Depeche Mode - Black Celebration Brian Griffin Photography
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2019
- An in-depth interview with legendary photographer Brian Griffin about the photography for his 5th and FINAL Depeche Mode album cover, "Black Celebration".
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Watch all the previous Depeche Mode / Brian Griffin album cover interviews HERE:
Depeche Mode - Speak & Spell artwork discussion with Brian Griffin: ua-cam.com/video/sFSsG9wvzyI/v-deo.html
Depeche Mode - A Broken Frame artwork discussion with Brian Griffin: ua-cam.com/video/nY4oW93i2TE/v-deo.html
Depeche Mode - Construction Time Again artwork discussion with Brian Griffin: ua-cam.com/video/aUawvCFfYT8/v-deo.html
Depeche Mode - Some Great Reward artwork discussion with Brian Griffin: ua-cam.com/video/ekfCKrraW-A/v-deo.html
You're most welcome mate
The covers have been with me for over 3 decades and never lose their magic. Thank you very much Vaughn and Mr. Griffin for giving us all of the insights to these iconic DM covers.
Love the juicy behind the scenes take on the 'other photographers'.
Mr Griffin is a such interesting men. Experienced.He is like box full of treasures. I like listening to his stories. Thank you guys for this interview.
You are welcome!! VG:-)
Great documentary on what happens when a small band becomes bigger than itself with all the highs and lows that come with that.
Each time I listen to Brian he reminds me that all was done without Photoshop... Incredibly skilled photographer with artistic vision!
For a brief second I forgot we were talking about album covers when Brian said "I can't think of one really strong Depeche Mode album actually... Violator was OK" ... whaaaaat?! Oh, you mean the cover of course, lol!
There's no content on UA-cam where we can peak behind the curtain like this on such ICONIC art! Thanks Vaughan for orchestrating it and thanks to Brian for the refreshing honesty! I enjoyed every second of that.
Rob my friend you are very welcome !! VG:-)
After 33 years of being a fan of DM , I feel even closer to them and its thanks to You Vaughn George !
You’re welcome my friend!! VG
I enjoyed the interview, Vaughn & your channel is excellent. I think Brian Griffin’s cover of Black Celebration perfectly reflects the music of the album.
Thank you so much my friend!! VG:-)
what a great photography series! No other UA-camr gives such behind the scenes info about the creation of these records and I appreciate your videos! Can't wait to see part 2 of the review!
Austin Hough thank you my friend !! I appreciate your kind words !!
You got to love Brian Griffin... a straight forward artist with vision. Great interview Vaughn!
Cheers Marshall!! VG:-)
Brian - your DM album covers are indeed iconic. As a DM fan in his teenage years in the 80s, I appreciated the depth of your images and the feeling they projected and still do. They speak so well to the dark romanticism DM was gravitating toward in their music at the time. As in any great art, they evoke more questions than answers; their mysterious quality forces us to imagine what they might mean. In the interview you mention you don’t know why you put tulips in the Black Celebration cover. I think it was a juxtaposition used to express dark romanticism: the dark foreboding building foreshadowed by flowers was used to capture this mood. Regarding what happened in terms of why DM stopped using you....I’ve seen interviews with Dave saying that Anton “saved them”. I think he was referring to the band’s transition from being 80s synth pop icons to surviving pop music’s transition from being largely synth-driven to guitar-heavy grunge in the early 90s. The band, as I understand it, were very concerned at that time that their days were numbered. My guess is that they thought they could no longer afford to take risks in their image as their sound was being supplanted by bands like Nirvana. Yet I’m not entirely sure how Anton’s work helped them “weather the storm”. Anton seemed to continue in the vein of your previous work, perhaps with less abstract imagery. I consider his work as a more commercialized continuation of your brilliant work, not a replacement for it. Without your covers, he would not have had enough understanding of the band’s music to pull off the covers he created. Regardless, I have much respect for your work for DM and your artwork in general. Brilliant work is often misunderstood by those who have no idea what great art is. Thank you so much for making sure they stay in the dark.
I must disagree with Brian's view that Anton is not an artist... he truly is, just look at the video for 'Walking in my shoes' as one example, or the iconic Violator cover..... need I say more?
