted when they attempted to get him to remain at the location until police arrived.
@@Mandy-nt2cs none of that matters. They had no authority to detain him or kill him even if they watched him trespass or steal, which they didn't. Open and shut case.
That's why they are in prison for the rest of their life you don't have any right to chase somebody and kill them for nothing hope they have that same energy in jail
That's exactly what I thought. And the cop kept saying it was a routine "stop". But how is it a stop if Mr. Arbery was parked inside his vehicle off-road and minding his business.
@@JustCallMeJaph they didn't acknowledge the part where he was on his knees hands behind his back and that stupid officer still try to tase him. Who's schizophrenic as they are trying to portray him.
I’ll be back for the trial cause this here is ridiculous….. so glad the prosecutor is sharp and on point AND simplifying the case for the judge by sticking to the facts. As for the judge 😕
It’s very common for people to walk into a house in building stage. Most people have done this, just looking at floor plan etc., he took nothing, damaged nothing. The defence so far are ridiculous.
This is so funny How they gonna try to turn the victim into a villain even though he was the one that got murdered doing nothing but trying to exercise how it be self defense when the victim didn't have a gun
Aumend Arbery charged a Man who was holding a shotgun and tried to steal it from him.. This Plan shows Arberys low IQ and Vilent Temper got extinguished ..
@@mikeskidmore6754 "He attacked......" Recommend you watch the probable cause hearing held in June 2020. You would know that Ahmaud had been shot in the chest before he grabbed the gun. Travis stated that he fired when Ahmaud squared up on him. Travis did not know if Ahmaud had touched his shirt when he fired.
Adult children walk into places where they don't belong, he (Arbery) is a victim of mental health issues. Seven years for Travis! Ya'all not qualified to address behavior with 2 pickup trucks and a shot gun. Fools - more victims for the system.
@@edwardruda7049 The Police do Mag Dumps on Joggers like Arbery every day .. and they walk .. Arbery was Charging Travis and he was trying to take the shotgun from Travis.. Thus he would have been amred.. an Armed Felon who took a hand gun to a high school basketball game when he was 19 years old was caught and Convicted..
@@KevinBradach The context under being a felon is one that is knowingly having criminal intent generally. I don't think Ahmaud's killers had premeditated intent to kill him outright. I believe they had intent to capture otherwise why would they waste their time attempting to take him alive? More to the point why would they issue orders?
@@julielevinge266 they have to determine if the McMichaels had reasonable and probable reason to suspect Arbery of burglary in order to determine if the shooting was legally justified based on Georgia’s citizen’s arrest law.
@@kim8928 please just teach your children to stay on their own property and keep their hands to themselves and we can prevent these tragedies in the future.
@@MrHazyDayz Yes, if those three men had just stayed on their own property and kept their hands to themselves, they wouldn't be in prison right now. I completely agree with your point.
He actually had no reason to approach the car. There was nothing going on about the car (simply parked) that should have drawn him to the car. Just because that area is known for drugs, gangs, etc, does not mean that every car/person parked in that area is engaged in any crime. He even said that he did not suspect any crime so why continue engaging an innocent person? He didn't even do anything about the suspended license because he knew he had no grounds for approaching this car in the first place. Then his partner arrives and weapons are used against an innocent person. This was nothing more than profiling based upon assumption of criminal activity.
@@jammerssteel1678 It was a taser which the cop was trying to use illegally. The first cop was still talking to Ahmaud Arbery when the second cop on his own idea decided to tase him. Luckily, the taser didn’t work. Mr. Arbery was allowed to walk away, not drive because his license was suspended. No shots were fired by the REAL police. If you think someone may have
I can tell the judge is uneasy with making a decision immediately. The defense attorney seems to want to talk in circles hoping approaching from every angle will get the judge to allow the medical records.
Can somebody check on Travis Mental Health for me now that he is in Prison. He told his Facebook friend he didn't mind going to jail. Sometimes wishes do come true. They seem to really wanted talk about Ahmaud Mental Illness. Ahmaud was 25 he was 34 . He should have been more experienced with life than Ahmaud.
@@dont_step_on_the_momeraths thank you for the correction. His mother is his representative and she wouldn't allow his medical condition to be known. The law is tricky...contradictory
What does a shoplifting charge have anything to do with him running down the street on a bright sunny sunday minding his own business whatever trying to make somebody look bad, what gives Travis the right to tell someone what to do he's not law enforcement he's just a jail bird now.
@19:45 there's no reason to make contact with the vehicle. Police must have probable cause to start an investigation. The pitiful thing is this officer thinks he did a right th. He is wrong, no different than the men that assumed he stole something from that housing site.
The point being made here (body cam video of Arbery in the car park) is absurd. Anyone would react differently to being approached by a police office than to being chased by 3 guys in pickup trucks with guns.
I don't understand how a judge allows that to be brought up about his theft, but the judge in George Floyd trail the didn't let the prosecute bring out Derek Chauvin bad behavior and bad conduct what he did to the 14 teenager and the 22 complains against him.
This isn't the trial. This is the hearing to decide if this can be included as evidence in the trial. Have to mention it here to rule on whether it gets included or not
At about 27-28 minutes after the objection.... I speculate that the judge was about to call Mr Arbery the defendant. Who’s on trial here & why are we in 2017?
They tried to pretend this murder didn't happen, now their trying to assassinate the character of the murder victim instead of pointing the finger at the three murdering stooges, disgusting.
