I mean step 2 was "we gotta make desert power before the, fuck they came earlier than I anticipated", since Thufier was essentially predicting that the Baron and the Emperor weren't going to immediately attack, that they'd bide their time, forgetting that the Baron had 80 years of spice hoarding to get enough money to finance the war as soon as the Duke set foot on the planet.
@@aaronwishard7093 That was why Leto and Thufir arranged the attack on the Harkonnen spice reserves, hoping they would be able to bide their time just enough to secure their position on Arrakis. Also, I recall Thufir not believing the Emperor would directly reinforce the Harkonnen attack with his Sardaukar, since technically that risked someone like Kynes stepping up and saying it violated the great convention.
@@SuperNovaJinckUFO Having reread the book recently, I can assuredly say that you're correct in that the attack on the spice hoard was a very prominent move to keep the Harkonens at bay. If that's truly an idea that was on the characters line of thinking, that was never spoken aloud. Because when Paul and Leto are discussing "the trap", that entire conversation is Paul: This is a terrible trap Dad. Leto: I know, the first thing we gotta do is know that it's there. Because if we tip our hand that we know the Emperor and the Harkonens are plotting together. They'll just evade and come at us elsewhere. Paul: So the Emperor will send the Sardukar? Leto: Disgused in Harkonen uniforms, but the fanatical hoards none the less. So if Thufier REALLY didn't think that the emperor would send his legions, he had a really shitty way of telling his Duke and heir to the title of Duke. Especially when in the previous scene we had just been given the information that Paul is a baby mentat himself.
I can control genital temperature, I know the two hundred and five sexual positions, I have mastered the three hundred steps of orgasmic amplification!
Posso chiedere come va interpretato il tuo nickname? Mi permetto di scrivere in Italiano perché mi pare di capire lo sia anche tu, che porti il marchio
@@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635 sorry, your nickname tricked me into thinking it. “Sono” means I am in Italian and so I was asking what your nick meant
@@giovas5176 It's a joke and a refference to Jojo's Bizzare Adventure's. The first opening song to be precise. There's a part that goes "Sono chi no Sadame!" and I added sodium chloride as a joke
"Tleilaxu sperm does not talk" actually had some meaning within the book. Something about genetic code that cannot be deciphered. Does sound funny, though.
I think the "woman orgasms when man climbs mountain" one is the dumbest. It's the one that most makes me go "the author is being stupid right now" as opposed to "this character is being stupid right now."
I remember in the opening of _God-emperor_ the first time we're introduced to Siona. Her and the survivors of her commando are running away from the palace with what we understand to be very important documents, hunted by genetically-engineered wolves. The second-to-last man alive falls and dies, the last one bravely decides to sacrifice himself to buy her time. It's tense , it's a great opener and a great introduction to our new protagonist and then the narrator tells us that when she runs Siona sends powerful sexual signals to the males who see her. I bursted out laughing.
God Emperor of Dune might honestly be one of the horniest non smut books ive ever read. Emperor Leto is the biggest dick in the galaxy, and the whole book is just one long dick joke after another. At the end Leto's giant worm form plunges into a wet valley, crushing Hwi in the process, with Leto bursting out a bunch of his swimming sand trout to seed Arrakis with new life. I refuse to believe Frank Herbert didnt do all that on purpose.
Well she was not really protagonist she is more like cause a reason to why certain characters exit in that place at certin time and I also very much hated that frank herpert wil return to hot headed stupid replies teenager she is what Paul would have been in generic and worse story
@@Katharsis540 Honestly, I get Siona was supposed to be the savior of the universe and that her children would free humanity from prescience… But she’s also pretty unbearable. I’d leave the job of spreading her genes to someone else thank you very much.
The deleted chapters that appear in Road to Dune have some tamer ones. Paul interrupts one of Mohiam's speeches to say that he's a boy and she thinks something along the lines of, "Incredible perception; maybe he is the Kwisatz Haderach."
Not quite as bad as these, but near the beginning of God Emperor where Siona is running away from the wolves for some reason the book takes a sentence to describe how hot her butt looks when she's running for her life. Thank you Herbert, that was definitely information that needed to be said in that moment.
It really is. Best part is its played completely straight. Honestly Herbert probably was just seeing how much goofy horny he could fit in a book series between all the philosophy and politics. That said, still a great series.
hominess or hor-niness ? actually Corrino means Corn, Horn , horny boys. the Lords of the Horns are the Claudians, Clothi (drusses, dross, Drusus). horn is elk thus also Elkanites.
"Friends of the stomach" thing actually sounds real. Definitely stupid, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if some historic noble had attempted to wax philosophical in the same way on their deathbed. One of Leto II's few humanising moments.
I always though that line was quite clever actually. Given that Hwi was created to charm Leto, she came up with a very original attempt at comedy, something that even an all knowing being would find amusing.
"Baby, we have gone through so much! We've had so much in common!" "Uh huh, sure, like what my Emperor?" "Uhhh..." "...well?" "We...both like...yogurt?"
You forget the swipe at Star Wars in Heretics: Someone who surrounds themselves with cheap plastic knockoffs of the real thing is called a "3-PO" because the names of the three most common plastics all start with the letters p and o.
I know a worse one! I believe it's from the sixth book: someone important (Tieg or Duncan) had just been killed and the reverend mothers didn't want to wait for a clone. So, one of them gives the order to salvage the brain with forbidden technology, just two words: "cyborg him!"
It was neither of them, it was her driver killed in line of duty; she later doesn't recognize him due to the alterations done to him and is horrified over herself
I remember reading the two tleilaxu masters standing on each other's shoulders under a robe and remmeber being completley dumbfounded. I had to stop for a few hours to recompose myself after that completley rediculous picture in my head.
I think that was the point. Heretics as much as I like it is pertty silly at times. But as is pointed out in the video, I think now that this is intentional on Herbert's part.
@@AlexanderPC123 I just finished book one and that is already full of cringe nonsense. It also has super cool world building and stuff, and the story did keep me interested. But holy shit, this book is OBSESSED with "strength" and "control" and it gets old real quick
“DESERTO POOOOOOOOOOOOWAH!” I love it when a normally serious series like Dune throws in a really goofy moment every now and then. Kinda like metal gear solid or something lol
They forgot to mention oasis power, and there is subtropical desert power, coastal desert power, rain shadow desert power and continental interior desert power. So many geographical distinctions, so many diffrent powers! What an embarrassing oversight.
