Leopard 2, PZ 2000, Gepard: How Effective are German Weapons in Ukraine’s War Against Russia?
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2024
- Since the start of full-scale war in Ukraine, Germany became the second-biggest aid donor to Ukraine. Besides providing shelter for over one million Ukrainian refugees, Germany has delivered over 20 billion euros in financial or military aid packages. Let's hear how German weapons help Ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield.
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The Gepard story is incredible - it was retired from the German Bundeswehr years ago, and now Germany realises that having close- to medium range AA is actually more important than ever, also because of drones. Expensive, long range systems like Patriot alone won’t do the job. New AA systems will be procured (Rheinmetall Skyranger?), but this takes times and the Gepard had filled that exact role as it shows in Ukraine.
they have been working on the mantis system for a while, but so far no announcements on new SPAAG.
@@MeaNGiantsMantis is basically Skynex and it already saw action in Mali from 2018 on. Skyranger 30 or 35 Turret on Boxer GTK Chassis will probably be the Gepard successor...
Artur Rehi reports SKYNEX has been delivered, but only 1x system initially.
@@artmcteagleyea because we don't have more
didnt know they used it in mali on a boxer, good to hear@@derauditor5748
Germany delivers outstanding help to Ukraine today. We all know that if it´s made in Germany, it´s probably among the best in the world. ❤ from Sweden.
The thing is, german weapon systems are made of good quality but they need a lot of work. Germany itself can't run a lot of it's equipment because they have no spare parts. Thats a shame... As a country, you should do everything to keep your advanced technology running! But nice to see that the stuff germany provided does it's job quite well in ukraine
@@basti94 i agree with u its a shame that we demilitise alot here but thats cuz most germans espacaly the leading ppl fear to redo the mistakes of ww2 also where ourself surroundet by friendly nations so leaders think why do we need a military so alot of cuts where done but on the spare parts thing lets just say dont belive evrything u hear in the radio or news germany is not as bad as the news make it out to be tho i admit we are also not good in that regard cuz most our money goes to other nations
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true, if you can afford the money and training. however, the Swedish arms industry is quite remarkable for a country with a similar population as Greece
@@basti94because German politicians are greedy and corrupt
Pzh 2000 & Leopard 2 - one of the best systems you can have in your battlefield.
[Pzh2000] and probably the most expensive [wheeled] artillery on the planet
two of the best systems i guess
@@embreis2257 the most expensive and without a spare parts, none of them are used in ukraine, because none of them works xDDD Next time you read those nonsense that german military gear is the best in the world, ask your ukrainian friends how many of Leopards 1A5 and pzh2000 are they using.
@@kjungst And why have your friends and their huge army of orcs not made any progress for a year? There is a huge hole in your logic. But we know that if nothing else works, speaking up always works for you loudmouths slava ukraina
@@kjungst And why have your friends and their huge army of orcs not made any progress for a year? There is a huge hole in your logic. But we know that if nothing else works, speaking up always works for you
Ukrainians are AMAZING! Thank you Germany! Cheers from Portugal.
Absoluten Respekt für die ukrainischen Soldaten der Wille ihre Heimat zu verteidigen. Mit altem und neuem Gerät.
Ja, leider hat dieser Scholz die Lieferung von Kampfpanzern und anderem dringend benötigtem Gerät völlig sinnlos um viele Monate verzögert. Persönlich mache ich ihn deswegen für den unnötigen Tod Tausender Ukrainer verantwortlich.
Gepard should get a prize - Comeback of the year 2023.
EU aid probably Germany is also a main payer... so at the end it´s much more than 21B
The Kiel Institute tracks each country's Ukraine and and seperately calculates each EU member's share of EU aid.
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Message to Congress: Have you seen this? This is what Germany sent. You are whining over nickels and dimes. The equipment that the US sends is obsolete and you whine knowing that all that equipment needs to go one way or the other. The new equipment, for the sake of security will be built in the US. That means JOBS. You are complaining about JOBS FOR AMERICANS!
