I’m think of Sierra for 95% of deck Coasta for the 3 inch trim around the deck top And the light grey as a trim on each step The women in my life don’t like the coasta as the 3 inch trim going around
I would like to see more about installing the product and how to deal with difficult situations. What options and/or components are available. And how to deal with temperature change and be able to hide the gaps.
A very good presentation of the types of Trex available. However, what I'd hoped to hear was 1) just how long the colors of Trex boarding look like new (since UVA & UVB blanches the color of everything) and 2) if there's any treatment compound which can be used to return long exposed Trex back to it's original color as carbonate will not naturally absorb stains into it's grain such as real wood does. I'd really appreciate knowing these issues. Thanks much!
The Fade and Stain Warranty is 25 Years. They will warranty their capped composite decking any time within that period if the color shift is greater than 5 Delta E units...which would be largely unnoticeable to the human eye even though 1 unit is technically possible to be noticeable. If you put a brand new board beside a 20 year old board that has shifted 4-5 units...you will be able to see a very slight shift in colour. To my knowledge, nothing is going to bring that colour back long term. There are of course generic plastic revitalizers on the market that would likely help in the short term, similar to products that you would use on car bumpers and such. However, my guess is you may be referring to older non-capped product that did not have a fade warranty and would noticeably fade in a short amount of time. There are "composite oils" that could be applied that would add a richness back to the board...but I believe there are very few reasons one should use them. Seems quite gimmicky to me...and now adds a level of maintenance to your deck that you weren't supposed to have. But if you're that insistent on trying to give it a refresh...they do typically make a small difference. Thanks for the questions!
From the US here, in north central Ohio. Nice video guys. We are trying to figure out how to build a new deck. Debating on composite vs wood. We had wood and tore it out for a water repair. It was in bed shape anyway. My number one concern is how slippery the composite may be when wet or slippery from cold in winter. I love the new composite colors in enhanced naturals. Foggy Warf or Rocky Harbor. But the wood was constantly needing updates, cleaning, etc. It would get green film and slippery. I had fallen on the stairs and broke my ankle a year ago in January. Bad break. So you see my dilemma and concern. Is there any composite with a non or less slippery surface? Thanks for all the information.
I work at the ProDesk at a 'Big Box' store, and our Trex guy told us the new line requires a 12" joist center. That's what I've been passing onto the Pros and DIYers when they order the Enhance (Basic or Naturals line).
So, I went to work today and checked the Trex Installation Guide. According to the book, 16" joist centers are still okay. I'm going to call the Trex representative on Monday (I couldn't get a hold of her today).
Sorry for the late reply! The rep is misinformed (about his own product :) ). 16" centers for residential application is all that is required for Trex's whole lineup included Enhanced. Of course 12" feels better under foot like all decking.
I had a customer in the other day with a piece of old decking they were trying to match, and they came in saying "we need to match this, we are pretty sure it's Trex." I took a quick look, turned it over, and said "it's Fiberon". They looked at me, "are you sure? How do you know?" I said " because of the style and depth of the embossing for one, but mostly because of the size and shape of the wood speck filler in the core of the board." I don't know if they thought I was serious or not until I should them some samples from current generation Trex and Fiberon...and then they just thought it was completely ridiculous that I knew what it was by looking at the specks inside the core of the board. What can I say, we nerd out on this stuff. :)
You guys are really funny ..anywhoos enjoyed the segment , been wanting to add a deck to my yard , have not a clue how it's done or the expense of it .. I can only dream I guess.. but thanks for showing the 2019 line ..
Thanks Julieanna! With these "Show" segments, we are trying to do a little more than just show the boards. Trying to give more of a light, entertaining feel to it. So thank you for that feedback!
Yes there are certainly some very attractive colours coming at some great price points! All else equal, people do prefer solid boards yes. But the price points usually entice a lot of people. Thanks for the comment!
Comparing Trex Transcend (probably earth tones) vs. TimberTech/Azec Harvest. We are installing this deck around a pool and are wondering how much more slip resistant Harvest is than Transcend. What would you recommend? Thanks.
Harvest will outperform Transcend on the traction metric. If I had to rate them on a scale of 10, I would say Harvest is a 7/10 for slip resistance, while Transcend would be a 5/10 at best.
Have you installed any coastal bluff since recording this? How has coastal bluff proven to hold up-especially with fading and scratching? Considering it or spiced rum and with the price difference would love to hear your thoughts.
