GRIM tour of former Tesco Market Hall car park Chatham

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  • Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
  • I take a detailed walk around the Market Hall car park in Chatham. Several levels, 3, 4, 5 and 6 have been closed off partly due to anti social behavior but mostly from a decline in use. Things really haven't changed and Chatham is still in decline with many larger chains leaving. Tesco, Market Hall and the Multi Storey car park were built between 1980 and 1982 and opened later in 1982. Market Hall used to have 'Market' style shops and stalls for local traders but started to decline in the 2000s. It is now a home furnishing store. Tesco closed in 2015 and in 2016, Go Outdoors took over the former Tesco store. The multi storey car park is now under the control of Medway Council.
    All the areas I visited are freely accessible to the public and shows the social deprivation in this town. Will things ever change?
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  • @orionriley5154
    @orionriley5154 5 років тому +12

    I grew up in Chatham… literally none of what you showed shocked me.
    Oh well, I guess it’ll never change as much as I hope it would.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  5 років тому +1

      If anything it's just getting worse.

    • @HarryMcTibbs
      @HarryMcTibbs 5 років тому +4

      I remember that tesco opening in 82 and it was buzzing in the day and all six floors of that car park were busy. The store itself had 32 checkouts and was very busy in the early 80,s. Gradually over time it got quieter and quieter. I went in about a year before it closed down and the checkout line had been reduced to 14 and there was only one till open. I bet tesco didn't foresee that happening to a store that size.

    • @samantharossiter8808
      @samantharossiter8808 4 роки тому +3

      morthren I was born in all saints hospital 74 I grew up in Chatham l remember the pictures and queuing up to see the latest movie and the sweet shop on the other side of the road my mum used to shop in that Tesco store I left in 2015 I’m coming back in a week for a family funeral 😢 I’ve heard from relatives Chatham has got a lot worse ☹️ especially with Debenhams closing down the High street will be a ghost town, why not shut the one in gravesend instead of Chatham??

    • @bulkins7569
      @bulkins7569 4 роки тому

      I fucking love Chatham to many characters 😂

  • @williammallon4190
    @williammallon4190 5 років тому +10

    “Go Outdoors” isn’t just The name of the establishment; it’s an instruction for the denizens of the stairwell to pee outside.

  • @battytec
    @battytec 6 років тому +20

    The fire alarm here is strange. It used to be a kentec syncro when it was tesco (before this it was possibly an old chloride gent system with all bells, as there used to be one or 2 'chloride gent' MCP's and my nan remembers there being all bells, up and down the car park). In about 2014, most of the bells, sounders and MCP's had gotten vandalised over time, they obviously replaced some stuff when they broke with banshees or roshnis (the majority of bells are still up and a few are missing their covers). There were no detectors anywhere in public sight, they used the sprinkler flow valves instead. In the store there were white roshnis and in the car park there were bells and banshees. Now I think some of the old stuff is still in use but the fire alarm in the car park comes through those PA horn speakers. The panels a kentec sigma, and in the shop the detection/sounders are strange chinese things. EDIT: that booth was from when it used to have an attendant.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +5

      It's strange that they replaced the fire alarm with a conventional panel from an addressable considering the size of the place. I doubt anything in the car park works although the lift shafts do still have detectors. I haven't had a good look around inside the Go Outdoors store because they pounce on you the moment you step in. One thing they do is hound you to sign up for a Go Outdoors membership or you have to pay the extortionate higher price. The other is you get followed around by a security guard - which is no surprise with it being Chatham! The sprinkler room has always fascinated me with the gong bells above the doors. They actually have a diesel generator too which is the door to the left of the sprinkler room. Thanks for the all the additional details and on that booth. You know a lot about this place. The booth is probably a time capsule, I'm betting that it has been left exactly as it was and the shutters just closed when they decided to close it but who knows...

    • @battytec
      @battytec 6 років тому

      Yeah. I come from around the area. My nan worked here in the late 80s till the early 90s, and my mum and aunt in the late 90s.

    • @battytec
      @battytec 6 років тому +3

      Also, another thing I forgot to mention, the doors by those old sprinkler bells used to be glass, and through one, had the red handrail from the car park. Its a mystery what go outdoors have done, as they have wasted a hell of a lot of space.

