Thanks for the look. As you say, I think this is for people who collect these sets; that isn't me, so I won't start my "Morgan's Fault" tool cart just yet.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn Oh, he has pried open my wallet a number of times. I must say though, I always ended up with a good tool. My hand tools are much improved since last year.
Klein really seems to be making a play to expand their market share with all the new releases lately. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start expanding their power tool lineup in the next couple years too. 👍
Would love to see how you use these cases in your day to day, also how they interact with Milwaukee Packout, how they fit in organizers. Keep up the Great Reviews!
I got just for an alternative to the 11 in 1 ratcheting screwdriver. Didn’t really have a need just a want lol.I do have the PB Swiss. The quality is a little better than the Klein but the bit locking and back drag trumps the PB Swiss. It’s my favorite T-handle for the money at the moment. Especially with the Mod box.Good review!
@@MattHmm-rq6dnI’ve tried that one and the one I got would bind as you turned the ratcheting in one section like it was out of round? I sent it back and I never tried another. I hear it’s excellent I think I just got a lemon?
Mine works flawlessly wera t handle that is. It takes a breath to move that action it's heads about cheap ratcheting mechanisms including most of weras screwdriver ratcheting mechanisms. To be fair that did come out later than the other screwdrivers.
That's a nice tool. Ratcheting actions sounds ok, as if it was higher-grade tool. One thing I find odd - that solid orange plastic makes it look even cheaper than original transparent yellow one. But it's probably my bias towards this kind of details. Price is also acceptable, especially compared to other brands (in the USA Wera T-handle ratcheting smaller sets are around $90).
If you don't care about the bits at least here it's half the price. I'm glad someone else noticed it dosnt sound amazing and how cheap it looks. It fits the purpose like he said for someone in that system.
Looks quite good actually. Wonder how long it will be until we see the 3D printers making up inserts for the Klein modbox the way they are for Milwaukee packout. I have a ratcheting t-handle set from Gedore, which switches between t-handle and screwdriver as well as the t-handle set from Wera.
@MORGANSMaintenance no worries lol of course I haven't dove into those pouches yet but curious now for that price. Just want the subscribers to see that good deal as well have a good one brother ! Keep up that content's it's good man your killing it'
No mention of backdrag or how much 'play' there is when its in the lock position, both of which I'd have thought were very important factors on a tool like this.
@@aussiehardwood6196 see my other answer, not that type of reviewer. I’m not a ratcheting aficionado. Don’t particularly like ratcheting screwdrivers… but a T handle makes sense.
I've used it and it's the same mechanism as the racheting screwdriver with the nice soft touch finish. The reason I never bought it was because I use long hex bits (3 to 6in) in my t handles and there is slop because it's just a magnet unless you use c6? Bits that don't have the impact ball detent. That's why many other options that lock a fair amount of the shaft in it for no wobble. I went wera because of that with the wrap adapter.
I really just want the bits...and with the full set of SAE allen keys. I'm about tired of multiplying mod boxes. I work out of a tool BAG, not a tool BOX. I think I will move everything to zip bags.
If the ratchet gear tooth count isnt mentioned of the packet marketing, why not just count the clicks of a half or quarter turn then multiply by 4. So 18 clicks measured in a quarter turn or 36 in half turn would be 72T.
@@aussiehardwood6196 I maybe could have, but I’m not a “dig into the specifics” tool person/reviewer. It’s a T handle, it ratchets, it’s in a Modbox is why I bought it. I feel like someone is not buying this set for the tooth count. They are buying it if they are in Modbox, so the count wouldn’t matter. Someone found it was 45 I believe.
It would be nice to have only hex with more sizes. I have a full t handle set, but it would be better to have a more compact and contained set like this.
