You definitely dont need an Architect for a loft conversion unless you are doing something extremely fancy. Some building surveyors, architectural technician or similar experienced professional will be able to do this for you. The most important thing to is check and review their experience on previous similar jobs.
You don’t necessarily need to go to a structural engineer you can use an architect. I worked in an architects office after recently qualifying as a structural engineer!
@@itzlaetitia5161 I’m doing it my self I’m a carpenter a lot of it is how you know not what you know of doing it your self and put in the hard work before you start it’s a lot better as for instance getting all the wood from a sawmill I supposed to from builders merchants to save you have a lot of money because you’re cutting the middleman out which is what I done and also you can get bigger timbers can shop around to get of stuff as well like the windows or installation that is needed can you use seconds no point getting the new stuff and paying silly prices and doing the plumbing you self it’s all push fit now the only hard work is getting stuff up there for the outside passing it all up
Builders/scaffolders are having a field day. I'm considering paying for carpentry/joinery course and do the frame myself 20k is madness when materials are likely 25% of that max. The internal works I will do myself as well. A lot can be saved by not doing a tin roof which is 5-6k when scaffolding can be around £500 Thanks for providing a cost breakdown of what is a market rate for a loft conversion. I'm more confident then ever I need to do the labour myself. The only major plus I got is I secured empty home VAT which grants me 5%. Whats going on now won't get better. Inflation is likely to cause everything to go up and builders will just keep those rates high with the excuse of inflation which is actually a minor cost of their total cost.
I'm doing mine myself - 100%. I was quoted £48K. already costed out the materials an the shell comes to about £8000. Ordered the steels and starting in May
I got ripped off on party wall agreement! Paid £1800. This was because I picked one who charged 950 then the neighbors disputed so I had to pay for an additional surveyor that represented the freeholder and lease holder 450 each x 2. £1800 total sigh...
Sorry to hear that. Party wall issue are the worst part of any project but at least you got the build done. I have heard many stories of issues dragging on for literally years 😣
Is it possible to differentiate between the material cost and the build cost? I.e. how much was the materials and how much was the labour for the shell?
Hi. Thanks for watching. We did not pay separately for the materials but we have done it before. I would estimate that the materials (steel beams, timber, tiles, windows, GRP etc) cost around £8k.
@@JoeBlogs thanks so much for your reply. Your videos have been very informative, anyone doing a loft should watch your loft conversion day 1 to 45 which provides very detaild description of work start to finish…made many notes for the builders before i agree the contract. I am at the paperwork stage with architect and structural drawings completed along with planning permission obtained, now looking for quotes…
Great series thank you. We are now in January 2022 and given all the news about increased material and to some degree labour costs do you think your cost now would be higher, and if so by how much? Thanks
How much would a job like this cost in the North? Sheffield area. Same house style and roof type as in this video. Also same size. Anyone got an idea roughly? 57k is a lot but I reckong it's cheaper in the North to keep up with income difference?
Great thanks. We are just at the beginning and architect was over measuring last week. Can I ask where in the country this is as i know prices will vary based on location. We were hoping 45k for the build and fixtures.
Hi. Thanks for watching. These prices are based in London. You may be able to do it for less elsewhere. Have a look at my How ti Find a Builder Online video as it will give you some tips on how to get multiple quotes and find the best possible deal. 👍
We are buying a buying a bungalow. And want to convert the existing loft. Do we still have to pay for a shell or can we just use the existing one but sitter up the joists?
If we have an approved inspector doing the building control regs and has sent the initial final notice to the council, do we still need to request planning permission from the council or is the approved inspector covering that with the notice? We have an old attic that is getting redone abit
@@JoeBlogs Thanks. I happened to know government services including local government don't attract VAT. If you had to pay it, your local council has probably passed it to private sector (like a lot of other local services: bus service, recycling, school (meals, mainetance and cleaning), career advice and so on). It makes sense as planning is about appearences but building reg is specialised engineering. It hit me when you mentioned for this there is a choice of going to the council or private providers.
Hi. Thanks for watching and the great question. This property was semi-detached and had a massive loft. Under PD rules you are only allowed to add 40m3 however this space was far bigger - more like 50m3 - so we had to apply for planning permission.
I think if you're making visible changes to the roof from the outside like adding windows then you do. Not 100% though, I hear alot of planning varies county to county
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Total cost is £57,168 with the fittings
Good video. Just one thing to mention - it is vital to get the completion certificate from the Council at the end.
You definitely dont need an Architect for a loft conversion unless you are doing something extremely fancy. Some building surveyors, architectural technician or similar experienced professional will be able to do this for you. The most important thing to is check and review their experience on previous similar jobs.
You don’t necessarily need to go to a structural engineer you can use an architect. I worked in an architects office after recently qualifying as a structural engineer!
I’m doing mine now just finished the out side and it’s taking more than 18 days but by the time it’s finished it’s going cost me 16k all in
Are you doing it yourself or you have a builder doing it? Thanks
@@itzlaetitia5161 I’m doing it my self I’m a carpenter a lot of it is how you know not what you know of doing it your self and put in the hard work before you start it’s a lot better as for instance getting all the wood from a sawmill I supposed to from builders merchants to save you have a lot of money because you’re cutting the middleman out which is what I done and also you can get bigger timbers can shop around to get of stuff as well like the windows or installation that is needed can you use seconds no point getting the new stuff and paying silly prices and doing the plumbing you self it’s all push fit now the only hard work is getting stuff up there for the outside passing it all up
Many thanks for your response and valuable information on sourcing materials.
@@benalexlily I hope your loft is constructed better than your sentences.
@@BadDhillon 😂😂😂
Builders/scaffolders are having a field day. I'm considering paying for carpentry/joinery course and do the frame myself 20k is madness when materials are likely 25% of that max.
