How a New Pro-Russian Party Could Disrupt German Politics
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Sahra Wagenknecht, a prominent but divisive figure in German politics, has gained attention due to the left-wing economic policies but right-wing social views. Her criticisms of identity politics and support for Russia have caused tensions within the Left Party, leading many to suspect that a new favourite Pro-Russian party may be on the rise in Germany.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - The Left Party's Origins and Divisions
04:06 - Who is Sahra Wagenknecht?
08:47 - Sponsored Content
I am very left leaning, but in germany we have the sadly true proverb "When 2 leftists are meeting, 6 different political parties will be formed"
Ever hear of Nepal?
Im an American leftist and I relate to that honestly🥲. Why is internal divisions so universally our main issue.
@@ricochet4674 I believe its just because its such a broad spectrum. Right wing people usually agree, because well.. they usually have the same or similar views on things. so I believe they just tend to be more agreeable. They tend to not care about the general population, but rather about finding something/someone to blame and then "fixing that". Thats why people under right wing rule tend to trust them first. "They tackle this issue!" and then after a couple years nothing improved and they see that they have been deceived.
Left wing people want to make"everyone happy", which is pretty hard and many aren't able to compromise. I believe that's where this divide comes from.
I view myself as a centrist and I truly believe that solely focusing on either side of the scale is a terrible mistake. It strongly depends and its very hard, if not impossible, to judge what course is the best one to take.
Leftists are good at keeping conservatives in power by endlessly infighting
@@ricochet4674
I honestly just believe its because everyone has a different opinion on how it should be done. And basically no one agrees with it.
Having parties that are economically left wing and socially right wing is becoming increasingly common in Europe
Worst of both sides. The nazbols.
Catching stupid voters.
Those are just Nazi lol
Someone has to deal with the migrant crisis
reminds me of one particular party that used to rule Germany 90 years ago. In all seriousness though, I don't know how people are so blind to this.
One fun fact about Wagenknecht. On a German talkshow she said straight to the camera, that „Russia would never ever invade Ukraine“ and that people who think otherwise are uninformed about geopolitics.
Well… not even 12 hours after that talkshow Russia invaded Ukraine.
Just like the US and UK said Iraq had WMD 😂
And that was eight years after Russia had already invaded Ukraine and seized "Lebensraum" on Crimea and in parts of Donbass.
Edit: it was eight years (2014) not four.
I need that bit! Where do I find it?
Yup 😂 And to this day, she continues to be embarassed when its brought up, occationally attempting to deflect from it, but mostly just arkwardly ignoring it 🤦🏻♀️...
@@prathamsaxena9503Nice try, Sergey
A correction: Schröder's governement in the 2000s weren't "Grand Coalitions" with the conservative CDU. They actually were a coalition with the left-leaning green party.
Yeah, actually the first Grand coalition in the 2000s happened in Merkel's first legislative periods as chancellor and Schröder had retired from politics by then.
@@nwo2291same
True, but the CDU supported and helped to design the Agenda2010, so not a real mistake made I guess?
The SPD did form a Grand coaltion in 2005 with the CDU as the major party. I think he talkt about that election because Lafontaine left the SPD in 2005.
But those are 2 moderates party. Not Far-Left and Far-Right coalitions.
There is nothing as ironic as supposedly left wing party supporting a country that is literally an oligarchy.
Just because a country has an Oligarchy doesn't automatically mean we should be waging war on them.
All left wing parties eventually support an oligarchy, look at comunism ends up being
It's this kind of crazy left whose policy is determined by what damages the US, rather than looking at a dictactorship where saying you're gay in public is illegal and thinking "the guy who did that is probably not a good person". The left is post-soviet countries doesn't have this problem, because we were all beaten by the Kremlin-puppet-state police equally.
Oligarchy is a generous description of Russia. More like fascist dictatorship.
We still dont buy ideologies on pipelines only natural gas.
"Her party is left on economics and right on social issues"
As a Polish person under PiS government: first time?
No, not the first time here either. We had this about 80-90 years ago. You might have noticed at the time...
@JochenHormes Nonsense! Capitalists like the Nazis are hardly possible.
Honestly Poland went through so much it adapted to gain advantages/benefits out of this while countries like Germany would only literallly collapse especially with their history
PiS is as economically left-wing as it is competent. Which it isn't. It's just populist. And still very much capitalist.
@@JochenHormes Nazis were capitalists. They banned leftist parties and trade unions. They privatized many state owned companies. They were also on the right on social issues.
Wagenknecht spends more time in talk shows than in the Bundestag. Shes barely seen there. For her it's all about her brand and selling books.
Yes, I think she might be a narcissist. She only cares about being the centre of attention and have people adore and listen to her.
Yeah she's on a selfish fuck it trip. Not interested at all anymore in real politics. She want to go, but with bags full of money and seeing everything burn after her
And you wonder why she appeals to AFD voters 😉
So a German trump then?
@@gp-1542 in some ways maybe 🤔 but it's a bit of a stretch. Wouldn't go that far for many reasons.
8:19 This chart seems to suggest that this party would be popular with FDP voters. This seems somewhat improbable as the FDP is economically right wing and socially liberal, the opposite of this new party.
I know several older FDP voters that are not actually liberal and complain about the leaders of the FDP being too liberal. So maybe some of those people would switch. Some of the young FDP voters I know are the opposite though. They only voted for the FDP because it is liberal without having the same ideas economically as the Greens. Okay, some others I met were also completely aliberal. One literally only voted for the FDP instead of the CDU because the FDP is the only right-leaning party supporting the cannabis legalisation.
Which is exactly what the political compass @ 8:07 shows, FDP in the lower right quadrant, Wagenknecht in the upper left quadrant.
I agree: It just does not seem plausible that Wagenknecht would be more popular among FDP voters than among voters of the Left.
Well we have the Lib Dem/UKIP voter in the UK. Someone who wants to vote against the mainstream parties and so votes for whichever is not them but has a chance of winning something.
@@MarkWhileyHonestly that's what I'm doing in Poland rn. Still swinging between the centrist "third way" and right-wing "Confederation". I don't know what i will choose yet.
