IDK man, There is something about the delica/endura that just has that second kind of cool. Its just an awesome looking design too me...The cutjack just looks like everything else. Delica is a GOAT for sure.
Spyderco heat treat on the VG-10 puts it above the OKC D2. By a long shot. D2 also corrodes pretty easily, not a true stainless. The locking mechanism on the RAT 2 is also very weak, had mine a year before it deformed and started to slip. The delica 4 is a laster, if I was betting on my knife breaking from use I’d go with the rat 2 but otherwise delica can take my money because it will take the place of two rat 2s and then some in how durable it is, the thing will never wear out from normal use unlike the other models you show.
With respect, I've tried the little flipper liner locks. Was not impressed. But there's one other knife that's worth a look because the overall package just...blew my mind. And that's the Rat2 in D2. Very similar in size and weight to the Delica. Bout half the price. Pretty good liner lock as liner locks go--great ergos for the size, good action on washers. Delica is a better knife, no doubt, but for twice the price.
I just got that exact knife, color and all, for my daughter for Christmas--and it's gotten even more expensive since your video. Still, I'm on the GOAT side. While I don't own one myself, it's a perfect choice for my daughter. She's a lefty, and it's truly ambidextrous. It's also her first knife, aside from some of my cast-offs she's picked up and played with over the years (always let your children play with knives), and the back lock is so beginner friendly. Plus, she'll be using it mostly for snacking, and it is super slicey with that thin stock and full flat grind. In fact, I may have talked myself into wanting one.
I've had that knife in that color as my edc go everywhere blade for 5-6 years. The blade has been thinned down nicely so you can't see the Spyderco spider anymore, and she's razor sharp and smooth as silk. Vg10 responds very well to stropping. I've sharpened it maybe a half dozen times over the years and strop it once or twice a week. I have several delicas in other steels, but I wanted to regrind my edc thin and slicey so the vg-10 and a Zdp189 got that treatment because they were the most worn in and inexpensive.
The only delica I own is a gen 1 I bought in 1990. It doesn't have liners and doesn't need them. Consequently it only weighs 1.8 oz. Probably the main reason the later gens have liners is to have metal to thread the clip screws into. The clip on my gen 1 is molded right into the scales.
Never obsolete! I own 2. Sabre ground w/serrations, picked up for 25$. And a ZDP-189, what a cutter, super awesome steel. Besides us knife dudes liking a delica, it’s a knife you can pass to a non-knife person, this is a good thing. Overall beautifully functional edc🤘⚡️⭐️. Great vid 👊
I have owner more delicas than any other knife. Maybe equal to pm2’s. Yet the more i sold them off except my ss version and my s30v zome. Something about the delica keeps bringing me back. Your exactly right about the price point. Honestly to compete, they need to drop the price. The delica should be 45 bucks. Thats what i think they are worth. Funny thing is the endura hits a specific niche, due to blade length. I dont mind the price on the endura at all.
The cheapest I've seen one was $80. They average $85-90 now. Mine was free, but I dont think I would've paid more than $40 for one. Now that I have one, I could see paying as much as $60, but $80 is just too much.
I’ve owned and gotten rid of a number of Delicas. They’ve been in and out of rotation over the years. But for some reason, I always want one around and it gets carried quite a bit. Currently, my flavor of choice is the k390 blade. I do agree, the standard VG10 requires a lot of regular maintenance to keep it the level I want my cutting edge to be.
The Delica 4 is priced so high because it has the UA-cam tax on it; pretty much every reviewer makes it out to be a knife you must own and can’t live without. Years later they’re selling them and they’re still being reviewed. In Australia they cost around $85 USD.
Saying a knife is “obsolete” is like saying that fire isn’t as hot as it used to be anymore. This is still a knife at the end of the day. “Obsolete knife” is an oxymoronic statement because cutting implements can’t go “out of date”. Your whole video is revolving around value, not obsolescence. I’d absolutely agree that the value of the object can’t compare with some other knives these days, but if it’s the knife you want, and value doesn’t matter, then it absolutely cannot be “obsolete”. It could only be obsolete if it couldn’t cut anything, which obviously would mean it isn’t actually a knife anymore. If it could only cut butter, it still wouldn’t be obsolete. So your video, although interesting when it comes to value, doesn’t do it for me I’m afraid.
This being 2018, and the Internet, I must insult and threaten anybody who dares to disagree with me. The Delica is the GOAT, and I challenge anybody to a knife fight to settle this matter. Srsly tho, the Delica is thin and lightweight, I got an aftermarket deep carry pocket clip so it is less conspicuous in my khakis. It is a vicious little knife of a timeless design. To radically redesign it would be akin to redesigning the 1911. This is a classic and should remain largely unchanged.
