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Only in America. !!! Omgosh, With these diagnoses he could have had a fatal heart attack while sitting on the toilet! A trial because she had an argument with her husband that led to him having a fatal heart attack is diabolical. Ladies, be careful you don’t piss off your ex/husbands.
I know. This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@@migz121 if your illegal actions lead to someones death you need to be held responsible. period. you dont get a free pass because "they were sick anyway"
@@phoenixmerridian9119exactly it was not only ferbal but also fisicle. My daughter has a lot of health problems to. And only due to her medication a smack to her head could be lethal. And she smacked him and he died so she should be punished. She should of left and ceep her hands to herself
OMG so true . The last thing i think of is my husbands medical diagnosis when I'm yelling at him about taking out the trash leaving his laundry all over the floor or not paying a bill on time . total stretch by these prosecutors come on ... .I am sure he was doing his fair share of yelling at her...Seems that the ex wife was not on good terms with anyone in his family going by the brothers reading of an email when she informed them of his health issues and she didn't get any support from them. Sounds like they all have a gripe with this woman.. Wonder what the cause of the divorce was ???
I think she knew all his health issues, but I don’t think she thought he would have a cardiac episode during an argument! I don’t think she should be charged with anything! She was angry and he got angry…that’s all 😢. Sad because he looks young 💔
Because of an eviction. This isn't a domestic couple argument. This is someone attacked because of an eviction, in their own home. If he died due to her committing a crime, it's homicide
If the girl thought her dad was fighting with her brother at first, then the dad was the one doing the yelling. And he was in a car wreck 8 days prior to this. They hadnt been together for years, how would she know? The ME had to research how to make this a homicide, that should terrify anyone living there
I am outraged this case made it anywhere near a court room. The clips you show are missing very important points. The daughter heard screaming, and thought her Dad was yelling at her brother.. Meaning this point alone the Dad was the louder aggressor, the daughter is heard on the 911 telling her Dad to stop. The defense had already shown in court he had no known major heart issue known before he died. How did we get here? This is ridiculous and unjust.
His family has some balls leaving her to take care of him, then throwing a fit after they kick her out of a home resulting in them fighting. I don't know about the lady but taking care of someone with dementia symptoms uses up ALL of you.
This seems like a slippery slope. She shouldnt have struck him, but are we going to incarcerate somebody any time a person with underlying conditions gets riled up during a disagreement and happens to drop dead?
Why not if you know that person has health issues?you realize that there is a difference in sentences if one punches a person over a certain age than a younger one.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@maanmohammad8459 Unless you want "Never argue with people who aren't in perfect health under threat of incarceration" to become law, I encourage you to give the implications of your stance more thought.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@TheBethadoneClinic Unfortunately, a LOT of intelligent 🧠 people have NO common sense. Case in point, the state/ prosecution is the one charging Penelope with manslaughter knowing the facts of the case. Happens ALL the time 😬. That's why if I were her, I would have elected 6 to 12 peers (jury) of society to decide my case. As many here have stated, this case shouldn't have even gone to trial ⚖️‼️
I have primary HTN and the stress i'm under to get United Heathcare to give me back my doctor so i can get my refills on time causes me too much stress ~. if i have another stroke, it's UHC's fault ~ do you think the DA$ will prosecute the overpaid executives who put $ over human lives?
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
She's telling what she saw and heard on that fateful night... her father had life stressors and a lifestyle that was contrary to his diseases ... his ex is not responsible for his health problems! It's ridiculous that the DA$ office is prosecuting her for manslaughter! He should have called the cops v letting her inside his house when he knew she was angry at him.
WOW! You look like Penelope...You really look like her younger way more beautiful sister. No harm meant here at all. By the way I don't think she should be charged like this.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@ Do you think she will be found guilty? i do not. This is a stretch....unless she tried to get insurance money that would be different. One slap and a push? Nahhhh.
