The shining is one of the best known mainstream films to use the concept of liminal space as a source of fear. Not dark shadowy corners, not cobwebby mansions, not an atmosphere of midnight…but brightly lit, endless corridors of loud carpeting, an empty space that should be busy, endless halls and doors…
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 my high school was built in the 70s, when they thought fresh air and light would be distracting to kids…there was one tiny window about 2 ft wide and 5 ft tall at the very back of the room (which I climbed out of and onto the roof several times!) The 70s was a dark time for architecture indeed
@@gildedpeahen876 Ha yes, and the colors of the carpets, wallpaper, decorations etc were always like lime green, puke orange, dirty yellow, etc.. like “Sesame Street” colors.
The Shining is one of those rare movies that continues to be relevant as a person ages and gains more life experience and knowledge. Every time I watch The Shining I see connections I didn't notice when I saw it years ago as a kid. I guess that's what makes it such a great movie.
Very true. I realized watching this and the Exorcist, they are ridiculous films. This one especially. VERY campy. Should be on the level with Rocky Horror Picture Show.
@@williamjglover That depends. I watched a Brazilian version of Jeckyl and Hyde with our best telenovela actor at the time, and it was absolutely great. I was 6, and it scared the hell out of me, especially the transformation sequence. But today I'm a complete horror geek, though, as my wife says, I'm definitely not normal... which is a plus, IMO. :P
I find I can't watch the movie anymore after reading the book and watching the mini series which is true to the book,Kubrick made a mess of the movie probably why thats the only Stephen king book he made into a movie
@@zacrusk5274 Uhm no he didn't 💀 he exhausted her and made her work to her limits and then claimed she over acted, again the movie wouldn't be as scary with her "overacting"
@@neilsun2521 well he then publicly ridiculed her, she didn't get a lot of money, she didn't have a ton of roles after. Jack Nicholson got the praise which he deserved but so did Shelly and I'm sure all his comments affected that. Like I said if she didn't "over act" the movie wouldn't be as scary as it is
You mentioned that when Jack finally shifts to losing his mind, he switches from wearing green at the beginning of the movie to wearing red. What you didn't mention is that Wendy does the opposite: in the beginning she's wearing red and switches to green.
I felt like the color green means the character is in touch with reality. Red means they're not. I feel like Wendy was delusional about how bad things were for her and Danny at first.
It isn't just Wendy's color choice of red, then green. Many scenes where we're supposed to see from Wendy's perspective are slightly different from when viewed from the POV of someone else in the scene with her. Wendy's shift to reality completes when she reads the "...Jack..." pages. Definitely overlapping of POV's until we finally see the entire reality of what's been happening in the climax. Not necessarily everything spelled out, but much, in not all (up to that point) are skewed by many of the characters POV
@@j.munday7913Green is also a 'calm color' and red is often depicted as anger. While Jack and Danny's characters are explored, Wendy still remains a bit mystery. I have yet to read the book but IMO Wendy might not have been any better than Jack in her treatment toward Danny. Not saying she was like Jack but I get the feeling she crossed the line between shooing child away for being underfoot and actual neglect. How often did Wendy spend time with Danny before everything went sideways?
The ghosts never blink, and when Jack interacts with the ghosts, he doesn’t blink either. I can see Kubrick telling them “don’t blink” just to make their lives miserable.
So, I’ve only seen this movie once, but it definitely stuck with me. It was also the first time I had seen Shelley Duvall, and man, I instantly fell in love with both the film and her. It pains me to know that Kubrick basically put her through hell just for this movie, and I think that’s why her performance in it is so terrifying and memorable, but that kind of loops on itself and makes me feel more sad for her. She was an absolute gem of a person and actress. Rest well, Shelley Duvall. You will be missed 🙏🏼❤️
Yeah, I hate how exaggerated the fan theories for Kubrick's movies become. Kubrick definitely did some very creative things with his movies, but there is so much retconning by fans to try and make him look like an even bigger genius than he was that it takes away from what he actually produced, in my opinion. Not everything has to be a level 100 mindbender; some pieces can just be straightforward.
Yes-but that victim then became a victim before he even existed, because the Overlook always exists. So YES, he did become a vic-err ther caretaker. But he was ALWAYS the vic-eerr the caretaker. I like this theory, because it's not a huge stretch or doesn't plot twist what you describe, but explains the whole nostalgia timeless nature etc
That doesn't fit. The deja vu like no Deja Vu ever before. You've always been here. It could mean that the picture changes according to the current Reincarnation of that person like the next person to take the bartender's place or the caretakers place will suddenly take on their appearance. Hannah thought about it like that. The whole thing is he's been there before maybe not in his current incarnation. Fun fun fun
Jack looking at the camera actually happens thought the hole movie.... It's meant to f#$k with our subconscious. (And saying in some way that we are that's ones looking at everything in the movie and hoping for thing to go bad, we are part of the ghost) There's a video here on YT with a compilation of everytime he does.
In the book, it’s Horace Derwent, the original owner of the Overlook. He was one of the ghosts that attached to Danny after he and his mother left the Overlook. The other was Mrs. Massey (the old lady in the tub, whose story was actually really sad). Danny eventually learned to trap Derwent and Mrs. Massey in his mind, thanks to Halloran (who didn’t die in the book).
@@ProfessorToadstool he used to hate it. Absolutely. Over the years, he’s come to appreciate it for what it is, though. He’s said that in interviews and such. Either way, the ghosts and such in the movies can share the same backstories and such, even if the movie doesn’t delve into it.
I first saw this movie when I was about 7 or 8. The lady in the tub scared the living shit out of me and I was terrified of going into a bathroom with a closed shower door or curtain for years afterward. Second time I watched it was with my ex wife and we were doing other shit the entire time, so I barely paid any attention (aside from the "HERE'S JOHNNY" part. I decided to watch it again with my son tonight, and after watching this video I am only now realizing how fucking weird this movie really is.
One of my favourite parts was the sound of Danny’s bike going from wood to carpet to wood. It built up such a level of tension that I haven’t often seen in a film Also the hand gestures is also ‘as above, so below’ which is a spiritual symbol for what happens above (higher realm/heaven) happens on the lower realms as well (could be earth, could be hell). Could be that it symbolises the loop of what’s happening or that the overlook is quite literally one of the circles of hell
Yes, and also it is Right-hand Path and Left-Hand Path. Did you notice the folded piece of paper in Jack's raised hand? I seriously doubt that was an accident.
It also brings to mind the Magician from tarot! Seeing as it's a male figure focused on transformation, rebirth, and manifesting his own power, it really scraams Jack
If I have one criticism of this film, it's that Jack Nicholson already looks like he's about 1 hair from going insane/breaking right from the get go. I even thought that as a kid, and found him creepy and subconsciously knowing "yup, that guy is clearly going to go nuts". As always, great video.
That was the biggest problem Uncle Stevie had with Kubrick's mangling of his story. Jack was supposed to be ashamed of himself for all the stuff he put his family through when he gave in to his alcoholism. He wasn't crazy, he was seeking redemption but the hotel got into his head. Stephen King's version, the mini series, is very loyal to the book and I loved it. Being a big fan of King, and having read the Shining so many times, my book was worn out, I was shocked when I saw Kubrick's version, especially the end. Jack sitting there frozen with that idiotic face, was too much and I absolutely hated he called it the Shining. I like the movie but it isn't the Shining I know.
I agree, and I think he reveals this in the car on the way to the 'Overlook', with his slightly menacing parody of his son: "Hear that - he saw it on T.V."
All these years and I just realized that I don't quite like the movie, as good as it is. It's one of those fictions that is malevolent. Not good to have in my head. Perhaps that's the genius of Kubrick, but the book version has a moral quality that is lacking in the movie - in my opinion. Either way, both versions of the story are classics in their own right.
I can relate to both statements..years ago I worked security where you sit outside in a company car on this rich guy's property..it was all nightshift and during one snowy week I read the book there when sitting in the car with snow drifts up against the garage/ loft structure😳🥺😨...and the movie still gets to me too
The changes in the body language and speech of each character as the scene progresses is subtle but effective brilliance. At the beginning Jack is cocky and standing tall, acting like he's got it all figured out, while Grady is hunched over, apologetic and submissive in his role as one of the servants. Gradually this situation reverses as Jack becomes confused and much less certain which is mirrored in his body language of shrinking away from Grady while at the same time his vocal style becomes weaker and less commanding. In contrast, Grady stands tall becomes much more of an imposing physical presence while his voice deepens and becomes far more masculine and authoritative. Superb performances from both actors and brilliantly directed of course.
I never noticed the difference in the names before (Charles vs. Delbert). Nor did I ever really grok that if Charles Grady was Ullmans predecessor, that would have put him there in like the 1950s. Delbert Grady's mannerisms and dress seem to put him in a time long before that, as do the dresses of his two daughters. They look like something out of a British Victorian seaside resort.
A couple of years ago I went on a stint where I watched over a dozen commentaries on the movie. One of the last one I watched had a very convincing explanation. The premise was that Jack didn't really go nuts. He and his family survived. He did write a novel, a crazy novel -- the film is based on the crazy novel Jack wrote.
20:10 Whenever the model of the maze transitions into this scene of the actual maze is one of my favorite shots in cinema. It's such a seamless transition that it made me feel as if Danny and Wendy are trapped in Jack's reality (or lack thereof). For a photographer, such as myself, this image is just terrific in its composition
@kittenkorleone2918 Yeah man. It worked so well when Stephen king did his mini series @ about being true to the book” It wasn’t corny and terrible at all. The topiary animals were very scary in the authors adaption tonin screen.
I love your description of how the transition made you feel, to be honest it confused me first time. i actually skipped back felt like i missed something, not shure if that's what the film was trying to do, confusing you to pull unsettling/paranoid feeling or make you feel as uncertain as to what is real and what is hallucination, like the characters in the movie are dealing/ living with.
Through the use of the shinning, Danny saw through the hotels warping of reality the whole time. He was seeing everything as it was happening. He resorted to Tony, his finger puppet, to keep his mind from being manipulated. He finally went catatonic from the relentless attack. He snapped out of it with the help of Tony, and was able to warn his mother of the impending attack. That kid was a hero.
It isn't explained in the movie, but in the book towards the end you discover Tony is Danny from the future helping himself survive the stay at the Overlook
I feel the line "You've always been the caretaker. I should know, I've always been here." relates to the incarnation of Jack's vices. He's met the bartender, we know he's always been an alcoholic. He's met the lady in the bathroom, we know he's always been a womanizer. But there's been a murderous part of himself that has always been there though it's never manifested until now. Jack is the caretaker of his roster of vices. He's the main personality housing alcoholism, womanizing and murder. And while the first two have always been apparent, the murderous side has always been there hiding and now it's come out. Jack is the caretaker of his "three ghosts". It's like someone with multiple personalities having one of their personalities say to them: "I've always been here but you're in charge."
Not to put the two movies in the same league but Inception is another movie that illuminates the complexities of a conflicted / fragmented personality & how it manifests into the final resolve
About jacks sobriety timeline: when Shelly is talking with the doctor she also says that jacks been sober for about 5 months, or 6 or something, but she frames it like that he stopped drinking right after he injured Danny. So when jack says he injured Danny three years ago, we just learn that it took him a while after hurting Danny to stop drinking, but it wasn’t a secret to Wendy, cuz she gave the same sobriety timeline. She just hid from the doctor the fact that jack kept drinking after hurting Danny
Yes - and that makes us, the audience, dislike her even more, because she's making excuses for Jack - and presenting Danny's abuse as a hapless accident.
@@pawdaw it never made me dislike her. I see it as someone in an abusive marriage, trying to sugar coat the situation for this person who is a mandated reporter, out of fear of losing her son to social services. Wendy and jack are both guilty of putting Danny in wildly in appropriate situations, it’s more obvious in the book I think…but still jack is the most scary and abusive, and I think Wendy makes these excuses for him out of fear of family separation, as she waffles back and forth internally about whether the marriage is worth keeping together or not
I believe the reason this movie was so successful was that much of it worked on the unconscious level. Much work was put into messing with the mind, sort of like gaslighting, to make the ciewer feel confused, off balance, nervous and anxious. ALL WITHOUT A SINGLE JUMP SCARE. No feeble juvenile tactics to build tension, but a masterpiece of subliminal mind !uck.
@@joepermenter7228also when danny turns the hallway corner and sees the grady twins-i’d argue that’s a jumpscare. especially if you watch the whole scene.
I’ve always seen the shot of Jack in the 1921 picture at the end, as the hotel taking another victim and claiming him as apart of the ghostly spirits that keep it alive. Just like Grady is now forever apart of the hotel, “I should know Mr. Torrance. I’ve always been here.”
I loved the comic timing of Jack Nicolson in the scene where he says *Here's Johnny* , truly an iconic scene indeed btw I don't understand why Shelly DuVall's performance was hated her performance was really great as a scared and mentally tormented woman.
