Intersting putting all the complexity into your language, but however I think you forgot the rule in naturalistic languages which says that humans tend to follow the path of least resistance when speaking and complexity is often removed when redundant or the same function can be filled by a simpler construct. Like for example in english the word "have" has three functions 1 for possession 2 for showing neccesity and 3 for showing the present perfect. These three functions could be filled with different words but they use the same word to remove complexity at the cost of increasing ambiguity. Otherwise good job.
not really look at georgian, or latin it also really depends on what one finds complex, the way that english used 1 thing for 3 seperate functions can be quite complex
@@Hwelhosold I understand that there are languages with complex case systems, but the addition of one complexity often means the ommision of another, for example neither georgian nor latin has articles, I also think you have to factor in speech length into your calculus, if it takes twice as long to say the same sentance with a complex language then with a simpler one then people tend to lean towards speaking in the most efficient manner possible, ie. Using intonation to convey what could otherwise be conveyed with a word. For example in my native language, sudanese arabic, a question and a statement are often worded exactly the same however the only way to distinguish if someone is asking a question or making a statement is through their intonation.
@@mujtabaal-bushari6733 yes, languages have on average around the same amount of syllables, however if loads of information can be packed into 1 syllable, as is possible with fusional languages, it is possible to have so much info as long as sentences like "i see u" dont have 10 syllables or smth its fine also languages rnt most efficient, theres redundancy in every language (eg "he sees" has an unnecessary 3rd person marking) and ambiguity (eg "she sees her sister" whos sister is it?) and figurative language is a major part of speech, which is often far longer than actually needed (eg "dont count ur chickens before they hatch" could be said as "dont rely on smth" and yes intonation does have a big impact in a lot of languages, however in a lot they also dont, like in my native language (dutch) we basically only use it to say that were sarcastic, for the rest its all in the words (with exceptions ofc)
@@Hwelhosold Good analysis, I concede that you can convey a lot of meaning in few syllables, however my contention lies in the fact that no naturalistic languages have noun and verb agreement in all cases, and all languages reuse single words for multiple uses. Just think of the word "are" it can agree with 2nd person singular OR 1st person plural OR 2nd person plural OR 3rd person plural. Why do we reuse the same word when we can have a different word for each use?
Also intonation is used a lot more often then you think. The statement "What do you want?" can mean a lot of different things depending on what intonation you use. It can be a question, a sarcastic remark, a statement of being tired, or even a threat to intimidate someone. This however cannot be conveyed in writing without the use of descriptors.
amazing work like always, i love how the adjectives work
Intersting putting all the complexity into your language, but however I think you forgot the rule in naturalistic languages which says that humans tend to follow the path of least resistance when speaking and complexity is often removed when redundant or the same function can be filled by a simpler construct. Like for example in english the word "have" has three functions 1 for possession 2 for showing neccesity and 3 for showing the present perfect. These three functions could be filled with different words but they use the same word to remove complexity at the cost of increasing ambiguity. Otherwise good job.
not really look at georgian, or latin
it also really depends on what one finds complex, the way that english used 1 thing for 3 seperate functions can be quite complex
@@Hwelhosold I understand that there are languages with complex case systems, but the addition of one complexity often means the ommision of another, for example neither georgian nor latin has articles, I also think you have to factor in speech length into your calculus, if it takes twice as long to say the same sentance with a complex language then with a simpler one then people tend to lean towards speaking in the most efficient manner possible, ie. Using intonation to convey what could otherwise be conveyed with a word. For example in my native language, sudanese arabic, a question and a statement are often worded exactly the same however the only way to distinguish if someone is asking a question or making a statement is through their intonation.
@@mujtabaal-bushari6733 yes, languages have on average around the same amount of syllables, however if loads of information can be packed into 1 syllable, as is possible with fusional languages, it is possible to have so much info as long as sentences like "i see u" dont have 10 syllables or smth its fine
also languages rnt most efficient, theres redundancy in every language (eg "he sees" has an unnecessary 3rd person marking) and ambiguity (eg "she sees her sister" whos sister is it?) and figurative language is a major part of speech, which is often far longer than actually needed (eg "dont count ur chickens before they hatch" could be said as "dont rely on smth"
and yes intonation does have a big impact in a lot of languages, however in a lot they also dont, like in my native language (dutch) we basically only use it to say that were sarcastic, for the rest its all in the words (with exceptions ofc)
@@Hwelhosold Good analysis, I concede that you can convey a lot of meaning in few syllables, however my contention lies in the fact that no naturalistic languages have noun and verb agreement in all cases, and all languages reuse single words for multiple uses. Just think of the word "are" it can agree with 2nd person singular OR 1st person plural OR 2nd person plural OR 3rd person plural. Why do we reuse the same word when we can have a different word for each use?
Also intonation is used a lot more often then you think. The statement "What do you want?" can mean a lot of different things depending on what intonation you use. It can be a question, a sarcastic remark, a statement of being tired, or even a threat to intimidate someone. This however cannot be conveyed in writing without the use of descriptors.