Nicky Gumbel on Joyce Meyer
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2009
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Started in London in 1979 as a brush-up course for rusty churchgoers, the Alpha Course has become a worldwide phenomenon and is now held in 163 countries. It is estimated that more than 13 million people worldwide have attended an Alpha Course. The Alpha Course comprises 15 sessions held over 10 weeks and is free and open to everyone. No question is out of bounds, and participants are free to say as much or as little as they wish as they make up their own minds about the teachings of Jesus. Spirited discussions often ensue on topics ranging from "Who is God?" and "Why am I here?" to "Why is there suffering?" and "Is God a delusion?"
Wow, the best ones together. I love them both and God/Jesus above all.
So glad I came across this today thank you !!!! 💚
2 of my favorite people!! I love them so much!!
False prophets the pair of them..
Every day I ask GOD to help me to be alert to apostasy.In the last days there will be many false teachers.
Great wisdom David. We live in perilous times.
Absolutely... and here are two of the worst culprits.
Been attending Alpha, find it interesting though. Full of love and mercy. And the power of prayer, filled by the Holy Spirit was really an unforgettable experience I had. Dun understand why so much negative comments but still thankful for your "warning". God Bless!
I done the Alpha course many years ago. After learning more about the word of God i can clearly see Gumble teaches another gospel. It is New Age mysticism that he wants to promote. Ex New Ages pick it right away. He also aligns himself with well known prosperity and heretic preachers. He believes the Scriptures are not sufficient and he supports the Catholic religion when it is simply a cult.
Amen!! This is so true. I've been reading the 1-year bible plan of Nicky and God is so so good. Bless His life and to Pippa! Joyce is also one of the best preachers I have ever known. Bless their life, may they be not put down behind all the persecutions they face. They've literally changed my life, help me and guide me through my Christian journey, as I chose to follow Christ.
Because they teach a wee Jesus a Jesus you can accept wait till you meet the real Jesus a Jesus they don't know.
I listen to the bible in one year then I kept hearing him quote Joyce Meyer, that was it for me. Your quoting a false teacher,I heard one of her sermon I’m disgusted by her.
Thank you 🙏
All preachers are not perfect, but praise God for them, Nicky is a great teacher and so is Joyce. They are both encouraging us to accept Jesus into our lives and hearts. Bless them both as continue to do so.
Joyce Myers says we are little gods. She is totally heretical. She also teaches that Jesus went to hell and the demons put their feet on his head. Where in the Bible are these evil teachings.
Joyce has had a series of erroneous teachings for many years.
Yes my puntuation needs correction. Thank you for pointing that out.
And spelling
I have been involved in Alpha for ten years now. It is great introduction or refresher on basic Christianity. I strongly encourage people to find a course and go on it, or start one in their own church.
Yuck! If Alpha is for people to become Christians and is open to all, then why is there a separate course for Catholic "Christians"? Look it up!
AVOID ALPHA get back to the REAL GOSPEL with out Gumbles personal heretical bias.
@@jake3510001 100% agree. I did Alpha 20 years ago and I have only recently realised how deceitful he is.
The important point is that its daily bread! Not monthly or yearly!
this is a bit odd! In the alpha course Rev Gumbel does not cover SIN, nor repentance, nor Holiness. Alpha ignores ALL of this. I fail to see how you can teach these things in the full gaze of TV and yet, Alpha ignores biblical truth that Jesus said "you must be born again"...If Meyer were to read her bible she would know that being overly wealthy is completely again what Jesus taught..."go sell all you have, give to the poor and follow me"...neither Joyce nor Nicky could do these things!
I went through the Alpha course with my neighbour, new to the faith.
I wouldn't say that he avoided the issues of sin and repentance, but agreed, he spoke very little of them.
At the end of each video, my neighbour and I would discuss the topic, and broaden the conversation.
There were a couple of other issues that needed to be explained too.
Absolutely... she should be nowhere near teaching scripture... twists it utterly.
