People are saying it's cheaper to buy a real football table than the LEGO one. If you're buying real Ferraris instead of the LEGO ones I'll fully support your claims 💪 Edit: 7/12/2022 These remarks have been getting mixed reactions and I totally get it, the argument is super silly to begin with and I'll be the first to admit it. But to put more words into this, I just feel the comparison between this set and a real table shouldn't be made. You're buying into a completely different experience, it allows for customisation, it has tons of minifigures (if you care about that) you can build it yourself and you can use the pieces for a lot more stuff than just playing the game if you take the set apart. It's the same with the Globe, the Typewriter the NES, the flower sets and probably others. If you wanted the real objects you could always get them for a LOT cheaper, but you get the LEGO versions because you want something else entirely right? So how can you compare two objects that don't fulfil the same purpose? I'm not defending the set in any way whatsoever. Like I mentioned in the video there's things I like about it and there's things I don't like about it. If you want amazing LEGO sets there's plenty out there, I'm making a video about it as we speak. But at the same time there's been far worse releases than the table football which I made sure to make perfectly clear in my reviews for those of you claiming I'm totally biased and love everything LEGO puts out.
The difference is Tiago, people will buy this set because of its functions. I don't believe people who buy speed champion Ferraris are buying them with the intention to drive them are they?
An actual foosball table top game can be had for well under 200 USD. Love me some Lego, but this definitely misses the mark as a playable product, and is much more a display piece with some play functions.
“People are saying it’s cheaper to by a real version than the Lego version. If you’re buying a real version that’s orders of magnitude more expensive than the LEGO version instead of the LEGO version I’ll fully support your claims 💪” ??
I'm okay with them making it smaller. I'm not okay with them keeping it the same price it would've been had it been full price and just adding unnecessary stuff like the extra minifigures and the stand to justify the price. I know this is how Lego does pricing but they need to be willing to change it if the original design isn't working out
Yeer True. Hay. Add for the price of all the mini fig s and if the mini fig s will go up in value just for thos. New mini figs and the new hair piece s I got a great thort what to do with this set. I'm Shaw it will drop in price ..as all way s if buy the set when it first came out price is high on a new set. Wight fear few munth till it's on sale. If not sold out and price will drop I'm Shaw. And get the set then at a lower price 👌😊👍easy
i really do hope they stop adding unnecessary things to bump up the price it's getting fucking insane recently with things like light bricks and motor functions
Very true, i think selling the extra minifigures alongside the set rather than in it would have been better for those that like the minifigures and those that just want the set. I for one love minifigures but I wouldn't want to buy this entire set just to get them.
Burying the heads of disembodied rivals in the concrete under your player dugout is a bit creepy but football teams will do anything to get to the top.
As a football fan, I do want to have this set, but at this price point it is reasonable to expect 22 outfield players rather than 10. I have no problem with them including extra players and parts; in fact they add to the appeal to the set, but they need to be stored in a better way than having a separate section that has to take up an extra chunk of display space. At this point, a juicy discount is needed to push me over the fence.
A $250 minifigure set with a disappointing foosball table on the side. Huge pass. And I'm sorry but you can't buy a Ferrari for the same price as the Lego set.
The LEGO Ideas are kind of amazing aren't they? Every time I see a new one that pokes my interest I always have to think: 'At this point I'm starting to ask myself, is there anything you can't build in LEGO anymore?'. And to be fair. I like that thought :D. Love your reviews Tiago, I'm not really doing anything with LEGO anymore, but it's fun keeping up with what is out there nowadays. Maybe when my son is a bit older I can play with this great toy once again.
Such a niche product, I can't imagine there's a whole lot of table football fans who are also massive lego fans willing to spend more than the cost of an actual table for this
Considering it's the most popular sport in the world, odds are quite a number of football fans are also Lego fans. In that regard this is a lot less niche than, say, the Atari set or the big Bowser. That said, I think Lego could have done a much better job to tap into that huge potential.
Uff. I am not a fan of sets that prioritize minifigs and accessories over the build. Not a bad set for novelties sake, but seems like a really poor value if what you want is a Lego foosball table.
Extra players could have been smaller packs or sets. Like a street/indoor game set with figures and some small goals. Especially for kids with an ear aid and/or vitiligo that might be priced out at the full set price. I've had "normal" small table games like this and they get used for a bit before being forgotten. At least the build sounds nice.
Cheaper to get an actual table football layout than the Lego set equivalent. The price was overbloated with all the unnecessary minifigures. I would be quite surprised if this set sells well at all.
@@TiagoCatarino Weak argument dude, ferraris are not football tables. Football tables are way cheaper and comparable in price to Lego sets like this one. Ferraris are not, nor can you actually ride a Lego ferrari so the overal value is not even on the same comparison level.
@@alterego2275 Sadly this is the case with a lot of people working or that worked for large companies, they are so dishonest with their product "reviews" just to keep a good face with the corporation instead of helping them in giving actual invaluable criticism so that they dont keep making the same mistakes that will cost them far more money. Its like Lego forgot that there is no "too big to fail" company, and that they can just as easily get back to the same bankrupt status of the early 2000s if they keep screwing up their actual consumer base or making mediocre products.
If you think about it could could say the same about most lego sets. Why buy lego optimus prime if you can by the Hasbro toy cheaper. Why buy anything from speed champions when the die cast model car is cheaper etc.
@@naysunhuang hmm its a subjective outweighing. I love speedchampions and diecast models. And i buy speedchampions to have fun building, afterwards they just collect dust too. And here on the soccer table, imo, you can play with more ppl and stuff on a real one ig
@@TiagoCatarino That's a terrible comparison. No Ferrari is cheaper than a Lego set. You're oddly defensive of this set whose price you criticized in this very video.
@@Eidolon1andOnly The irony of it all is that he even stated that he wasnt interested in the set before he got a free trip to a fancy Lego event and got the set for free (with all the marketing attached to it). The amount of privilege he got around this set compared to regular Lego buyers is on a different level.
I was okay with LEGO making the model smaller to meet standards. I don't like that they kept the extremely high price and then added a stand and a ton of minifigure parts in order to justify the price. Especially when the typical table football game are made with monochrome figures. LEGO should have just included the number of figures needed in all red/blue color and done away with the stand and added minifigure parts, and reduced the price.
The uniforms make me think Star Trek. Maybe this might end up inspiring a whole Lego Trek fan made effort. Selling the extra figures might work out for people who want to get some cash back. Almost like a rebate.
It looks like a fun set but the price and the flaw make it a bit unappealing. If they would have left out the additional figures and the stage it could be cheaper.
Im still asking myself, who is actually gonna buy this? It cant be displayed, it can be played but who has 250$ and buys this instead of something much cooler?
Idk i think its cool and i think lego has lowered the price but personally would have spent 20$ more to get something like the mighty bowser if i did didnt already have it
The set's OK - but as a football fan, I would have bought it purely for the minifigures if the price was better... and really think they should printed the legs as shorts - i.e., skin showing at the knees. As it is, i'll just pick up the torsos and some heads on Bricklink or Brickowl
They could've even compensated for the skin tones by having long white socks for the lower part of the legs. the same with the shoudlers actually - prints to show sleeves and then long white strips for under the elbow. Would at least make the figures feel more like they're wearing an actual football uniform and not all playing in onsies.
