Coal Mining and Rural Racial Segregation: Herrin & Colp, Illinois 4K.
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2020
- Herrin is a former coal mining town in Southern Illinois. Economically, the town is actually doing alright, benefiting from nearby Carbondale and Marion. The second town that I feature in this video is Colp, which is west of Herrin and is tiny. Back in the day, Colp was a town where people of color would go live in a region full of sundown towns.
Herrin: 1:56 - 17:30
Herrin High School: 2:25
Former Maytag Plant: 4:25
Downtown Herrin: 10:00
Colp: 18:00 - 23:00
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Thanks for your interesting videos about some places near me (Henderson,KY area) I'm from originally from tulsa Oklahoma grew in morganfield ky area I've been to some of the places near me .I learned something new today watching your videos on UA-cam. Thanks
ahhh Colp... home to the region's only Drive Through Liquor Store. My uncle would often go there in his big red truck, get his beers, and pop open a couple on the way home.
also that big factory on the way into Colp used to be the Whirlpool plant
I grew up in Herrin, I feel obligated to correct the Maytag plant as it isn't vacant. It is a storage facility that rents to several companies of varying sizes. In fact my dad was the facility maintenance manager for several years up to his death in 2017. But thank you for the drive thru my town keep up the good work.
My wife's uncle used to work for Allen Industries (I think!) in Herrin. They made the plastic inner door liners for cars for the big auto manufacturers.
I remember when Maytag used to be Norge.
@@johnmccree8941 yup... I grew up 1 block away from the plant
My father and his sister were born in Herrin, of that was in 1911. My dad was much older than my mom, my grandmother's brother died in 1913 I was if there was a cemetery where African Americans were buried?
Doesn't every small town have a guy or 2 that rides a lawnmower as his only means of transportation. I'm from a small town in Central Illinois. They were there, too
Southern Illinois Little Egypt was a place the mafia out of Chicago and St Louis would come to hide and cool off when they were in trouble in towns like Herrin and Harrisburg..There was a gang down here called the Shelton gang and there was Charlie Birger who was a gangster who had a hold over the coal mining unions controlling them but the mafia didnt have that much interest in it because it was Southern Illinois but Birger and the Sheltons were the trouble makers and they caused the Herrin Massacre..And the KKK had high involvement in the area too but the Sheltons didnt mess with them...But the KKK had a lot of control on other things..The Shelton gang would have loved to have been more involved with the mafia but the Mafia didnt want much involvement with them because the Sheltons were bunch of Hillbilly gangsters and were too sloppy and attracting attention to themselves the mafia were private and more subtle but the Sheltons were quite smart..They had deep control down here..Cairo was one of the Sheltons spots too it was because of them that Cairo suffered so much and failed as a town ..Lots and lots of history in southern Illinois..
Even Colp itself was segregated in the very beginning. Whites lived in Colp and blacks lived outside the village limits in a community called "Number 9" after the nearby coal mine.
True true
I thought all the whites lived in Carterville and the blacks in colp that’s what I’ve always heard from people in this area.
Nice, you went by my dad's boyhood home on 13th st. Spent many weekends there in the 50's and 60's.
The book, Bloody Williamson is a great read.
We used to go to Nesler's Polar Whip restaurant in Energy, which is a bit south of Herrin on IL 148 every time we were in the area. I think it is still there. Very reasonably priced food. All the natives eat there!
Ah yes...Nesler's polar whip. One can afford to get their bellies full there. 👌
Thanks for showing me around my new town!
12:17
That was a true flying ace, being able to land his chopper on such a small podium!😄
I love your videos, very much, for that wonderful Main Street mid-20th century signage.
14:12
I only perceive middle-age people using electric mobility scooters to get around.
Appreciate that!
Ahh yes memories. I went to SIU Carbondale back in the early 70's. I remember going through most of the towns down that way. This is indeed a real trip back in time for me.
Great info. I live in Johnston city. And for its 3600 population we have an amazing Mayberry kinda town now. Maybe give us another try. I go to herrin few times a week. Has so many stop signs. Great sharing 🤗
Growing up in the Danville area, what I've found people in other parts of the country to misunderstand is racial injustices happened in Northern states too. There's a misconception that once you go so far North such behaviors end. The sundown town policies are still alive and well. I was actually stopped in 1985 for such a violation taking the back roads to an away basketball game. Another cheerleader a passenger was noticed and I was warned. 😕
Returning to Danville a few years ago needed by my mother before her passing, THERE ARE NO JOBS. YOU ARE EITHER A DRUG MAKER OR DEALER, PROSTITUTE, OR ON A WAITING LIST TO WORK AT CASEY'S, a gas station pizza combination chain popular there. Years of destitution become multiple generations affected, people lose hope. Lose ambition to even have hope. Definitely not the state that I grew up in. Very sad.
