I grew up in the very liberal enclave of Washington D.C., and then lived in conservative southern Ohio and then north Carolina. While being a progressive in these latter two places has its challenges, I am grateful for these experiences. It's made me smarter, more empathetic, more human, and I can now relate to pretty much anyone - which has helped me tremendously in my advocacy work. If you want to gain perspective, and just...GROW as a person - go out and meet people and experience things outside of your bubble of comfort. It's worth it.
Very interesting. To understand how someone thinks and why they think the way they do, first requires empathy. I appreciate the fact that Arlie made that effort to be empathetic and so gives me a better understanding of a people that are far away from my own experience.
Well I'm from the south and still live here and I think these rural voters are completely full of shit and I have no empathy for their perspective, so perhaps the only reason the poster above has empathy while disagreeing with them is he doesn't know them. These good people of Louisiana that you think deserve all this empathy want to go back to an era where they had total control of the culture. Why anybody should be empathetic towards that position who isn't them is what hasn't been explained to me. Go back and listen to the first part of this interview where one of the women the author becomes close to loves Rush Limbaugh because he gives it to the "Feminazis" while then complaining her culture and religion aren't respected the way she's sure they should be. Ask that same woman what she thinks of Islam or atheism and I guarantee she doesn't have any respect for those positions either. Simply put she wants her position and point of view privileged above all others the way it use to be. I just don't give a shit that people like her are sad that other perspectives now get to win out and I personally wish the Southern Evangelical voter had much less influence than they still do.
These same "good people" who feel they're being "pushed back in line" had no problem excluding their fellow Louisianans from the line altogether. It was all good when depriving their non-white neighbors was to their advantage. Now they've developed a keen sense of entitlement to the undeserved privilege they enjoyed for so many years. It's hard to feel much sympathy for them.
"It was all good when depriving their non-white neighbors was to their advantage." Lemme ask you a question. Are you referring to some kind of depriving that happened in the times of slavery or some depriving that happened in the last decades? Because if it's the former, I think you're an utter idiot for blaming people that were born 50, 60, or 70 years ago or something that happened when they didn't even exist as atoms.
Clinton never called all Trump supporters deplorable, she said "half", and also said that the other half has reasonable grievances that we should listen to and take care of. And she's right, for the most part. I would actually go further and say most of of Trump supporters are deplorable. Why? Because simply having a socioeconomic reason for being racist, does not excuse being racist or supporting racist policies.
16:07 "Good old Uncle Bernie...Its Hillary they couldn't stand". My thesis remains. Had Bernie been the nominee and had been given exposure on the MSM he would have won hands down.
Duh, Google this: "To try to understand the tea party supporters I came to know-I interviewed 60 people in all-over the next five years I did a lot of "visiting," as they call it. I asked people to show me where they'd grown up, been baptized, and attended school, and the cemetery where their parents had been buried. I perused high school yearbooks and photograph albums, played cards, and went fishing. I attended meetings of Republican Women of Southwest Louisiana and followed the campaign trails of two right-wing candidates running for Congress."
It would be so beneficial if we could delete judgmental terminologies such as right, left, liberal, conservative, feminists, and all the other code words for categorizing people as "like me" or "not like me." If we could see each other as human beings who all want to be happy and not suffer, and if we could work together on one thing to help others, I think we could come together in community. That's where changes happen, not in the DNC or RNC or DC.
I have been watching democracynow for a while because of their non-political views, their presentation of both sides, and their promotion of rights for all. Watching this episode has really questioned my view. Don't get me wrong, I am not for either candidate.
I'm from Louisiana, it's alienating that someone like Monique Harden from AEHR, or Roseanne Adderley, or Brian Marx, someone from Louisiana with a background in sociology couldn't speak to these issues. You've had Monique on your show before, but a professor from California talks about us like we live in a different nation. If you live in the United States, and especially if you are in the northeast (heating oil? what is this 1890? why are you still burning oil to heat homes? you are on Rockerfeller's plantation, i suppose) You also live on Exxon's plantation, don't get it in your head that somehow that we are lesser because we see up close how the democratic party serves oil interests.
the obama administration cancelled drilling on the east coast on a 'climate basis', but it has no problem nuking the climate from GoM OCS revenues. they couldn't walk away from the billions of dollars. don't blame us for not being able to combat Exxon and federal dependence on our oil at the same time. Join us!
There is currently a Democratic Senate candidate for senate, Foster Campbell, who announces that the oil industry is causing climate change. Will the democratic party support this candidate? Will the democratic party support Campbell and Fayard so that Democrats alone will be in the runoff? we are within 4 points of a Dem Senator and we get no support!!
The Clintons abandoned their natural voterbase, and they left the Democrats. We should all be livid. My solution: Jill Stein, who actually walks the walk.