Hi Kendra. Yes we have sold quite a bit of the Enhance line from Trex over the past year and a bit...mostly Foggy Wharf and Rocky Habor...but a bit of Coastal Bluff as well. We haven't had any issues with it. The fading is warranties so that should be fairly safe and consistent between C.B. and Spiced Rum. But Spiced Rum will for sure be a more durable option. The Trex Transcend line that Spiced Rum is in, is one of the most durable products in the market. I would give it a 9/10 for scratch resistance, while the Enhance line would be around a 4/10. Hope that helps!
@@SoTrue144 We have sold a ton of Enhance line over the last 2 years. No issues to report as of this time. A little bit of minor board curling in the first runs but has since been solved with a profile change. Pretty rock solid now.
No you don't need to worry. Yes it scratches much easier than Transcend...Transcend is VERY durable. But in actual use, it's unlikely to get to scratched up. Eventually it will happen no matter what you choose. The first car door ding is the hardest. :)
Quality and durability wise what is the difference between select and enhance? Why is Transcend more better? Is quality that much better? Don’t understand the pricing?
Quality and durability are comparable between Enhance and Select. Enhance Naturals are much nicer looking, but Select has some unique colors and a 7/8" thickness plank with no scalloping, so therefore hidden fasteners like Cortex plugs are available. Transcend is a noticeable step up yes. It's a full 1" thick board, has a much more durable and thicker cap, beautiful colors. It is a big price jump up from Select and Enhance, but if the budget is available, it for sure has its benefits. But if you're on a budget, then Enhance offers an incredible value.
@@ruchio Your welcome! I think you're best bet is to look at both Saddle options and see which grain pattern you prefer. Also, if you're planning to use a companion color with it as a picture frame or something, then Select will give you a dark brown option in Woodland Brown, whereas Enhance will give you a light brown option in Beach Dune. And the final factor is whether you care about hiding the screws with Fastenmaster Cortex plugs for not...if so, then Select it is!
Can you comment on any preference between fully capped and partial capped boards? Heard mixed thoughts on whether it’s more important for more protection or to allow the core to breath.
The boards core most certainly does NOT need to breath. In 95% of instances, the capping of the backside is irrelevant. However, in situations where the bottom of the boards will not have proper ventilation...like a ground level deck or on a dock, then it would be important to be protected on the backside to make sure the wood flour component does not absorb moisture which would potentially result in failure.
@@TheUltimateDeckShop Thanks for the reply. Any thoughts of product performance between Trex Transcend and Fiberon Symmetry & Horizon lines? Love the look of the Fiberon (trex just ok), but most of the local deck builders seem to recommend Trex. Difficult to determine if that is just out of familiarity or if there is a real performance difference.
@@vanb0057 I would say their position is based 99% on familiarity and brand power. Trex and Fiberon both make good products. In fact Fiberon was the first brand to market with a capped composite, first to market with a 25 year fade and stain warranty, and first to market with variagtated colours. All 3 of those things are now commonplace in every good brand of decking, and Fiberon lead the way. Now... Trex Transcend vs Fiberon Horizon. Transcend will be more durable and not be quite as slippery. It has more aggressive streaking in the Tropical line as well. Fiberon Horizon is beautiful. Likely one of the nicest looking lines out there. The sweeping colours are second to none. But the line is quite slippery especially when wet, and scratches show up quite easily because of the very smooth surface. Fiberon is capped on all sides which MAY be a benefit depending on the install scenario. Warranties are nearly identical, 25 Years Fade, Stain, and Structural on both...there is an option for a Labour Warranty from Fiberon as well if you have it installed by an approved volume installer. In the end, they are both good products. Go with Trex Transcend for the durability and slightly better traction (althought still a bit slippery)...go with Fiberon if you love the colouring or need the fully wrapped boards (ground level deck or dock).
Thank you! Both grooved and solid edge boards are made in 12', 16', and 20' lengths; however many markets do not carry all of the solid dimensions. Most commonly you will find only 20' lengths in the solid edge boards. Fascia and Riser dimensions are 12' only.
Picture framing is an attractive way to finish a deck regardless of brand for sure! And yes nothing stopping anyone from mixing Transcend and Tropicals...it can look great!
great episode! I wish you guys could shed some lights, comments on a company called Leadvision, they are in Quebec but their composite decking is made in china. They sell in Rona about $3, $2.5 on sale, but I couldn't find any review on them anywhere, wonder if you guys heard of this company or what do you think, many thanks.
