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    Marvel Rivals Reddit Has Some Hot Takes
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  • @nexus274
    @nexus274 2 дні тому +307

    To anybody wondering, Rocket's primary fire is absolutely a projectile. It's super easy to debunk that delayed hitscan claim.

    • @aleks_v1
      @aleks_v1 2 дні тому +60

      yeah lmao, the easiest test is the fact that if youre on someones face then it registers instantly, like a projectile with no travel would, and someone really far away takes a while to get hit, even stationary, like a projectile would
      these tiktok custom crosshair experts are such a phenomenon on earth i swear lmao
      next they'll try to justify a horizontal line crosshair to see magik melee hitbox or some shit😂

    • @rikiponcho
      @rikiponcho День тому +32

      people can go to the official marvel rivals character stats page and see that rocket shoots a projectile that travels at 150 m/s

    • @yeetxd3112
      @yeetxd3112 День тому +16

      @@aleks_v1 I once had a cap in my game that literally had his crosshair as a mini captain America shield emblem, weirdest thing I’ve seen, idk how he did it

    • @megamyth8355
      @megamyth8355 День тому +2

      You're wrong, I'm a gm rocket and it absolutely is delayed hitscan. Using the term 'debunk' while spreading misinformation is wild

    • @rikiponcho
      @rikiponcho День тому +9

      @@megamyth8355 explain why its 150 m/s on the official character stat page from marvel rivals?

  • @HawtDaawwgg
    @HawtDaawwgg 2 дні тому +346

    delayed hitscan I CANT BRO

    • @Mojavay
      @Mojavay День тому +8

      what do you mean bro? We all know that Psylocke's primary fire is just very fast projectiles!

    • @deafdanny6299
      @deafdanny6299 День тому +13

      What is even funnier is people trying to agree with him and saying it's misinformation saying he's wrong

    • @jomom2872
      @jomom2872 День тому +3

      It is "hitscan" but with a set time delay. You can track up close exactly the same as from afar whereas normal projectiles need to account for travel time. The bullets always arrive at .25ish sec delay as opposed to needing to compensate for distance.

    • @tubester358
      @tubester358 День тому +7

      @@jomom2872 the tip that shows up on the side of the screen while that guy is explaining says that you would need to adjust your aim if the enemy is moving faster...that is the opposite of hitscan and describes normal projectile weapon behaviour. A projectile weapon is a delayed hitscan already but instead of depending on some arbitrary point relative to your crosshair it will hit where your crosshair was x milliseconds ago, it's not what they're trying to describe.
      There's no reason at all devs would design such a weird and convoluted hit mechanic.

    • @deafdanny6299
      @deafdanny6299 День тому +5

      @@jomom2872 I just tested this and you are wrong. The further away the target is the longer it takes for the bullets to get there.

  • @damon6086
    @damon6086 2 дні тому +98

    Seagull at the beginning: "I love how unhinged these are"
    Seagull at the end: "This is too much, I can't take this anymore. I'm done."

    • @trobtx3538
      @trobtx3538 День тому +2

      I was done at "the character models are ridiculous" AS IF ITS A GAME DESIGNED AROUND OBTAINABLE BODIES?! XD sorry but its literally insane to make a super hero extremely ugly/weak/useless/wasteofspace

  • @Srelathon
    @Srelathon 2 дні тому +62

    The first mistake was going to Reddit

  • @RobABankWithABagel
    @RobABankWithABagel 2 дні тому +41

    Calling squirrel girl fat is actually insane. Like, I don't care if you're into her or not but FAT? If you think she's fat then you have never seen a real human in your life. Redditors truly making the memes about them real.

    • @sirwolfiusmaximus4201
      @sirwolfiusmaximus4201 День тому

      If you wanna see a fat squirrel girl search up SSBBW Squirrel Girl on nexus mods

    • @offeringsoffire
      @offeringsoffire 21 годину тому

      She has visible abs lmao

    • @FatMCSteve
      @FatMCSteve 20 годин тому

      Even someone like Mei isn't really fat, so to say Squirrel Girl is fat is just straight-up dumbassery

    • @offeringsoffire
      @offeringsoffire 19 годин тому

      @ i mean fat is subjective to an extent but i feel like if they can run for a while and climb over fences n stuff then they arent fat lol

  • @MiniKAANS
    @MiniKAANS День тому +31

    the british guy crosshair video has done tremendous damage to the brains of marvel rival players

    • @Soapy_Papoose
      @Soapy_Papoose День тому +6

      Merchant is just as bad as Rage Gaming. Misinformation and content copying everyday.

  • @alanmonteros6432
    @alanmonteros6432 2 дні тому +177

    Ngl I try not to look at the subreddit because it feels like a rerun of the Overwatch sub, also the glazing of support players feels weird

    • @ryankelly7070
      @ryankelly7070 2 дні тому +67

      some shitty 2016 "if im not healing you that's because ____" support meme got like 20k upvotes. The sub should just be called r/supportcirclejerk with how many posts are bitching about DPS players. The Peni players also glaze themselves like crazy from what I've noticed

    • @WhiteFang103
      @WhiteFang103 2 дні тому +2

      @@ryankelly7070 Real.

    • @shadowzking101
      @shadowzking101 День тому +4

      It's ALWAYS the Support's fault

    • @jakescourage
      @jakescourage День тому +3

      The dps harassment is crazy I mostly flex but got harassed cause I was playing dps and was told my opinion was invalid lmao

    • @shai310
      @shai310 День тому +2

      Yep, I had some of my comments massively downvoted when I calked out support players. People on the sub will hurry to blame thenk tank or the dps but never the healer.

  • @N00BSYBORG
    @N00BSYBORG 2 дні тому +81

    "Character models are ridiculous."
    Concord players spotted. All 1 of them.

