I swear, it is good to be learned. It is good to be a thorough researcher. It is good to be exposed. It is good to be eloquent. It is good to be fair. Your guests are highly learned.
I think that is the same point Chief Ariyo was trying to make. Oduduwa is recognized by the Yorubas as their progenitor, if we say he was a Benin prince that would mean he is of Edo Origin, therefore an Olu whose mom is Yoruba is on the right track. He also tried to highlight the other side of the argument by historians, however he stated in conclusion that they all mean the same thing in this instance.
There is only one recognized Olu of Warri and that’s Tsola Emiko! Ayiri emami and his cohorts are only grasping at straws! Tsola is chosen by the people, by God and we the people of itsekiri kingdom are behind him! August 21, a new king is crowned, and that king Is Tsola Emiko!
@@genuinediasporan he said he is the direct son of Oranmiyan, the son of Oduduwa whom the Binis of that era knew as Ikaladeran, a self exile Benin Prince who became a king in Ife. The Binis know Oduduwa and his origin, but it’s not in our space to force this recognition on people outside our boundaries. Stop getting the king’s words twisted!
These comments are exciting. History is exciting. Some of the names here remind me of primary school. Nigeria needs to do more in documenting our history abeg
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
it is simple, Tshola's mum is an ife princess(Daughter of the late ooni of ife) automatically making her a descendant of Oranmiyan who according to Edo traditon is of Edo origin. Tshola's mum is of Edo Origin.
Adesua did not correct anything. There is an ongoing controversy concerning Oduduwa. Both Edos and Benis claim Oduduwa and the Oba of Benin made reference to Oduduwa. So the Lawyer was just saying there is no difference between six and half a dozen. It doesn't matter if Edos gave birth to Yorubas or Yorubas gave birth to Edos.
@@iyamuimuetinyan1326 It must be follow what? That a prince of Yoruba mother cannot be Olu? Is an edict by a military governor superior to the culture and history of a people. Most Itsekiris do not support that edict. Ayiri and his supporters are a vocal minority on this issue.
That same uneducated man is the only Itsekiri man doing the right thing today... Imagine if the Oba of Benin title is given to the last born of Oba Akenzua rather than what the history and tradition say? BE WISE BRO!
@@brandiator-io you are a very, very big liar! The young man was sidelined in 2015 and now the family decided to do the right thing and return the crown to the rightful owner and you are here talking rubbish! You know better than the family now right? Destiny has spoken so please be calming down ok. The right man is on the throne! They tried to swindle the ancestors in 2015 but God is more than any man. He holds the final say!!!
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
@@teetee6366 when did the Oba went to pay homage? The only time the Oba went to ife, was a thank you visit after his coronation. He visited traditional rulers across the country not just the ooni. It’s undisputed they share the same ancestor, so he has every right to visit. The only complication is the story of Oduduwa or Izoduwa. Nobody is forcing history on your throat. I am an Edo man and my allegiance is to the throne and whoever sits on it. Our history was not forced on us but passed down to us by our ancestors. Monarchs of Southern part of Nigeria before the arrival of Europeans are all related. Same thing with the Monarchs of kingdoms in Europe. There’s nothing wrong in that.
@@hillaryogie4353 "Royal Visit Ooni of Ife, Oba of Benin Seek End To Killings, Human Trafficking" Search that title on UA-cam and listen to the report. Revert back here to tell me it was a mere thank you visit. Did our Oba of Benin also pay the same homage at the palace of the Sultan?? Having said that, there is no such thing as an Izoduwa fleeing to Ife in our history. Academic and professional historians all over the world have demonstrated that such doesn't exist in Benin history prior to the 1970s. It's a made up falsehood that was fabricated in the 1970s and was first announced to the Edo world by Omonoba Erediauwa during his coronation ceremony of 1978-9.
@@teetee6366 it was a thank you visit after his coronation. He visited Olu of Warri, traditional rulers of river state, emirs, sultan, etc. not just Ife sir. Research properly. Like I said earlier, you’re not an Edo. It’s very obvious. You saying it was a fabricated story in 70s says it all. It has always been an oral history. You only get to hear it from Oba Eradiauwa because after invasion by the British, the kingdom was destabilized. The new entity called Nigeria was amalgamated after the death of Oba Ovonramwen in Calabar. The kingdom became part of western region and became toothless, voiceless and powerless. When Awolowo became premier of the western region, he wanted to unite all the kingdom in the region and told the then Oba to go learn Yoruba. The kingdom was subjected to a Yoruba premiere who wanted to unite the region under one Yoruba nation. All that ended with the creation of Midwestern region. Note; the word “Yoruba” was not used to address all the kingdoms of South West. The word was used to address people of old OYO by the Hausas and Fulani. Which is Yariba. There were different kingdoms and empires and Ife language was Edekiri. Ife remained a kingdom and Bini and OYO grown and became an empire. No ruler was addressed as Oba before, except Oba of Benin. There is no record of war between Ife and Igodomigodo. Do you think as strong as igodomigodo, an Ife Prince will come and rule without conquest if there were no relationship between the kingdoms? It has always been an oral history in every home in Edo.
Thank you very much Adesuwa for that correction, the great OBA of the Benin kingdom has never said that. As a matter of fact Many kingdom are inside the great Benin Empire, not the other way round.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Please, list the ‘many kingdoms’? What Chief Ariyo was saying is that if Edo are from Ife as we Yoruba belief or Yoruba from Benin, as Edo people belief, the fact remains that Yoruba and Edo people are closely related! When the Itshekiris speak, it seems to me they are speaking Ondo, which is a dialect in Yoruba land! I thought that edict was manipulated by the Edo people in the then Bendel State, by so doing, there won’t be any connection whats so ever with Yoruba but for Edo to Lord over them. The edict was hideous to say the least!
Mr. man before you embarrass yourself, Check that same video here on UA-cam. The Oba spoke about the 2nd Dynasty of king where our son Ekhaladeran known by yourbas as Oduduwa was requested to return to his throne after he was earlier bannished.... He refused to return but sent his son Oranmiyan. THIS IS THE LINK WITH YORUBA. YOUR OONI IS OUR SON. ... PERIOD
And Oba of Benin never call him Elkaladehan and prefer to call him Oduduwa that Yoruba people call him and you can never find that Elkaladehan in Oba of Benin palace even when Oba of Benin doing festival still call him Oduduwa instead of Elkaladehan.. 👏
@@walecheroke: If Ekaladeran is called Ododuwa because that is the name he became known with/for after his sojourn in Ile-Ife from Bini, doesn't it really make any difference? That Ododuwa came from the sky is no longer being promoted anymore. And that Ododuwa came from east of Ife and that Bini was geographically interpreted to be east of Ife is as a matter of fact no longer a subject of dispute. My brother, there is no point dragging issue that is evidential and fact-based.
You all keep deceiving yourself about the fallacy that Ekhaladeran turned Oduduwa. The only link we had is through Oranmiyan from Ile Ife who had absolutely nothing to do with Idu Igodomigodo. We introduced Obaship into that land. Go and read about ekiokpagha treaty so that your eyes will be open to now that Ekaladehran turned Oduduwa is just a fallacy, just for the Oba dynasty to save their throne.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
@@teetee6366 Oba Ewuare is a Bini man. His father and his mother are pure Binis. His late father is also a Bini man, because his father and mother are Binis. Oba Ewuare great, great grand father is a Yoruba man, does not make him a yoruba man. Also, he came out from a Bini woman womb. He is a pure Bini man.
The 2015 deselection of Tsola was a miscarriage of justice but now need to be corrected. In so many jurisdictions where there had been miscarriage of justice and after so many years, if there are new evidence/s that prove that the person convicted was Inocent, the person is released immediately and substantially compensated depending on how long he/she had been incarcerated.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
It will be better for those who are still in doubt of the origin of Benin Kingdom to listen to the present Oba of Benin speech during his coronation. According to his opening speech he stated that "As the 40th Oba of Benin: a direct descendant of Oromiyan the son of Oduduwa whom the Benin people of that time knew as Kadiran". Based on his statement it is obvious that Benin people are descendant of Yoruba.
Benin people lived in Igodomigodo for 960 years and were ruled by Ogisos before Oduduwa was born. Oba of Benin never said Benin people are from Yoruba. He said he is a descendant of Ekaladerhan who Yorubas call Oduduwa. In Benin history, Ekaladerhan who yorubas call Oduduwa was an exiled Benin Prince who changed his name to Izoduwa. He was the only son of the last Ogiso, Owodo. He gave birth to Oranmiyan.
How can you say the Binis are from lfe? Who gave you chieftency tittle did not tell you that the itsekiri were part of ancient Bini kingdom. If truly you known your history, have you ask yourself who are the original owner of names like Uhunwangue,Ogiamen and other typical Bini Names?
They all called Edo/Benin kingdom over issues that concerns olu of warri yet they say we're not important! They all confusing themselves with myths over facts.
You are very funny, since you guys confusion started, have you ever see any edo people interfer in itsekiri nonsense, you guys are the once dragging edo into it, we don't operate political throne in benin Kingdom, we don't have any business with political king. You guys should count us out.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
You're not a sound lawyer.. Because Edo people are also known as Benin people. In addition, the name Edo has been in existence for over 800 years. Oba of Great Benin Kingdom never said that Edo or Benin people are from Ife.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
I have listened to both interviews but I must say here that things should be done properly cos a Throne is not a political appointment. When due process is not being followed the end results are not pleasant. We pray for Peace, Unity and Progress for the Itsekiri Nation.
The lawyer was trying to be clever by half; firstly he delibrately misquoted Oba Eware II and secondly he pretended not to know that Edo was synonymously used in place of Bini.
Ajibola is a Yoruba name and Omoruyi is an Edo name that should explain that there is connection between Itshekiri, Yoruba and Edo. When you see some Itshekiri names you here Yoruba names there too I have never here Itshekiri and Edo names incorporated to Yoruba name I think this should explain everything anyone with good critical thing will understand me.