Wagenknecht isn't really popular.
In the Politbarometer (a pole conducted by the Central German Broadcast or ZDF) 10 of the most important politicians get rated by perfomance and sympathy. Here Wagenknecht always ranks at 9 with a score of -1.5. Only head of the AfD Alice Weidel ranks lower.
She is the one with the biggest social media presence. So in a sense she is that popular.
@@agiyx8591 yeah, but facebook likes don't necessary translate all that well into votes.
But she ranks high among AfD voters. If you ask me I'd Welcome a strong wagenknecht party if it decimated the AfD
"ZDF" is no reliable source since its government controlled
@@agiyx8591 Maybe if you are a populist 🐷 who lets social media do your thinking.
At least Germany seems to have a lively party system that is open to mix-and-match policies. Seems more responsive/nuanced than some achingly fossilised two-party systems I can think of...
A lively party system that depends on either the SPD or CDU as coalition partners …
@@VieleGuteFahrer True enough. Perhaps one day we can vote on individual issues and in what order we prioritise them rather than parties. I can dream...
@@Xzazashakemajority conservative districts get majority conservative policies because it would appease the majority. Simple. It’s not rocket science. Same with every other country
Each has pros and cons
A rejection of Identity Politics puts you on the right?
And saying theres only 2 genders, and refusing to let your child undergo sex change, and hating pedophiles etc...lol
@@98TrueRocker98 Ah, I love it so much when people talk about things they know nothing about😊
Why not read about how gender reassignment treatment actually works? There are a lot of informational resources available online. You don't need to let other people tell you what to think, you can simply read this stuff by yourself.
@@solar0wind 40% of people who do gender reassignment regret it in lethal sense. Seek help before its too late for you or become a part of those 40%. Idc
@@solar0wind Du vergisst, dass "98TrueRocker98" (lmao) sich noch in die Windeln scheißt. Er wird dir nichts intelligentes oder fundiertes antworten können, weil er nicht alt genug ist um eine Persönlichkeit entwickelt zu haben
Yeah I konw right? It's like liberals think everyone who slightly disagree with them is automatically a conservative, as if no other ideologies exist.
I wouldn't say she's a popular politician.
Her whole scheme is about making as much noise and creating as much outrage as possible.
I swear, apart from her stance on Russia and the rumors about her own party, I don't hear any news from her at all.
I'd say controversial is the best way to describe her
Depends where you are.
Especially in the rural east it feels like she is the only established politican people put any trust in
That's maybe technically true as people don't like her but as long as they vote on her that won't stop her.
As an outsider I want to say, don't underestimate the noise makers. Taking advantage of bad publicity has helped a lot of crazy people get elected
Your sponsorship introduction about feeling good about self-improvment always reminds me of a colleague that started talking about how he spent the weekend learning on the internet and ended up talking to me about how 5G is spreading covid.
😭😭
how does she find Germany being dominant in the EU a bad thing for Germany?
She probably doesn't want the best for Germany, but only for Russia and herself. She's one of the Bundestag representatives who shows up in Bundestag debates least because she's too busy sitting in talkshows.
She's nuts.
She's pro Russia. She wants Germany to ceased to exist.
because she wants to appeal to foreign nationalists.
It's bad in the long run. The EU now pulls labor from smaller countries like Greece, Romania and Bulgaria and pushes them to work in Germany, France, Austria etc. and strips them of fiscal independence. We are destroying their economies for our own benefits, but due to our shared currency, we will eventually have to feather their falls, thereby ruining our economy as well.
The only thing Wagenknecht cares about is Wagenknecht.
Couldn't have said it better. Why sit in boring Bundestag debates and actually do your job, when you can sit in talkshows and have the attention centred on you instead? Maybe she's a narcissist.
@@solar0wind if sitting in the Bundestag would help her sell more books, she would sit everyday.
@@NoHairMan I'm sad to say that you're 100 % correct. Sad how many people fall for that.
@@solar0wind👍
@@solar0wind "Maybe" is a weird way of writing "Definitely."
What dialect is that? ;)
The amount of people in these comments that believe the nazis were economically "left wing" is outstanding
They were. Planned economies are not "right wing", no matter how much you want to spin it.
@@nameTBA nor are left wing. The economical system of Nazism does not fit a traditional left wing/right wing axis.
@@quasarlgq I disagree. The Nazi economy was substantially collectivist, as the regime, like in fascism, saw themselves as an extension to the "will of the people". This effectively influenced how companies ran under the regime, in which the workers' unions, albeit mostly controlled by the party, had an important say in the companies' operations, including what workers were entitled to. This paradigm doesn't fit the economic right wing, which tends to gravitate towards individualism over collectivism.
It's like they never actually read a history book. Privatization and corprorate bailours were unprecedented during that time.
@@nameTBA unions were destroyed under Nazism and replaced by a government body. There were no unions. First they came for the trade unionist, and I did not speak out. Search for that.
She's not popular in Germany and I never understood this hype in foreign media about her. The poll you showed was an outlier. Another poll put her under the 5% threshold.
*she got 2% in that second poll btw.
There's no such thing as objective reporting in media these days. I bet neither the optimistic, nor the pessimistic reports about her are correct, because each corresponding media serves a different master.
Not just foreign media hype... the German media loves to have her, also.
@@tomschweegmann She as a Person is very popular in Germany, her politics, not so much. She is one of the few german politicians with organic support, she can show up at some small town marketplace and people will stop and listen, not many other current politicians can do that.
cope
It sounds like Wagenknecht spends a lot of time on identity politics for someone who thinks identity politics is a distraction. Always worth remembering that right-wing identity politics is a form of identity politics too.
Whataboutism
No identy
Whenever politicians talk about how so-and-so group is 'distracting' from the needs of the working class, that immediately sets off red flags. It's a way of racing their own hate as somehow being pro-worker. And it's why 9 times out of 10 "socially right, economic left" ends up being code for "do nothing and blame minorities for the economy"
She doesn't talk about it a lot. She wrote one book about it. Most of her talk is about left economic issues. Your comment is a strawman.
