The F1Power Balance - Scarbs pre-Imola analysis by Peter Windsor
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Craig Scarborough in this video unlocks the secrets behind the Ferrari F1-75. Some of it is aero/chassis; some of it is the power unit. In the build-up to Imola, Craig also reviews the challenges now facing Red Bull (and the reason for Max Verstappen's spectacular retirement from the Australian GP); and talks again about the problems facing Mercedes. With Imola featuring the first of the year's sprint qualifying sessions it's unlikely that too many teams will be trying anything significantly new - so now, as Craig points out, is the time to take stock.
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Three races with a car that looked near as the one they showed up with at testing. I'd say the Red Team hit the spot, alright. But RB and Merc have 20 races to sort themselves. Still, great to see Ferrari back in the thick of things again.
Not really no. If they sort themselves at the 19th one it would be too late. Realistically they have very little time for this season
@@pixelboujee yeah lol was about to say the same thing, realistically they might have 3 or 4 races left to make a comeback else they will need alot of luck.
Gotta drop the link for that shirt. What a livery!
It probably glows in the dark too!
A bastard of a shirt
If I see it or similar again I’m gonna unsubscribe. Who’s gonna blink first Mr Windsor?
I am loving this Ferrari and it's hark back colour scheme to the 80's and early 90's.
Love the content. Hoping you can consider either increasing the mic gain or doing some post processing on the audio levels. Hope I'm not the only one, but I feel like your low-tone voices are a challenge to pickup without having to crank the volume. In any case, food for thought and I'll make due regardless. Thanks for the effort and the content. Cheers from San Francisco!
Agreed!
I keep hoping that someday, Peter consults an audio engineer about how to mix the levels for his youtube videos SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR SCARBS TALKING. I've got full volume across the board(which is blsting on other chanels) and I'm going to have to find my big headphones to actually make out his words. Master volume needs to be bumped by about 10%
He's using scarbs source audio and looks like his source video which is a bit strange.
Best just get dedicated mics both ends and turn off anc on Teams (or whatever video conf they're using).
Ugh it’s fine for me tbh and I’m usually annoyed by poor sound
Scarbs is louder than Peter in the video, for me at least.
Can hear both sides equally well, i woul suggest for you to take a look at your setup
I can hear everything fine and all I'm using is a cheap cellphone. Maybe check YOUR system.
Binotto hinted that their development was focused on optimising their engine for E10 fuel so that there's no horsepower lost when switching to the new fuel. And their close relationship with Shell has allowed them to make gains on E10 combustion, which presumably is where their power unit advantage lies, and teams like Haas and Alfa Romeo are benefitting from that advantage.
I’m sure all the teams have done the same. Merc with Petronas, RBPT with BP, etc
@@sanctemify yes but shell imo is the most qualified fuel company of them all. They’ve been CONSISTENTLY developing fuels for Ferrari in f1 for the better part of 2 decades and have been a racing fuel supplier longer than most of those other companies have existed. Their relationship with Ferrari and know how is second to none. Shell is Ferraris new Michelin relationship. They single handedly Hold the advantage because of their close relationship no matter who shell supplies the fuel too. It’s made for the Ferrari WORKS power unit and their engineers, nobody else. It’ll work in someone else’s engine but they won’t know how to get 100% out of it.
They updated their battery displacement and output as well. They lacked behind in the recovery systems as well. Now they are a match or better
You can't hurry performance,
No, you'll just have to wait.
Performance don't come easy, it's a game of give and take.
No you can't hurry performance.
Just trust in the good times
No matter how long it takes.
Top info Scarb👍
Before the vacuum issue became public, I thought that Red Bull's problem was that they went too far trying to reduce weight since they are (reportedly) so much heavier than the minimum. If the failure did occur on a pressurized part of the system (and it's not seals) that theory could also be applicable here and the fix could drive their weight reduction targets even higher.
When I read about the 'vacuum' issue, I kept thinking it was double talk for 'out of gas'...
One thing not mentioned is that Ferrari (in the last 2 years) had a massive advantage in windtunnel time because of their championship standings. It seems they might even have traded championship standings in 2021 for development possibilities for the 2022 season. And it played out well, as we can see...