Unfortunately, the house... The insurrectionist, authoritarians, fascists and white nationalist (a.k.a. the Republican party) are blocking the appropriation of money, simply they don't care. Because of their interference, the house (maga) is giving aid and comfort to Putin, who is donnies BFF. Democrats are doing their jobs, conservatives and independent voters need to form a new party. It's 2024 (happy new year) and time to get rid of electoral college, one person, one vote equals Democracy! Cheers!
They take the aid hostage for other political gains.
GOP, what can you say!
believe me, here in Germany people are also whining over nickels and dimes.
The Dem's fully support Ukraine, the fascist, insurrectionist, authoritarian and white Nationalists (a.k.a. the Republican party) are holding back money, because of donnie's BFF Putin, and his loathing of Ukraine. I agree, it's penny's on the dollar, well worth the investment on so many levels. I call maga "the stupid" Cheers!
Can't beat German quality or engineering
Well, they lost two world wars so far.
well, except in ww1 and ww2.....
@@stephen2583 that's why I said quality and engineering
@@eismann82 The quality for VW, Audi, BMW become shit. So no, german quality is a past.
@@kjungst since BMW is rated 3rd in consumer reports reliability rating, your incorrect
As an Australian, I wish we could do more to help, but unfortunately, we don't have a large military or large-scale military equipment production. We do have a lot of natural resources that can help to rebuild Ukraine once the war is over. To all Ukrainians, stay safe and stay strong.
australia aint helping
The Aussies have helped where they can and the world knows. Unclassified documents shows so far your country has provided,
1. M113 APC, 56 so far with more pledged
2. Bushmaster IMV, 130 so far
3. Dozens of special purpose miltary vehicles which includes tactical trucks
4. M777 towed artillery, 6 so far
5. Artillery shells, 155mm and 105mm included
6. Small arms and loitering munitions for the infantries
7. AU$24 million of aid provided so far.
@@ClickWasddamn right! Aussies did their job very well!
@@chriswostmann744 its ok and thats about it
You need to get prepared for your own War in the Paciffic.
It does not happen often to make me proud to be a German. But after I heard and see the performance of the German military it did make me proud again.
There must have been a big mistake happened in numbers when it was announced that Germany helped Ukraine with 20 Million probably in Euro. I am sure it was NOT 20 Million but 20 Billion Euro in cash money too. Thank you to my German government in helping Ukraine!
We used to drive our Gepard and Stinger teams on a hill that was made for this. The hill was high enough that we could detect and engage with targets that where trying to attack our air field as it greatly improved our "line of sight".
Vous ne pouvez pas vaincre la Russie..malgré que vous soyez 54 pays..OU CES l'Europe qui disparaîtra
politics aside, german tanks were always beautiful
Greetings from Germany and Thanks for all of your service!
i saw a video with a red army soldier. he was scared about the fact that he could run in to a german leopard. he said: they are operating a modern leopard in this region.
i think that says a lot about what do you have in your army and the morale of soldiers. that's all!
Video with a Red Army soldier? 1941 or 1943, Stalingrad?
They cautioned us in basic training at Bundeswehr not to smoke at night in a war as a Leopard or equivalent would see us for miles and kill us instantly.
@feodosiyaonline1555
No, in 2023 - when ruz hordes are not ashamed to regularly display red flags on their outdated cold war equipment.
All Clowns!!! Red Nose oh shit yeah! Laughing over the Red Nose Clowns! Or should i say Vodka Clowns!@@alfisti93
Yes, that is basic training! We also use Leos here in Swiss! Really well made Tanks! All the German Tanks are the best of the best!@@yves2932
Gepard goes "puuur"
"I call it Kitty" 😆
The PZH2000 and Gepard are really putting in the work.