    • @teeheeteeeheeididit6379
      @teeheeteeeheeididit6379 День тому +12

      He’s confused super heroes are built like super heroes 😭😭😭

    • @almightyrasen
      @almightyrasen День тому +5

      THIS that wasn’t even a hot take it was just stupid, like why wouldn’t SUPERHEROES be in top shape??

    • @rhett3185
      @rhett3185 День тому +1

      they say I say character models are ridiculous, but I say that too only because they have smaller and thinner hitboxes, we are not the same.

    • @Shzzaam
      @Shzzaam День тому +2

      ​@@teeheeteeeheeididit6379to be fair I KIND OF agree on some of them. The Punisher is wayyyyy to big lol he looks like a Baki character and why is Magneto so massive he's 70. 😂😂😂

    • @Shzzaam
      @Shzzaam День тому +3

      ​@@almightyrasenLook at how big Punisher is lol he should be the same size as Hawkeye imo he shouldn't be a 400 pound roid monster lol.

  • @sully3255
    @sully3255 День тому +28

    this boomer remains my comfort streamer while I'm sick. doesn't matter if its 2016 or 2025. much love streamer.

  • @Roe777
    @Roe777 День тому +17

    Supports are easy overall to get value out of them, but healbots will lose you the game after a certain point

    • @andrewchatman622
      @andrewchatman622 День тому

      tell that to my lord rocket raccoon main who won’t switch when the enemy team has storm hela strange and groot 😒

    • @Nuo66
      @Nuo66 День тому +1

      @@andrewchatman622 Rocket is perfectly fine into Strange. He puts up the shield you help giga melt it down quick.

  • @VVheeli
    @VVheeli День тому +14

    Hot take: if you want to get out of diamond, do not do the usual bans bandwagon of Hulk/Storm/Banner/Hela/Luna.
    If you ban Rocket/Cloak and know how to play Invis Woman or Mantis, you will win 70% of games. Does not work after Diamond 1, but Diamond is a completely free climb when those supports are banned.

    • @DarknessReborn50
      @DarknessReborn50 День тому

      You said hulk twice :)
      Ill see myself out...

    • @VVheeli
      @VVheeli День тому +2

      @@DarknessReborn50whoops one was supposed to be wolverine.

  • @styregt2006
    @styregt2006 День тому +20

    That Hittcan rocket take explains why so many people can't climb. Now I understand.

  • @anasepho
    @anasepho 2 дні тому +8

    Winrate is less important than personal impact. You gain more SR when winning with high stats and impact than with low stats and impact. Likewise you lose less elo when losing with high stats and impact.

  • @tibles1472
    @tibles1472 2 дні тому +76

    on the character models being ridiculous... they are fucking super heroes!!

    • @MijnAfspeellijst1234
      @MijnAfspeellijst1234 День тому +4

      super heroes, not super models.

    • @whatiswhat8061
      @whatiswhat8061 День тому

      ​@MijnAfspeellijst1234 sybau open a comic book everyone's caked up and built like athletes
      Who cares if the alien slime monster and the walking tree have nice butts

    • @renbowo
      @renbowo День тому

      ​@@MijnAfspeellijst1234 nono theyre super sexy, not super models or super heroes, please i want to see big booty and muscular guys thanjks

    • @_TeaMaster
      @_TeaMaster День тому +4

      @@MijnAfspeellijst1234 that's part of the job description. Half of the shit superheroes do will land you in prison or make you a creep unless you got the hot privilege.

    • @Dysanii
      @Dysanii День тому +7

      @@MijnAfspeellijst1234 Super heroes are meant to be super attractive. It's part of the fantasy-

  • @gazingstray4896
    @gazingstray4896 2 дні тому +14

    the one about rocket being hitscan is destroying my brain please help me WHAT,.,., this just reminds me when someone was trying to argue to me that sojourn was a hitscan,,,,,

    • @RockAli22
      @RockAli22 День тому +9

      At first I though that the “delayed hitscan” thing was something along the lines of
      “It is not a proyectile because the time to hit is the same independent of the distance” so it would take say 0.5 seconds to hit at 5/10/100 mts.
      But that is not the case for rocket since time to hit for the bullets absolutely depend on distance lol

    • @jomom2872
      @jomom2872 День тому

      A line is drawn that lags behind the recticle. That is why the tracking delay for aim is the same up close and really far. Sad to see seagull not finish the video and comments flaming merchant when he is correct.

    • @gazingstray4896
      @gazingstray4896 8 годин тому

      @ that's crazy wrong

  • @xondeez757
    @xondeez757 2 дні тому +65

    imagine playing a game that is based on comics and then complain about unrealistic body shapes, have they ever looked at a marvel comic before?

    • @FireLordTrillReviews
      @FireLordTrillReviews 2 дні тому +2

      I was looking for this comment right here 😂

    • @rollcaskett1812
      @rollcaskett1812 2 дні тому +5

      I'm not looking at the roster when I say this but I'm also pretty sure that there are more male characters in the game who aren't "roid monkeys" than those who are, and the male characters who are massive are usually massive in the comics as well. Winter Soldier and Iron Fist are not the same size as Punisher, who is a super soldier in this game. Magneto is massive, but he's also massive in many other depictions of him. Venom and Hulk are Venom and Hulk.

    • @RobABankWithABagel
      @RobABankWithABagel 2 дні тому +3

      I mean the same thing is said about the comics too

    • @BacteriaIsLifeOnMars
      @BacteriaIsLifeOnMars День тому

      i also love how seagull, being on the scale, gets so excited about people becoming passionate and angry, and then himself gets passionate about it! gotta love it! #autism 🤣🤣🤣 #iykyk

    • @dragonlord564
      @dragonlord564 День тому +3

      To be fair. Depends on the comic artist at the time. Some are super stylized and some draw the characters very realistically

  • @jimraynor7788
    @jimraynor7788 День тому +5

    Saying squirrel girl is fat, is pretty wild.

  • @jimraynor7788
    @jimraynor7788 День тому +5

    The comment that got deleted by a reddit neckbeard mod under the one talking about "unrealistic body standards" was the true hot take.