Probably because she wasn't like the young victims in most horror films especially at the time they are always sexy or at least pretty Shelley had really tears and exhaustion Kubrick terrorized her to the point she was so stressed she was losing hair Her performance wasn't acting she was genuinely terrified and exhausted
@@HealthyObbsession lmao no she was not. Exhausted from Kubrick’s long hours? For sure. Verbally berated multiple times? Almost definitely. Genuinely terrified and scared for her life? Nada.
Well, now I’m starting to read into the movie. For example, when Shelley asks about the “Indian paintings” we hear a real description of opposite cultures. The Navajo were viewed as peaceful and non-threatening but the Apache were feared by all tribes, including the white man. They exist as one general theme of the hotel but it’s actually two themes of the hotel, running parallel to each other. One good the other not so much. This duality idea fits into the hotel as a portal that allowed Jack the Writer to descend to Jack the Hacker.
Ultimately “The Shining” is about a haunted hotel that was built on an Indian burial ground. There are tons of references to this throughout the movie. Kubrick used multiple methods to establish an unsettling and unreal atmosphere to the film. One of the methods he used was that nothing in the background ever moved, not even trees. The only natural element that ever moved of it’s own accord was the fire in the giant fireplace. This lent a feeling of stillness and death to everything.
The Shining really makes me appreciate Kubrick. I don't even care for horror films much. The way Kubrick shot, edited and designed this film makes it fantastic for me anyway. There are so many ways and layers to appreciate that you can really like it in your own way. There's no one easy path here. It's just lots of greatness.
One of my favorite scenes of this whole movie, and it actually follows the book well in this scene, is the bathroom moment with Grady. It is sooo well done and gives you this ever increasing unsettling feeling. I was so excited when I came to this scene in the book too. It's interesting because Grady actually was a gruff alcoholic like Jack, it's only after the hotel obtains Grady that he becomes this proper speaking/looking gentleman. "I corrected them, sir." One of the most chilling lines in any horror movie ever. ❤️
The scrapbook that Jack has open on his writing desk was a big plot point in the book. It contained the news clippings of all the events that went on in the hotel's history. Jack would spend hours pouring over it in the basement while he kept a watch on the boiler. "She creeps."
That seemed to go on forever in the book. Interesting point, just read up on some deleted scenes that show Jack with the notebook a lot more. Even the extended version just shows it in one shot I think.
Jacks comment about "white mans burden", wasnt about white guilt. The bartender was pouring him a drink, he was referring to alcohol, which has been called the "white mans burden" for more than a century - because it was the burden that white man put on the natives. Its not referring to a burden the white man carries, its referring to burden the white man GAVE to natives. I grew up on the outskirts of an Indian reservation in a small town, and having alcoholics in the family, I heard that term many many times. Honestly, Occam's razor would have solved this... he's literally saying it as he's looking at the drink.
I disagree. 'The White Man's Burden', can be looked up on Wikipedia easily. The color red is significant throughout the film. The building was built upon Native Burial Grounds, has a blood-red themed elevator (elevators also go down), and the Hotel itself has a history of murders/murderers.
"White Man's Burden" is from Kipling. Take up the White Man's burden- Send forth the best ye breed- Go bind your sons to exile To serve your captives' need; It's not about alcohol, it's about colonialism.
Thanks for covering that window in Ullman's office, I remember watching the movie in my teens and feeling so unsettled by that scene, but I couldn't pinpoint WHY it left me that way. Everything you went into about the impossible layout and the unconventional use of light in the film, makes perfect sense.
Stephen King has written short stories that have kept me up at night . He's brilliant at grasping the imagination and bringing out every dark thing hiding in it. He makes your mind go boo and you shudder at every turn of the page .
There is a great scene when Jack and the family are being taken on a tour of the hotel.There’s a man cleaning a cabinet or something and he is dressed exactly like Jack when he tries to murder everyone.The interesting thing is when Jack walks past the man he looks over at him and then starts limping.Check it out,.I Love iT!..X
Directors like Kubrick have the best job in the world. Everyone assumes they're such geniuses that even mistakes get settled in people's minds as something so deep and layered that we just don't understand
@heavyspoilersnice list Godfather&The Thing great movies have you seen They Live by carpenter has a thing feel to it,You could throw Taxi Driver & just about anything by Hitchcock on list as well.
I've always known the skeleton scene. I always believed it meant Wendy was finally able to see the hotel in it's truest form but could be wrong. Yes, if you've never seen it before it could be a little jarring, I'd imagine.
@@GreasySwayzebut that’s not the true form of the Hotel. The police searched the Overlook and they found nothing. The Hotel is not showing it’s true form, it’s scaring them into insanity with illusions while feeding off their fear and pain.
@@GreasySwayzein the books, that’s basically what the hotel does. Obviously, the movie didn’t have enough time to delve into it, but it slowly revealed itself as it went along. At first, she’d just notice little things, like confetti in the floor of the elevator. After a while, the elevator’s started moving on their own, she’d hear laughter and voices talking about a party in the hallways, and it was actively trying to keep Danny (and her) inside so Jack could kill him/them (the hedge animals surrounded the exits, elevators stopped working, etc.) In the movie, I think the hotel was just showing her a bit of what it really was to scare her and feed off her negative emotions.
@@carbine090909 Have you seen From Dusk to Dawn? That's the first movie I had ever heard of QT and still on my list of movies I can watch over and over of 5. My son, now 29, was 6mths old and I loved George Clooney so thought, HELL YEA, SEXY MAN, he's a bad guy robber and action.... I was shocked, loved, loved the absolute nobody saw it coming. That's when I started watching his movies.. I love majority of his movies, BUT, I also see him as a Rob Zombie director, who btw I learned who he was from his song in the movie Matrix.. I'm a black woman, yes but I love hard rock, some metal, alternative, grunge than my hip hop so yea, friends call me a Rocker.. What do you think of Rob movies? Anyway, what I mean by QT & Rob is that they are predictable in a specific genre
I watched this yesterday after originally seeing it in a theater in 1980. I like how Danny leaves his kitchen hiding place to draw Jack outside. Danny then again reveals himself to Jack and runs into the maze, with Jack following. Danny takes control and leads Jack to his death outside the hotel, which is perhaps significant.
Significant, indeed. He may have only been trying to evade, but... I imagine that, regardless of intent, patricide would certainly compound the haunting effects of any prior events.
When Wendy leaves Danny at the table watching Roadrunner to go talk to Jack, the song on the TV says, "his idea of fun" at the time she walks away. Then she picks up the bat, slowly, like she doesn't want Danny to notice. But I think Danny has had the idea to overcome Jack at that moment and is telling his mother to take the bat.
The shining, the thing and silence of the lambs are my top three! It’s interesting that we can watch this movie over and over and have such different take away from it. To me the movie is actually three movies tied into one. Know who else did the as above so below pose? George Washington
just a note on the steadicam you mentioned. Brown (who invented the steadicam) had sent kubrick a sizzle reel of him using the rig as well as film he'd shot with it asking for feedback. kubrick said that he has a film in mind where he would love to use it but asked if it could go lower and almost hover over the ground. brown then adjusted the steadicam as per his request and thats how we got the shots of danny on his bike riding around the hotel.
I think it’s heartbreaking how bad Shelley Duvall was treated during the filming of the shining & how her life turned out.. honestly she made the shining, Ik Steven king said he didn’t picture shelly for the role & the Kubrick guy treated her awful.. But really her character & acting made the shining a cult classic.. I’ve often thought more about the shining theory of Danny being ab*sed by his father (which is probably the most common explanation). But the shining of those movies that could have so many different meanings & the writers never wanted to truly explain it all because they didn’t want to ruin the audience’s imagination, I think that’s why these films also turn into cult classics because it’s so careful done to lead the audience with multiple conclusions, multiple theories. These movies lead a memorable impression of everyone years later still obsessing/ & theorizing over the film. It’s really an amazing psychological thriller, not just the movie but the audience’s reaction to the movie..
Not sure why but the part of this movie that haunts me the most from when i was a kid is danny saying "red rum" and shelly seeing it written on the mirror. I literally hear it in my head every once in a while. This is a great movie.
It wasn't written on the mirror. It was written on the wall. She saw the reflection in the mirror which showed it backwards. Revealing redrum is murder spelled backwards.
My favorite scene is when Wendy visits Jack in the big, empty room where he is supposed to be writing his book. This is the first time Wendy and the audience get a glimpse of Jack becoming insane. Shelley Duvall and Jack Nicholson were amazing together.
I noticed today that in that scene, the first view from faraway has Jack sitting in front of the staircase, which looks pretty dark on my TV, and above it there is a crown shaped light hanging and together they kind of look like the monolith with the sun over it in 2001.
@@JimmyJ1983 I also read that Kubrick was known for many re-takes which meant really long days for the actors/actresses. But besides the physical strain put on the crew, it seems like Nicholson and Duvall liked and respected Kubrick.
I'm in the opinion that pretty much everyone in the film has the Shining. The hotel attracts them like a magnet. Wendy has it, but it only works when she is afraid. Note the line where Jack says she's a horror movie buff. So when she's freaking out she Shines the Overlook into a haunted house full of skeletons and spider webs.
In doctor sleep, Danny explains that most people have shinning, but to a very weak degree and without knowing it's the shinning. He uses as examples husbands who come home with flowers when their wives coincidentally are sad, or when sometimes someone does well on a test even without having studied. So I think that's a very valid theory.
In the book it's explained that Wendy has it a bit because she's a mother and I guess most mother's shine a bit and the novel also heavily implies Jack shines too but he's so broken as a person and has shoved it away so much that he isn't aware of it nor can he actively use it. I really do highly recommend reading the book cuz it actually answered a lot of questions I've always had about the movie. You even find out who the people are in the scene with the dogman.
Definitely , I am sure that anybody who has had an alcoholic in their family knows that when a person is drunk they act like exactly as if they were possessed by some sort of evil power. It manifests either when they are drunk, or when they try to convince everyone why they need to drink more.
...it's just the alcohol talkin'. Years ago a good friend of mine says, "I hate quitters. I quit one time. Worst 20 minutes of my life." RIP Joel. No one could ever fill your shoes.... If this much fuss was put to the task, I bet they could figure out who shot president John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Obviously someone knows because they pulled the trigger. They could still be alive. Shine on you crazy diamond, give us all you got, show us the shining one more time......
I remember daring myself to watch the movie, even though I was terrified, but I ended up loving it. That led me to buying the book which I loved even more. Still one of my favorite books of all time.
I think the Overlook Hotel is like the monkey's paw in that it gives each person who enters it what they want, but always in a twisted fashion. Recall Danny told Wendy he wanted someone to play with in Boulder; now he gets the twins saying, "come play with us, Danny." Wendy is a confirmed ghost story and horror film addict, so now she gets the full horror story treatment, complete with cheesy skeletons. Jack wanted a second chance and to be respected for his achievements, so the hotel gloms onto that and gives him the "mission" of killing his son. I'm not sure what Dick Halloran wants--maybe he's special because he can resist the hotel's attempts to tempt him. BTW, in addition to the nude photos in the boiler room, there's instructions on how to help someone who is choking--and someone chokes Danny around this time. One question I do have is what is the significance of the little piece of paper Jack is holding in his hand when he's in the Baphomet pose in the 1921 picture at the end of the film--some kind of magic spell, maybe?
I always thought when Jack says Wendy is a ghost and horror film addict, he was clearly lying, to reassure the manager. Wendy is passive and easily scared and Jack knows if she knew the truth, she wouldn't go anywhere near the place.
@@UberStarFkr - although plenty of people loved working with him; for many it was a career highlight. Malcolm McDowell only wishes he could have been in another Kubrick film. Kubrick got on with Peter Sellers so well he cast him five times in two films. Leon Vitali quit acting after Barry Lyndon to be Kubrick's full-time assistant. Jack Nicholson never had a bad word to say. Lee Ermey said he had no problems working with Kubrick because unlike SOME actors he knew all his lines.
I am absolutely addicted to "The Shining." I saw it in the 80's when it first came out and after it came out on video I revisit it every year and sometimes twice a year! Despite the fact that the movie "sits" in one location: the Overlook, each plot scene is unpredictable because Kubrick was a genius. While it must have been difficult for the actors, Kubrick knew how to expand the consciousness of the audience and the context of each scene. By the end of the movie, one can almost "smell" the Overlook as one watches the movie. No movie that I know has ever done this!
I spent one night in Timberline Lodge back in the Winter of 1995-1996 with my USCSA Skiing/Snowboarding Team for our post-Nationals post-season retreat on Mt. Hood. We stayed at the Reed College Ski Cabin in Government Camp for three nights prior to being at Timberline, and then we did our last night of our retreat at Silcox Hut up on Palmer Glacier. It was our BEST retreat, and being SUCH a HUGE fan of The Shining and of Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick, it was SO AMAZING to be at the location where so much of the movie takes place. It was a COMPLETE TRIP to be there.