That might just be a factor. I doubt they willingly gave away championship standings, though. That seems a bit too big for me, and would come with reduced award money as well. It's going to be interesting to see just how much of an influence the testing-scale actually has over the next few years.
@@curnath if there’s no other way to catch up, what would you do; Keep collecting prize money and remain third best team or put your resources into developing ‘next year’s’ car?
@@lekudos What do you think they do with the prize money? It goes right back into the teams budget, freeing up money for other developements. Now this might be less of a problem for Ferrari than for some smaller teams, but no team actually turns a profit. They are all subsidized by their investors or parent-company. Plus it's not just the prize money. Ferrari in particular would be concious of their standing with their fans.
@@curnath I think the spending caps has eased the money issues, plus Ferrari will always have fans regardless of finish position. If anything a bad year only drives their exuberance higher if the next year is a success.
Who cares, forza Ferrari. Aren't the other teams, RB and MERC the best in the world, with the best engineers and designers?
Scarbs is split on which turbo they running
@kim yo mong I see what you did there!
How you don't have a massive following on YT yet I'll never know. I follow so many F1 news/editorial accounts and yours has rapidly moved to the top of my list. Keep up the awesome content!
@Scott Meredith Puts out 10% of the content (volume) than other channels.
YT rewards both volume and quality - unfortunately, the weighting for liles/subs is geared towards volume.
Oh! Now i got it! I can remember when Ferrari stated that the Engine is a "Super Fast" and that came from Ferrari not the Media. Scarbs you are a Legend!!! So much Fun to listen to you. Thank you very much and also to Mr. Windsor always really interesting stuff!
Hopp Sauber!!! Forza Ferrari!!!
The redbull may be the fastest on the straights but that Ferrari is an all round beast and it’s without doubt the fastest car on track! It’s a joy to see them back at it
it might not be the case anymore matey! in albert park which is a high speed circuit, SF bested the RB during qualy too!
RB had a pace advantage over one lap in all three races. Australia marked the first race, Ferrari outperformed them on race pace. Max and Sergio had the strongest race pace in Jeddah and Bahrain.
Ferrari it's still run their PU in safe mode, as Binotto said, to check deeply the reliability. I think they will unleash all of the power with the 2 engine, once analyzed well the forst engine reliability.
Love your videos.
Please raise the volume 🙏
On the advent of a "new" spec formula, one of two thing will inevitably happen, either one team gets almost absolute suoeriiority out of the box (previously Merc ) or it's cloae enough to be decided on who improves the most throughout the season. The later being the design of the new regs, this looks like being potentialy the best season for many a yaer barring last year. Thanks for the content gents, keep it coming.
Scarbs should start his own youtube channel.
He'd need to get a better internet connection first ;)
He's the only reason I'm here cause PW just talks about driver intangibles🥱
@@BigMacMick lol
Remember that mid season the first team will also loose development time due to the sliding scale rule...
So? The majority of this seasons upgrade work will be done in the first half, second half will be more next season. Plus their main competition will be just behind so no major gains either.
@@elianioriofarrell Mid season still leaves 12 races to go... don't think anyone will stop developing there since there is no change for next year
@@cosminlesutan3574 OK "......", but Ferrari have a very good understanding of this car. It won't be like other years, considering Binottos most better calm approach.
The Ferrari power unit has a distinct tone change on a push lap that the others don’t have. They sound the same as the others until on a push lap where the noise level becomes higher and much more aggressive. All three teams had this noise but the factory team was using it more than the other two.
This is probably crazy thinking because of lack of information, but I can't help but wonder if Ferrari are benefitting in any way from the engine developments they got in trouble for a couple years back. Did they learn something that they were able to further develop and apply this year? They've done a lot of work all around to make their package better down and around the track, but they do seem to be the power class-of-the-field now. Even though I'm not a huge Ferrari fan, I'm enjoying it immensely. It's a exciting team to watch. (And no more moping around for the Tifosi.) Whatever they did, I hope they keep it going. Race weekends are way more fun when we don't know who are crossing the finish line first!
Any thoughts on the fuel used by Ferrari? The change to E10 would provide a new area of research, have Shell come up with something?