Arbery was a psycho schizophrenic, felony probationer let out after gun and theft charges. If the judge had kept him in prison like he was supposed to be none of this would have ever happened.
Aggressive behavior and impulsivity are often found in paranoid schizophrenia and can occur during both acute and chronic phases of the illness.
@@crand20033 are u talking about Arbery
@@joegeorge3889 That is the only attacker/aggressor I see in the video. The others were only trying to catch a suspect who was prowling and trespassing in their neighborhood.
@@crand20033😈👹👿👺💩
Typical "Blame the victim" defence. No matter what issues the young man had, it was unknown to the armed vigilantes...UNLESS there was a previous relationship which would show predjudice beforehand and adds weight to malice murder
@peire M I don't know what case you're talking about. It certainly can't be the Arbery case because the video shows what ACTUALLY happened
He’s showing how unstable he could be if confronted, that’s all
@@KyleS88 Should have not been confronted in the first place. Did he physically harm anyone ? Should have let the police handle it.
@@Sonofyacob it’s just a tactic they are using to try and prove self defense. I agree. It’s a long shot. They should of known from the first two times trying to stop him. They chose their own fate. That’s terrible that someone had to die
Can I just make a comment on the comments and say compared to comments from a year ago you guys are so amazing. You know what you're talking about and you are on the right side. Thank you for giving me some hope!
That 2nd cop profile him and the entire department needs investigating. They harassed him and the defence team won't win
Why is a mardar breeze Mental Health Eva issue two years later people can always was in those. Of time heal themselves.
@@alicehood9308 What????
@@justice4896 😂😂🤣
What has happened here,because of his attire he is a threat,as demonstrated by the second cop arriving with gun drawn demanding he get on the ground instead of trying to disescalate the situation
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It's funny how police didn't approach Mister Aubrey's Killers the same way that this cop did on a traffic stop
Exactly!
Exactly! You have a dead body in the street and the perps are walking around the crime scene, talking to each other and anyone else there. And they are allowed to leave with their cars and guns which were a part of the crime.
When I see such a young strong man taken down over nothing other than the colour of his skin!!
I hope the 3 killers get everything they deserve while locked up and their families feel their pain every day to.
What does his pass encounters with cops have to do with what happened the day he was killed?
Yea same here. This has nothing to do with what happened to that young man....
he was murdered not killed. HUGE difference. glad they were found guilty. now the family has to fight to make sure they stay there for life.
I can’t comprehend why when there’s a death the news brings up arrests, convictions and etc. what does it have to do with the young man being hunted down like an animal?!?
It shows the mind set of the suspect his propensity toward violence
What has a 2017 incident got to do with the events of the day that Arbery was shot?
Because it establishes a pattern of behavior. Arbery was shot while in the commission of a crime. He was not jogging, he was breaking and entering and trying to take stuff that didn't belong to him.
I will ask you this, what do you call someone who commits crimes? A criminal. There is no SJW squawking that will change that definition.
@@moorek1967 truth !
@@moorek1967 said "Arbery was shot while in the commission of a crime. He was not jogging, he was breaking and entering and trying to take stuff that didn't belong to him.
" - No. He committed no crime that day. He did not "break". He may have entered the work site, but that is not illegal under Georgia law. He took nothing. Stop making up a false narrative.
@@UhuruFrontier "The incidents connects Arbery to his killer." - Explain
@@UhuruFrontier Indeed. It should not be forgotten that McMichael Senior was delinquent in his training, including weapons training, for a number of years. If we're going to spotlight Arbery's past, then the past of the alleged killers is up for grabs too.
Lots of victim blaming going on here 😡😡😡😡
That's the common approach when there is no defence.
@Smokey Mafia really? Avoided?
maybe they shouldn't hunt down people and murder them! A simple call to the police if they thought he was doing something wrong would have avoided this,but thats not what they wanted is it! They wanted blood they wanted to murder him and they did. Now there lives will forever be changed. They are going to rot in jail. 😅
@Rose Parker They sure did! The really sad thing is the guy driving who video taped this really thought when he turned that video into authorities it would show they were innocent! He whole heartedly believes this & feels betrayed. I just wish Arbery would have turned around & run the other way. They should re-open the Zimmerman case I agree.
@@MA-fg5hz stupidity they should of let him go an be home with family i.m.o Travis and Greg had seen ahmoud in there neighborhood lied about Travis’s being stolen from the car to fu k with you know Greg’s mean enough to do it an cover it up
@@MA-fg5hzactually, Mr. Arbery did try hard to get away from them, but they cornered him until he could no longer run away from them. Special Agent Dial from the GBI, who investigated the case, said that Mr. Arbery's decision was just to try to get away, when he felt he could not escape he chose to fight. Very sad indeed, they killed him for no reason whatsoever. 😢
Roddy said it all on that body cam when he said, "....and when he kept running, we blocked him in, whether or not we should have, I don't know ". Well, now you know.
Right I wonder if he found the answer to his question yet. Should we have been chasing him. I hope he hear his famous words do y'all got him in his sleep. The State Georgia Corrections got them for life
I am confused...what sort of trial is this....It seems like Arbery is on trial instead of the McMichaels and Bryan.
This is a HEARING to determine if the defendants can claim self-defense. I know...huh?
