From listening to the guitar master tracks, I really narrowed it down to two main guitar tones from that album. The compressed clean tone which you hear on Apache Rose Peacock, Righteous and the Wicked, and similar songs, and then a slightly broken up tone that you hear on Give It Away or BSSM. My method to achieve both of those tones in the same session is to have my Golden Plexi at the end of the chain with just a hint of grit on it like you normally do, and simultaneously have my compressor right after my guitar and then engage one or the other depending on what song I'm playing. To get around the volume boost of the DS2 with the compressor, I have the settings all at noon except for the tone which is around 2 o'clock. This will give you that really raunchy distortion tone that you hear in BSSM as opposed to John's typical fuzzy smooth distortion tone. And the best part is it still works good even if you're using the Golden Plexi and kick it in.
When I heard that clean tone with the compressor I knew immediately that this pedal had to be mine. Amazing work man, really useful, thanks and keep rocking!!
Sounds absolutely bang on to me, been meaning to get a compression pedal for ages and I got one straight after watching this. What a difference, that really full funky sound John has in this album is just so gorgeous.
sir psycho is just too perfect, sounds as if you took the official tape recording and slapped a layer of polish and glitter on it its absolutely magnificent, hats off!
Been waiting so long for a proper Under the Bridge cover and that was amazing. Thanks for the amazing stuff, Dave!!!! 13:25 for anyone interested Also Soul to Squeeze at 16:02 All the songs were spot on tone and playing
He didn’t even hit the b string with the root notes at the beginning of each chord change... it’s decent at best. It’s unfair because I’ve spent too many years obsessed with frusciantes playing, so something like this sounds just as far off as everyone else whose name isn’t John frusciante.
Nick Bottorf also he played it good no need to criticize music. This is a tone video after all, and he’s done it perfectly. His playing is fantastic ask well. Love ya Dave!
A lot of Johns tone is in his fingers and his dynamic attack you can see him playing with his knobs and pick up toggles while he’s playing even mid song
You have the tone, don’t stress! The studio and mastering processing and mixing , recording to tape, etc are also part of the tone , so no need to stress, great job!
John got his compression from cranking his amps and the MXR dyna comp pedal, obviously you can't crank your amp(s) with neighbors and just the loudness in general, but you have a great compression sound with that pedal, Great job Dave!!! love the video, so damn close!!!!! Edit: I think Soul to Squeeze, Power of Equality and Funky Monks are the closest tones so far!!
This is sooooo good Dave, thank you so very much. For all of us out there struggling to get To even 5% to where you are, this is an invaluable video. The Under The Bridge and Soul To Squeeze sequence is just absolutely awesome 👊🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
Don't be stressed chasing others sounds Dave (appreciated though your efforts are). What I - and am sure others - like best is when you are being yourself and making your own sounds. The how too's are excellent but your jam's are brilliant and what now make your guitar channel the best on UA-cam.
Yeah I like it when you play anything! I don't see too many UA-camrs play with as much feeling as you do and that is what music is all about. Credit where credit is due my friend. Just keep doing your thing and never stop being yourself.
Dave, I found out something, that John said about his equipment on Blood Sugar Sex Magik: "I like to keep things simple. Those MESA/Boogie amps were too hard for me to understand. For most of the basics, I used two Marshalls: a guitar head for edge and a bass head for punch and low end. I split the signal with a DOD stereo chorus pedal."
Dave Simpson listen to the isolated tracks on UA-cam. When you listen to suck my kiss you can definitely hear a stereo Leslie type sound throughout. I think it is the fx65 through these two amps.
The WH10 sounds weird because the compressor is put after in the signal chain. I built a Frusciante rig based on your wisdom and only difference is that the compressor is put after the DS-2. Goes like this : Guitar/DS-2/Compressor/MicroAmp/WH10/Jackhammer/DL4/PastFx Chorus Ensemble Deluxe/Amp. Sounds amazing! (Ps : micro amp is set at noon and is not used as a boost but for 2nd stage overdrive in combination with the Jackhammer which is always on. Pretty sure John uses it to make his sound dirtier as well and not as a "boost"). Thanks Dave! I'm a fan :-)
Oh and just to geek out some more, only reason I put the compressor after the DS-2 (and not directly after the guitar) is that the DS-2 is all maxed out and act more like a fuzz than a distortion. (Meaning that it needs to be the first thing that gets the sound out of the guitar, like you would with a Fuzzface or Tone bender.) Okay enough indulging. (Used to sing in a Chili Peppers tribute for years so...I probably care too much! 😄) Cheers mate!
How would you set the jackhammer to run both the compressor and the jackhammer at the same time? I'm running a clean setup on my amp but I can't run both pedals at the same time with Dave's setup
When i was younger i loved building up old fords, and there was a quite corner of the internet called oddkidd creations, it was/is a goldmine of information. This channel reminds me of that so much haha.