I was going to comment this on the recent 6 books video, but I'll say it here instead: There's a _lot_ of Herbert writing that feels like an old man pining after sex he can no longer have. Given how things ended up with his wife, God bless them, this is both sad and unsurprising. But, man. Beefswelling. Every time.
I mean..Frank and Bev were fairly freaky given the period they lived. I can absolutely see him using his writing as an outlet when her health began to wane.
Sometimes Dune feels like it's been mistranslated from an Alien lang- Oh my god that's exactly what's happening... And the further the series gets, the further from our time it gets, so the sloppier the translation...
That is actually VERY interesting. Because every chapter heading is started off as being some excerpt from somebody else's written work, like Irulan, or some other historian. Huh.
Yup lmao "The thread no longer was stretching. It was pulling back, compressing. It became one small thing, a sausage of such exquisite pain that nothing else existed. The sense of being became vague, translucent... transparent. “Do you see?” the voice of her mohalata guide came from far away. I see things. Not exactly seeing. A distant awareness of others. Other sausages. Other Memory encased in the skins of lost lives. They extended behind her in a train whose length she could not determine." Chapterhouse: Dune, Chapter 35
I always thought it was a fantastic description. Pulses of blended pain and experience representing past ego-memories. The important part is the skin that binds and separates the egos like events in time.
So what your saying is that the David Lynch version of Dune was accurate in that it's style matched the word choice of the later books? Gatcha, heh heh
@@wilgefortisohlin568 The world missed out on David Lynch's God Emperor of Dune. Just imagine, an animatronic Leto II with a narration about him really wanting bone a lady 3000 years younger than him with his nonexistent penis. He could pull it off.
@@CleverGirlAAH I'll admit that he did a better job than Lynch of showing certain things rather than telling (the narrator having to tell us that Paul and Chani are in love was great accidental comedy) and of conveying subtext (like that Paul is not a monomythic hero but a sinister imitation of one.)
Yes! It does. Hes referring to how the Tleilaxu have an unreadable genetic code where as everyones else can have their genes traced by heritage and scanned for traits like prescient ability.
The best follow-up to the previous video. Now I know why it was created - to bring us the needed context and ground-work for this masterpiece of analysis.
I love the Dune books but yeah there is some *WEIRD HORNY* stuff in there. I really love Heretics but fully acknowledge how silly some of it is. But the last 3 books really paved the way for the kind of darkly silly sci-fi that we see in Warhammer, Star wars, ect. There is a certain humor to the books. The Hounoured Matres are kind of funny in a dark and totally outragious way.
Don't be too hard with my little beloved Lucilla 😢😢!! She had her flaws but I really loved her for her bravery and her human side, and the great suffering she was hiding 😢😢 just as her cousin Odrade (because of a true problem in my life once, I really cried of desesperation when their lifes were been taken (yes we all have our uncontrollables and irrationals traumas)😢😢 !! I can even defend Lucilla on thoses lines - For the two tleilaxu masters in a coat : she didn't see but heard a familiar voice "The bulky figure spoke in a piping voice, the accent chillingly familiar to Lucilla" (heretics of Dune), so I think Lucilla only made a deduction, especially when Burzmali told her "Couldn't be," ... "Too tall.", maybe a too hasty deduction, but her situation was dangerous, she was nervous (even if later she controlled herself enough to save situation with Murbella after all, (thank you my Lucilla one of my heroin despite everything ❤❤). The reason why whe should have two tlelaxu masters, "one on the shoulders of the other" is unclear, yes this is weird, but I'm thinking why not, I can accept many things of that weird people, the tleilaxu and especially their masters, and I can accept many things of that weird planet gammu, of that weird city Ysai, and of that weird scattering. Aaahhh a little thing, Ysai, that very poor city very dangerous and even really, I mean really evil in some way (It's just me ? or this is the american ultraliberal vision ?) - For Lucilla talking about her sexual abilities, yes 205 positions, 300 ...amplification... are a nosense but hey, we are in fiction 🤣🤣, and is that really more stupid than being prescient or to become a worm like Leto II 🤣🤣 ? Yes Lucilla is boasting a little but I laugh of that, I mean, Lucilla is saying, You think I'm a noob Sirafa, or you think my abilities are a mere agility ? Look at what I can make ! 🤣🤣 And after that Sirafa is like uh ... yes ... yes... it's impressive, I didn't really know, 🤣🤣 and she says to burzmali "Why didn't you warn me?" and he tells her "I did" 🤣🤣 -For "She waved a hand at his stiffly upcocked penis" "I can see that Skar does not object to your preparations for this venture," Sirafa said. She waved a hand at his stiffly upcocked penis." (Heretics of Dune) Sorry but Sirafa did it, not Lucilla. - Lucilla with the spider Queen. Yes she knows she's gonna die my poor little one 😢😢, so doesn't matter of what she can think about ? She accomplished her mission my poor Lucilla and saved memories of Lampadas at least, let her be lost in her memory, even for simples and ingsinifiants things as garlic and it imaginary power against werewolfes ! 🤣 I don't think Lucilla really believes garlic is efficient against werewolfes or the werewolfes really exist. Sometimes, we talk about werewolfes, Unicorns, about Santa claus even, seriously, as if they exist !! Even if we know all of this is a joke for our children !! 🤣🤣 Rest in peace my courageous Lucilla who never once flinched from your duties, rest in peace with miles teg, your love your never had, and with your symbolic mother or big sister Odrade ❤❤ !! You are really like werewolfes, unicorns or santa claus for me !!! Both of you !!!🤣🤣 You don't exist at all, but sometimes fiction is a such symbol, with such memories !!!❤❤❤
Also if I remember correctly Duncan or someone didn't know what the Holocaust was despite there being several in the Dune Universe and Hitler is still a known historical figure.
@@akrybion Hitler is not a known historical figure. Many people in the Dune universe don't even believe the Earth really existed. Paul only knows about Hitler for his past memories.
Yea, Paul says that Hitler was bad, he only killed a couple dozen million people, Paul says that he had killed more than anyone in history - but that Hitler must have said the same thing.
And I allso love when Paul did this sick Ninja stunt where he kicked one of the Harkonen soldiers so hard in the chests that he destroys the soldier's heart like what? How on earth did he manage to do that?