Notably a big chunk of that €85B EU aid would also come indirectly from germany, increasing its total help considerably. And most of that is directly financial in nature, whereas the exact monetary value of old-ish soon-to-be-decommissioned military aid from the US is hard to put a good number to. Btw: I'm not scoffing at US help: it's great, it's needed and it encompasses some of the most important aid in the form of huge amounts of ammunition!
Just that there has been so much discussion about "how much the US is spending on Ukraine, why doesn't Europa pick up the slack".
Its funny to me how many people are like "The Leopard 2 is trash! It gets destroyed so easily!".
First: Its a war machine. Of course it gets damaged or destroyed. BUT they are few in numbers on the front line and we see just a few of them getting destroyed entirely. So what does that mean? It is really effective and withstand much before they are not usable anymore.
And second: A war machine can be replaced fast, but the crew not. And thats the key. The crew is more likely to survive in a Leopard 2 than in any other soviet tank. Alone that makes it way more valuable than what the ukrainians had in their armoury.
Straight up FACTS, couldn't said better myself. (*Soviet tanks,not Russian)
@@DerpyFox Yes, you are right soviet tanks, sorry :D But basicly the same
The other thing is...The Western Weapon has Crews that are well trained for many, many years. And the are well trained to operate cross-weapon simultaneous. Its a hugh different between trained the basics for 1-2 Month or trained for Years with cross-weapon operations, repairs, combat tactics and so on and on...
And this is why the coming F16 will make no hugh different...ukraine can maybe fly them but not perfectly operate with them and they will have many loses because the are Rookies....like with the other western Stuff.
@@KirTyun First wrong point you made is when you typed ''A war machine can be replaced fast''. That's not true and that's because Leopards can't be repaired on Ukrainian soil, they need to go to Poland and get repaired then sent back and that won't happen ''fast''. Second wrong point is where you say that western tanks are safer for the crew and that's debatable because with today's weapons mostly Drones and Anti-Tank weapons carried by soldiers it all depends on where the ammo will hit the tank and if the tank is covered by soldiers and aircrafts, also the training of the crew plays crucial role and Ukrainians didn't train for too long.
@@Silent.Hunter it´s a fact that the crew is more likely to survive a direct hit in a western tank than in a soviet tank, except maybe the russian t90m which got some improvements.
Flak-airbursts and close/medium range chainguns will always be useful in a battle, we see that now with the drones being used and countered
Leopard 2a7 > T-90 T-80 T-72
thats what idiots says
leopard is geting claped by a 200 dollar drone
@@ybag9909t90/80/72/55/54's are getting clapped by a 200 dollar drone and a small hand grenade
@@ybag9909 T-90 foram destruídos por drones que carregavam Granadas de mão
@@ybag9909 in your dreams.
In reality they withstand an artillery rounds and doing fine
Gepard saves lives!
and it takes lives ..
miau :3
Stay strong Ukraine!
Thank you germany❤
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Now THAT's an airforce I trust! 😁
Oleksii is probably a Rammstein fan, looking a lot like Till Lindemann, 🤟🏼💪🏽
Pls don't forget - Leopard 2 is in service since 1978... Leopard 2 A5 since 1998.
For example T-90M is in service since 2016.
What we are talking about are generations of weapon systems.
In addition - on the battlefield it is much more important to master the device than to be able to operate it.
Glad to see that the german military aid is helping!
It’s been show to be a very effective anti air weapon, as it attracts a lot of drones out of the sky.
As an American, I hope the Abrams and F16 will help.
We have about 1,000 ATACMS that have reached their expiration date(s). They are very expensive to safely dismantle and dispose of. From an economic standpoint it's a win, win for the US and Ukraine for the missles to be shipped to Ukraine for active use. Could Ukraine officially request the US government for these missles?
I am Ukrainian. Listen, American, what are you doing in my Ukraine? You support a criminal regime that is hated by the Ukrainian people.
There's over 70 thousand vehicles in Afghanistan. Just sitting 🙈
I hope we stop sending money
@@unreal4010
It never makes it there.