Wow that’s an interesting thought, i never speculated on that
It's not the fuel, it's the new Ferrari engine that have a new configuration. It have a pre-combustion chamber and intricate channels upon the engine head, that let them gain combustion power. All teams knows that technology (it's derived from regular road cars) but only Ferrari used it this year cause the others was thinking that was too risky using it.
The heir to the SF70H...with a decent power unit.
Ferrari have done as good a job with AERO as Newey's RB team for two consecutive regulation changes.
Respect.
At the Ozzie race
Should have Williams pulled Albon in ~7 laps from the end for softs ?
its aussie. why are people so ignorant
@@armanromana1580 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussie#:~:text=3%20Chants-,Pronunciation,si%2F%20AW%2Dsee.
@@armanromana1580 ask yourself that.
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Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
@peterwindsor Hey fellas big fan of both of yours. At roughly 2:50 on the video you asked what accounts for that incredible bump in performance in in the engine.
I believe that a good amount of that credit goes to Palantir. And it looks like its spread through every aspect of the organization as its designed to do.
You may have noticed their brand on the sleeves, of the boys Carlos and Charles.
Palantir has been with the team for around 3 years, which is roughly the amount of time it takes for their enterprise and micro level data flow data structuring AI called Gotham really goes online. Its incredibly complex and I am by no means an expert.
But this is not a coincidence by any stretch. You mix that in with a data driven former power train engineer as a team principle, who was probably involved in bringing PLTR in the first place and you cant forget magic Charles and the consistent rock Carlos to boot. They look amazing. Hope it goes to the end though
Love this channel
Peter is having a Gordan Murray moment.
Yeah it seems that the E10 is the source of the problems of the RB18, maybe because Honda were less involved in adapting their engine for it.
BTW over weight can make the porpoising more severe..
The great thing about the design of the FERRARI F1-75 is the flexible design of the car which makes it also very flexible to setup for each track - FERRARI also developed a totally new suspension system for this car.
The engine development team for Red Bull almost the same as Honda's. Honda transfer most of their engineer to Red Bull. And Honda still have their hands on the development too. It shouldn't have much problem.
According to Mark Hughes in an official f1 article, Ferrari’s engine is not a split turbo.
I remember during the development that they were on two routes of development and they were about to go split when they discovered there was actually something new going the other way. I’m sure this channel did the report.
Given that might rain in Imola, what car should in theory benefit from it? Should Ferrari’s more stable car and better at slow corners give them the upper hand at slippery conditions?
Probably Mercedes they produce a massive amount of downforce and with the lower speed and wet weather tyres being 1cm or 10mm bigger the car will naturally be higher , so they won't have the porpoising problem whilst producing all that doenforce to in the wet.
They seem to always say rain is the great equalizer. Just look at George last year, put Williams on the front row in Spa. Depending on how wet, it usually comes down to wit and sheer courage
@@thecoheed11 would be nice to see a full wet weekend for a change and not a washout, can't even remember the last time we had a full wet weekend for all sessions.
@@beany1987 spa 2021
@@lucadanyvesstoelman9025 not a washout I said
Ferrari's secret: they have a Snapdragon processor and sponsor! 🤣🤣🤣
Audio was a litle low on This video
Nice discussion but what are the team chances should it rain next weekend? I think Ferrari would prefer a dry race
I wonder if the RB is faster. All they have done is trim it out to achieve speed trap performance. Whether a car is faster or not is how it achieves a lap and on evidence the Ferrari is doing it at a canter and with a significant drag penalty. Should they trim it out they could achieve gob stopping speeds. But why bother.
Wolff says Ferrari have gone from 7 bhp behind Mercedes to 7 bhp ahead.
He also says this is 'unprecedented'.
RB isn't the fastest, the evidence of that was the last race, when Leclerc struggled at the SC restart (he take some marbles outside the racing line, tooking him off some traction) and still Verstappen wasn't able to pass him on the straight when Ferrari, with a car with more downforce than RB, seriously opened their gas.
how did neither of you bring up the fuel reg change as a source for ferrari's advantage?
I am surprised that RB and MB did not do the unthinkable. Complain to FIA that Ferrari must be doing something illegal otherwise how could the brilliant minds in RB/MB are not able to match the Italians. /sarcasm for humor
There’s still time. Toto is already at it chatting shit about how SF has done a miracle turnaround that he’s never seen before. Some shite about SF being 14 bhp behind MB last year to 14 bhp ahead this year. Load of sour grapes from a loser.