It's a status hearing to decide issues the defense wants to raise during trial such as calling the current and former DA's of Cobb County as witnesses, whether Mr. Arbery's prior conduct and criminal history can be used to aide the defense in their self defense claim, etc. Usually conduct of the victim and the victim's criminal history is inadmissible in a homicide case unless it has something to do with proving the victim was the first aggressor in a self defense claim.
@@Kinkle_Z I hope this isn’t too long because it’s asinine listening to this because Ahmaud seems to be the one on trial. Self defense should not be allowed when you’re the instigator.
Ikr???
Sure looks that way . Blame the victim
Ahmaud was already charged for those cases! Isn’t this case about the people who MURDERED him? UNBELIEVABLE!!
Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. They're establishing facts that will support the inevitable conclusion that Arbery was out robbing, not jogging.
@@MrHazyDayz they can't use that court idiot the judge dismiss that because it's not irrelevant to this case
Yes-um!
@@MrHazyDayz past behavior is absolutely a good indicator. That's the reason the McMichaels should never again see the light of day.
@@saraharrison6836 yeah true they shot that boy in cold blood. Do you think the neighbor is secretly relieved that Arbery won’t be snooping thru his house anymore?
This nurse can't diagnose she is not a doctor give me a break
This nurse is not a doctor , our nurse practice act only allows RNs to make a " nursing diagnosis ".....
Exactly! I didn’t think a Nurse Practitioner can diagnose either, only a Doctor.😢
From the sounds of things, Ahmaud Arbery needs represention.
Right and he was convicted and served his time. But yet the victim is on trial again but now for the same old theft and being a victim in his murder. What a clown show
Lol, basically
Shame..placing blame on the victim and he's not here to defend himself...shame on them
@@deena3003 they have none
Y’all surprised, this is THERE justice system. There world we are only squirrels trying to get a nut!!
If he was a juvenile what does this have to do with him being shot in the chest with a shot gun after being corralled by two three men in two pick up trucks?????
Jury will see straight through that...if not, the feds will
What they're trying to do is establish a pattern of Arbrey being a thief.
Problem with this stradegy is that in order for it to be applicable, the McMichaels would have needed to be aware of this at the time that they encountered him.
Edit: when the cops were talking to the McMichaels, at no time did the McMichaels mention that they were familiar with Arbrey or him having a criminal history.
LOL he was a robber who was out robbing and he got caught... He would still be around to rob today if he didn't try yanking a shotgun out of another man's hands.
@@MrHazyDayz go pick your nose.
@@joeblow5087 shouldn’t you be somewhere getting your 7th vax booster?
This prosecutor I'd love to be there.. she's fearless...AND KNOWS THE LAW
So, now you’re trying to use the mental defense against the deceased (plaintiff) for being killed. If this isn’t a sly stereotyping attempt!! There is only one relevance. Ahmaud was tired of being harassed by people who wants to live in a sundown town. Ahmaud simply refused to tuck his tell and be harassed. The defense lawyer is clearly showing his prejudice!
Who had been harassing him? I hadn't heard that part...
The defense screwed up on this one. On the contrary, Ahmad, responded silently versus verbally from the park incident. Please, where’s mental illness? Defense is now a medical expert and father and and son acted as law enforcers. This is America. Shoot to kill and make medical diagnosis. No training required, no education required! If father and son are acquitted, the message, in my opinion…remove the constitution…just shoot. No, just STOP!
Defence Attorney is asking the court to have a forensic diagnosis assessment enter in the case But the States Prosecutor was sharp and objected,because it is irrelevant to the case. Judge agree.
Here we go. Putting victim on trial. The American way of convicting the victim. Charge and convict the murders. They lynched they had NO right to do it.
Exactly this makes no sense so I guess we can just hunt people down and just kill them just because we want to some straight up bs🤦🏾♀️
@@qiaray1123 also why aren’t they talking about the murders past same with Floyd case
@@jborrego2406 They aren’t gonna do that because they want to get these clowns off they absolutely should just as they dragged Floyd even tho they killed him these mfs weren’t even cops and they did it but they wanna drag Aubrey it’s always that same a$s ish when that pigment is shaded fake setup a$s justice system.
Murdering him for a second time it’s sick.
@@lilys7431 Right and it’s dead a$s wrong.
Wow, these defense attorneys are a piece of work!
More like a piece of 💩
Flameing piece's of sh!÷
better call Saul'''LOL'
True. Unfortunately it is the only straws they can try to grasp cuz they have no case.
Typical of their culture and upbringing.
This is a waste of time and court resources. There is no way this information goes to the jury because it has zero to do with this case and I'm surprised the judge has aloud this to go this far? WTF
Is this pre-trial? Please tell me this is pre -trial...
@@missbehaving2178 Yes. Trial is in october.
allowed*
What does that has to do with this... How many years ago!!! Really!!!!... Bull
It shows attitude problems, and displays his aggression. This is a part of why they ran him down. Takes brazen stupidity to talk to any cop this way, in any flippen state.
Brazen to walk up into any house uninvited. Even the professionals are in over their heads. Travis is smarter - now! This is classic...
Wow !!! The whole town is corrupt.
Very true i have family there and it is horrible
Can you imagine living there? Its like being in the dark ages. They tried to cover up a Murder!! I want to see EVERYONE involved tried for this, the police, the DA all of them and i haope its televised,
Who cares about the robbery! It's has nothing to do with him being murdered 😒
Correction... shoplifting. Not a robbery.