I also think that Anton was REALLY good to!! Different style but still brilliant too!! VG:-)
There is nothing wrong in being a top and important photographer.
as a photographer maybe a bit of a one trick pony
‘’Artist”’ is a loaded term, really. Vast meanings, differing perspectives.
Amazing video, Vaughn - I'm glad this is not the last that we'll see of Brian.
I particularly liked the idea of the reflections - if the building is one, this suggests that it is looming behind you, a perfect ominous atmosphere. If parts of Brian's studio are being reflected in the image of the building, it as if the building was towering over everything in front of you, but somehow fitting within the studio, quite surreal.
Looking forward to part 2 of the album review!
Gabby_ V thank you !!
VG
The Mic with Brians haircut!
So many teenage afternoons staring at Brian’s work while listening to the albums. I had always wondered. What a blessing! Thanks to you both!
Vaughn, I really like how you‘re dealing with the history of DM. Also your interviews with Brian provide quite a profound background to his great artwork. Weil done!
Thank you Wilde Dany!! VG:-)
Brilliant interview! good to hear Brian's side of it after owning the remaster cd for quite some time.
Thank you Philip !! VG:-)
Being new here and slowly making my way through your amazing content.
I am very happy to see your talks with Brian. Ppl have to remember that he and Anton are different in their approach and visionary. So I will not compare as many ppl tend to do. They earn their space both of them. Thank you for doing these talks, remember , Brian is old-school and we don’t know how long these visionaries will stay with us! Thank you both! ❤️
Absolutely loved this! Such a fascinating insight and looking forward to more from Brian.
Tracy Johnson thank you so much !! VG😎🎹
My pleasure, Vaughn! See you soon!
" Martyn you were f*cking crap shut up" Brain Griffin never change, brilliant photographer and seems like a great guy as well
What an amazing interview! I am sad thinking what might have been had Brian been able to use his talents on the subsequent albums. Thanks Vaughn for all you do!
You are welcome Michael!! Thank you for all your support as always!! VG:-)
Very introspective of and for Brian.great interview.
I like your channel, bro! Very informative and you’re making even more interesting now going out on location!👍🏻
Thank you bud!! VG:-)
Absolutely brilliant Vaughn!! 👍👍😍😍
Thank you :-)
So amazing to hear these stories... thank you Brian for sharing them and thank you Vaughn for making them happen!
You are welcome my friend!! VG:-)
Vaughn when are you going to interview Alan Wilder or Garth Jones or Daniel Miller ??????
Great interview Vaughn , great to hear such an honest viewpoint and what happened from inside working with the bands work
great interview, thank you for the efforts. Brilliant album covers this guy had done.
Best album covers ever for Depeche Mode made by Brian Griffin
Of course the album covers are beautiful.They are sheer artistry.Imagine calling an artist ' too arty' ? Gorgeous body of work.Thank you.
Very nice video which I enjoyed a lot, wish there were more album covers made for DM by Mr Griffin to discuss but all good things must come to an end. Anton is from Holland and the tulip is their national flower... Was this a coincidental foresight of what was about to come. Great work you two!
Hello again to you Magnus!! Thank you for the Tulips story , I had no idea it was the Dutch national flower. VG:-)
Thanks, Vaughn. don't worry about the reviews. this time of the year is hectic. people is busy to finish their work in progress. and get ready for the holiday season.
Good to know bro, I was starting to think that people are just losing interest in my channel or that the content is just not good enough. VG:-)
Bummed we've come to the end with Brian Griffin, I love his interviews.
A really honest and candid interview, getting to the heart of things. Thank you Vaughn so much for taking the time to put this together. Thank you Brian also for the legendary work you have produced over the years. Looking forward to the Q & A's. Best wishes to you both. Cheers
Thank you Matt!! VG:-)
I appreciate this soo much! Brian's passion for his work really shines through. I value the honesty and vulnerability in this interview. Thank you Brian and Vaughn for an awesome interview. 😍
Thank you Ewa!! VG:-)
I think Anton's collaboration with DM has given the band a more cohesive visual identity, which they lacked up until that point, or didn't find it was needed. Anton not just desings a cover, he designs the stage and all the visual aspects of a record and tour, and some of the videoclips. And certainly most fans identify with the iconography of Anton's, if only because the band became more popular during the Violator and SOFAD era. While the band used some 'icons' related to the album covers (a hammer, a loudspeaker etc.), they didn't have the identity of Anton's work.