@@joeschlotthauer840 you sure?
I guess that if this war is finally over and Ukraine is a part of NATO, we'll need all of those soldiers to come back to Germany and to teach us, what they have learned 😉
Doce vam rusi
What should Germany or any NATO Country learn? You are aware that the reason WHY Ukraine has a chance to win this War is because of NATO Doctrine and West Equipment, right? Ukraine Army is in transformation, in a very harsh one, from a Post Soviet Army into a NATO one. They are doing great for that but let us not to pretend that Ukraine has an Army full of 150 IQ Ultra Elite Cyber Soldiers now, just because they know how to use a PzH2000.
L'Ukraine rejoindre l, otan arrête de rêver..OU CES l,Otan qui se fera écrasés par la Sainte Russie
Get real...Ukraine has already lost the war, they will not become a member of NATO...!!!
One can dream...-..one can dream. Just don't forget about the harsh reality.
The funny thing about the Gepard is that, not only was it retired, but it was replaced by the various Roland air defense systems which themselves have also been retired.
Just to put into perspective how old it is.
It hasnt been replaced and it's mordern version isnt that old.
This type of weaponsystems were deemed to be irrelevant and therefore there havent been a replacement.
The weaponsystem started beeing phased out in 2010 in Germany.
Gepards are still in service outside of Germany (beside Ukraine).
Good ti know that our german technology is getting good use
Some countries are smaller than others, so it makes more sense to compare support as a % of the contributors GDP. Germany, the Eastern EU countries and Scandinavian have all given (much) more than the US (or the UK).
Because I looked it up for Germany last week, I can spell it out:
Germany's economy is almost 1/7th of the US, but it provided 1/3rd of the US contribution.
When you add humanitarian expenditures, the gap narrows to 1/2.
And the same is true for many other European nations, with the notable exceptions of France, Italy, Spain and UK.
In total, EU nations and EU institutions provided 133 billion Euros, head and shoulders over what the US gave. Which is ok because we're here in Europe, but in the US the general perception is, that they are paying for everything. Which objectively not true. Not in relation to GDP and not in plain numbers. If that false perception could be corrected, it would stop the erosion of support, I believe.
It shouldnt be a competition, but as a non-German I cant help but notice all the German bashing that was going on over the past 2 years, when the numbers prove the opposite and other nations who do less than they could, lay really low and fly under the radar...
@@Ganiscol Thank you from Germany!
@@gerhardgerber6762Germany will be a super power again!
@@Ganiscolnot only that, US spends 900 billion a year on the defence budget for nothing. The last 20 trillion they spend in 2 decades did not hurt a single Russian/Chinese territorial target and now they spend 100th of that and cry about it.
@@ElSantoDeMostoles I am convinced that it is not the intention of the Germans to become a super power, rather they are trying to reassure themselves that they have done everything in case the worst happens and Ukraine loses out...
stay strong ukraine brothers
the pzh2000 operator´s haircut is perfect for a warrior.
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Russia has superior quantities, until they don’t. Everything they have was inherited from the Soviet Union. It took the Soviet Union over 50 years to accumulate their massive stockpiles.
The west collectively including 🇩🇪 is doing alot to help and definitely boosted its support show Europe can defend it self when pushed. Glory to 🇺🇦 ❤️ 🇬🇧 please 🇺🇸 don’t stop supporting your allies and interests important in the future
erm... no they can't without help of Yankland and this is the big problem which they have to solve but this will take a lot of time and money ! On the other hand, the Yanks have a completely different goal in Ukraine than Europe has !
@@buschtaxi75driver55 did you watch the video?
0:35 thats not artillery. Thats an MT-LB with short range AA missiles. I think its some Strela version iirc.
Also Interesting the Marder IFV is only about 10 years younger than the US M113 APC.
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It's funny how even after 80 years since WWII its still that everyone is talking about Us germans teaching the most and have the best of the most. Simply the best of the best at what we do.
