DAILY - The new QUAD-LEAF front suspension

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2024

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  • @bingola45
    @bingola45 7 років тому +3

    Good ol' leaf springs.
    Henry was right all along!

  • @AutomotiveCNC
    @AutomotiveCNC 3 роки тому +5

    A free advice to the engineers at Iveco: Use multi-link front suspension (two tie rods replacing the upper A-arm) to achieve much, much greater performance and variable camber angle and caster angle. This way, you can easily gain more than 20% better road performance during high-speed cornering. Also, the tyres will not wear as much, compared to regular double-wishbone layout.

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому +4

      The engineers probably tested multiple ideas including multilink before coming to this.
      Multilink is more expensive and requires more engineering time. It probably wasnt worth it to the engineers.

    • @AutomotiveCNC
      @AutomotiveCNC 3 роки тому +2

      @@xavierrodriguez2463 , as a person who already designed several suspension setups for various sports cars and buggies (some with regular double wishbone layout; some with multi-link layout), I can tell you that the difference in time needed to design those is a few days. No more. Multi-link suspension only takes about 20 hours more time to figure out the best solution to eliminate the bump steer and to fine tune the Ackermann geometry. That's it. As for the price, despite having two extra ball joints or rod ends, the multi-link suspension sometimes even costs less money, because it consists two simple tie rods (could be cast aluminum, CNC-milled aluminum or steel, basic steel pipe between two threaded end tube inserts, etc) instead of a single and more expensive A-arm. The A-arm is usually heavier than two tie rods, though the latter also come with two extra rod ends or ball joints, so at the end both setups could weight the same.

    • @adamdavis7271
      @adamdavis7271 2 роки тому +2

      price and cost are by far the biggest factors, the engineers are undoubtedly aware of the benefits of other setups; but those same setups cost much, much more

    • @AutomotiveCNC
      @AutomotiveCNC 2 роки тому +1

      @@adamdavis7271 , I work in this area and, trust me, the price difference is negligible compared to all the benefits that come from using a multi-link suspension layout. Those include:
      - Better performance while cornering and less understeer.
      - Safer, more predictable cornering due to the better grip with the road.
      - Far lesser tyre deformation, thread damage and generated heat.
      - Shorter use of the brakes and lesser generated heat.
      - Lesser use of the ABS and ESP.
      - More calm use of the steering system.
      - Prolonged life of the springs, shocks, brakes and bushings.
      - Improved fuel economy.

    • @hubertsteenbekkers1522
      @hubertsteenbekkers1522 7 місяців тому

      Its a truck not a race car

  • @Pertamax7-HD
    @Pertamax7-HD 4 роки тому

    nice vids sir

  • @amineberraoui
    @amineberraoui 3 роки тому

    i need one like this.

  • @alifathima6176
    @alifathima6176 3 роки тому

    Super

  • @theodorelk3674
    @theodorelk3674 8 років тому +8

    i love italian engineering.

    • @Ghoobrr
      @Ghoobrr 4 роки тому +2

      Theodor Elk if you like visiting the shop, buy Italian

  • @vaidotaskuzminskas3306
    @vaidotaskuzminskas3306 6 років тому +2

    Leaf in the front breaks after 20.000-30.000km without beeing overloaded. The same problem for 5 cars already.

    • @BluesyBor
      @BluesyBor 5 років тому +1

      Weird, I have both this Daily and the older generation, both above 250000km and used often in harsh conditions - heavy loads (sometimes overloaded a bit), bad roads. No suspension problems at all, except the older one had to get new wishbones in the front a few months ago.

  • @DeWorDeR
    @DeWorDeR 3 роки тому

    lol im gonna use this suspension/steering idea in a game i hope it works lol :D

  • @Ahowardsky
    @Ahowardsky 4 роки тому +3

    Double wishbone got a new name?

    • @ancientapparition1638
      @ancientapparition1638 3 роки тому

      was just about to say that ahaha like wtf

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому +2

      I mean it's double wishbone with a leaf spring replacing the coil spring and sway bar.
      Plus marketing shit

  • @user-ym9kb1vb2f
    @user-ym9kb1vb2f 3 роки тому

    Why Iveco only product trucks?