I'm looking forward for an episode on the 'Only when I lose myself' video clip!
Thank you Xavier !! A very good posting sir!! VG:-)
Anton and DM became far too comfortable with each other far too quickly. Love Anton's photography, his videos started off OK (love Pimpf still) but he is no Jane Spiers when it comes to stage designs.
The problem is that Anton became too comfortable and started repeating himself. And a lot of album cover art is not that good, especially SOTU, Spirit, Delta Machine.
Or even SOFAD, PTA and Exiter album covers are also very weak, compare to the previous ones. The new Memento Mori cover and the hole artwork is perfect.
Wonderful. Let me just simply say thank you to both Brian and Vaughn for this fantastic, behind-the-scenes series.
Great interview in an original setting,there's so much honesty about Brian,whether people like it or not,pleasure to listen to him,great respect..big thumbs up for the whole series!
Thank you so much Marcin!! VG:-)
Wow! Another great video 😃👍 Love it
Great review, thank you Vaughn and Brian!
I like Brian a lot. His passion, talent and doing the best ever Depeche Mode imagery. A very interesting how he created his masterpieces.
Thank you for this interviews Brian, and wish all the best!Ohh and in B&W the cover is is really really amazing!woooowww
Have always been intrigued with the black celebration album artwork. This was very exciting. Nice work
Thanx Vaughn, for this great and interesting interview with Mr Griffin. Keep up the fantastic work!!! You are our hero!!!
Such a lovely thing to say !! Thank you !! VG:-)
Great interview! Looking forward for the Q&A!
Great video with great content. I Hope we will have more videos of that quality. Thank you very much. So much pleasure.
That album cover is freakin beautiful. It looks like CGI but somehow more romantic. It totally works. The tulips make the whole idea work! I’m an ex-pro-designer, seriously great album cover.
Vaughn you are the best @ what you do. Your videos are so informative. I agree, Anton is ok, but I prefer Brian's artwork which is better.
Awesome video with Brian Vaghn!
Sorry Vaughn I watched the video just now, I totally oversaw it!
Great informative video, it made me a bit sad when Brian said he lost the band. I wonder how would their covers look like if Brian still worked for them.
Anyways, BC cover is probably my most favorite DM cover, I even have a mug with the BC photo on it!
Love you guys
Alena Ludewig and we love you too girl!! You are always such a huge support and kind soul!! Thank you xx
I always thought that tulips are on the cover because they represents the sensitivity of Martin Gore's soul in that dark/sometimes cold/industrial music environment... :D
Makes me also think of how the band wanted to change their video presentation which was also letting someone get creative on their own, only with worse a far outcome. That said I not only loved all Brian's work but I like the use of simple symbols that seemed to start here and the carry on into Anton's later designs. Almost wonder if they gave Brian the "Bong Speaker" idea what he would have done.
Again thank you Vaughn for this and always great to hear from Mr. Griffin!
Brian is the best, outstanding series of interviews. I hope in a new episode focused on "Only When I Lose Myself" (the best Depeche Mode's video and an unbelievable piece of art).
Great interview, seems to me that Brian jumped ship for his artistic integrity, which must be respected. Some may say that he came across a little bitter, I saw it as disappointment. Keep up the good work Vaughn.
Thank you for your comment and I am glad you are enjoying the channel!! VG:-)
Thanks again guys! 😃
Thanks to Brian and Vaughn once again. Very interesting interview. I actually own all the remastered cd’s with the documentaries, You can read between the lines on the black celebration documentary, that there was some tension during the making of the album cover. And I must agree with mr Griffin, that it’s far from the best album cover he did for DM... looking forward to the black celebration album review, part two. Keep up the good work dear Vaughn. My regards from my wife, who also enjoy your channel. Gonna share your videos on Facebook soon😎👍🏻🎹🍷
I hold Brian's work with DM as highly as I do with Saville and NO, and NO is my favorite act of all time so it's great to see Brian's thoughts on that revolution of album art into actual art. The sad thing about the money machine that was DM back in the days was that a lot of amazing stuff wasn't as treasured as it is today, Brian is a treasure and it's always a delight to see you talk to him and now hearing his side of the story it's honestly sad hearing the darker part of that album behind the scenes. I agree with Brian on Anton, I respect both their work, especially their unique flair for the bands output...but as of recent years Anton's work is just absolutely bland and abysmal to me.