Not to mention probably not accepted by local building officials. It would be a shame to install the whole thing and to find out it burns like a tire and spreads like it's made of gasoline!
@@aaronreed9863 Yes. Generally with decking, you get what you pay for. Those super cheap Chinese box store planks are garbage 99% of the time. Super soft, scratches looking at it, cap peels off, sagging, etc.
@@TheUltimateDeckShop Hi, while we are Chinese-made, we take pride in the quality of our product. We would love for you to check out our products. Let us know if we can send you some samples for you guys to look at.
You can install Trex at any temperature but you need to be aware of the potential for expansion when temperatures increase. For example, if you're installing on a super hot summer day, you can butt boards fairly tight, but if installing in the middle of winter, leave 1/4" expansion gap
It's adds an additional second.of thought but it's rarely an issue. Fiberon and TimberTech have had scalloped boards for years with no issues on stairs. Granted Trex scallops are skinnier and more of them, but even the thin part of the board seems to have enough strength to support the nosing reveal.
Parr in oregon recommends treads to be no more then 9 inches on center. A bit overkill. Trex came out with less of a scallop tooken out due to the product cupping. Lay this decking at 12 inches on center you can feel the flex of the decking when the frame is 16 OC
@@pistolpete5356 I believe he may have been referring to the nosing on stairs with a scalloped board? But yes 12" OC is a good "upgrade" to consider with most plastic decking products.
Unless you are a catcher on a baseball team, wear your hat with the bill in front. It is there to block the sun. Plus, don't wear it inside in any case.
Bought a house with trex. Its awful stuff. Faded bad and looks dirty all the time. Unbelievably hot to the point we are unable to use the deck most of the time. It was a selling point and looked nice when we bought. Now I'm stuck breaking my back, spending my money and time ripping it out. Very disappointed.
It sounds like you may have the first generation Trex that did not have the protective cap layer. The issues you speak of have been long resolved... with the exception of the heat. They do still get hot in the hot sun for sure. But the fading and dirtiness are a thing of the past. Thank you for the comment!
Trex plastic decking and all the others actually look OK ...if you stand about 10 yards away. When you stand next to it - they all look like plastic sticks- which is what they are. Great that they do not need much care, but you still have to walk on it and look at it- Ugly! Sorry, but I cannot believe anyone would put that on their deck. But, hey different strokes and all. Maybe take a look at the bamboo composite decking - it actually is mostly a wood product so it looks like it- very nice looking and eco friendly. That is the only product I have seen that is good enough to have on a deck surface instead of actual hardwood. Care is very low too- wash and reseal every 2-4 years depending on climate & conditions. Just my 2 cents.
Thank you for the feedback. The plastic look is very subjective and depends on the product. A board like Trex Enhance Saddle...yeah that looks very plasticy. Azek Mahogany? Most people can't tell it apart from hardwoods without touching it. Higher end boards replicate the look of wood much better than low cost stuff. As to bamboo WPC composites, it's just another type of wood (grass) filler. No more or no less wood than other wood plastic composites. And the benefits are debatable. Everyone has their formula. For a composite that really has a distinct advantage in their formula, look at Deckorators Voyage...no organic material at all...and beautiful!
These boards are all break strength tested to well exceed requirements. However, larger dogs with claws can scratch the decking. Some lines are more durable than others. For example, the new Enhance Basic lines would scratch much easier than the Transcend line. Durability is part of the value of the higher priced boards.
Wood is and will always be the best way to decking !!!! Time will tell just like everything related to houses , like old victorian solid . Deck wood planks are easier to change on demand and will always have some in stock . Composite, go ahead for the rich lazy baste...
@@TheUltimateDeckShop, if i was rich i would not even be here commenting, stats are that people didnt ask nor need expensive new stuff that blows there banks , but big corps want to steel there money
@@highlander-toy Not sure which stats you're referring to, but people absolutely WANT maintenance free decking. Of course it's a want, not a need. But so is a deck itself. 99.8% of people we talk to want a maintenance free deck. Not everyone can afford it of course.
Trex is a horrible product that does not stand up. It is VERY prone to bending and warping. Talk to a contractor that has used it and you'll find out. Trex used to be the only option, but there are much better options in the market now.
