Do not apologise for being ridiculously thorough! Your content is beyond informative and so glad to have found an expert to assist me in my production company's network and editing workflow. Thanks and massive kudos to you good sir!
Of those not able to directly connect your NAS to your PC - in my case, my NAS is in another room, on another floor - I recommend using video editing software that supports local proxies. I put the originals on my NAS and then use DaVinci Resolve to create local proxies on a scratch disk (SSD) dedicated for this purpose. This approach works very well and works regardless of the network speed to your NAS.
Hi Jason, I’m new to all of this so forgive me for not understanding. I have a laptop upstairs which I hope to do my video editing on, and my router and NAS are both downstairs, so an Ethernet connection is difficult and the 10gbps thunderbolt adapters are quite expensive. What do you mean by “originals” and what is the involvement of your SSD in this case? Is it connected to your PC upstairs? Again forgive me for my lacking understanding as I’m new to all this. I have a NAS but wasn’t sure whether I could use it as an external drive since my laptop is upstairs, so Ive been planning to just buy an external SSD and use that without the NAS drive. Any help would be massively appreciated, many thanks
Thank you for such an incredibly informative video, especially for someone new to the world of NAS! Is there any chance that there will be a similar video guide for Qnap? I've been vacillating between Synology and Qnap for the better part of 6 months, so seeing what an equivalent setup process would be on a Qnap might finally allow me to make a decision on what system to go with.
What? There is absolutly no speed difference between static and dynamic assigned IP. It is only a difference in how the IP is assigned. Once it is obtained there is absolutly no difference in functionality or speed.
also Rob is using an APIPA address which really wouldn't be my recommendation for this setup, an APIPA address 169.254.x.x is assigned when a DHCP address can't be got automatically
For direct connections between the NAS and another system - like your PC - both sides need to support setting the MTU value - not all NIC support this feature. Also, only recommend doing this if using a direct connection - if connecting your NAS to a 10g network, avoid changing in the MTU.
Thank you for this great video. We are on a Mac. Your video mentions another video for Mac users to map using the ISCSI initiator. Is there such a video?
I always learn something but there are always more questions. So, you can create multiple volumes within a storage pool for different uses. But... why would you want to do that ? What are the benefits ? And the detriments, if any ? Static vs Dynamic IP address : What about an IP Reservation on the router instead of the Static IP address on the NAS ? That's what I tend to do because, exactly as you state, the problem of loosing that NAS IP address number. Also, I have set static IP's only to have the router assign a different IP address several times.
An IP reservation on the router is by far the preferred method. When your network grows having the ability to manage it from one place is a must. Setting static IPs on devices is very time consuming to maintain. Just don't go anywhere near it if you value your time.
Agree with sanders. Also if you upgrade the router, a Static IP address on the NAS will simply ask new router's DHCP server rather then you manually Re-populating new Router's Static Table. the phrase "time consuming" doesn't do it justice when you have over 50+ devices😮💨
Robbie, you will need to slow-down, you gave @04:54 (also) R/W access to that folder to the Guest Account whilst the Guest Account was disabled. No biggie I would guess, with a disabled account but I would not gamble that! DHCP (leased) IP's versus fixed-ip makes no difference in speed, other then the assignment of that IP during a boot/DHCP request but that is milliseconds! However, normally the 169.254 address would be due to the Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA) where the DHCP server can not be reached. It is a non-routable IP, and formally classified as Reserved. Unless you set that address deliberately like you seem to have done, I suspect the Synology is in error indicating it to be via DHCP whilst it does not recognise self-assigned perhaps? (or set manually, in your case), and I guess you have a bug to report to Synology ;-) As for the MTU, when you do change it for 10GBe networks, always remember you will need to not only change it on both ends but also in-between, if applicable. E.g. when using switches, routers or load-balancers in-between. BTW, if you are concerned about dual-homed NAS, you may want to consider VLAN's instead, to enforce the 10GBe connection. Any chance you are also going to do a video-series on the Setup-Guides for a QuTS Hero system?