Thank you Vaughn for doing these videos and giving (in my opinion) a far better retrospective for each album than most of the officially released documentaries. Thank you Brian for being so honest and candid for us, you guys are honestly what keeps me coming back to the topic of DM.
Awesome video
great video, very interesting
Great video...you are such a good interviewer!
I'm flattered !! Thank you :-)
Thanks for this interview. Brian such a proficient and talented person. I'm curious, are you planning to do another interview about his participation as DM's "Only When I Lose Myself" music Video Director ?
Great stuff
If you think of it, I'm almost certain that Anton kinda referred to that cover - which features tulips - when he put a rose on Violator. Also, I'm BLOWN TF away that it was Brian who directed the video for OWILM. It's one of my absolute favorite DM-videos. Great man!
Thanks for a great video. I felt a sense of sadness knowing that Brian had started the journey with DM and how it ended. Everything album he did was amazing and iconic, which cannot be said of Anton. (SOUNDS OF THE UNIVERSE). Great to know that this isn’t the last of Brian Griffin, and maybe he could come along to a group get together?
Really great video Vaughn! Brian is a great listen. Very talented. Love the CTA cover. I think after listening to several interviews, the band like Anton because he brings an overall artistic impression of the band which they like. I must say Only When I Lose Myself is an outstanding video by Brian though. Best wishes to you both
Thank you Steve !! Much appreciated !! VG:-)
Vaughn George = musician+ Journalist + Artist+ Philanthropist.
What a great interview and the historical knowledge is amazing. Brian is a legend.
Bands just go different ways. Hope he doesn’t take it personally.
It initially hurt, but quickly I accepted it.
Thank you and I am glad you are enjoying the videos!! VG:-)
My 2 cents.... the tulips represent how I have always felt about DM... let me TRY to explain... their music at its best (to me) answers questions like 1) Can there be humanity amognst the machines? and 2) What organic elements can there be/exist in the sterile, post-modern world of technology, etc. I am not sure if this is making sense but... listen to the songs and look at the album cover... that is a perfect example of what I mean. That cover is stark and cold (in a good way though) to represent the "modern" world or as Martin (I am sure he said this line) "Life in the so-called space age". The songs are even stark and "cold" at times. Not in a bad way but not in a folksy, 1970's (lets all love each other, hedonistic way either) way either. This album will sound modern and futuristic in a 100 years. Now... think about Martin's voice cutting through (and Dave's too of course) all that technology... so human... so vulnerable at times. This is the answer to my questions posed above. YES we can survive a cold, sterile, stark world of technology and "space age". Martin's lyrics never offer easy solutions but they somehow give meaning to meaninglessness.... "though it's not love it means something..." He is writing to attempt to explain the "world we live in and life in general" I know that is another album but anyway... he is the perfect post-modern lyricist... never offering trite, easy solutions to big questions... almost to the point of nihlism but never taking that full stance (i.e. cop-out) either (*cough* *cough* NIN). Again there is always somehow hope amidst hopelessness or at least compassion and wonder. So very long story short... we will survive. You could almost say EMO music began with this album but that is diminishing the brilliance of DM.
Some fun facts (to end this treatise .. I apologize... for indeed if brevity is the soul of whit then verbosity is the soul of sh**) I just added that part! HA! Axl Rose loved DM... Scott Weiland of STP said this is the best album of the 1980's and I believe George Michael wanted to do a cover of A Question of Lust. Shame that never happened...
Wonderful interview !!! Thank you Brian and Vaughn ... Really enjoyed this ... I thought the tulips were used to add something authentic ... I never knew it was a model, until after watching the series that you showed Brian in this video ... So perhaps it was some added trickery to fool the viewer and give the whole composition a more realistic look ... Whatever the case was Brian, you had me believe it was a real building ... Brilliant !!!
Also who made the model ??? Brian mentioned it was someone who he had worked with before on many projects, but never mentioned his name ... Anyway, props to them as well ...