@@lialaliala2968 R u laughing at how stupid you are? Or are you trying to mock me? Either way you're a Big Dummy ☺️ look it up dummy. Robbery is different than putting some gum in your pocket and walking out without paying.
@@Refresh2b + I don't think you're a credible authority on the stupidity of others. There's a significant difference between stealing a few bucks worth of candy, which AA chose NOT to do, & a criminal conspiracy, {working with 3 accomplishes, for the sole purpose of stealing a valuable consumer electronic product, from a private retail outlet. A stupid person might not differentiate between a petty thief concealing a dollars worth of gum, as they pay for other items before leaving a 7-11, & a brazen daylight, high value {In Georgia, more than a decade ago, when flat-screen TV's were significantly more expensive, this was presumably GRAND THEFT, in the 3rd, or possibly the 2nd degree even, depending on the TV's retail price, & since he was outside the store premises, self-evidently ...
knowingly possessing stolen property, as I'm certain even he would claim "I just forgot to pay for the only item we stole from the retail store, ie: a brand new {still boxed}, large sized "flat-screen TV," this young boostin' crew may not have had the funds to pay for the TV in the first place, meaning the theft was premeditated, coordinated, & obviously intentional theft of a high-dollar item. That's the furthest thing from a "petty" criminal act of low value theft from a commercial establishment. To burgalarize a residence in Georgia, {like many other states}, a suspect doesn't have to actually successfully steal any items of value. Next thing we know, you'll claim Mr. Aubrey was just an innocent jogger, instead of a repeat felon fleeing the scene of a residence he was just identified as having illegally entering, at a walking pace, & remaining in the residence for roughly 1 minute. Mr. Aubrey's extensive criminal history indicates "athletic running," or feigned "jogging" prior to comitting a long list of thefts, & burglaries from private residences, & retail outlets alike, both as a juvenile & well into his adulthood, was just his criminal "Motus Operendi" or common method of comitting a series of similar
CRIMINAL acts. Resisting arrest with violence, whether it's a legal citizen's arrest, or a sworn officer of the law taking a suspect into custody, according to the laws of that jurisdiction IS NEVER AN INTELLIGENT DECISION. Nor is it moral.
KOut
@@kellyowens1868 McMichaels are going to get a long PRISON sentence for the murder of an innocent man.
@@kellyowens1868 come on show us how stupid you really are. What time was the AA court cases? He wasn't convicted of anything, except a healthy lifestyle. McMichaels aren't allowed to detain anyone. That's called kidnapping. They have no authority.
So some good ol' boys chased and shot him for a previous shoplifting? Huh? I'm often agitated too but I don't expect an effing bullet in my back.
No, they chased him down because they thought he stole something from a home under construction. The shoplifting happened far prior
They were not cops
@@ancelcole4404 what did he steal?
@@kevinroberts3254 Nothing, they assumed he stole something
@@ancelcole4404 exactly, and neither of those situations warranted him being chased, cornered by strangers trying to kidnap him and ultimately killing him. I wonder if some people would have the same views if everything they did in life whether documented as a police interaction or not justified them being shot. Sad that some people love pointing fingers and justifying responses that aren't proportional until it happens to them
It seems the defense attorney certainly just likes to hear himself talk. Mr. Arbery is not on trial. Unfortunately, the judge isn’t allowed to simply tell the defense attorney to SHUT UP and get to the point!
What doors any of this private information have to do with the murder of Ahmad. ?? He was just running, exercising and was chased down by those brutal killers
Okaaaaay!
Arbery drove his car almost 7 miles to the Neighbrhood in his car .. parked his car then walked to the House in Untied Timbeline Hiking Boots..
When you can run 7 miles in untied hiking boots get back to me useful lying idiot..
@@mikeskidmore6754 you don't have a point u r trying to create a useless situation to justify your bias agenda don't assume, what we see is Bryan and son stock and kill
@@mikeskidmore6754 WTF does his shoes being untied have to do with him NOT having stole ANYTHING???
@@mikeskidmore6754 Well heck now we got to go to the army and tell him to stop using those boots because apparently rain boots is hard work do you need to get some exercise shoes
When you dont have a defense, u blame the victim. Standard and infuriating 😡
Oh he felt threatened by an unarmed man. Typical cop excuse for escalation. Especially if you’re a minority.
Dang shame 🤦🏾♀️
Investigating?... He has no right to search his car.
Well said!
So so many p🐈y officers these days.
Next we have Ahmads kindergarten teacher.
“Do you remember October, 1997, Ahmad taking three pieces of candy instead of two?? “ would you say he’s a career criminal?””
Felony theft is far more serious then taking 1 more piece of candy compared to 2. You are a fool.
Actually, there where it starts. I have some students right now, I swear, will be...spending time sooner rather than later. Let's pray not!
Let's pray they don't run thru Scintilla Shores.
@pamelalawrence472 I would hate to find out that you're my kids teacher. I would beg the school board to oust you for your BIGOTRY. You're a teacher, right? Well, how about not corrupting those innocent kids with your BIGOTRY.
Him stealing which hasn't been proven, should be irrelevant, he was murdered
Yeah and then to bring in what he was wearing the day of the incident as if that was at all relevant.
he was not stealing
@@danajackson5050 he was arrested for shoplifting and was convicted for felony shoplifting.
@@DOLfirst so what does that have to do with him being hunted down and murdered??? They weren’t police officers and he wasn’t stealing when this incident was happening.