@@IsomerSoma i read her book she. Talks about true left vs woke left and how wokeness destroyed leftists
Dont get confused. She is economically far left and socially center right, NOT far right.
you should really look into the visa controversy in Poland. The amount of corruption in Law and Justice (PIS) party is appaling
I feel sorry for Poland, after doing research on your political parties all I can say there is no hope for you 😭 yall deserve better
Right now that country is ruled by and for elderly people and low educated people that live of 'bribes' given to them by government who raise taxes, strangle and squeeze anyone who is trying to get higher, be wealthy. Poland has growing gdp yet we are almost at BOTTOM of innovation rankings in whole Europe, not EU but Europe. Poland will suffer not now but in 5 or 10 years. We will be in complete mess due to debt which is increasing rapidly and our complete tragic demographics and lack of innovation and automation of our industry and production. No one invest and grow when each year your company pressured more and more by national gas/electricity prices and taxes increase. PiS economical doings are shame to any thinking and hardworking person and company - with exception of the one connected to national companies and PiS members. They literally rebuilded corruption and nepotism back to levels not seen in years. And they literally make it look normal, acceptable for their voters with explanation going by 'previous politicians did steal as well' . Sickening.
@@chacka4292I really hope Tusk et al succeeds - and lock up most of the Piss Party and clean up all the Piss plants in education, journalism, and the administration.
@@MommyAda21"no hope for you" what 😂
@@MommyAda21 yeah, I'm liberal and there is literally no party for me to vote. I hate PiS and even I have a hard time voting for opposition (but will do it), now imagine someone more conservative, opposition is so unappealing. It's gonna be 3rd term for PiS or even worse they gonna go into coalition with far-right Konfederacja
Wagenknecht will bring back working class interests to politics
As she should. Left needs to go back to its roots and talk about class politics. Identity politics and fake progressive agendas are some of the reasons why people abandoned the left
Not to pick on the video, but I think there are some important issues with the video.
1. The timeline
As you present it, the 2003 labour market reforms, Lafontaine' resignation, the formation of the Grand Coalition and of today's Left Party all happened at the same time. In reality, it was thus:
1998: Schröder becomes Germany's chancellor as head of a center-left (red-green) government, Lafontaine becomes Finance Minister.
1999: Lafontaine resigns, spends years in the political wilderness
2002: Schröder is narrowly reelected, the old left-wing PDS lose almost all their seats in parliament. Lafontaine nowhere to be found.
2003-2004: Facing rising unepmloyment, Schröder reforms the German labour market with partial support of the center-right opposition CDU/CSU. Protests against cuts in social spending ensue.
May 2005: Schröder calls a snap election; Lafontaine reenters politics as head of a new political left-wing alliance
September 2005: Schröder's center-left coalition loses its majority and comes in 2nd at the Bundestag election, a Grand coalition is formed, making Merkel chancellor.
2. The situation in the German Labour market
You paint the situation as if the situation on the German labour market had significantly deteriorated since the 90s. On the contrary, unemployment is way down, the number of employees is way up, there is even a significant labour shortage.
You point out there are far more part-time employees than in the 90s. True, but that's almost entirely due to mothers reentering the labour market shortly after their kids are born instead of staying at home for many years as was costumary in the 90s.
1/3 of your economy is based on pregnant women? Well either Germany has the best fertility rate in the world, or this is a gross overestimation.
You should have mentioned why Lafontaine left : one of the few brave against the Nato led war against former Yugoslawia.
So now we are accused by a country that had a prime minister for 6 weeks to have chaotic politics? 😂
Good research. Objective, balanced, on point. 👍
But one small negative. The party infografic (1:00) is not optimal. The CDU column should be black not dark blue and the logo underneath is not very recognizable either.
The color and the logo is just what is in their header on their website.
@@Sylveon_ChloeYep, but the never use it anywhere xD
Wagenknecht is hardly one of the most popular politicians in Germany. The polling at 15% was an outlier. The next poll had her potential party at just 2%.
Comparing her favorables to the Left party polling does not really work, since favorables just count up yes/nos while party polling has 7 options and does not give information about favorability
Really curious to learn more about her views on the Ukraine / Russia topic. Why stop sending resources and sue for peace?
In my opinion that's just sending the wrong signal to Russia.
Because lefties dont buy into these countries bs. They view these wars as the wars of the elites fought by the working class.
Thats the piont she wants Russia to win this war. She does this under the cover of pacifism, but her true intentions are very very obvious.
She is probably pro Russia. Wants them to win, this is exactly the signal she wants to send
A lot of the German far-left are very pro-Russia - they don't really care about Ukraine, they just want the west to lose.
Agreed
Jeez "Bild" is not a newspaper, it's the same nonsense paper as the "Daily Express" in the UK
8:26 The fact that 30% of FDP Voters would liker her party makes no sense to me. There strongly economical right and social left. 😅
The FDP are neither left nor right. There's more than one axis to political views. They are liberal. i.e. they are for personal freedoms, but also for freedoms of industry. So them being pro-LGBT, pro-legalization of marijuana (second only to the greens), and against surveillance/data gathering (by police, and also by corporations on the internet) but also pro tax breaks, mainly for the rich, is not a contradiction. And neither is sharing some views with other parties that are liberal in some respect.
@@drsnova7313 Yes, ECONOMICAL there right and SOCIAL there left. Or did you just miss that part of my text message?
Don't try to make sense of FDP voters. They are generally not very bright and barely understand their own political position. The only thing they are certain of is the little voice in their head whispering: "me me me".
@@maxhatterschannel5140 *They are* , not there. Grammar can be important, as you can see.
@@drsnova7313 There are a near infinite amount of possible axis, but the commonly used one is that, which was used in the french revolution.
For those who speak and understand German, if you listen to some of her talks you will be impressed at the flow of her sentences which very rarely contain an "urm" or "ah" and use clear and precise language to get her point over. This makes her for one thing very watchable on talk shows where she is head and shoulders, figuratively speaking, above the other people invited on the show. Added to this, as probably all watching this video have noticed, she dresses extremely smartly which also adds to the image being portrayed of a classy person.
Underneath the surface however, lurks a ruthless individual with very sharp claws.