Good video. Delica is overpriced in today's market. I respect it's history, and think it's a great knife. But too many better options in this price bracket. 100% would recommend the Native over the Delica.
Agree. But then I realize we can go out to dinner and fill the fuel tank and return home $75 later with nothing to show for it and still not have a Delica. Sometimes you just gotta have it. Same goes for the Bugout. People have been paying that butterfly tax for a long time. 😏
Just got (blue) one off of Amazon for $90 including tax, these knives are priced like gold, in that the price only goes up! cant wait to see what people who want one will be paying in 2022? Although I do love mine...sharp as a scalpel right out of the box.
June 2022: it’s $93 shipped. ;) You still own it? Has it held up? (Blade play? Centering?) I’m thinking about getting one. But I am anxious not to get burned again. I bought a Tenacious LW s35vn and hated it. Terrible action. Terrible centering. Bad grind. So I sold it within a few days at a significant loss.
@@cecilm3720 Its still my favorite edc knife (its in my pocket now) and I have had no problems with it, everything is just as it was out of the box and its still razor sharp, I do strop it once in a while but I carry it more than my Spyderco Manix 2 or my Benchmade mini barrage ($130 each) and several other of my $70 - $80 knives. IMO if you want a Spyderco knife that would be my first recommendation.
@@Frank-uf2vn Thanks for sharing. Appreciated. :) My all-time favourite is my Mini Grip. I’m thinking of one alternative folder. Actually I have reduced my collection to said Mini Grip and 2 VICs (and a Kershaw Skyline which IMHO is the most beautiful knife ever, but I dare not use it b/c the tip is soooo fragile).
*The Japanese have been making the worlds best knives for centuries. When you consider the quality, light weight and ergonomics of the Spyderco Delica... I'll keep buying them, especially the Sprint Runs!*
True. Unlike the era of 1960's cheap transistor radios, since the 80's Japan have made the most reliable everything - let's face it - and other countries, including the US, try to crack the code of their manufacturing philosophies (e.g. ISO 9001 standards). Seki City is also one of the world's hub for incredible metallurgy and steel manufacturing with a lot of history. Dismissing that is a bit ignorant when it comes to knowing your steels. Taiwan and South Korea have closed the gap now I think. I have no issues buying knives, like CRKT, or other things like electronics made in Taiwan. I've found them to be very reliable and well made. China is still hit and miss but some of Spyderco's Chinese made knives, and Ganzo itself, are starting to change my mind. We can't just make sweeping generalizations on where a knife has been made. Benchmade has had quality control issues in the past especially with uncentered blades and rub. As for the Delica, it's still a great knife. Sure you can find higher end steels, faster deploy, and more modern locking technologies from other manufacturers but it's hard to beat the ergonomics and simplicity of the Delica along with the crazy strong lock up and reliability of Spyderco's lockbacks. However, I agree that it should be priced more competitively and then it would be the GOAT. At the end of the day, knives are a very personal thing and one person's GOAT might be someone else's reject and vice versa.
Hahaha! I have that same knife in that exact color sitting right by my keyboard. To me the Delica is still the G.o.A.T. and my most-carried knife. I've got one in HAP40 on the way. To me a Delica with a FFG is the knife I'd choose if I could only own one folder. I have that same RAT 2 in the same color but AUS8, great blade for the money. I tend to agree that if you're getting a Delica you might as well spend $20 more and get it in a premium steel. In HAP40, K390 or even M390 it's hard to beat.
I find it very easy to Spidey flick my Delica. And no I don’t have the pivot super loose at all. I actually have it slightly tight because I can’t stand blade wiggle. I feel like some people just need to work on their hand strength LOL.
There's more to the story, your right on almost everything. Except the VG10 Delica doesn't need to go away. I'll have to get my stuff together, Find Bill (My VG10 Delica) and make a video...
Got one new in box on eBay for $50. Didn’t even know about the price hike until watching some vids after buying it. I really got more of a deal then I thought. It was up for $65 but I offered $50 and got it 👍🏻
I've been carrying the same Delica 4 since 2008. If I had to replace mine I would get another but yes the $75 at today's prices is a bit hard to swallow. Personally I like the VG-10 for a EDC and hope it never goes away. A few strokes on a bar and it's back in shape. As far a #5, it's already perfected any major change would be a new product line.