There hasn't been a single track were RB have outpaced Ferrari, they have at best managed to give them a race and for the most part that's debatable.
They have managed to win one race out of 3 via the smallest margin possible and aided by favourable safety car interventions.
Make no mistake that currently Ferrari are quicker and by a decent margin.
RB have reliability issues and a weight issue which will eat into their budget cap (Ferrari also need to lose weight but then they have more wind tunnel and CFD).
The development race that many are anticipating is going to be far less impactful for the chasing pack than many think, simply put they will not be able to through money at it like in the past.
Will Ferrari be able to maximize theyre advantage over RB & merc of more wind tunnel and CFD time till mid-season. Same thing with Haas
I love the scarface t-shirt
Hope RB fixes their reliability issues and MB performance and we have a better season.
agreed, No dominance wanted. Hopefully we can have more competition. But credit to Ferrari.
@@butterflyblueshorts for now that barely have competition
@@butterflyblueshorts
I want Ferrari to dominate.
Fuck Mercedes
As long as Merc is not at the front, im happy. Change is good.
anyone know where to watch the full conversation ?
Hello Peter! Do you think the Ferrari will lead the upgrade effectiveness over the season?
How is f1 going to regulate the spending with red bull and control data aswell, you have red bull then their powertrains department alongside honda aswell still involved and you have alpha tauri. It would be nightmare just to regulate those through the seaoson from a data and financial stand point let alone the rest of filed.
I sure enjoy you two guys
So how come redbull did not face these problems during testing?
If you've ever had a fuel pressure regulator go bad, you've smelt the smell that Max got in Australia
Why is ferrari looking good now...they learned from their mistakes,even if others catch up ,they will always be in the mix on every track looks like
I wonder why? But I can't remember such concern when the Merds dominated F1 for more than 7 years?!
I am consistently surprised when the RB catches or passes the Ferrari at the end of every straight, and people are still talking out of their butts and saying that Ferrari have some sort of power advantage. The CAR is fast, it makes the engine look alot better.
Look at the merc, the car sucks so it makes the engine look terrible.
But Ferrari HAVE that advantage. Firstly cause they was running still their PU in safe mode and having a more downforce setting than RB. Secondly cause Red bull used smaller wings and less draggy setup to keep up the straight speed with Ferrari.
And the evidence of the superiority of Ferrari Pu is in that Australian restart under SC, where even if Leclerc get some marbles under his tyres, without giving him the traction it needed to starting well, Verstappen was still unable to pass him on the straight, both with close drs.
@@solinvictus1234 1st we dont know other than speculation about engine modes and downforce levels.
The Ferrari DOES have amazing slow speed traction, (which usually indicates lower HP) and getting a jump on restarts and every slow corner exit without wheelspin gives you better acceleration than someone who is spinning the tires or has to feather the throttle.
@@robh9577 1. Was well stated by Binotto that them until Imola would have running the PU in safe mode.
2. An amazing traction, on contrary, indicates tons of HP combined with a refined setup. HOW you put down that HP will give you an amazing or a really bad traction (it depend by many factors, erogation, suspension setting and suspension geometry...even the Camber angle can affect in good or bad the traction you have)
Do we or do we not have a great season already...my Spanish vocabulary is not very big or pretty....mucho interesting thanks gents..hope the weather is nice an normal for yal
Nothing great....yet. interesting and different currently but nothing great.
it seems that mercedes has correlation issues with its car, as toto has said that the current car is 1 second faster in simulator. I would think the issue is coming from raising the ride height but it seems to be more than that. mercedes tend to get better and better as the season goes on at understanding their "diva cars" so maybe thats what we will see until they bring a permanent fix for porpoising.
The simulators are clearly not simumulating
That's because they had the least amount of wind tunnel and CFD allowance than anyone else... And they are still handicapped by it until mid season when the scale changes again...
Getting better from the start of the season when you are already winning is not the same as getting better during the season when you haven't resolved your initial problems, yet - because that is your total focus. Most of Merc's modern F1 incarnation has been the former and not the latter. They are experiencing the same reset that Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Red Bull, and other teams have experienced in the past, when the rug was pulled out from under their feet and their key advantage negated by a rules reset. There are no 'givens' in that respect, in this new era of F1. You need a long F1 memory to fully understand the reality of the position that they are currently in.