@waynefoote3781 She could definitely be found guilty. Unfortunately, intelligent 🧠 people lack common sense‼️ Case in point, the state/prosecution is the entity charging Penelope with manslaughter. Maybe they know something we dont know. But based on what I've seen and heard in this Court TV episode. I wouldn't even charge her ‼️
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
This young lady is lying period she mad at her mom for her dad dying 😢 no emotions at all am surprised no one ask if the child was under some kind of care
I agree. She told a completely different story while on the stand than she told any of the LEO whom questioned her the night of. Clearly her and her mother are estranged. The daughter has an axe to grind. Only in Norfolk MA does this kind of prosecution happen. This whole office and court should be shut down and re staffed with honest law abiding professionals.
A person has a responsibility to THEIRSELF to keep their own emotions under control in order to avoid a heart attack. Why is this even going to trial??? DISMISS the charges against this woman.
Of course not, but that doesn't mean that she didn't initiate the argument, assault him, and refuse to leave when asked... all while knowing his fragile health state.
Doesn't matter. The only question, did she assault him, commit a crime, did he die out of a result to that crime. If yes, she is guilty. The defense is arguing self defense. Which there is no evidence. I'm thinking it could be guilty
@@jennifersamonte7420 I think this is like those instances of bar fights where Patron #1 pops Patron #2 in the jaw, Patron #2 falls to the ground, strikes his head on the pavement, and dies. Patron #1 may have only intended to stun Patron #2, but dead is dead. You break it, you own the results
@ I feel like there’s a recap on your comment but.. I still don’t think she did it and purposely killed her ex. She was upset at the moment before she had an argument with her ex..And then wanting to be with him to go to hospital?
Ridiculous bringing manslaughter charges against a woman for ex-husband's preexisting cardiac arrythmia. Surely Massachusetts has more important cases to try (like the frame up by LEO of Karen Read?).
As of today, Penny is Free! The Judge was Beverly Cannone (from Karen Read's trial), who pronounced Penelope NOT Guilty, after a bench trial. The Medical Examiner was the biggest hurdle. Dr. Drexler used personal opinion when pronouncing Andrew's death a homicide. Good on You, Public Defender: Larry Tipton
As someone with serious health issues I could never send this ex-wife to prison. It’s not her responsibility to manage his stress levels. Stress also comes from within.
This case is disheartening. It is sad that the husband passed away, but his own exertion, to slam her around, not her trying to talk to him, seems to be why his body failed. Seems like he was lost to imminent natural causes.
Wow this is insane. I hope this jury finds her not guilty. Maybe simple assault if you believe she pushed him. But you can’t find someone guilty for any level of homicide for stressing them out 🤯
The daughter needs to move on. Her mother is not a killer, even if she slapped him and argued with him. Karma can be harsh-what you do often comes back to you. One day, the daughter will have kids of her own and may face criticism and harassment because of what she did. This is not right.
This case is a miscarriage of justice! She is NOT RESPONSIBLE for his heart attack! Couples fight all the time! I feel sorry for this defendant!!! This prosecutor should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY!!!!
Basically, this guy would have died with any stressors because of his condition so I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that she was taking care of him when they were divorced and they try to put a murder charge regardless that she knew so he could’ve been watching a football game and got stressed over his team losing and die from that
Ridiculous! If he had a healthy lifestyle… it’s not her fault he mistreated his body! Eat right, exercise (he looked very overweight), and take blood pressure medication… but she’s a murderer because he had medical problems that probably only he was responsible for, but she raised her voice to him. INSANE! I hope she gets not guilty!
I think it's crazy to accuse a woman of killing this man, especially when she had helped him for years. It seems absurd to blame her for his death over a simple argument and a slap. Let's be honest-he was a sick man.
If she is found guilty for this there are something really really wrong with the US justice system. He had a massive deadly heart attack when he verbally argued with his wife and that`s it. To use a court and lot of tax money for an incident like this is beyond stupidity !