Greetings from Deutschland.
The problem with German weapons is not their quality, but maintenance and repair, as the inventory and units have been centralized and minimized due to the budget constraints for the military of the last 30 years.
Logistics in general must be a nightmare in Ukraine. They operate various military vehicles from various nations. I mean, the Bundeswehr decided not to use a heavy caliber machine gun (50 cal) and instead use the MG3 in a light, medium and heavy role (on "lafette" tripod"). This only changed recently with M2 Machine-Guns added to some choppers, spec-ops and some recon units and the reason given? Logistics. Just using 7.62 for pretty much every firearm (cold war, in the 90's 5.56 joined the club with the G36) would be much easier on the logistical side. Now turn to Ukraine. Not only do they use all kinds of western calibers, they also use all kinds of Russian calibers. This alone is brutal, absolutely brutal logistically. Thinking about the mess in regards to vehicles on top of all this would give me nightmares for sure, if I'd be responsible for logistics in Ukraine. They are marvels handling these challenges so well. It's almost unbelievable. Slava Ukraine!
after years of war, those shortcomings could have been fixed... has it? i dont know. But i know the polish help with repairs
@@zoolkhan Shortcomings is an understatement and no, it has not been fixed and it will not be fixed. The Ukraine can't replace their entire military with unified western gear all at once.
That's literally impossible. There is not enough western gear available.
The polish help repairing Russian gear and polish origin gear. They do not help repairing Leopard tanks, as they asked for ludicrous requirements for Germans to setup shop. Basically, they wanted to get a dollar for 50 cent. On a sidenote they also used this to put Germany in a bad light. Quite pathetic in times of war tbh, but it is not a polish quirk. A lot of these arms deals are more or less sideways to get rid of older equipment on the cheap side. Anyhow. So Leopards now need to be pulled to Germany and Lithuania for repairs and maintenance. Just imagine your repair shop is 1500km behind your frontline. That's the opposite of desirable.
@@zoolkhan Can the polish even help? They insisted to get access to the building plans in exchange for approving a workshop. The manufactorer rejected that proposal.
The budget constraints aren´t even the big problem, it´s the way how they source their parts and ammunition. They literally get ripped off by the military industrial complex.
Statistically, Germany is amongst the biggest spenders in military budget in EU and that doesn´t even include the extra money package the government already agreed on spending to restock.
very nice video
Obviously unless their lines of advance are totally clear of mines and other obstacles re: making foreword assaults one can expect these tanks and other like them to be used as long range snipers , especially at night with their advanced night vision optics
But sadly ukraine uses them more and more as assault vehicles instead of using there long range weapons
They have used them in this way, but stopped @@RustyBear
N'importe quoi l'armée ukrainiennes n'existent pas et s'ils continuent d'embêter la Russie..L'Ukraine risque d'être raser complètement
@@RustyBear that's false. Indeed in the beginning of the counter offensive Ukraine tried a breakthrough - and lost some Leopards.... Visually confirmed destroyed: 1 x Leopard 1A5, 7 Leopard 2A4, 4 Leopard 2A6, 1 Stridsvagn 122. Additionally damaged or abandoned 7 Leopard 2 A4, 8 2A6 and 4 Stridsvagn 122. It's unclear, how much of the damaged/abandoned are recovered.
However, most of these losses occurred in the first 3-5 days of the counteroffensive. Ukraine then changed tactics from mechanized assault to small infantry groups followed by mechanized backup.
Ukraine got at least 77-80 Leopard 2, and currently arriving bit by bit (because they need refits and updates) around 160 Leopard 1A5 ... and even so older and smaller calibre, the lighter Leopard 1A5 might come in very handy. German 1A5 tankers regularly performed excellent against Leopard 2A4.
Considering the battlefield, and mile deep heavy mining, this is actually a great performance. Especially, since many crews could evacuate.
@@tobiasbauer198 They stopped after they ran out of these vehicles.