I met one of the Women in that picture,she was a resident at these apartments I worked maintenance at. She had the photo hung up in her living room,she seemed very proud to be part of this.
Nope. Too soon. Maybe just me? But if I walked into a room to *that* photo and someone starts like, 'look there I am...', I'm not hanging around for the story
If you look closely at the girls in the hallway you can see they’re NOT twins and could have easily been two years apart in age, making it entirety possible that they are indeed Grady’s children.
They were twins in real life. I think everyone might be misinterpreting what he said. Maybe he didnt mean they were "8 *and* 10". He was guessing their age as twins being *around* 8 and 10? He wasnt sure.
@gravityslave6277 except he very clearly says, "I think about 8 and 10." Which is their ages in the book as they are not twins. You can also tell when they stand next to each other they are different heights
@@airduke13 Then they wouldnt be twins would they? Looked it up. They were just sisters of 8 and 10 in the book. Kubrick cast twins and made them twins. So what ever
@@airduke13 I'll help you with the tough part sport. The book says that they were 8 and 10 separately. They were just referred to as "sisters". Remember I said I just looked it up. (That part you're correct). But Stanley Kubrick meant for them to be *IDENTICAL TWINS* for the movie to add a creepy factor. That means they should be the *SAME* age. That's how twins work. (FYI...the girls were actual twins in real life. Both 12 years old.) Yet he (Kubrick) allowed/forgot that book line to still be put in the movie script for character Stuart Ullman even though it contradicted his movie adaptation for having *twins* in the role. Twins can't be different ages. So that line doesn't make sense. Get it? Take aspirin for any headaches.
Excellent breakdown. I never noticed the similarity between Baphomet and Nicholson’s pose in the 1921 picture. That raises questions about how much Kubrick’s imagery in “The Shining” is intertwined with his later occult imagery in “Eyes Wide Shut,” which has several references to Satanism, Babylonian paganism and Freemasonry.
Mediterranean death cultists who practice the occult every day while asserting their hatred of the occult are highly amusing. It's funny when they pretend to know what they're talking about. Death cultists are the best entertainment
Devil is not a Creator but a deceiver, father of lies. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven is God's train of thought. No surprise he copied that, but not just, he inverted it- it should actually be "As below, so above." But that would sell as well...
Kubrick was an occultist and he shows it in his movies. The higher ups didn’t like what he showed in “ Eyes Wide Shut” and had him knocked off. ( satanic rituals etc)
One piece of criticism King had for the movie that I totally agree with: the way they did the father was wrong, in that it makes the character crazy for most or even the whole time he's at the hotel, rather than having it be a slow decline to insanity. Jack Torrence is supposed to be a regular guy at the beginning-a recovering alcoholic, with a dark past, but not actually insane. He goes insane through the slow torture of the hotel, which is something else the movie kinda does poorly. There aren't really a whole lot of incidents that precipitate his madness in the movie; they basically move in and he's staring like a zombie out the window with no context behind it...we're just supposed to accept, and say "oh, ok...I guess Jack is full-on crazy now."
I agree too. Its also not obvious the hotel is more than just haunted in the film or that the hotel wanted Danny. In the book its explicitly explained. I also hate the choice to kill Hallorann or leave out the hedge animals.
King can hold his breathe till he's blue in the face for " hating" Kubricks version, but in all honesty Stanley Kubrick's The Shining made Stephen King a house hold name.
In the book Jack wasn’t the one who went crazy it was like the Overlook was wearing Jack as a mask and slowly controlling his body and using him to get to Danny and become stronger. The real Jack was long dead before he did any harm. The book is very sad tbh
Yes. I totally agree with that. They didn’t give jack a slow character development. He just went crazy right off. I kinda didn’t like the movie just cuz of that tbh.
I think the shape of the hotel shot jumping to the ladder shot is supposed to imply the shape of a teepee. The hotel is evil because it’s on a Native American burial ground, that’s canon from the book. Also, it’s implied in the book that because the hotel is alive, the hotel can “move” or “shapeshifter,” hence the appearance/disappearance of different hallways, rooms, doors throughout the movie.
Yeah, the whole Native American burial ground is the thing that ruined King's story for me. Most tribes would leave the body to naturally decompose in a tree or on a funeral platform, or by leaving an opening in the burial chamber so the spirit could escape, not below ground like the book implies for a hotel to built upon.
I'm native so Indian burial grounds just don't scare me at all..if anything I'm afraid of white man burial ground...just kidding but trust me indians aren't scary.
@@SmartCookie2022I like that you wrote that comment acting like you’ve read the book when you clearly havent, if you had youd know the Indian burial ground plot point was put in by Kubrick just for the movie and had nothing to do with Stephen Kings book….
I like how Kubrick managed to incorporate so many elements into his movies. He really stands out as possibly the greatest director of all time. There is a layer in The Shining that often goes overlooked (no pun intended) and that is that Jack is not only abusive towards his son, but also his wife. You can actually watch the whole movie as a metaphor for the tyrannical husband. Every frame a painting, this is a masterpiece.
the scene in which Jack explores Room 237 and finds a nude woman is not a literal event, but Danny’s repressed version of the molestation as he communicates it telepathically to Dick Hallorann. (Remember that during that scene, there are intermittent shots of a trembling Danny and a horrified Hallorann.) The Room 237 scene is the fire truck scene, viewed through Hallorann’s mind as he “shines” it from Danny, who has repressed the literal events. In this repressed version, Danny has been replaced with Jack, and Jack has been replaced by the “crazy lady.” For evidence, consider the many parallels between the Room 237 scene and the fire truck retrieval scene. Both scenes take place in rooms with the same layout. Both scenes involve an entrant progressing through the layout and seeing someone unexpected-Danny sees Jack awake, Jack sees a woman in the bathtub. Next, this unexpected person makes the same exact motion: Jack’s “come here” gesture to Danny is exactly the same as the bathtub woman’s moving away the curtain. Then, the entrant approaches the unexpected person and the two interact: Danny sits on Jack’s lap, Jack embraces the nude woman. The fire truck scene cuts here, but we can infer from the Room 237 scene what happens next. In that scene, Jack, after embracing the young woman, sees the woman rotting in the mirror, and he recoils in horror. Symbolically, this is what happens to Danny: he readily approaches his father and then, upon being assaulted, realizes the repulsive side to the initially appealing figure. There’s a mirror at the foot of Jack’s bed that Kubrick emphasizes with fancy camerawork in multiple scenes. Danny would have seen his own molestation in this mirror, which is why in the Room 237 scene Jack first sees the ugliness of the woman in a mirror. There’s also an editing choice toward the end of the Room 237 scene that shows the old woman rising from the bathtub, which is odd given that our first sight of the woman was as a young woman, not old. This represents Danny’s realization that the figure he approached (his father) was evil all along-that his initially favorable impression of his father was incorrect. The old woman rising from the bathtub therefore represents Jack waking up from his nap as an ugly, evil person. The shot only comes late in the scene because Danny only realizes too late that he was fooled by his father’s reassuring demeanor. The brief scene in which an unseen presence rolls a ball toward Danny while he plays with cars is the initiation of Danny’s telepathic communication to Hallorann. Danny is noticeably missing his fire truck in this scene, an indication that his entering Room 237 represents his entering his apartment to retrieve the toy. The scene cuts as Danny enters Room 237 because at this point Danny begins to repress the events; when we next see Room 237, Danny, in his “shining” rendition of events, has replaced himself with his father, and has altered and repressed the sequence as previously described. So Jack indeed inflicted the bruises on Danny’s neck during the off-screen molestation. Jack denies this to Lloyd, but he does so right before exclaiming that the last time he hurt his son was “three goddamn years ago,” demonstrating that at this time he is personifying his “past” 1920s-30s incarnation, and his recounting doesn’t apply. Danny attempts to deal with the traumatic event in various ways, firstly by creating the childlike story that his aggressor was a “crazy lady in one of the rooms” and secondly by succumbing completely to Tony. As the psychologist had deduced earlier, Tony had helped Danny to cope with prior violence from his father. Now, as the harm from his father escalates, so does Danny’s reliance on Tony. The final question to be answered about the Room 237 scene is: why, if it’s Danny’s psychological invention, does it feature such adult content? The answer is that Hallorann also influences what we see, since he receives the vision. He sees Danny’s “crazy lady” fabrication through his own personal lens. Note the two conspicuous pictures of naked women on Hallorann’s bedroom walls immediately before he “shines” the scene from Danny. It makes sense that the molestation as visualized by Hallorann would feature nudity, rather than fatherly love, as the initial “attractor.” shining3 The 237 scene can be watched, therefore, as a blend between 1) the actual event of Jack molesting Danny, 2) Danny’s childish coping story, and 3) Hallorann’s adult perspective. Truly an original, complex piece of filmmaking that demands even more analysis than I have room for here.
I INSTANTLY recognized the Mt Hood Timberline hotel at 0:36 (i grew up in Oregon), and i NEVER had any idea The Shining used it as the exterior shots of the hotel in the movie (its actually a ski/snowboard resort) as ive never actually seen it past the bloody intro. Thats wild, i actually broke my back on Mt Hood a few years back while snowboarding
Even if the impossible rooms with doors that lead nowhere, was unintentional, when I watched the movie at a friend's house, I noticed some of the sets made an actual floor plan & that was one of the two things that gave me chills. I thought it was part of the hotel being a living breathing entity, churning & changing so that a door could take you into a ballroom, a hallway or a suite, The other thing that made me shiver was when Jack looks over the model of the maze and sees his wife & Danny in the maze, The elevator door unleashing a river of blood, room 237, most of the hallmarks & scenes most people found terrifying didm't really scare me. Okay, Scatman getting hit with the axe was frightening, but primarily it was a jump-scare.
So true! We grew up watching some of the wildest things. Probably why modern movies have no effect on us, other than thinking most of them suck and are just remakes.
Me and the kids found a vcr tape in a fleamarket and unfortunately watched Terrorvision. Which I highly recommend 10/10. The kids never forgot it. I'm a bad mom.😁
The fact this movie is scary isnt because of the main characters its the ghostly characters and also the LIMINAL SPACES this place had and is its an amazingly curious place to explore yet creepy at the same time
I saw The Shining when it hit theaters. I was just a couple of weeks off of turning 12. My mom hid her face for half of it, but when she tried to cover MY eyes, I squirmed away and ran down to sit closer to the screen. I was hooked. It's been my favorite movie since then. I'm 54 now, and have ZERO regrets. I feel like I got to grow up learning the ins and outs of Kubrick's genius along with the rest of the world. The 1980 US release was impeccable. I can't come close to imagining what more Stanley would have done with the Shining given time and budget.
Your the same age as me 54 and I have to say growing up in the 70,s and 80,s is like no other. The movies the music, the childhood freedom, and the fast foods tasted way, way, better!!!! 😜😜😜🤪🤪👍👍🇨🇦😇
I feel sorry for Shelley and Scatman for the number of takes both were either on the verge a mental breakdown or were so worn-out that they collapsed after multiple reshoots yes I consider this one of Shelley's best roles but she went through hell for the right to call herself the safest horror movie mom ever
I'm not sure I feel sorry for them....from what I've read (and in some "making of" video clips you can see it) shelley was being annoying and childish....and scatman was Known for being TOTALLY unprepared for whatever shooting he was to do on any given day on any given movie....not knowing his lines etc ....so maybe it was Kubricks passive aggressive way of getting back at them?? or of actually Forcing a decent performance out of them??
Doc was Danny's nickname before he met Halloran. That's why Wendy asks him how he knew his nick name was Doc, and it foreshadows his and Danny's ability to communicate telepathically. I'm in Canada and we never had the skeleton scene either, at least in my area. When I saw it recently I started laughing, doesn't fit with the movie at all. Great video 👍🏻
When I graduated high school I wore a John Lennon Shine On t shirt under my cap & gown. Once the ceremony was done I removed the ensemble and took most photos sporting Shine On. Many many moons after the song was written it still shines now ❤
I remember seeing this as a kid and so much of it stuck with me. I wouldn't say it was horrifying, but the overall creepiness of it all was something i never shook and still sits in the corners on my mind
This film is so special to me because no matter how many reviews, analysis and even watch the movie itself. I always learn and discover something new. And i still dont get the movie but man i love it
This movie was freaking spectacular from every angle imaginable !!! Both Shelley and Jack Nicklson were absolutely fabulous !!!! This was one of the BEST Movies I've ever seen in my life !!!!
22:46 The hotel feeds on the shining. Dick wasn't trying to mislead Danny. For Halloran the ghosts are like pictures and scenes but not able to touch him. Danny has much more power than Dick so the Overlook is capable of actually interacting with him and his surroundings.