This sounds so damn close! well done, your efforts paid off! You ever tried replicating the tone of some of the songs on Frusciante's first solo album Niandra LaDes and Usually Just a T-Shirt (Most of the album is acoustic and some of the guitars are played backwards, but the electric guitar tone on My Smile Is A Rifle, Ten To Butter Blood Voodoo and most of the untitled songs are really cool sounding.) Such a strange and unique tone on some of the songs, however i feel you could definitely nail it! Keep up the good work Dave, love your vids!
John used a mini cassette/tape recorder (google 4-track recorder from 90s) to record Niandra Lades. I’m assuming he used a mic that you plug into the machine to record vocals/acoustic guitar, but he recorded his guitar straight into the recorder. It gives you a really clean compressed sound and if you crank the input gain on the machine that’s how you get those squishy fuzzy/overdriven sounds
Man, you are at other level with this videos! I love them! So damn insane! I've already told you, I'm your fan since the first video I've seen from you...
I think it is a manic search if perfection is the desired outcome. The studio being a haunted house in Laurel Canyon where Chad refused to sleep for fear of the connection with Harry Houdini’s ghost looking for his widow... 💀 Your tones sound great. The analysis is half the fun. But never duplicated - only approximated. Then approximated again and differently the next time you plug in. Your under the bridge had an awesome vibe... please do I could have lied (non acoustic) - I know you keep that one in reserve but it will be an epic sharing. favourite from the album. I love the live version(s) - just guitar, amp(s), and distortion solos - working his distortion feedback with the wah. The whole board is chorus, wah, phase, fz3, DS2... and that’s the pedalboard for me of that era. His amps are mega cranked. Defn a compressor helps get the jump... but not for those live solo’s. ua-cam.com/video/EzdZjusCYaM/v-deo.html
Jeremy Hamilton I totally agree with you! That is how I set my amp and pedal chain when jamming Rhcp I'm so lucky that I have the silver jubilee , a 64 strat, some other strats with ssl-1's and the same pedals
Jonas Jørgensen - for sure. The jubilee is great amp and JF prob had a hand in selling more of them than even Jim Marshall himself. I have a 2553 but currently run the Mini Jub in stereo with the Marshall 2061x. Pedals was becoming a sickness. Now I prescribe to fewer pedals the better. I chose to believe Frusciante - if he stayed active - would have come full circle now back to minimal pedals from his Stadium days of pedal madness.
Amazing job! As frustrating as this may have been for you, your love for music; especially John Frusciante's, clearly shines through and is an inspiration to not only focus on tone, but also energy and feel. I don't think even the man himself would be able to recreate exactly what was recorded from this era or perhaps would want to. I wish I was in the room when he recorded that could have lied solo though; I have been trying to recreate what he played since 1992!
I remember reading an interview with John and he said that for soul to squeeze he played the strings as hard as he could althought it seems to be a softer song
Dave you nailed the under bridge and soul to squeeze tone!!! this video inspired me to go get a compressor! I got the boss CS3. thanks so much for the vids dave - you’re one of my favourite guitarists/youtubers. Never stop!
dave, watching you play during this video was therapeutic. just so great! I can't tell you how much I loved listening to you play here. your playing is so inspirational. I think youre at like 90% :)
People have told me John also used 1176 studio compressors for that squish/pop tone. I like using a Boss CS-1 for that, as it really does the squish well for his soloing tones. You can really hear that sound on Niandra Lades.
There are guitar multitracks somewhere on youtube, where you can hear how it was done. What struck me is that there's very little gain in most of the songs and tonnes of compression on the way into the tape. Also the tone is fairly thin and bright, i would imagine that if you were in the room with the amp , it would take your head off.
Also Dave, what you said about the overdubbed guitar notes in Under the Bridge, it's true, i'm pretty sure he might've explained it in an interview, but if not, you can here that he has over - dubbed it.
Hi Dave, I bought the DOD Chorus but I have a doubt for the power supply because the pedal needs to 10V DC and I have one power station with 9V and 12V outputs, so which one to use? Is better one battery?
Thanks for the video. Your use of the compressor pedal definitely recreates the guitar tone on the album - but i would argue that the compressed sound is a result of the signal chain used during the recording. BSSM was recorded via an analogue Neve desk onto 24 track tape. Both Neve desks + tape are renowned for their natural compression. Also - in post-production, it's highly likely that compression was applied for both the mix and the final masters (vinyl + CD). To my ears it sounds like John only used the compression pedal on a couple of songs (Under The Bridge intro, Sir Psycho outro). It would be cool to see you do a video specifically about the Ibanez wah at some point. I do remember reading that John has used it in both the guitar & the bass settings for specific songs. Keep up the great work man.