Great work
The main Problem right now is that some of the systems break down because of wrong maintenance and the fact that Poland under PiS didn't allow KMw (makers of PzH 2000 and Leo 2) set up shop in Poland. So they had to set up shop in Lithuania. Also, because of urgency , the Ukraine insisted on a 3 months training schedule, normal is 6 months. Some of the systems broke because Ukrainian mechanics tried to fix them without the proper knowledge. Not their fault, they simply lacked 3 months of training. However, those problems should be gone very soon. Since KMW is setting up a new shop in the Ukraine, so maintenance, production and training will be done in Ukraine. FYI, the Iris-T as a success rate in Ukraine of 100 % . One shot one kill. Patriot has 98 % according to Ukraine.
Ukrainian army needs more Patriot systems at this time
They are inbound. Together with more IRIS-T systems.
what for ? Ukraine claims it shots down 100% of Russian missiles and drones. Do you want them with additional Patriot to shot down 200% of missiles or what ?
@@alexpoetov32131. Reserves for bigger attacks.
2. And no they don’t say that they shoot down 100% of the targets.
3. Patriot is not the most important anti air weapon, the Ukrainians need much more classic anti air guns.
@@alexpoetov3213 They haven't claimed that. They do shoot down a lot which is why they need more missiles. EU will provide Ukraine with 1000 Patriot missiles.
And with more systems, they can use them closer to the Frontline and not just for protecting the big cities. They have already done this. When Russia lost 5 of their best fighter jets in a few days. When you combine this with the 60 upgraded F16s that are inbound.. things will become seriously interesting.
@@alexpoetov3213they need more to cover the whole airspace over the Ukraine. Until now they can only cover strategic important places and have a lot of gaps in there air defence. And if they have enough systems then they need more rockets and more trained crews. And they need more HIMSRS systems and rockets! I’m not sure if they should get the tanks? For this money I would take more HIMARS rockets.
In a War that is primarily fought with Systems from the 60s and mid 70's on the Russian side, German late 70s and 80's museum Pieces stack up pretty well.
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I've seen several YT videos of the Pzh 2000, Leopard 2, CV90, M2 Bradley other military vehicles the UAF have in action, but I've yet to see on video of the Challenger 2, Marder IFV, Archer and the M1 Abrams in action, is there a reason why they're not being shown?
Some Marders have been used and damaged, one Challenger 2 was destroyed, and the Abrams the soldiers are training on, they were handed over not too long ago
@@DerpyFox I forgot about the destroyed Challenger 2.
Some systems have only few units delivered to Ukraine, or are only recently delivered. Some systems are only given to special forces units who maintain a media lock down, or are used in areas that require more operational security. In some cases the donor countries may have requested that Ukraine refrain from posting videos on the systems.
Abrams is quite heavy and will get easily stuck in the mud now, also its top armor is quite thin making it easy for FPV drones to damage or destroy it.
they aren't shown because of operational security due to them being a high value target
Freut mich dass in letzter Zeit doch sehr positive Dinge in Deutschland und durch Deutsche entstehen wenn man vergleicht was die letzten 16 Jahre hier los war ist das wirklich sehr Willkommen.
Finde ich auch !
Ironisch bis zum umfallen, dass es dabei um Krieg geht xD
seh ich auch so, da kann man durchaus auch mal Stolz empfinden
Respect
Russain call leopard 2 "knight cat" cuz of its way superior night vision and less sound tech compare to T series tanks .
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Leopard, Gepard and Puma. Wait until the new Panther will launch. Those cats are mean
They are scrap metal.
can't help but smile at the uk not being in the top 3. the hare and the tortoise. germany being the tortoise, ofcourse. johnson thought he was landing some ordinary big contract. our businessmen have steamed inand it's a small part of what the people actually want. that said, the lufftwaffe, RAF and Ukrainian air force all flying together. sign of the times
UK is doing a lot but considering that they signed the Budapest memoranda as a guarantee state, they are still pretty hesitant.