With The Shining being one of my favorite movies, I’ve seen tons of breakdown videos. Nevertheless, I ALWAYS learn of new theories and conspiracies. Thanks for another great video!
A point was made that the background and rooms were well lit as compared to typical horror films. I found it odd that all lights were on which would be impractical and expensive, rather than have a moderate portion of the hotel’s lights on for three people. But the fact that all lights in the hotel were on indicates that there are more than three beings present. The first time I was at the Timberline Lodge I hadn’t seen The Shining so it didn’t have an impact on me. Kind of wish I’d seen the movie first!
I haven’t seen a video that mentions it (though I’m sure there is one), but it seems conceivable that the two girls also had the Shine, which would explain why they didn’t like the hotel to the point of trying to burn it down. It would also reinforce the idea of the Shine being a hereditary trait shared by Mr. Grady and his daughters, which is why they are all still there. The daughters may just be stuck in “Overlook Purgatory” and really do want Danny (and Tony) to stay and play with them because they’ve had nobody their age at the hotel with the Shine before. There may be no sinister intentions from the girls, just a high creepy factor. Maybe it’s in the novel, which I read so many years ago I can’t remember. I prefer the film to the novel, which may be a unique instance for me, as I can’t think of any other case of a film being better than the book (for my tastes).
One other point that supports the Native American take on The Shining is Danny’s clever trick of walking backwards in his own tracks in the snow while being pursued by Jack. This was purportedly a trick employed by Native Americans to throw off a pursuit. (Also, one small point, the Stanley Hotel is located in Estes Park, not Boulder, which is about an hour’s drive away. Estes Park is the entry point of Rocky Mountain Natl. Park.)
The Stanley Hotel is actually located in Estes Park, Colorado, around an hour north of Boulder. It’s breathtaking when you first drive up and see the hotel on a hill overlooking (😉) the town.
I stayed there when I lived in Colorado. I stayed in the same room Stephen King and Jim Carrey stayed in when he was filming Dumb and Dumber. It was $700 for one night. The hotel is indeed breathtaking.
Yes. I think the part about the hallways and windows, etc are just details that maybe even the movie folks didn't care to exact upon so much. Unless this has been an often talked about thing throughout the years the place being setup "wrong" or "spooky" just seemed like something movies will do knowing people won't notice or care about it. They just made the hallways and etc go the way they wanted it to be filmed.
The filming took place almost exclusively at EMI Elstree Studios, Hertfordshire, England, with sets based on real locations. Only some of the interior designs of the Overlook Hotel set were based on those of the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite National Park. Though the Timberline Lodge in Oregon served as the exterior of the Overlook Hotel for daylight shots, a complete relica was built for the snow scenes at Elstree.
Hollywood is no place for the faint of heart. Definitely not for people with good hearts. And if they do have a good heart, they need to be the type to know how to protect it.
This was wonderful! My fave detail is that the hedge maze (which was shown to be RIGHT OUTSIDE the doors of the Overlook) isn’t visible in ANY of the exterior shots. Now I know it’s because the actual hotel used didn’t have one but it adds to the jarring inconsistencies in the movie- the impossible rooms and whatnot.
The musical theme in the opening scene was also used in Symphonie Fantastique, during the Dream of Sabbath Night movement, in which witches do a satanic dance in the woods. The composer was inspired by a horrible opium-induced nightmare that he had…which kinda reminds me of the scene where Jack wakes up from a nightmare while he’s at his typewriter. Probably reading way too much into that, but isn’t that the fun of The Shining?
Dies Irae is basically “the lick” of classical music, it gets quoted a LOT, a multiple times before and after Berlioz wrote Fantastique. That being said, Fantastique might be the most notable work to quote Dies Irae, so it’s more likely than not that Kubrick knew of this
It's a testament to Kubrick's genius that he gets credit for planning and carefully setting up so many idiosyncrasies and "hidden messages," when from what I've read the shoot was tortuous and plagued with bad luck, including sets burning down. I'm sure some things were planned, but other seeming continuity errors may have been just that. Regardless, this is one of the best horror movies of all time and one of my favorites! I just grabbed a copy of the "International Edition," and I'm looking forward to watching it and comparing the differences.
I feel like I've watches or listened to every theory or Easter egg about this film. Still, I'll always come back to see if there's something new. It's really a testament to the brilliant chaos that The Shining is.
Absolutely appreciate the breakdown! If I may imply, To be noted, the room/floor layout breakdowns are inconclusive since the scenes where Danny is big-wheeling, on the 2nd story, he clearly makes a long trek down the hallway adjacent to the Colorado Lounge long enough to where the first Elevator to the left of Danny may have been just to the right of the fireplace in the Lounge. Also, as Danny rounds the left corner passing the next elevator to the right with two balcony rails on the left, looking over the Lounge, he then takes a right turn, & another right thru a corridor that seems unlit in the other scenes of the Lounge. All scenes that have both balconies visible along with the elevator. Danny makes his next right turn and continues his loop & passes his previous turn showing the balconies to the Lounge. Hence the scene is complete, not at all impossible. No tricks, just spacial awareness. The scene in which Jack enters the bathroom beyond the ballroom/bar, we see that there is a wall that both men have to either round left or right in order to enter the full bathroom. This is a privacy wall with no other doors. ( - ) As you enter you round the wall and continue in the direction you entered in as. Straight back as it where. So therefore the stalls have no contradiction to where they are in opposition to the back of the bar. Also, I have a feeling that the dry storage in which Jack was locked in, did in fact have a second door, in which was pointed out as an inconsistency during the first walk thru tour. Just thoughts and observations. Thank you, E. Duran
The shining is one of the best known mainstream films to use the concept of liminal space as a source of fear. Not dark shadowy corners, not cobwebby mansions, not an atmosphere of midnight…but brightly lit, endless corridors of loud carpeting, an empty space that should be busy, endless halls and doors…
"Endless corridors of loud carpeting"... you've just described the 70s.
I loved the sequel even more!!!
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 my high school was built in the 70s, when they thought fresh air and light would be distracting to kids…there was one tiny window about 2 ft wide and 5 ft tall at the very back of the room (which I climbed out of and onto the roof several times!)
The 70s was a dark time for architecture indeed
@@lep8622 hadn’t heard of it, I’ll have to check out Dr Sleep
@@gildedpeahen876 Ha yes, and the colors of the carpets, wallpaper, decorations etc were always like lime green, puke orange, dirty yellow, etc.. like “Sesame Street” colors.
The sound of Danny riding his bigwheel on and off the carpet has always been a powerful example of building suspense.
I watched this as a child, so at that time, I was more interested in riding one of those myself.
I saw that thinking thank pf I brew out of those
I agree!
Happyness is a warm gun Mama 👈🕊️🎶"*RIP*" John Lennon 🌷🎸
Yesssss that’s such a great point!
Rest well Shelley Duval.. ❤ you gave it your all.. and carried half the movie on fear alone… you deserved much more credit and love
She really did. Id say 90% all her. What a beautiful but tormented soul. Hope she's resting peacefully 🤍🕊
She made this movie! Without her, this would not be The Shining.
I watched the movie last night after not seeing it for years and I agree, she really didn't get the recognition she deserved.
The Shining is one of those rare movies that continues to be relevant as a person ages and gains more life experience and knowledge. Every time I watch The Shining I see connections I didn't notice when I saw it years ago as a kid. I guess that's what makes it such a great movie.
Very true. I realized watching this and the Exorcist, they are ridiculous films. This one especially. VERY campy. Should be on the level with Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Not the best movie to watch as a kid 😅
@@williamjglover That depends. I watched a Brazilian version of Jeckyl and Hyde with our best telenovela actor at the time, and it was absolutely great. I was 6, and it scared the hell out of me, especially the transformation sequence. But today I'm a complete horror geek, though, as my wife says, I'm definitely not normal... which is a plus, IMO. :P
I find I can't watch the movie anymore after reading the book and watching the mini series which is true to the book,Kubrick made a mess of the movie probably why thats the only Stephen king book he made into a movie
@@hotredhandluke1I’m the opposite I can’t enjoy the book as much anymore
Also Shelley Duvall deserved so much better, without her performance the movie wouldn't be as scary, Kubrick mistreated her
No, he pushed her to her limits. He got out of her what no other director could have!
@@zacrusk5274 Uhm no he didn't 💀 he exhausted her and made her work to her limits and then claimed she over acted, again the movie wouldn't be as scary with her "overacting"
What, by giving her the role of her lifetime?
@@neilsun2521 well he then publicly ridiculed her, she didn't get a lot of money, she didn't have a ton of roles after. Jack Nicholson got the praise which he deserved but so did Shelly and I'm sure all his comments affected that. Like I said if she didn't "over act" the movie wouldn't be as scary as it is
@@tiarasewlal7533 The horrors of being a Hollywood a-lister! She was free to get a 9-5 like the rest of us if it was really so bad.
You mentioned that when Jack finally shifts to losing his mind, he switches from wearing green at the beginning of the movie to wearing red. What you didn't mention is that Wendy does the opposite: in the beginning she's wearing red and switches to green.
I felt like the color green means the character is in touch with reality. Red means they're not. I feel like Wendy was delusional about how bad things were for her and Danny at first.
It isn't just Wendy's color choice of red, then green. Many scenes where we're supposed to see from Wendy's perspective are slightly different from when viewed from the POV of someone else in the scene with her. Wendy's shift to reality completes when she reads the "...Jack..." pages. Definitely overlapping of POV's until we finally see the entire reality of what's been happening in the climax. Not necessarily everything spelled out, but much, in not all (up to that point) are skewed by many of the characters POV
ooooh!
Of course, he’s not going to mention it. Wendy is a woman.
@@j.munday7913Green is also a 'calm color' and red is often depicted as anger. While Jack and Danny's characters are explored, Wendy still remains a bit mystery. I have yet to read the book but IMO Wendy might not have been any better than Jack in her treatment toward Danny. Not saying she was like Jack but I get the feeling she crossed the line between shooing child away for being underfoot and actual neglect. How often did Wendy spend time with Danny before everything went sideways?
The ghosts never blink, and when Jack interacts with the ghosts, he doesn’t blink either. I can see Kubrick telling them “don’t blink” just to make their lives miserable.
Totally. I’ve tried to read likes without blinking. It’s damn near impossible for me.
I also like the Thing 👀
In Silence of the Lambs, Anthony Hopkin's didn't blink either.
He did it b/c he'd read that sociopaths don't blink as much
They don't blink, because the power of the shining is like someone going into a trance or catatonic state of being.
Irl a good witch never blinks.
So, I’ve only seen this movie once, but it definitely stuck with me. It was also the first time I had seen Shelley Duvall, and man, I instantly fell in love with both the film and her. It pains me to know that Kubrick basically put her through hell just for this movie, and I think that’s why her performance in it is so terrifying and memorable, but that kind of loops on itself and makes me feel more sad for her. She was an absolute gem of a person and actress. Rest well, Shelley Duvall. You will be missed 🙏🏼❤️
To me, Jack appearing in the photo at the end just meant that the hotel had once more successfully claimed another victim.
Yeah, I hate how exaggerated the fan theories for Kubrick's movies become. Kubrick definitely did some very creative things with his movies, but there is so much retconning by fans to try and make him look like an even bigger genius than he was that it takes away from what he actually produced, in my opinion. Not everything has to be a level 100 mindbender; some pieces can just be straightforward.
Yes-but that victim then became a victim before he even existed, because the Overlook always exists. So YES, he did become a vic-err ther caretaker. But he was ALWAYS the vic-eerr the caretaker. I like this theory, because it's not a huge stretch or doesn't plot twist what you describe, but explains the whole nostalgia timeless nature etc
That doesn't fit. The deja vu like no Deja Vu ever before. You've always been here. It could mean that the picture changes according to the current Reincarnation of that person like the next person to take the bartender's place or the caretakers place will suddenly take on their appearance. Hannah thought about it like that. The whole thing is he's been there before maybe not in his current incarnation. Fun fun fun
They do to Kubrick what rap fans do to Kendrick lol.
Jack looking at the camera actually happens thought the hole movie.... It's meant to f#$k with our subconscious. (And saying in some way that we are that's ones looking at everything in the movie and hoping for thing to go bad, we are part of the ghost) There's a video here on YT with a compilation of everytime he does.
I’ve always had a fondness for the guy that says “Great party, isn’t it?”. It’s like the signal the hotel is fully powered up.
In the book, it’s Horace Derwent, the original owner of the Overlook. He was one of the ghosts that attached to Danny after he and his mother left the Overlook. The other was Mrs. Massey (the old lady in the tub, whose story was actually really sad). Danny eventually learned to trap Derwent and Mrs. Massey in his mind, thanks to Halloran (who didn’t die in the book).