@@jeffreyesguitar5129 I normally use my Railer set with a bit holder, but occasionally you need a longer bit on the smaller sizes to fit deep in places
I own the dewalt and it makes a gear flat plac furniture assembly kit. The actual t handle is very decent thr best budget buy in my opinion. The case is huge and unweildy to actual carry. The t handle i suggest is the wera 416 RA that thing is pb swiss level of smooth with a locking bit holder. That would also fit in that case as well 🤔. The actual t handle in thay set sounded chunky from the video and looks kinda plastic and cheap. I went to lowes this morning and it dosent look any better sadly in person. Anyone who really like t handles that dewalt is decent and the wera is a dream to use (yes i know the wera is 50 bucks). You could get the wera and some railer 6in bits for the price of pb swiss or just reuse some bits you all know we have tons of and get the wera and make your own kit. Just some alternatives before you drink the lego klein kool aid why not have the best tool not one that just matches a set.
Yeah...I have the Wera ratcheting T handle, and while I really like it, I don't find myself reaching for it frequently. It sounds like it is better made than this, so I think this is a pass for me unless I find it on clearance down the road.
@@nachoisme I had looked at a Fix It Stick at one time. I think it’s for pew pews.. but I’m not sure what how it works. I’m curious if anyone else throws their 2 cents in
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have seen those but never used them. The ones I have seen are about 5 ft lbs. and I would want something that could handle a little more beef....like a half inch luch for mains on a panel. I don't think I have ever seen one that uses a hex adapter like a digital one that usually uses 3/8ths or 1/2 for normal sockets. If I could find one that is hex I would snap this kit up in a heartbeat. I suppose I could get an adapter to go from hex to 3/8ths square and another to go back from 3/8ths square to hex to use this set but thats a lot of pieces to keep track of...would be nice to find a hex to hex torque adapter so I could put that in the t-handle then the bit I would need.
@@MORGANSMaintenance ....and I think the fix it sticks and similar just 'break' at the torque set like a normal torque wrench would do. Hear a pop and you are done....I know they make some for lug nuts for cars. No idea if they work well though
Interesting, I'd like to just buy the T handle by itself. None of the bits included in the set aren't anything I already and have a good solution for. I wish they'd make more trade specific kits, for example as an electrician I'd love to have a T handle set with long hex key sockets that go up to 1/2", basically thier electricians folding hex key tool but on a better tool you can use for other things too.
@@ProxyFinal I can’t even remember where I said this one was made… Klein has been diversifying where they make tools 😂 I’m sure it’s made in the same place as other stuff
Nothing is Free Shipping. I find the same items on other websites, usually cheaper, then you add the shopping, comes out to the same price as the free shipping sites
@@mrazt3ca1 that’s the case on certain sites, but I usually do Amazon, or pick up at the store at Home Depot and Lowe’s. They are generally the same price as the others
Clever idea about the extra handle storage. My 11-to-1, its shafts, and a few others I'll add to it could use a landing place that's not a full size case. Saw it online recently but did not realize it's a ratchet. That appeals to me now, because repositioning your hand on a static t-handle is slower than on a shaft. Oh well, I'm sure I've blown $50 on worse things. My wife doesn't yet know about my lone KNECT Starter box due to a pile of Packouts now flooding our place. I understand these little mod boxes are all targeting various niche users but as a generalist I'd like to see them separate out the cores: One mod box for KNECT handles, another for bits (they already have one like that for standard bits), another for sockets ... and if anyone wanted a complete KNECT setup maybe sell a full size case for people into their bigger stack box system.
@@thenexthobby I agree on the box setups… each one is treated like it’s the only one you are going to buy. They could lower the prices some too if they didn’t put a ratchet in each one
Thanks for the look. As you say, I think this is for people who collect these sets; that isn't me, so I won't start my "Morgan's Fault" tool cart just yet.
@@OnusBones 👍👍.. don’t go down the Modbox Rabbit Hole if you don’t have too 😂
When in doubt it's Morgan's fault. He was even noted on a doc from last best tools video the other day!
At what point is it a mole or groundhog hole if it runs deep enough a rabbit wouldn't touch?
@@MattHmm-rq6dn Oh, he has pried open my wallet a number of times. I must say though, I always ended up with a good tool. My hand tools are much improved since last year.