@@mrslassiter2649 The strategy is as always is to "thugify" the victim. It's just a distraction like we saw in the Derek Chauvin case. Blame any and everyone except the murderer(s).
I am so confused. What does a shoplifting act have to do with being harassed and killed years later. Why is it even allowed to be presented in court on a totally unrelated case. Furious!! SMH
This is the preliminary hearing...not day 1 of the trial. They're attempting to decide what can or cannot be admitted in
Trying to answer the aggression vs fight or flight self preservation. Motive! This can't be justified! The assault with vehicles.
@@suesanborts-bredall9914 oh ok
@@edwardruda7049 facts
I do not think a court should accept any diagnosis, especially a mental health diagnosis as serious and complex as schizoid affective disorder, made by a nurse. Mental health disorders should be diagnosed by a psychiatrist with extensive expertise. Unreal imo.
@Portia Mccoy exactly!!
Exactly 💯
But she took online mental health courses to get out of working night shifts so shouldn't that make her a mental health expert ?
@@mannybruce8950 RNs aren't licensed to diagnose. Must be a MD. The attorney is full of BS and should be disbarred.
@@joeblow5087 bkj
When the hate don't work...THEY START TELLING LIES...
Yup
@@abubakra6587 ...👌
Preach it preach !!!!!!
Who telling lies? The video says it all!
@@barbiedoll5766 ,The 3 "good ole boys",LYING is in their DNA/BLOOD.
In what sort of legal system is character assassination of the victim on a different incident admissible evidence? In the UK system this would be completely improper. The jury should judge on the merits of the case.
I like the prosecutor... a firecracker... she is not letting that defence get away with this nonsense
I like her too. I don’t know what to make of the judge though. I can barely hear him and he looks bored
@@Last337 I think he is feeling out of his depth with the defence.
Law enforcement ain't nonsense. You get rid of the rotten apples in the barrel not the good ones.
@@nobuddy6574 wtf are you talking about?
I believe it was just one incident at Walmart.
Every man have the right to face his accuser he he doesn't take the stand you can't bring up a man's past the judge is a joke for allowing this BS
I believe the judge is turning over every stone, to show the, old boy way, the standard will be; and, evolve to have " law" shelter all citizens.
What about Ahmaud Arbrey's right to face his accuser who's trying to blame him for the crime.
He was a career thief.
@@castishe40 now the three who shot him are career criminals. Travis is a baby daddy living off his mom - spending his days thugging around with guns but no job. Gonna spend more than half his life behind bars getting tatted up while the kid he couldn't support grows up with no memory of him. Careful with those stereotypes.
So a nurse can diagnose “Skee-zoh-affective disorder?” As a psychiatrist, this is news to me.
But she can’t remember how, cos she changed jobs last year!!!
Is this for real?? Surly it must be a spoof???
I'm a Registered Psychiatric nurse & it's news to me as well!!
I have worked in the field for over 20yrs. I have never seen an RN that can diagnose schizo effect disorder.
That RN witness must have gotten paid on the side or under the table by these crooked attorneys to come and say lies about Mr Arbery. And then, she's worried about her RN License? Her boss or whoever she's hired by must fire her on the spot!!!!!
Advanced Practice Registered Nurses can diagnose mental illness, as can Nurse Practitioners. You are not a Psychiatrist or you would know this. Nor would you use the general term " Nurse"
This witness doesn't have the expertise to diagnosis a cat
Does anyone? Cats are...... cats.
Hilarious🐱
Absolutely not my cat!!!
Right I am just now listening to this. She took a test on line. Then didn't recall anything about what she read online. She really helped the Defense. She must be friends with Travis. She really helped him.
This is very common in justice system, I hope the world recognizes how despicable the system operates.
The more that's recorded, even in court, puts light to dark practices.
I also love how he called it a 'routine stop' when there was no vehicle to be stopped smh he's an idiot. And regardless of how a person speaks to you, as an officer, you're supposed to conduct yourself a certain way and try to deescalate situations, not add fuel to the fire by 'matching their cadence/energy'.
Just like my boy Floyd they trying to rip apart his character yet not the character of their murderers. Hmmm
your boy? 😂
The officer said that it was a stop, but it wasn't a stop at all.
HE DIDN'T PULL HIM OVER, SO HOW WAS THIS A ROUTINE STOP. AHMAUD WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE COP F×CKING WITH HIM
why did they skip the video after 51:59? I wanted to hear the prosecutor cross examine the lying cop
I was waiting for her too to tear his statements up. What happened?
@@tieboogie9638 maybe because it's not the actual trial yet. I just thought about that. Hopefully we'll see that when the trial starts
Basically racially profile mr Aubrey
Were you trained in how to speak with hostile suspects....uh so we mirror the language verbal and none verbal....Wtf. That's escalating the situation 101.
Not defending him, but he was only 6 months on the job at the time and without any formal communication training, which claimed he did not receive, he may not have known otherwise. I also want to point out that this may not actually be able to be admitted into evidence at trial because this body worn camera footage and interaction with the officer is uncharged conduct and can't be admissible as any evidence of a conviction. It also is propensity evidence, which is typically inadmissible to show that a person's conduct on specific instances indicates that an individual would've acted the same way in this particular instance. The judge seemed unmoved by many of the defense's arguments, but I guess time will tell. I think his decision of some of these motions will be helpful in getting an idea of how he might rule on similar evidence admissibility for trial.