I have done the Alpha course and only recently figured the teachings were not unbiblical. Nicky Gumble endorsing 'The Shack' was my first clue. I feel so stupid now, but glad I have finally realised that the truth is in the scriptures, not from these false heretical teachers.
It's like watching two chickens talking about how much they like Sunday dinner.
and why we try to deny the truth of the bible and The historical Risen Lord Jesus but one thing i know is that this verse somes up what the gospels and biblical writings are.
Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!'" And he added, "These are the true words of God."
Amen🙏
I would like to know if Mr Gumbel ever worked at Ditton Place School in Balcombe West Sussex I was people there and I do recognise the name and also his visual looks looks like the same person I knew as a child as one in the stomach and get back in for me on this information kind regards London England
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should be (with an open Mind) correction of the typo above .(openr not)oops
I beleive if you study Matthew, Mark Luke & John The New testament in the NIV translation, . If you are a sincere seeker of the truth. And read it with an openr not you will come to the right conclusion . Jesus is the Son Of God came in human form died on the cross to take the punishment your sins deserverd . Rose again on the 3rd day was seen by over 500people after his resurrection over a 6 week period. was seen ascending into Heaven with his Holy Angels. These are facts you should not ignore
Paul O'Reilly yep for sure
Paul, I've discovered the NIV is in error. I was listening to someone read Mark and I noticed something off. So I looked up the scripture in my KJV Bible and saw that the Bible he was reading from was in error. FYI
@@susannahwhite7561 how is the niv in error please explain
@@ali-eve4279 but these arguments have already been addressed the new translations do not leave out verses they are omitted because with older maniscrpts that have been found that pre date the maniscrpts used to translate the KJV and the said verses and not in the text so it could be said the they have been added.
@@susannahwhite7561 please take a look at this video
ua-cam.com/video/YC1oU2zNC_Q/v-deo.html
Dear All: Please find and read this book: CHRIST ON THE JEWISH ROAD by Richard Wurmbrand. A must-read & must-share!
Thank you Grace. Do you have that book Christ on the Jewish Road by Richard Wumbrand?
I love Nicky Gumbel. I miss Alpha Course on God TV. What a great teacher. Go Nicky!!!!
YUCK! Do some homework OUTSIDE of the Alpha course and find out the truth about it.
The Gospel of Matthew Chapter 1:18-25, Matthew 28: 1-10, The gospel Of Luke 1: 11-22
These are historical eyewitness accounts of the events that took place.The manuscripts supporting these writings, are on public view in Libraries throughout the world. Josh Mcdowell was a sceptic who went around the world to prove there is no evidence for the biblical writings. He came back and wrote the Book EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT is a world authority on the Evidence for the Bibles Authenticity.
Thank God for Joyce Meyer and the power of her testimony
“Rome Sweet Home” by Scott Hahn & salvationisfromthejews.com Shalom🙏🏼
Many will come in my name and they shall deceive many.
Two decevers flee from both
I read the bible to strengthen my faith, it had the opposite effect. I’d love to see Nicky debate Richard Dawkins
I would love to see Nicky debate Jacob Prasch. Nicky would be out his league
Brilliant talk by two great leaders
I smell works .
Does anyone know Nikki Gumbel's views on evolution?
search youtube "John Lennox Evolution or Design? Coding in the Cell"
There is no "designed" code. DNA "code" is analogous language for a seeded chain of chemical reactions harnessing molecular and cellular replication all driven by natural selection. Evolution is fact. Most Christians accept evolution except for literalist fundies like that found in the US... and I was asking about Gumbel not fundie John Lenox who is a laughing stock in the scientific community.
@@sweetsweatyfeet watch the video, not just the title ;)
@@sweetsweatyfeet
Evolution is not a fact, it's a theory.
Most Christians do not accept evolution. God created man and woman - not monkeys that turned to humans.
Have you never read 1Corinthians 1:27 "God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise" - John Lenox would surely be very proud for being a laughing stock amoung the godless scientific community. Believe me, he does not want to please them.