Her eyebrows give her a very harsh stern appearance. Were I on her defense team, I would suggest she have those brows shaped differently and perhaps even lightened.
So he knew she was going to be mad when she got the papers that she had to move. So should we actually blame him for dying now? He knew it would be an altercation whether verbal or more...If we're going by these new rules?
I’m not sure who the prosecutors are, but it seems like you are taking the law to an extreme. This is one reason why the law can be used as a weapon and a means of advancing in the police department and the lawyers. Nobody will win here even if she goes to jail. This is a made up case
Intriguing case! 🤔 Vinnie Politan always brings a fresh perspective to investigations. What do you think - is Penelope McGee guilty or just caught up in a web of lies? Let’s dive into the details and discuss the evidence! 🔍👀
It's distressing that after 6yrs this Mom feels entitled to march into the Ex's home where their two children live. Children should feel safe in their dwelling & not witness a parent abusing another without regard of the individuals living there. DV against a man should not be excused away. They should get the same attention as women expect.
Obviously, you don’t know the facts of the case. She was living there in the same home with her ex after being evicted from the home that belong to the family trust.
Is the Judge not the one of the Karen Reed trial? I saw only her blond hair and the attitude on her chair during the testimony of the daughter. Just wondering.
It is, so wild what they got going on in this district yo. It took that long to charge in the Sandra birchmore case but Karen read case they charged her right away and then this case like wtf is this case even? I’m real surprised she chose a bench trial too, weird choice imo
I'd be angry too if my DAUGHTER was lying like hers. The daughter is the angry one out for blood of her mother to settle a score. The daughter should be charged for committing purgery on the stand.
Ohh these body language experts, ridiculous in my opinion. I feel so much for this poor girl having to testify and who can say what she felt just in the moment her father fell to the ground and what happened after
SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW HOW BAD HIS HEALTH AND HEART WAS She was making it worse putting her hands on him and screaming and yelling.. MANSLAUGHTER NOT MURDER
how long were they married? long enough for her to know about his condition. yelling is one thing, but refusing to leave, slapping, and pushing someone makes it assault. if you assault someone with a heart condition…its manslaughter if they die. this doesn’t seem like a stretch to me. She could have yelled at him and left when he asked her to, and she wouldn’t be in this position. He didn’t trip in his home, he didn’t go running on a treadmill, he wasn’t driving, he was assaulted. If this were a random man pushing and slapping him and refusing to leave this wouldn’t be a conversation.
That was a witch hunt of a trial. Do you not know that? Maybe you should do some serious research into the Biden crime family. Why do you think Biden pardoned his whole family and Fauci and everybody else right before he left office? If you’re innocent, you don’t need a pardon. Ask anybody.
I have a son with arrhythmia issues and has had a defibrillator implanted since the age of 13. Anything can cause an arrhythmia, let’s be honest. Not just an argument. My son’s Dr told me one time his alarm clock could set him off. Even if she played basketball with her husband he could’ve gone into cardiac arrest. Would they then have charged her with manslaughter?
Ridiculous charge..how would she know he was going to cause himself to have a heart attack..so if my employer were to cause me to become upset enough to yell..slam my fist on a desk..then I have a heart attack..my employer can be arrested..there was no intention..ME should be fired
SOMEONE WITH HIS CONDITION IS HIGH RISK WOULD U PUT SOMEONE ON TREADMILL WITH BAD HEART NO YELLING AND SLAPPING LIKE DAUGHTER SAID AT HIM RAISED BLOOD PRESSURE
It is a bench trial. With this judge, I would be scared if I were Penny. There's no way they could have convinced a jury she was guilty because people get into arguments with their spouses or ex-spouses all the time. No one expects a death to occur over an argument. People with dementia are known to become combative, so I don't doubt he got physical with her either. The daughter hates her mother and has since before his death. Her story "evolved" on the stand. This has to be the most ridiculous case I've ever heard of. Massachusetts is a scary place to live. I would never put my life in the hands of this judge. She's awful. I hope she is fair for once.