  • @trobtx3538
    @trobtx3538 День тому +3

    If black widow had a single extra ability such as a trap or extra movement she would instantly be a tier

  • @brandoom4996
    @brandoom4996 День тому +3

    Rocket is the wolverine of supports. Everyone is playing him wrong. He melts tanks and can do very well in 1v1

  • @theetrip199
    @theetrip199 День тому +3

    I tried out that guys rocket crosshair on good faith when the video came out and good lord hes just straight up full of shit. Its specifically set just to work in the one small example he shows and has practically no real use case.
    Also the delay hitscan thing is so easily disproven but morons just take anything they're told at face value. Its set my community back YEARS BRO

  • @shl6367
    @shl6367 19 годин тому +1

    delayed hitscan is like Harada saying rollback netcode is delay-based connection.

  • @larkohiya
    @larkohiya 2 дні тому +7

    The game interactions are fun. Balance probably wild for a truly competitive game, but its FUN.

  • @Avossk
    @Avossk День тому +1

    i could actually feel my brain short circuiting as i watched that "delayed hitscan" clip, the leaps in logic were inhuman

  • @hatboi4687
    @hatboi4687 День тому +5

    My bubby is mostly blind in one eye and fully blind in the other and he plays cloak and dagger. He is in plat

    • @xIronwafflexx
      @xIronwafflexx День тому +1

      Only plat? He should try rocket, he might get to diamond.

  • @Moogle
    @Moogle День тому +6

    saying supports are boosted makes no sense, duelists are boosted by supports if we are being honest

    • @tristannottrysten
      @tristannottrysten День тому +1

      Then why do smurfs always play dps and support players are always boosted lmfao

    • @ravenruppie96
      @ravenruppie96 23 години тому

      @@tristannottrysten Burst dps so they don't have to rely on shitty teamwork. Its also why dps are ALWAYS the first thing to be instalocked. If supports were super boosted they would be instalocked

    • @maozedowner5915
      @maozedowner5915 11 годин тому

      @@tristannottrysten Tanks maintain advantage, healers protect advantage, DPS MAKE advantage.
      Tanks and healers are definitely there for DPS to shine, and I'm sure Diamond and below players don't shine that much.

  • @unicorntears6179
    @unicorntears6179 2 дні тому +10

    Idk, man. I feel like there's a lot more dps players that suck than support players. Supports can only do so much. They can't complain about not getting heals when they're not getting the elims, lol.

    • @trobtx3538
      @trobtx3538 День тому +2

      supports often need to realize tho that them healing perma isnt actually helping at all, if you arent healing then attacking and finding a balance as strat you are inting more than the spiderman you complain about, being serious when i say strats can dps the fk outta people but they legit get scared and run rather than defend themselves way too often

  • @elitecombine5373
    @elitecombine5373 2 дні тому +6

    We need to see you review a top 500 Scarlet Witch for that Assassin gameplay.

    • @Gimladesh
      @Gimladesh День тому

      I love playing Scarlet. I think she's a flexible character that can adapt what she's doing to provide answers to a lot of enemy tactics.

  • @v1kzu
    @v1kzu День тому +2

    I think that the guy talking about Rocket's primary not actually being a conventional projectile is onto something. I have noticed it when I am trying to hit people that are literally at point blank range, and I still have to lead my shots - and the lead distance seems to be very similar to when I'm hitting people from mid range, which is weird.
    It might be that the animation of his minigun's bullets throws us off. Further testing is required.

  • @iFinlander
    @iFinlander День тому +5

    Not really a hot take but a lot of support mains (at least the ones who post and comment on reddit/social media) are insufferable and lack any accountability. Not saying all of them and I get that the role can suck sometimes but to act like you we're sent on earth by god himself to fight off 6 dive heros every game is insane. Must be hard picking what to play between rocket raccoon and victim

  • @emeraldgamer3503
    @emeraldgamer3503 6 годин тому

    Another thing about the Spiderman take. Spider-Man does NOT have a fast one shot combo without Venom team up. Without Venom, the best you have is
    Web - E - Jump into Uppercut - Swing into Animation Cancel Web (MUST HIT OPPONENT) - Ground Slam
    This combo is not too hard to master, but it’s very slow compared to other dive characters. It gives healers lots of time and leeway to heal up either themselves or their teammates.
    The top Spidey players do insane movement tech; that’s why they can play so well at the top level. The animation cancel B-Hops into sliding uppercuts and all that tech. That’s what makes him viable.
    Saying Spidey is not hard is arrogant and wrong. Maybe he’s not hard in Bronze, but past that, people actually know how to use buttons.

  • @EpsilonKnight2
    @EpsilonKnight2 День тому +1

    Rocket's gun is not hitscan at all. Any hitscan attack, no matter if its delayed firing or no, will hit the target INSTANTLY no matter the distance if it's aimed on target.
    It's extremely easy to test. Go into the training range, stand next to Luna or on the upper staircase next to her, and tap to fire 1 bullet from Rocket's gun at a bot on the distance range. Make sure you headshot to listen to the tink and the delay between your firing and the noise. Afterwards move down to the distance range, stand at any distance you want on the meter marker, and fire 1 bullet at the same bot's head and listen to the delay. It will be much shorter because IT'S A PROJECTILE WITH TRAVEL TIME AND IS NOT HITSCAN.
    The closest thing to a "delayed hitscan" hero in Rivals is Psylocke because she fires 2 hitscan shots for every 1 firing requiring you to calculate and sort of lead your 2nd shot independent of your firing. Do the same test with Psylocke and her shot will still hit the target at the same timing at both distances, immediately after firing.
    That whole misunderstanding with Rocket's gun is almost as bad as an awful Magneto I played with once that kept doing melee (which does 40 damage compared to the 75 of his direct shots) and was begging for a Wanda to do the team up buff. Right before we lost he was talking in chat about how "melee Magneto" lets him win because it's strong. He didn't even realize the Wanda buff gives him long range energy slashes that do the same damage at close and far range as long as the slashes connect. Then he had the audacity to say I didn't know know the game when I told him as much.