The Panzerhaubitze 2000 is an absolute marvel of a system. I wish we would put this standard of quality and thought into everything here...
just to put things into perspective Norway is giving around 150000 euros per person to Ukraine
Well, this is not petty shit where we should skew numbers to make ourselves feel good.
That is why the support is ranked quantitatively.
would love to see a vid about french aid like the vab, ceasars, mambe sam, amx 10 rc and more
Цезарь хорошая, остальное посредственное барахло
I would like to see that also, as it would be very short. France has given less miltary support than Lithuania. Macron REALLY has to step up the support. Ukraine needs everything they can get. And please don't deliver outdated systems and other junk. They are fighting a war over there and aren't just on a shooting range. The best thing yet is the Cesar, but most of them were delivered by Denmark. 19 compared to France's 18.
@@u.s.1974the thing is, their military expert are saying that they cannot afford sending more stuff not to mention it's quite a risky move because most if not all french equipement is designed with the french philosophy & doctrine but ukraine uses the opposite, just have to compare the 10rc and ceasar to their counter part in other countries
0:17 this is a very weird chart
Steel rain is always handy.
Germany providing 30x more than France. How can this be? Where are our "allies"?
Ja es sind gute Waffen. Aber es fehlt an Logistik für Ersatzteile und Munition und an Infrastruktur für derartiges Gerät. Ich wünschte es währe anders
Und jetzt, tschüss
Die Mangelverwaltung kennen wir bei der Bundeswehr!
Ja unfassbar diese Entwicklung. In denn 90ern hatte man noch eine funktionale Armee und jetzt einen bemittleidenswerten Haufen der viel Geld verschlingt aber wenig verspricht
German where are the Taurus? Any doubts? Storm shadow and Scalp is proving the point.
our money, our tech, our decision
Its not like we can send everything to ukraine. Some tech is too costly
@@k_u_e_r_i_s_u_e yes ofc. But german argue was: we dont think Taurus would make the difference. Scalp and Storm shadow have similar capabilities. So what remains is Decision.
I think Scholz' last "argument" against it was that France and UK "can do what we are not allowed to". Somehow saying that we would need to deliver geo data or involve soldiers operating the IT behind taurus. So anything that would somehow directly involve Germany.
@@RustyBear I don't think it's a question of money.
That single bass note isn't irritating at all...
And then came the Swedish BAE Archer System....
Aww I missed the LIVE! 😩
But I made it for the comments..
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I am more Impressed that Germany despite its Reservations early on has become such a Big Contributor for Ukraine.
Germany is exceedingly Pacifist nowdays. Anything beyond Humanitarian Aid is Generally out of the Question and wont even be considered.
So Germany providing this kind of Weaponry and even Training for Soldiers and all of this on this Scale is really Surprising.
Thats not really surprising.
The US controll over geman politics isn't strong, its absolute.
78 years later and still occupied.
Depends on the user..
True actually
Certainly it does and on the politicians meddling with military command.
you got some from the netherland too
These weapons and vehicles were developed in the Old War to be able to hold their own against Russia at the peak of its power. and it's nice to see that they work :). Of course, it would be all the nicer if Putin had never made the use of these weapons necessary. I wish the Uktaine good luck and a speedy peace :) Keep your heads down guys and don't step back.
Beautiful
Saludos desde Nuevo Laredo Tamaulipas Mexico, un abrazo y bendiciones a todo(a)s en UKRANIA defendiendo a su patria, Dios lo(a)s bendiga, un 2024 pleno de victorias en batalla 🙂✌👍✊🤙🤝🇺🇦☮♾🛡🏁💯SLAVA UKRAINIA!!!