I have it on order and can't wait until it arrives to try it out. Looking forward to trying it out.
@@milwaukee_69 👍👍.. hope you like it.
T handles have been very popular in the motorcycle field for years. great tool!
I haven’t used one a lot other than the pieces that come with Allen Wrenches, but I had been eyeballing some other ones
Klein really seems to be making a play to expand their market share with all the new releases lately. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start expanding their power tool lineup in the next couple years too. 👍
@@k1_w3 would be interesting to see 👍
Because they have China making everything
They do have some power tools already. I believe they are just rebrands though...I haven't really looked at them much but I have seen them
@ I’ve seen some that take Dewalt batteries. Not in person, but around the internet
No way! I had seen this on my Amazon page. I will probably pick up this kit eventually.
@@mozzberg590 I had seen it on ACME and other places that charge for shipping. I think it just hit Amazon
Would love to see how you use these cases in your day to day, also how they interact with Milwaukee Packout, how they fit in organizers. Keep up the Great Reviews!
@@toolswithtim 👍👍… right now they are all in a drawer in my truck, but if I get many more they may have to go in a Packout Box 😂
Interact with packout they are tools not aliens
They're just very well designs cases
I got just for an alternative to the 11 in 1 ratcheting screwdriver. Didn’t really have a need just a want lol.I do have the PB Swiss. The quality is a little better than the Klein but the bit locking and back drag trumps the PB Swiss. It’s my favorite T-handle for the money at the moment. Especially with the Mod box.Good review!
@@Toolsnstufff 👍👍. I like it
You should the wera 416 RA T-Handle that has the locking action you want. The racheting action on it is ridiculously smooth.
@@MattHmm-rq6dnI’ve tried that one and the one I got would bind as you turned the ratcheting in one section like it was out of round? I sent it back and I never tried another. I hear it’s excellent I think I just got a lemon?
Mine works flawlessly wera t handle that is. It takes a breath to move that action it's heads about cheap ratcheting mechanisms including most of weras screwdriver ratcheting mechanisms. To be fair that did come out later than the other screwdrivers.
Thanks I'd seen that on the "new products" section and was hoping you'd pick it up.
@@phillipmoody710 👍👍
That's a nice tool. Ratcheting actions sounds ok, as if it was higher-grade tool.
One thing I find odd - that solid orange plastic makes it look even cheaper than original transparent yellow one. But it's probably my bias towards this kind of details.
Price is also acceptable, especially compared to other brands (in the USA Wera T-handle ratcheting smaller sets are around $90).
If you don't care about the bits at least here it's half the price. I'm glad someone else noticed it dosnt sound amazing and how cheap it looks. It fits the purpose like he said for someone in that system.
@@Stefan_Kawalec yeah I’m not a fan of the Bright Orange Plastic either. I wish the Modbox cases were gray and clear
Thanks again Joey!!
@@leonardpaciora5039 you are welcome my friend 👍👍
Looks quite good actually. Wonder how long it will be until we see the 3D printers making up inserts for the Klein modbox the way they are for Milwaukee packout. I have a ratcheting t-handle set from Gedore, which switches between t-handle and screwdriver as well as the t-handle set from Wera.
@@three-phase562 will be interesting to see. You can gut a box pretty easy, so someone should be able to print entire replacements
Hey Morgan did you see the klein modbox sale going on at Lowe's tool pouches are 50% off
@@goatroper101101 I hadn’t ventured that far down in my Lowe’s… it’s in a whole nother area 😂
I’m going tomorrow, I will see. Appreciate it 👍
@MORGANSMaintenance no worries lol of course I haven't dove into those pouches yet but curious now for that price. Just want the subscribers to see that good deal as well have a good one brother ! Keep up that content's it's good man your killing it'
Where can i get one of those tumbler drink that shaped like the screwdriver?
@@rolandburket1262 eBay is the only place I’ve seen them
No mention of backdrag or how much 'play' there is when its in the lock position, both of which I'd have thought were very important factors on a tool like this.