@@Law0fC00king yeah but this is common sense, And its a problem when the police are displaying 7th grade behavior and passing it off as policy.
I AGREE!!
No he later corrected himself and stated he was on the job for a year and a half. It does not matter what you do for a live anybody with common sense knows to not mirror someone who is agitated.
@@shaysaysgo9122 it would appeare that we still agree
They Literally Hunted This Poor Man Down’ like one would a wild animals, Should be premeditated murder! weeks trial for a murder caught on video. Only in the USA
They were just trying to perform a citizen's arrest... It was Arbery who decided to make the confrontation violent.
is that why he attacked them???????????????????
What's interesting to me in the second officer's testimony is that Travis McMichael regurgitated many of his statements. "Closing the distance, maybe he could be..., I wanted to find out..."
"I'm not searching you, I'm checking you for weapons" that's searching... lol
Frankly, it's ridiculous to come up with a mental health diagnosis in a couple hours of chit chat with a nurse and a nurse practitioner, neither of whom have an education specific to mental health. In my own case a definitive diagnosis took 2yrs with people who specialized in mental health.
You are 100% correct. To give you a perspective, an RN isn’t allowed to make a mental health diagnosis for any insurance company in the United States. Meaning, if you’re only diagnosis is from an RN, no insurance company will pay for an ounce of treatment. The professions that are allowed to make a mental health diagnosis are: psychiatrists, psychologists, medical doctors, licensed counselors, clinical licensed social workers and in some states nurse practitioners (which require years more education than an RN). This witnesses knowledge of mental health is frankly embarrassing, from the perspective of someone who specializes in this field.
@@maryb6672 Appreciate your going into a more thorough explanation of just how inappropriate it is for an RN to offer a diagnosis at all, whether physical or mental let alone after only a few hours of observation..
... And your diagnosis can change as time goes forward. Personally, I would say any diagnosis more than 12 weeks old is questionable.
Just to give you another insight from a legal perspective in GA, the GA Board of Bar Examiners (the body that admits lawyers in GA to practice law) requires that bar takers requesting additional time for the bar exam due to mental illness or learning disability undergo thorough testing or have extensive recent and ongoing diagnosis and analysis by a person with a medical degree who is specially trained in diagnosing such disorders or disabilities. This is just to get extra time on the bar exam NOT to be used as someone's justification as to why they killed another human being.
@@maryb6672 that nurse was/is a COMPLETE FLOP!...😳😵😵
This should not be the Ahmaud hearing. He’s the victim!!!
A Twisted Lemon, will anything satisfy you? They honor the victim by naming the proceedings after him.
That doesn't have anything to do with this young man getting kill and this shouldn't be even allowed to be brought !!!!!!
@@davidgaugamela9801 👈🥱💤🥱💤🥱💤
They're trying to use his past acts to defame his character and therefor justify the suspicion and killing. Especially the mental issue that was never really properly diagnosed. A nurse and a Nurse Practitioner are not qualified to make a mental illness diagnosis, especially one as complicated as schizoaffective disorder. That's a very complicated, and new, diagnosis involving competing disorder symptoms.
are you afraid of any facts?
So many Americans say they are proud of living in a free country. Not so free if you can't park your car where you like to get some sun and listen to music.
I hope not!
Police are supposed to investigate crimes. One way of actually doing that is physically being there and actually probing circumstances and people.
I know what happened, they forgot we all saw the video. Smmfh.
Exactly. The video makes it clear that Arbery initiated physical violence... In what world can you rip a shotgun out of another man's hands and expect to live?
@@MrHazyDayz in what world post slavery is it ok arm yourself, get in a truck and confront a man for simply jogging down the street?
@@jaybird4571 In Georgia, where they had a citizen's arrest law at the time that empowered ordinary citizens to pursue suspected criminals and all Americans have the right to arm themselves, it's literally the 2nd rule in our rule list we call The Constitution.
@@MrHazyDayz citizens have never been allowed to pursue any they suspect doing anything. It has to be a felony in progress. You tell me what they saw him do then.... I'll wait! I'm tired of you fukn idiots trying to justify blatant hate and murder.
@@jaybird4571 Yes, citizens have been able to pursue suspected criminals forever in Georgia... Here's the text of the law: "A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion."
The McMichaels absolutely had reasonable and probable grounds to suspect Arbery of burglary and they had first-hand knowledge that he'd been trespassing.
Swollen legs, high blood pressure, fiancé, job, health ?
Roddy Bryan has something better than both, life. He should have thought about all of these issues when he was using a 5000 lb vehicle to set up Travis for the kill.
I’m skipping over the ridiculous Defence claims and fast forward to the Prosecution who are doing a sterling job!!👏🏽👏🏽
Im with you
Some people do get verbal aggressive with cops because they have a bad history of being aggressive and verbally abusive
There's no laws against Speech. Were the big bad cops feelings hurt? Grow some balls.
@Isis Smith i was talking about the cops and their history
I am so glad this video is saved and shared with the public. It shows how ridiculous the defense arguments were after we now see all the evidence.
I have to praise the prosecution again, she explained the sequence of events so clearly. The defense lawyers are just try to create confusion. They can't prove Arbery ever committed any crime, other than trespassing. I especially like the part she ripped apart the mental health record defense tried to bring in.
So is Ahmaud Arbery on trial here? 🤨🧐. Did these three defendants KNOW Arbery prior to the murder? So...what does this have to do with the case at hand?
