Ancestral worship or better yet veneration is an effort to recognise the continuous chain of existence that jas brought about your own. It is a way to maintain your connection with that continuous chain, recognising that much as you did not create yourself so your ancestors never created themselves and... because of the miracle of your existence... you are thankful.
That’s a good shallow narrow minded explanation, it’s more than just acknowledging the continuous chain of existence This are spirits that are believed to mediate before god and the living, This are same spirits that will continue the spiritual inheritance within the family to select or appoint one as a traditional healer The manifestation of it brought about sickness and illness, even dangerous encounters if one doesn’t consent This is not about acknowledging as many tend to use that shallow definition
@@ChrisMarotola do not confuse manipulation by traditional healers and coercion by like-minded family with the real issue you are discussing. And abstain from using labels such as 'shallow minded ' to discredit an argument you may not understand because that adds no weight or value to your own logic
@@kodekubenini6163 it’s not about manipulation of of some traditional healers, this is a fact, ancestor spirits can bless and curse, they can take and give, they require continuous sacrifice and rituals, Im just showing you the bigger picture this spirits are not merely about honoring a continuous chain but they’re revered so much, thru prayer and worship, an please don’t tell me they don’t worship and pray to ancestors, look up the definitions of those words
@@ChrisMarotola as I said before, traditional spirituality as practiced by most is a cult. You are compelled to do things under a threat of some kind as you have already illustrated. In that respect it operates much like the cults of organised religion which compel you to righteousness under the threat of hellfire or eternal damnation or excommunication or...or...etc. True spirituality however is a deeply personal experience and is not regulated by tradition or doctrine.
1.1 The different spiritual practices by different groups is only a matter of interpretation by those groups. It is much like a programming language, no matter how different from the next, how different the GUI might even be, the outcome remains the same...if it's a phone it'll make calls, Mac/windows produces docs, PLC's IBM or Siemens... same purpose. Therefore, Tswana or Ndebele or any other practice or choice of customs...all practice spirituality... recognise the oneness of all.
Hallelujah 😂 Glory to Jesus Christ, the Only true Son of God. Thank you. Also do touch on the 3rd eye stories, does God want us to use crystal stones, to cleanse😢
I think that there was a form of religious belief before colonialism. It’s documented by the colonists in history. But many aspects of African spirituality evolved from a response to the missionary work of Christianity from Europeans. Missionary work was a massive part of Europeans settling in Africa
You very right, a religious belief, not the term “African spirituality” this term specifically was a reaction to colonialism connotations attached to African religion as missionaries deemed it pagan
@@ChrisMarotola it seems you're sidestepping the main issue. Your video focused on the practice, using 'African Spirituality' as a related concept. As someone else noted, this video highlights your knowledge gaps, making it a laughable display.
@@obaobirin3608It was never a monolithic entity. Each tribe had their own spirituality. The Maasai of Kenya don't believe in Ancestors or After life. The Zulus don't have God concept but rather a first ancestor. The Fon says God is both Male and Female and the Yoruba say God is Male. There were religions but not a Religion. Point of the video is to debunk the idea of a monolithic spirituality for all Africans. And even critique various concepts in the modern idea of African Spirituality.
kindly point them out, give me something tangible to work on, otherwise, you havent said anything rational, whats your counter argument enklerk, you sound like a dog that barks in the yard only, come out and couter argue, patiently waiting, and if you willing, lets host a skype or zoom call and talk this,
2. Ancestral veneration is a universal concept just as spiritually IS a universal concept. African spirituality therefore is nothing more than spirituality by Africans. There is no special spirituality. There are however groups that have better definitions for spiritual concepts and others who have other more occult expressions of the same
1. African spirituality is not a reaction to colonialism. Ubuntu is the embodiment of what you refer to as African spirituality, it's never been called African spirituality until the adoption of the English language through colonialism.