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@@heathermillsphantomlimb9314 ..you know that the film and the book are only casually related, yes?
king HATES kubricks 'adaptation'
@@ProfessorToadstool he used to hate it. Absolutely. Over the years, he’s come to appreciate it for what it is, though. He’s said that in interviews and such. Either way, the ghosts and such in the movies can share the same backstories and such, even if the movie doesn’t delve into it.
I first saw this movie when I was about 7 or 8. The lady in the tub scared the living shit out of me and I was terrified of going into a bathroom with a closed shower door or curtain for years afterward.
Second time I watched it was with my ex wife and we were doing other shit the entire time, so I barely paid any attention (aside from the "HERE'S JOHNNY" part.
I decided to watch it again with my son tonight, and after watching this video I am only now realizing how fucking weird this movie really is.
One of my favourite parts was the sound of Danny’s bike going from wood to carpet to wood. It built up such a level of tension that I haven’t often seen in a film
Also the hand gestures is also ‘as above, so below’ which is a spiritual symbol for what happens above (higher realm/heaven) happens on the lower realms as well (could be earth, could be hell). Could be that it symbolises the loop of what’s happening or that the overlook is quite literally one of the circles of hell
It could. Anything could.
Yes, and also it is Right-hand Path and Left-Hand Path. Did you notice the folded piece of paper in Jack's raised hand? I seriously doubt that was an accident.
It also brings to mind the Magician from tarot! Seeing as it's a male figure focused on transformation, rebirth, and manifesting his own power, it really scraams Jack
Oh man, absolutely.. I could hear that for a couple weeks.. It was calming but also erie..
Exactly
Rest In Paradise Shelly Duvall 🙏🏾❤
If I have one criticism of this film, it's that Jack Nicholson already looks like he's about 1 hair from going insane/breaking right from the get go. I even thought that as a kid, and found him creepy and subconsciously knowing "yup, that guy is clearly going to go nuts". As always, great video.
That was the biggest problem Uncle Stevie had with Kubrick's mangling of his story. Jack was supposed to be ashamed of himself for all the stuff he put his family through when he gave in to his alcoholism.
He wasn't crazy, he was seeking redemption but the hotel got into his head.
Stephen King's version, the mini series, is very loyal to the book and I loved it. Being a big fan of King, and having read the Shining so many times, my book was worn out, I was shocked when I saw Kubrick's version, especially the end. Jack sitting there frozen with that idiotic face, was too much and I absolutely hated he called it the Shining. I like the movie but it isn't the Shining I know.
I agree, and I think he reveals this in the car on the way to the 'Overlook', with his slightly menacing parody of his son: "Hear that - he saw it on T.V."
All these years and I just realized that I don't quite like the movie, as good as it is. It's one of those fictions that is malevolent. Not good to have in my head. Perhaps that's the genius of Kubrick, but the book version has a moral quality that is lacking in the movie - in my opinion.
Either way, both versions of the story are classics in their own right.
@@smasome I do that. I will watch a movie that I later wish I could forget.
I loved Kubrick's version The King-approved version is just another in a long line of schlocky King book movies.
I read that book while trying to stay awake during night shift work and it scared the crap out of me......the moving topiary still gives me chills.
SAME!😂 I have never felt the same about topiary...😬😱😅
I can relate to both statements..years ago I worked security where you sit outside in a company car on this rich guy's property..it was all nightshift and during one snowy week I read the book there when sitting in the car with snow drifts up against the garage/ loft structure😳🥺😨...and the movie still gets to me too
Me three. I slept with the light on for a week after I read it!
The book is outstanding. Still I love the movie as much as the book.
Same with Clockwork Orange.
@@rdred8693I made a comment earlier saying the same thing. The movie is a masterpiece in terms of visuals, but the book's story is superior.
When Grady says "You've ALways been the Caretaker." So well done. That entire conversation between Jack and Grady is genius.
The changes in the body language and speech of each character as the scene progresses is subtle but effective brilliance. At the beginning Jack is cocky and standing tall, acting like he's got it all figured out, while Grady is hunched over, apologetic and submissive in his role as one of the servants. Gradually this situation reverses as Jack becomes confused and much less certain which is mirrored in his body language of shrinking away from Grady while at the same time his vocal style becomes weaker and less commanding. In contrast, Grady stands tall becomes much more of an imposing physical presence while his voice deepens and becomes far more masculine and authoritative. Superb performances from both actors and brilliantly directed of course.
It's hogwash.
The moment the character realises, he is not shure if the hallucinations are more. real than himself.
I love it when Dick Hallorann says "It's Shining Time!" and then gets murdered with an ax.
I never noticed the difference in the names before (Charles vs. Delbert). Nor did I ever really grok that if Charles Grady was Ullmans predecessor, that would have put him there in like the 1950s. Delbert Grady's mannerisms and dress seem to put him in a time long before that, as do the dresses of his two daughters. They look like something out of a British Victorian seaside resort.
A couple of years ago I went on a stint where I watched over a dozen commentaries on the movie. One of the last one I watched had a very convincing explanation. The premise was that Jack didn't really go nuts. He and his family survived. He did write a novel, a crazy novel -- the film is based on the crazy novel Jack wrote.
20:10 Whenever the model of the maze transitions into this scene of the actual maze is one of my favorite shots in cinema. It's such a seamless transition that it made me feel as if Danny and Wendy are trapped in Jack's reality (or lack thereof). For a photographer, such as myself, this image is just terrific in its composition
The book had huge topiary animals that could move when you turned away from them and give chase rather than the static maze Kubrick used in the film.
@kittenkorleone2918
Yeah man. It worked so well when Stephen king did his mini series @ about being true to the book”
It wasn’t corny and terrible at all.
The topiary animals were very scary in the authors adaption tonin screen.
@@oldironsides4107what?? When did he do this? What’s it called?
@@ElDuderinohI want to say mid to late 90s. It was a 3 part series on tv made by king.
I love your description of how the transition made you feel, to be honest it confused me first time. i actually skipped back felt like i missed something, not shure if that's what the film was trying to do, confusing you to pull unsettling/paranoid feeling or make you feel as uncertain as to what is real and what is hallucination, like the characters in the movie are dealing/ living with.
Through the use of the shinning, Danny saw through the hotels warping of reality the whole time. He was seeing everything as it was happening. He resorted to Tony, his finger puppet, to keep his mind from being manipulated. He finally went catatonic from the relentless attack. He snapped out of it with the help of Tony, and was able to warn his mother of the impending attack. That kid was a hero.
100%
Excellent analysis.
"Dr Sleep"
It isn't explained in the movie, but in the book towards the end you discover Tony is Danny from the future helping himself survive the stay at the Overlook
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Interesting.
Thanks for sharing.
Love how Paul begins all these videos with "ok" like he's sitting you down for a tough conversation
Loooooool I’ve tried to stop doing it but I can’t help myself
@@heavyspoilers never stop, its practically a staple at this point
That’s how I know it’s gonna be a deep one 😅
@@heavyspoilers can you do Explained for Infinity Pool please? That movie is so good
@@heavyspoilers it’s a fantastic start 👍🏼
Probably one of, if not the greatest performance by an actress ever. I get blown away everytime i see Shelley in this.
I feel the line "You've always been the caretaker. I should know, I've always been here." relates to the incarnation of Jack's vices. He's met the bartender, we know he's always been an alcoholic. He's met the lady in the bathroom, we know he's always been a womanizer. But there's been a murderous part of himself that has always been there though it's never manifested until now. Jack is the caretaker of his roster of vices. He's the main personality housing alcoholism, womanizing and murder. And while the first two have always been apparent, the murderous side has always been there hiding and now it's come out. Jack is the caretaker of his "three ghosts". It's like someone with multiple personalities having one of their personalities say to them: "I've always been here but you're in charge."
This makes more sense of anything I've heard about this movie.
That was an awesome assessment. That sounds like something I would come up with when I'm stoned.
Not to put the two movies in the same league but Inception is another movie that illuminates the complexities of a conflicted / fragmented personality & how it manifests into the final resolve
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So are "Shutter Island" and "The Machinist".
And, of course, my most favorite movie ever: "Fight Club".
Very interesting observations.
About jacks sobriety timeline: when Shelly is talking with the doctor she also says that jacks been sober for about 5 months, or 6 or something, but she frames it like that he stopped drinking right after he injured Danny. So when jack says he injured Danny three years ago, we just learn that it took him a while after hurting Danny to stop drinking, but it wasn’t a secret to Wendy, cuz she gave the same sobriety timeline. She just hid from the doctor the fact that jack kept drinking after hurting Danny
Yes - and that makes us, the audience, dislike her even more, because she's making excuses for Jack - and presenting Danny's abuse as a hapless accident.
@@pawdaw it never made me dislike her. I see it as someone in an abusive marriage, trying to sugar coat the situation for this person who is a mandated reporter, out of fear of losing her son to social services. Wendy and jack are both guilty of putting Danny in wildly in appropriate situations, it’s more obvious in the book I think…but still jack is the most scary and abusive, and I think Wendy makes these excuses for him out of fear of family separation, as she waffles back and forth internally about whether the marriage is worth keeping together or not
@@pawdaw do you not know what it's like to be stuck in an abusive relationship?
That’s easy to miss good catch
@pawdaw I'm not to sure about that. But it's your opinion so that's fair.👍
I believe the reason this movie was so successful was that much of it worked on the unconscious level. Much work was put into messing with the mind, sort of like gaslighting, to make the ciewer feel confused, off balance, nervous and anxious. ALL WITHOUT A SINGLE JUMP SCARE. No feeble juvenile tactics to build tension, but a masterpiece of subliminal mind !uck.
I would say the dispatching of Scatman has a bit of jump scariness to it...
@@mateosalvaje9550 you got me there! But at least there was no actual CAT jumping from the sidelines.
@@lindas5964 The old woman is jump scare 101 as well as the axe murder obviously.
@@joepermenter7228also when danny turns the hallway corner and sees the grady twins-i’d argue that’s a jumpscare. especially if you watch the whole scene.
The bathtub scene made me nervous in a way that I never experienced in a movie before
I’ve always seen the shot of Jack in the 1921 picture at the end, as the hotel taking another victim and claiming him as apart of the ghostly spirits that keep it alive. Just like Grady is now forever apart of the hotel, “I should know Mr. Torrance. I’ve always been here.”
I loved the comic timing of Jack Nicolson in the scene where he says *Here's Johnny* , truly an iconic scene indeed btw I don't understand why Shelly DuVall's performance was hated her performance was really great as a scared and mentally tormented woman.
That’s because she was actually scared and tormented. By Kubrick. It looks odd on screen because she wasn’t really acting for the most intense scenes.
Which she was, the poor thing! But she’s incredible, if she wasn’t an amazing actress she’d just be a scared woman, but she’s got such impact.
Probably because she wasn't like the young victims in most horror films especially at the time they are always sexy or at least pretty
Shelley had really tears and exhaustion Kubrick terrorized her to the point she was so stressed she was losing hair
Her performance wasn't acting she was genuinely terrified and exhausted
@@turkishcoffeeguy “wasn’t acting” is a huge stretch lmao
@@HealthyObbsession lmao no she was not. Exhausted from Kubrick’s long hours? For sure. Verbally berated multiple times? Almost definitely. Genuinely terrified and scared for her life? Nada.
Well, now I’m starting to read into the movie. For example, when Shelley asks about the “Indian paintings” we hear a real description of opposite cultures. The Navajo were viewed as peaceful and non-threatening but the Apache were feared by all tribes, including the white man. They exist as one general theme of the hotel but it’s actually two themes of the hotel, running parallel to each other. One good the other not so much. This duality idea fits into the hotel as a portal that allowed Jack the Writer to descend to Jack the Hacker.
Check out the movie Room 237 if you haven't already!
@@chucklebutt4470 i have and its a very surface-level glimpse at the meanings of the movie
The ripper
Yesssss like mirror opposites! (keeping with the theme of mirrors throughout the movie)
@@DarthBane123 True, it doesn't go into a lot of detail but it was my first introduction to the kind of wild interpretations people have of the movie!
Ultimately “The Shining” is about a haunted hotel that was built on an Indian burial ground. There are tons of references to this throughout the movie. Kubrick used multiple methods to establish an unsettling and unreal atmosphere to the film. One of the methods he used was that nothing in the background ever moved, not even trees. The only natural element that ever moved of it’s own accord was the fire in the giant fireplace. This lent a feeling of stillness and death to everything.
Also time standing still at this particularly place. Frozen in the past
What about the snow falling?
Nope
@@blahthebiste7924Ghost snow.
That’s an interesting idea I’ve never thought of before
The Shining really makes me appreciate Kubrick. I don't even care for horror films much. The way Kubrick shot, edited and designed this film makes it fantastic for me anyway. There are so many ways and layers to appreciate that you can really like it in your own way. There's no one easy path here. It's just lots of greatness.