@@mojo-media Yeah I just skimmed through it again and either I missed it, or had mis-remembered. They're such a staple though, that it would almost be weird for them not to be used! I did notice a couple of dbx 160s though (around the 25 minute mark where Flea's in the control room).
Dave (or guys), I have a question: Which compressor is better to emulate BSSM's tone: the MXR Compressor pedal (the one that has one gain modulator) or The Marahall's Compressor? I found them not too expensive and before I adquire one, I would like to read your opinions. Anyway, Dave, nice video!
thank u for the effort you put in this video and in this "tone hunt" mission dude, I appreciate it, that's beautiful and u're helping a massive amount of john fans like me haha
Nice job, you nailed it. I think this album is top 10 all time for his guitar work .So glad John is back! The chilli peppers are so much freakin hotter with him on 🎸. No diss on the other guys. Can’t wait to hear new stuff from them!✌️new sub
Apologies Dave - recently asked if you could do a video about the Ibanez Wah & i've just realised you've already made one. Cheers! Keep up the nice work man
If you put the compressor and chorus after the Wah pedal - compressor first then Corus last in the signal chain it will fix the dynamic loss in the wah pedal and sound even closer to the album
This chorus pedal the dod fx65 has 3 versions with different typography. The oldest is one with the mark in the center, the other two, the mark is on the left, but one is Italian, like yours and the other is normal. Do you think this Italian model was used? Thank you
Dave, have you ever tried a Jacques Meistersinger chorus? I have the chance to buy one or Dod FX 65. What do you think is better for a JF (Dave Simpson, actually 😎) inspired board?
Dave i have a question.. can you create a video about mixing the californication ds2 sound ang the clean sound from bssm?? I really like the clean tone to his bssm era and i love the meaty ds2 sound from californication
Put the compressor before the DS2 and you'll get his californication DS2 distorted tone. Then you just need something like a Golden Plexi after the DS2 to control it and you should be set. Definitely does the scar tissue type tone perfectly.
I'm a year late to this but I read somewhere many years ago that they also miked up his electric guitar acoustically as he played the intro and panned it.
Yeah just the intro, I'm not sure where I read it as it was over 20 years ago but I have a feeling it was in the bssm tab book so I've never taken it as gospel.
You have a point about the 2 guitar parts. There's another video where he talks about recording 2 guitars on Dani California.This is the closest I've heard to the John sound. Good job!
Great tone for PoE. The closest I got was Hot "clean" amp->Compressor->Overdrive->Chorus. Used 3 Monkeys Amp->Keeley Compressor->Tumnus->EHX Mod 11. On the right side pushed the top end in the mix (and a bit louder) and on the left side lowered the mids and top end (slight lower volume). Sounds damn close to me.
Absolutely loved this video and best of all its inspired me to pick up my guitars and have fun playing guitar again. Can't thank you enough. Got an FX65 and an ED-1 compressor last week and have been swimming in lush BSSM guitar tones in a daze on my bedroom floor. I've always learned best by transcribing so I've bought the amazing slow downer and am getting to work on Frusciantes live solos like if you have to ask (off the map) and some live Hendrix :). Have you done a tone hunt which would cover that sort of violin like tone he has on off the map? If not that would be amazing! The harmonics in his solo tone basically cause an octave effect a lot of times. I'm going to have a play with my DS2 into my session 75 and also JCM900 but any tips would be amazing!!
Don't know if you tried this but try to use the "stereo" out on the fx65 instead of the mono one because they don't sound the same.. waiting still for part 2...
Why did you use the ed compressor over the jackhammer for your wh10 and ds2 calming . and if you had to prefer the ed or the jackhammer what would you choose for breakup
An impossible hunt. The tone is not only the result of amplifiers and guitars, it’s the result of a specific room, a specific mic with exact placement, a specific mix board, and a variety of other studio factors. The product that an album delivers will always sound way more influenced by equipment meant to capture sound than you and your guitar and your amp in your house. I mean hell, the album sounds like 1991. You can’t recreate that. You can only buy a 1958 Stratocaster and the right Marshall amps, and then you’re missing that 20% of tone that comes from recording and mixing.
He only used a dyna comp on a couple parts of a couple songs. 98% of the compression on BSSM is from outboard equipment used during the recording and mixing of the album.
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer That's really John's tone in pretty much every album they have. Californication had tons of studio compression on the guitar riffs. Same with By The Way and Stadium Arcadium. The only main difference being that during BSSM he did not have the CE-1 chorus pedal so that preamp crunch is not there.