That's normal weirding way shit. If they can move their whole bodies faster than eye can see, the amount of physicial force they can generate must be massive.
That almost happen irl to Stallone on Rocky IV when he told Dolph Lundgren to punch for real. Stallone almost had a heart attack from being punched in the chest. Stalonne kept the shot in iirc
Nah, “We are friends of the stomach. We both like yogurt.” goes hard without context. Such a simple premise to bind two souls, because what more do we truly need?
I kinda like the garlic one. I tend to do fact-dropping when I'm stressed. No doubt that if I was trying to keep my calm knowing I'm eating my last meal, I would focus on any "stupid" detail about the food. The Orgasm climbing is really a wtf one.
I read the the "beefswelling" line many decades ago and it was so horrific that I thought of it immediately when I saw that this video was about the ten dumbest lines. I wasn't all that surprised that it was actually included.
I just had a shocking epiphany about #9. (The one with Nayla) Nayla's big moment is not caused merely by watching Duncan climb a cliff. It's due to her weird religious conditioning called "Siaynoq", established earlier in the book. All of Leto's Fish Speakers have been conditioned towards arousal, and it's a sort psycho-sexual release valve that they experience like a "limit break" effect in the presence of their God Emperor. Duncan essentially out-masculines Nayla's God and she sexually imprints upon him in that moment... Weird? Yes, I know, that's just Dune; but it gets weirder. Watch the openining of 'Highlander II: The Quickening" (1991), which is the sequel to 'Highlander' (1986). Highlander II establishes that the dueling Immortals were actually alien warriors from the two-mooned desert planet Zeist, banished to Earth after a failed rebellion against the evil General Katana (Again, I swear I'm not making this up.) Conner and Ramírez perform a Water of Life(ish) ceremony to seal their bond before being sent to Earth swordfight across centuries for "The Prize" through an electro-orgasmic phenomenon called "The Quickening." There's also a convoluted plot about an energy shield around Earth to replace the Ozone, and Virginia "Princess Irulan" Madsen is in this, but that's not important. Conner Macleod and Juan Sánchez-Villalobos Ramírez's relationship mirrors that of Duncan Idaho and Miles Teg in both 'Heretics' and 'Chapterhouse: Dune'. (1984 & 1985, respectively.) By 1992 we have 'Highlander: The Series" which features a new Highlander named "Duncan". If we assume that 'Highlander' is borrowing many of its core concepts from those later 'Dune' books (namely, a period-hopping space samurai named Duncan), it means that the electrical "Quickening" which unlocks lifetimes of experience is roughly analagous to Nayla's spiritual orgasm in 'God Emperor of Dune'. (1980) Also note that 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' (1989) has Captain Kirk scaling El Capitan before traveling to the two-mooned desert planet Nimbus III, which is controlled by fanatics on a quest to find God. Kirk also wrestles a furry cat woman at some point, who is not unlike the Futars described in 'Chapterhouse: Dune' (1985). Pretty sure that 'Star Trek V' is the one directed by William Shatner too...
before watching this video i hope nayla getting off on duncan's rock climbing skills is on here somewhere edit: thank you, that really caught me out of left field when i read it the first time lol
This is why every author needs an editor, not just to check spelling and grammar, but to be a close enough friend and associate to be able to say "Holy shit, you're shut-in is showing badly right here..."
You know how Warhammer 40k went from wacky parodic sci-fi to a mostly serious tone with wacky hijinks shoved to the background? Dune is the opposite of that
To clarify Leto is almost certainly the one who say the yogurt line not Hwi. Hwi speaks frist “is Monroe your friend, too?” Lato’s replies “We are are friends of the stomach. We both like yogurt” it doesn’t explicitly say who’s responding, but otherwise she’d be responding to her own question.
In context, these lines are not as weird as you may think, and certainly not dumb as the video title asserts. I believe many of these are Herbert's attempts at humor or levity in an otherwise very serious novel. In God Emperor for example, Leto II makes a lot of jokes, and is actually playful, relatively speaking, but it's hard for the reader to take it as such, amidst all the heavy heady philosophy... and especially if the reader doesn't understand what is being said half of the time. I don't remember the context from Heretics and Chapterhouse... perhaps it's time for a re-read.
2:53 I’ve noticed some inconsistencies like this when reading dune. I don’t know if it’s just an author thing, but when reading about Paul and his first Fremen fight, FH describes “glowlights” illuminating the area when they first walk in- so I’m thinking yellow or white light. Then in later paragraphs he says that they’re illuminating green, like what? Why didn’t you lead with that! lol. Because then even later he says they changed the color to yellow for the fight! He often states an object or ambiguous thing with no description and then completely changes the way you’re picturing it for the next 5 minutes when he finally describes it in more detail in later paragraphs. It does get a bit annoying.
"The first step in avoiding a trap is learning of its existence." Duke Leto Atreides, who never learned what the second step was.
I mean step 2 was "we gotta make desert power before the, fuck they came earlier than I anticipated", since Thufier was essentially predicting that the Baron and the Emperor weren't going to immediately attack, that they'd bide their time, forgetting that the Baron had 80 years of spice hoarding to get enough money to finance the war as soon as the Duke set foot on the planet.
@@aaronwishard7093 That was why Leto and Thufir arranged the attack on the Harkonnen spice reserves, hoping they would be able to bide their time just enough to secure their position on Arrakis. Also, I recall Thufir not believing the Emperor would directly reinforce the Harkonnen attack with his Sardaukar, since technically that risked someone like Kynes stepping up and saying it violated the great convention.
@@SuperNovaJinckUFO Having reread the book recently, I can assuredly say that you're correct in that the attack on the spice hoard was a very prominent move to keep the Harkonens at bay. If that's truly an idea that was on the characters line of thinking, that was never spoken aloud. Because when Paul and Leto are discussing "the trap", that entire conversation is
Paul: This is a terrible trap Dad.
Leto: I know, the first thing we gotta do is know that it's there. Because if we tip our hand that we know the Emperor and the Harkonens are plotting together. They'll just evade and come at us elsewhere.
Paul: So the Emperor will send the Sardukar?
Leto: Disgused in Harkonen uniforms, but the fanatical hoards none the less.