One of my favorite scenes of this whole movie, and it actually follows the book well in this scene, is the bathroom moment with Grady. It is sooo well done and gives you this ever increasing unsettling feeling. I was so excited when I came to this scene in the book too. It's interesting because Grady actually was a gruff alcoholic like Jack, it's only after the hotel obtains Grady that he becomes this proper speaking/looking gentleman.
"I corrected them, sir." One of the most chilling lines in any horror movie ever.
❤️
Yes, one of my favorite scenes too. The actor that plays Grady was also in A Clockwork Orange, he plays Alex's dad.
The bathroom scene breaks the 180 degree rule in filmmaking, which adds even more of a disconcerting feeling to it.
@@Arkansmith The bathroom is eerily similar to the bathroom in Full Metal Jacket.
@@MrColin159no,...it isnt at all...its a hotel bathroom, compared to the latrine in a barracks.....
@@Arkansmith what's the 180 degree rule in filmmaking??
Mr. Haloran didn’t give Danny the nickname ‘Doc’; his parents did. They called Danny ‘Doc’ because he loved Bugs Bunny cartoons.
Thank you. I noticed that too.
That’s right
With Bugs Bunny being another Warner Brothers property
Came to say the same
thought it was duck lol
The scrapbook that Jack has open on his writing desk was a big plot point in the book. It contained the news clippings of all the events that went on in the hotel's history. Jack would spend hours pouring over it in the basement while he kept a watch on the boiler. "She creeps."
That seemed to go on forever in the book.
Interesting point, just read up on some deleted scenes that show Jack with the notebook a lot more. Even the extended version just shows it in one shot I think.
Jacks comment about "white mans burden", wasnt about white guilt. The bartender was pouring him a drink, he was referring to alcohol, which has been called the "white mans burden" for more than a century - because it was the burden that white man put on the natives. Its not referring to a burden the white man carries, its referring to burden the white man GAVE to natives. I grew up on the outskirts of an Indian reservation in a small town, and having alcoholics in the family, I heard that term many many times. Honestly, Occam's razor would have solved this... he's literally saying it as he's looking at the drink.
Thank you. I facepalmed so hard hearing him say that.
I disagree. 'The White Man's Burden', can be looked up on Wikipedia easily. The color red is significant throughout the film. The building was built upon Native Burial Grounds, has a blood-red themed elevator (elevators also go down), and the Hotel itself has a history of murders/murderers.
"White Man's Burden" is from Kipling.
Take up the White Man's burden-
Send forth the best ye breed-
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
It's not about alcohol, it's about colonialism.
'White man's burden' has no reference to America. It's Kipling about the British Empire.
This also corresponds with the idea that the a subtext in the film is the subjection of the native American
One of those movies you can watch 100 times and find something new every watch...love it..
Feel for Shelly
Watching the shining is a tradition in my house. I watch it. When we have our first big snow of the year!!!
I do the same with A CHRISTMAS STORY every Xmas..and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO TURN IT OFF..it runs 24 hrs 🤣🤣🤣
@@Tina-de3fq My favorite movie and I watch it for those 24 hrs!!!! 😅😅
y'll need to get a life then lol
@@MadinaTall-f9w y’all this is our life 😳😩🫢😬🤗🤭
@@MadinaTall-f9w I got one! It continues AFTER 24 hrs of the movie 🍿🎥 Lol!
Thanks for covering that window in Ullman's office, I remember watching the movie in my teens and feeling so unsettled by that scene, but I couldn't pinpoint WHY it left me that way. Everything you went into about the impossible layout and the unconventional use of light in the film, makes perfect sense.
The ciggarette in the ashtray appears and disappears throughout that scene as well .
Thats Calumet baking Powder. My grandma used it all the time. It was in everyone's cabinet
The reason Danny is called Doc is clearly explained in the movie, and the"twins" are credited as Grady's daughters at the end.
And halloran knew he was nicknamed doc by his parents too
Stephen King has written short stories that have kept me up at night . He's brilliant at grasping the imagination and bringing out every dark thing hiding in it. He makes your mind go boo and you shudder at every turn of the page .
There is a great scene when Jack and the family are being taken on a tour of the hotel.There’s a man cleaning a cabinet or something and he is dressed exactly like Jack when he tries to murder everyone.The interesting thing is when Jack walks past the man he looks over at him and then starts limping.Check it out,.I Love iT!..X
Directors like Kubrick have the best job in the world. Everyone assumes they're such geniuses that even mistakes get settled in people's minds as something so deep and layered that we just don't understand
Looooool
Well, Kubrick did a lot of research and really enjoyed the process. He worked hard to create those little layers
@heavyspoilersnice list Godfather&The Thing great movies have you seen They Live by carpenter has a thing feel to it,You could throw Taxi Driver & just about anything by Hitchcock on list as well.
genius is knowing which mistakes to leave in.. ;)
@@ButeSound absolutely
I've always known the skeleton scene. I always believed it meant Wendy was finally able to see the hotel in it's truest form but could be wrong. Yes, if you've never seen it before it could be a little jarring, I'd imagine.
Exactly, she is finally seeing the things her husband and son have been seeing. The building is revealing it's self to her.
@@GreasySwayzebut that’s not the true form of the Hotel. The police searched the Overlook and they found nothing. The Hotel is not showing it’s true form, it’s scaring them into insanity with illusions while feeding off their fear and pain.
@@GreasySwayzein the books, that’s basically what the hotel does. Obviously, the movie didn’t have enough time to delve into it, but it slowly revealed itself as it went along. At first, she’d just notice little things, like confetti in the floor of the elevator. After a while, the elevator’s started moving on their own, she’d hear laughter and voices talking about a party in the hallways, and it was actively trying to keep Danny (and her) inside so Jack could kill him/them (the hedge animals surrounded the exits, elevators stopped working, etc.) In the movie, I think the hotel was just showing her a bit of what it really was to scare her and feed off her negative emotions.
I was pretty shocked that Doctor Sleep wasn't a bigger hit. Fantastic film.
I thought that movie was great aswell...underrated for sure!! Many hidden undertones...
Totally under rated and good as a stand alone as well
My exact same thoughts. Criminally underrated.
Sleep didn’t really feel scary. It was basically an action flick
As I remember it, the shining wasn't a big hit either....at least not at first.
I honestly like how different the book and movie are from each other. It’s two completely different stories in my opinion, they are both great.
Absolutely agree with you.. I'm not a Kubrick fan, still don't understand Eyes Wide Shut, but The Shining is brilliant...
@@Swnsasyi feel ya. im not a Tarantino fan. but pulp fiction was great
@@carbine090909 Have you seen From Dusk to Dawn? That's the first movie I had ever heard of QT and still on my list of movies I can watch over and over of 5.
My son, now 29, was 6mths old and I loved George Clooney so thought, HELL YEA, SEXY MAN, he's a bad guy robber and action.... I was shocked, loved, loved the absolute nobody saw it coming. That's when I started watching his movies.. I love majority of his movies, BUT, I also see him as a Rob Zombie director, who btw I learned who he was from his song in the movie Matrix.. I'm a black woman, yes but I love hard rock, some metal, alternative, grunge than my hip hop so yea, friends call me a Rocker.. What do you think of Rob movies?
Anyway, what I mean by QT & Rob is that they are predictable in a specific genre
Finally... I've literally never seen anyone say this about anything lol
The mini tv show its great too!! The woman of the rooms 2 3 7 in that show scare me so much when I was a child...
It's overkill on all the little things that most people never noticed anyhow. This is one of my favorite movies of my lifetime. A legend.
@emanon9 at least I can speak on topics other than people like small minded troll 🧌
Right but forget about the movie how about I'll eat it from the back and make you get goosebumps
The Stanley Hotel is in Estes Park, Colorado, not Boulder. It has super creepy stories. Some celebrities have stories to tell.
Indeed it is thank you for pointing that out, it bothered the crap out of me when he said that haha. Someone forgot to do through research. 😂
I watched this yesterday after originally seeing it in a theater in 1980. I like how Danny leaves his kitchen hiding place to draw Jack outside. Danny then again reveals himself to Jack and runs into the maze, with Jack following. Danny takes control and leads Jack to his death outside the hotel, which is perhaps significant.
Significant, indeed. He may have only been trying to evade, but...
I imagine that, regardless of intent, patricide would certainly compound the haunting effects of any prior events.
I bet you didn't notice the entrance to the maze had moved! I never did.
When Wendy leaves Danny at the table watching Roadrunner to go talk to Jack, the song on the TV says, "his idea of fun" at the time she walks away. Then she picks up the bat, slowly, like she doesn't want Danny to notice. But I think Danny has had the idea to overcome Jack at that moment and is telling his mother to take the bat.
The shining, the thing and silence of the lambs are my top three! It’s interesting that we can watch this movie over and over and have such different take away from it. To me the movie is actually three movies tied into one.
Know who else did the as above so below pose? George Washington
It's like the roadrunner leading the coyote to his demise. Beep beep,blip
just a note on the steadicam you mentioned. Brown (who invented the steadicam) had sent kubrick a sizzle reel of him using the rig as well as film he'd shot with it asking for feedback. kubrick said that he has a film in mind where he would love to use it but asked if it could go lower and almost hover over the ground. brown then adjusted the steadicam as per his request and thats how we got the shots of danny on his bike riding around the hotel.
I think it’s heartbreaking how bad Shelley Duvall was treated during the filming of the shining & how her life turned out.. honestly she made the shining, Ik Steven king said he didn’t picture shelly for the role & the Kubrick guy treated her awful.. But really her character & acting made the shining a cult classic.. I’ve often thought more about the shining theory of Danny being ab*sed by his father (which is probably the most common explanation). But the shining of those movies that could have so many different meanings & the writers never wanted to truly explain it all because they didn’t want to ruin the audience’s imagination, I think that’s why these films also turn into cult classics because it’s so careful done to lead the audience with multiple conclusions, multiple theories. These movies lead a memorable impression of everyone years later still obsessing/ & theorizing over the film. It’s really an amazing psychological thriller, not just the movie but the audience’s reaction to the movie..
Not sure why but the part of this movie that haunts me the most from when i was a kid is danny saying "red rum" and shelly seeing it written on the mirror. I literally hear it in my head every once in a while. This is a great movie.
I can hear it now. 😱
It wasn't written on the mirror. It was written on the wall. She saw the reflection in the mirror which showed it backwards. Revealing redrum is murder spelled backwards.
covid vaccine @@JoeOvercoat
My favorite scene is when Wendy visits Jack in the big, empty room where he is supposed to be writing his book. This is the first time Wendy and the audience get a glimpse of Jack becoming insane. Shelley Duvall and Jack Nicholson were amazing together.
I like that scene and noticed the chair behind Jack kept disappearing.
I noticed today that in that scene, the first view from faraway has Jack sitting in front of the staircase, which looks pretty dark on my TV, and above it there is a crown shaped light hanging and together they kind of look like the monolith with the sun over it in 2001.
@@watermelonlalala wow pretty cool. I'm going to have to look at that scene again.
The filming process made her physically ill, kubrick put her under so much strain as he wanted the very best out of her ....
@@JimmyJ1983 I also read that Kubrick was known for many re-takes which meant really long days for the actors/actresses. But besides the physical strain put on the crew, it seems like Nicholson and Duvall liked and respected Kubrick.
Danny riding over the carpet and then the hard wood floor could also sound like the hotels heartbeat
I'm in the opinion that pretty much everyone in the film has the Shining. The hotel attracts them like a magnet.
Wendy has it, but it only works when she is afraid. Note the line where Jack says she's a horror movie buff.
So when she's freaking out she Shines the Overlook into a haunted house full of skeletons and spider webs.
In doctor sleep, Danny explains that most people have shinning, but to a very weak degree and without knowing it's the shinning.
He uses as examples husbands who come home with flowers when their wives coincidentally are sad, or when sometimes someone does well on a test even without having studied.
So I think that's a very valid theory.
In the book it's explained that Wendy has it a bit because she's a mother and I guess most mother's shine a bit and the novel also heavily implies Jack shines too but he's so broken as a person and has shoved it away so much that he isn't aware of it nor can he actively use it. I really do highly recommend reading the book cuz it actually answered a lot of questions I've always had about the movie. You even find out who the people are in the scene with the dogman.
Not quite.
According to King, all mother's shine a lil.
Mother's intuition.
@@lio1788 But remember people with really strong Shine.
Like telekinesis end up going crazy.
Jack didn't have it. That's why he was easy for the hotel to control.
Definitely , I am sure that anybody who has had an alcoholic in their family knows that when a person is drunk they act like exactly as if they were possessed by some sort of evil power. It manifests either when they are drunk, or when they try to convince everyone why they need to drink more.
That’s where the word spirits come from when u drink spirits it kinda possess u
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Because they are
...it's just the alcohol talkin'.