There's way too many syllables in the German language to ever squeeze an "urm" or "ah", to be fair.
@@alexseguin5245 Nearly all people on the talk shows, being highly talented speakers, urm and ah with ease. but not Frau Wagenknecht. I do not ever remember her ever faltering in her speech. Remarkable - does not make her less dangerous though.
@@Antonnick alot of those professional speakers learn their lines before a show while Wagenknecht does everything on the fly.
She is one of the few people who make those shows watchable. another of the few realy talented speaker regulary on those shows is Wolfgang Grupp,
@@alexseguin5245A German sentence doesn't have more syllables than an English one. In the end it all works out to be roughly the same length
@@d.b.2215 Euhhh... No. German has way more syllables than the English language and sentences tend to be significantly longer. There is a reason why video games will adjust their UI to fit German text, because if it works in German it's gonna fit every other language on Earth.
Right-wing socially and left wing economically lmao. This is literally PIS 2.0
PIS are not pro Russia or anti West though. That's a big difference.
PIS also support the Eurozone and NATO. Which is a big no-no for the German Communist or the German far right.
She is closer to Orban.
Thanks for spending the time to create and share this content awareness
price cap on food.... someone has not studied up on that topic (ie Argentina). It'll just make food more available outside of Germany than inside
So she wants to create an official Tankie Party in Germany. Great. Thanks. I hate it
How is she a tankie?
She's not a "tankie" just because she's not Liberal. She is a Socialist. Completely different ideologies.
@@_Bjornfotno she’s not. She’s a Russia supporter and has made positive statements about imperialism and social conservatism. That’s straight out of the tankie textbook. She’s basically a Neo-Stalinist
@@Besthinktwice this sounds like a conservative talking about a rape victim being “partially responsible for being raped” or Kanye talking about slavery being a choice or whatever
@@Besthinktwice then she should be telling Russia to return to their own territory. Or maybe "sanity" isn't your true goal, tankie.
Someone should investigate her offshore banks for rubles
Few issues I have with the video:
1. The video didn't mention that Wagenknecht was a member of East Germany's dictatorship party and also the head of the "Communist Platform" (a far-left organisation which is under investigation by Germany's intelligence agency)
2. Wagenknecht's economic policy isn't just "implement price caps", she wants to introduce "state control agencies" controlling companies
3. Wagenknecht's key policy proposal, "Creative Socialism", was not mentioned at all. It contains stuff like an inheritance tax of 100%, nationalisation of industries and a 10% wealth tax on everything above €1 million (As a comparison, Bernie Sanders suggested a 1% tax above $30 million if I remember correctly)
So yeah, Wagenknecht is way more radical on economics than just "left-wing".
yes to all of this, just one thing: comparing any countries left wing parties to the american left is gonna make them look radical. in this case it happens to be true, but just keep in mind that what passes for leftism in the us isnt a great abse of comparison with other countries.
No, we've just become so used to neoliberal economic policies in the last 30 years that anything that slightly differs, now sounds radical. A large public sector, strategic nationalisation and high inter vivos taxes are all things that may just as well have been pulled straight out of the Beveridge Report or from any mainstream Keynesian of the post-war consensus such as James Meade. Economically, Wagenknecht is just filling a niche that was abandoned by the SPD when it embraced the third way policy regime, which is almost indistinguishable from that of the CDU.
Her faults lie in foreign policy, and even there its honestly a mixed picture. Her stance on immigration is really not as radical as people make it out to be. Germany has had a significant influx of refugees over the last few years and there is an increasing amount of self-ghettoised neighbourhoods and parallel societies emerging, with entire families forming criminal clan structures in larger cities. That is not normal anymore. I say this as a son of refugees myself. I think its really important to have a humane refugee-friendly immigration policy, but on the reasonable condition that if you come to someone's home, you don't take advantage of hospitality and actually try to give a shit about respecting the law. If you can't do that bare minimum, then I'm sorry but you have forfeited your right to remain. Wagenknecht was literally admonished by the entire media landscape and her own party for saying this exact thing, "Wer Gastrecht missbraucht, hat Gastrecht verwirkt", which is the most mild and tepid criticism one can have, yet people reacted as if she had proposed to gun down refugees at the border.
I don't even support her, mainly because her views on the Ukraine conflict and Russia are inexcusably bad and idiotic but honestly if she hadn't made herself unelectable with that take, she wouldn't be nearly as radical as people are making her out to be.
@@Thinkingman69 its not just what she says, its also the context shes saying it in. if someone like her, who constantly uses minorities as scapegoats for every problem, because its simple to understand and she wants to appeal to the right wingers - aka a populist - says things about the right of hospitality, its not a harmless observation, its a right wing dogwhistle. and thats also the other problem, her approach to minorities. the entire argument that identity politics are a distraction is in itself flawed, because its only true thanks to the conversation about it, which she herself stirs. we couldve gotten all of this over with literal decades ago if it wasnt for conservatives projecting their hangups onto people theyve never even met.
if the left were actually genuine about their ideals, id vote for them in a heartbeat, but they allow people like her to flourish, and they support russia somehow. all that demonstrates that theyre more bark than bite when it comes to most things.
Well, German ALWAYS go ALL the way. They stop when the tallest building in Berlin in 10' tall.
This tribe goes collectively mad every couple of decades and it usually also burns the Europe down.
So she badically has the economic platform of the pre-Schrauder SPD ? Wow, so radical indeed...
2:25 Schröder never governed with the Conservatives (CDU/CSU). He governed with the Green Party throughout his 7 years in government. It was surprising to many Germans that the cuts for the welfare state happened under an SPD-Greens coalition as the Greens were seen as left-wing too.
Also those were not just cuts - it was nothing less than a reform of the welfare system after a decade of stalling, which in turn allowed to detect the cuts which already happened, but which were hidden within a convoluted system. The biggest mistake of the Hartz reforms was to stop after a job half done, with the SPD shying away from improving them after Schröder rather than owning the positives and running with it. But then again Germans will always fall for the idea that change is bad, no matter how often they fall flat on their face with that strategy. Like a very dumb child who never learns.