@@godwinejiofor8064: If only I could get the basis of your argument or comment and what it has got to do with my comment namely that the lawyer delibrately misquoted Oba Eware II.
The itsekiri should not drag us into their epileptic nonsense, the oba of Benin never said the benins are from yoruba, we are not yoruba, edo is a tribe, and benin is an empire, they should stay away from benin, before their confused becomes permanent.
What does Benin mean in Edo? I am curious. Oba Benin in his coronation actually never said Benin people are Yoruba but said the present dynasty of Benin is of Yoruba- Ife origin. It's on your UA-cam right now.
@@genuinediasporan oba of benin never said benin are yoruba, he said and I quote, I am a direct descendants of oromiyan, the son of oduduwa, who the benin of that era know as ekaladerhan the benin exile Prince who became oduduwa in ife. I believe that's self explained to all.
@@choicelinus0076 Did I say anything contradictory regarding Oduduwa or whatever later giving to him? It appeared we are on the same page except in the area of Dynasty. Dynastically the present " Oba" could not be said to be of " Ogiso" Dynasty. The present Dynasty is closely tie to Ife- Yoruba,both culturally and spiritually.
@@genuinediasporan what do you mean, who's ekaladerhan, is he not the son of ogiso owodo, nothing changed, we know our history, we are not yoruba, we know our relationship with the yoruba. They have their own believe of oduduwa, we have our own believe of oduduwa, let everyone stick to their beliefs.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Good, but you guys should leave Edo out of your APC/PDP kind of kingship Edo pple will never distort their tradition to make way for someone to be king.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Chief’s obviously you’re sick😂😂😂😂😂 Benin is a city Why Edo is a tribe you’re so shameless mr man Benin isn’t am origin.. meanwhile listen to what Oba said be4 disgracing yourself
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Before you embarrass yourself, Check that same video here on UA-cam. The Oba spoke about the 2nd Dynasty of king where our son Ekhaladeran known by yourbas as Oduduwa was requested to return to his throne after he was earlier bannished.... He refused to return but sent his son Oranmiyan. THIS IS THE LINK WITH YORUBA. YOU OONI IS OUR SON. ... PERIOD
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
From oral traditions, Yorubas are from Edo .... Edos are from Yoruba... That means they share(d) something in common. Could that mean they are from the same place? Perhaps some DNA research could lay some of these questions to rest. I am seeing some kind of research idea here .....Lolz
Chief Edebiri of Benin kingdom confirmed in a video that they came with Prince Oromiyan to igodomigodo or Idu…I don’t understand why people like to argue with facts video evidence.
@@destinyovbiebo8988 but Oba of Benin refer us to Jacob E book.. Oba don’t need to say that. The person I mentioned is high chief in Benin kingdom and is over 90 years.
@@destinyovbiebo8988 my brother go and watch video interview of Oba Akenzua did with Sir David Attenborough in 1975 all this are video proof okay history is different from fiction..
U are misquoting our Oba of Benin. We are not from yoruba origin. Oduduwa is the exiled prince of Benin that became king over the yoruba. We are Benin and our spoken language is Edo. Warri people are from Benin ancestry. Certainly corruption and manipulation from Oni of ife due territory EXPLOITATION is taking place. Money has exchanged hands. Customary laws of a people and Nigeria constitution are different take when it comes to culture and traditions. The God of our Benin ancestors will collective dissolve every evil conspiracy against the Benin ancestry. Isee.
Some groups of the Itsekiris are gradually selling their ancestry to the Yorubas because of the backups they believe they will get from the Yorubas when there are issues regarding land grabbing. Those of us that keep historical records know that at the time Itsekiri kingdom was founded, Yoruba race was not in existence. It was only the Oyos that were described as Yarabas by the Hausas. Other states that claim Yoruba today were of different nationalities. They should please know that the Urobos also own Warri. The Urobos should stand up for what belongs to them now before this people give everything to the Yorubas.
FALSE! You can’t know the Itsekiris more than they know themselves. The PEOPLE (or ETHNIC GROUP) callled Yoruba have been living in their homeland for thousands upon thousand of years. Also, they’ve been know ally the name YORUBA for hundred upon hundreds of years. At least before the 1600s. In order words, they’ve been know by the name YORUBA prior to when Edos came to be known by the name EDO.
Also: But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Ika, Aniocha and Ukwuani are all dialects of Anioma (Igbo) people. I wonder who drew that ethnic map. Our enemies really want to divide and rule over Anioma people. The law of Inheritance applies also to Anioma people. Its unfair I must say, but that was the law. Sons inherit from their fathers and daughters inherit from their mothers. It is a basic culture of all Igbos.
Edo people including Binis are from Ife. Bini people should stop lying go to Usen, to Esan , Owan Akoko Edo Yoruba influence are all there. We bear Yoruba names but Yorubas do not bear our names. Uhe nor bio Oba. Means Ife (Uhe) gives birth to the Oba. Stop lying my Bini people.
Binins are becoming horrible with their lies, till date, go to Ile Ife, you will find previous heads of their past Obas even the very first Oba of Benin which is Owomika ( Eweka). We are in the dispensation of science and technology, a simple forensic analysis on one of those heads will put an end to all this Benin lies. When Ogiso descendants reminded Erediauwa about the ekiokpagha treaty, then the Benins started distorting history, bringing false story of Ekaladehran, first turned to Izoduwa, later to Oduduwa, because they saw an opening regarding the Origin of Oduduwa, after that the Oba of Benin then set ablaze the library in their state so as for the Ogisos descendants and others not to have access to histories that were documented.
Yoruba are good people. Edo's are not ashamed of Yoruba's. The Bini people are only a part of Edo Kingdom. Okpame later Ozoluws or Ojoluwa founded ora. His elder brothers children founded emai and ihievbe. His cousin Aremu from ife ( maternal cousin) founded Iuleha. Edo immigrants half Edo and half Yoruba founded otuo. Owan is part Bini, part Yoruba and part igala. Now ekslardaran died in ughoton his mother is esago the reknowned wicked step mother. Oliha jealous of owodo and his younger brother destroyed the Edo monarchy by bringing oluwaye Ado to become oba in Benin from ife. He claims to meet his destiny in Benin and renames himself Oron - Mi- yan meaning I have met my destiny. That is how a foreigner became king in Benin.
The oba of Benin never said they are direct descendant of ododuwa, stop misleading people. I know as a lawyer it's in your nature to lie but not in this case. The video of the oba in question is still there for everyone to see and listen to in full.
'Iwu edo' can mean the expansion/fame of Edo/Edu/Idu which implies the Children of Edo/Idu who then have become the carrier of that fame or expansion of a Ruler. Alternatively, it can mean the same thing as Ileibinu.How? 'Iwu' is from an Indigenous Igboid language that also means anger or force while Ileibinu is the Yoruboid word that means land of anger/bitter in which case there will be an angry one forcing or many living under bitter force called Obada(slave). Run away from the slavery of men.
The lawyer should keep quiet and stop bending history to suit himself, what is the difference between Benin and edo, edo is a Benin word every tribe In edo state is from Benin ancestry so what is he talking about. So disappointed how they allow ignorant people come on tv to say rubbish. His law certificate has to be investigated
Benin people are known as Edo people since over 800 years. In fact, nothing like Benin language but Edo. Language. In addition, Benin people don't call themselves Benins why speaking Edo language but they called theirselves Edo. Also the Oba of Benin is known in Edo language as Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo.
The first speaker quoting the oba of Benin didn't finish the statement as quoted by the Oba of Benin. He should shut his mouth if he can't complete the Oba's statement rather than half of it
Mr Lawyer there is a limit to your logic you are not the only educated person in Delta state you can’t upset the lay down law and traditions of the Itsekiri people by mere putting A+B together otherwise anybody could likewise make sense of logic by simply saying every lay down law in Nigeria 🇳🇬 is wrong. Please let the extant traditional law be obeyed no need for this grammar.
I hope you're wetting your bed now 😂😂 bini man. Wetin concern you??. An extant law that didn't prevent the son of a portuguese from ruling the throne? Or Son of an ijaw or Son of various yoruba in the past. The itshekiri themselves are a yoruba people 😂. You lot will keep crying tears
@@toyosioyejobi309 Keep dwelling in your ignorance the way’s of the gods are different from the ways of men that’s why we will forever remain stand out and envy of you all. 10 years is not forever mumu.
@@donisede8563 Lmao all because he's mum is yoruba. You lot are so scared of yoruba like that 😂😂😭 like I'm wondering what's your concern here. Anyways you'll keep crying. Hopefully you'll witness him on the throne till he's 70
@@toyosioyejobi309 Go get a live my friend and wake up from your day dream 😴 what’s it about Yorubas we should be scared of I think is the other way round. The only set trying to upset an established Kingdom is your set. We have been here for thousands of years built an empire and eventually Kingdom well known and recognised world all over. Scared of you who came into existence less than a century ago under the amalgamation of the British you joking.
@@donisede8563 So why are you and your lot wishing the current olu bad and against him. Why not focus on bini 😂😂 our people the itshekiri have spoken and are behind their olu. Give it a rest. Abeg leave story for the gods, that's not the point. Yoruba and others in west Africa had powerful kingdoms and empires. This is the present. Focus on yourselves and stop being insecure. You're the one crying about another kingdom because the kings mother is yoruba. You lot are pathetic for real
Yoruba tribe is far, far superior to Edo in every raminification of life if you put them side by side to Judge who is superior, Yoruba has religion, a bigger landmass and a big population and many deities that solely of yoruba origin and that are recognized world wide like Orunmila, Ogun,obatala,sango,Ayelalaetc ,Edo are just a copy cat of Yoruba entity who is trying so hard to rip off Yoruba heritage and muddle its history. Beside Eweka I e Owomika,did oduduwa or oramiyan or any of oduduwa children ever lived and died and buried in Edo Land? If not,then oduduwa cannot be from there.neither Oduduwa or Oramiyan returned to Edo land to live or be buried there after their death.