I hear your point Look, every tribe or race has a way of their living, they also have the spiritual way of doing things, and that’s their religion, and religion can be so much intertwined with culture that at the end, you can’t tell the difference between the two, Now my point is, there was a concept of spirituality within our different tribes, which is religion, the colonizers called it African religion, to an extent that they labeled it pagan, The early theologians surely after democracy and all, wanted to shift away from the colonial connotations attached to the African religion as pagan, then became or was then called “African spirituality” Resulting to my point that, the concept of African spirituality (this terminology especially of “African spirituality” is a reaction to colonialism, If we continued to call it African religion, this specific terminology, then I wouldn’t say it’s a reaction to colonialism, because vele fundamentally, it is a religion, we have Yoruba religion, Xhosa religion, Chinese religion, Indians and all
And if African spiritually is true, then European spiritually should also be thing. The implication is that we live in a moral relative world where colonialism is not obctectively immoral but its a practice of European spirituality. The concept of African spirituality falls up in so many ways
@@Siboniso-t5m honestly I do, it was questions that led me to Jesus Christ, Questions like why do we need Jesus Christ if we traditional healers who are able to see in the spirit, while we have ancestors to bless and help, but in my quest, I realized Jesus was superior above them all
help us understand the concept of God, and which God to be specific, from which perspective of religion do you come from, African religions, Islam, atheism religion, or Christianity(which i doubt)
Blessings, we don’t have a name of God in isiZulu or any other language, basically, we have unkulunkulu which generally means God But if you know the creation myths of isiZulu then you realize that “unkulunkulu” is the great great grandfather, the first man that came out of bees of reeds, then you imvelinqangi who came out of darkness to create the world, resulting to unkulunkulu being the first man So we don’t have the name of true Jehovah as in the Bible, We have transliteration of Jesus to uJeso, God (in general) to unkulunkulu Jehovah to uJehova Because the name of God in Hebrew is Yahweh, you can transliterate that to uYawe 😇, what do you think
@@ChrisMarotola Thanks for responding! I heard Bisrat mention it the other day, but he had to move to another point. So, if logic applies, uNkulunkulu could easily be younger or within the lineage of Adam? If uMvelingqangi is actually God because he created the world. So He's the guy in the Bible who says: "let there be ABC"? So uMvelingqangi "created" uNkulunkulu? If he was the first man, is then a generation before Adam or possibly Adam himself? Are we missing a book before Genesis in the Bible? At least the Zulu translation 🤣🤣🤣
The ancient Egyptians wrote about a tribe that came from Israel called the Hyksos but this tribe was cast out for worshipping an evil god it is strange for me to understand why your god had to kill innocent babies in Egypt just to get Moses out Moses is not a Hebrew name it's Egyptian he was raised in the palace from an infant age Ramases Atmoses
@@Siboniso-t5m correct, Moses is an Egyptian name, I understand different perspectives to the plagues, and thru the plagues it was when the Egyptians experienced the Hebrew God, but the plagues weren’t truly against the people, but against the gods of Egypt, the problem is, when my God overpowers your god, you will definitely see mine as evil, how many signs did Yahweh have to perform to convince pharaoh of the time to let his people go, Yahweh gave this guy a chance but he kept on hardening his own heart till Yahweh hardened it for real But let’s personalize it to you, someone is holding your children hostage, he’s abusing them in all kinds of abuses, you firstly speak with him in a civil way to let you children go, but he hardens his heart and punishes your children even more after your request, you come and do magic tricks, turning rodent snake, river to blood, swamp of frogs, locust but this guy denies and punishes your children even more, and keep in mind, all the 8 plagues were civil ones, no harm to the people, as an ultimatum, what would you have done to such an individual, keep in mind, this is not really about him but his gods, all the 10 plagues are judgments against each god of Egypt
The truth is not what you hear from outside, but tge truth is within bro. Everything you have said is just from outside because you are too absorbing instead of affecting. There is nothing called "African Religion". There is nothing we can do when one's ancestors are attacked by their own child.Who are we to direct your soul....?
“Oh what a shame when a black child speaks against the ancestors”🫢🙂↕️ You realize you haven’t said anything rational right, instead of focusing on what I have said and come with a counter argument, you talk about your feelings being hurt when one within speaks against, isn’t true what I am saying, don’t think I’m incorrect, then give your counter argument, unless this was your opening statement, Great Scholars, and theologians acknowledge there’s African religion, every group of people or tribe have a religion, Europeans have a religion, Chinese have a religion, Lemme help you Religion is defines as a holistic system of beliefs, practices, rituals that connect individuals and communities with the spiritual realm, ancestors and natural world and moral values that are centered around a deity or deities
You have very surface-level knowledge of the subject you are attempting to debunk. Half-truths are inherently dangerous. "Study to show yourself approved". The entire African continent does NOT start and end with your limited knowledge of South African practice. If you have no concrete in-depth knowledge, go learn and stop misleading your audience.