The internal works I will do myself as well.
A lot can be saved by not doing a tin roof which is 5-6k when scaffolding can be around £500
Thanks for providing a cost breakdown of what is a market rate for a loft conversion. I'm more confident then ever I need to do the labour myself.
The only major plus I got is I secured empty home VAT which grants me 5%.
Whats going on now won't get better. Inflation is likely to cause everything to go up and builders will just keep those rates high with the excuse of inflation which is actually a minor cost of their total cost.
I wish you well m8 but some of those roofing cuts do get a bit complicated!
@@dannymurphy1779 Cheers, trial and error I suppose plus a few shots at night lol
I'm doing mine myself - 100%. I was quoted £48K. already costed out the materials an the shell comes to about £8000. Ordered the steels and starting in May
Can you guys give me your addresses so I can avoid ever buying your properties
Very helpful and an eye opener.
thank you for sharing your experience
The BIG question is how much did it add to the value of the property?
VAT registration threshold is £85k. And one can always voluntarily register. In other words, they might not have breached the limit.
I got ripped off on party wall agreement! Paid £1800. This was because I picked one who charged 950 then the neighbors disputed so I had to pay for an additional surveyor that represented the freeholder and lease holder 450 each x 2. £1800 total sigh...
Sorry to hear that. Party wall issue are the worst part of any project but at least you got the build done. I have heard many stories of issues dragging on for literally years 😣
Is it possible to differentiate between the material cost and the build cost? I.e. how much was the materials and how much was the labour for the shell?
Hi. Thanks for watching. We did not pay separately for the materials but we have done it before. I would estimate that the materials (steel beams, timber, tiles, windows, GRP etc) cost around £8k.
@@JoeBlogs thanks so much for your reply. Your videos have been very informative, anyone doing a loft should watch your loft conversion day 1 to 45 which provides very detaild description of work start to finish…made many notes for the builders before i agree the contract. I am at the paperwork stage with architect and structural drawings completed along with planning permission obtained, now looking for quotes…
Mine all in with finishings will be about 16k with out my time
Great series thank you. We are now in January 2022 and given all the news about increased material and to some degree labour costs do you think your cost now would be higher, and if so by how much? Thanks
I thought you could do a roof conversion with velux windows , was in permitted alterations under planning ?🤔👍👍
Thanks so much for this.
Thank you
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How much would a job like this cost in the North? Sheffield area. Same house style and roof type as in this video. Also same size. Anyone got an idea roughly? 57k is a lot but I reckong it's cheaper in the North to keep up with income difference?
Great thanks. We are just at the beginning and architect was over measuring last week. Can I ask where in the country this is as i know prices will vary based on location. We were hoping 45k for the build and fixtures.
Hi. Thanks for watching. These prices are based in London. You may be able to do it for less elsewhere. Have a look at my How ti Find a Builder Online video as it will give you some tips on how to get multiple quotes and find the best possible deal. 👍
We are buying a buying a bungalow. And want to convert the existing loft. Do we still have to pay for a shell or can we just use the existing one but sitter up the joists?
Very useful, thank you very much. Btw, what was the square footage ?
Thanks for watching and great feedback. The floor area was 6m x 5m = 30m2. The cubic space was 50m3.
you forgot the tin hat and scaffold cost.... 3 bed semi in the south is 6k plus
If we have an approved inspector doing the building control regs and has sent the initial final notice to the council, do we still need to request planning permission from the council or is the approved inspector covering that with the notice? We have an old attic that is getting redone abit
1. Did you hire the same builder to do the shell and the internal work?
2. Why no VAT on planning application fee but VAT applicable to building reg?
Hi. 1. Yes we did 2. The only item that was exempt from VAT was the planning application. Not sure why that is but that is the situation.
@@JoeBlogs Thanks. I happened to know government services including local government don't attract VAT. If you had to pay it, your local council has probably passed it to private sector (like a lot of other local services: bus service, recycling, school (meals, mainetance and cleaning), career advice and so on). It makes sense as planning is about appearences but building reg is specialised engineering. It hit me when you mentioned for this there is a choice of going to the council or private providers.
Loft is part of permitted development, why apply for permission (waste of money) ?
Hi. Thanks for watching and the great question. This property was semi-detached and had a massive loft. Under PD rules you are only allowed to add 40m3 however this space was far bigger - more like 50m3 - so we had to apply for planning permission.
about vat , why you must paid plus vat? biulder paid for job so why add vat? if I buying timber from wickes then add vat anyway,
Hi. Thanks for watching and the question. The UK government makes all companies of a certain size charge VAT so we had to pay it.
Great video. I didn’t think planning permission was needed for a loft conversion ??
I think if you're making visible changes to the roof from the outside like adding windows then you do. Not 100% though, I hear alot of planning varies county to county
anything structural does...they took out the joists and rafters, plus the external changes
how to get freeholders consent for the conversion if they aren't available on phone ?
I have seen some Dorma’s made of steel. Is wood equally good?
Yes timber is fine, more cost efficient and environmentally friendly 👍
Total cost is about £60k at 10:49
You still pay the VAT on materials so you wouldnt have saved the £9500, you probably would of saved half the vat by doing it yourself.
Hi, thanks for this. Does this price also cover the cost of the scaffolding?
re Vat because you are creating an extra habitable room doesn't VAT reduce to 5%?
Fraid not ☹️
What would be the Approx cost if you did all the work yourself?
50k - 60k is about right, and that's down South
😂 the outcome would be different if u did it lol but the thoughts there
18 days is absurd!Even loft companies allow 10 weeks+
This is nonsense
Proper English work ethic that 🤣 Chinese have that done in 10 days, couple bodies along the way.
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Seems like you paid too much