  • @jackthorndyke3390
    @jackthorndyke3390 15 годин тому

    Please ignore the coping rocket players who genuinely think it's "delayed hitscan". I tested in the range, if you're up close to a target the bullet hits instantly, and as you walk further away and test again, the bullets take proportially longer to connect. It is 100% a standard projectile, just with a pretty fast travel time of 150m/s.

  • @thetaintpainter5443
    @thetaintpainter5443 День тому +2

    Wait, Cloak's blind ability causes them to take increased damage too? Oh man, I need to use that more

  • @NOhomo543
    @NOhomo543 День тому +4

    To be fair all that person did was state the obvious. The proportions in the game ARE ridiculous. Bad or good doesn’t matter it’s just true.

    • @EpsilonKnight2
      @EpsilonKnight2 День тому

      True but people like stylized characters in crazy super powered stuff more often than grounded realistic depictions if they have the option. It's like comparing the Avengers game to this is no contest which is more striking and memorable even though the Avengers game looks fine sometimes.

    • @NOhomo543
      @NOhomo543 День тому

      @ sure but it’s idiotic to not admit it’s not just about “stylized characters”. It’s legit just sexualizing female characters. That’s all it is. It’s okay to admit it but people take it as an offense which shows their true character

  • @johncra8982
    @johncra8982 День тому +2

    3:00 this post was written by a mindbroken dps who got trashed by his team for being worthless 😂

  • @Abdullah-rm8pl
    @Abdullah-rm8pl 2 дні тому +14

    Dafran rocket changed my mind about rocket being healboot

  • @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683
    @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 День тому +1

    The take about rocket doing damage when it matters is totally true.

  • @SpectraSkittle
    @SpectraSkittle День тому +1

    My hot take: The Squirrel Girl hater was just a rule34 artist getting ready to drop a Squirrel Girl set on his patreon

  • @Nefariousbig
    @Nefariousbig День тому +3

    Scarlet Witch haters try to understand the difference between a skill CEILING and a skill FLOOR challenge difficulty: impossible

  • @jimraynor7788
    @jimraynor7788 День тому +1

    I think what he meant by delayed hitscan was that the reticle is just slightly ahead of your shot while moving it, but theres no bullet travel time. He didnt really prove that though, and im almost certain it's a projectile.

    • @rikiponcho
      @rikiponcho День тому

      @@jimraynor7788 it is, and its projectile speed is 150m/s

  • @Kiesling69
    @Kiesling69 2 дні тому +2

    My Hottake is that black panther is a single player game character with very little interaction happening

  • @lichkingsservant4111
    @lichkingsservant4111 20 годин тому

    The guy saying final hits with Scarlet Witch doesn’t matter is partly right since Scarlet is the character that can steal the most kills, if an enemy is in a bad position in a team fight and will die to someone she is the most likely character to get it even if she contributed the least to actually killing the person.

  • @HardStuckMagik
    @HardStuckMagik 2 дні тому +5

    yall are 100% sleeping on witch and certain comps you can absolutely destroy as her. she isnt a high skill ceiling character at all. its all positioning.

  • @john_hunter_
    @john_hunter_ День тому +1

    The video looks like it's a projectile. If you go frame by frame, you can actually see the bullets move through space before they hit the wall.
    It doesn't hit the wall in a single frame as soon as it's fired.

  • @stankyo
    @stankyo День тому

    They literally list all the hero abilities on the official website and in 3 seconds I was able to read "Delayed projectile"

  • @andrewcampbell9277
    @andrewcampbell9277 День тому

    I do think supports are boosted up until a certain point and get stuck until they learn the actual game outside of "spam heal and try to not die". I didn't see any on my team that I would say were genuinely good until at least diamond/low GM.

  • @marvynjeanbaptiste3206
    @marvynjeanbaptiste3206 2 дні тому +1

    I agree on the Spider Man doesn't take skill. Give him to any Doom or Genji one trick and they'll run lobbies after a day of practice

    • @adelmosallami
      @adelmosallami День тому +6

      And how long did it take those Doom or Genji mains to build up the skill to pilot said heroes in the first place?

  • @ethanelephants4740
    @ethanelephants4740 2 дні тому +1

    For the love of god don’t just hold right click on rocket, the healing doesn’t stack and you’re just wasting ammo for no reason.

  • @TheHankScorpio
    @TheHankScorpio 11 годин тому +1

    no way, the Superheroes in the game based on Superheroes has exaggerated bodytypes 😮

  • @Camaro-dy4tj
    @Camaro-dy4tj 5 годин тому

    10:23 when you can get a scwitch + namor you can have a crazy anti dive setup. I also like scwitch ult as a solution to double support ults if your mag can bubble at a decent time. If you can’t dps her, can’t cc her, you either have to play off a barrier that can be broken, or leave the area of the supp ult. In which case the team can get value. Very situational and I say this as the magneto player .

  • @plugmanyoda9718
    @plugmanyoda9718 12 годин тому

    Imagine being upset cause superheros have superhero physics

  • @kikook222
    @kikook222 2 дні тому +3

    I would love to see someone who thinks supports are boosted win a comp match without supports.

  • @caseyb1346
    @caseyb1346 2 дні тому +5

    8:44 Bro, you realize she has a right click attack that she can weave into her left click, right? And that attack does 70 damage with a direct hit, has splash damage, and she's got 4 shots in the tank with it. I really don't get all these people who act like her DPS is bad. Maybe its not Hela two tap good, but its respectable, especially when combined with her aoe stun + escape ability. She can live in the backlines feeding off med packs indefinitely, just like Psylock.