Its called acting when its necessary. Other Parties (looking at you CDU/CSU) tend to ignore Problems because many voters don't give a shit until it actually bothers them. Which can work for a very long time in Germany.
The Thing about wagenknecht is that she acts like a voice for those who feel left behind....me personally ( a young gay men) wouldnt consider her as socialy right...more centered...shes not against queer or trans rights and isnt pushing the rich people to become richer nor is she trying to establish rules who demolish personal freedom.....also shes not a fan of russian society but is trying to make people understand that in Our time war is nothing to win trough wapons or murder.
can you please explain how the greens were put as the most libertarian party on the political compass even though they are the party who calls for the most restrictions, they are the definition of big gov.
looking at the AFD being put under authoritarian is also just plainly wrong since they want to remove pretty much all regulations and restrictions put up by the greens. Anyone actually looking at their program and not just reciting the picture that the state media tries to paint would realise that as well.
information from germany: Gerhard Schröder had an coalition with the Greens, not with the CDU. but still a good work you guys do here
Isn't it, like, the third time she tries to launch a new party ?
I think that left on economics (esp with a sovereign fiat currency!) and moderate or conservative on other issues is exactly the winning thing here in australia too.
Sure, why NOT choose the worse possible set of views from both sides? 😂
@@stdesy
Well i think they are the best, not the worst dependng on what you mean. Because left wing economically means doing what is best for working people and housing.
Moderate on culture war means being against Forced Entry & Settlement without Consent; and rejecting the sense of entitlement economic illegal migrants have.
Also, the majority of the public are moderate or consetvative on cukture war e.g. against biological men in women's sports, and many other issues.
@@stdesy
So considering what i just said, what do you have against that?
@@stdesy
Do u not agree with her stance that "culture war distracts the left from the needs of the working class"?
If not, then why?
@@stdesy
If you are going to use the "nazi means national socialism" line, note the widely accepted historical fact that Nazi policy was not socialist (pro worker) at all but Corproate Statism.
Nazis were also very extreme on Identity Politics too, which is the opposite to Wagenknekt.
She is also mildly Nationalist - simply not wanting to sacrifice her own country's wellbeing for Racist White Guilt.
If the US used a PR system for elections, a party that was slightly left on economic policy plus slightly right on social policy it would probably get a good chunk of the vote.
theres been a gap in the political market for so long good to see someone taking use of it
I don’t really like you captain noodle arms but you did do a good job with the advertisement script at the end, better than most UA-camrs. Soy on, soy on
The origin story at the start is a bit wrong. Schröder never lead a grand coallition, he was forced to join one when Merkel beat him in 2005, her first term as Chancelor. Schröder did cooperate with the CDU/CSU for his Hartz-Reforms though.
Schröder actually never joined the grand coalition at all.
@@NeverEverClever Oh, true. I thought he was Vize-Chancellor at the start, but seems like he wasn't.
@@luzie3317 Yeah the Schroder administrations were coalitions with the SPD and the greens
For someone who is left wing economically. She sure does pedal her books in a capitalistic way and is a multimillionaire. Almost like it’s just a act 💀
Do the christian democrats behave as real christians?
You sound surprised 😀
Win some lose some. Can you find a politician who is not rich?
Salon Bolsheviks
oh the good old you are "rich" so you can't be on the left argument classic winner especially if it is with something like a book. Truly big brains here at least 150IQ
one of the main points is that a lot of germans feel like there are two types of parties in Germany. One type of party shares some kind of broad agreement, meaning that in the end they are all the same (which is not true imo but anyway). This feeling includes all parties except the far right AfD. So the AfD, even though unvotable for many people, remains the only party to vote for if you want to say that you are against the mainstream politics and that you dont trust the established parties. So the AfD kind of has a monopoly on voters that completely mistrust the mainstream politics. With Wagenknechts party, there would be another party that people can vote for if they mostly disagree with the mainstream. That is one explanation why Wagenknechts party could become so popular, considering that the AfD has never been as strong as it is now. Good video tho
2:36 it was Red and Green
If she’s elected Germany will spend the next 10 years cleaning up the mess she makes.
40.
Germany is not cleaning anything up of anyone's so far into the Age of Exhaustion.
She seems to have pretty reasonable and solid takes. In the past 3 decades, Germany has clearly been sliding down, so continuing the same as before isn't going to work well either.
She won’t get elected. AfD will get into politics and instead they will clean up the mess merkel left behind
@@TabeaSerenety Have you heard the kind of garbage the current ministers of Germany say? Like when a 360 turn was necessary? or when one of them claimed to work 560 days a year? I mean, I can't help that the bar has been set this low.
I really like your formats guys and in this video you give us a general idea of what is happening at the moment in Germany, unfortunately there are some severe errors in your report:
First of all, Wagenknecht is not Pro-Russian, she often critizised the russian regime and the democratic and political system of Russia, but yes, she wants to stop sending weapons to the Ukraine in combination with dimplomatic campaigns an peace talks.
Other errors I spotted:
- Schröder formed in 1998 a coalition with the greens and not with the CDU and Lafontaine resigned as finance minister in 1999, Schröder had nothing to do with the CDU but yes, when he was chancellor the SPD introduced neoliberal policies like the Hartz-4-reforms (the counterpart of UK´s Unviersal Credit system)
- The peace manifesto was published in February 2023 (and not before the invasion), she and many others like politicians, intellectuals, authors or comedians appealed to the chancellor, that he should initiate peace talks for end the war in the Ukraine via diplomacy
- Wagenknecht announced her relationship with Lafontaine in 2011 but married him in 2014
The last error is really not important but I think you could do a better job in your research!
This should be at the top ://
could you make video about Mentzen - a polish politician
„In an exclusive from Bild“ … yea that’s solid.
The four-quadrant graph is illuminating. Since long ago, I regret that the fourth quadrant was not occupied in most western countries. I personnally feel left anticapitalist for economic purposes, but reject the "woke" excesses of the post-68 leftists.
Two notes.
1. "Authoritarian" is a wrong description. One can be attached to all democratic principles like freedom of speech, of thought, of association, and opposed to mixed-culture, to islam, to discrimination (pos or neg), to rewriting history, to homosexuality promotion (instead of simply equality and non discrim), etc.