😂😂😂 Yoruba don’t have a kingdom If your kingdom is far far how come British didn’t notice you First it’s oYO empire Noting like Yoruba All the ditties you worship in Yoruba originated from Benin It’s introduced to you by oduduwa Ayelala is Yoruba dities Ogun isn’t your deities okay Sango is from udo not your deities.. you’re the ones copying us.. firs you don’t answer Oba you start answering Oba in 19th century So your Yoruba isn’t superior because you’re not recognized in the works except the oYO empire 😂😂😂 you’re indeed confused after 1914 amalgamation that’s how Yoruba language travel fars because they sign amalgamation with British ( wazobia) Yoruba has many language till date Be4 showcasing stupidity do your surveys
😂😂😂😂 yet you’re claiming oduduwa fall from the sky Did oduduwa fell from the sky with Yoruba language or mark😂😂😂😂, Did oromiya rule has a king in benin Did e lives in benin😂😂😂😂😂 Una copy copy and hypocrisy is too much
@@successgodstime3845 You are Clenging to an over Exergerated Historical past. In modern times no one cares about some Random beed wearing Monarchical Edo system. There's no way Bini would compared with Yoruba in Modern Time's, the only Group that maybe considered compared to Yorubas are IGBO's, even them are well behind.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Yoruba kingdom is too big to an extent that it originated from Ife to entire six states in Nigeria to benin, Brazil, Cuba and other Caribbean . So Benin is jot a dot city, so Yoruba don't need them. The fact is that warri is a Yoruba by extension, their names, culture and tell more about it.
Which culture can’t you see the way their chiefs are dressed like the Benin chiefs, can’t you hear what their king is called ogiamen which is a Benin language. You are either blind or deaf
Which Yoruba are daft when the chides says there’s Yoruba migrated and Benin migrated Hey man benin became a city in 1991 August 27 Yoruba don’t enough have extension Lagos belongs to benin Pls kindly say oYO empire I don’t blame brat like you if not that your forefathers sign amalgamation with the British who’s Yoruba to look at benin face, Brazil Cuba and Caribbean don’t speak your Yoruba language stop fooling yourself
Ibinu haters everywhere the fact that battles me more claiming culture and language that are from us up till this time,well I feel sad for you guys it’s not easy to be a minority’in Benin as a whole how many of them speaks edo language? If you ask me,who I got ask ??
Ibinu haters everywhere the fact that battles me more claiming culture and language that are from us up till this time,well I feel sad for you guys it’s not easy to be a minority’in Benin as a whole how many of them speaks edo language? If you ask me,who I got ask ??
This lawyer is very unconvincing. When the declaration was written in 1979 the elders and chiefs endorsed it and did not object. They held it up and put it forward as their tradition. They agreed that the mother of an Omoba must be of bini (or according to him edo) origin. What is the lawyer now saying ? He wants to interpret yoruba as edo ? Absolute nonsense. I thought the Itsekiri pushing this argument would be more prepared than this.
The keyword is "Edo Origin". Since the Yorubas and Edos trace their progenitor to Oduduwa. That invariable means both Yorubas and Edos trace their history to the same origin.
Reason why Nigeria will never move forward . You see a law and want o turn it upside down . You can have your way and forcefully crown him but what kind of king will he be and who will he be ruling . And we will continue to blame Buhari . Crap
Mr man get your facts right pls, the kingdom has been in existence for over 500 without qualms. The 1979 proclamation that you ignorantly refer to is not law, it was done surreptitiously by a powerful and rich Ologbotsere for his selfish gains then. It was against established precedent and tradition of our people because there were great Olu's who reigned successfully that were maternaly neighter Edo nor Itsekiri. Olu Atuwatse (Dom Domingos) who was the first black African University graduate was born by a Portuguese mother, his son Oyenakpagha(Anthonio Domingo) also married a Portuguese and gave birth to the next Olu Omoluyiri who succeeded him, 3 generations had European mothers and there were others too . The Yoruba make up a large population of the Itsekiri Nation and you can't deny a people their inheritance out of selfishness. Omoba Tsola Emiko's mother is Yoruba and has been accepted by Ife(Ifa) and the vast majority of Itsekiri as our next Olu. The proclamation is not backed by tradition but rather a hypocritic selfish interest. Those pretending to protect the traditions represent all the ills in our nation (Itsekiri) today and its time up for you people
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
The Binis are not from the Yoruba, he should do a complete research, the Obas family are the Yoruba that invaded during the 11 century, the son of Alaafi of Oyo
If someone was brought from yoruba land to be king in Benin City does no make Edo people to come from yoruba. Before the man was brought Ogisos had ruled Benin.
@@successgodstime3845 can you please bring your proof have told you this is 2021 go and watch the video I told you even Benin chief Edebiri confirmed it.
@@successgodstime3845 Keep deceiving yourself with the concocted story of Ekaladehran turned Oduduwa hahaha. Go and read about what led to ekiokpagha treaty and also the history of Usen people, there you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free hahaha
It's getting clearer that, the death of the former olu of warri is not ordinary. Because of these desperate chiefs around. You people should respect traditions the way you meet it.
something that was edicted in 1979 cannot be a tradition. Tradition means the transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way.
@@boyoXXX Imagine the senseless irony. Someone that his mother is Yoruba cannot be Olu, when a substantial number of Itsekiris trace their origins to Yoruba and over 70% of the language is Yoruba. How the stupid edict makes sense to anyone is beyond me. Yes the monarchy was established by a benin prince, but the itsekiris were not conquered or colonised and so cannot only be ruled by Benin ancestry. The present British queen has German grandfather for god sake.
My question is who is the first son of the late king is it shola or oyo pls let me know,if is oyo that is the right person and the oracle said he will die in short term then why not oyo be the king then when he die then shola can take over simple 🤔all I see here is just politics by the chiefs and Interest
Imagine how old men’s they liars Shola was presented in 2015 naso old men’s they liars this days Jesus… imagine old men’s this’s the reason why Nigeria can’t work
It is very bizarre many arguments I hear, from the titles mentioned I can interpret it as a Yoruba man, so are many titles from Beninland in the Yoruba language so then it means we are all from the same ancestors and I believe that they were not confused about many of these facts even till this day. I please urge all to listen better before reacting to other people's statements. The reason why we in the south are in this Nigerian mess today and why the North, British government, and other European allies, Americas are dividing and ruling us this way is lack of history, trust me they love the confusion and sentiments many of us have right now. It is not possible we are not related, even colleagues from other West African nations are related. One of the persons interviewed has a name exactly the same as my colleague. My colleague doesn't speak Yoruba but could be related to the Yoruba tribe by his ancestors I am very sure about it. Please we might have our differences but we are from the same ancestors.
Give me examples of those titles that are of Yoruba origin, is it the Enogie, the Iyase, the Ologbosere, Ine N’Igun-eromwon , Ihama N’Igun-eronmwon, Ogiegor, Elema, Ogiemien, Eholo N’ Igbesanmwan, Eholo N’ Igieduma. Which one please! Come to Lagos, created by Edo/Benin can you tell me the meaning of IDUMOTA, IDUMAGBO, IDUGARAN, OSHODI, OBANIKORO, IDO in the Yoruba language? All these are Benin names and words.
@@brandiator-io First of all the word OBA is 100% Yoruba word. Before a Yoruba man stepped in that land Idu Igodomigodo that is not called Edo state, the system of rulership in that land is the Ogisos, it was the Yoruba man from Ile Ife Oranmiyan that introduced Obaship. Now , OTU, OSI are all Yoruba word and those are titles you find in the Benin palace, although they are systematically changing all those name because of the pressure from the Ogisos descendants, Oselu is actually Iselu and it a Yoruba word. The Idumota, Idumagbo, IbiObalede are not titles rather names of places, now Before the very first Oba of Lagos who of course is pure Yoruba man too, we had the dejo chiefs sons of Ogunfuminire ( Olofins) who all migrated from Ile Ife, they already dwell in Lagos, intact it was Aromire that gave the sit for the very first Oba to might his throne. Likewise previous heads of Oba of Benin are buried Ile Ife, to tell you that their ancestor came from Ile ife, get a scientist to make forensic experiments on the remaining (body), your very first Oba of Benin Owomika that you corrupted to Eweka ( that is if one of your previous Obas have not ask people to throw them away in order to clean up evidence), and the heads buried in Ife also let forensics experiments should be carried out on any of the remains of the previous Ogisos to know If there is any link between the Ogisos and the Oba dynasty. This will put a final rest to that fallacy of Ekaladehran turned Oduduwa all because intend to rule over the aborigines of that land Idu Igodomigodo.
@@jaymanjay2835 I studied GNS in LASU a Lagos school and all you said here about the creation of Lagos is a FALLACY. Did you know that all those who claim to be Lagos indigenes are migrants. To the east Ijebus (they settled from Lekki to Epe) to the West are the Eguns and Aworis who came from Dahomey and Osun respectively (Settled from Badagry to Ido) from the Central are the Binis and the European slave returnees, to the North are the Ondo's and the Egbas who took abode in the Ikeja, Lagos Mainland axis. OBA is not a Yoruba word. The word was mainly adopted by Lagos kings who took likening for the name from the Oba of Lagos forgetting that the Oba of Lagos being a direct descendant of the Benin king Prince Ado son of the Oba of Benin. The kings in Ijanikin, Akowomjo, Iba, Ikorodu etc all adapted the title and it became viral across Yoruba land. The Yoruba word for king is KABIYESI and OBA is a Benin word for King, this is why in Yoruba land they have the Alaafin of Oyo and not the Oba of Oyo, they have the Awujale of Ijebu Land and not the Oba of Ijebu land, they have the Ooni of Ife and not the Oba of Ife, they have the Akarigbo of Remo land, Olubadan of Ibadan, the Alake of Egbaland, Alara of Ilara-Mokin Olota of Ota, Olowo of Owo, Olowu of Owu Kingdom, Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom, Orangun of Ila Orangun, Osemawe of Ondo Kingdom... ETC. At these times past only the Oba bore Oba until the Lagos kingship started.