Hey, you can see what amps and cabs he used in the Funky Monks documentary. I'll rewatch it, but you have to kinda look closely at the footage, and it's black and white (this is the same footage used for the music video for "Suck My Kiss"), but just thought I would share that. I don't really like his chorus tone at all(I am referring to John's chorus tones on BSSM. It just sounds really cheap and sterile to me. I have no idea why people find that tone good), it sounds kind of thin, so if anyone feels the same way, use a Small Clone EH and set the intensity up, and the chorus to about 10 o'clock, and it will give you a way better and rich chorus (to my ears at least). It won't be close to BSSM's tone, but why exactly copy a tone anyway? The point is that this is a jumping off point, and you can swap whatever you feel fits your needs, and then you can have a sound of your own. I think that's the point of these videos, and Dave is just trying to get it as close as he can because that's the blank canvas you work with, and then you change things according to your taste.
Hey Dave, I'm looking to build my first pedalboard and I don't quite like the DS-2's non-turbo setting. However, the turbo setting sounds better and more similar to SD-1, which I'm most likely going to buy. I love BSSM album and it's my favourite album of all time. My question is does the DS-2 sound awesome with Marshall amps or what? Every DS-2 demo out there sounds really bad. However, you made it sound really good so I'm really confused and I don't know which pedal to choose between the two.
@@thedavesimpson thank you, I've just watched it. I've decided I'm going to buy the SD-1. The reason for it is I don't have an amp which would work well with the DS-2. I guess I'm going to try the DS-2 in the future.
Did john not use the chorus for the end of Sir Pshyco? I thought I heard it on the record but I guess its a little hard to tell with all the other instruments
To think John Frusciante had only just turned 21 when he recorded all this ..... astonishing!!!
dedication to long hair, against all odds.
I remember Phil Collins singing 'against all odds' when he had this type of hair
He's clinging to scraps of a once powerful generation of hair .
I came to the comments for this, and was not disappointed.
Justin Krann and I think hed look alright if he shaved his head
@@hellcas300-6 and what a era that was!
The closest I have ever heard to the under the bridge tone... insane
Thank you. : )
@@thedavesimpson Spot on UTB tone. Well done. It's all in the fingerpicked intro. Nice touch mate.
From listening to the guitar master tracks, I really narrowed it down to two main guitar tones from that album. The compressed clean tone which you hear on Apache Rose Peacock, Righteous and the Wicked, and similar songs, and then a slightly broken up tone that you hear on Give It Away or BSSM. My method to achieve both of those tones in the same session is to have my Golden Plexi at the end of the chain with just a hint of grit on it like you normally do, and simultaneously have my compressor right after my guitar and then engage one or the other depending on what song I'm playing. To get around the volume boost of the DS2 with the compressor, I have the settings all at noon except for the tone which is around 2 o'clock. This will give you that really raunchy distortion tone that you hear in BSSM as opposed to John's typical fuzzy smooth distortion tone. And the best part is it still works good even if you're using the Golden Plexi and kick it in.
deeply in love with this soul to squeeze tone and playing, almost better then the original tone
When I heard that clean tone with the compressor I knew immediately that this pedal had to be mine. Amazing work man, really useful, thanks and keep rocking!!
Sounds absolutely bang on to me, been meaning to get a compression pedal for ages and I got one straight after watching this. What a difference, that really full funky sound John has in this album is just so gorgeous.
Oh my jesus that under the bridge tone! Amazinggggg!
Thank you. : )
sir psycho is just too perfect, sounds as if you took the official tape recording and slapped a layer of polish and glitter on it its absolutely magnificent, hats off!
Man Under the Bridge is such a beautiful song, it always blows me away
Been waiting so long for a proper Under the Bridge cover and that was amazing. Thanks for the amazing stuff, Dave!!!! 13:25 for anyone interested Also Soul to Squeeze at 16:02 All the songs were spot on tone and playing
Thank you very much. :)
He didn’t even hit the b string with the root notes at the beginning of each chord change... it’s decent at best. It’s unfair because I’ve spent too many years obsessed with frusciantes playing, so something like this sounds just as far off as everyone else whose name isn’t John frusciante.
Siddthekid there’s no “proper” way of playing guitar but yes it was good
Nick Bottorf also he played it good no need to criticize music. This is a tone video after all, and he’s done it perfectly. His playing is fantastic ask well. Love ya Dave!
@@ethan7744 True that!
A lot of Johns tone is in his fingers and his dynamic attack you can see him playing with his knobs and pick up toggles while he’s playing even mid song
Damn, now that's some SERIOUS gear packed in that little room....
Stressed? You always focus me with your obsession. You get stressed so I don't have to. Thanx man.
Thank you. : )
So glad to see someone who is an enthusiastic and into this album as i am, i salute ur dedication to the tone and johns works. nice shit man
This is such a great video!! Great job with all the tones and riffs! Glad I’m not the only one still loving this album all these years later!
I'm having my first RHCP tattoo next week... watch this makes me feel confident about it.