@@scribeyesteak8758 Exactly... I know it would put the price up but dual moulded legs would be perfect... Football needs new sets and I just hope that if this doesn't sell well, Lego won't consider making any sets. I noticed the next CMF series has a referee, yet they still haven't given us opposition for the CMF series 4 player.
My main concern for this set was durability and play features. Years ago I asked for Lego Soccer sets for either my Birthday or Christmas and got the Mega Block Foosball table instead. It did have the full set of players, but you couldn't twist the knobs without pulling up the bricks. It was terrible. The scoreboard seems like it would be better by using flag on a pole. When you get a goal, flip a flag down or up. The choice they went with is bizarre. Anyone that's worked with Technic enough should know those elements are used for fixed positions, not sliding elements. Even a kid that grew up building Bionicle figures could've told them that. I'll have to hesitate at that price point, as I still want Bowser, and I can't get both.
I really like that LEGO is working on wider representation in minifigures but I don't like how some of these parts are only available through this set at the moment. Why does someone need to buy a $250 set in order to make a figure with vitiligo? Will people still be able to do that once this set gets discontinued? I think LEGO should make more of these elements available in Pick a Brick or include a wider variety of heads/hairpieces with more sets. Right now they're putting all the new parts in one set that becomes more inaccessible due to the increased price.
Who the ruck cares about representation. I hope this is the last set with that Vitiligo in it. If not then hopefully the next set will be even more expensive.
LOL it turns out that the some original wooden Table Football sets are cheaper than the smaller LEGO one 🤣🤣 Also was watching this and just thinking that this was such a FIFA moment
@@TiagoCatarino actual ferrarris are thousands of times more expensive than speed champions sets and also serve a completely different purpose. This is a football table meant to be played with just like an actual table, so it's a genuinely good comparison
The action feature part could be replicated even over 20 years ago. It wouldn’t look pretty, but it could have been fun. A street base plate with some technic and basic bricks might do the trick. Kicking around marble or small bouncy balls. Oh and if I were thinking ahead something could have been rigged up to decrease stress on Lego pieces. Teflon tape (plumbing tape) could be wrapped around the axles. Some kind of non Lego rubber thread through a Tecnic pin hole for shock absorption. Wish I had that idea back in the day.
That axel element will mostly likely the first thing to break, I think there might be enough room to the double axel rubber element to prevent the score elements from sliding if you really wanted to stop the movement.
I can understand why they had to scale it down, and have no real issue with that. Sure, the problems they had could surely have been solved with some new parts and materials (other brands can do CFRP axles, why can't Lego), but that would only have added to the price. I do have an issue that to meet the predefined price they thrown in so much unnecessary stuff. I sure see the value for minifig collectors, but then wouldn't it have been much better as two separate sets? And so many figs, but somehow they don't really look like football players at all, or are they all playing in their track suits? I had rather seen this set with just 10 good figures and a much lower price tag.
At that point they should have cancelled the Idea project if they were not able to properly make it in set form. This is not a Medieval Smith house where you can shape it how you want, a football table has a specific function and design, going off from the intended design defeats the purpose of having a football table.
@@Bionickpunk exactly because it needs to be functional, I'm okay with changes to the design. The fan designer only did a digital design that simply wouldn't work in the plastic. The Lego designers did what was necessary to make it work. And in that regard succeeded. It's still a football table (albeit a tiny one) and it does its job pretty well. I actually have more issue with them changing a lot in pure display sets, like that Blacksmith, or recently with the Jazz Quartet.
The other day I went to the Lego shop, and I saw they had the football table on display. So me and my brother played a couple matchs with it, which i ended up winning, and I have to say I’m impressed. Although it was a little crammed it was very functional
Series idea for Tiago: (day 10) Tiago should make a subreddit where people can post Mocs that he reviews and gives feedback monthly/weekly. It’s going to be good for both the fans who are looking to improve and will probably take Tiago less time to make.
As someone who used to play a lot of Table Football and still has a Tornado brand table in their house, I was very excited when I heard about this set. I'm a little disappointed in the small size compared to the original idea, but I totally understand the reason for that limitation. That being said, this is too expensive for what you get. If I ever find it available for a really good sale price then I might pick it up just for display purposes.
I believe that the designers did a great job transforming the original Ideas submission into a set that feels more LEGO. Yes, it's a bit of waste in terms of minifigure parts, but the kids being able to represent themselves and their friends on the players seems a great feature to me. Won't buy it for me because it's not on my interests, but is a really cool set.
Sounds pretty woke to be honest. I'm wondering if this "representation" aspect of this set was done purely to dissuade criticism, as identity politics and woke culture make some people afraid of criticizing something like this out of fear for being labeled an "ist" or a "phobe."
@@Eidolon1andOnly If it really went (or cared) for the inclusiveness and representation rout, then it should have been a cheaper set to promote such ideals (or just split the football table and colorful audience into different sets to have cheaper two options). Stuff like "Everyone is Awesome" set is a good example of doing it right, 11 colorful Lego printless minifigures (pieces we never got in these colors), presented well and being sold originally for around 35 dollars. You can repurpouse all the new rainbow recolors in a much more affordable price range. The Football table set has all these honestly neat minifigure variants, but they are utterly wasted on such an expensive set, making it even harder for actual PoC to "represent themselves" due to the high barrier to entry with the price range. And those that state "oh there is always bricklink", yeah but these one time set exclusive parts are just gonna have way larger prices on the aftermarket compared to parts from more affordable sets that more people are able to buy and then resell. This can be fixed by selling these new minifigure variants in more cheaper sets, but then it removes the biggest reason to even get the Football table. Lego really made an L with this one, no matter how you look at it.
@@Bionickpunk I completely agree. If Lego truly cared about this aspect they would have done something with these figs in a more affordable and accessible set, not lump in in with this table football set. They could have done this with two $40 people pack sets consisting of 20-22 figs each, or any other kind of smaller, cheaper set. Personally I think it would be really cool for Lego to come up with an entirely new theme, similar to, but distinct from the Lego City theme, with a hyper attention to detail and realism, with sets designed to work together and be modular regardless of set size, where instead of the traditional yellow fig, all the figs have the more realistic fleshtones. The buildings and vehicles for these sets could reflect the different regions and cultures they're supposed to represent too.
@@Eidolon1andOnly Yeah, start introducing the wide variety of different fleshtone minifigures in more affordable sets, so that these parts dont end up being hard to get later on. They already opened the flood gates with colored minifigures since early 2000s, no going back now. We can still have both all yellow minifigure sets and colored ones. Lego Friends and Elves has proven these skin tones can work in original IP themes. We already getting so many sets based on Chinese culture and communities, why not expand it to other ones beyond the mythical or far distant past. And as you said, this could open to a wide variety of set designs based on different regions (houses, vehicles, objects, pets, etc.)
Seems to me to be a sneaky and expensive way to sell the rare/new minifigs. The table is too small to play on regularly with the poor score markers, weird flag corners and sections showing the studs looking as though they should have been covered up. I think it could have been better and at the price, should've been.