So if Thufier REALLY didn't think that the emperor would send his legions, he had a really shitty way of telling his Duke and heir to the title of Duke. Especially when in the previous scene we had just been given the information that Paul is a baby mentat himself.
Well the emperor was the bull and the duke turned his back. His other choice was exile.
Granted he was blindsided by Yueh's betrayal, something that was considered impossible until then.
Alt Schwift X shamelessly imitating the Alt Shift X style yet again
I don't know what's wrong with that guy . Outrageous!!
Stop whining, rather out play him by making a lore video about the Binding of Isaac. That would make him furious, I tell you!
You should convince him to make that damn Catelyn ACOK chapter happen
Self imitation is the sincerest form of self flattery.
He can't keep getting away with it!
"Somehow, Duncan Idaho returned..."
No one is ever really gone, ESPECIALLY Duncan!
Damn, so Star Wars stole that from dune as well 😂😂😂
this comment made my day
We know exactly how he returned.
@@martinsriber7760 and returned. And returned. And returned.
Lucilla's 205 sexual positions things sounds like a great copypasta
It’s a speech. There’s also another person the “Stranger” is questioning her knowledge on it....It’s amazing.
It's basically the "What the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch?" but about their varying levels of expertise in the sex sciences.
I can control genital temperature, I know the two hundred and five sexual positions, I have mastered the three hundred steps of orgasmic amplification!
That thing sound like Marine with 200 confirm kill
And Prince only got through 23 of them in a one night stand.
Holy shit. So this is what “the later books get weirder” means.
That's not even getting into the mind controlling dominatrixes.
@@merrittanimation7721 Well, yeah. Nothing weird about that.
Oh yeah. 4-6 layed the foundation for the weird shit that shows up in Warhammer and many other place.
@@merrittanimation7721 Copied by Terry Goodkind, copied by Robert Jordan,
@@migangelmart that's a much much older trope.
"We are friends of the stomach. We both like yogurt" will be the name of my Dune theme cook books if I ever write a cook book.
"Friends of the Stomach: Imperial Recipes so Good They Cause Beefswelling"
"Friends of the Stomach: A Fremen's Guide to Spice in the Kitchen"
Please have one of the things you can cook be a fish slow cooked with spice and mak n cheese powder called "the navigator".
Right, and you've never said anything like that to anyone? Your conversations must be super-dull.
You are highly cultured. Yes, probiotic!
There is something about authors when, no matter how serious their novels are, they often go "Well I can write whatever I want... Boobies haha"
The Aspect Fucking Emperor \m/
Posso chiedere come va interpretato il tuo nickname? Mi permetto di scrivere in Italiano perché mi pare di capire lo sia anche tu, che porti il marchio
@@giovas5176 Why tf did you assume that I know Italian?
@@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635 sorry, your nickname tricked me into thinking it. “Sono” means I am in Italian and so I was asking what your nick meant
@@giovas5176 It's a joke and a refference to Jojo's Bizzare Adventure's. The first opening song to be precise. There's a part that goes "Sono chi no Sadame!" and I added sodium chloride as a joke
"Tleilaxu sperm does not talk" actually had some meaning within the book. Something about genetic code that cannot be deciphered.
Does sound funny, though.
Herbert had every opportunity to write "Tleilaxu blood does not talk" instead, but he really wanted to get weird
@@blueshit199But weird is not wrong, and blood is not sperm.
@@jonA9411 the meaning remains, as in blood like bloodline
The Tleilaxu would squirt jiz into a receptacle to be spread amongst their society. Perhaps sperm was more appropriate to say.
@@jonA9411 Historically speaking, you have no idea how wrong you are.
this is a CERTIFIED BEEFSWELLING™ MOMENT
Leto II "Beef Swellington" Atreides, God Emperor, lover of yogurt, worm.
😂😂😂😂😂@@Moonhermit-
It's a Jaime setup. He's missing the arm, but the hand has been repurposrd as a jaunty necklace.
I was thinking a prosthetic replacement...Which would make it yet one MORE thing that "Star Wars" would have cribbed from the Duniverse.
I hate that I understood this reference. Am I a nerd? Am I?
I think the "woman orgasms when man climbs mountain" one is the dumbest. It's the one that most makes me go "the author is being stupid right now" as opposed to "this character is being stupid right now."
I've seen weirder fetishes. Some people are sexually into objects. Maybe she was into moutains.
There where a few moments in God emperor where I thought that but that was the worst moment
@@kingremus7544 Was another of them Leto's phantom boner?
Normally I would agree, but if it's Momoa's rippling back muscles... yeah I get it.
Bro, maybe you're the one climbing wrong.
Just saying
I remember in the opening of _God-emperor_ the first time we're introduced to Siona. Her and the survivors of her commando are running away from the palace with what we understand to be very important documents, hunted by genetically-engineered wolves. The second-to-last man alive falls and dies, the last one bravely decides to sacrifice himself to buy her time. It's tense , it's a great opener and a great introduction to our new protagonist and then the narrator tells us that when she runs Siona sends powerful sexual signals to the males who see her.
I bursted out laughing.
God Emperor of Dune might honestly be one of the horniest non smut books ive ever read. Emperor Leto is the biggest dick in the galaxy, and the whole book is just one long dick joke after another. At the end Leto's giant worm form plunges into a wet valley, crushing Hwi in the process, with Leto bursting out a bunch of his swimming sand trout to seed Arrakis with new life. I refuse to believe Frank Herbert didnt do all that on purpose.
@@hardgay7537 what the fuck, it all makes sense now
Well she was not really protagonist she is more like cause a reason to why certain characters exit in that place at certin time and I also very much hated that frank herpert wil return to hot headed stupid replies teenager she is what Paul would have been in generic and worse story
Would you marry or avoid Siona?
@@Katharsis540
Honestly, I get Siona was supposed to be the savior of the universe and that her children would free humanity from prescience…
But she’s also pretty unbearable. I’d leave the job of spreading her genes to someone else thank you very much.
The deleted chapters that appear in Road to Dune have some tamer ones. Paul interrupts one of Mohiam's speeches to say that he's a boy and she thinks something along the lines of, "Incredible perception; maybe he is the Kwisatz Haderach."
That sounds like some snarky conment she’d say to Jessica as a “this is the little shit you think is the messiah?”