You have the tone, don’t stress! The studio and mastering processing and mixing , recording to tape, etc are also part of the tone , so no need to stress, great job!
Thank you very much. : )
John got his compression from cranking his amps and the MXR dyna comp pedal, obviously you can't crank your amp(s) with neighbors and just the loudness in general, but you have a great compression sound with that pedal, Great job Dave!!! love the video, so damn close!!!!! Edit: I think Soul to Squeeze, Power of Equality and Funky Monks are the closest tones so far!!
Thank you very much indeed. :)
This is sooooo good Dave, thank you so very much. For all of us out there struggling to get To even 5% to where you are, this is an invaluable video. The Under The Bridge and Soul To Squeeze sequence is just absolutely awesome 👊🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
Thank you very much indeed. : )
I've bought ED1 Compressor after seeing your recommendation, and all I can say it's thank you, it's great.
Don't be stressed chasing others sounds Dave (appreciated though your efforts are). What I - and am sure others - like best is when you are being yourself and making your own sounds. The how too's are excellent but your jam's are brilliant and what now make your guitar channel the best on UA-cam.
Thank you very much indeed. : )
Yeah I like it when you play anything! I don't see too many UA-camrs play with as much feeling as you do and that is what music is all about. Credit where credit is due my friend. Just keep doing your thing and never stop being yourself.
@@williampacult9431 Exactly.
I wonder how many dudes will come out of quarantine like this ^^
Dave, I found out something, that John said about his equipment on Blood Sugar Sex Magik: "I like to keep things simple. Those MESA/Boogie amps were too hard for me to understand. For most of the basics, I used two Marshalls: a guitar head for edge and a bass head for punch and low end. I split the signal with a DOD stereo chorus pedal."
AWESOME. Thank you very much indeed. : )
Dave Simpson listen to the isolated tracks on UA-cam. When you listen to suck my kiss you can definitely hear a stereo Leslie type sound throughout. I think it is the fx65 through these two amps.
The WH10 sounds weird because the compressor is put after in the signal chain. I built a Frusciante rig based on your wisdom and only difference is that the compressor is put after the DS-2. Goes like this : Guitar/DS-2/Compressor/MicroAmp/WH10/Jackhammer/DL4/PastFx Chorus Ensemble Deluxe/Amp. Sounds amazing! (Ps : micro amp is set at noon and is not used as a boost but for 2nd stage overdrive in combination with the Jackhammer which is always on. Pretty sure John uses it to make his sound dirtier as well and not as a "boost"). Thanks Dave! I'm a fan :-)
Oh and just to geek out some more, only reason I put the compressor after the DS-2 (and not directly after the guitar) is that the DS-2 is all maxed out and act more like a fuzz than a distortion. (Meaning that it needs to be the first thing that gets the sound out of the guitar, like you would with a Fuzzface or Tone bender.) Okay enough indulging. (Used to sing in a Chili Peppers tribute for years so...I probably care too much! 😄) Cheers mate!
How would you set the jackhammer to run both the compressor and the jackhammer at the same time? I'm running a clean setup on my amp but I can't run both pedals at the same time with Dave's setup
When i was younger i loved building up old fords, and there was a quite corner of the internet called oddkidd creations, it was/is
a goldmine of information.
This channel reminds me of that so much haha.
:)
This sounds so damn close! well done, your efforts paid off! You ever tried replicating the tone of some of the songs on Frusciante's first solo album Niandra LaDes and Usually Just a T-Shirt (Most of the album is acoustic and some of the guitars are played backwards, but the electric guitar tone on My Smile Is A Rifle, Ten To Butter Blood Voodoo and most of the untitled songs are really cool sounding.) Such a strange and unique tone on some of the songs, however i feel you could definitely nail it! Keep up the good work Dave, love your vids!
Yes please
John used a mini cassette/tape recorder (google 4-track recorder from 90s) to record Niandra Lades. I’m assuming he used a mic that you plug into the machine to record vocals/acoustic guitar, but he recorded his guitar straight into the recorder. It gives you a really clean compressed sound and if you crank the input gain on the machine that’s how you get those squishy fuzzy/overdriven sounds
Thank you very much and I would love to give that a go at some point. : )
That Marshall Compressor pedal sounds great! Really thick, aggressive, and meaty!
Man, you are at other level with this videos! I love them! So damn insane! I've already told you, I'm your fan since the first video I've seen from you...
I think it is a manic search if perfection is the desired outcome. The studio being a haunted house in Laurel Canyon where Chad refused to sleep for fear of the connection with Harry Houdini’s ghost looking for his widow... 💀
Your tones sound great. The analysis is half the fun. But never duplicated - only approximated. Then approximated again and differently the next time you plug in.
Your under the bridge had an awesome vibe... please do I could have lied (non acoustic) - I know you keep that one in reserve but it will be an epic sharing. favourite from the album.