Not a dame thing right my peeps smh
@@Rishel26 you definitely sound like a legal scholar
@@E_Legal_Alien smh y’all sad
@@dinobossingup2570 too lazy to spell out shaking my head? And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
Linda Dunikoski has handled the 3 stooges very well... She's the star in this case
Totally believable. The officer remembers the tiniest details but no idea how the case was resolved
These defense attorneys.....he was diagnosed as schizoaffective by this random nurse who took a one time short online course with multiple choice answers for general mental illness who spoke to him for 2 hours. Oh, and a nurse practitioner, also with no expertise or diagnostic qualification agreed with the "diagnosis" by simply reading the evaluation that the rando nurse made over a 2 hour talk. This is criminally ridiculous.
There is nothing relevant about the defense's argument, there is no excuse for murdering an innocent man under any circumstances.
Generally when a man attempts to yank a shotgun out of another man's hands he no longer fits in any honest categorization of "innocent".
@@MrHazyDayz You sound stupid…you’d try to disarm a stranger trying to corner you also. Stupid *ss comment
@@justice4896 which corner was Arbery in, exactly? You mean the open road ahead of him or the open, unfenced fields to the sides of him?
@@MrHazyDayz when a man HUNTS another man with a firearm that is premeditated murder ....
Sadly, in America, this passes as justice for people like Ahmaud Aubery. Always has.
His past should not/ be admitted in Court! That evidence should not be allowed or admissible in court!..this bullcrapp! He was executed in broad daylight..
Character assassination....plain and simple.
Is murder any different in the day or the night? I believe they are showing this as a witness to his character.. assessing how he may have reacted when someone felt the need to call the police because he continued to enter private property. I don't think they are trying to attack his character, just showing how he tends to behave when irritated... as it shows how he may have acted when they attempted to get him to remain at the location until police arrived.
@@Mandy-nt2cs none of that matters. They had no authority to detain him or kill him even if they watched him trespass or steal, which they didn't. Open and shut case.
That's why they are in prison for the rest of their life you don't have any right to chase somebody and kill them for nothing hope they have that same energy in jail
What it has to do with Walmart and 2017? The judge should not allow it to bring up, or the judge is part of the cover-up?
What does him at Walmart have to do with his murder? He didn't steal anything.
He DID steal something, idiot. Him and his criminal friends stole a TV and were convinced of it. Are you not paying attention? Unbelievable.
Nothing they went back into his juvenile record just to make him the Villian to get those 3 murders off the the typical playbook
@@SirGreenDay which can't be use in court idiot
You didn't listen to this at all if you have no idea why.
Holds hand out to the side is dangerous. This says I'm unarmed.
That's exactly what I thought. And the cop kept saying it was a routine "stop". But how is it a stop if Mr. Arbery was parked inside his vehicle off-road and minding his business.
@@JustCallMeJaph they didn't acknowledge the part where he was on his knees hands behind his back and that stupid officer still try to tase him. Who's schizophrenic as they are trying to portray him.
Exactly and why did he bring up TV. Is he talking about Power, Queen of the South, rap videos. What is he watching??
I’ll be back for the trial cause this here is ridiculous….. so glad the prosecutor is sharp and on point AND simplifying the case for the judge by sticking to the facts. As for the judge 😕
I have followed this case from the very start I am just heartbroken over it 🤦🏼♀️
It’s very common for people to walk into a house in building stage. Most people have done this, just looking at floor plan etc., he took nothing, damaged nothing. The defence so far are ridiculous.
I THINK HE WAS JUST TRYING TO TRACK THE PROGRESS OF THE HOUSE. JUDGING BY THE DATES, IT WAS ABOUT ONCE A MONTH THAT HE WENT AND LOOKED AROUND
She Is Not A Psychiatric Nurse,that's why she cannot Explain it.
If "that escalated quickly' was a person: Second unit pulling his gun smh
This is so funny How they gonna try to turn the victim into a villain even though he was the one that got murdered doing nothing but trying to exercise how it be self defense when the victim didn't have a gun
Aumend Arbery charged a Man who was holding a shotgun and tried to steal it from him.. This Plan shows Arberys low IQ and Vilent Temper got extinguished ..
@@mikeskidmore6754 "He attacked......"
Recommend you watch the probable cause hearing held in June 2020. You would know that Ahmaud had been shot in the chest before he grabbed the gun. Travis stated that he fired when Ahmaud squared up on him. Travis did not know if Ahmaud had touched his shirt when he fired.
Adult children walk into places where they don't belong, he (Arbery) is a victim of mental health issues. Seven years for Travis! Ya'all not qualified to address behavior with 2 pickup trucks and a shot gun. Fools - more victims for the system.
@@mikeskidmore6754 The system has your quarters too!
@@edwardruda7049 The Police do Mag Dumps on Joggers like Arbery every day .. and they walk .. Arbery was Charging Travis and he was trying to take the shotgun from Travis.. Thus he would have been amred.. an Armed Felon who took a hand gun to a high school basketball game when he was 19 years old was caught and Convicted..
Who was the primary aggressor? The two guys who showed up in the pickup truck, with a shotgun and and shot a jogger
The father, son and the man that followed behind recording it hit the young man as he fought for his life to get away from them
This should have nothing to do with this trial. Will all past bad deeds of his murderers be brought up too?
36:26 Invoking your constitutional rights makes you automatically suspicious according to this officer.
Coincidently felons don't like talking either.