@@brandiator-io hahaha you are using GNS to brag. Now here is your assignment, go make research about Olofin Ogunfuminire and his origin, also make research on the following, Aromire, Ijora, Onikoyi, Elegushi, Oniru, Oloto, Olumegbon. Now Kabiyesi, Oba, Iba is Yoruba words 100% before the reign of Oduduwa, there were kings in Ife, such as Obatala, Obalufon, Obaluaye etc. Ogisos never knew the word called Oba or ever used it as king until a Yoruba man came into that land. If you don't know, the word YORUBA is even a new word that Ajayi crowther used to Unify Omokotunjire, so prior before that time to identity their domain, they used words like Aalafin ti Oyo, Awujale to Ijebu, Alake ti Egba, Olowu ti Iwo, Akirigbo ti Remo, Onisabe, Alaketu and the reason while Oba Benin was called Oba of Benin was because he never had a free place to establish his kingdom because they were people who are aborigines to that land and this are the Idus, and Oranmiyan saw the trouble he faced and left the land, Eweka the first never even had a solid palace that was why their heads had to be taken back to Ile Ife, if that mode of transportation was faster and easier them, their full corpse would have being transported back to Ile Ife and buried their but due to the stress and time they will spend on the road, they intend to take only the heads of previous Oba, go to Ile Ife you will see the site till date, this are pure and visible evidence, even this current Oba Of Benin visited that place when he when to Ile Ife. What makes us Yorubas is our language, culture, traditions, norms and value system, if a Yoruba man from Ife speaks, a Yoruba man from Ijebu, Awori, Sabe and Ketu in Benin Republic etc will understand. Ile Ife birthed Benin kingdom that is pure historic fact. The Ogiso never even crossed their villages talkless of forming an empire, it was the kingdom that a Yoruba man formed in in that land Benin kingdom became an empire. Finally go make research about the Usen Origin, I will be waiting for your reply
The most often highly praised Rufai as a critical journalist displays a very high level of bias, he was just listening to his conceived expectations, very sad how tribal connection/affinity exposes Rufai biasness.
Yes very right, he didn’t ask these set of chiefs any technical question, but he bombarded the previous chief with a lot of personal questions even Ruben abate has to interject him because he was becoming a nuisance
All prominent Yoruba monarchs apart from ooni of ife are from Benin empire.. This Yoruba itsekiri mixblood Chief know he is lying..... Stop this lies.. How could you misquote the speech of oba Ewuare II coronation speech.. Yoruba and Benin are two different clan...
The man is a talkative and lacks historical facts of the great Bini empire, and even of his own people. Probably he was from the few families who objected to the creation of Midwestern region from the Western region. Because they said then that they were from Yoruba. So, why is he now fighting for the throne his family said they were not a part of. Secondly, he has misinterpreted the OBA of Benin statement on the origin of the Bini people, and including his people for his personal aggrandizement. Thereby, trying to seek support from the Yoruba against his people. And even if it meant falsifying the great bini empire history of which he has no knowledge about. The man is very frivolous and can say anything to stay relevant. Unfortunately, he is doing it at the expense of his people along with rubbishing the great bini empire. What a disgruntled person who is prepared to destroy his people years of great cultural heritage for his personal gains. What a shame.
Stopped lying to yourself Mr lawyer. Go put your house in order! Just look at your mood of dressing and that settled who you're, if am to borrow you some senses! Edo don't fight to be associated with people yet others beg to associate and create kingdoms from Edo and that's why we're proud prince and princess of the mighty kingdom hence the silence to responds to your problem from our palace. Mr lawyer, When u say Edo you're saying Benin. The Current day instance is what trying to separate Edo from Benin to encompass others tribes in the state. When you hear names like Edowen, Edosa, Edoriodion, Edoba Edogiawerie, Edozola etc are all names of Benin just to put you on note n stop confusing the gullible.
All this Yoruba on social media are good in propaganda imagine Yoruba language were spoken in oba of benin palace in the past and no oba of benin ever answer Yoruba name in the history of benin why...you guys should stop fooling yourself
Ogiemen is the problem benin palace, this is the meaning of Ogiemien, Now Chief you see, What so-call white person don cause big problem to our people, if you like write heaven and earth, We as benin speaking people we know who will are, right from oral tradition.
You are comfortably referring to Olu of itsekire as Olu Of Warri because Pa Awolowo used his political power to award warri kingdom to one ethnic group eventhough there are other two major groups who also settled in warri. The Olu of itsekire is the paramount rulers of itsekire people only.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife? Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us? Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man. History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
@@iyamugeorge5835 go back to elderly Benin chief and ask them…even before Oba of Benin crowned he as to say the word Owo mi ka in Yoruba.. ask your chiefs.
@@walecheroke guy you read without understanding, don't you speak English language today? Does it make you an English person? All you thought you read are without your understanding. Until now, there's no response from palace of Benin kingdom over this all issues like your people did. Animal without teeth rush first to the site of food but getting there they can't Eat. If we 're not important why calling and references us over olu of warri problem? Cos u all know your facts. Recently, oba of Lagos said Yoruba where from Benin with fact from him why don't you talk about. Go read and understand all words from each pages.
@@donren-ew3wh can you make your point without insults..you see we’re talking of 11th to 12th century and you are talking of speaking English language just think about it..this is all facts Oba of Benin refer to Jacob E book on coronation day go and read it..watch video of Oba Akenzua with Sir David Attenborough and video of Chief Edebiri of Benin kingdom saying that there are ancestors came with Prince Oromiyan..you said Oba of Lagos said Yoruba came from Benin.. that not what he said what is said was that his forefathers came from Benin kingdom that is true because Oba Orhogbua went to idumota in 1548 with the Portuguese and established slave camps there and he still the great grandson of Prince Oromiyan. We don’t need to fight this is history okay.
@@donren-ew3wh you don’t need to pass insults just bring the facts..Oba of Benin refer to Jacob E book go and read it and watch video of Oba Akenzua with Sir David Attenborough and watch the video of chief Edebiri of Benin kingdom so bring your facts.
I swear, it is good to be learned.
It is good to be a thorough researcher.
It is good to be exposed.
It is good to be eloquent.
It is good to be fair.
Your guests are highly learned.
i can listen to chief brown mene all day , his diction is superb
I was transfixed to my PC watching him in awe. The two gentlemen are well chosen!
Oba of Benin did not say, Benin Origin is from Ife, he said he is of Oduduwa, and Oduduwa was a prince from Benin.
I'm coming here to correct that on this comment but you did it first before me. Thank you
You got it right!
I think that is the same point Chief Ariyo was trying to make. Oduduwa is recognized by the Yorubas as their progenitor, if we say he was a Benin prince that would mean he is of Edo Origin, therefore an Olu whose mom is Yoruba is on the right track. He also tried to highlight the other side of the argument by historians, however he stated in conclusion that they all mean the same thing in this instance.
@@shedrachjuliusedema7242 You are correct !
@@shedrachjuliusedema7242 well said 👍
The 1979 edict was ridiculous! So glad the king got to ascend to his God ordained throne!
There is only one recognized Olu of Warri and that’s Tsola Emiko! Ayiri emami and his cohorts are only grasping at straws!
Tsola is chosen by the people, by God and we the people of itsekiri kingdom are behind him!
August 21, a new king is crowned, and that king Is Tsola Emiko!
The chief is an orator. I can listen to him the whole day. Powerful oratorical skills there.
True. Papa Dey talk sha
im son no need pay bride price. Only his talking will do😀
Before dem realise daughter don go
The Oba did not say the Edos are from Ife! Please, don’t change the quote!
Is what he said they from lle ife.. lle bini
@@lceberry435 you guys are full of lies
@@destinyovbiebo8988 everyone know the truth
Oba Benin never said Benin or Edos are Yoruba, he said the Oba dynasty which is the present dynasty after the Ogiso is Yoruba from Ile Ife.
@@genuinediasporan he said he is the direct son of Oranmiyan, the son of Oduduwa whom the Binis of that era knew as Ikaladeran, a self exile Benin Prince who became a king in Ife. The Binis know Oduduwa and his origin, but it’s not in our space to force this recognition on people outside our boundaries. Stop getting the king’s words twisted!
These comments are exciting. History is exciting. Some of the names here remind me of primary school. Nigeria needs to do more in documenting our history abeg
I'm happy when young and educated men are crowned kings
You misquoting the Oba of Benin
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Thank Adesuwa for correcting the fake lawyer, abarti and rufai are happy listening to the nonsense because they are Yoruba
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
He is not a fake lawyer!
it is simple, Tshola's mum is an ife princess(Daughter of the late ooni of ife) automatically making her a descendant of Oranmiyan who according to Edo traditon is of Edo origin. Tshola's mum is of Edo Origin.
In reality, Tshola's mom is actually from Abeokuta
Stop spreading epileptic lies, edo don't have any origin with ife people, you guys should take your confused to sabista forest
@@choicelinus0076 who is oranmiyan then? An Ife King whose dynasty still rule in Benin till today
@@brandiator-io Google is your friend my brother
@@choicelinus0076 Edo origin is ife. Shut up I am Edo. All these new history you are learning from oba is fake
Benin Origin is not from Ife but we shall the same Kingship with is Oduduwa/Ekaladerhan that left benin to be the king of Ile Ife
That’s true
Benin people should go and read history very well all your past Oba are Yoruba you can’t do nothing about that.
@@walecheroke Haters
Until 1930 the language speak in Oba of Benin palace was Yoruba people need to research.
@@walecheroke Oduduwa is a Benin prince who left Benin to find Ife kingdom
Ayayaiii. When Nigerian man go school for law, you go know. I need a dictionary to follow this conversation. Bravooo.
Omonabise……. Adesua thanks 🙏 for representing and correcting that wrong assertion immediately. Omokhin ❤️❤️❤️
Adesua did not correct anything. There is an ongoing controversy concerning Oduduwa. Both Edos and Benis claim Oduduwa and the Oba of Benin made reference to Oduduwa. So the Lawyer was just saying there is no difference between six and half a dozen. It doesn't matter if Edos gave birth to Yorubas or Yorubas gave birth to Edos.