00:00 Vinnie Politan Investigates
03:46 Heart Condition to Homicide?
12:26 Did Penny McGee Know about the Medical Conditions?
27:03 How Credible is the Daughter, the sole Eyewitness?
37:05 What is Penny McGee's Defense?
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So now arguing with someone is a crime . SMH
The claim is that she assaulted him, knowing his vast medical issues.
If it would have been the other way around, nothing would happen.
Yes I have diabetes and high blood pressure and the doctors are very strick with no stress environment and no arguing with a soul.
@@Nolypr_Gamingthat’s impossible unfortunately
his daughter even said that she thought he was yelling at her brother at first.. So obviously he was a yeller...
Seems like a bit of a stretch.
So SHE has to pay because HE didn't take care of his health? Let her go!
Penny is Free!
@nicolewhite1288 yes!
Only in America. !!! Omgosh, With these diagnoses he could have had a fatal heart attack while sitting on the toilet! A trial because she had an argument with her husband that led to him having a fatal heart attack is diabolical. Ladies, be careful you don’t piss off your ex/husbands.
I know. This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@@migz121 if your illegal actions lead to someones death you need to be held responsible. period. you dont get a free pass because "they were sick anyway"
@@phoenixmerridian9119exactly it was not only ferbal but also fisicle. My daughter has a lot of health problems to. And only due to her medication a smack to her head could be lethal. And she smacked him and he died so she should be punished. She should of left and ceep her hands to herself
OMG so true . The last thing i think of is my husbands medical diagnosis when I'm yelling at him about taking out the trash leaving his laundry all over the floor or not paying a bill on time . total stretch by these prosecutors come on ... .I am sure he was doing his fair share of yelling at her...Seems that the ex wife was not on good terms with anyone in his family going by the brothers reading of an email when she informed them of his health issues and she didn't get any support from them. Sounds like they all have a gripe with this woman.. Wonder what the cause of the divorce was ???
@@phoenixmerridian9119 What "illegal actions" did Penelope commit❓️🤔
I think she knew all his health issues, but I don’t think she thought he would have a cardiac episode during an argument! I don’t think she should be charged with anything! She was angry and he got angry…that’s all 😢. Sad because he looks young 💔
She physically attacked him
Because of an eviction. This isn't a domestic couple argument. This is someone attacked because of an eviction, in their own home. If he died due to her committing a crime, it's homicide
@@MrTimberwolfsden if that’s the case, why was the daughter saying “dad stop” on the 911 call?
This is ridiculous. How did she know he was going to die
So if i have a argument with my neighbour over their ferral kids and they have a heart attack and die, thats somehow murder?
Oh this is not right. My husband has major heart issues and we argue all the time. I am not seeing how she can be at fault. Come on.
Oh no you better be very careful 😂this is ridiculous imo
Not guilty in my opinion
Don't name your daughter Zuzzie if you don't want her to eventually testify against you in court.
If the girl thought her dad was fighting with her brother at first, then the dad was the one doing the yelling. And he was in a car wreck 8 days prior to this. They hadnt been together for years, how would she know? The ME had to research how to make this a homicide, that should terrify anyone living there
I am outraged this case made it anywhere near a court room. The clips you show are missing very important points. The daughter heard screaming, and thought her Dad was yelling at her brother.. Meaning this point alone the Dad was the louder aggressor, the daughter is heard on the 911 telling her Dad to stop. The defense had already shown in court he had no known major heart issue known before he died. How did we get here? This is ridiculous and unjust.
His family has some balls leaving her to take care of him, then throwing a fit after they kick her out of a home resulting in them fighting. I don't know about the lady but taking care of someone with dementia symptoms uses up ALL of you.