@@1911GreaterThanALL That's not true. The three felons who murdered Ahmaud were all too happy to chat to the police who arrived on the scene.
@@KevinBradach The context under being a felon is one that is knowingly having criminal intent generally. I don't think Ahmaud's killers had premeditated intent to kill him outright. I believe they had intent to capture otherwise why would they waste their time attempting to take him alive? More to the point why would they issue orders?
All to often, in a case like this, the victim is put on trial. It is unfortunate.
Unfortunate??? I’d say it’s scandalous!! Has nothing to do with justice!!!
@@julielevinge266 they have to determine if the McMichaels had reasonable and probable reason to suspect Arbery of burglary in order to determine if the shooting was legally justified based on Georgia’s citizen’s arrest law.
@@MrHazyDayz im so tired of you go to sleep
@@kim8928 please just teach your children to stay on their own property and keep their hands to themselves and we can prevent these tragedies in the future.
@@MrHazyDayz Yes, if those three men had just stayed on their own property and kept their hands to themselves, they wouldn't be in prison right now. I completely agree with your point.
He actually had no reason to approach the car. There was nothing going on about the car (simply parked) that should have drawn him to the car. Just because that area is known for drugs, gangs, etc, does not mean that every car/person parked in that area is engaged in any crime. He even said that he did not suspect any crime so why continue engaging an innocent person? He didn't even do anything about the suspended license because he knew he had no grounds for approaching this car in the first place. Then his partner arrives and weapons are used against an innocent person. This was nothing more than profiling based upon assumption of criminal activity.
His gun did not work lol
@@jammerssteel1678 It was a taser which the cop was trying to use illegally. The first cop was still talking to Ahmaud Arbery when the second cop on his own idea decided to tase him. Luckily, the taser didn’t work.
Mr. Arbery was allowed to walk away, not drive because his license was suspended.
No shots were fired by the REAL police.
If you think someone may have
Brian's attorney loves the sound of his own annoying voice.
Gets too much even for him 2:08:57
😂🤣👶😂
Right, he does. He’s even over talking the judge
That deep southern slave master voice is super annoying
I can tell the judge is uneasy with making a decision immediately. The defense attorney seems to want to talk in circles hoping approaching from every angle will get the judge to allow the medical records.
I think this analysis should be dropped and not allowed in the defense.
Ahmad wasn't obligated to stop for strangers on the street pursuing him with guns.
What the F as this got to do the WS killing him .PLEASE can someone explain
It is very normal in the USA to kill by police 👮♀️
Can somebody check on Travis Mental Health for me now that he is in Prison. He told his Facebook friend he didn't mind going to jail. Sometimes wishes do come true. They seem to really wanted talk about Ahmaud Mental Illness. Ahmaud was 25 he was 34 . He should have been more experienced with life than Ahmaud.
Thanks! 💯💯
Hippa can not be waved without the patient's consent and Ahmaud is not here
It’s a murder trial🙄🙄 Also......HIPAA* waived*
@@dont_step_on_the_momeraths thank you for the correction. His mother is his representative and she wouldn't allow his medical condition to be known. The law is tricky...contradictory
Ok I know I'm being presumptuous but they had no business attacking Mr Aubrey . Now let us resume "
What does a shoplifting charge have anything to do with him running down the street on a bright sunny sunday minding his own business whatever trying to make somebody look bad, what gives Travis the right to tell someone what to do he's not law enforcement he's just a jail bird now.
The atty is trying to attack Aubreys character
38:29 mark. Cop says he stop being professional and starts cussing because he wanted to be at the level of the guy he's harassing!!! Shame on him.
Only in America where a dead man can be put on trial. SMDH 🤬🤬🤬
Don't give witnesses a swivel chair
🤣🤣🤣 u like me I'm now distracted.
@19:45 there's no reason to make contact with the vehicle. Police must have probable cause to start an investigation. The pitiful thing is this officer thinks he did a right th. He is wrong, no different than the men that assumed he stole something from that housing site.
The point being made here (body cam video of Arbery in the car park) is absurd. Anyone would react differently to being approached by a police office than to being chased by 3 guys in pickup trucks with guns.
They needed two guns just to go talk to somebody?
So you would approach someone (by your own estimation) to be committing burglary unarmed? Are you stupid?
The judge should not allowed what happened in 2017 got to do with the day of shooting him
WTH is this trial really about?! This is ridiculous!
This judge is a pump and is afraid to make a ruling. This has gone on too long make the ruling man it's a no-go simple as that!
So ahmaud is on trial basically 🤔
YOU DO NOT ASK FOR THE ID IF HE WAS NOT IN THE PROCESS OF OR COMMITTING A CRIME
Wow!!! This is damning towards the defence team considering how the trial turned out.
2018 has nothing to do with those snuff hunter killing Armand Aubrey
I don't understand how a judge allows that to be brought up about his theft, but the judge in George Floyd trail the didn't let the prosecute bring out Derek Chauvin bad behavior and bad conduct what he did to the 14 teenager and the 22 complains against him.
This isn't the trial. This is the hearing to decide if this can be included as evidence in the trial. Have to mention it here to rule on whether it gets included or not
How is a victims mental health records relevant to why ppl chased him and killed him?!
This cop chose to escalate when it didn't need to
At about 27-28 minutes after the objection.... I speculate that the judge was about to call Mr Arbery the defendant. Who’s on trial here & why are we in 2017?