@@aussiehardwood6196 see my other answer, not that type of reviewer. I’m not a ratcheting aficionado. Don’t particularly like ratcheting screwdrivers… but a T handle makes sense.
I’d like to have a set of ball end Allen bits metric/ sae for the ratcheting t handle
@@miked4024 👍👍.. you can put any bit in it you want. I have some ball end that I put in a locking bit holder
Do they sell the T-handle separate? Is it Klein's goal to drain all of us tool people Great products as usual ... Thx
@@Eddy63 not yet.. I wonder if they will… but I doubt it
Do you have the pbswiss T-handle? Been eyeing that one up for awhile
I've used it and it's the same mechanism as the racheting screwdriver with the nice soft touch finish. The reason I never bought it was because I use long hex bits (3 to 6in) in my t handles and there is slop because it's just a magnet unless you use c6? Bits that don't have the impact ball detent. That's why many other options that lock a fair amount of the shaft in it for no wobble. I went wera because of that with the wrap adapter.
@@phillipgood680 I don’t have it
I really just want the bits...and with the full set of SAE allen keys. I'm about tired of multiplying mod boxes. I work out of a tool BAG, not a tool BOX. I think I will move everything to zip bags.
Yeah if you carry all your stuff with you it’s a bit much. I have mine in my truck for the times I need the more specific stuff
If the ratchet gear tooth count isnt mentioned of the packet marketing, why not just count the clicks of a half or quarter turn then multiply by 4. So 18 clicks measured in a quarter turn or 36 in half turn would be 72T.
@@aussiehardwood6196 I maybe could have, but I’m not a “dig into the specifics” tool person/reviewer. It’s a T handle, it ratchets, it’s in a Modbox is why I bought it. I feel like someone is not buying this set for the tooth count. They are buying it if they are in Modbox, so the count wouldn’t matter. Someone found it was 45 I believe.
I wish they had Allens in there, I’m an electrician and I use Allens on panel lugs all the time
That’s what all the hex sizes are. Thats what they really made this set for if you look at the pictures in the listings
It would be nice to have only hex with more sizes. I have a full t handle set, but it would be better to have a more compact and contained set like this.
@@jeffreyesguitar5129 I normally use my Railer set with a bit holder, but occasionally you need a longer bit on the smaller sizes to fit deep in places
Id be curious to see how this compares to the Wera Racheting T, this kit is definitely better value 😅
@@toolswithtim I don’t have it, Matt Hmm has been saying he really likes it
Its a very fine rachet much less crunchy that that klein but like he said it's the mod box tax
@MattHmm-rq6dn good to know!
Bare mod box cases or options custom organizers would be nifty.
I agree.. and I hope the 3D printing people get involved
I own the dewalt and it makes a gear flat plac furniture assembly kit. The actual t handle is very decent thr best budget buy in my opinion. The case is huge and unweildy to actual carry. The t handle i suggest is the wera 416 RA that thing is pb swiss level of smooth with a locking bit holder. That would also fit in that case as well 🤔. The actual t handle in thay set sounded chunky from the video and looks kinda plastic and cheap. I went to lowes this morning and it dosent look any better sadly in person. Anyone who really like t handles that dewalt is decent and the wera is a dream to use (yes i know the wera is 50 bucks). You could get the wera and some railer 6in bits for the price of pb swiss or just reuse some bits you all know we have tons of and get the wera and make your own kit. Just some alternatives before you drink the lego klein kool aid why not have the best tool not one that just matches a set.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn I pondered on getting the WERA a couple of times.. and the PB Swiss
Tried both id like the locking nature of wera with the soft handle of pb swiss can't have both so it's wera!
Yeah...I have the Wera ratcheting T handle, and while I really like it, I don't find myself reaching for it frequently. It sounds like it is better made than this, so I think this is a pass for me unless I find it on clearance down the road.
But I really appreciate you showing it to us. Saving me money.
@@macbergson 👍👍
It’s hard to beat my Wera ratcheting t-handle!