We were contractors that have used plenty of Trex on plenty of decks before we made the move to retail. Can't say we agree with your experience. Certainly Trex has had their fair share of issues in the past, and certainly every manufacture experiences quality issues from time to time. But a broad generalization of the entire current product line isn't fair, IMO. As for better products, yes, there are a number of great products out there...some which have made some advancements for sure. Thanks for the comment!
Get your act together. Organize your presentation and quit the extraneous comments. You could mention prices of the various samples, how price compares to quality of their product.
It's tough to read between the lines for sure Duane, but somewhere in there are references to quality. Specific prices aren't relevant as every market and exchange rate is different, so saying something is $2 would leave a lot of people with incorrect info because it wouldn't be $2 in their market. We have clearly identified the tiers in the video. Maybe if you can find time, watch again! Sometimes you gotta watch a movie a couple times to catch the story line. Especially if it stars Nicolas Cage. Or us. Thanks using your valuable time to set us straight! Back to making vids for everyone else for us!
Check out our UPDATED Trex 2019 Lineup show here: ua-cam.com/video/nEpdcdaZV4M/v-deo.html
And now a 2020 edition is available!
I’m think of Sierra for 95% of deck
Coasta for the 3 inch trim around the deck top
And the light grey as a trim on each step
The women in my life don’t like the coasta as the 3 inch trim going around
I would like to see more about installing the product and how to deal with difficult situations. What options and/or components are available. And how to deal with temperature change and be able to hide the gaps.
Thanks for the feedback. We will be working on more videos this winter!
A very good presentation of the types of Trex available. However, what I'd hoped to hear was 1) just how long the colors of Trex boarding look like new (since UVA & UVB blanches the color of everything) and 2) if there's any treatment compound which can be used to return long exposed Trex back to it's original color as carbonate will not naturally absorb stains into it's grain such as real wood does. I'd really appreciate knowing these issues. Thanks much!
The Fade and Stain Warranty is 25 Years. They will warranty their capped composite decking any time within that period if the color shift is greater than 5 Delta E units...which would be largely unnoticeable to the human eye even though 1 unit is technically possible to be noticeable. If you put a brand new board beside a 20 year old board that has shifted 4-5 units...you will be able to see a very slight shift in colour. To my knowledge, nothing is going to bring that colour back long term. There are of course generic plastic revitalizers on the market that would likely help in the short term, similar to products that you would use on car bumpers and such. However, my guess is you may be referring to older non-capped product that did not have a fade warranty and would noticeably fade in a short amount of time. There are "composite oils" that could be applied that would add a richness back to the board...but I believe there are very few reasons one should use them. Seems quite gimmicky to me...and now adds a level of maintenance to your deck that you weren't supposed to have. But if you're that insistent on trying to give it a refresh...they do typically make a small difference. Thanks for the questions!
Thanks for going through the differences in the Trex line-up, and completely agree on the name. For the most part the names are almost worthless.
Thanks John!
Great show, fun time and learned a lot. Recommend using joist tape or not
Great! And yes we recommend joist tape. Cheap insurance to help your frame last longer.
From the US here, in north central Ohio. Nice video guys. We are trying to figure out how to build a new deck. Debating on composite vs wood. We had wood and tore it out for a water repair. It was in bed shape anyway. My number one concern is how slippery the composite may be when wet or slippery from cold in winter. I love the new composite colors in enhanced naturals. Foggy Warf or Rocky Harbor. But the wood was constantly needing updates, cleaning, etc. It would get green film and slippery. I had fallen on the stairs and broke my ankle a year ago in January. Bad break. So you see my dilemma and concern. Is there any composite with a non or less slippery surface? Thanks for all the information.
Great information guys. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Happy it helped!
I work at the ProDesk at a 'Big Box' store, and our Trex guy told us the new line requires a 12" joist center. That's what I've been passing onto the Pros and DIYers when they order the Enhance (Basic or Naturals line).
So, I went to work today and checked the Trex Installation Guide. According to the book, 16" joist centers are still okay. I'm going to call the Trex representative on Monday (I couldn't get a hold of her today).
Sorry for the late reply! The rep is misinformed (about his own product :) ). 16" centers for residential application is all that is required for Trex's whole lineup included Enhanced. Of course 12" feels better under foot like all decking.