This seems like a slippery slope. She shouldnt have struck him, but are we going to incarcerate somebody any time a person with underlying conditions gets riled up during a disagreement and happens to drop dead?
I agree
"riled up" is a lot different from being pushed around and slapped and hit in the chest
Why not if you know that person has health issues?you realize that there is a difference in sentences if one punches a person over a certain age than a younger one.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@maanmohammad8459 Unless you want "Never argue with people who aren't in perfect health under threat of incarceration" to become law, I encourage you to give the implications of your stance more thought.
This is a dangerous precedent to set. Let her go.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@migz121 i hope the judge has sense and lets her off.
@TheBethadoneClinic Unfortunately, a LOT of intelligent 🧠 people have NO common sense. Case in point, the state/ prosecution is the one charging Penelope with manslaughter knowing the facts of the case. Happens ALL the time 😬. That's why if I were her, I would have elected 6 to 12 peers (jury) of society to decide my case. As many here have stated, this case shouldn't have even gone to trial ⚖️‼️
Extremely
@@TheBethadoneClinicIt's the Karen Reed Judge ..So she's done for
This is a very weird case! She done nothing at all to him, anyone can argue, but to be blamed for a death is shocking
I have primary HTN and the stress i'm under to get United Heathcare to give me back my doctor so i can get my refills on time causes me too much stress ~. if i have another stroke, it's UHC's fault ~ do you think the DA$ will prosecute the overpaid executives who put $ over human lives?
The right Julia that should fill in for Vinnie. Need your own show Julia!
Really? This seems like an appropriate position for her.
Yes Julia your great!❤️
YES! But... I love Vinnie!!!
@@VioletJoy I like her! She is really good too.
@waynefoote3781 Vinnie rocks...!😊
This is outragous that she was charged!
It is not. Please read the Eggshell skull rule then you will understand the reason is charged.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
I think the daughter is not telling the whole truth’
She's telling what she saw and heard on that fateful night... her father had life stressors and a lifestyle that was contrary to his diseases ... his ex is not responsible for his health problems! It's ridiculous that the DA$ office is prosecuting her for manslaughter! He should have called the cops v letting her inside his house when he knew she was angry at him.
Captured on the 911 call daughter said multiple times “stop, stop… Dad stop…..” and changed her story on the stand…..
Why is this a trial?
WOW! You look like Penelope...You really look like her younger way more beautiful sister. No harm meant here at all. By the way I don't think she should be charged like this.
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
@ Do you think she will be found guilty? i do not. This is a stretch....unless she tried to get insurance money that would be different. One slap and a push? Nahhhh.
@waynefoote3781 She could definitely be found guilty. Unfortunately, intelligent 🧠 people lack common sense‼️ Case in point, the state/prosecution is the entity charging Penelope with manslaughter. Maybe they know something we dont know. But based on what I've seen and heard in this Court TV episode. I wouldn't even charge her ‼️
I know that there is a lot of evidence we’re not hearing, but from what I’m hearing I don’t understand why this is even a court matter 😮
This is crazy. And Penelope elected to have a judge 👩⚖️👨🏿⚖️ listen to her case. 1 person decides her fate 😱🤯‼️ Even if she knew he had a bad heart condition, she couldn't, nor could he predict he would die over some shoving and arguing‼️
I love Julia!
The daughter's behavior towards her mother is typical for teenagers.
This young lady is lying period she mad at her mom for her dad dying 😢 no emotions at all am surprised no one ask if the child was under some kind of care
She strikes me as a bit odd. She clearly blames her mom for losing her dad, but what's disturbing is that she seems to want blood.
I agree. She told a completely different story while on the stand than she told any of the LEO whom questioned her the night of. Clearly her and her mother are estranged. The daughter has an axe to grind. Only in Norfolk MA does this kind of prosecution happen. This whole office and court should be shut down and re staffed with honest law abiding professionals.