@ChrisMarotola Lazy clapback from a wannabe analyst. I already replied under another comment where you were trying to divert attention from the main topic. Stop embarrassing the Christ you claim to represent. Read up.
you mean this comment "it seems you're sidestepping the main issue. Your video focused on the practice, using 'African Spirituality' as a related concept. As someone else noted, this video highlights your knowledge gaps, making it a laughable display." it still doesn't say anything, please move your tail between your legs and lets get it on, I'm asking for a counter argument to atleast one of the points I have mentioned be rational,
It seems as though comments that don't line up with your beliefs mysteriously vanish...no matter... Allow me to point out a few things you might be overlooking. Following the logic of your favourite book at Romans 8 11 you must accept that within you, yes you, resides the same spirit that resurrected Jesus Christ... meaning that in all man...even your ancestors. That being so, and firmly established by Jesus at Luke referencing Psalm 82 v 6... you are a god...just like your ancestors...and no not God...god... because within you is the essence of God...the spirit of God. All mankind is animated by the same spirit except that through religion the powers that be have monopolized the concept of the Christ...in order to hold you captive...by capturing you alive like a fish ( I will make you fishers of men...) Your body is held captive through religion and your belief that you are good for nothing (total depravity) allows your mind to accept the lie that within you there is no spirit of God.
If Bible butchering was a comment, it would be this comment, Context bro, context, Rom 8:11, is for Christian believers who personally welcome the Holy Spirit upon themselves, if you’re not a Christian, then you and I don’t carry the same spirit So that spirit, is for true Christian’s who have fully given their lives to Jesus Psalm 82:6 Was addressed to ancient Israelite judges and magistrates, emphasizing their divine appointment and responsibility to uphold God’s justice This line doesn’t suggest humans are ontologically equal to God or posses inherent divinity Rather “you are gods(elohim in Hebrew)” Highlights stewardship of God’s justice and accountability The context in Psalm 82 address judges, not all general folks And the Hebrew word elohim, means divine authority, not inherent divinity. If religion holds you captive, was Jesus Christ also held captive, because He was religious, He attended and followed all Jewish laws and festivals, with a higher perspective, that’s only for religious folks, So, was Jesus religious?
@@ChrisMarotola Respectfully, you are wrong. If you were correct or your statements true you would have quoted a scripture in which the bible expressly stated such logic. But to be fair to you, that is the whole point of theology, to wiggle out of logic and reason. Where does Jesus or the bible specify these technicalities?
@@ChrisMarotola Again, expectedly, you make the assumption that the bible is the word of God. Not only that but you are also reading into the text thoughts that are not explicitly stated. There's a word for that.
@@ChrisMarotola Isaiah 64:6 King James Version (KJV)But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. There is no easy way to reach you or anyone for that matter...so don't stress about it, you will think better one day. You may be like a filthy rag but I know that I'm not.
@@ChrisMarotola you know what, the funny thing is that you hold the belief that you are made in the image of God and you recognise that because God is Spirit your likeness to Him/Her cannot be physical rather it must be spiritual. You know this about all mankind, yet you don't understand that the scripture applies to all mankind because all are made in the likeness of God. You insist on doctrinal statements that make no sense while the scriptures are painfully clear.
@@asaiahhanif-saeed5167 The colonial mindset is characterised by the wholesale adoption of an oppressor's belief system whose purpose is to destroy the culture of the colonised to the point where the colonised see themselves in the foreign and oppressive culture forced upon them. Basically seeing reality through the lens of the culture responsible for the destruction of your own.
Truth be told, Amen.
Amen 🙏🏼
Subscribed bro, let’s go!
Thanks bro, 🙌🏼🙌🏼blessings
Straight to my WhatsApp status🙌🏽🙏🏾❤️
Glory to Jesus, thank you Annie 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Haaibo this list is too fire my brother...God bless you.
@@khayonxumalo5993 glory to Jesus, thank you very much Khayo😇🙌🏼
Ancestral worship or better yet veneration is an effort to recognise the continuous chain of existence that jas brought about your own. It is a way to maintain your connection with that continuous chain, recognising that much as you did not create yourself so your ancestors never created themselves and... because of the miracle of your existence... you are thankful.