Love the show.....comp decking is gaining popularity in Australia!!! Still very pricey thou compared to Canada and US
Yes, TimberTech seems to be making inroads into Australia!
OCD level 10! Good to know about the grain.
I had a customer in the other day with a piece of old decking they were trying to match, and they came in saying "we need to match this, we are pretty sure it's Trex." I took a quick look, turned it over, and said "it's Fiberon". They looked at me, "are you sure? How do you know?" I said " because of the style and depth of the embossing for one, but mostly because of the size and shape of the wood speck filler in the core of the board." I don't know if they thought I was serious or not until I should them some samples from current generation Trex and Fiberon...and then they just thought it was completely ridiculous that I knew what it was by looking at the specks inside the core of the board. What can I say, we nerd out on this stuff. :)
You guys are really funny ..anywhoos enjoyed the segment , been wanting to add a deck to my yard , have not a clue how it's done or the expense of it .. I can only dream I guess.. but thanks for showing the 2019 line ..
Thanks Julieanna! With these "Show" segments, we are trying to do a little more than just show the boards. Trying to give more of a light, entertaining feel to it. So thank you for that feedback!
Great show! The new naturals colors are nice. I think people will always gravitate more towards the solid profile board if they are side by side
Yes there are certainly some very attractive colours coming at some great price points! All else equal, people do prefer solid boards yes. But the price points usually entice a lot of people. Thanks for the comment!
Very entertaining. Thanks boys!
Thank YOU!
Comparing Trex Transcend (probably earth tones) vs. TimberTech/Azec Harvest. We are installing this deck around a pool and are wondering how much more slip resistant Harvest is than Transcend. What would you recommend? Thanks.
Harvest will outperform Transcend on the traction metric. If I had to rate them on a scale of 10, I would say Harvest is a 7/10 for slip resistance, while Transcend would be a 5/10 at best.
Have you installed any coastal bluff since recording this? How has coastal bluff proven to hold up-especially with fading and scratching? Considering it or spiced rum and with the price difference would love to hear your thoughts.
Hi Kendra. Yes we have sold quite a bit of the Enhance line from Trex over the past year and a bit...mostly Foggy Wharf and Rocky Habor...but a bit of Coastal Bluff as well. We haven't had any issues with it. The fading is warranties so that should be fairly safe and consistent between C.B. and Spiced Rum. But Spiced Rum will for sure be a more durable option. The Trex Transcend line that Spiced Rum is in, is one of the most durable products in the market. I would give it a 9/10 for scratch resistance, while the Enhance line would be around a 4/10. Hope that helps!
How did the coastal bluff install go?
@@SoTrue144 We have sold a ton of Enhance line over the last 2 years. No issues to report as of this time. A little bit of minor board curling in the first runs but has since been solved with a profile change. Pretty rock solid now.
I want to buy rocky harbor but it’s only a one star on scratches
Do I need to worry? Vs the high end ?
No you don't need to worry. Yes it scratches much easier than Transcend...Transcend is VERY durable. But in actual use, it's unlikely to get to scratched up. Eventually it will happen no matter what you choose. The first car door ding is the hardest. :)
Quality and durability wise what is the difference between select and enhance? Why is Transcend more better? Is quality that much better? Don’t understand the pricing?
Quality and durability are comparable between Enhance and Select. Enhance Naturals are much nicer looking, but Select has some unique colors and a 7/8" thickness plank with no scalloping, so therefore hidden fasteners like Cortex plugs are available. Transcend is a noticeable step up yes. It's a full 1" thick board, has a much more durable and thicker cap, beautiful colors. It is a big price jump up from Select and Enhance, but if the budget is available, it for sure has its benefits. But if you're on a budget, then Enhance offers an incredible value.
The Ultimate Deck Shop thanks for your response. Considering Saddle, which comes in both Enhance and Select
@@ruchio Your welcome! I think you're best bet is to look at both Saddle options and see which grain pattern you prefer. Also, if you're planning to use a companion color with it as a picture frame or something, then Select will give you a dark brown option in Woodland Brown, whereas Enhance will give you a light brown option in Beach Dune. And the final factor is whether you care about hiding the screws with Fastenmaster Cortex plugs for not...if so, then Select it is!
Keep in mind too that the price of Enhance Saddle should be quite a bit less than Select Saddle as well!
Can you comment on any preference between fully capped and partial capped boards? Heard mixed thoughts on whether it’s more important for more protection or to allow the core to breath.