A long time ago I worked for Diagraph in St Louis, MO. Their headquarters was in Herrin. I think the building was an old WW2 munitions plant.
It looks better than it did when I grew up there from 81-96🤷🏽♀️
Thanks so much for filming and posting this. I grew up in Herrin through high school (HHS Class of '77), and this was very emotional to see. The commenter who mentioned Thornton's market (shown at at around 4:52) really rang a bell. For years, I stopped by there for soda and candy and Mad magazines every day after school at Southside Elem. (on 13th?), and was a regular customer for those illegal fireworks every July 4th. It's kind of amazing to see that the population in Herrin is not declining like so many other towns in the area, and the music store on Park Ave. where I bought guitar strings is still a music store (with the big 1960s BALDWIN sign). The old Annex movie theater -- which was basically closed and sorely missed by old-timers the whole time I was growing up there -- now has a marquee out front with "Annex" on it. I hope they can fill the house.
Dude your videos are awesome.
I would have also included the Herrin state park, The coalminers memorial, and red top liquor store A couple years ago they sold the huge millions of dollars winning tickets. Also if you're into trains they have an interesting railroad history etc.
Love seeing your videos. These town is fairly close to were we live, in the little village of Equality,Ill about 3 0r 4 hundred people, Thank you for posting.
I've been to Equality! Here's the link incase you haven't seen that video. ua-cam.com/video/6VGoHNzMo5U/v-deo.html
I was born in Herrin, 80 years ago. I love this area, my family has many buried in St. Carlos cemetery. You missed the part of the gangs of Herrin, Charlie Berger and the Shelton gang.
I lived here for a few years, grew up in a neighboring town, I enjoyed living here.
At the end of the video in Colp when your turning right, the building on the left edge of the screen is the old Herrin Township Highschool.
You drove by a Lewis and Clark landmark at 5:27... apparently they went through that spot when they were doing their thing.
And on the other side of the stone fence there, there's the "gingerbread house", though it's fallen into disrepair.
I live in Herrin. Good video!
Thanks for sharing the interesting history on this one. Was not familiar with the Herrin Massacre.
If you read the book the Bloody Williamson, you will get even more info on the county.
My hometown!
Good as always. It the little things that make me come back. I didn’t know about the blacks down there. Interesting. And I forget about coal in Illinois.. ironically, my grandad was a “coal boy” in Chicago @ 1930. ... and I’ve been black in Illinois for a long time... 👍🏿 👍🏿
You mentioned the Herrin Massacre, the scab workers who were murdered were recruited from the Chicago area. The great tragegy is that one of those scabs was a Russian Immigrant who fought in WW1 in the US Army. He just wanted a job! The murdered scabs were buried in an unmarked corner of the Herrin City Cemetery. Recently they found the graves and put up a marker!
Where do you find your music? I like to visit Southern IL for photography trips and I'm kind of wanting some of these sounds for cruising music!
His music is UA-cam's royalty-free music.
Very nice town
I have so much enjoyed your videos on Southern Illinois. I live in a small town near Rend Lake. I'm from Knoxville, Tn. Marriage is keeping me here. You are right on about the sundown towns. My wife, a wonderful woman, has always lived in a town that is 96% white. In the town I currently live, if a black man stops at Casey's for gas, I get a call from my neighbors telling me about it and asking if I want to join them in watching. I take my wife to Knoxville and we are at Walmart surrounded by all kinds of people and she is nervous. She doesn't say anything, but i can tell. I'm hoping she will get more comfortable, but when you are so isolated, how are things supposed to change? Now i ain't saying Knoxville is perfect, far from it, but at least you have the opportunity to meet different folks and make friends. Racism runs deep in these communities.
My father was born in Colp in 1925. We are white. He and his family of 5 moved to Carterville when Dad was in the fourth grade. He gained the nick name of "Doc" at the age of 4, after the town's black country doctor Andrew Springs. That is who the one street is named after. My grandfather was a coal miner and there was the company store and company housing which is where my dad and grandparents lived. If you want more info on the massacres of that time read the book Bloody Williamson. Those massacres is how the county got it's nickname.