Years ago a good friend of mine says, "I hate quitters. I quit one time. Worst 20 minutes of my life."
RIP Joel. No one could ever fill your shoes....
If this much fuss was put to the task, I bet they could figure out who shot president John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Obviously someone knows because they pulled the trigger. They could still be alive.
Shine on you crazy diamond, give us all you got, show us the shining one more time......
Yes. The drink is the key to him turning evil in here too.
I don’t know about anyone else but I’ve been using these videos as a book club for movies I haven’t seen and some I want to revisit. Thanks Paul!
Ah thanks so much, glad you’re enjoying us going back to older films
Me too thanks Paul!
Me too!!!!
Whhhhhhaaaaaa!?!? You've never seen the shining? You may be in for a treat.
I watch the breakdowns for movies I haven't seen and decide if it sounds like it's worth watching. Or revisit old favorites
I remember daring myself to watch the movie, even though I was terrified, but I ended up loving it. That led me to buying the book which I loved even more. Still one of my favorite books of all time.
I think the Overlook Hotel is like the monkey's paw in that it gives each person who enters it what they want, but always in a twisted fashion. Recall Danny told Wendy he wanted someone to play with in Boulder; now he gets the twins saying, "come play with us, Danny." Wendy is a confirmed ghost story and horror film addict, so now she gets the full horror story treatment, complete with cheesy skeletons. Jack wanted a second chance and to be respected for his achievements, so the hotel gloms onto that and gives him the "mission" of killing his son. I'm not sure what Dick Halloran wants--maybe he's special because he can resist the hotel's attempts to tempt him. BTW, in addition to the nude photos in the boiler room, there's instructions on how to help someone who is choking--and someone chokes Danny around this time. One question I do have is what is the significance of the little piece of paper Jack is holding in his hand when he's in the Baphomet pose in the 1921 picture at the end of the film--some kind of magic spell, maybe?
Not only was someone choking Danny they were nude also.
I really enjoyed reading this comment. No sarcasm.
I always thought when Jack says Wendy is a ghost and horror film addict, he was clearly lying, to reassure the manager. Wendy is passive and easily scared and Jack knows if she knew the truth, she wouldn't go anywhere near the place.
Perhaps his soul contract now that he's been claimed and the dept paid?
His contract with Satan?
I love when people do a deep dive into Kubrick’s movie’s. There’s a lot more going on when you really analyze each scene. Kubrick was a master
He was also extremely difficult to work under and his attention to detail to his vision was borderline insanity.
@@UberStarFkr - although plenty of people loved working with him; for many it was a career highlight. Malcolm McDowell only wishes he could have been in another Kubrick film. Kubrick got on with Peter Sellers so well he cast him five times in two films. Leon Vitali quit acting after Barry Lyndon to be Kubrick's full-time assistant. Jack Nicholson never had a bad word to say. Lee Ermey said he had no problems working with Kubrick because unlike SOME actors he knew all his lines.
I am absolutely addicted to "The Shining."
I saw it in the 80's when it first came out and after it came out on video I revisit it every year and sometimes twice a year!
Despite the fact that the movie "sits" in one location: the Overlook,
each plot scene is unpredictable because Kubrick was a genius.
While it must have been difficult for the actors,
Kubrick knew how to expand the consciousness of the audience and the context of each scene.
By the end of the movie, one can almost "smell" the Overlook as one watches the movie.
No movie that I know has ever done this!
Kubrick burner account
I spent one night in Timberline Lodge back in the Winter of 1995-1996 with my USCSA Skiing/Snowboarding Team for our post-Nationals post-season retreat on Mt. Hood. We stayed at the Reed College Ski Cabin in Government Camp for three nights prior to being at Timberline, and then we did our last night of our retreat at Silcox Hut up on Palmer Glacier.
It was our BEST retreat, and being SUCH a HUGE fan of The Shining and of Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick, it was SO AMAZING to be at the location where so much of the movie takes place.
It was a COMPLETE TRIP to be there.
I met one of the Women in that picture,she was a resident at these apartments I worked maintenance at.
She had the photo hung up in her living room,she seemed very proud to be part of this.
Nope. Too soon. Maybe just me? But if I walked into a room to *that* photo and someone starts like, 'look there I am...', I'm not hanging around for the story
Dang! She and you were very Lucky indeed! I’d love to have a picture like hers!
Jack Nicholson is such a phenomenal actor. His career is littered with so many sensational performances.
He is. Love him in he bucket list, something's got to give, & one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
If you look closely at the girls in the hallway you can see they’re NOT twins and could have easily been two years apart in age, making it entirety possible that they are indeed Grady’s children.
They were twins in real life. I think everyone might be misinterpreting what he said. Maybe he didnt mean they were "8 *and* 10". He was guessing their age as twins being *around* 8 and 10? He wasnt sure.
@gravityslave6277 except he very clearly says, "I think about 8 and 10." Which is their ages in the book as they are not twins. You can also tell when they stand next to each other they are different heights
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Then they wouldnt be twins would they? Looked it up. They were just sisters of 8 and 10 in the book. Kubrick cast twins and made them twins. So what ever
@gravityslave6277 that response makes absolutely no sense based on what either of us said
@@airduke13
I'll help you with the tough part sport. The book says that they were 8 and 10 separately. They were just referred to as "sisters". Remember I said I just looked it up. (That part you're correct).
But Stanley Kubrick meant for them to be *IDENTICAL TWINS* for the movie to add a creepy factor. That means they should be the *SAME* age. That's how twins work.
(FYI...the girls were actual twins in real life. Both 12 years old.)
Yet he (Kubrick) allowed/forgot that book line to still be put in the movie script for character Stuart Ullman even though it contradicted his movie adaptation for having *twins* in the role. Twins can't be different ages. So that line doesn't make sense.
Get it? Take aspirin for any headaches.
For all the scary scenes, Delbert telling Jack he’s always been the caretaker was terrifying.
I can’t think of another movie that has this complete unsettling eeriness.
Yes, whatever ghosts lurking in your soul will make themselves known.
Excellent breakdown. I never noticed the similarity between Baphomet and Nicholson’s pose in the 1921 picture. That raises questions about how much Kubrick’s imagery in “The Shining” is intertwined with his later occult imagery in “Eyes Wide Shut,” which has several references to Satanism, Babylonian paganism and Freemasonry.
I believe that pose references the saying "As above, so below".
Mediterranean death cultists who practice the occult every day while asserting their hatred of the occult are highly amusing.
It's funny when they pretend to know what they're talking about.
Death cultists are the best entertainment
Devil is not a Creator but a deceiver, father of lies. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven is God's train of thought. No surprise he copied that, but not just, he inverted it- it should actually be "As below, so above." But that would sell as well...
@@kreigalm7381 He mimics everything God does, poorly. ♥🙏
Kubrick was an occultist and he shows it in his movies. The higher ups didn’t like what he showed in “ Eyes Wide Shut” and had him knocked off. ( satanic rituals etc)
I've been in an empty, closed down hotel. It was a weird energy that made it impossible not to think of this movie.
rip shelley ❤ she and the rest of the cast were real troopers for still getting the movie done despite the harsh set.
One piece of criticism King had for the movie that I totally agree with: the way they did the father was wrong, in that it makes the character crazy for most or even the whole time he's at the hotel, rather than having it be a slow decline to insanity. Jack Torrence is supposed to be a regular guy at the beginning-a recovering alcoholic, with a dark past, but not actually insane. He goes insane through the slow torture of the hotel, which is something else the movie kinda does poorly. There aren't really a whole lot of incidents that precipitate his madness in the movie; they basically move in and he's staring like a zombie out the window with no context behind it...we're just supposed to accept, and say "oh, ok...I guess Jack is full-on crazy now."
I agree too. Its also not obvious the hotel is more than just haunted in the film or that the hotel wanted Danny. In the book its explicitly explained. I also hate the choice to kill Hallorann or leave out the hedge animals.
King can hold his breathe till he's blue in the face for
" hating" Kubricks version, but in all honesty Stanley Kubrick's The Shining made Stephen King a house hold name.
In the book Jack wasn’t the one who went crazy it was like the Overlook was wearing Jack as a mask and slowly controlling his body and using him to get to Danny and become stronger. The real Jack was long dead before he did any harm. The book is very sad tbh
@@mo3bo Especially considering at the end Jack was able to break through and say goodbye.
Yes. I totally agree with that. They didn’t give jack a slow character development. He just went crazy right off. I kinda didn’t like the movie just cuz of that tbh.
I think the shape of the hotel shot jumping to the ladder shot is supposed to imply the shape of a teepee. The hotel is evil because it’s on a Native American burial ground, that’s canon from the book. Also, it’s implied in the book that because the hotel is alive, the hotel can “move” or “shapeshifter,” hence the appearance/disappearance of different hallways, rooms, doors throughout the movie.
Yeah, the whole Native American burial ground is the thing that ruined King's story for me. Most tribes would leave the body to naturally decompose in a tree or on a funeral platform, or by leaving an opening in the burial chamber so the spirit could escape, not below ground like the book implies for a hotel to built upon.
The indian burial ground thing is just in the movie. Its not in the book
I'm native so Indian burial grounds just don't scare me at all..if anything I'm afraid of white man burial ground...just kidding but trust me indians aren't scary.
@@SmartCookie2022I like that you wrote that comment acting like you’ve read the book when you clearly havent, if you had youd know the Indian burial ground plot point was put in by Kubrick just for the movie and had nothing to do with Stephen Kings book….
Yeah different shots with furniture disappearing then reappearing,lights to
I like how Kubrick managed to incorporate so many elements into his movies. He really stands out as possibly the greatest director of all time. There is a layer in The Shining that often goes overlooked (no pun intended) and that is that Jack is not only abusive towards his son, but also his wife. You can actually watch the whole movie as a metaphor for the tyrannical husband. Every frame a painting, this is a masterpiece.
the scene in which Jack explores Room 237 and finds a nude woman is not a literal event, but Danny’s repressed version of the molestation as he communicates it telepathically to Dick Hallorann. (Remember that during that scene, there are intermittent shots of a trembling Danny and a horrified Hallorann.) The Room 237 scene is the fire truck scene, viewed through Hallorann’s mind as he “shines” it from Danny, who has repressed the literal events. In this repressed version, Danny has been replaced with Jack, and Jack has been replaced by the “crazy lady.”
For evidence, consider the many parallels between the Room 237 scene and the fire truck retrieval scene. Both scenes take place in rooms with the same layout. Both scenes involve an entrant progressing through the layout and seeing someone unexpected-Danny sees Jack awake, Jack sees a woman in the bathtub. Next, this unexpected person makes the same exact motion: Jack’s “come here” gesture to Danny is exactly the same as the bathtub woman’s moving away the curtain. Then, the entrant approaches the unexpected person and the two interact: Danny sits on Jack’s lap, Jack embraces the nude woman.
The fire truck scene cuts here, but we can infer from the Room 237 scene what happens next. In that scene, Jack, after embracing the young woman, sees the woman rotting in the mirror, and he recoils in horror. Symbolically, this is what happens to Danny: he readily approaches his father and then, upon being assaulted, realizes the repulsive side to the initially appealing figure.
There’s a mirror at the foot of Jack’s bed that Kubrick emphasizes with fancy camerawork in multiple scenes. Danny would have seen his own molestation in this mirror, which is why in the Room 237 scene Jack first sees the ugliness of the woman in a mirror. There’s also an editing choice toward the end of the Room 237 scene that shows the old woman rising from the bathtub, which is odd given that our first sight of the woman was as a young woman, not old. This represents Danny’s realization that the figure he approached (his father) was evil all along-that his initially favorable impression of his father was incorrect.
The old woman rising from the bathtub therefore represents Jack waking up from his nap as an ugly, evil person. The shot only comes late in the scene because Danny only realizes too late that he was fooled by his father’s reassuring demeanor.
The brief scene in which an unseen presence rolls a ball toward Danny while he plays with cars is the initiation of Danny’s telepathic communication to Hallorann. Danny is noticeably missing his fire truck in this scene, an indication that his entering Room 237 represents his entering his apartment to retrieve the toy. The scene cuts as Danny enters Room 237 because at this point Danny begins to repress the events; when we next see Room 237, Danny, in his “shining” rendition of events, has replaced himself with his father, and has altered and repressed the sequence as previously described.
So Jack indeed inflicted the bruises on Danny’s neck during the off-screen molestation. Jack denies this to Lloyd, but he does so right before exclaiming that the last time he hurt his son was “three goddamn years ago,” demonstrating that at this time he is personifying his “past” 1920s-30s incarnation, and his recounting doesn’t apply.
Danny attempts to deal with the traumatic event in various ways, firstly by creating the childlike story that his aggressor was a “crazy lady in one of the rooms” and secondly by succumbing completely to Tony. As the psychologist had deduced earlier, Tony had helped Danny to cope with prior violence from his father. Now, as the harm from his father escalates, so does Danny’s reliance on Tony.