The boards core most certainly does NOT need to breath. In 95% of instances, the capping of the backside is irrelevant. However, in situations where the bottom of the boards will not have proper ventilation...like a ground level deck or on a dock, then it would be important to be protected on the backside to make sure the wood flour component does not absorb moisture which would potentially result in failure.
@@TheUltimateDeckShop Thanks for the reply. Any thoughts of product performance between Trex Transcend and Fiberon Symmetry & Horizon lines? Love the look of the Fiberon (trex just ok), but most of the local deck builders seem to recommend Trex. Difficult to determine if that is just out of familiarity or if there is a real performance difference.
@@vanb0057 I would say their position is based 99% on familiarity and brand power. Trex and Fiberon both make good products. In fact Fiberon was the first brand to market with a capped composite, first to market with a 25 year fade and stain warranty, and first to market with variagtated colours. All 3 of those things are now commonplace in every good brand of decking, and Fiberon lead the way.
Now... Trex Transcend vs Fiberon Horizon. Transcend will be more durable and not be quite as slippery. It has more aggressive streaking in the Tropical line as well. Fiberon Horizon is beautiful. Likely one of the nicest looking lines out there. The sweeping colours are second to none. But the line is quite slippery especially when wet, and scratches show up quite easily because of the very smooth surface. Fiberon is capped on all sides which MAY be a benefit depending on the install scenario. Warranties are nearly identical, 25 Years Fade, Stain, and Structural on both...there is an option for a Labour Warranty from Fiberon as well if you have it installed by an approved volume installer.
In the end, they are both good products. Go with Trex Transcend for the durability and slightly better traction (althought still a bit slippery)...go with Fiberon if you love the colouring or need the fully wrapped boards (ground level deck or dock).
Great show, and lots of nice info.. What are the options on grooved vs solid boards for picture framing?
Thank you! Both grooved and solid edge boards are made in 12', 16', and 20' lengths; however many markets do not carry all of the solid dimensions. Most commonly you will find only 20' lengths in the solid edge boards. Fascia and Riser dimensions are 12' only.
Apologies, I must have been logged into my personal account for the response below.
How about picture framing in the transcend in the earth tones and the tropicals
Picture framing is an attractive way to finish a deck regardless of brand for sure! And yes nothing stopping anyone from mixing Transcend and Tropicals...it can look great!
great episode! I wish you guys could shed some lights, comments on a company called Leadvision, they are in Quebec but their composite decking is made in china. They sell in Rona about $3, $2.5 on sale, but I couldn't find any review on them anywhere, wonder if you guys heard of this company or what do you think, many thanks.
We have not had any experience with it. But the quality of many composites coming from China and being sold in box stores is poor.
Not to mention probably not accepted by local building officials. It would be a shame to install the whole thing and to find out it burns like a tire and spreads like it's made of gasoline!
@@aaronreed9863 Yes. Generally with decking, you get what you pay for. Those super cheap Chinese box store planks are garbage 99% of the time. Super soft, scratches looking at it, cap peels off, sagging, etc.
@@TheUltimateDeckShop Hi, while we are Chinese-made, we take pride in the quality of our product. We would love for you to check out our products. Let us know if we can send you some samples for you guys to look at.
NewTechWood Decking screw Chinese products. They suck on all levele
How cold is to cold to install the Trex decking?
You can install Trex at any temperature but you need to be aware of the potential for expansion when temperatures increase. For example, if you're installing on a super hot summer day, you can butt boards fairly tight, but if installing in the middle of winter, leave 1/4" expansion gap
Boom.
Shaka laka!
How do you guys deal with the scalloped decking when it comes to steps?
It's adds an additional second.of thought but it's rarely an issue. Fiberon and TimberTech have had scalloped boards for years with no issues on stairs. Granted Trex scallops are skinnier and more of them, but even the thin part of the board seems to have enough strength to support the nosing reveal.
Parr in oregon recommends treads to be no more then 9 inches on center. A bit overkill. Trex came out with less of a scallop tooken out due to the product cupping. Lay this decking at 12 inches on center you can feel the flex of the decking when the frame is 16 OC
@@pistolpete5356 I believe he may have been referring to the nosing on stairs with a scalloped board? But yes 12" OC is a good "upgrade" to consider with most plastic decking products.