Yes, he was asked but said he cant see a problem with evolution over millions of years. Answers in Genesis did an article on this.
@EmploymentPrograms If you feel like that, why do you remain there? It will be more honorable to leave.
I challenge you to prove they didn't write there eyewitness accounts of the events all the people they interviewed were living at the time of the writings.Unfortunately people think its some sort of conspiracy the gospel writers were involved in it Nothing will persuade a person to Believe what is true and Historically accurate if they are unwilling to admit God is real and they are a sinner in Need of his forgiveness. investigate and then come back and tell me they are not accurate?
I'm not being disrespectful but if his knowlegdge were outstanding and he doesn't Believe they are true. There is another reason why he is trying to disprove the Gospels as true and accurate eyewitness testimonies of the Historical events surrounding the person of Jesus Christ his miracles his words ( words only a lunatic could say or God as he claimed to be)and his death and resurrection.
Only God knows what is in The hearts and minds of sinful man.
@sweetsweatyfeet Pretty sure he rejects evolution. I read his book "Challenging Lifestyle" and Im not sure, but I think he touched on the subject of evolution, and as far as I can remember, he does not believe in it. He is also generally quite a conservative christian, so he is probably a creationist.
He is not a creationist. Unlike in the USA far fewer British Christians reject evolution. The British evangelical John Stott was very publicly pro-evolution and Gumbel follows in the same vein
Every one of you who get on here to criticize either one of these people will answer to God one day. Mark my word. You don't know anyone's heart. God didn't call you or anyone else to get online and judge people; you really know NOTHING about either of these Christians ministers. I have watched Joyce for many, many years and I have NEVER heard her say one thing that contradicts the gospel. You are treading on dangerous ground and you've been warned !
God does call us to judge the spirits and to recognize false teachers. There is nothing wrong in it: moreover, it's important for our own spiritual health and for keeping the Gospel clear. Joyce M preaces the prosperity gospel which is not the Gospel of Jesus. She does not contradicts the gospel: she twists it - which is more dangerous. Nicky G has similar ideas - as if God was our servant to deliver us everything we ever hoped for. "Because He loves us"
These things can be (and should be) pointed out, there is nothing wrong in listening to a human being with a critical ear. In the light of the way I understand the Bible today I believe that Joyce M is a false teacher, a wolf in sheep skin. We will all answer to God one day: who did we listen to? Did we open our Bible and examed their teaching in the light of His word? The Bible warns us agains false teachers. Theye are here among us.
Some on here have said if you don't agree with the doctrine of a certain preacher or belief system, you are being judgmental. But in choosing Christianity, aren't we "judging" that other religious sects are wrong? Aren't we judging that Christ is the Savior of all?
The Bible says, "The love of money is the root of all evil." If Prosperity Preacher's platforms start with greed. Should we really follow their teachings? Many of these "Name it and Claim it" proponents also teach humans are born "good." Yet God's Word states, "There is no one who does good, not one."
I became a Christian through a Crusade that the late Billy Graham held. Oh, he asked for donations, but that was never the focus of his teachings. He never intimated that by giving money to him, you would receive money. The only thing he promised was that if we received Christ, Christ would receive us.
Why does Nicky Gumble endorse Joyce Meyer?? I became a Christian after the Alpha course and used to listen to Joyce Meyer - however praise God for the gift of discernment! Joyce Meyer teachers false stuff in amongst some truth. Its very deceptive!! I suggest we all stick to biblical preachers like John Piper or John MacArthur. I realise No one is perfect, but at least these guys are biblical and can therefore be trusted.
Nicky gumble teaches we are born good, he does not teach sin and repentance.
Misinformation....articles I have seen "by him" show otherwise
Dee Bee
Someone commenting on youtube said they just finished the Alpha course and that all people are born good. When I asked if murdered were born good he said yes but they just commit wrong doings later. This is not what the bible tells us. He also said we should not judge any christian religion or the pope, when the catholic church has clearly added many heresies that are not in the bible. So He obviously has learned false teaching from the Alpha course.