Just curious if a technic tube element could be used for the counter with the axle part which would still slide easier but have some resistance? Seems like a great set when this goes on sale next year! 20% = $50 off :)
I hope that lego uses these (I’m pretty sure) new face prints of the vitiligo and ear piece head prints, preferably in a more affordable manner, I feel like it’s so cool and
While I would not have been disappointed with a cheaper price point for only 10 minifigs, I see the extra as more than added value for me. This isn't a set I'm jumping to get right away but I will pick it up at some point to have a bunch of unique minifigs in my modular city.
Olá Tiago, sou um grande fã , voltei aos legos agora aos 20 anos e adoro fazer construções alternativas de sets , e gostaria de saber como as pessoas fazem MOCs … elas simplesmente compram peça por peça? Compram um set específico ou compram varios sets creator? O que farias se planeasses ter uma grande coleção de tijolos variados rapidamente de forma mais efetiva?
I would've been okay with the figures having faces in a solid white or black color, like the real games are. I know a lot of people will appreciate the figures but it would've preferred a cheaper set personally.
@@oddvegan9797 This is not about race. Potawadingdong is referring to the minifigure that has vitiligo. He thinks not many football players have vitiligo so there´s no reason for LEGO to go out it´s way to make a football player with vitiligo. I know many football players and I don´t know anyone who has vitiligo as bad as the minifigure. Potawadingdong probably doesn´t know vitiligo isn´t always that noticable, actually many great players had vitiligo for example: Romario, Ronaldinho and Jamie Carragher. Lego had to make the vitiligo very noticeable so everyone could regocnise it. I mean if it was just a white skin dude with even wither little spots I wouldn´t have recognised it. I think it´s great they did include it in this set, I mean they were already manufracturing the head it´s not like they had to design something new and the designing of the head increased the price of the set.
I bought it (on sale for $175 USD) specifically for the minifig hair pieces and heads . . . and also tons of unique and fun looking parts really doesn't hurt, either!
My intuition for moving those score markers is to put my thumb on top and my forefinger on the side I wish to move it to, then apply a torque to the ball to counteract bending the axle element as I try to slide it. I don't actually know if that would work, but it didn't look like you were using the described technique, so maybe your complaint is moot.
Lego should just bring back the old football pitch, instead of this. Overpriced, in terms of looks its pretty uninteresting, useless parts, I cant see the point of this.
This set is again another example of why I'm a little bit disappointed about LEGO IDEAS in the last time. The actual IDEAS set was far bigger and I would have not been interested in buying this, If I had voted for a pretty much different set. Same thing with the Motorised Lighthouse - different scale and size. I understand that LEGO needs to rework the sets, but those two sets have been reworked way too much in my opinion and therefore are no longer interesting for the group of people who picked it on the IDEAS website. The next problem with IDEAS - too many big and expensive sets are being released and the small ones are only given away as GWP, instead of really making them easily available for the fans. Personally, the Table Football is one of the least interesting sets released this year :/
I had the opportunity to play and it was a tragedy! After 30 seconds I had the tip of the handle in my hand. Claustrophobic pitch, no pleasure from the game, very poor set, I do not recommend.
when i was younger, Mega block made a babyfoot set, bigger and way more playable, not veery expensive, like 50$. This set is expensive because of the collector stuff, not the play feature
Well the price is now $175. I guess Lego realized they messed up and will eat the cost which is not something Lego does at all. It's a decent set for the new discounted price though.
WOW! I am so impressed with this entire review and not for the reason you might think. When the video started and we hear Lego has invited you to France to review this set, I was like “oh here we go”. In fact I almost swiped right (you get the reference) as I did not want a biased take. Instead we get an absolutely honest unapologetic review. Mr. Catarino, I have to say, just like legos’ customer service you sir are second to none. I’ve been collecting Lego’s for 25 years and watch countless videos and reviews on the bricks, and I have enjoyed yours since you left Lego. However this video has solidified you as the preeminent reviewer…💯😉
It's cool to justify this as a mini-table with lots of useful building parts if taken apart, but with thinking of LEGO in this way, its easy to justify it as "a set and lots of parts" but it should be "a set OR lots of parts". What would you really do with the $250 or so amount of parts with 20 minifigs in football clothes? It's cool if it stays as a table, but if you really wanted a mini football table, you can buy proper ones much more affordably, and the spare LEGO pieces here for MOCs seem much too expensive to buy just for parts.
This set should have been canceled. Way too much time and resources were spent on making the table semi-functional, while making silly compromises which detract from both its playability and its value as a display piece, just to keep the high price. The inclusion of all the minifig pieces was unnecessary as this is supposed to be a foosball table, not a football/soccer pitch. There was no need for realistic minifig fleshtones and hair styles. The set is actually more expensive than full sized, fully playable foosball tables. The idea should have been scrapped when they realized they couldn't make a larger playable table, and moved on to making other, better collectible or playable sets. It is a bad set as it is way too expensive to be treated as a toy/table sport game, and way too small and plain to be an eyecatching conversation piece as a display, with no universal or specific appeal.
It boggles my mind how this set even passed the review stage and got approved for set creation. This is what review stages should have done, weed out any potential issues recreating this idea project into set form would make.
@@Bionickpunk I completely agree, especially when you realize this idea had already been threatened with cancellation during its design process at least three separate times according to those who worked on the project. The only positive thing I can say about this set was that is a completely original idea which didn't require Lego to work out a licensing agreement with an intellectual property owner. Lego already has 40+ licensing agreements with auto manufacturers to Hollywood studios, and even other toy companies like Hasbro. These licenses are driving up the cost of every Lego set regardless of theme to offset the cost of the licenses and retain a healthy profit margin. The sad thing is that there seems to be no end in sight with this trend of selling licensed products as mindless consumers keep demanding more.
Regarding the extra minifigures, perhaps it was particularly important for the designer(s) to depict Football as a global, highly diverse culture, and felt strongly enough about it that Lego was okay inflating the cost of the set to preserve that aspect. The complaints about it seem to forget that the design of these sets have multiple competing considerations and there's no one answer to balancing them. Regarding the score-keeping element. I suspect they used the difficult-to-move part for display purposes. It's still technically movable, but it can be stable if the user wants it to be, compared to the alternate piece you recommended. I agree with your argument, but I'm guessing that was their reason. The one thing that I wished it had was a hole or ramp or something to drop the ball onto the field. One thing people always try to do on real foosball tables is sneakily influence the way the ball enters the field, so it's odd that a set with so much play utility ignored that aspect.
i don’t understand why the mini figures aren’t just yellow… normally skin coloured mini figures are only used when. they’re based on real people or characters. I don’t see the point of individualising them so much since it’s the complete opposite of the original, where the players are full on blue or red.
I think it’s fun. With the price reduction it’s definitely a fair deal out of the pieces and minifigures you get. Whithin the same price range I would still buy the Delorean or Tallneck+Galaxy Explorer over the table set.
I feel like the axles holding the minifigures will inevitably be the first parts to break. A much better solution would have been to use brick-built rods.
@@timohara7717 I meant something like using those reinforced 2x2 lattice pieces or something similar with a better structural integrity. You could just lay them on the side and use turntables.
Hi. I have a question. At 3.16 minute you suggest changing the piece to slide the markers.Advice to replace it with a technic connector perno? Can you tell me which? Thank you.