The final question to be answered about the Room 237 scene is: why, if it’s Danny’s psychological invention, does it feature such adult content? The answer is that Hallorann also influences what we see, since he receives the vision. He sees Danny’s “crazy lady” fabrication through his own personal lens. Note the two conspicuous pictures of naked women on Hallorann’s bedroom walls immediately before he “shines” the scene from Danny. It makes sense that the molestation as visualized by Hallorann would feature nudity, rather than fatherly love, as the initial “attractor.”
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The 237 scene can be watched, therefore, as a blend between 1) the actual event of Jack molesting Danny, 2) Danny’s childish coping story, and 3) Hallorann’s adult perspective. Truly an original, complex piece of filmmaking that demands even more analysis than I have room for here.
@@alexanderdumas-Alexandrey Dum-as…………..Dumbass……….🤣
Sorry, I saw your screen name and had to throw that line in from another King film. Lol
@@alexanderdumas-you need to publish this lmao
You've only scratched the surface of that next layer
@@Somethingelse345 And that is why I love Kubrick so much. The world needs more like him, especially today.
I INSTANTLY recognized the Mt Hood Timberline hotel at 0:36 (i grew up in Oregon), and i NEVER had any idea The Shining used it as the exterior shots of the hotel in the movie (its actually a ski/snowboard resort) as ive never actually seen it past the bloody intro. Thats wild, i actually broke my back on Mt Hood a few years back while snowboarding
Even if the impossible rooms with doors that lead nowhere, was unintentional, when I watched the movie at a friend's house, I noticed some of the sets made an actual floor plan & that was one of the two things that gave me chills. I thought it was part of the hotel being a living breathing entity, churning & changing so that a door could take you into a ballroom, a hallway or a suite, The other thing that made me shiver was when Jack looks over the model of the maze and sees his wife & Danny in the maze, The elevator door unleashing a river of blood, room 237, most of the hallmarks & scenes most people found terrifying didm't really scare me. Okay, Scatman getting hit with the axe was frightening, but primarily it was a jump-scare.
Absolutely loved this! Every time I see anything on this movie I realize I had no business watching this as a kid 🤭
So true! We grew up watching some of the wildest things. Probably why modern movies have no effect on us, other than thinking most of them suck and are just remakes.
Creeped me out as an adult.
Saaammmmeeeee!
Me and the kids found a vcr tape in a fleamarket and unfortunately watched Terrorvision. Which I highly recommend 10/10. The kids never forgot it. I'm a bad mom.😁
As a kid growing up in the 70’s early 80’s this movie had me terrified and is still one of my favorites
I’m a 90s kid and this movie made me shit my pants lol
I was born in the 2000s and I was terrified when I watched as a kid too lol. For some reason the dog/bear mask scene always scared me the most.
@@okquentinshits real freaky
Same!
The fact this movie is scary isnt because of the main characters its the ghostly characters and also the LIMINAL SPACES this place had and is its an amazingly curious place to explore yet creepy at the same time
I saw The Shining when it hit theaters. I was just a couple of weeks off of turning 12. My mom hid her face for half of it, but when she tried to cover MY eyes, I squirmed away and ran down to sit closer to the screen. I was hooked. It's been my favorite movie since then. I'm 54 now, and have ZERO regrets. I feel like I got to grow up learning the ins and outs of Kubrick's genius along with the rest of the world. The 1980 US release was impeccable. I can't come close to imagining what more Stanley would have done with the Shining given time and budget.
He'd still have Shelley doing retakes. Lol
Your the same age as me 54 and I have to say growing up in the 70,s and 80,s is like no other. The movies the music, the childhood freedom, and the fast foods tasted way, way, better!!!! 😜😜😜🤪🤪👍👍🇨🇦😇
I feel sorry for Shelley and Scatman for the number of takes both were either on the verge a mental breakdown or were so worn-out that they collapsed after multiple reshoots yes I consider this one of Shelley's best roles but she went through hell for the right to call herself the safest horror movie mom ever
You have to wonder why they didn't just refuse. What was Kubrick going to do, fire them?
I'm not sure I feel sorry for them....from what I've read (and in some "making of" video clips you can see it) shelley was being annoying and childish....and scatman was Known for being TOTALLY unprepared for whatever shooting he was to do on any given day on any given movie....not knowing his lines etc
....so maybe it was Kubricks passive aggressive way of getting back at them??
or of actually Forcing a decent performance out of them??
in a behind the scenes interview scatman said it was tears of joy
@@manuelkong10 have you watched Vivian Kubricks Documentary on the Making of?
Kubrick was a Dick to her. It's apparent
It was intended.
Doc was Danny's nickname before he met Halloran. That's why Wendy asks him how he knew his nick name was Doc, and it foreshadows his and Danny's ability to communicate telepathically. I'm in Canada and we never had the skeleton scene either, at least in my area. When I saw it recently I started laughing, doesn't fit with the movie at all. Great video 👍🏻
When I graduated high school I wore a John Lennon Shine On t shirt under my cap & gown. Once the ceremony was done I removed the ensemble and took most photos sporting Shine On. Many many moons after the song was written it still shines now ❤
I remember seeing this as a kid and so much of it stuck with me. I wouldn't say it was horrifying, but the overall creepiness of it all was something i never shook and still sits in the corners on my mind
This film is so special to me because no matter how many reviews, analysis and even watch the movie itself. I always learn and discover something new. And i still dont get the movie but man i love it
This movie was freaking spectacular from every angle imaginable !!! Both Shelley and Jack Nicklson were absolutely fabulous !!!! This was one of the BEST Movies I've ever seen in my life !!!!
The sound effects & music make it an epic horror film.
22:46 The hotel feeds on the shining. Dick wasn't trying to mislead Danny. For Halloran the ghosts are like pictures and scenes but not able to touch him. Danny has much more power than Dick so the Overlook is capable of actually interacting with him and his surroundings.
With The Shining being one of my favorite movies, I’ve seen tons of breakdown videos. Nevertheless, I ALWAYS learn of new theories and conspiracies. Thanks for another great video!
Did you watch the "shone" video?!
@@Ricardo-cl3vs I think I might have..lemme go rewatch
A point was made that the background and rooms were well lit as compared to typical horror films. I found it odd that all lights were on which would be impractical and expensive, rather than have a moderate portion of the hotel’s lights on for three people. But the fact that all lights in the hotel were on indicates that there are more than three beings present.
The first time I was at the Timberline Lodge I hadn’t seen The Shining so it didn’t have an impact on me. Kind of wish I’d seen the movie first!
Another anachronism: "Midnight, and the Stars, and You" was released in 1934. The GoldbRoom crowd was grooving tona song that didn't exist yet!
I haven’t seen a video that mentions it (though I’m sure there is one), but it seems conceivable that the two girls also had the Shine, which would explain why they didn’t like the hotel to the point of trying to burn it down. It would also reinforce the idea of the Shine being a hereditary trait shared by Mr. Grady and his daughters, which is why they are all still there. The daughters may just be stuck in “Overlook Purgatory” and really do want Danny (and Tony) to stay and play with them because they’ve had nobody their age at the hotel with the Shine before. There may be no sinister intentions from the girls, just a high creepy factor. Maybe it’s in the novel, which I read so many years ago I can’t remember. I prefer the film to the novel, which may be a unique instance for me, as I can’t think of any other case of a film being better than the book (for my tastes).
Jaws. My favorite movie. Definitely not my favorite book.
Shawshank, funny enough also written by King, a novella though
One other point that supports the Native American take on The Shining is Danny’s clever trick of walking backwards in his own tracks in the snow while being pursued by Jack. This was purportedly a trick employed by Native Americans to throw off a pursuit. (Also, one small point, the Stanley Hotel is located in Estes Park, not Boulder, which is about an hour’s drive away. Estes Park is the entry point of Rocky Mountain Natl. Park.)
Thank you, I was going to bring this up that the Stanley is in Este Park. I have been there and it is a beautiful hotel.
The Stanley Hotel is actually located in Estes Park, Colorado, around an hour north of Boulder. It’s breathtaking when you first drive up and see the hotel on a hill overlooking (😉) the town.
I stayed there when I lived in Colorado. I stayed in the same room Stephen King and Jim Carrey stayed in when he was filming Dumb and Dumber. It was $700 for one night. The hotel is indeed breathtaking.
Yes. I think the part about the hallways and windows, etc are just details that maybe even the movie folks didn't care to exact upon so much. Unless this has been an often talked about thing throughout the years the place being setup "wrong" or "spooky" just seemed like something movies will do knowing people won't notice or care about it. They just made the hallways and etc go the way they wanted it to be filmed.
The filming took place almost exclusively at EMI Elstree Studios, Hertfordshire, England, with sets based on real locations. Only some of the interior designs of the Overlook Hotel set were based on those of the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite National Park. Though the Timberline Lodge in Oregon served as the exterior of the Overlook Hotel for daylight shots, a complete relica was built for the snow scenes at Elstree.
Warning: does not come with Hedge Maze, which was constructed solely for the movie.
@@SmartCookie2022. I thought it was in Estes Park?
Hollywood is no place for the faint of heart. Definitely not for people with good hearts. And if they do have a good heart, they need to be the type to know how to protect it.
This was wonderful! My fave detail is that the hedge maze (which was shown to be RIGHT OUTSIDE the doors of the Overlook) isn’t visible in ANY of the exterior shots. Now I know it’s because the actual hotel used didn’t have one but it adds to the jarring inconsistencies in the movie- the impossible rooms and whatnot.
The entire atmosphere and ambiance of this film is mesmerizing. It's still a chilling experience everytime I watch it. Masterclass.
The musical theme in the opening scene was also used in Symphonie Fantastique, during the Dream of Sabbath Night movement, in which witches do a satanic dance in the woods. The composer was inspired by a horrible opium-induced nightmare that he had…which kinda reminds me of the scene where Jack wakes up from a nightmare while he’s at his typewriter. Probably reading way too much into that, but isn’t that the fun of The Shining?
Dies Irae is basically “the lick” of classical music, it gets quoted a LOT, a multiple times before and after Berlioz wrote Fantastique. That being said, Fantastique might be the most notable work to quote Dies Irae, so it’s more likely than not that Kubrick knew of this
@@SpudboyDan Although the Shining's version is a bit more closer to Fantastique with the repeated Bb at the end of the 'solvet saeclum in favilla'.
It's a testament to Kubrick's genius that he gets credit for planning and carefully setting up so many idiosyncrasies and "hidden messages," when from what I've read the shoot was tortuous and plagued with bad luck, including sets burning down. I'm sure some things were planned, but other seeming continuity errors may have been just that. Regardless, this is one of the best horror movies of all time and one of my favorites! I just grabbed a copy of the "International Edition," and I'm looking forward to watching it and comparing the differences.
The story is about a boy who is a sensitive, and you’re right. Jack was also a sensitive, and it made him vulnerable to the spirits in the hotel.
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Thanks for that.
He absolutely was NOT!
Yes and being a drinker like his character was it made it easier for the hotel to manipulate him into doing the evil things he did
I feel like I've watches or listened to every theory or Easter egg about this film. Still, I'll always come back to see if there's something new. It's really a testament to the brilliant chaos that The Shining is.
Absolutely appreciate the breakdown!
If I may imply,
To be noted, the room/floor layout breakdowns are inconclusive since the scenes where Danny is big-wheeling, on the 2nd story, he clearly makes a long trek down the hallway adjacent to the Colorado Lounge long enough to where the first Elevator to the left of Danny may have been just to the right of the fireplace in the Lounge. Also, as Danny rounds the left corner passing the next elevator to the right with two balcony rails on the left, looking over the Lounge, he then takes a right turn, & another right thru a corridor that seems unlit in the other scenes of the Lounge. All scenes that have both balconies visible along with the elevator.
Danny makes his next right turn and continues his loop & passes his previous turn showing the balconies to the Lounge.
Hence the scene is complete, not at all impossible.
No tricks, just spacial awareness.
The scene in which Jack enters the bathroom beyond the ballroom/bar, we see that there is a wall that both men have to either round left or right in order to enter the full bathroom.
This is a privacy wall with no other doors. ( - ) As you enter you round the wall and continue in the direction you entered in as.
Straight back as it where.
So therefore the stalls have no contradiction to where they are in opposition to the back of the bar.
Also, I have a feeling that the dry storage in which Jack was locked in, did in fact have a second door, in which was pointed out as an inconsistency during the first walk thru tour.
Just thoughts and observations.
Thank you,
E. Duran
This video really solidified The Shinning as my favorite movie of all time.
Overlapping rooms is pure fucking genius.
It's so subtle yet so powerful way to elevate the unreal atmosphere of the plot.