So the vertical axis is more exactly : Conservative values - Anticonservative values.
2. On a same view, the horizontal'axis is more and less than Left-Right : Capitalist - Anticapitalis maybe, but even there, not exactly.
Again, but on economic grounds, it is between those who choose anarchy of private profits (they call it liberty or freedom) and those who defend regulation and equilibrium (equality).
In a nutshell, both are a questtion of liberty & anarchy versus equality & rules.
The political compass is widely known to be trash, yeah.
She stands for everything what Russia would love to push trough.
This is a LIE !
Putin is against the economic left parties in his own country. It is wrong to say she is „pro-Russian“ her position is actually a liberal position in regards to Russia. Make peace, Trade and keep the peace. But apparently Germany forgot what real liberalism is too.
1. I wouldnt say the Green Party is a left-oriented party, they do neoliberalism.
2. Being against woke politic isnt "right-winged" view on social politics.
Advocating for workers is become an interesting paradigm in recent years, because most working class people aren't really what you could classify as left-wing, but the people that most talk about the working class are usually more left-wing. So, it is interesting how they want to square representing and taking care of people who have very different political and usually also economic view to them.
0:30 absolutely! I'm left-wing and I definitely regard identity politics as 1) regressive (all that hyperfocus on race, gender - bit like Apartheid) and 2) leaves us on the traditional left in a tizz about being firm about our progressive politics
Nah, don't kid yourself, you're not left-wing. What you call "identity politics" has been a fundamental part of every Leftist movement in history. I suggest you start to educate yourself before you try to be in the Leftist camp.
So you think there shouldn't be pride parade and gay people shouldn't be able to get married????
@@byunbaekhyun2283 Nice strawman. No one said that. You need to expand your mind if you think that liberal or conservative are the only possible viewpoints.
@@byunbaekhyun2283 What an oversimplification of what identity politics are. At this point, progressive identity politics is not about rights, but about trying to fight individual "disparity and injustice" through collective action, which is, ironically but intentionally, going to create more disparities and injustice, but against other groups of which many individuals have not been responsible for what is being supposedly fought against.
@@_Bjornfotbut what’s the third viewpoint when it comes to human rights? It’s not really something you can be ambivalent about.
Democracy is good, we the people can vote for who we want.
No you cannot. If someone doesn't want the job, you cannot force them to take it.
You have to pick from the pool of people willing to go about the extremely monotonous politics of advertising yourself and dealing with interest groups.
Wagenknecht provides the oppurtunity. To vote democracy away. To vote away the right to vote.
What the Hell 🔥🔥🔥 are you on about?
How did you get to such an implausible accusation? 😱
@@hkonhelgesen
I don't know about all the people saying she's not popular here in Germany. She has been one of the most popular politicians for years now, never even once leaving the top ten of popular German politicians. (There are several institutes that do surveys on who's the most popular politician).
Compare that to chancellor Scholz who wasn't even on the list back in 2015. I think only Markus Söder comes close to her in terms of long-term popularity but then again, he has been a coalitional politician for most of the time, meaning he ruled certain aspects of the country as minister or by ruling Bavaria, Germany's second most populous state.
And even if she were not popular, she still is pretty famous. Try going around asking Germans how certain politicians look. Do that with other oppositional politicians and despite for Wagenknecht or Weidel, most people won't know the name or cannot think of a face when hearing the name. And then again, Weidel has only been around for 3 years or so.
As for Wagenknecht's current party "Die Linke", most people only know Gysi and her and Gysi isn't even an active member anymore.
It doesn't matter nothing will change
Okay, so I'm Austrian and not a German, but from my outside point of view, I never perceived the SPD as being particularly about Identity Politics. They were just normal "watered down economic leftwing". I actually think in a weird way, if Wagenknecht is vocally complaining about identity politics, in a way identity politics play a larger role in her party than in the SPD where in my opinion, the topics was always just an "also ran" where they were never beyond "yeah, we vaguely agree with what others say the left position is", rather than something that they invested time in promoting or developing.
IMO even if Wagenknecht complains about "the left" these days being too much about identity politics, I doubt she really has the SPD much in mind compared to the Greens or various pundits. (that said, social democratic parties usually do advocate in favor of quotas for women, but that is hardly a hip new thing, they have been arguing for that since at least the early 90s)
Die Grünen is nothing else but identity politics. SPD is the I dont know what they really are party.
Absolutely correct. She mostly complains about her own leftist party (die Linke) and the greens. Nobody talks about the SPD as they are essentially invisible.
Meiner Meinung nach ist die spd ist in den letzten Jahren schon sehr in die Identitätspolitik abgedriftet. Nachdem sie von der cdu das letzte Jahrzehnt fast komplett dominiert wurden, haben die wirtschaftlich irgendwie ziemlich abgebaut und sind rechter in dem Sinne geoworden. Das mit der Identitätspolitik ist glaube eher auch ein gesellschaftliche Thema und die Spd bedient sich da gerade dran.
Yes she has the greens in mind. Her problem with the SPD is that they're not left enough.
There was a split on the issue in Die Linke and she left Die Linke because of it.
Being a German, by now I sincerely hope she starts her own party, as I am convinced that it would mostly cannibalize the AfD.
Very unlikely. The AfD has already gained their very loyal right wing base + the protest voters. In the end all Wagenknecht will do is rob die Linke of their last holdouts in Eastern Germany, creating two completely irrelevant parties that at most have some presence in city councils.
What if they would make coalition with Afd at some point in time after gaining further popularity? It is not impossible as both parties cover similar groups and have anti-establishment sentiment?
Would you be happy about it? ;) It is really not impossible over the years in my opinion.
Nothing is impossible, bit it is highly unlikely. Germany electing a socially far right government would be opposed by a lot of people including the broad German population. Their voters are mainly old East Germans and edgy teens.
@pcirocki the problem is that the Wagenknecht party would have zero impact in such a coalition, with at most 1-2% contribution since most people will stick with the AfD and the only new people would be the old east German grandparents in thuringia and Saxony.
Same. But she will sadly get over 5%
Did your Editor quit?