Zen stories are a bit like this honestly
@@BenderSnake why is that so accurate
1:15 Missed opportunity to say "Duncan reaches the summit...just as Nayla reaches hers..."
To be honest that could turn from the dumbest line to one of the most weirdly best ones lol
After all, in for a penny...
Based Ki-Adi-Mundi poster
@@AstropelekiIn for some pennies in for the climb.
But what about the droid attack on the Wookiees?
Getting the 'Character = Horse' multiverse off to a good start
Tyrek Lannister is the actual protagonist in Dune confirmed
Horse furries in Dune.
@@MatthewChenault excuse you they're called bronies
This is some next level alt schwift x continuity
Ya know I think that ned stark actually warg’d a horse when he dies and it’s forshadowed earlier in the book because it says “he was still a horse”
Not quite as bad as these, but near the beginning of God Emperor where Siona is running away from the wolves for some reason the book takes a sentence to describe how hot her butt looks when she's running for her life. Thank you Herbert, that was definitely information that needed to be said in that moment.
bruh epic
if they make a movie about that book they better find an actress with a butt that lives up to that description
That is prime r/menwritingwomen material
Wonder why Tolkien has more fans than him. What a filthy deviant.
@@pegasusactua2985 first thing I thought too lol
The horniness of the Dune books is truly absurd.
It really is. Best part is its played completely straight. Honestly Herbert probably was just seeing how much goofy horny he could fit in a book series between all the philosophy and politics. That said, still a great series.
But have you read Heinlein?
hominess or hor-niness ? actually Corrino means Corn, Horn , horny boys.
the Lords of the Horns are the Claudians, Clothi (drusses, dross, Drusus).
horn is elk thus also Elkanites.
It's from a time when sex was thought of a cool, fun and important thing
It was the sixties
"Friends of the stomach" thing actually sounds real. Definitely stupid, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if some historic noble had attempted to wax philosophical in the same way on their deathbed. One of Leto II's few humanising moments.
It defenitevely sounds like the kind of bs a 3000yo wormgod would come up with when trying to bond with his much too young girlfriend.
It's not real. Hwi says that earlier to Leto as she describes her friendship with Moneo. She and Moneo both like yogurt.
@@margaretalbrecht4650 ooops
I always though that line was quite clever actually. Given that Hwi was created to charm Leto, she came up with a very original attempt at comedy, something that even an all knowing being would find amusing.
"Baby, we have gone through so much! We've had so much in common!"
"Uh huh, sure, like what my Emperor?"
"Uhhh..."
"...well?"
"We...both like...yogurt?"
You forget the swipe at Star Wars in Heretics: Someone who surrounds themselves with cheap plastic knockoffs of the real thing is called a "3-PO" because the names of the three most common plastics all start with the letters p and o.
Thats pretty clever though
That makes that line make so much more sense, thanks!
And then Poe Dameron, a pilot, plays Leto, who wanted to be a pilot.
I know a worse one! I believe it's from the sixth book: someone important (Tieg or Duncan) had just been killed and the reverend mothers didn't want to wait for a clone. So, one of them gives the order to salvage the brain with forbidden technology, just two words: "cyborg him!"
@Maximal Aside from Uncle Locutus, none of my loved ones have been cyborged.
Imiagine this in movie and Cyberpunk 2077 music just start
It was neither of them, it was her driver killed in line of duty; she later doesn't recognize him due to the alterations done to him and is horrified over herself
@@totalCoolerUsername Good help is so hard to find, too. :
I can't believe Vincent Adultman made it into one of the Dune books. All those hours at the business factory really paid off.
For all his transcendent philosophy “we are friends of the stomach, we both like yogurt.” Is so viscerally human and sounds a lot like a TikTok
I remember reading the two tleilaxu masters standing on each other's shoulders under a robe and remmeber being completley dumbfounded. I had to stop for a few hours to recompose myself after that completley rediculous picture in my head.
Guess the usher didn't believe they were adults when they wanted to go see an R rated movie.
I think that was the point. Heretics as much as I like it is pertty silly at times. But as is pointed out in the video, I think now that this is intentional on Herbert's part.
@@genmaicha.lapsang Maybe editor told him to spice it up
I just got to that part and didn’t realize how ridiculous it was until I just read this.
It’s really sinking in now
Well, the writers of the "Obi Wan" series took that idea very seriously.
After years of learning, I have primarily come to understand that the less I know about Dune the cooler it seems.
You are better off if you just read books one and two.
@@AlexanderPC123 I just finished book one and that is already full of cringe nonsense. It also has super cool world building and stuff, and the story did keep me interested. But holy shit, this book is OBSESSED with "strength" and "control" and it gets old real quick
@@Friek555 Then run its gets worse once they talk about "Paul's seed."
@@Friek555 you are kind of missing the point of why that obsession is supposed to be a bad thing.
@@AlexanderPC123 There's plenty to like in the other books. The 4th one is my favorite because of Leto's rants and philosophizing.
“DESERTO POOOOOOOOOOOOWAH!”
I love it when a normally serious series like Dune throws in a really goofy moment every now and then. Kinda like metal gear solid or something lol
Raiden trying to beat Leto to death with his fists.
Duncan: “Nice argument, worm, but why don’t you back it up with a source?”
Leto II: “My source is that I made it the fuck up.”
@@merrittanimation7721
Leto: “I saw it in a dream”
Paul: “Memes, the DNA of the soul”
*gets fucking shanked*
@@guccifer764 THE ONE!!!
"Adult beefswelling in his loins" got me to laugh very very hard, thank you.
How did you laugh again?
I overlooked the words “to laugh” when I first read this comment.
@@gaiusfulmen what kind of question is that
@@rikhenry9701the joke is "very very hard"
I actually used deepl with this one and I don't understand the translation either way
Some people say "I love you" but real ones say "We both like yogurt". 💕
You know the yogurt line still comes across as kind of sweet
I agree, it's very lighthearted, human and silly, in big contrast to Leto II character
Wait, the fact that you referenced sietchposting makes me SO happy
comment your favourite kind of sand
beefswelling sand
Tikka Masala sand
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
Sandslash
String in a man-kini sand ❤️🥳❤️
4:11 - on a scale from 1-10 how annoying is it to you that your editing style doesn't allow you to symmetrically feature all 10 quotes?