Dee Bee
Here are some good videos about the problems with Alpha if you are interested.
ua-cam.com/video/n6DjxpYR7mk/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Ll0A00LqKeM/v-deo.html
Everyone has opinions and I wouldn't go on what someone on youtube said about finishing Alpha and saying "this is what they said", it's easy for things to be misinterpreted, and/or, if the Leaders aren't trained properly they could be interjecting their own spin on things. I've never heard Nicky Gumbel say, "we are born good". One of the sessions is "Why Did Jesus Die"....this obviously brings to light that we are all sinners. UA-cam videos that are against Alpha and Nicky are assuming cos "this" or "that" wasn't mentioned that it is not believed in. Alpha is an introduction to basic Christianity, many who are seeking come to faith through Alpha. It doesn't stop there, they are encouraged to take follow-up courses so that they can grow in the truth and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Should a Christian preacher own a $10 million jet, multiple homes worth millions of dollars and multiple cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode?
It’s is grotesque to see Gumbel validate Meyer by being interviewed by her…she’s an obvious grifter and fraud. Shameful choice by him.
Why not. It has nothing to do with the real Jesus Christ. Classic bait and switch.
I would use the word fabrication, not conspiracy.
Read Bart Erhman's Forged or Jesus Interupted, or watch him in some of his many videos on this medium.
His knowledge of the gospels is outstanding. try watching Bart Erhman (3/21/11), the first 30 odd minutes anyway.
Thank you for the Bart Ehrman recommendation. Really a lot of good info there. In return I recommend looking into Andy Stanley, if ya haven't already. Thanks again :-)
I really really don’t understand Nicky Gumbel. He’s clearly educated, appears intelligent, trained as a barrister for goodness sake- and yet he has stated time and time again “I read the New Testament and came to the conclusion-it’s true”. So much for his legal training then. And he constantly quotes The Gospel of John - seemingly unaware that nobody apart from a biblical literalist, believes that it’s anything other than a work of theological fiction.
Are those snake sculptures on the wall? Hmmm.
Gumbel sounds like Adam having a conversation with the snake after Eve eat the fruit?
Joyce is a false teacher
Aaron James Why?
@@aaronjames7266 But did you pay attention during the alpha course? Of course he's preaching the true gospel.
Aaron James I’ve been involved with Alpha for years. NAR is a myth. Don’t believe everything the heresy hunting valves tell you.
Aaron James It absolutely is a myth.
askdrbrown.org/library/dispelling-myths-about-nar-new-apostolic-reformation
He's not born again
@EmploymentPrograms I dont believe you. If you succeeded in filming Nicky Gumbel physically beating his church members, posted it on UA-cam and gave the link to me so that I could watch it - then I would believe you. But you can't do that, can you?
Nick Gambel's eyes look dark a, dead, cold. Normally people believe in God have speial light in their eyes! Hmmmm....🤔When he smiles, his eyes dont..
He has deep set eyes … that’s all …
False prophets!
'There are historical eyewitness accounts of the events that took place'.
You appear to be living in a fantasy world.
If you think that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote their respective gospels, I suggest you do some research.
I love Alpha but I would not endorse Joyce Meyer and her teachings!
Nicky gumble teaches we are born good, he does not teach sin and repentance.
When I went to an Alpha course, at the end of it, the person in charge asked us "What has Alpha done for you?" What?!!! The question should be "What has JESUS done for you?" Nicky Gumble is ecumenical and is trying to merge the Roman Catholics (who believe you need works to be saved plus Jesus) and Protestants. Do your research.................this is a deceptive "feel good" course. Where is the repentance of sin?