  • @callyc1633
    @callyc1633 3 роки тому +2

    I remember queuing outside the cinema in 80's and 90's Used to shop in Tesco back in the day. Good video 👌🏻

  • @rabbitraisin
    @rabbitraisin 5 років тому +12

    That disgusting cage area and car park it leads to is like something out of silent hill

  • @tommo-vc8kn
    @tommo-vc8kn 5 років тому +3

    I remember the ABC cinema, and the market hall. Not to mention Carpeaux Close, council flats with needles in the stairwells. Now demolished I believe.

  • @freewill1114
    @freewill1114 5 років тому +7

    Why did I watch this? I live in the USA!

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 5 років тому +3

    8:31 those needles and drugs paraphernalia have probably been there for a few years. Also at 9:41 is it just me or has the glass in the doors been smashed?

  • @buzzukfiftythree
    @buzzukfiftythree 6 років тому +8

    Thanks for the video. A trip down memory lane for me as, although I now live just outside Tunbridge Wells, I spent the first 50 years of my life in the Medway Towns. I remember that end of Chatham High Street well. In the 1950s and 1960s there used to be the Regent and the Ritz cinemas and a small model shop called Lecore's where you could put a penny(?) in the slot and watch a train go around in the window (I've been a model railway enthusiast ever since). Always hated the architecture of the Tesco store and car park - a real blot on the landscape. Only once went into the car park as it always felt threatening with so many alleyways (smelly) and places one could easily be mugged. A great pity that it hasn't been demolished and replaced with something more pleasing to the eye. The 1970s saw some pretty dreadful architecture in Chatham (e.g. The Pentagon).

  • @vandalsavage6152
    @vandalsavage6152 2 роки тому

    Another riveting tour....

  • @OnTheRocks71
    @OnTheRocks71 6 років тому +6

    Wow. The bars, steel cages, anti-climb paint(?!) Was there a climbing epidemic in Chatham or something?

  • @parjacpar3077
    @parjacpar3077 6 років тому +2

    It is a few years since i used that when it was Tesco
    Were is the nearest Tesco now (on A2) ?

  • @crimsontheotter
    @crimsontheotter 5 років тому +6

    Yolo there's a morrisons trolley

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 6 років тому

    Could you please put something together from your footage from Levels 3,4 & 5? By the way congratulations on 5K Subscribers.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому

      I'll try to do something soon. And thanks... I'm really surprised!

  • @mushroomcraft
    @mushroomcraft 9 місяців тому

    So grotty. Sad that the building is so disrespected. I bet if you put security cameras EVERYWHERE, it'll be good. And Beno is right, the building is super well built. Apart from some inevitable broken glass, the building is structurally in great condition.

  • @blue.light.fazbear
    @blue.light.fazbear 5 років тому +2

    Nice tour! But a very shady car park. Are you planning on exploring the abandoned part of the shop?

    • @morthren
      @morthren  5 років тому

      Thanks! I did try at the time but the upper car park doors have all been screwed shut from the outside. They've closed the shutters over the rear lift doors to the disused restaurant too ua-cam.com/video/D3KGrNkCbXM/v-deo.html

  • @pattv5515
    @pattv5515 4 роки тому

    Has the last lift been modded or switched off (That one o&k that they didn’t mod)
    also they changed that lifts buttons to DMG i don’t know if they changed the key switches
    edit: on level R i remember seeing the old o&k call buttons

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 6 років тому +9

    Nice thanks for uploading this. Is there even cameras in the lifts? Level 3 looks very spooky now.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +3

      Thanks for giving me the idea! The whole place is spooky. There are no cameras in the lifts or in the back staircase. That's probably why the druggies use it to shoot up. It's pretty grim.

    • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
      @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 6 років тому

      Did you notice the staircase in front of the 3 tower blocks?

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +1

      Do you mean the bricked up one at 3:30? The bottom one has been bricked up too. You can see it here www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3799281,0.5303681,69a,35y,47.83h,31.92t,-1.69r/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

    • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
      @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 6 років тому

      Yes. Do you have any footage of Levels 3-5 before they screwed the doors shut?