She was the only suspect and wasn’t charged until a year later… Karen Read was charged within days. Same County, etc. 🤔🤔🥴
Well, yeah. The cops were setting up Read, so of course they grabbed her right away
A person has a responsibility to THEIRSELF to keep their own emotions under control in order to avoid a heart attack. Why is this even going to trial??? DISMISS the charges against this woman.
Imagine having your own child testifying against you! seem like she the child didn’t get her way!
Nor the husband, as per the divorce and later homicide
I really don’t think she meant that to happen…
She was enraged and never hated him as much as she did in that moment.
Of course not, but that doesn't mean that she didn't initiate the argument, assault him, and refuse to leave when asked... all while knowing his fragile health state.
Doesn't matter. The only question, did she assault him, commit a crime, did he die out of a result to that crime. If yes, she is guilty. The defense is arguing self defense. Which there is no evidence. I'm thinking it could be guilty
@@jennifersamonte7420 I think this is like those instances of bar fights where Patron #1 pops Patron #2 in the jaw, Patron #2 falls to the ground, strikes his head on the pavement, and dies. Patron #1 may have only intended to stun Patron #2, but dead is dead. You break it, you own the results
@ I feel like there’s a recap on your comment but.. I still don’t think she did it and purposely killed her ex. She was upset at the moment before she had an argument with her ex..And then wanting to be with him to go to hospital?
Sounds like Andy didn’t take care of himself
Ridiculous bringing manslaughter charges against a woman for ex-husband's preexisting cardiac arrythmia. Surely Massachusetts has more important cases to try (like the frame up by LEO of Karen Read?).
THE MOTHER IS INNOCENT❗♥️♥️🙏
Yeah I’m not fully understanding this case. His condition sounded like he had only a few months to live on a good day.
As of today, Penny is Free! The Judge was Beverly Cannone (from Karen Read's trial), who pronounced Penelope NOT Guilty, after a bench trial. The Medical Examiner was the biggest hurdle. Dr. Drexler used personal opinion when pronouncing Andrew's death a homicide. Good on You, Public Defender: Larry Tipton
Woohoo! Thanks to @AttorneyMelanieLittle following this case . Was great to hear Auntie Bev’s verdict …NOT GUILTY ⚖️🎉
As someone with serious health issues I could never send this ex-wife to prison. It’s not her responsibility to manage his stress levels. Stress also comes from within.
The daughter seems very unhappy period!
Well her dad is dead...so I'm sure she is sad
This case is disheartening. It is sad that the husband passed away, but his own exertion, to slam her around, not her trying to talk to him, seems to be why his body failed. Seems like he was lost to imminent natural causes.
This is so not worth a case. He was very sick and anything could have set it off. Ticking time bomb
Unfortunately for defendant, his heart attack occurred while she was hitting him.
This is ridiculous ! Fighting is not a punishable crime. If this were the case I would’ve been in prison already .
Ridiculous charges
Wow this is insane. I hope this jury finds her not guilty. Maybe simple assault if you believe she pushed him. But you can’t find someone guilty for any level of homicide for stressing them out 🤯
I always like your guest, Atty. Elikan. He's not hyperbolic and is very balanced.
Isn't this a bench trial?
The daughter needs to move on. Her mother is not a killer, even if she slapped him and argued with him. Karma can be harsh-what you do often comes back to you. One day, the daughter will have kids of her own and may face criticism and harassment because of what she did. This is not right.
Same judge ,same DA's office ...as KR
We all saw how Auntie Bev handled Karen Reads case... OMG
Amdrew died almost
2 years to the day as
Officer John O'Keefe.
Corrupt
This case is a miscarriage of justice! She is NOT RESPONSIBLE for his heart attack! Couples fight all the time! I feel sorry for this defendant!!! This prosecutor should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY!!!!
This makes no sense!! Why is this woman on trial ???
That would be death by 'misadventure" only.