That’s a good shallow narrow minded explanation, it’s more than just acknowledging the continuous chain of existence
This are spirits that are believed to mediate before god and the living,
This are same spirits that will continue the spiritual inheritance within the family to select or appoint one as a traditional healer
The manifestation of it brought about sickness and illness, even dangerous encounters if one doesn’t consent
This is not about acknowledging as many tend to use that shallow definition
@@ChrisMarotola do not confuse manipulation by traditional healers and coercion by like-minded family with the real issue you are discussing. And abstain from using labels such as 'shallow minded ' to discredit an argument you may not understand because that adds no weight or value to your own logic
@@kodekubenini6163 it’s not about manipulation of of some traditional healers, this is a fact, ancestor spirits can bless and curse, they can take and give, they require continuous sacrifice and rituals,
Im just showing you the bigger picture this spirits are not merely about honoring a continuous chain but they’re revered so much, thru prayer and worship, an please don’t tell me they don’t worship and pray to ancestors, look up the definitions of those words
@@ChrisMarotola as I said before, traditional spirituality as practiced by most is a cult. You are compelled to do things under a threat of some kind as you have already illustrated. In that respect it operates much like the cults of organised religion which compel you to righteousness under the threat of hellfire or eternal damnation or excommunication or...or...etc.
True spirituality however is a deeply personal experience and is not regulated by tradition or doctrine.
Keep in mind that every culture is in fact a cult. And just because something is a cult doesn't mean that it's actually evil by the way
1.1 The different spiritual practices by different groups is only a matter of interpretation by those groups. It is much like a programming language, no matter how different from the next, how different the GUI might even be, the outcome remains the same...if it's a phone it'll make calls, Mac/windows produces docs, PLC's IBM or Siemens... same purpose.
Therefore, Tswana or Ndebele or any other practice or choice of customs...all practice spirituality... recognise the oneness of all.
Absolutely, well explained
The name Africa it self was given to us by Europeans and the fact that people are justify their sinful life by so called African spirituality!
perfectly said, 100%
😂😂😂😂 clothed of the white man😂😂😂snuff, oh Lord Jesus, please help us.
Snuff of America, it’s giving in African spirituality 😂😂😂
What camera/phone did you use?
It’s an iPhone 15 pro, the cinematic mode on the camera
Is it good?
Hallelujah 😂 Glory to Jesus Christ, the Only true Son of God. Thank you. Also do touch on the 3rd eye stories, does God want us to use crystal stones, to cleanse😢
Great suggestion! Will do
🙌🙌🙌🙌yoh, my brother 😂
Lols 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
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Amen 🙌🏼🙌🏼
I think that there was a form of religious belief before colonialism. It’s documented by the colonists in history. But many aspects of African spirituality evolved from a response to the missionary work of Christianity from Europeans. Missionary work was a massive part of Europeans settling in Africa
You very right, a religious belief, not the term “African spirituality” this term specifically was a reaction to colonialism connotations attached to African religion as missionaries deemed it pagan
@@ChrisMarotola it seems you're sidestepping the main issue. Your video focused on the practice, using 'African Spirituality' as a related concept. As someone else noted, this video highlights your knowledge gaps, making it a laughable display.
@@obaobirin3608It was never a monolithic entity. Each tribe had their own spirituality. The Maasai of Kenya don't believe in Ancestors or After life. The Zulus don't have God concept but rather a first ancestor. The Fon says God is both Male and Female and the Yoruba say God is Male. There were religions but not a Religion. Point of the video is to debunk the idea of a monolithic spirituality for all Africans. And even critique various concepts in the modern idea of African Spirituality.
kindly point them out, give me something tangible to work on, otherwise, you havent said anything rational, whats your counter argument enklerk, you sound like a dog that barks in the yard only, come out and couter argue, patiently waiting, and if you willing, lets host a skype or zoom call and talk this,
2. Ancestral veneration is a universal concept just as spiritually IS a universal concept. African spirituality therefore is nothing more than spirituality by Africans. There is no special spirituality. There are however groups that have better definitions for spiritual concepts and others who have other more occult expressions of the same
There I agree
Love this bafo.
Awesome, thanks bro
1. African spirituality is not a reaction to colonialism. Ubuntu is the embodiment of what you refer to as African spirituality, it's never been called African spirituality until the adoption of the English language through colonialism.