I love the live version(s) - just guitar, amp(s), and distortion solos - working his distortion feedback with the wah. The whole board is chorus, wah, phase, fz3, DS2... and that’s the pedalboard for me of that era. His amps are mega cranked. Defn a compressor helps get the jump... but not for those live solo’s.
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Jeremy Hamilton I totally agree with you! That is how I set my amp and pedal chain when jamming Rhcp
I'm so lucky that I have the silver jubilee , a 64 strat, some other strats with ssl-1's and the same pedals
Jonas Jørgensen - for sure. The jubilee is great amp and JF prob had a hand in selling more of them than even Jim Marshall himself.
I have a 2553 but currently run the Mini Jub in stereo with the Marshall 2061x.
Pedals was becoming a sickness.
Now I prescribe to fewer pedals the better.
I chose to believe Frusciante - if he stayed active - would have come full circle now back to minimal pedals from his Stadium days of pedal madness.
The more I listen to your videos with Mr White the more I’m convinced the Tex mex pickups are the “stock fender” pickups Dave Lee put in Johns strat
I love this video. I listen to it on my way to work. It sounds amazing!
Amazing job! As frustrating as this may have been for you, your love for music; especially John Frusciante's, clearly shines through and is an inspiration to not only focus on tone, but also energy and feel. I don't think even the man himself would be able to recreate exactly what was recorded from this era or perhaps would want to. I wish I was in the room when he recorded that could have lied solo though; I have been trying to recreate what he played since 1992!
Thank you very much indeed. : )
I wish I was in that room too
I remember reading an interview with John and he said that for soul to squeeze he played the strings as hard as he could althought it seems to be a softer song
Also you have to remember Rick Ruben used rack compressors in post, which is why it's so difficult to nail down.
Dave you nailed the under bridge and soul to squeeze tone!!! this video inspired me to go get a compressor! I got the boss CS3. thanks so much for the vids dave - you’re one of my favourite guitarists/youtubers. Never stop!
dave, watching you play during this video was therapeutic. just so great! I can't tell you how much I loved listening to you play here. your playing is so inspirational. I think youre at like 90% :)
I already cheered when I read the title of the video. Thanks Dave!
Thank you. : )
I like the MXR microamp pedal. Flea and John both use it. I can’t stand my clean tone without it.
Well done buddy! A noble quest for some of the best tones ever committed to tape. You’ve got closer than most :)
Thank you very much. : )
You absolutely nailed that under the bridge Tone Dave!
Thank you very much indeed. : )
I tried to push the “👍” button, but it had been already done.
People have told me John also used 1176 studio compressors for that squish/pop tone. I like using a Boss CS-1 for that, as it really does the squish well for his soloing tones. You can really hear that sound on Niandra Lades.
Its veryyy close, im impressed how the compressor enhance well the sound at the beginning
Thank you very much. : )
I know my one vote in a sea of 1k doesn't mean much, but this is great.
Good job. The Edward comp sounds great with the Strat & MG sparkle. It adds punch to the sparkle. I used to own that pedal. It's a really smooth comp.
Thank you. : )
There are guitar multitracks somewhere on youtube, where you can hear how it was done. What struck me is that there's very little gain in most of the songs and tonnes of compression on the way into the tape. Also the tone is fairly thin and bright, i would imagine that if you were in the room with the amp , it would take your head off.
Also Dave, what you said about the overdubbed guitar notes in Under the Bridge, it's true, i'm pretty sure he might've explained it in an interview, but if not, you can here that he has over - dubbed it.
Man! It’s a chain of slaps that we take with this compressor !
Of all the videos on UA-cam, Dave's intro "helllllloooooooo.....etc" makes me laugh the most! Hilarious every time 😂
I still can't believe that you have stock classic series 60s pickups in Mr.White. 👍🏻
Of the map It's the best version of this song, Great Tone!
Hi Dave, I bought the DOD Chorus but I have a doubt for the power supply because the pedal needs to 10V DC and I have one power station with 9V and 12V outputs, so which one to use? Is better one battery?
Under the Bridge.... Really amazing tone.
dave u may have to make lessons for every john frusciante song eventually. u have already taught me so much as i continue to learn guitar. thank u
Thanks for the video. Your use of the compressor pedal definitely recreates the guitar tone on the album - but i would argue that the compressed sound is a result of the signal chain used during the recording. BSSM was recorded via an analogue Neve desk onto 24 track tape. Both Neve desks + tape are renowned for their natural compression. Also - in post-production, it's highly likely that compression was applied for both the mix and the final masters (vinyl + CD). To my ears it sounds like John only used the compression pedal on a couple of songs (Under The Bridge intro, Sir Psycho outro). It would be cool to see you do a video specifically about the Ibanez wah at some point. I do remember reading that John has used it in both the guitar & the bass settings for specific songs. Keep up the great work man.