    • @EverydayEverything360
      @EverydayEverything360 Рік тому

      Yeah I saw a comment by the a user called Flappy Mappy about them seeing what was there as they'd never seen anyone else use it and it was really clean for some reason and they heard weird noises and saw a weird light (probably druggies with a torch).

  • @izzard
    @izzard 4 роки тому +1

    I shopped there a few times when it was a Tesco but it was never a very inviting store: underground with terrible lighting a weird old-fashioned vibe. I think decline was inevitable just as high street shopping has declined in general, but also because it usually involved passing through the most bleak car park I've ever known.

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 5 років тому +1

    Do you still have that footage of Levels 3, 4 & 5?

    • @morthren
      @morthren  5 років тому

      I think so. If I have, I'll put something together and send you a link

  • @UKLevelCrossingsChannel
    @UKLevelCrossingsChannel 6 років тому +11

    Wow. You're brave going there.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +4

      It is quite horrible. I was checking out The Brook car park just along from this one and this guy walked past me on the stairs barefoot! He was completely out of his head!

    • @UKLevelCrossingsChannel
      @UKLevelCrossingsChannel 6 років тому +3

      morthren Blimey. Sums it up really. Got a parking ticket once for being 3 minutes over time and being one of like twenty cars in the flipping carpark. Scummy place.

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts 6 років тому +9

      In the brook car park you somtimes get a dead person in the stairwell

    • @MMBaus
      @MMBaus 6 років тому +3

      I was about to say the same thing! That was shockingly grotty, all needles and stuff round the back staircase was horrendous! Interesting vid though 👍

    • @blue.light.fazbear
      @blue.light.fazbear 4 роки тому

      Well, lets just say, I’m never going to step foot in that car park

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 6 років тому

    May I ask do you have any footage of Levels 3,4 & 5?

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +3

      Only some stuff from a previous visit that I didn't use in my other video. I'll put something together from it

  • @officalbrandonperfect
    @officalbrandonperfect 5 років тому +1

    I wonder why level 3 is disused. Giving me the chills. I live near the area so I go there alot

    • @mushroomcraft
      @mushroomcraft 9 місяців тому

      well, it clearly became a hotspot for drugs, and it doesn't look like they needed more parking spaces

  • @MichalM
    @MichalM 6 років тому

    13:04 Is it just me or are there 2 call buttons? What company modernised the right lift? It has a completely different call button!

    • @MichalM
      @MichalM 5 років тому +1

      Right - I know the answer now - the right lift was modernised with Lester Controls. The Lift car is original but the buttons are now Lester Buttons.

  • @TomPatelGaming
    @TomPatelGaming 4 роки тому

    Go into the Go Outdoors store and see if they still haven't refurbished anything.

  • @KofelinaPL
    @KofelinaPL 5 років тому

    What about the restaurant level?

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder if anyone has managed to get past the gates without using the lifts?

    • @mushroomcraft
      @mushroomcraft 9 місяців тому

      Standard euro cylinder lock. Not that difficult to pick, and it doesn't look like people go there that often. Only risk would probably be getting locked in there

  • @ur2c8
    @ur2c8 5 років тому +1

    There is nothing wrong with change. Change is good. Change is life.

  • @ronniezzzz
    @ronniezzzz 6 років тому

    wonder why its closed off

  • @kierennelson7037
    @kierennelson7037 6 років тому +2

    Worked here when was tesco and all the levels where open. To drug use In the upper levels

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 4 роки тому

    Beno managed to find another way up to the abandoned Carpark Levels despite the doors being screwed shut.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  4 роки тому

      Yeah I saw that. It's old footage he has put together. GoOutdoors has been closed since UK lockdown on 24th of March but it is open in the video. Every lift door above car park level 2 is screwed shut, I've checked them all out, but they are open in the video. Someone had ripped the hand dryer off the wall a couple of years back but it is on the wall. It's old footage.

    • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
      @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 4 роки тому

      morthren Have you seen the video The Beno Movie? If you have then you’ll know what I’m talking about.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  4 роки тому

      @@liftrailphotographyinnz3992 I didn't watch it all, bit too long. I thought you were talking about the latest Tesco Urbex video

    • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
      @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 4 роки тому

      morthren I was talking about the Beno Movie, if you skip to 36:28 you’ll see what I’m talking about.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  4 роки тому

      @@liftrailphotographyinnz3992 Looks like he found a way up one of the ramps. The door was padlocked at the top though. It's still a dire place, nothing has changed in Chatham sadly

  • @EverydayEverything360
    @EverydayEverything360 3 роки тому

    3:30 Flappy Mappy is that the creepy surprisingly clean staircase that you'd never seen anyone use you meant?

    • @TiptoeThroughTheTwoLips
      @TiptoeThroughTheTwoLips Місяць тому

      That's it yeah! Wow! Also wow at how I randomly found this untagged comment mentioning me and that stairwell 😆

    • @EverydayEverything360
      @EverydayEverything360 Місяць тому

      @@TiptoeThroughTheTwoLips Lol I remember being obsessed with that staircase when I wrote this comment, nevertheless thanks for confirming! I'm guessing one of the fire exits on the ground floor which you can see on street view is also from that staircase

  • @liftrailphotographyinnz3992
    @liftrailphotographyinnz3992 6 років тому

    5:24 Why did they put wood over the gate?

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +1

      +Lift & Rail Photography In NZ I think to show people it's closed before they start walking up the ramp.

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому

      +Lift & Rail Photography In NZ either that or the gate has been damaged

  • @kippen64
    @kippen64 5 років тому

    I started to think that finding a body was a real possibility.

  • @davebeedon3424
    @davebeedon3424 4 роки тому

    Grim indeed.

  • @LiftSurferRYEGI
    @LiftSurferRYEGI 6 років тому

    Do a tour up the abandoned floors!

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts 6 років тому +3

      Lets just say that nobody is going to be getting anywhere secret in this building since the Jordan and the guard dog incident!

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +2

      I didn't hear about that? I know all the lift doors have been screwed shut from the outside and the restaurant has the shutters closed over the lift doors ua-cam.com/video/D3KGrNkCbXM/v-deo.html

    • @LiftSurferRYEGI
      @LiftSurferRYEGI 6 років тому

      Beno Lifts wow didn't hear about that!! Crazy!

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts 6 років тому +8

      The car park floors have been fixed shut for a while. They must have seen my video. But they forgot to screw shut the restaurant level doors. Tesco used to be my local urbex. I went there every week. There is so much interesting stuff in there. Somehow they realised that there was someone going into the building, but they didn't have a clue how. They put up cameras everywhere around tesco and PIR sensors. This must have cost them a lot of money. Despite locking the car park levels, they must have forgot all about this as they had no idea that we were entering through the lifts. A few weeks ago me and Jordan were going around tesco and I didn't notice the cameras. Then we suddenly heard doors slamming upstairs on restaurant while we were in the shop level. I looked up to see the faint red glow of an IR camera. This must have been the scariest experience I have ever had while urbexing. We knew every corner of tesco and we worked out the way back to the lift to avoid whoever it was crashing about upstairs. Once back at the lift, I was so scared that my hands were shaking and I couldn't get my drop key to latch the lift to escape. We could hear the guy getting closer and closer. I managed to hit the latch just in time.
      My friend Jordan is more risky than me. He wanted to play hide and seek with the guy in the building (even though we didn't know who it was). So Jordan went down to the secret levels and put the lift back into service so if he had to run from the guy he would escape through the fire exit and the lift wouldn't be left on inspection (a bad mistake). He was now trapped. We had never tried the fire exits as they were alarmed. Turns out they were all locked. Jordan was now trapped. He ran around the building for half an hour avoiding the guy who knew he was in there (because of the cameras) and was trying to catch him. One point the guy was standing right outside the toilet door where jordan was hiding. Then eventually Jordan ran into the guy. he had a massive guard dog. Jordan had no way out. He was running around tesco trying to phone me while the guy was chasing him. I drove a lift down to rescue him, and amazingly he managed to get out of there without being caught.

    • @aaronthefunnyboi5656
      @aaronthefunnyboi5656 6 років тому

      Imagine if the guard dog got him, he wouldn't be going to court for tresspassing, HE'D BE A BLOODY CORPSE!