I like how he has to say “ADULT beefswelling” to negate from the fact that he’s describing a little kid’s woody
"We took this planet, with air power, and sea power...now we need desert power" literally made me laugh out loud in the theater.
They forgot to mention oasis power, and there is subtropical desert power, coastal desert power, rain shadow desert power and continental interior desert power. So many geographical distinctions, so many diffrent powers!
What an embarrassing oversight.
Duke Leto planning to summon Captain Planet or something like that
This line almost stopped me the first time I read dune, glad it didn’t, but seriously “desert power!”
And the last scene where Paul just says "desert power". It's so stupid I love it
I cringed so hard when Paul looked in the camera at the end and said "Desert power"
“Mood’s a thing for cattle or for making love. You fight when the necessity arises, no matter your mood.”
MOO-D'S A THING FOR CATTLE
I've always wondered how Patrick Stewart got that line out with a straight face.
Really makes you wonder what Gurney is doing to those cattle that is so dependent on mood, and whether it has anything to do with the loveplay.
AHAHAHAH, i guess i never realized that.
Written by Hideo Kojima
I don't see the problem with this quote tbh. You know what often happens to cattle? Slaughter. At least that's how I interpret it 🤷♂
2:50 Hasn't it occurred to you that he has one arm with a hand, and one hand growing directly out of the socket?
Whenever I frequent Mcdonalds, I tell all the fellows about me in line to be good, for we are also friends of the stomach.
but do you like yogurt though?
What is it about sand that provokes such cringe inducing lines of dialogue?
-A Star Wars fan 🙃
Because it’s coarse and rough and irritating- and it gets everywhere...
You try describing something as boring as sand that many times without resorting to some cringey garbage lol
Star Wars cribbed the whole desert planet, rebellion, space emperor shtick from Dune so it's inevitable one character or another gets all sandy
Somehow, Idaho returned
@@RogertheGS Be careful with that kind of talk, or you'll end up in the Spice Mines of who knows which property.
Friends with benefits is so outdated. Being friends of the stomach and eating yoghurt together is the real deal these days.
And more beneficial.😅
You wouldn't happen to have Lucilla's phone number, would you?
"I do not control the speed at witch lobsters die"
- Drake Parker, Ixian Mentat
Who the fuck is Drake Parker?
@@_Jay_Maker_ ua-cam.com/video/OVE6L53EPD8/v-deo.html
lmao. U made me cry with laughter.
doesn't come close to the dumbest line from GoT, "Bork Bork I am wolf boi hear me Bork Bork Bork"
Underrated scene for sure
What do you mean, that line is awesome.
*best* line from GoT
And yet, somehow, none of these come close to "Who has a better story"
Yogurt = high sparrow
I was going to comment this on the recent 6 books video, but I'll say it here instead:
There's a _lot_ of Herbert writing that feels like an old man pining after sex he can no longer have.
Given how things ended up with his wife, God bless them, this is both sad and unsurprising.
But, man. Beefswelling. Every time.
I mean..Frank and Bev were fairly freaky given the period they lived. I can absolutely see him using his writing as an outlet when her health began to wane.
Sometimes Dune feels like it's been mistranslated from an Alien lang- Oh my god that's exactly what's happening...
And the further the series gets, the further from our time it gets, so the sloppier the translation...
This comment made me realize that some of this stuff sounds weirdly close to fanfiction auto-translated from Chinese to English
That is actually VERY interesting. Because every chapter heading is started off as being some excerpt from somebody else's written work, like Irulan, or some other historian. Huh.
Ho. Lee. Shit.
There is the problem called mutation too. Youre reading genetic memory. How can you be sure about the truthfullness of the memory it contains?
Am I imagining things, or is there a scene where someone is undergoing the Spice Agony, and sees all the lives they’re remembering as SAUSAGES?
Yup lmao
"The thread no longer was stretching. It was pulling back, compressing. It became one small thing, a sausage of such exquisite pain that nothing else existed. The sense of being became vague, translucent... transparent.
“Do you see?” the voice of her mohalata guide came from far away.
I see things.
Not exactly seeing. A distant awareness of others. Other sausages. Other Memory encased in the skins of lost lives. They extended behind her in a train whose length she could not determine."
Chapterhouse: Dune, Chapter 35
I think thats from Children of Dune when Leto is moking
I always thought it was a fantastic description. Pulses of blended pain and experience representing past ego-memories. The important part is the skin that binds and separates the egos like events in time.
Is the sausage supposed to be a telomere?
Way to show that you don't understand figurative language.
Reading god emperor dune now and I’m now preparing myself for this yogurt line 😂😂
It actually has an explenation but you will have to decide yourself if it's valid or not xD
So what your saying is that the David Lynch version of Dune was accurate in that it's style matched the word choice of the later books? Gatcha, heh heh
Definitely. I, for one, wholeheartedly believe it. Only Lynch could pull off two guys stacked under a trench coat. What a pity.
@@wilgefortisohlin568 The world missed out on David Lynch's God Emperor of Dune. Just imagine, an animatronic Leto II with a narration about him really wanting bone a lady 3000 years younger than him with his nonexistent penis. He could pull it off.
All of Villeneuve's additions were stupid, but all of Lynch's additions were brilliant and inspired, especially the Atreides Pug.
@@billvolk4236 I love to split the difference between both versions. Both offer up great filmmaking and story choices.
@@CleverGirlAAH I'll admit that he did a better job than Lynch of showing certain things rather than telling (the narrator having to tell us that Paul and Chani are in love was great accidental comedy) and of conveying subtext (like that Paul is not a monomythic hero but a sinister imitation of one.)
The two hands thing is the copy editor's fault, not Frank's. The rest are his.
2:50 Third option could be he somehow lost the arm, and only the arm. He just has a disconnected floating hand now.
rayman looking ass commander lmao
Lol, that's what I thought, expected to see a floating hand, was disappoint.
If he finds it notable that Tleilaxu sperm doesn't talk, does that mean other types of sperm does talk?
Yes! It does. Hes referring to how the Tleilaxu have an unreadable genetic code where as everyones else can have their genes traced by heritage and scanned for traits like prescient ability.
@@JTheTeach Or, they're all really quietly going "wheeeeeeee!"
@@LordBilliam Or that, yeah
The best follow-up to the previous video. Now I know why it was created - to bring us the needed context and ground-work for this masterpiece of analysis.