I hear your point
Look, every tribe or race has a way of their living, they also have the spiritual way of doing things, and that’s their religion, and religion can be so much intertwined with culture that at the end, you can’t tell the difference between the two,
Now my point is, there was a concept of spirituality within our different tribes, which is religion, the colonizers called it African religion, to an extent that they labeled it pagan,
The early theologians surely after democracy and all, wanted to shift away from the colonial connotations attached to the African religion as pagan, then became or was then called “African spirituality”
Resulting to my point that, the concept of African spirituality (this terminology especially of “African spirituality” is a reaction to colonialism,
If we continued to call it African religion, this specific terminology, then I wouldn’t say it’s a reaction to colonialism, because vele fundamentally, it is a religion, we have Yoruba religion, Xhosa religion, Chinese religion, Indians and all
And if African spiritually is true, then European spiritually should also be thing. The implication is that we live in a moral relative world where colonialism is not obctectively immoral but its a practice of European spirituality. The concept of African spirituality falls up in so many ways
@@livhuwanimashao9804 perfectly said, profound, if I might do a second video on this theme, I will definitely add that point🙌🏼🙌🏼
Do you question Christianity as much as you question the belief of your own people
@@Siboniso-t5m honestly I do, it was questions that led me to Jesus Christ,
Questions like why do we need Jesus Christ if we traditional healers who are able to see in the spirit, while we have ancestors to bless and help, but in my quest, I realized Jesus was superior above them all
I don't think u understand the concept of" God" thats why u refer to him as a man.
help us understand the concept of God, and which God to be specific, from which perspective of religion do you come from, African religions, Islam, atheism religion, or Christianity(which i doubt)
Hi Chris, what is God's name in isiZulu. I mean the one true Jehovah?
Blessings, we don’t have a name of God in isiZulu or any other language, basically, we have unkulunkulu which generally means God
But if you know the creation myths of isiZulu then you realize that “unkulunkulu” is the great great grandfather, the first man that came out of bees of reeds, then you imvelinqangi who came out of darkness to create the world, resulting to unkulunkulu being the first man
So we don’t have the name of true Jehovah as in the Bible,
We have transliteration of Jesus to uJeso, God (in general) to unkulunkulu
Jehovah to uJehova
Because the name of God in Hebrew is Yahweh, you can transliterate that to uYawe 😇, what do you think
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Check out this video where I talked about African creation myths
@@ChrisMarotola Thanks for responding! I heard Bisrat mention it the other day, but he had to move to another point.
So, if logic applies, uNkulunkulu could easily be younger or within the lineage of Adam?
If uMvelingqangi is actually God because he created the world. So He's the guy in the Bible who says: "let there be ABC"? So uMvelingqangi "created" uNkulunkulu? If he was the first man, is then a generation before Adam or possibly Adam himself?
Are we missing a book before Genesis in the Bible? At least the Zulu translation 🤣🤣🤣
@@MissCombs1511 okay cool, but are you answered?
@@ChrisMarotola May I spend a bit more time with it? I mean it's bedtime and I have to pray and I don't know what to call Him 🤣🤣🤣 You see my dilemma?
The ancient Egyptians wrote about a tribe that came from Israel called the Hyksos but this tribe was cast out for worshipping an evil god it is strange for me to understand why your god had to kill innocent babies in Egypt just to get Moses out Moses is not a Hebrew name it's Egyptian he was raised in the palace from an infant age Ramases Atmoses
@@Siboniso-t5m correct, Moses is an Egyptian name, I understand different perspectives to the plagues, and thru the plagues it was when the Egyptians experienced the Hebrew God, but the plagues weren’t truly against the people, but against the gods of Egypt, the problem is, when my God overpowers your god, you will definitely see mine as evil, how many signs did Yahweh have to perform to convince pharaoh of the time to let his people go, Yahweh gave this guy a chance but he kept on hardening his own heart till Yahweh hardened it for real
But let’s personalize it to you, someone is holding your children hostage, he’s abusing them in all kinds of abuses, you firstly speak with him in a civil way to let you children go, but he hardens his heart and punishes your children even more after your request, you come and do magic tricks, turning rodent snake, river to blood, swamp of frogs, locust but this guy denies and punishes your children even more, and keep in mind, all the 8 plagues were civil ones, no harm to the people, as an ultimatum, what would you have done to such an individual, keep in mind, this is not really about him but his gods, all the 10 plagues are judgments against each god of Egypt
What's your point vele?
I’m all about Facts that destroy African spirituality, pointing to the greater person, Jesus Christ on a broader context, to be superior above all
The truth is not what you hear from outside, but tge truth is within bro. Everything you have said is just from outside because you are too absorbing instead of affecting.
There is nothing called "African Religion".
There is nothing we can do when one's ancestors are attacked by their own child.Who are we to direct your soul....?