👍👍 I had looked at that one too
Anyone know a good torque adapter (hex) that I could use this set with torque ratings on lugs?
Maybe 10ft lbs - 60 or so
@@nachoisme I had looked at a Fix It Stick at one time. I think it’s for pew pews.. but I’m not sure what how it works. I’m curious if anyone else throws their 2 cents in
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have seen those but never used them. The ones I have seen are about 5 ft lbs. and I would want something that could handle a little more beef....like a half inch luch for mains on a panel. I don't think I have ever seen one that uses a hex adapter like a digital one that usually uses 3/8ths or 1/2 for normal sockets. If I could find one that is hex I would snap this kit up in a heartbeat.
I suppose I could get an adapter to go from hex to 3/8ths square and another to go back from 3/8ths square to hex to use this set but thats a lot of pieces to keep track of...would be nice to find a hex to hex torque adapter so I could put that in the t-handle then the bit I would need.
@@MORGANSMaintenance ....and I think the fix it sticks and similar just 'break' at the torque set like a normal torque wrench would do. Hear a pop and you are done....I know they make some for lug nuts for cars. No idea if they work well though
@@nachoisme if you find something let me know
Interesting, I'd like to just buy the T handle by itself. None of the bits included in the set aren't anything I already and have a good solution for. I wish they'd make more trade specific kits, for example as an electrician I'd love to have a T handle set with long hex key sockets that go up to 1/2", basically thier electricians folding hex key tool but on a better tool you can use for other things too.
@@onikwa most of the bits on these are the hex keys… all the 4” and 6”
Would love the option of purchasing just the "T-HANDLE" all by itself.
There's tons of high quality t handles available from great high end brands at that point.
Several people are saying… maybe they will listen 🤷♂️
Pretty cool…..
@@michaelthompson7570 Won’t use it all the time, but every now and then will be nice 👍
That ratchet looks like those Taiwanese made tools like stahwille, bahco, tone, carvan, etc.
@@ProxyFinal I can’t even remember where I said this one was made… Klein has been diversifying where they make tools 😂
I’m sure it’s made in the same place as other stuff
@@MORGANSMaintenance a lot of these brands outsource them to a company in Taiwan that specializes in hand tools, especially ratchets.
@ 👍👍
Wish it was a torque set.
👍👍 would be nice
Nothing is Free Shipping.
I find the same items on other websites, usually cheaper, then you add the shopping, comes out to the same price as the free shipping sites
@@mrazt3ca1 that’s the case on certain sites, but I usually do Amazon, or pick up at the store at Home Depot and Lowe’s. They are generally the same price as the others
Holy shit they have sooooo much stuff 😂
Flood the market like they always do at lowes with products and rebrands!
That they do 😂
Man, I hope down the road they just sell the T handle…
@@brianhall9019 they should… it will probably be $45.99 😂
It’s like a 10 tooth rather mechanism lol
@@krisnrg I have no idea what it is 😂.. I’m not a ratchet driver offecianado. It ratchets is all i know
45 Tooth for the Klein,24 tooth for the PB Swiss and 80 tooth for the Wera
@ 👍👍
Clever idea about the extra handle storage. My 11-to-1, its shafts, and a few others I'll add to it could use a landing place that's not a full size case.
Saw it online recently but did not realize it's a ratchet. That appeals to me now, because repositioning your hand on a static t-handle is slower than on a shaft. Oh well, I'm sure I've blown $50 on worse things. My wife doesn't yet know about my lone KNECT Starter box due to a pile of Packouts now flooding our place.
I understand these little mod boxes are all targeting various niche users but as a generalist I'd like to see them separate out the cores: One mod box for KNECT handles, another for bits (they already have one like that for standard bits), another for sockets ... and if anyone wanted a complete KNECT setup maybe sell a full size case for people into their bigger stack box system.
@@thenexthobby I agree on the box setups… each one is treated like it’s the only one you are going to buy. They could lower the prices some too if they didn’t put a ratchet in each one