А почему твой дед испугался защищать Мексику, когда Америка захаатила мексиканские штаты? Почему вы мекисканцы отсасываете американцам
Ich hoffe, dass die Ukraine so aufgerüstet wird, dass Putin seine Grenzen aufgezeigt werden. Dieser Kampf dient unserer Demokratie. LG Thomas
Das glaubst du doch nicht selbst oder? 🤦♂
No wonder that the leo2 dont perform well, when they give it to "normal" guys with few weeks military training ?! like what
Slava Ukraini from Germany
Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇩🇪
Thanks for supporting Ukraine people ❤
Ist das normal das sie den gesamten Panzer inklusive Technik Filmen und zeigen?😮
Die wirklich interessanten Sachen sind eh auf Festplatten gespeichert.
Glaube es, das war nicht ausschlaggebend. Da sind ganz andere Videos und Beiträge im Netz und im Fernsehen, die geben mehr als das hier wieder.
@@LukaszOwczarek-ch9qkRussische Bürger besichtigen die Teile in Kubinka neben Opas Tiger und Königstiger..............
Ahh ok danke, beruhiged
Oh, hier verschwinden wieder einmal Kommentare, die offensichtlich zu nah an die Wahrheit kommen!?
SLAVA UKRAINSKA
Real soon it will be the Ukrainians teaching us, real world experience is invaluable.
and where is the result of these experienced Ukrainian soldiers on the best German equipment in the world?
Ist egal wie viele geschickt werden es gibt's zwei Wege für die Waffen 1. Werden verkauft oder 2.werden zerstört
sadly this has shown how terribly underequipped our Bundeswehr on its own is. WIthout NATO, and especially the US we'd be unable to help
Not the Weapons are the problem. Its the soldiers. They are not well educated in useing those high complex systems. In Germany it takes 5 years to drive a Leopard2. The Ukrainians were trained for some month. This cant work out.😢
False. German, Spanish and US trainers themselves have said they haven't seen such fast learners in their lives. Ukrainians are so motivated in defending their country that they wanted to train even when the training schedule was for them to rest/sleep. Also the systems are complex, but intuitive, and the "silicone" still does a lot of the heavy lifting.
Russians have the same issues. How many of the original personell is still alive ? 20 % ?
The leopard’s aren’t good there are now more destroyed then still operating
Heeresflugabwehr! 💪🏽
Danke für das Video! Ich wünsche Euch für 2024 noch mehr Unterstützung, den offenbar fehlt Euch immer noch genügend Material und die zugehörige Munition! Ruhm der Ukraine! 🇺🇦
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A TOTAL NON GAME CHANGING EFFECT
No one claimed they are game changers except Russian trolls.
Please support Ukraine
Hahahaah... Not everyone supports Amreican expendable army. Actualy no one outside of dark aliance of eternal colonialists.
Die Ukrainer können mit diesem Gerät einfach nicht umgehen. Bei dieser Hochtechnologie,geht nichts mit Hammer und Meissel!!
Has anyone sent this video to Ms. Wagenknecht?
agora vai
Confia
Don't bog down in the mud.
Und es reicht dennoch nicht aus damit die Ukraine gewinnen kann...
Ukraine needs even *MORE* support!
Es wird nie reichen, auch wenn es bis zum letzen Panzer geliefert wird. Deutsche Waffen sind keine Wunderwaffen. Wie werden so lange zerstört werden bis der letze geliefert wird. Es verlängert nur den Krieg. Ukraine wird nicht gewinnen können.
Zu glauben, dass westliche Waffenlieferungen zu einem Sieg der Ukraine beitragen werden ist ziemlich naiv. Der Ukraine gehen die Soldaten aus, weil sie stümperhaft eine Gegenoffensive nach der anderern gestartet haben, die von den Russen in fast allen Fällen zurückgeschlagen wurden - zum Nachteil der Ukraine, denn die Verluste waren immer wieder immens. 🙄
Zumal, je mehr Waffen wir dort hin liefern, desto weniger stehen uns Waffen für einen Ernstfall zur Verfügung. Mal abgesehen davon, dass wir seit Jahren Munitionsknappheit haben.
All the obsolete technology, in the world of Drone Technology!