I seem to remember seeing a stack of UREI 1176 compressors in the background in the Funky Monks doco.
@@prodigalretrod Cool i rewatch it & look out for them. Seems like the whole set-up was proper old school pure analogue
@@mojo-media Yeah I just skimmed through it again and either I missed it, or had mis-remembered. They're such a staple though, that it would almost be weird for them not to be used! I did notice a couple of dbx 160s though (around the 25 minute mark where Flea's in the control room).
@@prodigalretrod OK cool, thanks for heads up!
Dave (or guys), I have a question: Which compressor is better to emulate BSSM's tone: the MXR Compressor pedal (the one that has one gain modulator) or The Marahall's Compressor? I found them not too expensive and before I adquire one, I would like to read your opinions. Anyway, Dave, nice video!
Thank you for watching and I have always loved the Marshall Comp myself. I've tried a few others but always come back to the Marshall. : )
Soul to squeeze is amazing!!!! Great job!
thank u for the effort you put in this video and in this "tone hunt" mission dude, I appreciate it, that's beautiful and u're helping a massive amount of john fans like me haha
Amazing work! Just curious, what do you mean by “album tone”?
Missing the Dyna Comp. I have the Silver Jubilee with vintage 30s cab. Once I plugged the Dyna Comp in. It was like that’s it that’s the tone.
Great video, lots of insight for me: an advanced beginner. Also cheers for just being a genuine person! 🍻
Sounds very close to me.
Thank you very much. : )
Nice job, you nailed it. I think this album is top 10 all time for his guitar work .So glad John is back! The chilli peppers are so much freakin hotter with him on 🎸. No diss on the other guys. Can’t wait to hear new stuff from them!✌️new sub
Thank you very much. : )
You’re the man Dave!!! Always love revisiting your videos
Hi Dave, thank you for all the JF tone videos, that is very helpful for me. I really appreciate that
Apologies Dave - recently asked if you could do a video about the Ibanez Wah & i've just realised you've already made one. Cheers! Keep up the nice work man
The captain meets Dave Simpson ?! It needs to happen lol. Great vid Dave !
If only. Thank you for watching. : )
If you put the compressor and chorus after the Wah pedal - compressor first then Corus last in the signal chain it will fix the dynamic loss in the wah pedal and sound even closer to the album
The Power of equality, soul to squeeze and under the bridge sound 110% Dave. That chorus sounds amazing, I wonder why he switched to the CE-1
Thank you very much.
His CE1 was broken when they started to record BSSM and he got the DOD and just loved it.
But not as much as the CE1. : )
its as close as it needs to be. great work, great playing
It sounds insane! My friend you did a great job.
This chorus pedal the dod fx65 has 3 versions with different typography. The oldest is one with the mark in the center, the other two, the mark is on the left, but one is Italian, like yours and the other is normal. Do you think this Italian model was used?
Thank you
Dave, have you ever tried a Jacques Meistersinger chorus? I have the chance to buy one or Dod FX 65. What do you think is better for a JF (Dave Simpson, actually 😎) inspired board?
I haven't no. Sorry.
soul to squeeze, yes. under the bridge, yes
Got my DOD FX 65 for $30 on Ebay. Still can't believe it.
Dave i have a question.. can you create a video about mixing the californication ds2 sound ang the clean sound from bssm?? I really like the clean tone to his bssm era and i love the meaty ds2 sound from californication
I'll see what I can do. :)
Put the compressor before the DS2 and you'll get his californication DS2 distorted tone. Then you just need something like a Golden Plexi after the DS2 to control it and you should be set. Definitely does the scar tissue type tone perfectly.
Excellent! Would love to hear under the bridge lesson. You play it so well! Thank you.
I'm a year late to this but I read somewhere many years ago that they also miked up his electric guitar acoustically as he played the intro and panned it.
For which, Under The Bridge?
Yeah just the intro, I'm not sure where I read it as it was over 20 years ago but I have a feeling it was in the bssm tab book so I've never taken it as gospel.
You have a point about the 2 guitar parts. There's another video where he talks about recording 2 guitars on Dani California.This is the closest I've heard to the John sound. Good job!
Thank you. : )
Great tone for PoE. The closest I got was Hot "clean" amp->Compressor->Overdrive->Chorus. Used 3 Monkeys Amp->Keeley Compressor->Tumnus->EHX Mod 11. On the right side pushed the top end in the mix (and a bit louder) and on the left side lowered the mids and top end (slight lower volume). Sounds damn close to me.