I've had sabre grind for about 10 years. Prying open paint cans with the thumb hole, opening boxes a bit of wood work, opening bottles, etc and etc. It feels right. Just bought a cut jack but wish I'd bought a modus for blade shape. But the Delica is right. Vg10 seems to hold edge better than d2. But yes better steel maybe try ffg but sabre grind has been strong. Curious to see if Spyderco upgrades.
You really hit the nail on the head here. There are a half dozen more compelling options I can name off the top of my head with better steels that are more or less half the price.
I totally agree. There is no question that it's a good knife, but the price isn't realistic considering its competition. The mentality of jacking up the price solely because of the brand name (benchmade, Spyderco) is only going to lose in this day and age of competition.
IA delica 5 with s35vn and deep carry wire clip that would be awsome, and made in Usa, I think its time for Spyderco to upgrade their best selling models to better steel and make them new, the Delica looks pretty "old" in design compared to steel will and others. Just saying, i like your videos
I prefer the lock back over a linerlock but, since I've had a delica and did like it, there are a lot of good alternatives out there but, it's about all you'd need for a knife. I appreciate Spyderco being an American company although they do produce all over, their Taichung offerings are solid performers that are unparalleled throughout the knife world including CRK and Hinderer type midtechs are concerned. A delica 5 in fluted Ti would be outstanding with a compression lock or something.
I own 3 delicas, but i didn;t pay delica prices for them, got two one craigslist, one for 25 and one for 40 and i won an ebay auction on a ZDP189 version for 56. Its a damn good knife but the retail price would only be justifiable 4 years ago
1991 my first Spyderco was a endura generation 1 no liners and molded pocket clip still have it. My first delica. Was a delica too no liners but metal clip.. still own it.. my last was a delica four.. serrated but I will be purchasing soon a plain edge delica flat ground.... I also own a salt and a Pacific salt which is similar to the generation 2 delica and endura and H2 steel.. those I use for diving and snorkeling and fishing
I have a solitary disagreement with you, and that's that I think VG-10 is just fine. The corrosion resistance is actually pretty surprising on it, and the edge retention would really only bother me if I compared it to the super crazy stuff like Maxamet or ZDP-189. I think it's just fine under the caveat that you're already a knife nerd--so basically all of Spyderco's consumer base. It's pretty rock solid, customizable, and classic such that someone who likes knives would be able to appreciate it. I'd honestly go with it for the same reason as a GEC or other pricey traditional; it's classic and nerdy.
I just picked up my first ever Spyderco today, the Delica in VG-10 / green scales. It's really an impressive little folder. Think it was about $90.00 off Amazon - yeah, likely overpriced but I like it...
The delica was my first nice knife back when they first came out with the FFG versions. I carried it for 7 years and even though I’ve owned a lot of Spydercos the delica is still one of my favorites.
I actually think VG10 is pretty damn good. When I take it up to 2000 the edge lasts as long as my 154CM knives, which is well known as a great user steel. I have 5 VG 10 spydercos and 3 154CM benchmade that I’m comparing.
I love the Delica, it just fits so perfect in the hand. Only thing I would ever change would be to get rid of the lock back and add a compression lock or something along that line.
I don’t really worry too much about price on my pocket knives. If I like a design, that’s worth the price of entry for me. The Delica still amazes me with its edc perfection. Lightweight, slim, great steel for edc, and by far the grippiest shape/texture/jimping out there. I have a cutjack and I honestly hate it. Blades too thick, handles too small and (the fatal flaw) the finger choil puts your skin RIGHT up against the cutting edge. Cmon dude…you’re way off on that one
On paper, VG-10 is a much better steel than 420HC. In practice, I have to agree with you. I was using my Centofante 3 today; pruned some bushes and cut the ends off of some corn cobs. The 1" toward the tip is blunted. I don't know how Cedric and Ada guy cuts all that sisal rope and still slices paper with this stuff. This is the performance I expect from a SAK blade at Rc55.
I just bought my 3rd Delica. I previously had a Gen 2 in AUS-8 and another Gen 4 in VG-10. I keep coming back to them, but I'm underwhelmed after awhile each time. 10:40 - I had one, and I don't like the blade shape on the Cutjack; too much belly. I prefer the Modus, so that's one reason to choose the Delica. 12:10 - AND the Native is US-made, not Japanese.
For the price spyderco should at least replace the vg-10 with bd1n. I have a gen 1 delica which weighs 1.8 oz. No liners. They used G2 steel back in 1990.