“Oh what a shame when a black child speaks against the ancestors”🫢🙂↕️
You realize you haven’t said anything rational right, instead of focusing on what I have said and come with a counter argument, you talk about your feelings being hurt when one within speaks against, isn’t true what I am saying, don’t think I’m incorrect, then give your counter argument, unless this was your opening statement,
Great Scholars, and theologians acknowledge there’s African religion, every group of people or tribe have a religion,
Europeans have a religion, Chinese have a religion,
Lemme help you
Religion is defines as a holistic system of beliefs, practices, rituals that connect individuals and communities with the spiritual realm, ancestors and natural world and moral values that are centered around a deity or deities
You have very surface-level knowledge of the subject you are attempting to debunk. Half-truths are inherently dangerous. "Study to show yourself approved". The entire African continent does NOT start and end with your limited knowledge of South African practice. If you have no concrete in-depth knowledge, go learn and stop misleading your audience.
You do realize you haven’t said any thing ? Right??
@@ChrisMarotolahonestly go and ready. This is embarassing from an intellectual perspective
@ChrisMarotola Lazy clapback from a wannabe analyst. I already replied under another comment where you were trying to divert attention from the main topic. Stop embarrassing the Christ you claim to represent. Read up.
you mean this comment "it seems you're sidestepping the main issue. Your video focused on the practice, using 'African Spirituality' as a related concept. As someone else noted, this video highlights your knowledge gaps, making it a laughable display."
it still doesn't say anything, please move your tail between your legs and lets get it on, I'm asking for a counter argument to atleast one of the points I have mentioned
be rational,
if you claim to have intellectual perspective, please for the love of God, counter argue me
Wake up!
@@claudinovarela8028 who
It seems as though comments that don't line up with your beliefs mysteriously vanish...no matter...
Allow me to point out a few things you might be overlooking.
Following the logic of your favourite book at Romans 8 11 you must accept that within you, yes you, resides the same spirit that resurrected Jesus Christ... meaning that in all man...even your ancestors.
That being so, and firmly established by Jesus at Luke referencing Psalm 82 v 6... you are a god...just like your ancestors...and no not God...god... because within you is the essence of God...the spirit of God.
All mankind is animated by the same spirit except that through religion the powers that be have monopolized the concept of the Christ...in order to hold you captive...by capturing you alive like a fish ( I will make you fishers of men...)
Your body is held captive through religion and your belief that you are good for nothing (total depravity) allows your mind to accept the lie that within you there is no spirit of God.
If Bible butchering was a comment, it would be this comment,
Context bro, context, Rom 8:11, is for Christian believers who personally welcome the Holy Spirit upon themselves, if you’re not a Christian, then you and I don’t carry the same spirit
So that spirit, is for true Christian’s who have fully given their lives to Jesus
Psalm 82:6
Was addressed to ancient Israelite judges and magistrates, emphasizing their divine appointment and responsibility to uphold God’s justice
This line doesn’t suggest humans are ontologically equal to God or posses inherent divinity
Rather “you are gods(elohim in Hebrew)”
Highlights stewardship of God’s justice and accountability
The context in Psalm 82 address judges, not all general folks
And the Hebrew word elohim, means divine authority, not inherent divinity.
If religion holds you captive, was Jesus Christ also held captive, because He was religious, He attended and followed all Jewish laws and festivals, with a higher perspective, that’s only for religious folks,
So, was Jesus religious?
@@ChrisMarotola Respectfully, you are wrong. If you were correct or your statements true you would have quoted a scripture in which the bible expressly stated such logic.
But to be fair to you, that is the whole point of theology, to wiggle out of logic and reason.
Where does Jesus or the bible specify these technicalities?
@@ChrisMarotola Again, expectedly, you make the assumption that the bible is the word of God. Not only that but you are also reading into the text thoughts that are not explicitly stated. There's a word for that.
@@ChrisMarotola Isaiah 64:6 King James Version (KJV)But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
There is no easy way to reach you or anyone for that matter...so don't stress about it, you will think better one day.
You may be like a filthy rag but I know that I'm not.
@@ChrisMarotola you know what, the funny thing is that you hold the belief that you are made in the image of God and you recognise that because God is Spirit your likeness to Him/Her cannot be physical rather it must be spiritual. You know this about all mankind, yet you don't understand that the scripture applies to all mankind because all are made in the likeness of God.
You insist on doctrinal statements that make no sense while the scriptures are painfully clear.
So sad. An African with a colonial mindset. Oh well.
Ncwooo!! askies i’ve hurt your feelings,
Tell me, what’s colonial mindset
@@asaiahhanif-saeed5167 The colonial mindset is characterised by the wholesale adoption of an oppressor's belief system whose purpose is to destroy the culture of the colonised to the point where the colonised see themselves in the foreign and oppressive culture forced upon them.
Basically seeing reality through the lens of the culture responsible for the destruction of your own.