Absolutely loved this video and best of all its inspired me to pick up my guitars and have fun playing guitar again. Can't thank you enough. Got an FX65 and an ED-1 compressor last week and have been swimming in lush BSSM guitar tones in a daze on my bedroom floor. I've always learned best by transcribing so I've bought the amazing slow downer and am getting to work on Frusciantes live solos like if you have to ask (off the map) and some live Hendrix :). Have you done a tone hunt which would cover that sort of violin like tone he has on off the map? If not that would be amazing! The harmonics in his solo tone basically cause an octave effect a lot of times. I'm going to have a play with my DS2 into my session 75 and also JCM900 but any tips would be amazing!!
Thank you very much and so happy the video made you pick up your guitar. :)
Don't know if you tried this but try to use the "stereo" out on the fx65 instead of the mono one because they don't sound the same.. waiting still for part 2...
what a great performance .. you nailed it, under the bridge was exactly like john's one
No use of the ce-1 back then?🤔 Love the dod chorus tho!!
It was broken when they recorded BSSM. John used the dod instead.
@@thedavesimpson thanks for the answer! :D
Why did you use the ed compressor over the jackhammer for your wh10 and ds2 calming . and if you had to prefer the ed or the jackhammer what would you choose for breakup
I used Ed because John used a compressor for the album more than cranking the amp but the sounds of it. I still prefer the Jackhammer personally. :)
Yes!!
BSSM tones are my fave
Keep up the great tunes
Peace
Thank you. : )
Excellent dave you just get better amazing
An impossible hunt. The tone is not only the result of amplifiers and guitars, it’s the result of a specific room, a specific mic with exact placement, a specific mix board, and a variety of other studio factors. The product that an album delivers will always sound way more influenced by equipment meant to capture sound than you and your guitar and your amp in your house. I mean hell, the album sounds like 1991. You can’t recreate that. You can only buy a 1958 Stratocaster and the right Marshall amps, and then you’re missing that 20% of tone that comes from recording and mixing.
John's tone in BSSM is clean and it's from the compressor pedal
He only used a dyna comp on a couple parts of a couple songs. 98% of the compression on BSSM is from outboard equipment used during the recording and mixing of the album.
Here, this breaks down everything he used, where, when etc ua-cam.com/video/99leha8IR1w/v-deo.html
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer That's really John's tone in pretty much every album they have. Californication had tons of studio compression on the guitar riffs. Same with By The Way and Stadium Arcadium. The only main difference being that during BSSM he did not have the CE-1 chorus pedal so that preamp crunch is not there.
Really enjoyed this mate, thank you!
Hi Dave. Maybe you can consider a full tutorial of Under the Bridge. Your tone is really great!
Hey, you can see what amps and cabs he used in the Funky Monks documentary. I'll rewatch it, but you have to kinda look closely at the footage, and it's black and white (this is the same footage used for the music video for "Suck My Kiss"), but just thought I would share that. I don't really like his chorus tone at all(I am referring to John's chorus tones on BSSM. It just sounds really cheap and sterile to me. I have no idea why people find that tone good), it sounds kind of thin, so if anyone feels the same way, use a Small Clone EH and set the intensity up, and the chorus to about 10 o'clock, and it will give you a way better and rich chorus (to my ears at least). It won't be close to BSSM's tone, but why exactly copy a tone anyway? The point is that this is a jumping off point, and you can swap whatever you feel fits your needs, and then you can have a sound of your own. I think that's the point of these videos, and Dave is just trying to get it as close as he can because that's the blank canvas you work with, and then you change things according to your taste.
THANK YOU DAVE!
Thank you. : )
how do u get away with playing loud w neighbors?? big amps...
I just an mxr dyna comp today and I like how it sounds before the distortion rather than after. Maybe it's because of my Amp?
Personal preference is everything.
Hey Dave, I'm looking to build my first pedalboard and I don't quite like the DS-2's non-turbo setting. However, the turbo setting sounds better and more similar to SD-1, which I'm most likely going to buy. I love BSSM album and it's my favourite album of all time.
My question is does the DS-2 sound awesome with Marshall amps or what? Every DS-2 demo out there sounds really bad. However, you made it sound really good so I'm really confused and I don't know which pedal to choose between the two.
The ds2 sounds very wicked with a Marshall. :) I have a video on just that pedal.
@@thedavesimpson thank you, I've just watched it. I've decided I'm going to buy the SD-1. The reason for it is I don't have an amp which would work well with the DS-2. I guess I'm going to try the DS-2 in the future.
Any thoughts about the Ibanez wh10 V3 I think my dad got it for my birthday but just wondering if you know if it’s any different
Did john not use the chorus for the end of Sir Pshyco? I thought I heard it on the record but I guess its a little hard to tell with all the other instruments
Yes he did, you can find the isolated guitar master track on the tube 👌 also sounds like it's recorded through a small practice amp...
What an amazing tone! Going to listen to the album again now
Thank you. : )