@@stuartmiller7419 true but it’s not like in those eras those teams became irrelevant or that currently Mercedes’ is so irrelevant. They are still 3rd fastest with the most pace problems of any team. Their radical design seems to have some pace so they can adapt their design or just fix their issues, we will see them much more competitive
@@Jay-nk6dm I'm sure that they will become more competitive as the season progresses, yes. What I am saying is that there is no magic button that fixes their current issues and makes them win everything again, even though Mercedes fans have conditioned themselves to believe that there must be after the last eight years of an era that is now over.
I sincerely hope the Brit media (you two included) diesnt get even close the crossing the line of raising suspicion about Ferrari early dominance
The fact that you dont know how they have managed to start ahead does not mean they have tricks Please stay away from "wondering" what they have done That would be shamefull if you did
Stop watching their channels than
I will as soon as I sense a hint of Britt Bull$$hit regarding how unffair the Ferrari superiority is causing unhapiness to MB and the ethernal victim LULU ..
@@csgarage3682 I hope Texas gets flooded with Mexicans. See ya
Well, brits did not expect Ferrari to be so strong and they believed that Ferrari was strong only in testing. Wrong assumption, because they had the most mileage in testing. Nobody talked about superfast ignition system before except Ferrari. They cannot talk about side pods because they are not sure how it works. Ferrari so far is the best Grand Prix car.
Do Ferrari have a recent history of being cheats ?
I don’t understand all those E10 problems. E10 is the normal fuel in Europe since a couple of years. Renault, Mercedes Ferrari and Honda must have enough information on what kind of 🦭 mgs to use with E10, and which other materials have problems with it 🤷♂️
Ciao guys!!
We have seen this so often from Ferrari, having the best car over the winter and start of the season but soon tail off as the season progresses.
Aaaaand le clerc also 👏🏽👏🏽 harmony indeed
Red bull have been quick for 2-3 seasons now and still had the resources for this season too!
Mercs will be winning soon also so looking like a mega season to come 😻
Good to see Ferrari back on it 🙌🏽
redbull could easly be better on its tyres if it wanted to but they choose to run small wings and less drag setup they go for the fast on straights approach they always had the same prob previous years againt the merc
Nobody noticed 3:39?
Ferrari no upgrade in Imola..means theres a lot more in their engine
When shell helps develop the e10 fuel used in f1, what do you expect.
What are you talking about? The engine manufacturers all use their own fuel
As above they all run different fuel brands hence the marketing Petronas, Mobil, etc.
Ferraris only choice was to reduce parasitc losses and now they have the fuel they need.
Thanks could u guys go into F1 dampers I'm not real familiar with what F1 currently uses an would explain the suspension ban of what
Charles is doing good because he has the best car, or is it Lewis that only wins with the best car?
F1 fuel systems work at 100 bar!? That's staggering.....
I think reliability fixes aren't covered in the cost cap. RB made a long term move going all in on performance
No it counts, every damaged part needs to be recreated which costs money, for example, verstappen is already at the 3rd engine, id he needs another one, they will need to build it and that will cost a lot of money
@@ignls8809 Rubbish
I think they have the same unit from 2019 but they were using some new fuel as everyone was complaining about the smell. In 2020 they had improved the engine combustion and battery power. Also they did work with fia on e10 fuel testing for 2 years now
The suspension has gone from exactly didn't we have last year some sort of suspension control device hydraulic or not electric right..but I thought the was some suspension device on the 2021s...thanks gents
I think Ferrari, Haas (and to a lesser extent Alpine) all look like they have taken a significant step forward, but in effect the previous two seasons actually made them look worse than they really had the potential to be. All of them focused on '22, so appeared to drop behind in development. Haas were limited by budget, Alpine were limited by the old '19 tub/chassis, and Ferrari were obviously holding back on PU performance in order to have more development time [introducing their ERS update much later last year]
Marzipan made Haas look bad whilst Mick Schuie came to terms with an underdeveloped car. Haas concentrated on this year's regs and with K Mag found a driver who could wrestle around it's initial shortcomings and help the young Schuie to improve. Alpine may be a one trick pony as it deceived to flatter in the first two rounds but now needs serious upgrades to keep the momentum going. Only the Dancing Donkeys have shone thanks to their tremendous team finally starting to work together as a unit rather than a bunch of individuals intent on only dealing with their own departments. Binnoto must have seriously banged some heads together at Maranello?