    • @EpsilonKnight2
      @EpsilonKnight2 День тому

      She's not awful as an assassin but honestly she does shine pretty hard when on defense. Not only does she get heals when hovering around the team, she also can avoid getting focused by ghosting in turn forcing a disengage since your allies are shooting them WHILE you're stunning them AND you're just a damage field on the objective the enemy can't avoid.

    • @caseyb1346
      @caseyb1346 День тому

      @@EpsilonKnight2 true, its easier to get her ult off on defense too, since that is where the luna ults and bubbles are. I think the fact she is flexible like that is one of her strengths. You can player her on your backline, on the flank, in their backlines, and you'll still get value.

  • @alanmonteros6432
    @alanmonteros6432 2 дні тому +4

    The SW discussion got me thinking, what would she need to be viable in higher ranks ?

    • @Gamersdontlookup
      @Gamersdontlookup 2 дні тому

      She is viable,people have one tricked her mostly to celestial but she is weak

    • @Evan-mt7bc
      @Evan-mt7bc 2 дні тому +16

      She physically can not be viable in high ranks because then she would DOMINATE the game for 80% of the playerbase. There is literally not a single change you could make to her kit that would make her good in Masters that wouldn't be 70+% win rate in quick play and bronze 3.
      Honestly the fact that she has a 47% winrate in Diamond and above and Bronze 3 according to rivalsmeta is a fucking anomaly that should be applauded by Netease

    • @torrentarrow9097
      @torrentarrow9097 2 дні тому

      Copying from a post I made on r/marvelrivals
      Scarlet Witch
      Arguably the worst character in the game and looking to give her a boost in viability in higher ranks without effecting her too much in lower ranks. Attempting to tie her changes I made to landing directing hits with abilities which will be good for good players and not really changing a whole lot for players that can't aim in lower ranks. Low ranks will complain about the Ult no matter what so doesn't matter what changes are made to it.
      New Ability
      Passive -Curse: - When Chthonian Burst hits an enemy (directly not splash) or the enemy is in Dark Seal they will be marked/afflicted with Curse.
      Curse will stun enemies for 0.5s, every 0.8s and lasts 4.5s. (Curse works like how Dark Seal works right now in game)
      Attacks
      Chaos Control: - Now only charges Chthonian Burst when the target is marked/afflicted by Curse.
      - Deals an extra 4 base damage + 0.2% of the enemy's max health when the enemy is marked/afflicted with Curse.
      Cthonian Burst: - Direct damage increased to 50 from 30. Splash damage decreased to 30 from 35.
      - Chaos Control no longer reduces cool down of Cthonian Burst unless enemy is marked/afflicted by Curse.
      Promotes actually landing the attack and punishing missing.
      Dark Seal: - Cooldown increased to 15s up from 12s.
      - Enemies are marked/afflicted by Curse when inside Dark Seal.
      With the addition of the Curse mechanic this ability needs to have a higher cooldown for balance reasons.
      Reality Erasure: - Immune to damage during charge up. Can be stunned out of the ult.
      - During the 4 second charge time; enemies in direct line of sight within 15m will be marked/afflicted with Curse.
      - Slow down increased to 35% by 1 second and 50% at 3.5 seconds. From max of 35% by 3.5s.
      One of the worst Ults in the game now will actually be more of a major threat. Forces CC. The movement nerf is to stop the Ult from being used around corners waiting for full charge as you will be too slow to meaningfully move towards the enemies while the Curse debuff will allow for you to move towards the enemies to counter the movement nerf but still forcing you to use it in the open. Forces you to use it more in the open to give the enemy time during that full 4 second charge time to CC you out of it.

    • @aleks_v1
      @aleks_v1 2 дні тому

      the alt attack should be stronger and a more viable means to play, that introduces skill expression
      basically to be balanced for low and viable at high you need anything that allows skill expression in any form, to be better than the baseline bot
      so moira for example usually wasnt considered strong at high rank, but there is still some expression through dash movement, trying to be unkillable, timing on positioning, i compare because its an autoaim succ character
      introduce some synergy between abilities with a passive, or tweak something in the ult, something to make it more like dva bomb, which is a perfectly fine ult in high elo (arguably something to do with the fact wanda just fuckin dies against better players, but in my opinion there is a real use case in a luna vs luna where youre unkillable and the enemies are bunched up together and one-shottable, i quite wonder why scarlett players arent using the support ult situation with an ally ult to their advantage, for their survivability)

    • @mauriceanderson5413
      @mauriceanderson5413 День тому

      Swap main fire. Gain charge to your beam by landing projectiles. Reduce tracking immensely for the ray.
      Shorten ult activation by 1 second. After explosion she gets a huge speed boost and/or okay shield for a few seconds.
      Fixed.

  • @TopoSalsero
    @TopoSalsero День тому +1

    Not even to start, Im a filler player, we were doing for a round and a half 3 supports, we were about to lose and a switched to Winter Soldier and we got the draw to then win on the tie breaker, I simply don't instalock bc math tells me, someone who is somewhat mediocre but is happy with their choice is better than someone who is forced to go something else or worse, going with a bad comp to start.

  • @Harkonis
    @Harkonis 2 дні тому +1

    Since rocket heal orbs dont stack, he can damage and still heal even if double support

  • @GoodMenstruationAttitude
    @GoodMenstruationAttitude 2 дні тому

    me rewatching that panther kill over and over just to hear the kitty roar

  • @xyriliawhitestrake7263
    @xyriliawhitestrake7263 8 годин тому

    Mfw complaint about women being too hot and men being roided monster. Brother they're literally super beings, of course they're hot too.

  • @jsht6628
    @jsht6628 День тому

    God I cant wait to spread misinformation on the internet by clipping seagull talking about booty out of context.

  • @Ranorimonus
    @Ranorimonus 14 годин тому

    Started playing 2 weeks ago, I'm playing 1 dps character and that's it and I hit Celestial after 1 week of ranked. No way in hell I could do that if I need to learn 2 characters in 3 roles. It would take so much damn time.

