another solid review you put so much detail into reviews that no one else really does. everyone else is either a brand shill or reading from the promotional material. thanks for all u do m8
I'm 6ft 185 and I since this board is a little stiffer than my current board I was thinking about down sizing to a 156w. I feel like a smaller board will be a little more playful while the stiffness with allow me to carve most mountains in California. I don't ride any park. Thanks in advance! Love your vids ;)
Hey Arvin, your reviews are great man. I have been reading a lot that both the MT and the UMT have been getting softer the last few years. People seemed to really like the older MT. Is the UMT more like the MT from a few years back? I'm looking for something to conquer the whole mountain with, icy steeps, groomers, carving, going fast, going slow and buttering, switch, sidehits, etc. Everything except for park. Would the MT or UMT be better? Or maybe some other board? (I'm pretty big, 6'4, about 210lbs, size 12.5 boots).
Solid reviews. I'm 6'4 230 with a 13 US boot size. I either ride fresh packed powder grooms that you can smash or powder. I don't get into the park much but on groomer days I enjoy hitting natural features and little switch riding. Looking at this the regular twin, Nitro Team, and Yes Standard. What's your recommendation? Open to looking at other boards as well. Thanks
@@AngrySnowboarder Good point. Something more like a Flagship? It has a pretty wide waist offering. Definetely open to some suggestions on reviews you've done that I may want to check out.
Awesome video! I have been watching a lot of your reviews this week and they are really helpful with all of the options out there. Can you give a recommendation on sizing? I am 5'11" and 190lbs. Size 9 boot. You rode a 157 for the review but the site puts me more at a 160. Also, I am between this or the Capita Mercury and I am really torn on the decision. If you had to choose one which would it be?
Hi Avrin! I came across your channel when I was looking for a new setup. I have been riding an 05 Option Signature since, well 05 and I love the board, but it's time to get a new setup. I ride mostly in Vermont and New York, which tend to be icier with more hard pack than powder. When the snow is good (meaning soft) I love to hit moguls and the trees and uneven terrain. Otherwise I like carving up advanced and expert runs and popping off rollers to catch some air as the trail drops away. I haven't really hit the terrain park much as I've gotten older, so I'm not looking for a freestyle oriented board. The Option Sig is pretty setback and directional, so I always felt it prevented me from riding switch and landing 180s and things like that. I zeroed in on the ultra and regular MT because I believe it adds those features. Can you make a recommendation on which might be more appropriate for me coming from the option signature or recommend another board I should consider. 5'8" 190lbs 9.5 boot. I was concerned the regular MT would sacrifice too much on carving and edge hold in the Icy East.
If you had a choice of buying only one for the season to do it all would you pick the Capita mercury or this nine ultra twin since you have experience with both? Thank you.
Love your stuff! I have been riding for 15 years here in the Swiss alps, mostly piste (often icy) and freedride. I currently ride the korua otto on piste and love it to bits, but i am looking sth more twinnish bc the long nose feels weird at times whilst riding switch. Any recommendations for a board similar to the otto (similar flex, wide, camber) but closer to a true twin?
One thing I don't like about this board: the traction tech is not providing any extra edge hold on ice. It's just there to make the camber easier to engage on non-icy groomer.
Hey man. I've been trying to decide on a hard charging all mountian freestyle board for the east coast. The mega merc sounds right up my alley but I need something that can really bite into ice and hold it together through chunder when I come over a roller at warp speed and some lame dad is snowplowing across the run trying to kill his kids. Should I just nab a mega merc next year or go with something like this with death grip or magnatraction? I'm 180 with a 10.5 boot if that matters.
Hey Angry, awesome vid. Quick question on this board right here I just bought it but I'm starting to doubt the size and the board altogether that I got (which was based on the Jones sizing recommendation) I'm 5'9 190 lb and boot size 12. I'm quite the intermediate rider mostly on groomers and off piste on powdays. I got 162W, and I'm starting to feel that this board will kill me.. Is it still okay? I got like 4 years on the mountains. Cheers man,
I am 180cm tall, around 70 kilos and have size 10.5 boots. My rieing style is sidehits and freestyle in general. I will get the 153 wide. Is that okay or do i get the 156 wide?
Hey Angry. I'm 6'2" 167 lbs advanced rider, size 11 (ride insano) boots. Looking to add a board to my quiver for all mountain days in and out of the park up to a few inches of snow. I'd grab a 159 reg if they made one and am afraid the wide will be too much of a boat that's bumpy transitioning turns. What's your thoughts on the wide for my size? I rode a lobster sender 158W that was great in the park and lame on chopped up terrain.
Hey Avran! Thanks for the review, I'm looking for a board to replace a jibsaw heavy duty since they stopped making the elite. Would this board be comparable stiffness or would the regular mountain twin be more comparable? I remember in one of your videos, you mentioned that the regular mountain twin was comparable. I'm mainly a freestyle jumper (Small to 35' jumps) and like riding camrock.