@@mikehipperson Wow, you managed to remove so much context, just to speculate and write cliches.
How about this; you don't become a front running team overnight, and Ferrari started rebuilding internally several years ago (just like they said they did when everyone was saying Binotto should have been sacked)?
Looks like Alpine have the same kind of car as Ferrari - one that the drivers enjoy driving, and without some unreliability (like RB) would be much higher up in the points already.
Given that pourpoising is coming from the balance of upper an lower aero...an slight track rises an low spots...it bouncing thru the tires compressing and rebounding an area where there may not be the tires are taking the braunt...may be soft bump too..dampening
I still say give them skirts, or ban the ground FX for good. Even the Ferrari verticl oscillation is horrendous. I thought 1998 was a shock, this is the worse reg change since. Cars look sluggish. Ferrari just has the best out of all of this crappy car. Until they get the groud FX, ride height either back to modern, or nix a 40 yr old blunder, I as many others are not fans of this spec'd car.
I will watch less.
They tried to fix oscillation and had hopes with the skirts in 1977-1979, was brilliant. But nixed them as we know, in 1980. So it seams like trying to wake up a dead horse and hope there is a solution. Given the problems, its the same as before sliding skirts... 18" wheels? Why? Ot causes visibility issues as suspected.
I know I sound like a negative influence, my subjectivity is my own. I hope all of this changes rapidly. It took several years to accept the nasty sound of turbo charged [more expensive] engines.
The scream of NA V10's is sorely missed. Took awhile to accept the change in 2014
Even if i agree with you about V10s engine, one thing you say is completely wrong - sluggish.... the Cars look much more agile than the 2021/2020/2019 cars. These were the most sluggish cars ever! Even if they were the fastest cars ever, they looked that slow and sluggish and todays cars look much more agile and faster without any doubt! And the other thing is - there is nobody who does not like this cars. Its much better than the boring cars and races of recent years...
@@fam.hunger5244 May I rephrase, slower in the corners. It is down to subjectivity. If you like them, bless you mate. I personally am not a fan. Not as nimble in my subjective opinion. For me, it is more boring as they freight train down a straight, then lock up more so than ever. It is just my opinion. Comparing the liability of the 1998 cars to these cars, is huge difference. Thats just the way I see it.... even if I cant see over the 18" wheels LOL.
@@fam.hunger5244 In fact, I started watching Super Formula which is more action packed. Not as fast, but perform like a proper formula car. Wheels are of proper size. When and if F1 gets rid of ground FX, I may watch again. But ocillation/porposing is a problem of the past, why Ross brought it back without sliding skirts is beyond me!! If you watch a race from 1979, you will see skirted ground FX cars that race proper. The skirts keep the air in, by which ride height can come back down. Though they are huge with grip, the speed and momentum got scary, so they banned it. Without skirts, the oscillation porposing will not stop. Its a bad call by Ross B. in my opinion. I think Mercedes would agree with me. I know Lewis a nd George do. Innovation is great, when it heads in the right direction. FIA are moving backwards, as a result, the liability to enhance a turd regulation is a never ending uphill battle. he hope to kill slipstream noise, but all the over weight issues are fighting against it. Enjoy it if you like. My opinion is my own. Untill they come back to modern designs, I wont pay to watch it on TV
It's funny to see how Mercedes has already been discounted, made to look redundant.
Poor old Leclerc 😢.
Bahrain and Saudi, Red Bull was right on it. Pure speed it looks fairly close, Red Bull's car is unreliable though.
The only race Red Bull was faster was in Saudi. In Bahrain Max got close at the end due to safety car
@@arnabdas4365 did you seriously miss the part in that race when Verstappen took the lead 3 times. Even qualifying was close. Bahrain was a pretty straight gun fight, and Ferrari won with just a slightly better car and a driver that outsmarted his opponent. Red Bull was right there all weekend and at times even looked quicker.