A very good interview. Yes, there are people in the South that are hopeless bigots but the majority understands all, regardless of race or sex, are trying to survive. Where the resentment arises is when blacks or women are given jobs over people that are more qualified and everybody has to be afraid to speak the truth. To remedy one wrong with another is just one more wrong.
Are you saying affirmative action doesn't give preferential treatment to one group over another? That seems to replacing one kind of discriminatory laws with another. It doesn't mean that aren't competent but it doesn't meant they ARE either. There is a difference between protectionism feminism and equality feminism. (and whatever the equivalent terms for people of color are) That being said I do admit that even under equality feminism more can be done to make sure the law does apply to every one equally. If you want me to go into the differences between the two schools of feminism let me know.
I don't understand, every policy and laws is the same in the whole country. We all pay taxes. If you don't like were you are leave it and embrace new journey because that is the libertarians way.
do you know being attached to the land? to a place? your place in the world? a community and way of life? a rural culture? Not everybody is a globetrotter
you are naive if you think policy and law works the same in each state of the United States. Louisiana is an oil colony for the United States, in the way that West Virginia is abused for coal. look at an aerial photo, a fourth of the state is just gone. why? the United States needed the oil, so the Clean Water Act has been deferred.
Perhaps Louisiana needs the Government as a result of Nagin and the boys actions surrounding Katrina. A hilarious opinion from the great minds at Berkeley, who also brought us the brilliant SLA manifesto.....or lack thereof.
I grew up in the very liberal enclave of Washington D.C., and then lived in conservative southern Ohio and then north Carolina. While being a progressive in these latter two places has its challenges, I am grateful for these experiences. It's made me smarter, more empathetic, more human, and I can now relate to pretty much anyone - which has helped me tremendously in my advocacy work. If you want to gain perspective, and just...GROW as a person - go out and meet people and experience things outside of your bubble of comfort. It's worth it.
Very interesting. To understand how someone thinks and why they think the way they do, first requires empathy. I appreciate the fact that Arlie made that effort to be empathetic and so gives me a better understanding of a people that are far away from my own experience.
great. but why would you listen to this from someone from california and not people from Louisiana that have been explaining this?
Well I'm from the south and still live here and I think these rural voters are completely full of shit and I have no empathy for their perspective, so perhaps the only reason the poster above has empathy while disagreeing with them is he doesn't know them. These good people of Louisiana that you think deserve all this empathy want to go back to an era where they had total control of the culture. Why anybody should be empathetic towards that position who isn't them is what hasn't been explained to me.
Go back and listen to the first part of this interview where one of the women the author becomes close to loves Rush Limbaugh because he gives it to the "Feminazis" while then complaining her culture and religion aren't respected the way she's sure they should be. Ask that same woman what she thinks of Islam or atheism and I guarantee she doesn't have any respect for those positions either. Simply put she wants her position and point of view privileged above all others the way it use to be. I just don't give a shit that people like her are sad that other perspectives now get to win out and I personally wish the Southern Evangelical voter had much less influence than they still do.
So whats the solution John Horton ? What do you suggest?
These same "good people" who feel they're being "pushed back in line" had no problem excluding their fellow Louisianans from the line altogether. It was all good when depriving their non-white neighbors was to their advantage. Now they've developed a keen sense of entitlement to the undeserved privilege they enjoyed for so many years. It's hard to feel much sympathy for them.
Bete Noire this lady needs Jane Elliot or Dr Robin Diangelo to help raise her consciousness, her analysis seems real surface level
"It was all good when depriving their non-white neighbors was to their advantage."
Lemme ask you a question. Are you referring to some kind of depriving that happened in the times of slavery or some depriving that happened in the last decades?
Because if it's the former, I think you're an utter idiot for blaming people that were born 50, 60, or 70 years ago or something that happened when they didn't even exist as atoms.
Those 50, 60, and 70 year olds are the ones who put Trump over the top. And there's no need to go that far back. Remember Katrina?
Bete Noire What happened then? I don't know.
I'm totally going to read this book.
"Accuse opponents of what you do, call them what you are" - Stalin
i wanted a hour of this . thank you, from Portugal '
Clinton never called all Trump supporters deplorable, she said "half", and also said that the other half has reasonable grievances that we should listen to and take care of. And she's right, for the most part. I would actually go further and say most of of Trump supporters are deplorable. Why? Because simply having a socioeconomic reason for being racist, does not excuse being racist or supporting racist policies.
16:07 "Good old Uncle Bernie...Its Hillary they couldn't stand". My thesis remains. Had Bernie been the nominee and had been given exposure on the MSM he would have won hands down.
If only "Uncle Bernie" had won the nomination, we wouldn't be at such great risk for a Trump presidency right now.
She is the fifth Koch brother, the resemblance is uncanny!
So racial resentment and economic anxiety are highly interrelated that put the left and Democratic party in a difficult position.