It's really impressive that this set works at all, but I think if I get this it's mostly going to be for the minifigure faces and hair pieces to make customs of family, friends, or just make civilians in my Lego City
@@Eidolon1andOnly Eh, think this is gonna go on sale eventually at retail and at that point, it'll be better value for the number of figures and pieces from the build itself
@@Robin0928 Still not worth it. There's better and cheaper alternatives to get the parts and minifigs than buying this set regardless of sale. Its price would need to be cut 50% or more before I'd consider buying it.
I really like this, I got to experience it in-hand at a local LEGO store where they actually set up a 'demo booth' for people to try it out. I did find that the axles had started to bend quite easily due to the extensive use there though, hopefully that's less apparent in normal use situations. It did surprise me how incredibly close this got to the actual game but, the price... It's nowhere near enough to justify as this really is just a novelty item and let's be honest, who asked for a functional LEGO football table? As a MOC concept it's really cool but as a set... well, this is what you get. Too bad.
It's cool, but at first glance it looks like it should cost 50 bucks. Then when you look closer and realize that it's quite sturdy, a price of 100 bucks is more likely. Then you look at the piececount and consider that it'll probably cost 150 to 180. That would be somewhat reasonable, and I would want to wait for discounts or good gifts from Lego to actually buy it. But then they suddenly add the crazy price Policy of Lego and end up on 250? No. Just No. I really like the idea, the playful disgn, and the look of it, but I won't give lego 70€ extra which the product isn't worth. Rather spend the money on something with a better value then.
5:20: Those are not "easter egg", but what Lego always does: dumping leftover parts from their stock into sets to save money and maximize money. Lego claim they do it for easier building, but that is of course a lie.
LEGO never does that. In my 3,5 years of working as a LEGO model designer I was never told to use certain elements to clear stock. I'm not really sure where that silly misconception comes from but here we are.
@@TiagoCatarino Just take a look into the final sets: they look like a unicorn puked inside. Purple, lime, dark tan - you can find any color except the most suitable ones. Sometimes (like the UCS ISD) you can see them even from the outside. This is an outrage for every MOCer, and creating own ideas was the original intention of Lego. What possible reason can that have to include inappropriate colors and stickers, except cutting costs? For a set that costs so much money, that is really a cheap move. Moreover, I noticed an alarming development of more scratched and off color pieces. The Lamborghini Sian and the Fiat 500 were notorious for that. Other brick producers like Cobi or Cada also have their problems, but their price tags aren't that high. If you take premium prices, you should deliver premium quality.
@@Nikioko as a mocer I appreciate the different colors. I have way too much grey white and black on my collection. The different colors are used to avoid mistakes during the build. I still do building mistakes with all the different colors and it’s a pain having to go back a dozen steps to fix mistakes. Good luck trying to find mistakes whithout a color coded build. This one isn’t really that bad in that regard. Take a look at the UCS landspeeder and you’ll cry lol. As for stickers what are you talking about? This set doesn’t have stickers
@@TiagoCatarino When I recall my childhood, the Lego sets back then didn't have all these colors, and there were a lot more parts to add per building step. But I had no real problems building the 8850 Car Chassis or the 8855 Prop Plane as a 10-year-old. You can't put this set into a showcase with glass shelves, because the bottom looks like an exploded rainbow. It doesn't apply to this set, but I mentioned stickers, because this set has prints at spots where you will never see them, while other high price sets have tons of stickers instead. In contrast, Cobi claim for their Historical Collection to have no stickers and all parts pad printed. And that includes edges of plates, if necessary. Why is this possible in Poland, but not in Denmark? And yes, mistakes happen while building. But they happen with or without multiple colors. This can also mean that you have to partly disassemble your progress, but that is part of the experience. But as a child, I learned very quickly in which properties part vary, e.g. that there are Technic axles in different lengths or that there is a difference between Technic pins with and without friction. I wonder why, today, customers shouldn't be able to distinguish a 2×3 plate from a 2×4 plate any more. Especially when we are talking about an 18+ set. I don't want to talk things bad. But this set (and other recent sets) has issues that should be addressed. And the main design error is that the players at the middle line are not facing each other. How do you kick off if nobody is facing the ball? I am certainly not alone with my criticism. You already mentioned the issue with the goal counter, which could be fixed so easily.
You missed the biggest flaw of all, one that makes the set entirely useless for its intended purpose. It's actually almost impossible to score. The ball only just fits between the defending figures. In fact, when you showed scoring, you had to keep the defenders still to to do so. But with any movement at all of the defenders, then you cannot score. This is a horribly designed set and it's no wonder it only lasted a year on shelves, and is one of the very few LEGO sets selling for less than retain value now that it's discontinued.
People are saying it's cheaper to buy a real football table than the LEGO one.
If you're buying real Ferraris instead of the LEGO ones I'll fully support your claims 💪
Edit: 7/12/2022
These remarks have been getting mixed reactions and I totally get it, the argument is super silly to begin with and I'll be the first to admit it.
But to put more words into this, I just feel the comparison between this set and a real table shouldn't be made.
You're buying into a completely different experience, it allows for customisation, it has tons of minifigures (if you care about that) you can build it yourself and you can use the pieces for a lot more stuff than just playing the game if you take the set apart.
It's the same with the Globe, the Typewriter the NES, the flower sets and probably others. If you wanted the real objects you could always get them for a LOT cheaper, but you get the LEGO versions because you want something else entirely right? So how can you compare two objects that don't fulfil the same purpose?
I'm not defending the set in any way whatsoever. Like I mentioned in the video there's things I like about it and there's things I don't like about it. If you want amazing LEGO sets there's plenty out there, I'm making a video about it as we speak. But at the same time there's been far worse releases than the table football which I made sure to make perfectly clear in my reviews for those of you claiming I'm totally biased and love everything LEGO puts out.
The difference is Tiago, people will buy this set because of its functions. I don't believe people who buy speed champion Ferraris are buying them with the intention to drive them are they?
An actual foosball table top game can be had for well under 200 USD. Love me some Lego, but this definitely misses the mark as a playable product, and is much more a display piece with some play functions.
But Tiago, both the LEGO and non-LEGO football tables do the same thing, just at very different prices!! 😳😳
Also real Ferraris are not cheaper than Lego ones
“People are saying it’s cheaper to by a real version than the Lego version.
If you’re buying a real version that’s orders of magnitude more expensive than the LEGO version instead of the LEGO version I’ll fully support your claims 💪”
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I'm okay with them making it smaller. I'm not okay with them keeping it the same price it would've been had it been full price and just adding unnecessary stuff like the extra minifigures and the stand to justify the price. I know this is how Lego does pricing but they need to be willing to change it if the original design isn't working out
Right on
Yeer True. Hay. Add for the price of all the mini fig s and if the mini fig s will go up in value just for thos. New mini figs and the new hair piece s I got a great thort what to do with this set. I'm Shaw it will drop in price ..as all way s if buy the set when it first came out price is high on a new set. Wight fear few munth till it's on sale. If not sold out and price will drop I'm Shaw. And get the set then at a lower price 👌😊👍easy
i really do hope they stop adding unnecessary things to bump up the price
it's getting fucking insane recently with things like light bricks and motor functions
Very true, i think selling the extra minifigures alongside the set rather than in it would have been better for those that like the minifigures and those that just want the set. I for one love minifigures but I wouldn't want to buy this entire set just to get them.