@@judiw2045 I am almost through an Alpha course, only two more sessions to go. I find it all too sickly sweet, what it should be is Brimstone and Fire! I have voiced my opinions about the course in part, but am keeping my powder dry until I have completed the course. After the session where Mr Gumble (I can't call him Reverend as he seems to have missed the point of that title altogether) talks about speaking in tongues, and implying that anyone can learn how to do it, I just had to go out for a cigarette and a walk around the church. God works in mysterious ways and this was a fine example of that; during my cigarette walk I met a heroin addict who had been injecting in a secluded area of the church's grounds, after chatting with him for about 20 minutes I had given him details of where and how to get help, and four days later an acquaintance of mine who works in drug rehabilitation services informed me that he had been to see them and asked for help. I pray that he recovers from his addictions.
which of the 40,000+ manmade groups do they belong to? do they themselves know? 40,000 & still counting, all a chasing after wind.
And ah ah and um ah and ah
A very good business model for making $$$ off of vulnerable people.
gumbels books on alpha have copyirght nikky gumble.they are wee bible story's so he is making money out of the bible.can this be ok.?of course laywers are knone for thier honesty.lol
Copyright law if you are a lawyer or not protects all authors of any material in the UK. It doesn't mean you make money out of it. However I should say that everyone needs to make money whatever you do. It is one of the realities of life.
Why is this an issue.
What is the problem with making money?
If $ becomes your God, then it is a problem, but if you use it to serve God...what really is wrong with that?
Maybe the books cost money, but they offer all the videos on line free of charge.
It’s copywritten to protect alpha not the content the content is biblical, no one makes money from alpha it’s about the questions new Christians and ppl thinking of becoming Christian have and a platform where they can get answers to those questions, in my opinion that can only be a good thing
Sounds o.k., but i would avoid their teaching.
Strange his fundamentalist leanings coming from the Anglican church. He even endorses speaking in tongues which is much closer to American style fundie nutters.
If you know your Bible, you will realize that some Christians (not all will have that gift) spoke in tongues, it is nothing new.
Dee Bee
They did not speak in incoherent babble like today, but could be understood by people of other languages. God allowed the people to hear it in their native language. He did this to spread the Gospel at that time as the disciples did not speak that many languages.
Acts 2
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to *speak with other tongues,* as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that *every man heard them speak in his own language.*
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?
8 *And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?*
I agree wholeheartedly with you susan scott...tongues are for a reason, not incoherent babble
@@dlg1776 All the people gathered in Jerusalem spoke one of three languages already - Koine Greek (the language of the NT and of commerce), Hebrew (the language of synagogue and temple) and/or Aramaic (the popular language of the region.) Many spoke all three. The miracle of Pentecost was that they heard them speaking in their "own" languages (that is, their native languages). Tongues were not needed to communicate the gospel. When Peter stood to preach he did just fine in a single language with thousands converted.
And Paul, when speaking of tounges in 1 Cor says that their purpose is to "build one's self up spiritually." There is NOWHERE in the New Testament that says the purpose of tongues was evangelism.
Wow, two false prophets in the same room. Flee from these wolves people.
Gumble says explicitly that Gods prophetic word is not sufficient.
They all do and think that they can gainsay what has already been given once by God unto saints.
We must contend now as the foes of the faith are in our midst.
Another name to be alarmed at Smith Wigglesworth who saw Jesus appear his window and punched people in the stomach in order to heal them. Daniel Chsnd and Palavachi idolise this dubious man who also taught the error of believers omnipotence as having the same nature as Christl
So what about at 3.05?
Please say exactly what you.mean.
A bible pusher called ??? Even though a little bible reading may be useful, when you know God in your heart, then the bible becomes less and less important; because the bible helps you find God in your heart.
What! Have you ever read the Bible from cover to cover? "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the WORD of God" Romans 10:17.
@@judiw2045 Hi Judi, yes I read the bible through at least 5 times before and during writing my unofficial, autobiographic and spirtual thesis! Have you ever read the Koran?
He's a con artist
Jesus said "Many false Christ`s and prophets will appear and deceive many ,see! I have told you before" Nicky Gumbel`s intentions may be sincere [ to unite the world in peace with Jesus] but those intentions can still be misleading.
Rubbish