Is there any option to edit video on the cloud from the phone? Or any option to make the Nas visible in the albums of Capcut so I can edit video on the phone from the Nas
10GbE is only any good if all devices in the workflow support it. There is little point in a 10GbE NAS running via a 1Gb switch to 10GbE NIC on the editing machine, otherwise you end up with fire hose drinking straw fire hose, to continue the pipe analogy.
What is a better to simple video editing NAS now? (max 4K single users video editing NAS ) I'm about to buy a 4way NAS. Cheap: QNAP TS-433-4G (There are NO upgrades) Expensive way: Synology DS923+ Bundle 4GB? VS QNAP TS-464-4G
What speed I should expect from a DS1821 with 8 drives (drives from 4TB up to 14 TB) +1M.2mvme cache,+ synology pci 10gbE BaseT. Connected with a mac Studio Ultra using a Netgear copper 10GbE Switch and two 10nfoot Cat8 cables….. Im farrrr from 10GBe spoed :(
i don't get when i should use iscs over normal shared folders and why i should use different volumes for different shared folders .. why not have everything convenient in one place?
If I had a 10Gb network setup and a 12 bay synology NAS, but full of hard drives and I add like 256Gb SSD as cache. Could I still video edit effectively Or is it recommended getting All SSD build? I'm planning on using the NAS connected via ISCSI to edit but also want a TON of storage like using 12TB NAS hard drives and use a SSD Cache to keep the speeds up. Would using SSD's as cache work?
I am currently looking for a replacement for my DS920+ for 4K video storage. At first I thought of a DS923+. but after watching your comparison video with the DS1522+, DS1522+ is preferred to edit from, with the 10GbE RJ-45 network upgrade module. My question: Can I remove my HDD (4XToshiba 7.2 Tb formatted in SHR) from the DS920+... and put it in the DS1522+ without risk of losing data? Or does everything have to be backed up? Work from my Mini Mac M1 thanks in advance...
I have a NAS drive which is downstairs with my router whilst the laptop I intend to edit with is setup upstairs. What’s the best way for me to transfer video and audio recordings from my phone to an external drive to edit on? I considered transferring them directly to an SSD and then plugging that into my laptop and editing directly off it, but is there any way I can use my NAS to make things easier? (I don’t plan on spending £200+ on a 10gbps thunderbolt/Ethernet adapter)
Is it possible to connect NAS as DAS via USB? Ideally it would be cheaper since both PC and NAS already have a USB port and it has high enough speed. If it is not possible by default, is it possible with some PCIe card?
@@nobodyatall1886 Because it requires to buy a 10Gb card for NAS and for PC. USB 3.2 already supports 10Gb/s, event you have USB 3.1 5Gb/s which is enough. The only limitation it should be a short distance compared to ethernet cable. Do you know why it is not possible? Is it hardware limitation?
!!! Fook in h#ll !!! I’m quite a tech guy ... electrical electronics all on my working life ... and that hurt my brain ... and I wanted to get a NAS for my photos / videos !!!
1 - "dynamic IPs traditionally aren't as fast as static IPs" False. Not even a little true. I'm going to assume that was an intentional error designed to create engagement in the comments. 2 - Please don't tell people to enable jumbo frames on general networks. Unless you're doing it on a separate VLAN or an environment in which *all devices* are set for jumbo frames (and the switch), you'll create all sorts of fun frame mismatch problems (performance and connection errors with non-jumbo devices).
Do not apologise for being ridiculously thorough! Your content is beyond informative and so glad to have found an expert to assist me in my production company's network and editing workflow. Thanks and massive kudos to you good sir!
Of those not able to directly connect your NAS to your PC - in my case, my NAS is in another room, on another floor - I recommend using video editing software that supports local proxies. I put the originals on my NAS and then use DaVinci Resolve to create local proxies on a scratch disk (SSD) dedicated for this purpose. This approach works very well and works regardless of the network speed to your NAS.