@@fortnitesexman They gotta add more to their already wealthy coffers somehow.
Burying the heads of disembodied rivals in the concrete under your player dugout is a bit creepy but football teams will do anything to get to the top.
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As a football fan, I do want to have this set, but at this price point it is reasonable to expect 22 outfield players rather than 10. I have no problem with them including extra players and parts; in fact they add to the appeal to the set, but they need to be stored in a better way than having a separate section that has to take up an extra chunk of display space. At this point, a juicy discount is needed to push me over the fence.
The weird part about the 5v5 teams is that indoor is usually 6v6. So it isn't a copy of either major version of the sport.
A $250 minifigure set with a disappointing foosball table on the side. Huge pass. And I'm sorry but you can't buy a Ferrari for the same price as the Lego set.
He's making this ferrari comparison on lot's of comments here, I usually enjoy his reviews but this is a pathetic argument.
The LEGO Ideas are kind of amazing aren't they? Every time I see a new one that pokes my interest I always have to think: 'At this point I'm starting to ask myself, is there anything you can't build in LEGO anymore?'. And to be fair. I like that thought :D. Love your reviews Tiago, I'm not really doing anything with LEGO anymore, but it's fun keeping up with what is out there nowadays. Maybe when my son is a bit older I can play with this great toy once again.
Such a niche product, I can't imagine there's a whole lot of table football fans who are also massive lego fans willing to spend more than the cost of an actual table for this
This is a fraction of the cost of an actual table though. You can get a playable table at around $600, but even then there will be major flaws.
@@TheRustyPlace the price of this set is still bad for what it is
@@TheRustyPlace , you can get a football table for €10 too, and it will still be better at its purpose than the Lego version....
Considering it's the most popular sport in the world, odds are quite a number of football fans are also Lego fans. In that regard this is a lot less niche than, say, the Atari set or the big Bowser.
That said, I think Lego could have done a much better job to tap into that huge potential.
While I'm not a fan of football, I think I might buy this and replace all the Minifigures with the ones from my Lego Batman sets.
Uff. I am not a fan of sets that prioritize minifigs and accessories over the build. Not a bad set for novelties sake, but seems like a really poor value if what you want is a Lego foosball table.
Extra players could have been smaller packs or sets. Like a street/indoor game set with figures and some small goals. Especially for kids with an ear aid and/or vitiligo that might be priced out at the full set price. I've had "normal" small table games like this and they get used for a bit before being forgotten. At least the build sounds nice.
1:24 - imagine that you're just watching a soccer game, and unbeknownst to you, there are almost two dozen severed heads beneath your seat...
Cheaper to get an actual table football layout than the Lego set equivalent. The price was overbloated with all the unnecessary minifigures. I would be quite surprised if this set sells well at all.
Are you buying actual ferraris instead of the LEGO ones?! :P
@@TiagoCatarino If the Ferrari was cheaper than the Lego sets, yes I'd buy an actual Ferrari over the Lego ones.
@@TiagoCatarino Weak argument dude, ferraris are not football tables. Football tables are way cheaper and comparable in price to Lego sets like this one. Ferraris are not, nor can you actually ride a Lego ferrari so the overal value is not even on the same comparison level.
@@Bionickpunk Tiago is a guy who worked for Lego as you may know, he is not reviewing the products, he is advertising it!
@@alterego2275 Sadly this is the case with a lot of people working or that worked for large companies, they are so dishonest with their product "reviews" just to keep a good face with the corporation instead of helping them in giving actual invaluable criticism so that they dont keep making the same mistakes that will cost them far more money. Its like Lego forgot that there is no "too big to fail" company, and that they can just as easily get back to the same bankrupt status of the early 2000s if they keep screwing up their actual consumer base or making mediocre products.
For that money one could just buy a real soccer table lol
If you think about it could could say the same about most lego sets. Why buy lego optimus prime if you can by the Hasbro toy cheaper. Why buy anything from speed champions when the die cast model car is cheaper etc.
You can make that argument if you buy a real ferrari too instead of the LEGO ones!
@@naysunhuang hmm its a subjective outweighing. I love speedchampions and diecast models. And i buy speedchampions to have fun building, afterwards they just collect dust too. And here on the soccer table, imo, you can play with more ppl and stuff on a real one ig
@@TiagoCatarino That's a terrible comparison. No Ferrari is cheaper than a Lego set. You're oddly defensive of this set whose price you criticized in this very video.
@@Eidolon1andOnly The irony of it all is that he even stated that he wasnt interested in the set before he got a free trip to a fancy Lego event and got the set for free (with all the marketing attached to it). The amount of privilege he got around this set compared to regular Lego buyers is on a different level.
I was okay with LEGO making the model smaller to meet standards. I don't like that they kept the extremely high price and then added a stand and a ton of minifigure parts in order to justify the price. Especially when the typical table football game are made with monochrome figures. LEGO should have just included the number of figures needed in all red/blue color and done away with the stand and added minifigure parts, and reduced the price.
The uniforms make me think Star Trek.
Maybe this might end up inspiring a whole Lego Trek fan made effort.
Selling the extra figures might work out for people who want to get some cash back. Almost like a rebate.
It looks like a fun set but the price and the flaw make it a bit unappealing. If they would have left out the additional figures and the stage it could be cheaper.
Im still asking myself, who is actually gonna buy this? It cant be displayed, it can be played but who has 250$ and buys this instead of something much cooler?
Idk i think its cool and i think lego has lowered the price but personally would have spent 20$ more to get something like the mighty bowser if i did didnt already have it
Bro I'm sorry but it's to overpriced and I have to pay my rent first💀
The set's OK - but as a football fan, I would have bought it purely for the minifigures if the price was better... and really think they should printed the legs as shorts - i.e., skin showing at the knees.
As it is, i'll just pick up the torsos and some heads on Bricklink or Brickowl
They could've even compensated for the skin tones by having long white socks for the lower part of the legs. the same with the shoudlers actually - prints to show sleeves and then long white strips for under the elbow. Would at least make the figures feel more like they're wearing an actual football uniform and not all playing in onsies.
@@scribeyesteak8758 Exactly... I know it would put the price up but dual moulded legs would be perfect... Football needs new sets and I just hope that if this doesn't sell well, Lego won't consider making any sets.
I noticed the next CMF series has a referee, yet they still haven't given us opposition for the CMF series 4 player.
My main concern for this set was durability and play features. Years ago I asked for Lego Soccer sets for either my Birthday or Christmas and got the Mega Block Foosball table instead. It did have the full set of players, but you couldn't twist the knobs without pulling up the bricks. It was terrible.
The scoreboard seems like it would be better by using flag on a pole. When you get a goal, flip a flag down or up. The choice they went with is bizarre. Anyone that's worked with Technic enough should know those elements are used for fixed positions, not sliding elements. Even a kid that grew up building Bionicle figures could've told them that.
I'll have to hesitate at that price point, as I still want Bowser, and I can't get both.
I find it WAY too expensive
I really like that LEGO is working on wider representation in minifigures but I don't like how some of these parts are only available through this set at the moment. Why does someone need to buy a $250 set in order to make a figure with vitiligo? Will people still be able to do that once this set gets discontinued? I think LEGO should make more of these elements available in Pick a Brick or include a wider variety of heads/hairpieces with more sets. Right now they're putting all the new parts in one set that becomes more inaccessible due to the increased price.