@@Science-Trivia it must be follow. All this talk talk will save this mad men
@@iyamuimuetinyan1326
It must be follow what? That a prince of Yoruba mother cannot be Olu? Is an edict by a military governor superior to the culture and history of a people. Most Itsekiris do not support that edict. Ayiri and his supporters are a vocal minority on this issue.
Itsekeri People speak very good Very impressive.
The Chief go school when school good.
My question is with all these bright brains and well schooled Itsekiri men, how did an almost uneducated man Ayiri Emami become the Ologbotsere?
Seems he cast a spell using his political influence on the previous Olu. Apparently they had a falling out over his overreach before he died
He probably bought the title with cash.😀
That same uneducated man is the only Itsekiri man doing the right thing today... Imagine if the Oba of Benin title is given to the last born of Oba Akenzua rather than what the history and tradition say? BE WISE BRO!
Osaz George...absolutely!
@@brandiator-io you are a very, very big liar! The young man was sidelined in 2015 and now the family decided to do the right thing and return the crown to the rightful owner and you are here talking rubbish! You know better than the family now right? Destiny has spoken so please be calming down ok. The right man is on the throne! They tried to swindle the ancestors in 2015 but God is more than any man. He holds the final say!!!
THANK YOU ADESUWA FOR CORRECTING THAT MAN YORUBA COME FROM BENIN KINGDOM OBA GHA TORKPERE ISEE ISEE ISEE ISEE
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Thanks you so much adasuwa for the correction
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Thanks Adesuwa for correcting the falsehood 🖤
She did right! That lawyer is a liar 🤥
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
@@teetee6366 when did the Oba went to pay homage? The only time the Oba went to ife, was a thank you visit after his coronation. He visited traditional rulers across the country not just the ooni. It’s undisputed they share the same ancestor, so he has every right to visit. The only complication is the story of Oduduwa or Izoduwa. Nobody is forcing history on your throat. I am an Edo man and my allegiance is to the throne and whoever sits on it. Our history was not forced on us but passed down to us by our ancestors. Monarchs of Southern part of Nigeria before the arrival of Europeans are all related. Same thing with the Monarchs of kingdoms in Europe. There’s nothing wrong in that.
@@hillaryogie4353
"Royal Visit Ooni of Ife, Oba of Benin Seek End To Killings, Human Trafficking"
Search that title on UA-cam and listen to the report.
Revert back here to tell me it was a mere thank you visit.
Did our Oba of Benin also pay the same homage at the palace of the Sultan??
Having said that, there is no such thing as an Izoduwa fleeing to Ife in our history.
Academic and professional historians all over the world have demonstrated that such doesn't exist in Benin history prior to the 1970s.
It's a made up falsehood that was fabricated in the 1970s and was first announced to the Edo world by Omonoba Erediauwa during his coronation ceremony of 1978-9.
@@teetee6366 it was a thank you visit after his coronation. He visited Olu of Warri, traditional rulers of river state, emirs, sultan, etc. not just Ife sir. Research properly. Like I said earlier, you’re not an Edo. It’s very obvious. You saying it was a fabricated story in 70s says it all. It has always been an oral history. You only get to hear it from Oba Eradiauwa because after invasion by the British, the kingdom was destabilized. The new entity called Nigeria was amalgamated after the death of Oba Ovonramwen in Calabar. The kingdom became part of western region and became toothless, voiceless and powerless. When Awolowo became premier of the western region, he wanted to unite all the kingdom in the region and told the then Oba to go learn Yoruba. The kingdom was subjected to a Yoruba premiere who wanted to unite the region under one Yoruba nation. All that ended with the creation of Midwestern region. Note; the word “Yoruba” was not used to address all the kingdoms of South West. The word was used to address people of old OYO by the Hausas and Fulani. Which is Yariba. There were different kingdoms and empires and Ife language was Edekiri. Ife remained a kingdom and Bini and OYO grown and became an empire. No ruler was addressed as Oba before, except Oba of Benin. There is no record of war between Ife and Igodomigodo. Do you think as strong as igodomigodo, an Ife Prince will come and rule without conquest if there were no relationship between the kingdoms?
It has always been an oral history in every home in Edo.
Thank you very much Adesuwa for that correction, the great OBA of the Benin kingdom has never said that. As a matter of fact Many kingdom are inside the great Benin Empire, not the other way round.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
@@teetee6366 you're not a Benin person. Stop impersonating us.
Please, list the ‘many kingdoms’? What Chief Ariyo was saying is that if Edo are from Ife as we Yoruba belief or Yoruba from Benin, as Edo people belief, the fact remains that Yoruba and Edo people are closely related! When the Itshekiris speak, it seems to me they are speaking Ondo, which is a dialect in Yoruba land! I thought that edict was manipulated by the Edo people in the then Bendel State, by so doing, there won’t be any connection whats so ever with Yoruba but for Edo to Lord over them. The edict was hideous to say the least!
@@teetee6366 I really like honesty!! Thanks for being honest 👍🏾
Adesuwa u spoke well for defending ur land, those idiot going around spreading wrong information to mislead the public.
Mr. man before you embarrass yourself, Check that same video here on UA-cam. The Oba spoke about the 2nd Dynasty of king where our son Ekhaladeran known by yourbas as Oduduwa was requested to return to his throne after he was earlier bannished.... He refused to return but sent his son Oranmiyan. THIS IS THE LINK WITH YORUBA.
YOUR OONI IS OUR SON. ... PERIOD
Well said.
@Ben Iyoha: The lawyer was trying to be clever by half by delibrately distorting the statement of Oba Eware II.
And Oba of Benin never call him Elkaladehan and prefer to call him Oduduwa that Yoruba people call him and you can never find that Elkaladehan in Oba of Benin palace even when Oba of Benin doing festival still call him Oduduwa instead of Elkaladehan.. 👏
@@walecheroke: If Ekaladeran is called Ododuwa because that is the name he became known with/for after his sojourn in Ile-Ife from Bini, doesn't it really make any difference?
That Ododuwa came from the sky is no longer being promoted anymore.
And that Ododuwa came from east of Ife and that Bini was geographically interpreted to be east of Ife is as a matter of fact no longer a subject of dispute.
My brother, there is no point dragging issue that is evidential and fact-based.
You all keep deceiving yourself about the fallacy that Ekhaladeran turned Oduduwa. The only link we had is through Oranmiyan from Ile Ife who had absolutely nothing to do with Idu Igodomigodo. We introduced Obaship into that land. Go and read about ekiokpagha treaty so that your eyes will be open to now that Ekaladehran turned Oduduwa is just a fallacy, just for the Oba dynasty to save their throne.
Bini are not from yoruba. Edo in English language is Bini. We are ivbie Edo.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
@@teetee6366 Oba Ewuare is a Bini man. His father and his mother are pure Binis.
His late father is also a Bini man, because his father and mother are Binis. Oba Ewuare great, great grand father is a Yoruba man, does not make him a yoruba man. Also, he came out from a Bini woman womb.
He is a pure Bini man.
The 2015 deselection of Tsola was a miscarriage of justice but now need to be corrected. In so many jurisdictions where there had been miscarriage of justice and after so many years, if there are new evidence/s that prove that the person convicted was Inocent, the person is released immediately and substantially compensated depending on how long he/she had been incarcerated.
The ọba never said the benin traces thier history to ife. Foolish man
Actually Oba Benin said that during his coronation. Instead of insulting,goggle it.
Can you people read
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
It will be better for those who are still in doubt of the origin of Benin Kingdom to listen to the present Oba of Benin speech during his coronation. According to his opening speech he stated that "As the 40th Oba of Benin: a direct descendant of Oromiyan the son of Oduduwa whom the Benin people of that time knew as Kadiran". Based on his statement it is obvious that Benin people are descendant of Yoruba.
Benin people lived in Igodomigodo for 960 years and were ruled by Ogisos before Oduduwa was born. Oba of Benin never said Benin people are from Yoruba. He said he is a descendant of Ekaladerhan who Yorubas call Oduduwa. In Benin history, Ekaladerhan who yorubas call Oduduwa was an exiled Benin Prince who changed his name to Izoduwa. He was the only son of the last Ogiso, Owodo. He gave birth to Oranmiyan.
How can you say the Binis are from lfe?
Who gave you chieftency tittle did not tell you that the itsekiri were part of ancient Bini kingdom. If truly you known your history, have you ask yourself who are the original owner of names like Uhunwangue,Ogiamen and other typical Bini Names?
Don't mind the clown
He's a lawyer, he's trained to Lie when need be.
You is this mad man
They all called Edo/Benin kingdom over issues that concerns olu of warri yet they say we're not important! They all confusing themselves with myths over facts.
You are very funny, since you guys confusion started, have you ever see any edo people interfer in itsekiri nonsense, you guys are the once dragging edo into it, we don't operate political throne in benin Kingdom, we don't have any business with political king. You guys should count us out.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
I like Chief Mene!
You no longer have military regime?
You're not a sound lawyer.. Because Edo people are also known as Benin people. In addition, the name Edo has been in existence for over 800 years. Oba of Great Benin Kingdom never said that Edo or Benin people are from Ife.
Jason is always here
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Will you keep quite!!! The oba of Benin did not say so... Listen to him again
😆🤣😂
I have listened to both interviews but I must say here that things should be done properly cos a Throne is not a political appointment. When due process is not being followed the end results are not pleasant. We pray for Peace, Unity and Progress for the Itsekiri Nation.
That’s what we are all praying for. But it seems that human race has problem
@@destinyovbiebo8988 real problem
So olu of Warri isn’t olu of Koko?
The lawyer was trying to be clever by half;
firstly he delibrately misquoted Oba Eware II and
secondly he pretended not to know that Edo was synonymously used in place of Bini.
Are you from usen, utese or egbetta?
Ajibola is a Yoruba name and Omoruyi is an Edo name that should explain that there is connection between Itshekiri, Yoruba and Edo. When you see some Itshekiri names you here Yoruba names there too I have never here Itshekiri and Edo names incorporated to Yoruba name I think this should explain everything anyone with good critical thing will understand me.