Basically, this guy would have died with any stressors because of his condition so I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that she was taking care of him when they were divorced and they try to put a murder charge regardless that she knew so he could’ve been watching a football game and got stressed over his team losing and die from that
Cant wait to see how aunt Bev rules....😮
I bet I can guess
Not aunt bev.. Lol... She'll probably need to read on it over the weekend.
Man this judge …. Don’t care for her at all
Aunt Bev should have retired after Karen read case 😮
That’s a much nicer comment than I wanted to say! Auntie Bev 🤑
Ridiculous! If he had a healthy lifestyle… it’s not her fault he mistreated his body! Eat right, exercise (he looked very overweight), and take blood pressure medication… but she’s a murderer because he had medical problems that probably only he was responsible for, but she raised her voice to him. INSANE! I hope she gets not guilty!
I think it's crazy to accuse a woman of killing this man, especially when she had helped him for years. It seems absurd to blame her for his death over a simple argument and a slap. Let's be honest-he was a sick man.
If she is found guilty for this there are something really really wrong with the US justice system. He had a massive deadly heart attack when he verbally argued with his wife and that`s it. To use a court and lot of tax money for an incident like this is beyond stupidity !
Something is seriously wrong with Norfolk County. How can they charge her when he's got a bunch of health problems. Ridiculous.
Her eyebrows give her a very harsh stern appearance. Were I on her defense team, I would suggest she have those brows shaped differently and perhaps even lightened.
So he knew she was going to be mad when she got the papers that she had to move. So should we actually blame him for dying now? He knew it would be an altercation whether verbal or more...If we're going by these new rules?
Sooo...you don't argue with someone if they have a medical condition?? Too ridiculous 🙄
I’m not sure who the prosecutors are, but it seems like you are taking the law to an extreme. This is one reason why the law can be used as a weapon and a means of advancing in the police department and the lawyers. Nobody will win here even if she goes to jail. This is a made up case
These people were in the political arena. This ridiculous case is politically motivated. The family hates the ex-spouse and is out for revenge.
This imo is gonna be a NG
Intriguing case! 🤔 Vinnie Politan always brings a fresh perspective to investigations. What do you think - is Penelope McGee guilty or just caught up in a web of lies? Let’s dive into the details and discuss the evidence! 🔍👀
How is this a case? The deceased was a very ill man that would have passed away if he had a laughing fit.
It's distressing that after 6yrs this Mom feels entitled to march into the Ex's home where their two children live. Children should feel safe in their dwelling & not witness a parent abusing another without regard of the individuals living there. DV against a man should not be excused away. They should get the same attention as women expect.
She was living there
Obviously, you don’t know the facts of the case. She was living there in the same home with her ex after being evicted from the home that belong to the family trust.
6:57 So what this attorney would do it too? Gross!!
Penelope McGee sounds like a name Adam Sandler would make up.
Oh it’s the same judge as the Karen Read trial. She must need a strong drink every night.
Is the Judge not the one of the Karen Reed trial? I saw only her blond hair and the attitude on her chair during the testimony of the daughter. Just wondering.
It is, so wild what they got going on in this district yo. It took that long to charge in the Sandra birchmore case but Karen read case they charged her right away and then this case like wtf is this case even? I’m real surprised she chose a bench trial too, weird choice imo
Yes, same judge.
5 years ago? Wow! Why so long?
Hard to believe that Judge Bev actually did the right thing, shocking!
What a mouthful of medical words
When i go true something often things come later. After the first shock and than i think about things and than i remember more
"through"
The Eggshell Skull Rule.
This is a bench trial not a jury trial.
Opps ..got my answer...
I’m reading the comments while I’m listening. Can’t wait to find out 😮
@Lez_awake ...me either ..I hope we hear penny Monday...
@@loriduffecy9205 oh ok!!! I think Zuzzy is Sussy
@Lez_awake true dat 😁
She was his EX and knows any type OF STRESS CAN MAKE HIS CONDITION BAD HEART MAKE IT GIVE OUT
Wonder what Dodgy Bev will decide here?