Schröder was in a coalition with the Greens...
Greens are a CDU offshoot
Why is the idea that some voters might be on the left economically but at the same time hold strongly conservative social views so hard for some to comprehend? It is hardly a new phenomenon. Disriaeli was said to have made political use of the conservativism of the working class, and the British National Party was alleged to have plagiarized labour party economic policies from the 1930s. Some people just seem to think that everyone must see the world as a simple minded split between left and right.
Same reason why they claim that Wagenknechts is "right wing" on social issues: They have no brain and no idea what they are talking about. Wagenknecht has no right wing views to her body. The Left Party she belongs to is the follow up party of the East German ruling party SED. She is against identity politics and migration, because it's in violation of her oldschool marxist world view and she thinks it's weaking the proletariat. It's the same reason why she is pro Russia. It's the old Cold War loyalty that is still inside her that makes her think Russia is the good guy.
I take issue with calling her popular, but people certainly know her and her often controversial views
Where did you get your CDU logo from? 😄
A rather English view thinking that a splinter party can disrupt politics of a whole country. Most European countries are governed by coalition politics, a very small party with a few % of seats will not change that nor create chaos.
So you are saying that new party would be economically left ... socialist and socially right ... nationalist.
National Socialists kinda rings a bell from history class. Not a good one :(
This reminds me of some Americans who say if a party is economically and socially left wing, it's communism
The Nazis invented the word privatization. There were no remotely left-wing policies under Hitler. The "Socialist" aspect was to grab some left-wing workers back in the day, and Hitler admitted to this multiple times.
It couldn't be more capitalistic than the Nazis!
Nazi-ism isn't nationalistic socialism (and it never was). Hitler just called the party 'national socialist' because calling yourself a socialist used to be seen as positive back then. It's true that the NSDAP did have a socialist wing (who were called Strasserists), but they were specifically purged after Hitler came to power.
Who said she was nationalist? And no, the nazis were not socialist nor even slightly left wing economically. They made huge pushs for privatization and corporate bailouts.
I think you might be overstating her impact. Die Linke currently has 39 seats in the Bundestag, the 736-seat lower house of the German Parliament. That's the least amount of seats any one party has. Even the CSU, the branch of the CDU that only runs in Bavaria, has 45 seats. So even if Wagenknecht were to make a new party, she'd only be able to siphon a few members off Die Linke, since her new party would only be splitting the vote among potential voters.
And consider that only e.g. if Gregor Gysi hadn't run and won his constituency, The Left would only have had two seats (they didn't even cross the 5% hurdle).
Could very well put the LINKE under the 5% threshhold and therefore out of the Bundestag
Also, calling Wagenknecht "popular" is ridiculous.
She's consistently ranked together with Weidel as one of the two least popular German politicians.
[The last rating from the 15th of September was -1.2 on a scale from +5.0 to -5.0]
@@heyho4770This was already the case with her running last election, so it's not really her making a dent there.
She might be able to grab some would-be AfD votes in East Germany, but in principle I agree with your statement.
That is being the worst of two worlds 🤦🏻♂️
The German workers party, sounds familiar...
I can not believe, that Wagenknecht can get around of 10 % or more polling share. Wagenknecht is a copy of AFD. But rather left and sharper pro Russia. I would suppose, that Right / Russian oriented pollers will prefere AFD over Wagenknecht. But what will happen ? I don't know.
you dont have to be right wing to support Russia and understand their position. Just saying...
@@neilefc877Most Kreml controlled West European parties are "Right Wing". For example: Victor Orban, AFD, FPÖ, Le Pen, Salvini, etc.. And Wagenknechts central target is to dismantle EU and NATO. And making from Europe an subsidary of Putin Imperialism. Peculiar is, that Wagenknecht comes from Left Wing party, but adopes all AFD themes like migration control etc.. And utilizing the theme Migration control is only a fishing trick for getting more voters. Most Europeans are over from Immigration and desire an complete immigration stop. So you have a strong theme to get voters with this item. The contemporary problem is less how to like Russia. The question is rather if you accept the desire of most East European states to join the Western align EU Block. Meaning to get rid of Russian control. Ukraine is most consequent to formulate this target. But Moldova and Geogia and the democratic opposition of Belarus have the same dream. Before Russia attacs Ukraine West Europe developed strong trade relations with Russia. I by my self owned 100 Gazprom shares. I did not sell them in Februar 2022, because I could not believe that Russia will restart WW2 at Europeans East Border. But it happend. But I watched through the rose/red glasses of EU peace keeping mechanism. But Russia is not an EU member state. But a antagonistic Superpower, which regards Europe as a weak and helpless colony form USA, which has to become a Russian colony in future. But most West Europeans had been much to stupid to understand the historical reality.
"Wagenknecht is a copy of AFD" But without the right wing bit. And given that Afd currently shows 20+ percent in polls, 10 percent for Wagenknecht isn't out of the question.
@@xaverlustig3581The AFD started in the beginning as pure national conservative economic party. It was a "new CDU", which replaces the current CDU, which runs behind Greens policy to fetch their voters. But the line Schröder - Merkel - Habeck is a left wing, anti national and pro Russian / Chinese policy line. The AFD was like Le Pen an anti migration and anti population exchange party. But not Russian bound. But then Putin Russia bought Le Pen and AFD to support Putins imperial project, which should dismantle EU and NATO. And making from Europe a Russian colony. This is valid up today. Wagenknecht is like Oskar Lafontaine a DKP follower. Meaning a far left wing party coupled to Russia for all times. And this far Left was not so popular in Germany. At least as conservativ CDU policy gives better outlook on prosperity. But this prosperity advantage has disappeared in last years. The only rich are today pure money capitalists. No longer entrepreneurs, artists, scientists, which build up a real life strong nation. This process is already discribed in Karl Marx "Kapital" Book. But nowadays nationalist stands also on difficult terrain. It is like 1933. Vote for communists to lose all property, or vote for Hitler, what was as toxic as a commuinstic (Pol Pot style) state. Nowadays the situation is similar. And AFD has more positive renomee from its former beginning time than Wagenknecht, which was always a Russian communist section.