@@godwinejiofor8064: If only I could get the basis of your argument or comment and what it has got to do with my comment namely that the lawyer delibrately misquoted Oba Eware II.
The itsekiri should not drag us into their epileptic nonsense, the oba of Benin never said the benins are from yoruba, we are not yoruba, edo is a tribe, and benin is an empire, they should stay away from benin, before their confused becomes permanent.
What does Benin mean in Edo? I am curious. Oba Benin in his coronation actually never said Benin people are Yoruba but said the present dynasty of Benin is of Yoruba- Ife origin. It's on your UA-cam right now.
@@genuinediasporan oba of benin never said benin are yoruba, he said and I quote, I am a direct descendants of oromiyan, the son of oduduwa, who the benin of that era know as ekaladerhan the benin exile Prince who became oduduwa in ife. I believe that's self explained to all.
@@choicelinus0076 Did I say anything contradictory regarding Oduduwa or whatever later giving to him? It appeared we are on the same page except in the area of Dynasty. Dynastically the present " Oba" could not be said to be of " Ogiso" Dynasty. The present Dynasty is closely tie to Ife- Yoruba,both culturally and spiritually.
@@genuinediasporan what do you mean, who's ekaladerhan, is he not the son of ogiso owodo, nothing changed, we know our history, we are not yoruba, we know our relationship with the yoruba. They have their own believe of oduduwa, we have our own believe of oduduwa, let everyone stick to their beliefs.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Prince Tsola Emiko is the only recognised Olu Designate of Warri Kingdom.
Good, but you guys should leave Edo out of your APC/PDP kind of kingship
Edo pple will never distort their tradition to make way for someone to be king.
Bunch of liars, the Oba of Benin never said the Edos originated from Yorubaland
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
You are lieing Oba never side so and we are not part of yoroba
Olu of Itsekiri kingdom not Olu of warri
Ovie of Urhobo
Chief’s obviously you’re sick😂😂😂😂😂
Benin is a city
Why Edo is a tribe you’re so shameless mr man
Benin isn’t am origin.. meanwhile listen to what Oba said be4 disgracing yourself
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
I think he said Bini (which is a tribe), not Benin (which as you know, is a city)
You are mad where the OBA said benin comes from ile fe? Mister man correct yourself before you run mad fools
Before you embarrass yourself, Check that same video here on UA-cam. The Oba spoke about the 2nd Dynasty of king where our son Ekhaladeran known by yourbas as Oduduwa was requested to return to his throne after he was earlier bannished.... He refused to return but sent his son Oranmiyan. THIS IS THE LINK WITH YORUBA.
YOU OONI IS OUR SON. ... PERIOD
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
From oral traditions, Yorubas are from Edo .... Edos are from Yoruba... That means they share(d) something in common. Could that mean they are from the same place?
Perhaps some DNA research could lay some of these questions to rest. I am seeing some kind of research idea here .....Lolz
Chief Edebiri of Benin kingdom confirmed in a video that they came with Prince Oromiyan to igodomigodo or Idu…I don’t understand why people like to argue with facts video evidence.
But the Oba never said the Edos are from Ife!
@@destinyovbiebo8988 but Oba of Benin refer us to Jacob E book.. Oba don’t need to say that. The person I mentioned is high chief in Benin kingdom and is over 90 years.
@@destinyovbiebo8988 my brother go and watch video interview of Oba Akenzua did with Sir David Attenborough in 1975 all this are video proof okay history is different from fiction..
Chief Edebiri never said anything like that.
@@alphabet798 the video is there please .
U are misquoting our Oba of Benin. We are not from yoruba origin. Oduduwa is the exiled prince of Benin that became king over the yoruba. We are Benin and our spoken language is Edo. Warri people are from Benin ancestry. Certainly corruption and manipulation from Oni of ife due territory EXPLOITATION is taking place. Money has exchanged hands. Customary laws of a people and Nigeria constitution are different take when it comes to culture and traditions. The God of our Benin ancestors will collective dissolve every evil conspiracy against the Benin ancestry. Isee.
A matter of time Oyowoli will ascend the throne in their absence tradition doesn't speak English. Those against it always pay with their lives.
Some groups of the Itsekiris are gradually selling their ancestry to the Yorubas because of the backups they believe they will get from the Yorubas when there are issues regarding land grabbing.
Those of us that keep historical records know that at the time Itsekiri kingdom was founded, Yoruba race was not in existence. It was only the Oyos that were described as Yarabas by the Hausas. Other states that claim Yoruba today were of different nationalities.
They should please know that the Urobos also own Warri. The Urobos should stand up for what belongs to them now before this people give everything to the Yorubas.
FALSE! You can’t know the Itsekiris more than they know themselves.
The PEOPLE (or ETHNIC GROUP) callled Yoruba have been living in their homeland for thousands upon thousand of years.
Also, they’ve been know ally the name YORUBA for hundred upon hundreds of years. At least before the 1600s.
In order words, they’ve been know by the name YORUBA prior to when Edos came to be known by the name EDO.
Also:
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Oba is not say Edo is from ife you lia
I don’t know why Benin people are saying Edict that was made in 1979 Tradition how?
Ika, Aniocha and Ukwuani are all dialects of Anioma (Igbo) people. I wonder who drew that ethnic map. Our enemies really want to divide and rule over Anioma people. The law of Inheritance applies also to Anioma people. Its unfair I must say, but that was the law. Sons inherit from their fathers and daughters inherit from their mothers. It is a basic culture of all Igbos.
long time from history group
Edo people including Binis are from Ife. Bini people should stop lying go to Usen, to Esan , Owan Akoko Edo Yoruba influence are all there. We bear Yoruba names but Yorubas do not bear our names. Uhe nor bio Oba. Means Ife (Uhe) gives birth to the Oba. Stop lying my Bini people.
Binins are becoming horrible with their lies, till date, go to Ile Ife, you will find previous heads of their past Obas even the very first Oba of Benin which is Owomika ( Eweka). We are in the dispensation of science and technology, a simple forensic analysis on one of those heads will put an end to all this Benin lies. When Ogiso descendants reminded Erediauwa about the ekiokpagha treaty, then the Benins started distorting history, bringing false story of Ekaladehran, first turned to Izoduwa, later to Oduduwa, because they saw an opening regarding the Origin of Oduduwa, after that the Oba of Benin then set ablaze the library in their state so as for the Ogisos descendants and others not to have access to histories that were documented.
Yoruba are good people. Edo's are not ashamed of Yoruba's. The Bini people are only a part of Edo Kingdom. Okpame later Ozoluws or Ojoluwa founded ora. His elder brothers children founded emai and ihievbe. His cousin Aremu from ife ( maternal cousin) founded Iuleha. Edo immigrants half Edo and half Yoruba founded otuo. Owan is part Bini, part Yoruba and part igala. Now ekslardaran died in ughoton his mother is esago the reknowned wicked step mother. Oliha jealous of owodo and his younger brother destroyed the Edo monarchy by bringing oluwaye Ado to become oba in Benin from ife. He claims to meet his destiny in Benin and renames himself Oron - Mi- yan meaning I have met my destiny. That is how a foreigner became king in Benin.
@@jesuslovesme8824 the whole of ovia south west are yoruba people
The oba of Benin never said they are direct descendant of ododuwa, stop misleading people. I know as a lawyer it's in your nature to lie but not in this case. The video of the oba in question is still there for everyone to see and listen to in full.
Benin never comes from yoruba 😒get that to your head fake lawyer
'Iwu edo' can mean the expansion/fame of Edo/Edu/Idu which implies the Children of Edo/Idu who then have become the carrier of that fame or expansion of a Ruler. Alternatively, it can mean the same thing as Ileibinu.How? 'Iwu' is from an Indigenous Igboid language that also means anger or force while Ileibinu is the Yoruboid word that means land of anger/bitter in which case there will be an angry one forcing or many living under bitter force called Obada(slave). Run away from the slavery of men.
Edo origin always meant the BINIS. It’s the creation of Edo state that makes all claim Edo.
The Edo empire was larger than just a tribe
Ovhi Edo we khin?
Is there any tribe in Edo state that doesn't have its origin from the Binis?
So Benin people came from lle ife the truth is open to the world
The lawyer should keep quiet and stop bending history to suit himself, what is the difference between Benin and edo, edo is a Benin word every tribe In edo state is from Benin ancestry so what is he talking about. So disappointed how they allow ignorant people come on tv to say rubbish. His law certificate has to be investigated
Benin people are known as Edo people since over 800 years. In fact, nothing like Benin language but Edo. Language. In addition, Benin people don't call themselves Benins why speaking Edo language but they called theirselves Edo. Also the Oba of Benin is known in Edo language as Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo.
The first speaker quoting the oba of Benin didn't finish the statement as quoted by the Oba of Benin. He should shut his mouth if he can't complete the Oba's statement rather than half of it
All dis criminals paradin dem self as leaders
Mr Lawyer there is a limit to your logic you are not the only educated person in Delta state you can’t upset the lay down law and traditions of the Itsekiri people by mere putting A+B together otherwise anybody could likewise make sense of logic by simply saying every lay down law in Nigeria 🇳🇬 is wrong. Please let the extant traditional law be obeyed no need for this grammar.
I hope you're wetting your bed now 😂😂 bini man. Wetin concern you??. An extant law that didn't prevent the son of a portuguese from ruling the throne? Or Son of an ijaw or Son of various yoruba in the past.
The itshekiri themselves are a yoruba people 😂. You lot will keep crying tears
@@toyosioyejobi309 Keep dwelling in your ignorance the way’s of the gods are different from the ways of men that’s why we will forever remain stand out and envy of you all. 10 years is not forever mumu.