These people are incredibly CREEPY. It's like they've never talked to a real person in their life.
Huh? This real person finds your post creepy.
Duh, Google this: "To try to understand the tea party supporters I came to know-I interviewed 60 people in all-over the next five years I did a lot of "visiting," as they call it. I asked people to show me where they'd grown up, been baptized, and attended school, and the cemetery where their parents had been buried. I perused high school yearbooks and photograph albums, played cards, and went fishing. I attended meetings of Republican Women of Southwest Louisiana and followed the campaign trails of two right-wing candidates running for Congress."
Lol, non-rightists aren't real people?
The "felt" sense of exile - combined > anger and mourning - loss of a way of life
14:20 Anger and Mourning --
Here in 2024, this is pretty interesting and sadly sickening.
Empathy it's one of the worst Traits to have.
As a president
Please correct the title "Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right"
It would be so beneficial if we could delete judgmental terminologies such as right, left, liberal, conservative, feminists, and all the other code words for categorizing people as "like me" or "not like me." If we could see each other as human beings who all want to be happy and not suffer, and if we could work together on one thing to help others, I think we could come together in community. That's where changes happen, not in the DNC or RNC or DC.
This is an example of one fronts against We the People.
F hrc she committed treason
What a fucked up title
This is not "their land"
Are we not dealing with fascists?
Stay strong comrades!
Her point at 4:24. Wow
Would love to hear her take on the misogyny factor which was unfortunatley ignored in this interview. Especially on the topic of Bernie vs Hillary
I have been watching democracynow for a while because of their non-political views, their presentation of both sides, and their promotion of rights for all.
Watching this episode has really questioned my view.
Don't get me wrong, I am not for either candidate.
I'm from Louisiana, it's alienating that someone like Monique Harden from AEHR, or Roseanne Adderley, or Brian Marx, someone from Louisiana with a background in sociology couldn't speak to these issues. You've had Monique on your show before, but a professor from California talks about us like we live in a different nation. If you live in the United States, and especially if you are in the northeast (heating oil? what is this 1890? why are you still burning oil to heat homes? you are on Rockerfeller's plantation, i suppose) You also live on Exxon's plantation, don't get it in your head that somehow that we are lesser because we see up close how the democratic party serves oil interests.
the obama administration cancelled drilling on the east coast on a 'climate basis', but it has no problem nuking the climate from GoM OCS revenues. they couldn't walk away from the billions of dollars. don't blame us for not being able to combat Exxon and federal dependence on our oil at the same time. Join us!
There is currently a Democratic Senate candidate for senate, Foster Campbell, who announces that the oil industry is causing climate change. Will the democratic party support this candidate? Will the democratic party support Campbell and Fayard so that Democrats alone will be in the runoff? we are within 4 points of a Dem Senator and we get no support!!
The Clintons abandoned their natural voterbase, and they left the Democrats. We should all be livid. My solution: Jill Stein, who actually walks the walk.
3:37 The shaming bully? 4:18 "...everybody except white blue collar men."
He didn't provoke it. The media accuses him of going on tirades about random things when he is just responding to the thousands of smears.
A very good interview. Yes, there are people in the South that are hopeless bigots but the majority understands all, regardless of race or sex, are trying to survive. Where the resentment arises is when blacks or women are given jobs over people that are more qualified and everybody has to be afraid to speak the truth. To remedy one wrong with another is just one more wrong.
so because someone is black or a woman means they are not qualified for the job. ok........
Are you saying affirmative action doesn't give preferential treatment to one group over another? That seems to replacing one kind of discriminatory laws with another. It doesn't mean that aren't competent but it doesn't meant they ARE either.
There is a difference between protectionism feminism and equality feminism. (and whatever the equivalent terms for people of color are) That being said I do admit that even under equality feminism more can be done to make sure the law does apply to every one equally.
If you want me to go into the differences between the two schools of feminism let me know.
I don't understand, every policy and laws is the same in the whole country. We all pay taxes. If you don't like were you are leave it and embrace new journey because that is the libertarians way.
do you know being attached to the land? to a place? your place in the world? a community and way of life? a rural culture? Not everybody is a globetrotter
you are naive if you think policy and law works the same in each state of the United States. Louisiana is an oil colony for the United States, in the way that West Virginia is abused for coal. look at an aerial photo, a fourth of the state is just gone. why? the United States needed the oil, so the Clean Water Act has been deferred.
furthermore, many people in Louisiana do leave, that concentrates the votes for republicans and people who don't want a good future for the state.
Perhaps Louisiana needs the Government as a result of Nagin and the boys actions surrounding Katrina. A hilarious opinion from the great minds at Berkeley, who also brought us the brilliant SLA manifesto.....or lack thereof.
I'm reading this book in 2019 and she doesn't truly understand the right, but at least she tried
Native Americans are still the real 'Strangers in their own land'