I think it's unfair to say she has 'right wing' social politics. Being anti-immigration is historically a left wing position (engels's reserve army of labour), and thinking social issues are a distraction from class politics is just class reductionism
Everything is dependent on Immigration...If our politicians start a strict anti-immigration campaign these Partys are going to drop in the same rate they popped up in the first place.
Exactly right, but the maker of this video has probably no clue about these things.
Maybe calling her positions socially conservative and economically socialist would describe it better than the left and right.
@@herbertdarick7693 No, German media also uses this rethoric. The goal is clear: position Wagenknecht as an alternative to the AfD to split the dissident vote.
We should probably just stop using left and right alltogether.
Not agreeing personally with her socially right wing positions, but anything that takes away voters from the Afd is generally something good. Atleast she isn't a Nazi. And her economic proposals seem logical.
8:15 is that an actual CDU logo?
It's debatable your characterization of Die Linke as more libertarian than authoritarian the "vertical dimension". At least the post/crypto-cumminst faction of Die Linke is highly authoritarian, so Die Linke overall is not really on the Libertarian-Left quadrant.
I think TLDR was conflating the Authoritarian-Liberal "Freedom" axis with a Traditional-Progressive "Morality" axis. People who use a political quadrant generally agree that the X-axis should be economic, but they struggle to nail down exactly what the Y-axis ought to be.
And while Die Linke may be somewhat authoritarian it is very morally Progressive.
Interesting insight from the outside of Germany. I percieve Wagenknecht to be so far left she turned right again.
she always gets portrait as a far left communist. Deep inside she probably still is but she herself said that she would rather reform the system back to more ordo-liberalism
Because your uneducated.
Soooo, she read the “how to get funded by Putin” book? 🤷♂️
It could not.
I would definitely vote for her
She wanted to be in academics but ended up in politics and is economic left wing, social right wing. I'm sure it'll be fine this time.
At least she is not from Austria...
I don't think that we should call people obsessed with race "left-wing", it really sounds right-wing to me, especially when you realise that Wokeism's talk about "race consciousness" is literally something you can find in that other failed academic's works.
Privatization was one of Hitler's headline economic policies in the 1930s, so he was at most an economic centrist.
That said, given her stances on protecting German workers from immigrants, "German Worker's Party" would certainly be a fitting name. Sigh.
@@-haclong2366 Saying you need to be conscious of race so that you can address & mitigate the symptoms of institutionalized racism is very different from saying you need to be conscious of race so that you know which minorities to kill.
@@-haclong2366 The "wokeists" (whose "racial consciousness" is about opposing racism) and the Nazis (which support racism) are the same. Good job.
Schröder didn't form a coalition with the CDU although they might have supported his economic policies in parliament. But the government was SPD/Greens.
No, actually learning about the world around me, particularly politics, usually doesn't feel good at all, it makes me wanna throw up
As a German, I don't think there is any politician I dislike more than Wagenknecht, except for maybe Höcke.
Danke Bruder❤
Es gibt noch ein paar mehr afdler, aber mittlerweile sehe ich Wagenknecht als eine ehrenamtliche Afdlerin
Communist
Weidel.
Can't fully agree. She's the only politician that is doable.
she sounds based af
If they weren’t so worried about what happened 100 years ago and grew a spine and had some national pride. They should be the powerhouse of Europe in all reality.
Im suprised she didn't mention dressdern
As a german Sahra Wagenknecht is no where near to being "one of the most recognisable and popular politicians"
She consistently polled as one of the least liked politicians. Especially in the west noone will care about her
Popular no, recognisable absolutely
Klar ist sie das. Laut INSA die beliebteste Politikerin Deutschlands. Aber das nur mal so...
@@ja5866 Keine Ahnung wen/was Insa da für die Bild fragt. Andere Umfragen kommen da regelmäßig zu komplett anderen Ergebnissen.
Die Bild hatte die Wagenknecht Partei auch bei 15% während sie anderswo bei 2% lag. Da ist sicherlich keine zuverlässige Studie durchgeführt worden.
The worrying thing about Wagenknecht is that i can't remember her ever becoming really active to work on solutions but always being against the government on controversial topics no matter what fundental values she would throw over
Pro-russian politicians should be just arrested for treason, plain and simple, in any country. If a politician priortizes another country over your own, they are a traitor.
You'll have noticed that she's never been in any government, but only ever in opposition. So being against the government has been her job.
yes but when the government took up positions she previously supported suddenly these things were awful@@xaverlustig3581
@@xaverlustig3581 as a politician your job is to speak for the people that voted for you, regardless of Wagenknechts case as opposition your job is not to be against the goverment but still to speak for your voters and give them a voice in parlament.
Honestly, economically mostly to the left and socially mostly to the right would probably appeal to a ton of people. Though personally i just want a party that gets shit done which no german party right now can really do.
Nice framing.
US Democrats on holding the party together: "It's clearly a skill issue."
PR issue
This is literally german PiS lmao
Why would you try to compare median Household Incomes when clearly sizes of households reduced. Wages (even Inflation & tax adjusted) are stagnating at its almost highest point.
Worrying.
The horseshoe theory is alive and kicking 🤷🏻♀️
"Yes - no - yes but for different reason" some tard on the net - OmG hOrSeShOe ThEoRy 😱🤡
Eh, or just actual centrism representing majority economic and social opinions.
The theory is alive and kicking, because the right wing mainstream loves it so much. But it's still not true and never was. It's just popular, because it is convenient to some circles.
Horseshoe theory is a terrible model as being far-left is different in many ways to being far-right and is different again to being far-left on certain issues and far-right on other issues. If somebody supports any far-right position whilst claiming to support left-wing economic policy they are still a fascist they are just a fascist who has chosen a different aesthetic to for example clerical fascism.
@@danksheev66 Oh really? Support 1 single far-right policy is fascist? Then, using your (flawed) logic, every single average joe before 2000s was a fascist. Meaning fascism is the norm
We have a similarly idiotic party in Slovakia.
interestingly every country has it, sometimes even multiples of them
Price caps always = shortages. Bad ideas just won't die.
Within 3 days!