@@donisede8563 Lmao all because he's mum is yoruba. You lot are so scared of yoruba like that 😂😂😭 like I'm wondering what's your concern here. Anyways you'll keep crying. Hopefully you'll witness him on the throne till he's 70
@@toyosioyejobi309 Go get a live my friend and wake up from your day dream 😴 what’s it about Yorubas we should be scared of I think is the other way round. The only set trying to upset an established Kingdom is your set. We have been here for thousands of years built an empire and eventually Kingdom well known and recognised world all over. Scared of you who came into existence less than a century ago under the amalgamation of the British you joking.
@@donisede8563 So why are you and your lot wishing the current olu bad and against him. Why not focus on bini 😂😂 our people the itshekiri have spoken and are behind their olu. Give it a rest.
Abeg leave story for the gods, that's not the point. Yoruba and others in west Africa had powerful kingdoms and empires. This is the present. Focus on yourselves and stop being insecure. You're the one crying about another kingdom because the kings mother is yoruba. You lot are pathetic for real
Yoruba tribe is far, far superior to Edo in every raminification of life if you put them side by side to Judge who is superior, Yoruba has religion, a bigger landmass and a big population and many deities that solely of yoruba origin and that are recognized world wide like Orunmila, Ogun,obatala,sango,Ayelalaetc ,Edo are just a copy cat of Yoruba entity who is trying so hard to rip off Yoruba heritage and muddle its history.
Beside Eweka I e Owomika,did oduduwa or oramiyan or any of oduduwa children ever lived and died and buried in Edo Land? If not,then oduduwa cannot be from there.neither Oduduwa or Oramiyan returned to Edo land to live or be buried there after their death.
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😂😂😂 Yoruba don’t have a kingdom
If your kingdom is far far how come British didn’t notice you
First it’s oYO empire
Noting like Yoruba
All the ditties you worship in Yoruba originated from Benin
It’s introduced to you by oduduwa
Ayelala is Yoruba dities
Ogun isn’t your deities okay
Sango is from udo not your deities.. you’re the ones copying us.. firs you don’t answer Oba you start answering Oba in 19th century
So your Yoruba isn’t superior because you’re not recognized in the works except the oYO empire
😂😂😂 you’re indeed confused after 1914 amalgamation that’s how Yoruba language travel fars because they sign amalgamation with British ( wazobia)
Yoruba has many language till date
Be4 showcasing stupidity do your surveys
😂😂😂😂 yet you’re claiming oduduwa fall from the sky
Did oduduwa fell from the sky with Yoruba language or mark😂😂😂😂,
Did oromiya rule has a king in benin
Did e lives in benin😂😂😂😂😂
Una copy copy and hypocrisy is too much
@@successgodstime3845 You are Clenging to an over Exergerated Historical past. In modern times no one cares about some Random beed wearing Monarchical Edo system. There's no way Bini would compared with Yoruba in Modern Time's, the only Group that maybe considered compared to Yorubas are IGBO's, even them are well behind.
@@creativefantasybox2462 even in the past history you can not compare Yoruba with Benin kingdom the gap is too much facts.
U are not head Oba of Benin well, Beni's is not frm yorobo.
This lawyer must be dreaming quoting Oba Eware II as stating Bini's are from Ododuwa. Ododuwa is from Bini.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
Yoruba kingdom is too big to an extent that it originated from Ife to entire six states in Nigeria to benin, Brazil, Cuba and other Caribbean . So Benin is jot a dot city, so Yoruba don't need them. The fact is that warri is a Yoruba by extension, their names, culture and tell more about it.
Which culture can’t you see the way their chiefs are dressed like the Benin chiefs, can’t you hear what their king is called ogiamen which is a Benin language. You are either blind or deaf
Which Yoruba are daft when the chides says there’s Yoruba migrated and Benin migrated
Hey man benin became a city in 1991 August 27
Yoruba don’t enough have extension
Lagos belongs to benin
Pls kindly say oYO empire
I don’t blame brat like you if not that your forefathers sign amalgamation with the British who’s Yoruba to look at benin face,
Brazil Cuba and Caribbean don’t speak your Yoruba language stop fooling yourself
first, yoruba was never a kingdom even now not a kingdom,then u are lying as usual
Ibinu haters everywhere the fact that battles me more claiming culture and language that are from us up till this time,well I feel sad for you guys it’s not easy to be a minority’in Benin as a whole how many of them speaks edo language? If you ask me,who I got ask ??
Ibinu haters everywhere the fact that battles me more claiming culture and language that are from us up till this time,well I feel sad for you guys it’s not easy to be a minority’in Benin as a whole how many of them speaks edo language? If you ask me,who I got ask ??
This lawyer is very unconvincing. When the declaration was written in 1979 the elders and chiefs endorsed it and did not object. They held it up and put it forward as their tradition. They agreed that the mother of an Omoba must be of bini (or according to him edo) origin. What is the lawyer now saying ? He wants to interpret yoruba as edo ? Absolute nonsense. I thought the Itsekiri pushing this argument would be more prepared than this.
The keyword is "Edo Origin". Since the Yorubas and Edos trace their progenitor to Oduduwa. That invariable means both Yorubas and Edos trace their history to the same origin.
Reason why Nigeria will never move forward . You see a law and want o turn it upside down . You can have your way and forcefully crown him but what kind of king will he be and who will he be ruling . And we will continue to blame Buhari . Crap
Mr man get your facts right pls, the kingdom has been in existence for over 500 without qualms. The 1979 proclamation that you ignorantly refer to is not law, it was done surreptitiously by a powerful and rich Ologbotsere for his selfish gains then. It was against established precedent and tradition of our people because there were great Olu's who reigned successfully that were maternaly neighter Edo nor Itsekiri. Olu Atuwatse (Dom Domingos) who was the first black African University graduate was born by a Portuguese mother, his son Oyenakpagha(Anthonio Domingo) also married a Portuguese and gave birth to the next Olu Omoluyiri who succeeded him, 3 generations had European mothers and there were others too . The Yoruba make up a large population of the Itsekiri Nation and you can't deny a people their inheritance out of selfishness. Omoba Tsola Emiko's mother is Yoruba and has been accepted by Ife(Ifa) and the vast majority of Itsekiri as our next Olu. The proclamation is not backed by tradition but rather a hypocritic selfish interest. Those pretending to protect the traditions represent all the ills in our nation (Itsekiri) today and its time up for you people
Benin are not from Yoruba? Benin prince flee to Yoruba land, he became part of them,bear His children there, as we are part of Nigeria today.
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
The Binis are not from the Yoruba, he should do a complete research, the Obas family are the Yoruba that invaded during the 11 century, the son of Alaafi of Oyo
If someone was brought from yoruba land to be king in Benin City does no make Edo people to come from yoruba. Before the man was brought Ogisos had ruled Benin.
Meanwhile nobody was brought from Yoruba land
Oduduwa is am exile prince ogiso owodo son
@@successgodstime3845 can you please bring your proof have told you this is 2021 go and watch the video I told you even Benin chief Edebiri confirmed it.
@@successgodstime3845 Keep deceiving yourself with the concocted story of Ekaladehran turned Oduduwa hahaha. Go and read about what led to ekiokpagha treaty and also the history of Usen people, there you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free hahaha
It's getting clearer that, the death of the former olu of warri is not ordinary. Because of these desperate chiefs around. You people should respect traditions the way you meet it.
Thanks. Many believe he was poisoned.
something that was edicted in 1979 cannot be a tradition. Tradition means the transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way.
@@boyoXXX
Imagine the senseless irony. Someone that his mother is Yoruba cannot be Olu, when a substantial number of Itsekiris trace their origins to Yoruba and over 70% of the language is Yoruba.
How the stupid edict makes sense to anyone is beyond me.
Yes the monarchy was established by a benin prince, but the itsekiris were not conquered or colonised and so cannot only be ruled by Benin ancestry. The present British queen has German grandfather for god sake.
@@boyoXXX itsekiri kingdom did not start in 1979
My question is who is the first son of the late king is it shola or oyo pls let me know,if is oyo that is the right person and the oracle said he will die in short term then why not oyo be the king then when he die then shola can take over simple 🤔all I see here is just politics by the chiefs and Interest
Imagine how old men’s they liars
Shola was presented in 2015 naso old men’s they liars this days
Jesus… imagine old men’s this’s the reason why Nigeria can’t work
It is very bizarre many arguments I hear, from the titles mentioned I can interpret it as a Yoruba man, so are many titles from Beninland in the Yoruba language so then it means we are all from the same ancestors and I believe that they were not confused about many of these facts even till this day. I please urge all to listen better before reacting to other people's statements. The reason why we in the south are in this Nigerian mess today and why the North, British government, and other European allies, Americas are dividing and ruling us this way is lack of history, trust me they love the confusion and sentiments many of us have right now. It is not possible we are not related, even colleagues from other West African nations are related. One of the persons interviewed has a name exactly the same as my colleague. My colleague doesn't speak Yoruba but could be related to the Yoruba tribe by his ancestors I am very sure about it. Please we might have our differences but we are from the same ancestors.
Give me examples of those titles that are of Yoruba origin, is it the Enogie, the Iyase, the Ologbosere, Ine N’Igun-eromwon
, Ihama N’Igun-eronmwon, Ogiegor, Elema, Ogiemien, Eholo N’ Igbesanmwan, Eholo N’ Igieduma. Which one please!
Come to Lagos, created by Edo/Benin can you tell me the meaning of IDUMOTA, IDUMAGBO, IDUGARAN, OSHODI, OBANIKORO, IDO in the Yoruba language? All these are Benin names and words.