Fascinating behind the scenes discussion Vaughn. I'm curious, at any point was Brian asked to find an actual building to photograph. And, obviously for many technical/financial reasons was the idea to just utilize Brian's model of the building a way to avoid fees/license agreements/permits/logistics with either the architect or building owner if an actual building was found that was desirable? It feels like the end result of the image for a Black Celebration may have been due to time constraints. I can only imagine that Brian would not have been blessed with a massive amount of time to produce an image for the cover because (and I'm assuming here) he'd be one of the last steps in the process for delivering the album, which was probably either past or coming close to a production deadline and/or "street date" for being released to the record stores.
I would like to have Brian independantly reviewing the covers he didn't do in future album reviews.
Maybe have him tell us how he would have designed the covers, and therefore explore the difference between the official releases and the "Brian Griffin-versions"... That would have been cool...
Interesting idea!! VG:-)
The First nice view and....next ....to be continue 😉
My interpretation of the Black Celebration album cover was that it was supposed to look like both a Cathedral(I didn't notice the banner at first and thought it was the sky) and an apartment block/penthouse.(Adding to the Gothic atmosphere of the album) It made me think of the way society was beginning to integrate technology, advancements in luxury and isolation into itself. (Which is like something out of a JG Ballard novel, very similar to what Gary Numan's songs were about) which to me made sense as it worked with the lyrics of Stripped. Despite the sensual undertones, it (is also very relatable to me) was about a character who wants to pull this person away from what society is becoming, to want something deeper and more real than what the latest advancements, luxurious penthouses and "social events" were offering.
Listening to New Dress while looking at the album cover made me think of American Psycho (it is chillingly effective if you take the chorus of the song Stripped literally) the main character in his penthouse/place of worship, noticing the Prostitute outside has put on a new dress as he sharpens his bonesaw.
This was definitely where Depeche Mode became a lot darker and more powerful and impactful. The original idea of the Fascistic elements is fascinating to. That ties into the lyrics
"You can't change the world
But you can change the facts
And when you change the facts
You change points of view
If you change points of view
You may change a vote
And when you change a vote
You may change the world"
Very reminiscent of the 1933 Elections with Hitler.
Great video Vaughn, it was wonderful to listen to the conversation :)
This may be a little bit of a stretch, but the tulips in the foreground reminded me of a German poster for Blue Velvet. I was going to ask if Brian was inspired by that imagery, but as it happens Black Celebration was released a few months before the movie. Maybe just a coincidence, but it's interesting to me that the message is quite similar. Beyond the beauty looms drear.
Seeing the image as it was originally intended has left me feeling short changed. It's breath taking, honestly. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. If I hadn't seen your original intention I would have thought it to be one of the lesser covers. The "powers" that be really missed the mark and did you and the band a disservice. What would have been a stark and beautiful continuation of their visual representation was reduced to nothing more than a promotional tie-in. Propaganda with a bubble gum wrapper "collect them all" type feeling. I would have preferred it Stripped. The symbols, while not terrible on their own, have continued on with the band and served them well, but they could have featured on the inside jacket, labels, and subsequent singles with the same desired effect. I'm already envisioning what it would have looked like if the title/font for the album was embossed in black just below the border as to not detract from the image. The image itself already captures a lot of the dark themes of this album, but when you pair it with the title, and to a greater extent the title track, it just takes it to that next level. It would have conveyed everything you needed to know about what you were about to hear. This is completely lost with the cropped colour version, when it should have been blatantly obvious.
Brian, how is it possible that you delivered something so perfectly to spec and didn't even realize it?
Now that I found really interesting !!! Love the behind the scenes stuff. Will never look at my DM album covers the same way again. Would love to know the stories behind the DM album titles. I quite like some of Anton's covers though. MFTM , VIOLATOR, PTA are a few ones I like. But I can definitley appreciate the artistic skill/flare of Brian's work.
Hi Vaughn! I really enjoying your videos.👏👍 And thanks for letting us know more about Brian and his work. Great guy, great artist! Now we looking forward to see Anton :) No... Dont rush it or feel too obligated to deliver new stuff. You should enjoy it too. And I know you do. But interview with Anton would be great, though :) (I know youre getting a handfull of recomendations of artist to review) Keep up the good work . I could contribute via Patreon
Thank you my friend , I really appreciate your support and kind words!! VG:-)
Here watching your video,late but this weekend was busy for me,a Lot of work,but always when a have a little space update my You tube videos thanks again.