Hi Jason, I’m new to all of this so forgive me for not understanding. I have a laptop upstairs which I hope to do my video editing on, and my router and NAS are both downstairs, so an Ethernet connection is difficult and the 10gbps thunderbolt adapters are quite expensive. What do you mean by “originals” and what is the involvement of your SSD in this case? Is it connected to your PC upstairs? Again forgive me for my lacking understanding as I’m new to all this. I have a NAS but wasn’t sure whether I could use it as an external drive since my laptop is upstairs, so Ive been planning to just buy an external SSD and use that without the NAS drive. Any help would be massively appreciated, many thanks
You are an utter LEGEND, thank you so much for being so thorough!
Thank you for such an incredibly informative video, especially for someone new to the world of NAS!
Is there any chance that there will be a similar video guide for Qnap?
I've been vacillating between Synology and Qnap for the better part of 6 months, so seeing what an equivalent setup process would be on a Qnap might finally allow me to make a decision on what system to go with.
Watching this is so compliavated and nerdy. Jeez bring back drobo please. I’m begging. Please so this on a Mac.
What? There is absolutly no speed difference between static and dynamic assigned IP. It is only a difference in how the IP is assigned. Once it is obtained there is absolutly no difference in functionality or speed.
also Rob is using an APIPA address which really wouldn't be my recommendation for this setup, an APIPA address 169.254.x.x is assigned when a DHCP address can't be got automatically
For direct connections between the NAS and another system - like your PC - both sides need to support setting the MTU value - not all NIC support this feature. Also, only recommend doing this if using a direct connection - if connecting your NAS to a 10g network, avoid changing in the MTU.
Bro, I'd be lost without you!
anyone have a link to the Mac version for this video that Eddie did mentioned in the video? I cannot find it on the channel...
Thank you for this great video. We are on a Mac. Your video mentions another video for Mac users to map using the ISCSI initiator. Is there such a video?
I always learn something but there are always more questions. So, you can create multiple volumes within a storage pool for different uses. But... why would you want to do that ? What are the benefits ? And the detriments, if any ?
Static vs Dynamic IP address : What about an IP Reservation on the router instead of the Static IP address on the NAS ? That's what I tend to do because, exactly as you state, the problem of loosing that NAS IP address number. Also, I have set static IP's only to have the router assign a different IP address several times.
An IP reservation on the router is by far the preferred method. When your network grows having the ability to manage it from one place is a must. Setting static IPs on devices is very time consuming to maintain. Just don't go anywhere near it if you value your time.
Agree with sanders. Also if you upgrade the router, a Static IP address on the NAS will simply ask new router's DHCP server rather then you manually Re-populating new Router's Static Table. the phrase "time consuming" doesn't do it justice when you have over 50+ devices😮💨
Hi Rob, Great explained as always. Thank you! Would it be possible to show the similar topic on a Qnap under Windows too? 😊
Robbie, you will need to slow-down, you gave @04:54 (also) R/W access to that folder to the Guest Account whilst the Guest Account was disabled. No biggie I would guess, with a disabled account but I would not gamble that!
DHCP (leased) IP's versus fixed-ip makes no difference in speed, other then the assignment of that IP during a boot/DHCP request but that is milliseconds!
However, normally the 169.254 address would be due to the Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA) where the DHCP server can not be reached.
It is a non-routable IP, and formally classified as Reserved.
Unless you set that address deliberately like you seem to have done, I suspect the Synology is in error indicating it to be via DHCP whilst it does not recognise self-assigned perhaps? (or set manually, in your case), and I guess you have a bug to report to Synology ;-)
As for the MTU, when you do change it for 10GBe networks, always remember you will need to not only change it on both ends but also in-between, if applicable. E.g. when using switches, routers or load-balancers in-between.
BTW, if you are concerned about dual-homed NAS, you may want to consider VLAN's instead, to enforce the 10GBe connection.
Any chance you are also going to do a video-series on the Setup-Guides for a QuTS Hero system?
Is there any option to edit video on the cloud from the phone? Or any option to make the Nas visible in the albums of Capcut so I can edit video on the phone from the Nas
Can you use the SAN / iSCSI connection setup on a laptop and still have the drive if you are off your home network?
10GbE is only any good if all devices in the workflow support it. There is little point in a 10GbE NAS running via a 1Gb switch to 10GbE NIC on the editing machine, otherwise you end up with fire hose drinking straw fire hose, to continue the pipe analogy.