@@brandiator-io wat does obanikoro mean
@@brandiator-io First of all the word OBA is 100% Yoruba word. Before a Yoruba man stepped in that land Idu Igodomigodo that is not called Edo state, the system of rulership in that land is the Ogisos, it was the Yoruba man from Ile Ife Oranmiyan that introduced Obaship. Now , OTU, OSI are all Yoruba word and those are titles you find in the Benin palace, although they are systematically changing all those name because of the pressure from the Ogisos descendants, Oselu is actually Iselu and it a Yoruba word. The Idumota, Idumagbo, IbiObalede are not titles rather names of places, now Before the very first Oba of Lagos who of course is pure Yoruba man too, we had the dejo chiefs sons of Ogunfuminire ( Olofins) who all migrated from Ile Ife, they already dwell in Lagos, intact it was Aromire that gave the sit for the very first Oba to might his throne. Likewise previous heads of Oba of Benin are buried Ile Ife, to tell you that their ancestor came from Ile ife, get a scientist to make forensic experiments on the remaining (body), your very first Oba of Benin Owomika that you corrupted to Eweka ( that is if one of your previous Obas have not ask people to throw them away in order to clean up evidence), and the heads buried in Ife also let forensics experiments should be carried out on any of the remains of the previous Ogisos to know If there is any link between the Ogisos and the Oba dynasty. This will put a final rest to that fallacy of Ekaladehran turned Oduduwa all because intend to rule over the aborigines of that land Idu Igodomigodo.
@@jaymanjay2835
I studied GNS in LASU a Lagos school and all you said here about the creation of Lagos is a FALLACY. Did you know that all those who claim to be Lagos indigenes are migrants. To the east Ijebus (they settled from Lekki to Epe) to the West are the Eguns and Aworis who came from Dahomey and Osun respectively (Settled from Badagry to Ido) from the Central are the Binis and the European slave returnees, to the North are the Ondo's and the Egbas who took abode in the Ikeja, Lagos Mainland axis.
OBA is not a Yoruba word. The word was mainly adopted by Lagos kings who took likening for the name from the Oba of Lagos forgetting that the Oba of Lagos being a direct descendant of the Benin king Prince Ado son of the Oba of Benin. The kings in Ijanikin, Akowomjo, Iba, Ikorodu etc all adapted the title and it became viral across Yoruba land. The Yoruba word for king is KABIYESI and OBA is a Benin word for King, this is why in Yoruba land they have the Alaafin of Oyo and not the Oba of Oyo, they have the Awujale of Ijebu Land and not the Oba of Ijebu land, they have the Ooni of Ife and not the Oba of Ife, they have the Akarigbo of Remo land, Olubadan of Ibadan, the Alake of Egbaland, Alara of Ilara-Mokin
Olota of Ota, Olowo of Owo, Olowu of Owu Kingdom, Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom, Orangun of Ila Orangun, Osemawe of Ondo Kingdom... ETC.
At these times past only the Oba bore Oba until the Lagos kingship started.
@@brandiator-io hahaha you are using GNS to brag. Now here is your assignment, go make research about Olofin Ogunfuminire and his origin, also make research on the following, Aromire, Ijora, Onikoyi, Elegushi, Oniru, Oloto, Olumegbon.
Now Kabiyesi, Oba, Iba is Yoruba words 100% before the reign of Oduduwa, there were kings in Ife, such as Obatala, Obalufon, Obaluaye etc. Ogisos never knew the word called Oba or ever used it as king until a Yoruba man came into that land. If you don't know, the word YORUBA is even a new word that Ajayi crowther used to Unify Omokotunjire, so prior before that time to identity their domain, they used words like Aalafin ti Oyo, Awujale to Ijebu, Alake ti Egba, Olowu ti Iwo, Akirigbo ti Remo, Onisabe, Alaketu and the reason while Oba Benin was called Oba of Benin was because he never had a free place to establish his kingdom because they were people who are aborigines to that land and this are the Idus, and Oranmiyan saw the trouble he faced and left the land, Eweka the first never even had a solid palace that was why their heads had to be taken back to Ile Ife, if that mode of transportation was faster and easier them, their full corpse would have being transported back to Ile Ife and buried their but due to the stress and time they will spend on the road, they intend to take only the heads of previous Oba, go to Ile Ife you will see the site till date, this are pure and visible evidence, even this current Oba Of Benin visited that place when he when to Ile Ife.
What makes us Yorubas is our language, culture, traditions, norms and value system, if a Yoruba man from Ife speaks, a Yoruba man from Ijebu, Awori, Sabe and Ketu in Benin Republic etc will understand. Ile Ife birthed Benin kingdom that is pure historic fact. The Ogiso never even crossed their villages talkless of forming an empire, it was the kingdom that a Yoruba man formed in in that land Benin kingdom became an empire.
Finally go make research about the Usen Origin, I will be waiting for your reply
EDO PEOPLE tok
The most often highly praised Rufai as a critical journalist displays a very high level of bias, he was just listening to his conceived expectations, very sad how tribal connection/affinity exposes Rufai biasness.
Yes very right, he didn’t ask these set of chiefs any technical question, but he bombarded the previous chief with a lot of personal questions even Ruben abate has to interject him because he was becoming a nuisance
Edo are not from ife oooo,pls chief correct yourself ooo,our king never said that
All prominent Yoruba monarchs apart from ooni of ife are from Benin empire.. This Yoruba itsekiri mixblood Chief know he is lying..... Stop this lies.. How could you misquote the speech of oba Ewuare II coronation speech.. Yoruba and Benin are two different clan...
This’s the reason y Mc jollof called you old chiefs criminal
Lie lie chiefs
Olu of Itsekiri
The man is a talkative and lacks historical facts of the great Bini empire, and even of his own people.
Probably he was from the few families who objected to the creation of Midwestern region from the Western region. Because they said then that they were from Yoruba. So, why is he now fighting for the throne his family said they were not a part of.
Secondly, he has misinterpreted the OBA of Benin statement on the origin of the Bini people, and including his people for his personal aggrandizement.
Thereby, trying to seek support from the Yoruba against his people. And even if it meant falsifying the great bini empire history of which he has no knowledge about.
The man is very frivolous and can say anything to stay relevant. Unfortunately, he is doing it at the expense of his people along with rubbishing the great bini empire. What a disgruntled person who is prepared to destroy his people years of great cultural heritage for his personal gains. What a shame.
Well spoken. Thanks.
Stopped lying to yourself Mr lawyer.
Go put your house in order! Just look at your mood of dressing and that settled who you're, if am to borrow you some senses! Edo don't fight to be associated with people yet others beg to associate and create kingdoms from Edo and that's why we're proud prince and princess of the mighty kingdom hence the silence to responds to your problem from our palace.
Mr lawyer, When u say Edo you're saying Benin. The Current day instance is what trying to separate Edo from Benin to encompass others tribes in the state. When you hear names like Edowen, Edosa, Edoriodion, Edoba Edogiawerie, Edozola etc are all names of Benin just to put you on note n stop confusing the gullible.
All this Yoruba on social media are good in propaganda imagine Yoruba language were spoken in oba of benin palace in the past and no oba of benin ever answer Yoruba name in the history of benin why...you guys should stop fooling yourself
Keep deceiving yourself, if that will make you feel better
Hahaha
Binis are ile ife people esans are aborigines the ogiamen family are the true kings
Not Ogiamen. Its the Ogisos
Ogiemen is the problem benin palace, this is the meaning of Ogiemien, Now Chief you see, What so-call white person don cause big problem to our people, if you like write heaven and earth, We as benin speaking people we know who will are, right from oral tradition.
You are comfortably referring to Olu of itsekire as Olu Of Warri because Pa Awolowo used his political power to award warri kingdom to one ethnic group eventhough there are other two major groups who also settled in warri. The Olu of itsekire is the paramount rulers of itsekire people only.
Yes you're right, Ovie of Urhobo is the original title
This guy is desperate and misleading facts of the relationship between Binis and the Yorubas
But why does our great oba go to pay homage at Ife?
Could it be that our Oba [and his father] is hiding something from us?
Let’s say the truth abeg. Our oba of Benin is indeed a Yoruba man.
History can’t be changed even with the Izoduwa forgery which they’re forcing down our throats.
IT'S OLU OF ISEKIRI IN WARRI. THERE ARE MORE OF URHOBOS THAN ISEKIRIS IN WARRI ITSELF.
OK go and change the title, sobo slave
u have no proof,that is the shame of it
@@unuagbon2 Do you have any to show?
Prince Oromiyan was speaking Yoruba his Son Owomika was speaking Yoruba..so do the equation.
That's not true. You're confusing yourself
@@iyamugeorge5835 go back to elderly Benin chief and ask them…even before Oba of Benin crowned he as to say the word Owo mi ka in Yoruba.. ask your chiefs.
@@iyamugeorge5835 so you don’t know that Prince Oromiyan does not speak Benin language and Owomika too…then you don’t know anything about history.
@@walecheroke guy you read without understanding, don't you speak English language today? Does it make you an English person?
All you thought you read are without your understanding.
Until now, there's no response from palace of Benin kingdom over this all issues like your people did. Animal without teeth rush first to the site of food but getting there they can't Eat.
If we 're not important why calling and references us over olu of warri problem? Cos u all know your facts.
Recently, oba of Lagos said Yoruba where from Benin with fact from him why don't you talk about.
Go read and understand all words from each pages.
@@donren-ew3wh can you make your point without insults..you see we’re talking of 11th to 12th century and you are talking of speaking English language just think about it..this is all facts Oba of Benin refer to Jacob E book on coronation day go and read it..watch video of Oba Akenzua with Sir David Attenborough and video of Chief Edebiri of Benin kingdom saying that there are ancestors came with Prince Oromiyan..you said Oba of Lagos said Yoruba came from Benin.. that not what he said what is said was that his forefathers came from Benin kingdom that is true because Oba Orhogbua went to idumota in 1548 with the Portuguese and established slave camps there and he still the great grandson of Prince Oromiyan. We don’t need to fight this is history okay.
Until 1930 the language speak in Oba of Benin palace was Yoruba people need to research.
where is your citation on this...you should research properly before commenting on a public site
@@geraldegbe3391 go and ask elders in Benin kingdom this is facts…even in Ode isekiri kingdom the language there was Yoruba before.
Stop the arguement..He is right
@@walecheroke stop fooling yourself and stop misleading the gullible people.
@@donren-ew3wh you don’t need to pass insults just bring the facts..Oba of Benin refer to Jacob E book go and read it and watch video of Oba Akenzua with Sir David Attenborough and watch the video of chief Edebiri of Benin kingdom so bring your facts.