Thank YOU my friend!! VG:-)
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A thing that occurred to me after understanding how this photograph was made is how similar it is Speak and Spell:
- shot in studio
- use of transparent material (plastic and glass)
- both have a floral element (plastic wrapping used by florists, tulips)
- both were controversial/disliked by thr band at the time but turned out to be timeless
Also, despite Brian not giving in to the literal request of having banners hanging from the skyscrapers, the image really has a menacing, dark feel to it and can represent many things, even corporate greed, conspiracy. It would have been too one dimensional with the Nazi banner type of treatment, imo, so it turned our for the best. The weird aspect ratio even work for some reason!
I would recommend the black cable for your Shure IEs to you, it's much more comfortable than the clear one...
Thank you!! Well spotted, I will check it out!! VG:-)
Really interesting conversation, thanks. Looking at the DM album covers after Black Celebration, I'd agree that other than Violator (and perhaps the 86-98 and re-released 81-85 ones) they're not very memorable, but then as cassettes and CDs replaced LPs, and downloads then came in, maybe there isn't the incentive to put a piece of art on cover?
Well said matey !! VG:-)
Enjoyable interview but have to say, MFTM has always been my favourite DM album artwork. I wonder what Brian's vision would have been.
Realy nice Poster. Have a great time in China Brian. :) Greetings from Bulgaria. :)
Boet, I’d love to have a signed copy of the A broken frame picture for my studio. Can you make it happen meneer?
Great interview! Though I like Brian very much, I completely disagree concerning what was "good" or "bad" in terms of covers... Of course "A broken frame" was a great cover, but in my mind, it didn`t represent the music at all. Not a big fan of the other covers from the early 80s. But MFTM, Violator, SOFAD, Ultra (!) and also some of the later covers like Delta Machine I personally like very much, and I think they do represent the music, the atmosphere, the style in a brilliant way!
Some people have claimed the buildings on the Black Celebration sleeve represent the two buildings of the World Trade Center, with the two glowing orange sections located in approximately the same relative positions as the planes that impacted them. Toward the center left side of the image, there appears to be an aircraft colliding into the building. Below that, the buildings are tilting at an angle, as if they are falling. The gap between the two buildings looks like thick black smoke rising from the buildings that are aflame. Tulips could depict flowers for the fallen. Depeche Mode also posed for pictures at the top of the World Trade Center on 9/11 of 1990 - exactly 11 years before the fateful day. There are also 11 tracks on this album. This is not to suggest that Brian or DM had any foreknowledge of the event - inspiration comes from beyond this realm, in the same way the ouija retrieves its messages.
Fantastic and fascinating video Vaughn!! Atkins definitely came across as a total dick in the remastered documentaries. From what I’ve seen of them both, I can’t really blame Brian for not getting on with him. As an experienced artist it must’ve really grated, being told what to do by a cocky young chancer whose attitude was way bigger than his ability.
*toast* to Brian and you Vaughn 🥂 Always so interesting in hearing Brian talk about the photography on the album covers. I wish that the Black Celebration album cover could have been more creative from his side, but it sounds like he was boxed in by exactly what he needed to do which is horrible not to be able to use Brian's talent to the fullest. It would be interesting like you said to have seen what Music For The Masses' album cover would have looked like if Brian had done it. Anton's cover for Music For The Masses isn't great at all (I like some of Anton's stuff but for me it seems a bit unoriginal... having said that though he has given DM a look, if you will, that in their earlier years might have been missing, but I don't think that missing that look was a bad thing and personally they could all be wearing dresses, I am here for the music and the album cover is just as important, its the first thing we get before listening to the album... Not saying we only buy albums because of the cover but they do visually give us a vision of what might be coming or something like that [my fingers can't keep up with my train of thought]). I am an amateur photographer and I think I could have done better for Anton's first album cover (okay that might be an ego stroke). An interesting exercise would be to see what Brian would have envisioned based on the music in that album. I look forward to seeing Brian again soon and I look forward to the Q & A. Vaughn thank you so much for bringing Brian into our homes and giving him an opportunity to tell us about his history and Depeche Mode's history. I *toast* you both again 🥂 I apologize for the long comment, cheers!
Thank you for your kind words as always James!! A good post there , thank you !!VG:-)
Hey Vaughn. Do you or Brian know who were in charge of creating all of the early DM iconic iconography around every album release?
Did Brian work on the art cover for any of the singles?