Being able to remember all those past lifetimes does seem to mess with one's sanity, even if they don't become abomination.
Leto II WAS abomination, but he kept it almost totally secret, rarely speaking of it.
the line does sound silly but at the same time, Duncan, what a gigachad
Please do a GRRM vs Herbert Part 2 soon. I've been waiting for ages lol.
Do the same for ASOIAF... ''The sight of their arousal was arousing'' comes to mind
A song of me butt
Lucilla, obviously, will be a fan favorite character, if we ever get a Heretic and Chapterhouse adaptation
dune sietchposting has made Beefswelling their brand
BIFAR
I love that we can see this in the movie with the "Lisan Al-Gaib" meme
I don't know how beefswelling wasn't the number one line. I've been Sir Beef Swellington in online games my whole life. Thanks Herbert!
"I've been Sir Beef Swellington in online games my whole life." Is somehow an even funnier sentence than the one that originated it.
Man this guys can mimic even Alt Shift X’s voice :0
I love the Dune books but yeah there is some *WEIRD HORNY* stuff in there. I really love Heretics but fully acknowledge how silly some of it is.
But the last 3 books really paved the way for the kind of darkly silly sci-fi that we see in Warhammer, Star wars, ect.
There is a certain humor to the books. The Hounoured Matres are kind of funny in a dark and totally outragious way.
Don't be too hard with my little beloved Lucilla 😢😢!!
She had her flaws but I really loved her for her bravery and her human side, and the great suffering she was hiding 😢😢 just as her cousin Odrade (because of a true problem in my life once, I really cried of desesperation when their lifes were been taken (yes we all have our uncontrollables and irrationals traumas)😢😢 !!
I can even defend Lucilla on thoses lines
- For the two tleilaxu masters in a coat : she didn't see but heard a familiar voice "The bulky figure spoke in a piping voice, the accent chillingly familiar to Lucilla" (heretics of Dune), so I think Lucilla only made a deduction, especially when Burzmali told her "Couldn't be," ... "Too tall.", maybe a too hasty deduction, but her situation was dangerous, she was nervous (even if later she controlled herself enough to save situation with Murbella after all, (thank you my Lucilla one of my heroin despite everything ❤❤). The reason why whe should have two tlelaxu masters, "one on the shoulders of the other" is unclear, yes this is weird, but I'm thinking why not, I can accept many things of that weird people, the tleilaxu and especially their masters, and I can accept many things of that weird planet gammu, of that weird city Ysai, and of that weird scattering.
Aaahhh a little thing, Ysai, that very poor city very dangerous and even really, I mean really evil in some way (It's just me ? or this is the american ultraliberal vision ?)
- For Lucilla talking about her sexual abilities, yes 205 positions, 300 ...amplification... are a nosense but hey, we are in fiction 🤣🤣, and is that really more stupid than being prescient or to become a worm like Leto II 🤣🤣 ? Yes Lucilla is boasting a little but I laugh of that, I mean, Lucilla is saying, You think I'm a noob Sirafa, or you think my abilities are a mere agility ? Look at what I can make ! 🤣🤣 And after that Sirafa is like uh ... yes ... yes... it's impressive, I didn't really know, 🤣🤣 and she says to burzmali "Why didn't you warn me?" and he tells her "I did" 🤣🤣
-For "She waved a hand at his stiffly upcocked penis"
"I can see that Skar does not object to your preparations
for this venture," Sirafa said. She waved a hand at his stiffly upcocked penis." (Heretics of Dune)
Sorry but Sirafa did it, not Lucilla.
- Lucilla with the spider Queen. Yes she knows she's gonna die my poor little one 😢😢, so doesn't matter of what she can think about ? She accomplished her mission my poor Lucilla and saved memories of Lampadas at least, let her be lost in her memory, even for simples and ingsinifiants things as garlic and it imaginary power against werewolfes ! 🤣 I don't think Lucilla really believes garlic is efficient against werewolfes or the werewolfes really exist. Sometimes, we talk about werewolfes, Unicorns, about Santa claus even, seriously, as if they exist !! Even if we know all of this is a joke for our children !! 🤣🤣
Rest in peace my courageous Lucilla who never once flinched from your duties, rest in peace with miles teg, your love your never had, and with your symbolic mother or big sister Odrade ❤❤ !!
You are really like werewolfes, unicorns or santa claus for me !!! Both of you !!!🤣🤣 You don't exist at all, but sometimes fiction is a such symbol, with such memories !!!❤❤❤
I thought the d-wolves and laza-tigers and chair dogs were the most ridiculous things. Or maybe when Paul reminisces that Hitler was bad (book 2?)
Also if I remember correctly Duncan or someone didn't know what the Holocaust was despite there being several in the Dune Universe and Hitler is still a known historical figure.
@@akrybion Hitler is not a known historical figure. Many people in the Dune universe don't even believe the Earth really existed. Paul only knows about Hitler for his past memories.
@@akrybion Stupid sexy Duncan...
@@akrybionKnown to historians. It takes place further in the future than the oldest recorded history is old, and a lot of records were lost.
Yea, Paul says that Hitler was bad, he only killed a couple dozen million people, Paul says that he had killed more than anyone in history - but that Hitler must have said the same thing.
And I allso love when Paul did this sick Ninja stunt where he kicked one of the Harkonen soldiers so hard in the chests that he destroys the soldier's heart like what? How on earth did he manage to do that?
That's normal weirding way shit. If they can move their whole bodies faster than eye can see, the amount of physicial force they can generate must be massive.
That almost happen irl to Stallone on Rocky IV when he told Dolph Lundgren to punch for real. Stallone almost had a heart attack from being punched in the chest. Stalonne kept the shot in iirc
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan that's insame!
heart plugs that's how
He was named Czigo
At least it wasn't "I hate yogurt. It's creamy, gooey, irritating, and it gets everywhere"
Nah, “We are friends of the stomach. We both like yogurt.” goes hard without context. Such a simple premise to bind two souls, because what more do we truly need?
Every day for the rest of my life I’m going to struggle to admit to myself these are real
I kinda like the garlic one. I tend to do fact-dropping when I'm stressed. No doubt that if I was trying to keep my calm knowing I'm eating my last meal, I would focus on any "stupid" detail about the food.
The Orgasm climbing is really a wtf one.