Pure speed SEEMS close, except if we analyze two factors:
1. Ferrari already claimed that until Barcelona (or probably Miami) would have used their PU in safe mode, to deeply check the reliability of the new engine.
2. Ferrari always running with more aero solutions (so more downforce and consequentially more drag) than MB.
If you think about that and then you go to see how Verstappen was unable in the straight, with closed DRS, to pass a Leclerc that, due marbles caught off the racing line, struggled at the restart without having traction...it's clear how Ferrari is far ahead RB regarding traction (that becomes subsequentially max speed).
@@solinvictus1234 it doesn't really matter what the teams say publicly regarding their own car. That means nothing. The only thing that matters is the stop watch. Every team goes as fast as they can in a race weekend so that's the benchmark. Bahrain was extremely close, Ferrari had the edge. Saudi was extremely close, Red Bull had the edge. Australia, Ferrari had a clear advantage. 2 out of 3 races were neck and neck, the other wasn't as close. That's the score at this point, we won't know if Ferrari is indeed miles ahead until more races happen and it materializes.
@@TMJ32 In Saudi if we go to see it well, to Leclerc was denied a chance to attack and pass Verstappen on the straight at 2 laps from the end, due the yellow flag. No complaining about it, are races, but i will not say that RB had the edge. Surely that was head to head battles but we know something about that races...Red Bull pointed more on straight speed (a car with less downforce) Ferrari goes opposite betting on cornering track sectors.
So what will happen if both will do the same bet? Is what, for me, happened in Australia. RB wasn't able to bet purely in straight speed due circuit conformation (Albert Park is not a track made for speed, but it have a lot of sectors that needs a well balanced and plenty of downforce car) and we seen the difference with Ferrari, with Ferrari giving 5-6 tenths per lap to RB.
Ferrari will want to win here
Mercedes are back in the hunt after a disastrous first race that had the power units representing the bottom of the field in practice, qualis and the race. Only two Mercedes power units in the top ten and five for Ferrari. Look at last week and the tide has changed. Five Mercedes in the top ten and only two Ferraris.
"Mercedes are back in the hunt" nope, thr last race gived you that impression due events, but without SC the gap from Ferrari was still 1 minute and more. With Ferrari gaining 1 sec per lap over MB.
@@solinvictus1234 well, okay then. I guess you were not watching the video of the additional instruments on the 44 car to find out where the problems are. And... Maybe you want to go back and watch last year when Mercedes suddenly was fast enough to race through the field.... Or not. 😂
@@uprightfossil6673 The "instruments" you're citing was sensors calculating the change of altitude of the set up, under the car, for a total of 1.5 kilos more. That transformed in thents per second it's equal to lose a thent per lap. And actually only Hamilton had it, not Russell.
I know way better than you what Mercs had and how that "instruments" works. And believe me, nothing as changed, only the lucky events of that SC and the setting mistakes of Red Bull didn't ended to see the MB at 30 sec feom RB and 1 minute from Ferrari.
@@solinvictus1234 and yet you forgot to mention that last year suddenly Mercedes were racing through the field like a hot knife through butter. You haters are so easy to Dissect it's almost too easy. Keep on acting like you know everything and can predict the future... I am sure there's a sucker out there that believes you. I don't.
i think mercedes is still have plenty of potential... if you looks at qualify anyway Ferrari is not seconds away, it's just some tenth of seconds away. I hope that Ferrari keep wroking hard and be prepared for the usual "Mercedes magical comeback" especially in true straight speed (they used to be faster than redbull and ferrari is struggling with rb on that )
For me it is a similar pattern of performance as 2019 where Ferrari's were very strong. I can't explain their ICE and energy recovery (MGU-H/K) gains yet but I'm already very suspicious.
FORZA FERRARI‼️
...the Red Bull almost exploded...
Yes Ferrari definitely great but season opening shocker....it does nor look like it ...it is not going tovlast they look solid....even with dolphins......
Another video, another demonstration that you don't know how audio levels work.
“The Ferrari isn’t necessarily the quickest car, it’s the most consistent. It isn’t a “peaky” car!” - Scarbs
😆 the max fanboys are gonna cry British bias now.