@@AngrySnowboarder I ride PNW, soft snow/ slush a lot of the time. Easy to wash out and catch an edge. At least for me, that's what i find. So I like camrock w/ magnetraction profiles as opposed to full camber but i'm also used to riding camrock so i'm abit set in my riding. I find if i wash out with camrock, I can use the torsional flex of the board/ ankles to revert quickly saving me from falling. My buddy rips on an Outsiders though, solid board.
super doa vs. ultra mtn twin? which one are you picking and why?? how similar or different do they feel? P.S. don't forget to jib the phat skier kid that's YardSale'd in the middle of the run.
They're not PHat they're FAT, big difference. I'm riding whatever is in front of me because I can ride anything at this point and I won't worry about it. Difference wise the Super DOA is true twin UMT is directional twin. Different camber profiles, sidecuts, core profiles, and flex.
I'm an intermediate rider, i want something all mountain freestyle oriented. For carving, jumps, butters, sometimes rails and boxes and not completely suck in pow. I heard that this years regular mountain twin was kinda more freestyle oriented than last years so i was thinking maybe getting the 2021 model. Was debating between the Mountain twin, Ultra Mountain twin and Yes. Typo. What do you recommend?
I just bought an assassin pro are these boards pretty similar? Looking for a stiff mountain destroyer that can still handle pow. My options were ultra twin, assassin pro, and arbor wasteland. Figured the ultra or assassin pro were gonna be better than the arbor for all around
how does this compare to the capita mega merc and ride berzerker? i love how snappy and springy the turning is on the mega merc, it may be my favorite board so far. the bererker wasn't bad either but I found the rocker in the front to be a little squirrelly for my tastes. will the 3d base make this board more squirrelly compared to the mega merc?
I’ve lost about 30 lbs in the last year and my current 160cm 2017/18 UMT is a bit much to handle now. Is the new UMT noticeably softer than it was a few years back? What all mountain board would you recommend that is a bit easier to load up and a bit more playful to press/butter? Thank you.
Hi Avrin! is it good for freeride, pow? cuz i want something like Bataleon magic carpet, to ride backcountry freestyle, you know, riding switch in pow, but in my country we have limited stuff.... i found this board in our local shop for 600 usd, and ordering bataleon from US or europe will cost around 700. Thanks in advance, greetings from the mountain heaven, Kyrgyzstan. 🇰🇬
I almost got the Mountain Twin, but I'm more freeride than freestyle, so I went with the Flagship. Love my Flagship, but when I ride switch, it makes me wonder if I should have went with the Mountain Twin.
@@jasonqian7116 I'm 190lbs and 6'3". It's fun to carve with and it definitely isn't too big. But if you are looking for a freestyle board or something that you can ride through the trees there are better sizes. Would only get this size if you are planning to rip some open spaces and your legs can flex it aggressively.
another solid review
you put so much detail into reviews that no one else really does. everyone else is either a brand shill or reading from the promotional material. thanks for all u do m8
good review imho - absolutely nailed it. Glad it's gone a bit softer- I had one a couple of years ago, it was a proper beast.
I'm 6ft 185 and I since this board is a little stiffer than my current board I was thinking about down sizing to a 156w. I feel like a smaller board will be a little more playful while the stiffness with allow me to carve most mountains in California. I don't ride any park. Thanks in advance! Love your vids ;)
Why not just get the mountain twin in your normal size?
Rode this at demo days. It’s as fun lil board. More damp that I thought.
Hey Arvin, your reviews are great man. I have been reading a lot that both the MT and the UMT have been getting softer the last few years. People seemed to really like the older MT. Is the UMT more like the MT from a few years back? I'm looking for something to conquer the whole mountain with, icy steeps, groomers, carving, going fast, going slow and buttering, switch, sidehits, etc. Everything except for park. Would the MT or UMT be better? Or maybe some other board? (I'm pretty big, 6'4, about 210lbs, size 12.5 boots).
No. UMT will work for you.
@@AngrySnowboarder awesome man, thank you!
Solid reviews. I'm 6'4 230 with a 13 US boot size. I either ride fresh packed powder grooms that you can smash or powder. I don't get into the park much but on groomer days I enjoy hitting natural features and little switch riding. Looking at this the regular twin, Nitro Team, and Yes Standard. What's your recommendation? Open to looking at other boards as well. Thanks
Do you really need any of these, seems something more freeride oriented would be better.
@@AngrySnowboarder Good point. Something more like a Flagship? It has a pretty wide waist offering. Definetely open to some suggestions on reviews you've done that I may want to check out.
Flagship is there, maybe the Rome Ravine/Select, Ride Berzerker, Nitro Suprateam.
Awesome video! I have been watching a lot of your reviews this week and they are really helpful with all of the options out there.