Or...direct connect the NAS over 10G, point to point.
I love your channel but the speed difference thing with static vs dhcp is ridiculous.
What is a better to simple video editing NAS now? (max 4K single users video editing NAS ) I'm about to buy a 4way NAS. Cheap: QNAP TS-433-4G (There are NO upgrades) Expensive way: Synology DS923+ Bundle 4GB? VS QNAP TS-464-4G
ALso, is that Mac video for iscuzi up yet?
What speed I should expect from a DS1821 with 8 drives (drives from 4TB up to 14 TB) +1M.2mvme cache,+ synology pci 10gbE BaseT. Connected with a mac Studio Ultra using a Netgear copper 10GbE Switch and two 10nfoot Cat8 cables….. Im farrrr from 10GBe spoed :(
Thank you, as always, Rob. For those of us with only a 1 Gb connection, what will help speed up the process most, ram or SSD cache?
I find that time becomes very subjective when you're on powerful amphetamines.
i don't get when i should use iscs over normal shared folders and why i should use different volumes for different shared folders .. why not have everything convenient in one place?
If I had a 10Gb network setup and a 12 bay synology NAS, but full of hard drives and I add like 256Gb SSD as cache. Could I still video edit effectively Or is it recommended getting All SSD build?
I'm planning on using the NAS connected via ISCSI to edit but also want a TON of storage like using 12TB NAS hard drives and use a SSD Cache to keep the speeds up.
Would using SSD's as cache work?
I am currently looking for a replacement for my DS920+ for 4K video storage.
At first I thought of a DS923+.
but after watching your comparison video with the DS1522+, DS1522+ is preferred to edit from, with the 10GbE RJ-45 network upgrade module.
My question:
Can I remove my HDD (4XToshiba 7.2 Tb formatted in SHR) from the DS920+... and put it in the DS1522+ without risk of losing data?
Or does everything have to be backed up?
Work from my Mini Mac M1
thanks in advance...
Can you show performance benchmark comparing SMB and ISCSI access (sequential and random access) for a Windows machine with a 10 GB/s network?
I have a NAS drive which is downstairs with my router whilst the laptop I intend to edit with is setup upstairs. What’s the best way for me to transfer video and audio recordings from my phone to an external drive to edit on? I considered transferring them directly to an SSD and then plugging that into my laptop and editing directly off it, but is there any way I can use my NAS to make things easier? (I don’t plan on spending £200+ on a 10gbps thunderbolt/Ethernet adapter)
Why is 10gbs soo great when 40gbs is with thunderbolt. ( ok not networked but much faster) isn’t it? And avaliable on a couple of QNAPs
When will upload the mac setup?
Legend😎
*does finger guns* right!
Is it possible to connect NAS as DAS via USB?
Ideally it would be cheaper since both PC and NAS already have a USB port and it has high enough speed.
If it is not possible by default, is it possible with some PCIe card?
@@nobodyatall1886 Because it requires to buy a 10Gb card for NAS and for PC. USB 3.2 already supports 10Gb/s, event you have USB 3.1 5Gb/s which is enough.
The only limitation it should be a short distance compared to ethernet cable.
Do you know why it is not possible? Is it hardware limitation?
@@nobodyatall1886 It is ectually possible. QNAP TS-453BT3 has this features. Build in Thunderbolt 3 which is up to 40Gb/sec
Friendly note: Check your mic setup. You're popping P's hard.
!!! Fook in h#ll !!! I’m quite a tech guy ... electrical electronics all on my working life ... and that hurt my brain ... and I wanted to get a NAS for my photos / videos !!!
I'm not an idiot just stupid so I wasn't sure if I should watch this.
Ahh..but what if the idiot in question is me?
1 - "dynamic IPs traditionally aren't as fast as static IPs" False. Not even a little true. I'm going to assume that was an intentional error designed to create engagement in the comments. 2 - Please don't tell people to enable jumbo frames on general networks. Unless you're doing it on a separate VLAN or an environment in which *all devices* are set for jumbo frames (and the switch), you'll create all sorts of fun frame mismatch problems (performance and connection errors with non-jumbo devices).