  • @blue.light.fazbear
    @blue.light.fazbear 6 років тому

    Does the lifts still go into the shop

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому

      DJJack 1229 It does, but there isn't a way of sending it there without a key for the keyswitch. They have also closed the shutters down over the landing doors.

    • @blue.light.fazbear
      @blue.light.fazbear 6 років тому

      So have they switched the store level button and market keyswitch around?

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому

      Oh I see what you're saying. It a bit confusing because the rear doors used to open in the actual Tesco store, but that section has been boarded off into a 'secret' area now. Market Street was the front doors but they seem to have the buttons saying Store Level on what should have been Market Street. You can see it at 13:28. If that makes sense.

    • @MichalM
      @MichalM 5 років тому

      @@aidanstanding Correct!!!

    • @officalbrandonperfect
      @officalbrandonperfect 5 років тому

      No

  • @liftsinireland
    @liftsinireland 6 років тому +2

    13:24 : Since when were lifts toilets?!

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +2

      Some people are just disgusting.

    • @lawdelpus
      @lawdelpus 5 років тому +5

      since they got rid of phone boxes

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking5567 5 років тому

    A grim place.

  • @urban_fox_cub_urbex
    @urban_fox_cub_urbex 3 роки тому

    You can get into all of the disused parts Tesco’s go outdoors the cameras don’t work

  • @joaquinfernandesferreira2593
    @joaquinfernandesferreira2593 2 роки тому

    Level 1 is in red color

  • @elevatorsinwales9792
    @elevatorsinwales9792 4 роки тому +1

    8:32 I always thought where I came from (Port Talbot) was a shithole full of drugies and alcoholics, I’ve never seen anything like that in a car park. There’s only one multi car park in Port Talbot, it has 1 Lift (hasn’t worked for about 7 or 8 months), and cracked windows. But I’ve never seen anything that disgusting.

  • @stolensilver5811
    @stolensilver5811 3 роки тому +1

    I was in a bad mood before watching this. Now I feel much better

  • @captainboing
    @captainboing 5 років тому

    Looks like a mugger's paradise

  • @kiandray9785
    @kiandray9785 3 роки тому

    The whole of Chatham in general is fucking disgusting, except for the dockyard area, the saving grace I suppose

  • @elevatingmiddlesbrough6632
    @elevatingmiddlesbrough6632 6 років тому

    What lift keys do you have? :)

    • @morthren
      @morthren  6 років тому +1

      Let's just say the usual ones ;)

  • @minijimi
    @minijimi 5 років тому

    What a dump, likely no money spent on cleaning and maintenance of that building. Sad, you could have nice things but you never can.

  • @timexironman100m
    @timexironman100m 5 років тому

    Many shopping centres etc built in early 1980s would have looked good in relation to 1970 and 1960s buildings..yet fast forward to 2019 these look very dated and messy it does not matter who the building occupier was ..tesco in this instance, once a building becomrs empty it soon falls into disrepairs. I would imaging for security and anti social behavour it was easier to seal up floors 3 to 6 with brick work gates and bars...yes the place looks in dire state and looks terribly dated now..i live in dublin and have seen many shopping centres of same kinda designs from 1982 onwards which have all gone through refits or simply pulled down and rebuilt... the funny thing though the new building which go up in say early to present 2000s are going to look kinda shite by 2050 if they have not fallen down or condemed because developers made short cuts in construction codes...where this building looks ugly it most like built to social bunker standards :) :) :)

  • @rogerstrains
    @rogerstrains 5 років тому

    9:23 that's not nice

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 5 років тому

    This car park is due to be demolished

  • @gdsuperstar5657
    @gdsuperstar5657 3 роки тому

    As someone whos lived in medway my whole life , it really is this depressing. the whole place is a s**thole ......... kent has some lovely places to live , but this aint one of them ....

  • @stuartmcconnachie
    @stuartmcconnachie 5 років тому

    At points this tour was “piss” poor, and at one point just a little “crap”.

  • @catlover4971
    @catlover4971 6 років тому

    I'm old and unable to read the subtitles and view the pictures at the same time so a thumb down