Can you give a recommendation on sizing? I am 5'11" and 190lbs. Size 9 boot. You rode a 157 for the review but the site puts me more at a 160.
Also, I am between this or the Capita Mercury and I am really torn on the decision. If you had to choose one which would it be?
Personal preference is a big play in sizing I wouldn't go above a 157 but that's me, unless you're riding heavy wet coastal snow.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks man! Stoked for the new setup
Awesome review as always!
It looks like an amazing board
Quick question. Do you reckon the Burton Cartel X would pair well with the UMT 22?
That's some solid overlap.
I run cartels on my umtwin! Solid set up right there
@@jamiewilkins658 cartel X or regular cartel?
Hi Avrin! I came across your channel when I was looking for a new setup. I have been riding an 05 Option Signature since, well 05 and I love the board, but it's time to get a new setup. I ride mostly in Vermont and New York, which tend to be icier with more hard pack than powder. When the snow is good (meaning soft) I love to hit moguls and the trees and uneven terrain. Otherwise I like carving up advanced and expert runs and popping off rollers to catch some air as the trail drops away. I haven't really hit the terrain park much as I've gotten older, so I'm not looking for a freestyle oriented board. The Option Sig is pretty setback and directional, so I always felt it prevented me from riding switch and landing 180s and things like that. I zeroed in on the ultra and regular MT because I believe it adds those features. Can you make a recommendation on which might be more appropriate for me coming from the option signature or recommend another board I should consider. 5'8" 190lbs 9.5 boot. I was concerned the regular MT would sacrifice too much on carving and edge hold in the Icy East.
Get the Ultra.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks!
Sweet, how does it stack up to the aviator 2.0? Which can charge harder?
Aviator 2.0
If you had a choice of buying only one for the season to do it all would you pick the Capita mercury or this nine ultra twin since you have experience with both? Thank you.
Mercury probably, it's more consistent and doesn't have as high of a price tag.
Love your stuff!
I have been riding for 15 years here in the Swiss alps, mostly piste (often icy) and freedride.
I currently ride the korua otto on piste and love it to bits, but i am looking sth more twinnish bc the long nose feels weird at times whilst riding switch. Any recommendations for a board similar to the otto (similar flex, wide, camber) but closer to a true twin?
I'd check out the Ride Benchwarmer, Capita Outsiders, Rome Mod Stale. Won't be as stiff but close.
One thing I don't like about this board: the traction tech is not providing any extra edge hold on ice. It's just there to make the camber easier to engage on non-icy groomer.
Learn to snowboard?
Hey man. I've been trying to decide on a hard charging all mountian freestyle board for the east coast. The mega merc sounds right up my alley but I need something that can really bite into ice and hold it together through chunder when I come over a roller at warp speed and some lame dad is snowplowing across the run trying to kill his kids. Should I just nab a mega merc next year or go with something like this with death grip or magnatraction? I'm 180 with a 10.5 boot if that matters.
I'd go with this.
Lmao warp speed over a roller with the lame dad. I know this exactly.
Hey Angry, awesome vid. Quick question on this board right here I just bought it but I'm starting to doubt the size and the board altogether that I got (which was based on the Jones sizing recommendation) I'm 5'9 190 lb and boot size 12. I'm quite the intermediate rider mostly on groomers and off piste on powdays. I got 162W, and I'm starting to feel that this board will kill me.. Is it still okay? I got like 4 years on the mountains. Cheers man,
Go ride.
@@AngrySnowboarder On it.
I am 180cm tall, around 70 kilos and have size 10.5 boots. My rieing style is sidehits and freestyle in general. I will get the 153 wide. Is that okay or do i get the 156 wide?
Hey Angry.
I'm 6'2" 167 lbs advanced rider, size 11 (ride insano) boots. Looking to add a board to my quiver for all mountain days in and out of the park up to a few inches of snow. I'd grab a 159 reg if they made one and am afraid the wide will be too much of a boat that's bumpy transitioning turns. What's your thoughts on the wide for my size? I rode a lobster sender 158W that was great in the park and lame on chopped up terrain.
Probably going to be too much board for you.
@@AngrySnowboarder legend.
Hey Avran! Thanks for the review, I'm looking for a board to replace a jibsaw heavy duty since they stopped making the elite. Would this board be comparable stiffness or would the regular mountain twin be more comparable? I remember in one of your videos, you mentioned that the regular mountain twin was comparable. I'm mainly a freestyle jumper (Small to 35' jumps) and like riding camrock.
Why not something more like a Capita Outsiders or a Rome Mod Stale?