Unless you are a catcher on a baseball team, wear your hat with the bill in front. It is there to block the sun. Plus, don't wear it inside in any case.
Thanks for the tip Karen!
Will they not stain anymore?
Correct, they have a 25 Year Fade and Stain Warranty.
Bought a house with trex. Its awful stuff. Faded bad and looks dirty all the time. Unbelievably hot to the point we are unable to use the deck most of the time. It was a selling point and looked nice when we bought. Now I'm stuck breaking my back, spending my money and time ripping it out. Very disappointed.
It sounds like you may have the first generation Trex that did not have the protective cap layer. The issues you speak of have been long resolved... with the exception of the heat. They do still get hot in the hot sun for sure. But the fading and dirtiness are a thing of the past. Thank you for the comment!
This is so confusing. I need a diagram.
Trex plastic decking and all the others actually look OK ...if you stand about 10 yards away. When you stand next to it - they all look like plastic sticks- which is what they are. Great that they do not need much care, but you still have to walk on it and look at it- Ugly! Sorry, but I cannot believe anyone would put that on their deck. But, hey different strokes and all. Maybe take a look at the bamboo composite decking - it actually is mostly a wood product so it looks like it- very nice looking and eco friendly. That is the only product I have seen that is good enough to have on a deck surface instead of actual hardwood. Care is very low too- wash and reseal every 2-4 years depending on climate & conditions. Just my 2 cents.
Thank you for the feedback. The plastic look is very subjective and depends on the product. A board like Trex Enhance Saddle...yeah that looks very plasticy. Azek Mahogany? Most people can't tell it apart from hardwoods without touching it. Higher end boards replicate the look of wood much better than low cost stuff. As to bamboo WPC composites, it's just another type of wood (grass) filler. No more or no less wood than other wood plastic composites. And the benefits are debatable. Everyone has their formula. For a composite that really has a distinct advantage in their formula, look at Deckorators Voyage...no organic material at all...and beautiful!
how do these boards stand up to overweight dogs with overly long untrimmed nails.
These boards are all break strength tested to well exceed requirements. However, larger dogs with claws can scratch the decking. Some lines are more durable than others. For example, the new Enhance Basic lines would scratch much easier than the Transcend line. Durability is part of the value of the higher priced boards.
Wood is and will always be the best way to decking !!!! Time will tell just like everything related to houses , like old victorian solid .
Deck wood planks are easier to change on demand and will always have some in stock .
Composite, go ahead for the rich lazy baste...
To each their own, but the market is certainly moving heavily toward the synthetics. Wood will always be an option...but a shrinking segment for sure.
@@TheUltimateDeckShop, if i was rich i would not even be here commenting, stats are that people didnt ask nor need expensive new stuff that blows there banks , but big corps want to steel there money
@@highlander-toy Not sure which stats you're referring to, but people absolutely WANT maintenance free decking. Of course it's a want, not a need. But so is a deck itself. 99.8% of people we talk to want a maintenance free deck. Not everyone can afford it of course.
Trex is a horrible product that does not stand up. It is VERY prone to bending and warping. Talk to a contractor that has used it and you'll find out. Trex used to be the only option, but there are much better options in the market now.
We were contractors that have used plenty of Trex on plenty of decks before we made the move to retail. Can't say we agree with your experience. Certainly Trex has had their fair share of issues in the past, and certainly every manufacture experiences quality issues from time to time. But a broad generalization of the entire current product line isn't fair, IMO. As for better products, yes, there are a number of great products out there...some which have made some advancements for sure. Thanks for the comment!
Dear Canadians...can you just show the F@#$% boards for Christ sake. Jesus Effing Christ.
Yes. If you ask nicely.
Producer pat needs a new job
We have a new producer now. 😁
Get your act together. Organize your presentation and quit the extraneous comments. You could mention prices of the various samples, how price compares to quality of their product.
It's tough to read between the lines for sure Duane, but somewhere in there are references to quality. Specific prices aren't relevant as every market and exchange rate is different, so saying something is $2 would leave a lot of people with incorrect info because it wouldn't be $2 in their market. We have clearly identified the tiers in the video. Maybe if you can find time, watch again! Sometimes you gotta watch a movie a couple times to catch the story line. Especially if it stars Nicolas Cage. Or us. Thanks using your valuable time to set us straight!
Back to making vids for everyone else for us!
The Ultimate Deck Shop lol ya haha