Who the ruck cares about representation. I hope this is the last set with that Vitiligo in it. If not then hopefully the next set will be even more expensive.
@@delix8869 Boi now I hope all LEGO sets you get have vitiligo in them.
Of course you became enthusiastic about this set once you got one for free and and a nice trip as a bonus.
LOL it turns out that the some original wooden Table Football sets are cheaper than the smaller LEGO one 🤣🤣 Also was watching this and just thinking that this was such a FIFA moment
Are you buying the original Ferraris as well instead of the speed champions ones?!
😂
Lol this way too expensive!!
@@TiagoCatarino yea .. also Bugattis too
@@TiagoCatarino actual ferrarris are thousands of times more expensive than speed champions sets and also serve a completely different purpose. This is a football table meant to be played with just like an actual table, so it's a genuinely good comparison
3:20 instead of a technic axle they could have used a long Bar/Wand/Lightsaber-Blade piece.
it will stay in place and will be easier to slide
overpriced and sitting on shelves just like the bust and hulkbuster that nobody asked for. oof
Lego (UK) are already offering 30% off the list on this set. Rare to see a new set discounted so quickly.
The action feature part could be replicated even over 20 years ago. It wouldn’t look pretty, but it could have been fun.
A street base plate with some technic and basic bricks might do the trick.
Kicking around marble or small bouncy balls.
Oh and if I were thinking ahead something could have been rigged up to decrease stress on Lego pieces.
Teflon tape (plumbing tape) could be wrapped around the axles.
Some kind of non Lego rubber thread through a Tecnic pin hole for shock absorption.
Wish I had that idea back in the day.
That axel element will mostly likely the first thing to break, I think there might be enough room to the double axel rubber element to prevent the score elements from sliding if you really wanted to stop the movement.
I can understand why they had to scale it down, and have no real issue with that. Sure, the problems they had could surely have been solved with some new parts and materials (other brands can do CFRP axles, why can't Lego), but that would only have added to the price.
I do have an issue that to meet the predefined price they thrown in so much unnecessary stuff. I sure see the value for minifig collectors, but then wouldn't it have been much better as two separate sets? And so many figs, but somehow they don't really look like football players at all, or are they all playing in their track suits? I had rather seen this set with just 10 good figures and a much lower price tag.
At that point they should have cancelled the Idea project if they were not able to properly make it in set form. This is not a Medieval Smith house where you can shape it how you want, a football table has a specific function and design, going off from the intended design defeats the purpose of having a football table.
@@Bionickpunk exactly because it needs to be functional, I'm okay with changes to the design. The fan designer only did a digital design that simply wouldn't work in the plastic. The Lego designers did what was necessary to make it work. And in that regard succeeded. It's still a football table (albeit a tiny one) and it does its job pretty well. I actually have more issue with them changing a lot in pure display sets, like that Blacksmith, or recently with the Jazz Quartet.
The other day I went to the Lego shop, and I saw they had the football table on display. So me and my brother played a couple matchs with it, which i ended up winning, and I have to say I’m impressed. Although it was a little crammed it was very functional
Series idea for Tiago: (day 10)
Tiago should make a subreddit where people can post Mocs that he reviews and gives feedback monthly/weekly. It’s going to be good for both the fans who are looking to improve and will probably take Tiago less time to make.
That would be really nice
It’s too small. I saw and played it. Certainly not for adults
As someone who used to play a lot of Table Football and still has a Tornado brand table in their house, I was very excited when I heard about this set. I'm a little disappointed in the small size compared to the original idea, but I totally understand the reason for that limitation. That being said, this is too expensive for what you get. If I ever find it available for a really good sale price then I might pick it up just for display purposes.
There’s one set like 20 years ago. A literally football pitch but the field and game place is like real match. Idk how to really explain.
Hey guys, food for thought, if you're seeing this comment at the time of me writing it, this set is currently on sale for 175 off. A steal honestly
I hope lego would do lego my little pony since they did lego transformers
I believe that the designers did a great job transforming the original Ideas submission into a set that feels more LEGO.
Yes, it's a bit of waste in terms of minifigure parts, but the kids being able to represent themselves and their friends on the players seems a great feature to me.
Won't buy it for me because it's not on my interests, but is a really cool set.
“kids are able to represent themselves” 😂😂😂😂 oh nawhhhh
Sounds pretty woke to be honest. I'm wondering if this "representation" aspect of this set was done purely to dissuade criticism, as identity politics and woke culture make some people afraid of criticizing something like this out of fear for being labeled an "ist" or a "phobe."
@@Eidolon1andOnly If it really went (or cared) for the inclusiveness and representation rout, then it should have been a cheaper set to promote such ideals (or just split the football table and colorful audience into different sets to have cheaper two options). Stuff like "Everyone is Awesome" set is a good example of doing it right, 11 colorful Lego printless minifigures (pieces we never got in these colors), presented well and being sold originally for around 35 dollars. You can repurpouse all the new rainbow recolors in a much more affordable price range. The Football table set has all these honestly neat minifigure variants, but they are utterly wasted on such an expensive set, making it even harder for actual PoC to "represent themselves" due to the high barrier to entry with the price range. And those that state "oh there is always bricklink", yeah but these one time set exclusive parts are just gonna have way larger prices on the aftermarket compared to parts from more affordable sets that more people are able to buy and then resell. This can be fixed by selling these new minifigure variants in more cheaper sets, but then it removes the biggest reason to even get the Football table. Lego really made an L with this one, no matter how you look at it.
@@Bionickpunk I completely agree. If Lego truly cared about this aspect they would have done something with these figs in a more affordable and accessible set, not lump in in with this table football set. They could have done this with two $40 people pack sets consisting of 20-22 figs each, or any other kind of smaller, cheaper set. Personally I think it would be really cool for Lego to come up with an entirely new theme, similar to, but distinct from the Lego City theme, with a hyper attention to detail and realism, with sets designed to work together and be modular regardless of set size, where instead of the traditional yellow fig, all the figs have the more realistic fleshtones. The buildings and vehicles for these sets could reflect the different regions and cultures they're supposed to represent too.
@@Eidolon1andOnly Yeah, start introducing the wide variety of different fleshtone minifigures in more affordable sets, so that these parts dont end up being hard to get later on. They already opened the flood gates with colored minifigures since early 2000s, no going back now. We can still have both all yellow minifigure sets and colored ones. Lego Friends and Elves has proven these skin tones can work in original IP themes. We already getting so many sets based on Chinese culture and communities, why not expand it to other ones beyond the mythical or far distant past. And as you said, this could open to a wide variety of set designs based on different regions (houses, vehicles, objects, pets, etc.)
Seems to me to be a sneaky and expensive way to sell the rare/new minifigs. The table is too small to play on regularly with the poor score markers, weird flag corners and sections showing the studs looking as though they should have been covered up. I think it could have been better and at the price, should've been.
Just curious if a technic tube element could be used for the counter with the axle part which would still slide easier but have some resistance? Seems like a great set when this goes on sale next year! 20% = $50 off :)
Fun set, but 250 is just way too much when also looking at the size.