@@AngrySnowboarder I ride PNW, soft snow/ slush a lot of the time. Easy to wash out and catch an edge. At least for me, that's what i find. So I like camrock w/ magnetraction profiles as opposed to full camber but i'm also used to riding camrock so i'm abit set in my riding. I find if i wash out with camrock, I can use the torsional flex of the board/ ankles to revert quickly saving me from falling. My buddy rips on an Outsiders though, solid board.
super doa vs. ultra mtn twin? which one are you picking and why?? how similar or different do they feel? P.S. don't forget to jib the phat skier kid that's YardSale'd in the middle of the run.
They're not PHat they're FAT, big difference. I'm riding whatever is in front of me because I can ride anything at this point and I won't worry about it.
Difference wise the Super DOA is true twin UMT is directional twin. Different camber profiles, sidecuts, core profiles, and flex.
the little skier kids are definitely not phat... force of typing habit lol. Thanks for the input!
I'm an intermediate rider, i want something all mountain freestyle oriented. For carving, jumps, butters, sometimes rails and boxes and not completely suck in pow. I heard that this years regular mountain twin was kinda more freestyle oriented than last years so i was thinking maybe getting the 2021 model. Was debating between the Mountain twin, Ultra Mountain twin and Yes. Typo. What do you recommend?
Just get a Mountain Twin.
@@AngrySnowboarder the 2022 model or 2021?
Whatever you want.
What is your daily driver if you had to ride only one board forever?
Whatever I want.
I just bought an assassin pro are these boards pretty similar? Looking for a stiff mountain destroyer that can still handle pow. My options were ultra twin, assassin pro, and arbor wasteland. Figured the ultra or assassin pro were gonna be better than the arbor for all around
This is stiffer, more responsive, and has a WAY better sidecut.
how does this compare to the capita mega merc and ride berzerker?
i love how snappy and springy the turning is on the mega merc, it may be my favorite board so far. the bererker wasn't bad either but I found the rocker in the front to be a little squirrelly for my tastes. will the 3d base make this board more squirrelly compared to the mega merc?
It's softer than both of them.
@@AngrySnowboarder thank u sir. Probably gonna stick with the Mercury!
Sweet!
Any size recommendations for someone 6’ 3”, 190 pounds with size 13 boots? This board just went on sale so might have to snatch a 162W or 159W.
59w for more play 62w for more charging.
Is there a noticeable difference from the previous UMT model?
Thanks!!!
To me yes, to you probably not.
I’ve lost about 30 lbs in the last year and my current 160cm 2017/18 UMT is a bit much to handle now. Is the new UMT noticeably softer than it was a few years back? What all mountain board would you recommend that is a bit easier to load up and a bit more playful to press/butter? Thank you.
Yes. Go check the Top 5 all mountain freestyle boards list.
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Hi Avrin! is it good for freeride, pow? cuz i want something like Bataleon magic carpet, to ride backcountry freestyle, you know, riding switch in pow, but in my country we have limited stuff.... i found this board in our local shop for 600 usd, and ordering bataleon from US or europe will cost around 700. Thanks in advance, greetings from the mountain heaven, Kyrgyzstan. 🇰🇬
Sure.
How is this compared to the Jones Tweaker?
Looking for an east coast twin park/groomer board…
No clue.
Any changes on the 2023 UMT?
Negatory.
I almost got the Mountain Twin, but I'm more freeride than freestyle, so I went with the Flagship. Love my Flagship, but when I ride switch, it makes me wonder if I should have went with the Mountain Twin.
You should have
Downsize on a MT and save your flag for bombing
@@Ketamaniac downsizing makes no sense as the shape already has a downsize effect + the simmilar size is designed for the similar weight/shoe size
I decided to go for the frontier. Kinda in-between. Directional and good in pow like the flagship, but a bit less stiff and more playful
@@MoritzPilz dowsizzing make lot of sense the flag ship have a long rocker nose for exemple a flagship 161 on firm snow feels like a 158 frontier
I like picturing myself on the 165W
I thought it was a fun size. I may be bigger than the average snowboarder of the internet though.
@@HorizonVertigo Hey im 6'3 and 200lbs, is 165w too big for me?
@@jasonqian7116 I'm 190lbs and 6'3". It's fun to carve with and it definitely isn't too big. But if you are looking for a freestyle board or something that you can ride through the trees there are better sizes. Would only get this size if you are planning to rip some open spaces and your legs can flex it aggressively.
@@HorizonVertigo thanks man helped a lot!
I know you're not a fan of rear entry bindings (insert butt jokes here), but if you had to ride RE bindings, which would you go with?
How does this compare to yes basic decade?
More stiff and more damp, different edge to edge power transmission, more snap as well.
@@AngrySnowboarder thank you for your response. How does basic decade compare to regular MT? Are they both quite similar?
No.
@@AngrySnowboarder what are the main differences?
@@kamilwalczuk1970 Go watch the reviews then decide for yourself.
Do you have similair boards like this? I had this one for a test run but it is bit on the expensive side
I personally don't.
base 9900 ?