The Mercedes w12 was definitely like the rb18 is this year. Last years RB16B was a lot more like this years F175
huh? There are more ways to make a car quick than outright power and drag... the ferrari is still clearly the quickest car on the grid just not the fastest and they utilise their immense engine power to put a bigger wing and downforce on their car, hence less degradation
@@manuelight you’re not an expert. Just a max RBR fan with an opinion. I’ll take scarbs opinion. Max clearly didn’t do the best job in the fastest qualifying car in Jeddah.
Don't try to turn things around,
Lewis has his own "Crybaby choir" Max doesn't!
Immense engine power and significantly down on top speed and having similar acceleration numbers as the overweight redbull.
No the Ferrari engine is competitive unlike the previous 2 years but there is no evidence that it is the sole reason of their success.
Honestly I am much more impressed on how the car performs on any corner type.
The balance the tyre life and performance it unlocks and the ease of setup every weekend is mind boggling for a complete new type of car.
They just got everything right at the start.
@@51bikerboy uhhh....sorry but max/RB fan base is absolutely toxic.
Alonso for the win at Imola
All I know is that heavily penalised 2020 season looks to have been perfect timing for Ferrari. Almost like the FIA promised short term pain for long term gain to get the new regs right with the pressure of expectation removed because of the ‘cheat engine’
Tinfoil hats have come out again I see. Some things never change.
Using food product to make fuel is a totally ridiculous process. Those crops could be used to help people, use oil based fuels and keep going with fuel limits. If you think oil is the problem in our world you are fast asleep at the wheel of life, or obviously do not wear modern clothing, nor live in a modern home, walk around with a mobile phone and think the world should run on unicorn farts.
How enlightened you are!
@@nickframe50 Stop clutching your pearls, dear.
looks like mercedes will never win another race. next hamilton will be driving for ferrari
2nd
#standwithukraine stick to F1 Peter...you are completely blind to what is going on there geopolitically.
Ferrari were caught cheating with their engine in 2019 and it wasn't revealed until later in that season so lets wait and see if they have done the same this year.
Nope. Ferrari was using a loophole in the rules in 2019 (as Mercedes that used loopholes for 8 consecutive years). When Red Bull asked a rule clarification to FIA, FIA further stricted that rule upon fluxometer and Ferrari stopped to use that loophole.
That's not cheating. If Ferrari would have continued to use that loophole it would have been cheating, but they didn't.
FIA checked, deemed legal and sealed until 2026 all this year ICE, so there's no way someone is cheating now.
Newey develops better then anyone else in season
He didn’t last season
Can he fix an unreliable PU though?
He does not. He did not last season, he did not in 2014-2020 and he did not from 1991-2010. So - no Newey was never someone like that. Neweys cars were either dominant from the very beginning, or they had no chance of winning the championship as he isn't good at developing.
@@Astronurd
Yes he did, the aero on the RedBull was great and the reason it was able to keep up with the Mercedes, despite being down on power.
Nah. Newey should learn how to let engine breath properly and not sacrifying all the cooling area of the car in favour of the aero, otherwise engines will explode.
Let’s hope that Red Bull and Adrian don’t try to solve their issues by crying like little girls to the FIA until they punish Ferrari (as they’ve done in the past, i.e. 2018)… 😭😭😭
Unless they are cheating AGAIN it won ‘t be necessary
@@johngriffiths118 even when they were caught cheating it was because Red Bull whined until the rules and their interpretation was altered so that the Ferrari genius could be labeled cheating. My hope is the biased FIA doesn’t bend over for Red Bull again… what’s been nice to see though, given Red Bull and Mercedes performance is that Karma does seem to exist.
No doubt Ferrari have cheated again to achieve such a powerful pu.
Your comment means they have cheated in the past, which is false.
And they are not cheating now either, they simply have focused on this year's car during the last season.
No doubt you're an F1 ig no rant. Ferrari never cheated, they was using a loophole (totally legal to be used, if is not specified in the rules or ruled) in the rules in 2019. When Red Bull asked a rule clarification to FIA, FIA further stricted that rule upon fluxometer and Ferrari stopped to use that loophole.
That's not cheating. If Ferrari would have continued to use that loophole it would have been cheating, but they didn't.
The today engines was all checked, deemed legal and sealed by FIA until 2026. No chance anyone is cheating.