I hope that lego uses these (I’m pretty sure) new face prints of the vitiligo and ear piece head prints, preferably in a more affordable manner, I feel like it’s so cool and
While I would not have been disappointed with a cheaper price point for only 10 minifigs, I see the extra as more than added value for me. This isn't a set I'm jumping to get right away but I will pick it up at some point to have a bunch of unique minifigs in my modular city.
Great review 🎉
Olá Tiago, sou um grande fã , voltei aos legos agora aos 20 anos e adoro fazer construções alternativas de sets , e gostaria de saber como as pessoas fazem MOCs … elas simplesmente compram peça por peça? Compram um set específico ou compram varios sets creator? O que farias se planeasses ter uma grande coleção de tijolos variados rapidamente de forma mais efetiva?
I would've been okay with the figures having faces in a solid white or black color, like the real games are. I know a lot of people will appreciate the figures but it would've preferred a cheaper set personally.
Eeermmmm... people in lots of different colours play football, (or soccer), not juat people of the colours of "solid black or white".
@@oddvegan9797 This is not about race. Potawadingdong is referring to the minifigure that has vitiligo. He thinks not many football players have vitiligo so there´s no reason for LEGO to go out it´s way to make a football player with vitiligo. I know many football players and I don´t know anyone who has vitiligo as bad as the minifigure. Potawadingdong probably doesn´t know vitiligo isn´t always that noticable, actually many great players had vitiligo for example: Romario, Ronaldinho and Jamie Carragher.
Lego had to make the vitiligo very noticeable so everyone could regocnise it. I mean if it was just a white skin dude with even wither little spots I wouldn´t have recognised it. I think it´s great they did include it in this set, I mean they were already manufracturing the head it´s not like they had to design something new and the designing of the head increased the price of the set.
@@Butterbreadandgreencheese Oh ok, thank you for the explanation, and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
I bought it (on sale for $175 USD) specifically for the minifig hair pieces and heads . . . and also tons of unique and fun looking parts really doesn't hurt, either!
Great review, thanks. Loved your match with Emmasaurus in Paris :)
This thing should be $50-$60 maybe even $70 and not $250
As much as I dislike the price, I can't agree this should cost $50-$80.
More like, $130-$150 ish
They should have added a little hole on the walls in the middle where you could drop the ball into the arena with like a real table has.
Lego ideas are the best Lego sets that have ever came out. Thanks for reviewing this one!
My intuition for moving those score markers is to put my thumb on top and my forefinger on the side I wish to move it to, then apply a torque to the ball to counteract bending the axle element as I try to slide it.
I don't actually know if that would work, but it didn't look like you were using the described technique, so maybe your complaint is moot.
Lego should just bring back the old football pitch, instead of this. Overpriced, in terms of looks its pretty uninteresting, useless parts, I cant see the point of this.
This set is again another example of why I'm a little bit disappointed about LEGO IDEAS in the last time. The actual IDEAS set was far bigger and I would have not been interested in buying this, If I had voted for a pretty much different set. Same thing with the Motorised Lighthouse - different scale and size. I understand that LEGO needs to rework the sets, but those two sets have been reworked way too much in my opinion and therefore are no longer interesting for the group of people who picked it on the IDEAS website.
The next problem with IDEAS - too many big and expensive sets are being released and the small ones are only given away as GWP, instead of really making them easily available for the fans.
Personally, the Table Football is one of the least interesting sets released this year :/
this set feels so unbelievable that it feels like lego didn't make it
I figured The extra mini figures are for using your own bricks to build a larger table without needing to buy a second table.
Lmaoo you can get 2 whole real life mini football tables for that price
Back in the olden times they actually did a foot ball and basketball theme which allowed kids and big kids to play the games
its easy for someone to like this when they got it for free
This is more of a minifigure pack set than a foosball table
I had the opportunity to play and it was a tragedy! After 30 seconds I had the tip of the handle in my hand. Claustrophobic pitch, no pleasure from the game, very poor set, I do not recommend.
when i was younger, Mega block made a babyfoot set, bigger and way more playable, not veery expensive, like 50$. This set is expensive because of the collector stuff, not the play feature
Well the price is now $175. I guess Lego realized they messed up and will eat the cost which is not something Lego does at all. It's a decent set for the new discounted price though.
I'm sure I have seen different vids where the spare figures were in a drawer under the bleachers..?!
WOW! I am so impressed with this entire review and not for the reason you might think. When the video started and we hear Lego has invited you to France to review this set, I was like “oh here we go”. In fact I almost swiped right (you get the reference) as I did not want a biased take. Instead we get an absolutely honest unapologetic review. Mr. Catarino, I have to say, just like legos’ customer service you sir are second to none. I’ve been collecting Lego’s for 25 years and watch countless videos and reviews on the bricks, and I have enjoyed yours since you left Lego. However this video has solidified you as the preeminent reviewer…💯😉
It's just LEGO not legos :)
It's cool to justify this as a mini-table with lots of useful building parts if taken apart, but with thinking of LEGO in this way, its easy to justify it as "a set and lots of parts" but it should be "a set OR lots of parts". What would you really do with the $250 or so amount of parts with 20 minifigs in football clothes? It's cool if it stays as a table, but if you really wanted a mini football table, you can buy proper ones much more affordably, and the spare LEGO pieces here for MOCs seem much too expensive to buy just for parts.
If the set was cheaper, it would be a lot better
I'll probably buy two or three and make a larger one over time.
This set should have been canceled. Way too much time and resources were spent on making the table semi-functional, while making silly compromises which detract from both its playability and its value as a display piece, just to keep the high price. The inclusion of all the minifig pieces was unnecessary as this is supposed to be a foosball table, not a football/soccer pitch. There was no need for realistic minifig fleshtones and hair styles. The set is actually more expensive than full sized, fully playable foosball tables. The idea should have been scrapped when they realized they couldn't make a larger playable table, and moved on to making other, better collectible or playable sets. It is a bad set as it is way too expensive to be treated as a toy/table sport game, and way too small and plain to be an eyecatching conversation piece as a display, with no universal or specific appeal.
It boggles my mind how this set even passed the review stage and got approved for set creation. This is what review stages should have done, weed out any potential issues recreating this idea project into set form would make.
I'm with you both. This is a joke
@@Bionickpunk I completely agree, especially when you realize this idea had already been threatened with cancellation during its design process at least three separate times according to those who worked on the project. The only positive thing I can say about this set was that is a completely original idea which didn't require Lego to work out a licensing agreement with an intellectual property owner. Lego already has 40+ licensing agreements with auto manufacturers to Hollywood studios, and even other toy companies like Hasbro. These licenses are driving up the cost of every Lego set regardless of theme to offset the cost of the licenses and retain a healthy profit margin. The sad thing is that there seems to be no end in sight with this trend of selling licensed products as mindless consumers keep demanding more.
Regarding the extra minifigures, perhaps it was particularly important for the designer(s) to depict Football as a global, highly diverse culture, and felt strongly enough about it that Lego was okay inflating the cost of the set to preserve that aspect. The complaints about it seem to forget that the design of these sets have multiple competing considerations and there's no one answer to balancing them.
Regarding the score-keeping element. I suspect they used the difficult-to-move part for display purposes. It's still technically movable, but it can be stable if the user wants it to be, compared to the alternate piece you recommended. I agree with your argument, but I'm guessing that was their reason.