I read the the "beefswelling" line many decades ago and it was so horrific that I thought of it immediately when I saw that this video was about the ten dumbest lines. I wasn't all that surprised that it was actually included.
The most horniest lines in Dune history
Brian Herbert needed to take a cold shower before sitting down to write the final books.
I just had a shocking epiphany about #9. (The one with Nayla)
Nayla's big moment is not caused merely by watching Duncan climb a cliff. It's due to her weird religious conditioning called "Siaynoq", established earlier in the book. All of Leto's Fish Speakers have been conditioned towards arousal, and it's a sort psycho-sexual release valve that they experience like a "limit break" effect in the presence of their God Emperor. Duncan essentially out-masculines Nayla's God and she sexually imprints upon him in that moment...
Weird? Yes, I know, that's just Dune; but it gets weirder.
Watch the openining of 'Highlander II: The Quickening" (1991), which is the sequel to 'Highlander' (1986). Highlander II establishes that the dueling Immortals were actually alien warriors from the two-mooned desert planet Zeist, banished to Earth after a failed rebellion against the evil General Katana (Again, I swear I'm not making this up.) Conner and Ramírez perform a Water of Life(ish) ceremony to seal their bond before being sent to Earth swordfight across centuries for "The Prize" through an electro-orgasmic phenomenon called "The Quickening."
There's also a convoluted plot about an energy shield around Earth to replace the Ozone, and Virginia "Princess Irulan" Madsen is in this, but that's not important.
Conner Macleod and Juan Sánchez-Villalobos Ramírez's relationship mirrors that of Duncan Idaho and Miles Teg in both 'Heretics' and 'Chapterhouse: Dune'. (1984 & 1985, respectively.)
By 1992 we have 'Highlander: The Series" which features a new Highlander named "Duncan".
If we assume that 'Highlander' is borrowing many of its core concepts from those later 'Dune' books (namely, a period-hopping space samurai named Duncan), it means that the electrical "Quickening" which unlocks lifetimes of experience is roughly analagous to Nayla's spiritual orgasm in 'God Emperor of Dune'. (1980)
Also note that 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' (1989) has Captain Kirk scaling El Capitan before traveling to the two-mooned desert planet Nimbus III, which is controlled by fanatics on a quest to find God. Kirk also wrestles a furry cat woman at some point, who is not unlike the Futars described in 'Chapterhouse: Dune' (1985). Pretty sure that 'Star Trek V' is the one directed by William Shatner too...
If Jason Mamoa was climbing up a cliff, I would get a sudden beef swelling in my loins too.
before watching this video i hope nayla getting off on duncan's rock climbing skills is on here somewhere
edit: thank you, that really caught me out of left field when i read it the first time lol
I guess Herbert really wanted to hammer home that Duncan is the sexiest man in the universe
Herbert was secretly gay.
Great video, this calls for more Herbert content! whens the 2nd stream of GRRM vs Herbert?
I second that question, GRRM Vs Herbert is a great one
And I third that
I fourth that motion.
"I can control my genital temperature, I master five hundred sexual positions ", she said and waved her hand at his fat pink mast.
Lucilla was shitposting before it was cool. True pioneer.
“We shall be worm and wife.” God Emperor.
I can’t believe you missed this one.
I kind of love that line.
Leto knows exactly what he is, and he uses that humor applicably.
I know Artbreeder faces when I see them, it's actually a great resource for this channel, wish I'd thought of it and recommended it sooner!
This is why every author needs an editor, not just to check spelling and grammar, but to be a close enough friend and associate to be able to say "Holy shit, you're shut-in is showing badly right here..."
Got me with Sting at the end. Well played.
"Sunset found her squatting in the grass groaning..."
The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
Imagine you being a god empower half sand worm destruction monster and your favourite food is yogurt
"I just pretend that the characters are batshit insane, which they probably are"
You know how Warhammer 40k went from wacky parodic sci-fi to a mostly serious tone with wacky hijinks shoved to the background?
Dune is the opposite of that
It's also important to see the comparisons with Ninja Turtles, Ultraviolet, The Emoji Movie and Boob Robot
To clarify Leto is almost certainly the one who say the yogurt line not Hwi. Hwi speaks frist “is Monroe your friend, too?” Lato’s replies “We are are friends of the stomach. We both like yogurt” it doesn’t explicitly say who’s responding, but otherwise she’d be responding to her own question.
I'm stunned the beefswelling scene wasn't number one.
The last line of your script then seeing Sting in his pants was hilarious, cheers for the laugh!
Friends of the Stomach sounds like a fun cult.
Garlic is anti-Vampire, not anti-Werewolf. Thank God he wrote Sci-fi and not fantasy, that would be a real mess...
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A HORSE?! I thought I was on the "Glidus" channel for a second there.
"Somehow Duncan Idaho returned"
GRRM definitely was inspired by the "How would you like to be a horse" for Tyrek Lannister
In context, these lines are not as weird as you may think, and certainly not dumb as the video title asserts.
I believe many of these are Herbert's attempts at humor or levity in an otherwise very serious novel. In God Emperor for example, Leto II makes a lot of jokes, and is actually playful, relatively speaking, but it's hard for the reader to take it as such, amidst all the heavy heady philosophy... and especially if the reader doesn't understand what is being said half of the time.
I don't remember the context from Heretics and Chapterhouse... perhaps it's time for a re-read.
Schwift is the clearly superior UA-cam channel no rambling here
2:53 I’ve noticed some inconsistencies like this when reading dune. I don’t know if it’s just an author thing, but when reading about Paul and his first Fremen fight, FH describes “glowlights” illuminating the area when they first walk in- so I’m thinking yellow or white light. Then in later paragraphs he says that they’re illuminating green, like what? Why didn’t you lead with that! lol. Because then even later he says they changed the color to yellow for the fight!
He often states an object or ambiguous thing with no description and then completely changes the way you’re picturing it for the next 5 minutes when he finally describes it in more detail in later paragraphs. It does get a bit annoying.
i remember the adult beefswelling and im that far into the video and shocked that it isn't #1
Thumbnail had me crying 😭 thank you for making this
Wait, werewovles exist in the Dune universe? And they dislike garlic?
They might as well, what with what the Tleilaxu get up to. But not canonically.
Cat people, however, do.
Piter de Vries is first described as a slender short man. Later in Dune he is described as “tall, though slender”