Really enjoyed your video and your historical background on these areas. I don't believe that was a drug deal going down with the two people on the street but in fact and illegal drag race challenge about to begin.:-)
Very cool videos. What a coincidence, but you can see my white Land Cruiser turning onto the same street you're on about a block ahead of you at 13:25
Very interesting video. I'm from belgium and maybe some day in the future, I will move to herrin illinois (my just met boyfriend lives there)
It's a very quiet peaceful town. Very different from where you're from. I recommend light farming, or go do some schooling for a nursing or doctor degree. They have a lot of jobs open for healthcare etc. Be careful with your new man make sure everything's legitimate.
Its the best town in Southern Illinois
He is prolly a meth junkie, herein is full of worthless people stealing from one another. Drugs everywhere,
I live in herrn and you're checking out my city
Haven't been there in years since I was a teenager now I'm 64'.
Wow, That last town doesn't even have stop signs.
at 4:25 , you're actually dead on. drugs are actually a MAJOR problem in this area.
i like that sign: joe's pizza and pasta
At 12:45 we see (to the left) Williamson County S.O. dropping by the bank (perhaps to cash his pay check).
Before it was a Maytag plant it was a Norge plant. I bet you didn't know that. I worked there years ago. You seem to be concentrating on the side streets instead of the main roads; and you're telling all the bad points instead of the good points. It does have good points, you know. Your knowledge of Herrin is extremely limited. The state highway also goes south out of Herrin and takes you to Culp, which you have bypassed again. And your attitude about southern Illinois just sucks.
14:13 It's amazing the disguises the drug dealers will use, isn't it? The lawnmower with a killer weed wacker as a weapon I can understand, but not sure that mobility scooter is going to get much speed, nor sustain gun fire when the police chase starts.
... That's part of the disguise... they're so good at it that the police would never guess what they're up to.
I live in colp but there is no school in colp so I go to school in herrin colp is fill with random houses and every 1 to 2 year one catches on fire I know most of the people in colp because my mom and dad are in two most popular family in colp plus my Uncle does work for most of the people in colp like cut there and stuff and my mom does most of the big events in colp and gives away a lot of stuff to the kids there is now a gas station and I live the biggest house in colp because my family has a lot of money two of my uncles are millionaires and my mom has her own business most of the houses in colp are my family members because my mom and dad's family are most of the people in colp but there is one last thing I want colp is boring the people are fun.
Colp was very vibrant at one point. Herrin is kind of a shit hole, but the massacre was a very important point in the labor movement.
I love Illinois
Im from here and have been here for over 20 years. Its not as peaceful as it looks lol. Shame,cause its a beautiful area mostly.
You deserve so many more views than you are getting...
Go to carbondale, IL.
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bro i live just down the street from Maytag lol
😂
Memorie lane
Illinois had the Greatest Senator ever. What happened?
The 2 people blocking the road at 14:10 were headed to Casey's . As someone who has lived in rural Illinois for 30 plus years they are ALWAYS headed to Casey's
Hey Chris you we're right, them guy's we're selling pills. Lol
The Maytag factory was called Norge in 1975 and 1976 when I worked there. They manufactured washing machines and clothes dryers. I had lots of photos but I think I trashed them 8 years ago. There were several stairways up to the roof all over the while building for maintenance to get up there. During breaks and dinner lots of males & females went to the root for sex. None of the people having sex were married to each other. One day 2 workers vanished they were having sex in a railroad car when the door closed and the train left. 3 days later they were both found alive 2000 miles away near Canada. LOL. I bet that was 3 days of good sex.
What is the most Latino part of southern Illinois
Not sure. I would guess some parts of metro east would be.
Carbondale, Anna and Cobden in this area. There are alot of orchards and that brings alot of migrant workers! Great people that bring great culture to here. I'm originally from El Paso and it's awesome for me to be able to get food supplies I love.
Kind of a tie between the Carbondale area due to the apple orchards, and Collinsville-State Park-Fairmont City northeast of East St. Louis.
There is TONS of history and things that happened in Herrin. Quite frankly I stopped watching after that comment and I’m not even from Herrin. You missed a huge opportunity by not doing your research.
i used to live in herrin that town is drug town mostly Meth and everyone too dang nosy and Herrin Festa anything but drunk Festa plus there a lot racist Consertvies in Herrin
All of these town look the same.
I sadly live in Herrin, I'm the Bubble Guy. This town sucks
hahahah!!!! that was Ed Heart in the road hahahahaha
The Man you should talk to about Colp is Jim Gentile he known all you'll need to know. TRUST ME.