  • @van.with.no.plan46
    @van.with.no.plan46 2 роки тому +2

    This is the worst feature of my 2021 Iveco daily, at 12,000km I hit a average size pot hole, and my wife's curtain air bag deployed and hit her.. It just seems like it has very little travel, and just bottoms out all the time. (Empty van).. Yes, it has a great steering lock, but a lot of vibration shakes in front end.

    • @SummerWaters369
      @SummerWaters369 10 місяців тому

      I agree. Too harsh in the front end. Do you know of anyone who has done an upgrade that works well?

  • @bni1887
    @bni1887 Рік тому

    How is the ground clearance??

  • @rmmmodifikasi
    @rmmmodifikasi 3 роки тому

    Good👍

  • @mba2ceo
    @mba2ceo 2 роки тому

    still think torque bar + wish is best

  • @mosbrewokchannel3628
    @mosbrewokchannel3628 5 років тому

    Tolong tampilkan pembuatan body lamborghini secara detail,baik potongsb besi platnya,ukurannya berapa

  • @PawanSingh-mw6nw
    @PawanSingh-mw6nw 3 роки тому

    Sir can I know the name of software used to create this impressive video

  • @MrSaemichlaus
    @MrSaemichlaus 3 роки тому

    Does the title have anything to do with the video? Where are the leafs?

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому +1

      The damper doesn't have a coil on it, how can you not see the leaf spring that connects to the lower arm transversely

    • @MrSaemichlaus
      @MrSaemichlaus 3 роки тому

      @@xavierrodriguez2463 Oh I see it now, thanks. I guess it's so unusual I didn't know what to look for!

  • @Gabrielxdxd4
    @Gabrielxdxd4 4 роки тому

    1:05, excuse me but that's a bit too much positive camber (Something just doesn't seems ok)

  • @xtocy96
    @xtocy96 3 роки тому

    So... where are the leafs?

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому +1

      Connected to the lower control arm
      Are you blind?

    • @xtocy96
      @xtocy96 3 роки тому

      @@xavierrodriguez2463 Yes

    • @xtocy96
      @xtocy96 3 роки тому

      @@xavierrodriguez2463 Isnt that the shock absorber?

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому +1

      @@xtocy96 yes that's the shock, but the spring is flat and it's transversely mounted. It's going across the frame.

    • @vk45de54
      @vk45de54 3 роки тому +1

      @@xavierrodriguez2463 The point is the name is "Quad Leaf" but they talk about everything else but the leaf.

  • @m.enc.omarmorales5796
    @m.enc.omarmorales5796 4 роки тому +1

    Corvette suspension :V

  • @damianbujak2549
    @damianbujak2549 3 роки тому +2

    It's like driving farm tractor
    Big mitake baying new iveco.
    Crafter,sprinter,movano ,transit all driving like normal car.
    Iveco meak you tired

  • @Xayuap
    @Xayuap 3 роки тому

    .74 G is more than a mustang

  • @tessemi
    @tessemi 9 років тому

    Its not that new if you think about it. Its been in rc cars

    • @DadPool_Hyde
      @DadPool_Hyde 8 років тому

      +Crypton XD um....on what? all of the RC cars I've had run coil springs on top of shocks (thus being a coilover) on all 4 corners....

    • @tessemi
      @tessemi 8 років тому

      Its nothing more than a double wishbone suspension

    • @DadPool_Hyde
      @DadPool_Hyde 8 років тому +2

      That doesn't answer my question, and yes, it is, double wishbone is UCA/LCA/strut/spring. This uses a leaf pack in place of both the coil spring and the sway bar. Now, this is pretty close to the rear suspension on a corvette as I understand it, but, it's still a reworking of a slightly different concept...

  • @vwtaro
    @vwtaro 6 років тому +1

    i don't like the suspension...very bad...it is from the 70's...not comfy at all!