The one thing that I wished it had was a hole or ramp or something to drop the ball onto the field. One thing people always try to do on real foosball tables is sneakily influence the way the ball enters the field, so it's odd that a set with so much play utility ignored that aspect.
@@KindlyUmbreon Wow you really missed the point.
More expensive than an actual full size table football 😂 hmm think ill pass
Its 140 right now on the Lego Website. I think I'm gonna get one now
i don’t understand why the mini figures aren’t just yellow… normally skin coloured mini figures are only used when. they’re based on real people or characters. I don’t see the point of individualising them so much since it’s the complete opposite of the original, where the players are full on blue or red.
its already on sale on Lego 😅
It’s on sale right now for the price you said it should be! Worth getting?
I think it’s fun. With the price reduction it’s definitely a fair deal out of the pieces and minifigures you get. Whithin the same price range I would still buy the Delorean or Tallneck+Galaxy Explorer over the table set.
22 extra faces and hair, but only 1 extra ball??!!
This seems actually really cool
I had the old Lego soccer table as a kid
As of March 2023, no longer on Amazon at all, so enough folks took the $ plunge!
Right in time for the World Cup
Go Portugal!
I was going to buy this except for that awful side build that is just their to jack up the price of it.
I feel like the axles holding the minifigures will inevitably be the first parts to break. A much better solution would have been to use brick-built rods.
Bruh brick build rods would break instantly that's why technic exists
@@timohara7717 I meant something like using those reinforced 2x2 lattice pieces or something similar with a better structural integrity. You could just lay them on the side and use turntables.
Hi. I have a question. At 3.16 minute you suggest changing the piece to slide the markers.Advice to replace it with a technic connector perno? Can you tell me which? Thank you.
Does why in Brazil LEGO is so expensive, with an absurd disproportion with the dollar?Like 1 piece is 1 Real
Still a no for me at that price…$150 top even with those minifigs parts
It's really impressive that this set works at all, but I think if I get this it's mostly going to be for the minifigure faces and hair pieces to make customs of family, friends, or just make civilians in my Lego City
Better and cheaper to buy the figures off bricklink.
@@Eidolon1andOnly Eh, think this is gonna go on sale eventually at retail and at that point, it'll be better value for the number of figures and pieces from the build itself
@@Robin0928 Still not worth it. There's better and cheaper alternatives to get the parts and minifigs than buying this set regardless of sale. Its price would need to be cut 50% or more before I'd consider buying it.
I really like this, I got to experience it in-hand at a local LEGO store where they actually set up a 'demo booth' for people to try it out. I did find that the axles had started to bend quite easily due to the extensive use there though, hopefully that's less apparent in normal use situations. It did surprise me how incredibly close this got to the actual game but, the price... It's nowhere near enough to justify as this really is just a novelty item and let's be honest, who asked for a functional LEGO football table? As a MOC concept it's really cool but as a set... well, this is what you get. Too bad.
It's cool, but at first glance it looks like it should cost 50 bucks. Then when you look closer and realize that it's quite sturdy, a price of 100 bucks is more likely. Then you look at the piececount and consider that it'll probably cost 150 to 180. That would be somewhat reasonable, and I would want to wait for discounts or good gifts from Lego to actually buy it.
But then they suddenly add the crazy price Policy of Lego and end up on 250? No. Just No. I really like the idea, the playful disgn, and the look of it, but I won't give lego 70€ extra which the product isn't worth. Rather spend the money on something with a better value then.
5:20: Those are not "easter egg", but what Lego always does: dumping leftover parts from their stock into sets to save money and maximize money. Lego claim they do it for easier building, but that is of course a lie.
LEGO never does that. In my 3,5 years of working as a LEGO model designer I was never told to use certain elements to clear stock. I'm not really sure where that silly misconception comes from but here we are.
@@TiagoCatarino Just take a look into the final sets: they look like a unicorn puked inside. Purple, lime, dark tan - you can find any color except the most suitable ones. Sometimes (like the UCS ISD) you can see them even from the outside. This is an outrage for every MOCer, and creating own ideas was the original intention of Lego.
What possible reason can that have to include inappropriate colors and stickers, except cutting costs? For a set that costs so much money, that is really a cheap move.
Moreover, I noticed an alarming development of more scratched and off color pieces. The Lamborghini Sian and the Fiat 500 were notorious for that.
Other brick producers like Cobi or Cada also have their problems, but their price tags aren't that high. If you take premium prices, you should deliver premium quality.
@@Nikioko as a mocer I appreciate the different colors. I have way too much grey white and black on my collection. The different colors are used to avoid mistakes during the build. I still do building mistakes with all the different colors and it’s a pain having to go back a dozen steps to fix mistakes. Good luck trying to find mistakes whithout a color coded build.
This one isn’t really that bad in that regard. Take a look at the UCS landspeeder and you’ll cry lol. As for stickers what are you talking about? This set doesn’t have stickers
@@TiagoCatarino When I recall my childhood, the Lego sets back then didn't have all these colors, and there were a lot more parts to add per building step. But I had no real problems building the 8850 Car Chassis or the 8855 Prop Plane as a 10-year-old. You can't put this set into a showcase with glass shelves, because the bottom looks like an exploded rainbow.
It doesn't apply to this set, but I mentioned stickers, because this set has prints at spots where you will never see them, while other high price sets have tons of stickers instead. In contrast, Cobi claim for their Historical Collection to have no stickers and all parts pad printed. And that includes edges of plates, if necessary. Why is this possible in Poland, but not in Denmark?
And yes, mistakes happen while building. But they happen with or without multiple colors. This can also mean that you have to partly disassemble your progress, but that is part of the experience. But as a child, I learned very quickly in which properties part vary, e.g. that there are Technic axles in different lengths or that there is a difference between Technic pins with and without friction. I wonder why, today, customers shouldn't be able to distinguish a 2×3 plate from a 2×4 plate any more. Especially when we are talking about an 18+ set.
I don't want to talk things bad. But this set (and other recent sets) has issues that should be addressed. And the main design error is that the players at the middle line are not facing each other. How do you kick off if nobody is facing the ball? I am certainly not alone with my criticism. You already mentioned the issue with the goal counter, which could be fixed so easily.
Set is on sale on Lego right now gir $175 so I’m all in
I do wish there was normal heads to have plain figures
Called me out.. I just want all the exclusive minifigs 🤣
Unless you want the minifigure pieces I really don't see any reason to spend money on this when you can get a bigger football table
Soccer? Bro youre from Portugal right?
yeah unfortunately most of his audience are Americans
Ironic that I got the ad for it while going to watch this video? 😂
Очень интересно, думаю нужен мне такой в семью 😂 .
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A real size lego 8 ball pool would be nice
Can we get Lego Pinball now?
You missed the biggest flaw of all, one that makes the set entirely useless for its intended purpose. It's actually almost impossible to score. The ball only just fits between the defending figures. In fact, when you showed scoring, you had to keep the defenders still to to do so. But with any movement at all of the defenders, then you cannot score. This is a horribly designed set and it's no wonder it only lasted a year on shelves, and is one of the very few LEGO sets selling for less than retain value now that it's discontinued.
“The old Bionicle Balls” 💀
Table football? Never heard of it and it is Lego?