  • @justincha4973
    @justincha4973 День тому +1

    life as a support main in marvel rivals-damn if you do damn if you dont cause you're going to be the scrapegoat 😅😭

  • @donnymccarthy4756
    @donnymccarthy4756 7 годин тому

    I play Mantis bc everyone instalocks DPS EVERY damn game. Rarely have 2 other guys choose a support character

  • @maramba32
    @maramba32 2 дні тому +12

    if support is so "easy" why dont they play the role then

    • @jaxsonburch-eo1vz
      @jaxsonburch-eo1vz 2 дні тому +12

      Because we don’t play characters based off their difficulty. We play characters based off how fun they are and more dps are more fun then supports. Also, what makes you think that the people saying support is easy aren’t playing support? I play every role and I think support is easy. It requires the least mechanical skill.

    • @mcNuggetMuncher
      @mcNuggetMuncher 2 дні тому +7

      Supports the easiest role tbh

    • @mauriceanderson5413
      @mauriceanderson5413 День тому +1

      In all sport scene supports are paid less in teams.
      Even ppl behind pros know it

    • @Jabbadabut123
      @Jabbadabut123 День тому +5

      That’s the thing, we DO and it’s hilarious. I made a new account and I played nothing but support and climbed to celestial 3 IMMEDIATELY meanwhile on my main I took me WEEEEEKS to get to even grandmaster on DPS.

  • @adamswarbrick8791
    @adamswarbrick8791 День тому +2

    I got some friends in from league and they almost immediately identified how busted and easy supports are. It was so funny that every time the enemy tried to do anything we had a luna/cloak/Sue ult ready without even trying

    • @xyriliawhitestrake7263
      @xyriliawhitestrake7263 7 годин тому

      Bruh I played invisible woman for the first time when she came out and lost it when I realized she had long range thresh flay, that ability can be so powerful

  • @HelloYersoGae
    @HelloYersoGae День тому

    I've gotten MVP as a Jeff because I'm not heal button but I'm hanging out in the back line bothering the heck out of people.
    I may not be a black panther but everyone wants to kill the little shark even if it means getting off the objective

  • @MarioHerena
    @MarioHerena 2 дні тому +13

    Support are the worst players ? Lmao stop healing dps and watch them run into the other team over and over again then proceed to blame you for not healing

    • @egorex1834
      @egorex1834 День тому +2

      You pretty much proved their point.

    • @dragonlord564
      @dragonlord564 День тому +3

      I don't know if that is comparable. These types of games are based on team fights where players assume the other players are going to naturally fill the role they chose - If a DPS is in a supports line of sight it's a natural assumption that they can take riskier fights because with a healer around they have higher effective health
      Meanwhile. In the example the comment brought up. People do not have a map of every player in the game - If you are being attacked or suspect you are going to be ambused it's better you communicate that to your team then just expect everyone to drop the fight they are currently on to check if you are okay

    • @Voodoo_Occasions
      @Voodoo_Occasions День тому +1

      If the enemy team is getting healed and you aren't healing that is just a heal diff. To know if dps players are bad just have all of the dps switch to healer and all of the healers switch to dps and see who performs better on the other role.

    • @why1638
      @why1638 День тому

      ​@@egorex1834nope ive played with dmg players who can flank and win fights instead of face tanking enemy shots and spamming heal me
      Dmg skill issue

    • @krish698
      @krish698 День тому

      @@why1638 op and you are prime example of a boosted support. A DPS will both fight with your tanks on the frontline and go on flanks depending on the situation. Refusing to heal a DPS is wild. If you want them to do the actual damage as opposed to running after health packs constantly you have to heal them.

  • @domicci4460
    @domicci4460 День тому

    2:08 everything cloak and dagger has to worry about every other support does ontop of having to aim

  • @grgrararagagagagrggaagga5316
    @grgrararagagagagrggaagga5316 День тому

    saying supports are bad and boosted is the most bronze take ever

  • @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683
    @gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 День тому

    Sqrl is at the literal edge of thicc

  • @ogJbizz
    @ogJbizz День тому

    Reddit threads have literally never changed theyre all the same kinda wild

  • @PupTundy
    @PupTundy День тому

    3:00 there was a panther in my ranked game TARGETING our cloak and dagger, i was playing starloard and couldnt do much, he played crazy good, had us both locked in spawn, acted like i leaving and my first response to our support was " i cant do much but im not leaving you." The whole time our team was easy pushing point. Felt like they were going to mald and play much worse if i didnt help. All to say help eachother out more ^-^ you play worse angry and play soo much better saying and doing things altruistically

  • @kitty_-_meow
    @kitty_-_meow 15 годин тому

    Literally just hit gm tonight playing support, i feel like the boosted allegations are pretty true considering i have the mechanical skill of basically a penguin. (Highest I’ve ever climbed in other shooters were silver in apex and valorant) while I’m surrounded by mechanically gifted players who are the top percentile in many different games. It’s totally fine though as long as I’m doing my job fine.

  • @Glut_tonous
    @Glut_tonous 20 годин тому

    They don't understand what hitscan and projectiles mean lmao

  • @DanManly95
    @DanManly95 День тому

    My hot take is that Black panther is easy, people that play him aren't good at the game, and BP mains are usually the most toxic in the game.
    I never played him, only seem clips, decided to play him once, and within 2 minutes I was hitting one shot combos in the backline. It's stupid easy. 1 star difficulty hero.

  • @heathaltom8601
    @heathaltom8601 4 години тому

    Why Seagull do you wound me so? Rocket is fun and fits a niche that I enjoy. Though healbotting in the back is boring af. I enjoy taking off angles with dps with Los of my team. Help the dps secure a kill and circle back between them and the tank/tanks.
    Running around like a psycho with a machine gun in Rivals feels sooo good.