And than :. Black Celebration .... but it was just it . First I scraped off the old picture in music , the I gently put up the new one one smoothed out the cover with LP Black It was in 1986. I kept long, becouse it was very intersting cover and inside first melody this rumble. Incredible . I presume most people would share that view, maby only Brian and you Vaughn ;). It doese`t matter becouse I still hear in my hend this rumlbe again , again and again. So this pulsate music in now may like it many peoples . Brian "we had only work"? Realy ? This ins credible but we stay to your version ;) . " shut up " word Brian , why , why ? let him say please , it vas very intersting ideology ;). Brian , sorry I think but success it is work many peopel , their conviction . Idealist which do that creating. I see in this model success: you , Martin , Daniel , Anton and many many people , creating LP which stay on ever entered to the music, O my God I forgot o Depeche Mode , ah this is only addition ;))) Sorry DM , THIS IS JOKE , BIG JOKE. . Right , right , right Brian this bulding , this symbol it is wizual side all this album , his content. Claustrophobia it was very good word Vaughn, In my opion it time which DM spen in Berlin Hansa next to Berlin Wall and this atmosphere those time changed their music not only Depeche but many bands . Strange time , strange place and strange atmosphere ,strange album but wonderful ! Gentlemen: magic absolutly I`m agree ! one more words Gentlemes thanks so much with document and ....... journey through drawbridge ;)
No disrespect to Brian but Anton’s work was just amazing as his
Really really enjoyed this video man !
I wish you could have Brian too take a look at each and every of the following album covers, vaughn, however i understand, as a professional and artist, Brian would decline to comment on other people's work, i just love him, he is not only an artist, hes a very down to earth person, and very honest too, i love him alot, hes a grand master, and i fully believe what he was saying when watching martin atkins talking in the doc, martin even said himself in the video 'we had no clue, but' ...but, he (martin) had no clue.. thats what i got from it, Brian was so criatively limited on that one, but still made an awesome cover, i love Anton's work, i think he is great, however, Brain is a different kind, hes a Master and DM should have stick with him, but i respect Brian's choice to not be imposed with people and demands and limitations to his criativity while doing his work.
About the video, the production effort is skyrocketing, getting really very professional, you should think about making a big documentary about DM, putting all your videos regarding them into a sole DVD/Blu-Ray in HD i would happilly buy it, lets get real, this was better done than many major TV channel docs around, and even the ones we buy when we get the official DVD's from the band, your work about the band has been far more complete than all of those put together The interview and video was just brilliant my friend, just like always, i Ask you please, invite Brian to be around for the ride, as long as it doesnt costs you money for it, hes not only a English inconic photographer he is a great gentleman and i love to hear his stories, i think whoever is a DM fan loves Brian Griffin, for his genious and hard work.
I've come to really love and respect Brian from your videos. It does sound like he was being self sabotaging because he didn't like the idea, as well as the politics behind the scenes were obviously taking a toll on him. And if he feels like Anton or Martyn were using pastiche and cheap marketing tricks well what can I say, it worked on a dilettante like me. Not to mention the many other people who were sold on the DM visual identity following his departure, which I feel Anton especially deserves a lot of the credit for.
Every DM album cover/art was a re-invention until Anton started doing his brush stroke work in 89 and replicated it ever since, and I'm bored of it just like DM's sound since Exciter. Therefore I find Brian Griffin's DM's work has more impact on me.
I need to buy some Broken Frame prints too. Brian, Dave Bascombe and Vaughn have reignited my interest in DM. More so now that he has a EMAX. Get in! 👍
The black-and-white black celebration picture is different to the one on the album, as the beam in the background goes from bottom to top, Not top to bottom, Not sure why. Anyone else see this?
I would like "A broken frame" and "Cronstruction time again" as a poster, or canvas in 1.5m x 1.5m to hang on the wall.
Any contemporary artists have hired Brian?
How much for the prints
Mark hi. They are £65 each. Contact me at info@vaughty.com for more information !! VG:-)
@@VaughnGeorge ill just remortgage my house first
Mark Leaning this is actually cheap if you consider what it is and that they are a mere fraction of the cost of Brian’s original prints . VG😎🎹
“Violator was......ok. But everything else was kind of throw away”. Well, that’s......an opinion . 😆
I believe he was talking about the album's cover art, not the album's music.
Sour grapes.