DAUGHTER SAID WHEN HE FELL SHE TOLD MOM TO GIVE CPR AND SAID HE DON'T NEED IT..know the facts
She looks so angry.😣prayers for his daughter and his family and friends🙏🙏
I'd be angry too if my DAUGHTER was lying like hers. The daughter is the angry one out for blood of her mother to settle a score. The daughter should be charged for committing purgery on the stand.
Ohh these body language experts, ridiculous in my opinion. I feel so much for this poor girl having to testify and who can say what she felt just in the moment her father fell to the ground and what happened after
SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW HOW BAD HIS HEALTH AND HEART WAS She was making it worse putting her hands on him and screaming and yelling.. MANSLAUGHTER NOT MURDER
This is crazy...If she gets convicted that's gonna opens a whole new can of worms
This is SO RIDICULOUS. LET HER GO. omg the courts are going to 💩
He could have still been breathing in which case you don’t perform CPR but she attempted to do it when he wasn’t 🤷🏼♀️
how long were they married? long enough for her to know about his condition. yelling is one thing, but refusing to leave, slapping, and pushing someone makes it assault. if you assault someone with a heart condition…its manslaughter if they die. this doesn’t seem like a stretch to me. She could have yelled at him and left when he asked her to, and she wouldn’t be in this position. He didn’t trip in his home, he didn’t go running on a treadmill, he wasn’t driving, he was assaulted. If this were a random man pushing and slapping him and refusing to leave this wouldn’t be a conversation.
If they can convict this woman then Trump should definitely be in prison!
That was a witch hunt of a trial. Do you not know that? Maybe you should do some serious research into the Biden crime family. Why do you think Biden pardoned his whole family and Fauci and everybody else right before he left office? If you’re innocent, you don’t need a pardon. Ask anybody.
I have a son with arrhythmia issues and has had a defibrillator implanted since the age of 13. Anything can cause an arrhythmia, let’s be honest. Not just an argument. My son’s Dr told me one time his alarm clock could set him off. Even if she played basketball with her husband he could’ve gone into cardiac arrest. Would they then have charged her with manslaughter?
all i can say this is the wrong judge to have a bench trial with bev will find her guilty I don't know why they keep saying jurors there's no jury
He had health issues I couldn’t testify against my mother
Ridiculous charge..how would she know he was going to cause himself to have a heart attack..so if my employer were to cause me to become upset enough to yell..slam my fist on a desk..then I have a heart attack..my employer can be arrested..there was no intention..ME should be fired
Does anyone know if penny testifed?
Penny McGee looks so angry with the world!
I think Penny looks sad. The daughter is the angry one. She seems to want to see her mother bleed. Frankly, I'm doubting her testimony.
I would be too if my spoiled rotten evil daughter was lying about me in court.
SOMEONE WITH HIS CONDITION IS HIGH RISK WOULD U PUT SOMEONE ON TREADMILL WITH BAD HEART NO YELLING AND SLAPPING LIKE DAUGHTER SAID AT HIM RAISED BLOOD PRESSURE
Like your yellow sweater dress Julia
I thought this is a bench trial. There is no jury!
It is a bench trial. With this judge, I would be scared if I were Penny. There's no way they could have convinced a jury she was guilty because people get into arguments with their spouses or ex-spouses all the time. No one expects a death to occur over an argument. People with dementia are known to become combative, so I don't doubt he got physical with her either. The daughter hates her mother and has since before his death. Her story "evolved" on the stand. This has to be the most ridiculous case I've ever heard of. Massachusetts is a scary place to live. I would never put my life in the hands of this judge. She's awful. I hope she is fair for once.
Bad audio!
Hardly a ‘socialite’🙄
people commenting without watching and knowing facts
We can all rest easy knowing Canone is trying this case not.