  • @AuguaTTV
    @AuguaTTV День тому

    If you have an editor let them know to zoom in on the text whenever you are talking it was kinda hard to tell when you were giving your take or just reading one :) just trying to be helpful

  • @Kortezxero
    @Kortezxero День тому

    Didn't even watch the video yet, but the thumbnail made me irrationally angry. I want that guy to never be allowed to have healers on his teams ever again. After a month of that let's take a look at his games.

  • @Sotanaht01
    @Sotanaht01 День тому +5

    As a Luna main, CD takes a lot of technical skill. Luna requires more mechanics (IE aiming), but I find CD harder to play personally. I can't really wrap my head around when to switch between heals and damage, and I find cloaks escape harder to use than the snowball because of the extra step required to switch first.

    • @dukeofgotham4311
      @dukeofgotham4311 День тому +8

      Skill issue.

    • @Beleth420
      @Beleth420 День тому +7

      Luna is harder, when you play more CD it gets easy. Try putting the swap forms on mouse wheel. I have my invis on shift and the walls on both forms on right click. It helped me alot. Having just the bubble on E. When you swap forms hold jump to get to high ground.

    • @vergil3872
      @vergil3872 День тому +1

      This is definitely a hot take lmao

    • @Claudetwofunf
      @Claudetwofunf День тому

      ​@@Beleth420 we are twins

    • @n7grey
      @n7grey День тому +1

      Luna is most definitely harder. Just play a few of hours of Cloak straight and you’ll “get” them, there’s not much depth.

  • @ApparentlyJade
    @ApparentlyJade День тому

    Same shit different game. Support mains don’t deserve to be in whatever rank they’re in ever. Solo queued Support to diamond in the early seasons of overwatch and people gave you shit for every single little mistake you make.

  • @defrte
    @defrte День тому +2

    Trying to picture how a delayed hit scan works
    I am befuddled.

  • @baseballfan4877
    @baseballfan4877 День тому +2

    I think that guy's comment about Spidey is , like me, sick of all the people being like "omg Spidey is so hard I am just so much better at the game than you because I can play Spidey". When in reality, it really isn't that fucking hard

  • @K1LLW1N
    @K1LLW1N День тому

    That Rocket hitscan video with the custom crosshairs... i used all the crosshairs he made xD took me a minute to set them all up... they made sense to. But then I found I couldn't hit stick, so i went with a dot and my aim improved 100%. Some of those crosshairs just get in the way.

    • @Xokken333
      @Xokken333 День тому +1

      Tiny dot is the best for rocket. You watch his bullets, it’s closer to directing a stream than shooting bullets.

    • @sirwolfiusmaximus4201
      @sirwolfiusmaximus4201 День тому +3

      These "advanced" custom crosshairs are just noob bait for views. It takes literally 5-10 minutes in training ground to learn where your bullets go.

    • @Xokken333
      @Xokken333 День тому +1

      @@sirwolfiusmaximus4201 based, people just want some quick hack to land shots better that doesn’t exist. I guarantee your rank won’t change because your storm crosshair is yellow and angled 45 degrees, practice.

    • @Link-kr2bc
      @Link-kr2bc День тому

      weird custom crosshairs are only really useful if you use them for lineups or something and besides peni no hero so far does that

  • @AlonescapeRS
    @AlonescapeRS День тому

    I am actually top 500, I know i'm in Celestial 3 atm but i'm a delayed top 500.

  • @mintparfait
    @mintparfait День тому

    Okay, but if it's not considered too mean spirited. More of that guys cross-hairs need to be reacted to and laughed at. He's such a grifter, but they got huge on tiktok so I see those nasty unusable cross-hairs all over the place 😂

  • @v1kzu
    @v1kzu День тому

    Scoreboard was a mistake. Keep seeing braindead folks pointing out to the Adam player that he did less healing than the Rocket player.
    Dentge

  • @stefanusunicorn7483
    @stefanusunicorn7483 2 дні тому +12

    1:03 must be a concord enjoyer 😂😂😂

  • @BigDaddyMacc
    @BigDaddyMacc День тому +1

    I had a game where a player that didnt have a clue how to play groot saying "when are you going to heal me?" he been heald the whole round non stop and we lost 99-100. then next round he said I WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO HEAL.... We lose 0-100....

  • @ryanbaker1475
    @ryanbaker1475 2 дні тому +7

    My hot take: Any “alt” or “unranked to GM” acc is a smurf as soon as it queues for ranked.
    Learn heros in training and qp, the way the modes were intended to be used. Qp has SBMM, the difference ain’t that bad. There is zero reason to have another account when you can just play qp with friends instead of boosting them. It’s also not fair when low elos q ranked that their match integrity can be ruined by ppl who don’t belong in that elo.

    • @DustinEG6
      @DustinEG6 2 дні тому +1

      That doesn't solve anything though, there's always going to be new people playing the game and people just starting their ranked journey of all different skill levels. There will always be people in lower ranks that don't belong there for whatever reason.

    • @ryanbaker1475
      @ryanbaker1475 2 дні тому +1

      @ It reduces the prevalence of it.

    • @bobrabo3320
      @bobrabo3320 2 дні тому +6

      QP is not where you go to practice. You'll only get real games in ranked. But I agree, top players should learn to be okay with losing to learn new characters rather than making a new account and starting from the bottom. Its very tricky situation.

    • @hunt7533
      @hunt7533 День тому

      QP haves EOMM, it does not have SBMM lmao

    • @hunt7533
      @hunt7533 День тому

      ​@@bobrabo3320They're too worried about their stats looking bad, boohoo.

  • @xKingxTitus
    @xKingxTitus День тому

    You have to sort by controversial to find the actual hot take

  • @GreenDayKid16
    @GreenDayKid16 День тому +1

    These are actually bad takes on bad takes 😂

  • @Gimladesh
    @Gimladesh 2 дні тому +3

    Rocket's healing fields from his secondary do not stack and last two seconds. The balls also bounce 10 times and have a decent seeking area when they find a damaged enemy that isn't already being effected by an orb meaning you don't really need LoS. Unless your team is constantly separating or running away from the healing fields you have time to put in damage.
    Rockets main issue is that he's only deadly in 15 meter or less range, but he has a tiny hitbix, two dashes, a wall crawl that greatly boosts his movement speed, and when you use your own blue packs you ascend from the heavens and can hold jump to float slowly while shooting.
    Rocket cannot burst like Adam from the backline, he does not have the tools to kill alone because he has no CC, but he can be a nasty surprise. If you take an off angle, climb high, hide ect. you can absolutely blindside a character with how much damage you dome them for with your primary fire. However that takes work, which means a lot of rockets don't bother.
    Your damage is never going to top charts because you aren't throwing it out from across the battlefield and you aren't clipping the enemy as you try to heal a bunny hopping ally. It'll just be whenever an idiot gets to close or when you see an opportunity to push an angle.
    I'm not going to pretend rocket isn't easy to healbot on. If your conservative with your placement of your res totem and just spam healing orbs you'll get nice looking stats. You aren't Luna though, you can't burst heal well enough to make that your only contribution.
    Check a rockets kills after a match rather than their damage. The ult and easy healing is going to pad the healing or assist numbers, but if a rocket is making plays by shredding enemies so that the rest of the team can burst them down, then they're actually a good rocket and their kills will reflect that.

    • @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
      @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong День тому

      This exactly. Rocket is low skill, that much is true, but not using his high dps up close is just ludicrous.
      No one in Overwatch should ever healbot. In Rivals the same should apply, if you can secure a kill and everyone is healthy you stop healing and start blasting.
      I've punished so many people that just think rocket is a free kill and often times I either get them so low they still die after killing me (A tank for a sub healer is genuinely a worthy trade) or I win the duel outright because of his high theoretical dps (similar to lifeweaver except it doesn't take half a year to swap between firing types)

  • @yermil890
    @yermil890 День тому

    im hearing "stand still so i can heal" in diamond from supports. im genuinely hearing them say "i cannot aim in diamond" yes supports are boosted. if not macro wise then absolutely mechanically

    • @EpsilonKnight2
      @EpsilonKnight2 День тому

      It's even more hilarious that there's only really 2 healers that don't have significant targeted or radius healing. Luna has to aim her regular shots but still has the guard auto targeting and Jeff needs to mostly aim his spit and bubbles.

  • @easylivinglife6284
    @easylivinglife6284 День тому +2

    Okay so everyone on reddit seems to think this game has losers queue. So, here is what I found. Situation: DIamond player mostly using Thor, Venom and Mantis, firend is gold, made an alt to play with him.
    At first I played Mr Fantastic and Wanda. Off role characters to learn. We ranked until I hit gold3. Then we hit a brick wall. It was like every other role was massively diffed or gap- sometimes me included. Games were so hard.
    So I switched back to my "Diamond" characters only to still lose? But wait, I thought I was a diamond player, right?
    Nope, still, every other role was massivley gapped.
    We went into discovery mode, after like 15 games loss streak. Surely enough, almost all of our teamates in these games were on massively loss streaks- including us. Idkw but the game just paired us with people who were also really tilted and on losing runs. This is what I call losers queue.
    As for "Why cant I carry him out with diamond play style in gold?" Well, because these aren't even close games. Like literally watching allies run into walls and jump off the map, afk for 4 minuts after deaths, etc. Like we'd win a few fights here and there, but never win the game. And it felt like it didn't matter what I did, there was no way I could save the game.
    Stats for my accounts:
    Main- Diamond rank
    131 games
    79 wins
    Venom: 56% win rate
    Thor: 52% win rate
    Mantis: 60% (only have like 2 hours total with her as she is my fill)
    2nd account: Gold rank
    128 games
    51 wins
    Wanda: 39% win rate
    Mr. Fantastic 42% win rate
    Thor: 48% win rate
    - I didn't play any other tank, but did dabble in other DPS like hawkeye and Iron man- all losses after like 2 games each
    Now, does this prove losers queue is real? Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that I looked at the other profiles and it seemes to be that the enemy team is stacked with people on wins streaks and my teams were full of people on loss streaks- inlcuding me and my friend. If you doubt, I have screen capped the games and matches and can compare the profiles. I am now a believer in losers queue bro... can't believe I would ever say that

    • @fighisver
      @fighisver День тому

      Or maybe diamond isn't as good as you thought and playing random characters in gold and winning consistently actually still is a challenge. Maybe diamond players don't have any real game plan or think about the game in a different way to make a difference in a gold game of people just doing random shit.

    • @easylivinglife6284
      @easylivinglife6284 День тому

      @@fighisver Maybe. Still doesn't answer to the fact that for 15 games or so, the majority of the people in my team were on lose streaks and the majority of the people in the enemy team were on win streaks.

  • @aaron8977
    @aaron8977 2 дні тому

    During other support alts and during his ult you gotta be mashing that left click. That’s most of his damage 🤣🤣

  • @corinna-s2h
    @corinna-s2h День тому

    I mean obviously they have to be good enough to keep the team alive it's there job

  • @Ivan-iy3ds
    @Ivan-iy3ds 2 дні тому +5

    Squirrel girl take was THE hottest take

  • @frfrbussin
    @frfrbussin День тому

    When will you start Timetagging or whatever its called the top ones you pick from 1 to last

  • @ThKillinJo
    @ThKillinJo День тому

    too be fair, i really hope that Captain Marvel is a roid monster

  • @JButterZJ
    @JButterZJ День тому +1

    Lilacspider, "you dont see any good supports till the upper 5% of players" - he is probably a dps player and plat max, cause that take is so unbelievably braindead. yes spiderman does lower dmg but u can between attacks move fast around and u are still not hittable, IF THE SPIDERMAN PLAYERS HAS HIS LIMBS ATTACHED
    what a loser