1. I have the skills to clean, sharpen, and maintain. 2. I just purchased my second unit, used, off eBay, for $50. 3. stainless steel for the increased weight and having two metal ends when closed. 4. I wanted a deep pocket carry, no clip carry. The weight does it for me. It can be used as a yawara stick without breaking it.
D2 better than vg-10??? No, vg-10 is tougher and wayyyy more rust resistant, if you hate sharpening that much then think what you will, don’t state it as a fact tho.
I just bought a Cutlery Shoppe special in Orange with CPM S30V Steel and a Wharncliffe blade for $77 ... So why would I pay $75 for VG10 steel on an obsolete Delica ... Great video ... Spyderco is getting to full of them selves ... I just Subscribed ...
I have pakkawood Delica with hap40/sus410 and has excellent edge retention and is slightly beefier than a normal plastic delica so it feels studier and better on the hand
The demand for the Delica 4 drives the pricing. I have several Endura 4 knives I bought discounted much lower than the lowest Delica price. Compared to the Ganzo Firebird F759M, which is largely a clone of this, this pricing is nuts.
There are so many proper alternatives to the clones, but Spyderco is especially susceptible. From what I hear, Ganzo conditions access to review knives on the reviewer not mentioning what the knife design mimics. Still, though the Ganzo designs are mostly derived from others, they do not pretend to be the same brand or the same quality. In the world economy, many have things to hide. The dishonesty in the industry extends to many, including some Americans pretending their Chinese produced knives are US produced customs and mid-tecs. This re-badging is done throughout the world. In some cases, such as Swiss watch movements, parts may be sourced elsewhere, such as China, and the buyer would not know. When Chinese companies produce near duplicate watch movements, some assume it is reverse engineering, but others know better; often, they do not copy parts, they made them in the first place. It extends into many areas of the global economy, and many US firms may be reluctant to admit the extent of outsourcing.
Haven`t carried mine in a long, long time. Main reasons: replacement cost is getting way up there so I don't carry it at work where it will get abused and possibly lost, yet it looks and feel like a cheap plastic knife so it`s not really suitable for dressier kind of outing, the large ricasso gets in the way often for what I do with a small blade when doing outdoor activities and it's not a fidgeter knife; basically, I have better options for folding knife in every aspect of my life. I won't sell it though, so it just sit in my collection. Also, at current price it is not a knife I recommend to friends, family members and co-workers, it's just not worth that at all.
You're definitely right about the base model price but I think for the exclusive models/sprint runs like the M390, S90V, S30V, or Cruwear, the price is justified.
S’ why I bought the BRG version with the ZDP-189 steel from Candy at the Spyderco Outlet store attached to the factory in Golden. She gave me 35% off and I got my Sage 2 Ti tuned and sharpened while I waited..awesome, can’t do that with a mini cutjack, ( which I own )
Of course it still makes sense if you are Spyderco an they still bring $75 apiece and you are selling reasonable numbers. Until numbers sold fall below break even volume they’ll probably be around.
Saw this video again and had to chime in. Within the last 6 months, since I first viewed the video, I've purchased Tangrams, Ganzo/Firebirds and, most importantly, Steel Wills. Don't get me wrong, I own at least half a dozen different Delicas, many colors, edge types etc and love them BUT, the time for the Delica 5 has definitely come. The one knife (for me) that pushed me over the edge was the Cutjack. Now I have a flipper in a light package with a choice of steels and I paid $38 for the Mini FRN model, grabbed a second one for $21 on an Amazon special, and now if I grab a knife in that size/weight range, I take the Cutjack. At HALF the price of the comparable Delica (or Endura if you go with the full size Cutjack) The shine has definitely left the venerable Delica. Hard for me to say after carrying a Delica for years (literally) but true. Which begs a question: what should a Delica 5 look like? I'm thinking: S30v Flipper ball bearings Same as current price point. I know, sounds a lot like a Domino (except the last point) but hey, I calls em like I sees um.
Oh please no. We have many more than enough ball bearing flippers on the market. I understand that people love 'em, but this knife is a great utilitarian tool, and to replace PB washers with bearings would greatly detract from that. If you want bearings and a flipper, check out WE, Civivi, Reate, Kizer, QSP, Ruike, SRM, and many others. I say good on Spyderco and Benchmade for keeping with the PB washers.
Flipper knives are illegal in the UK and you can't carry a fixed blade no matter what length, I have over 100 Spydercos for fixed blades SOG super Bowies good or Black Jack
I love my delica, but it was given to me. I would never have paid $80 for it. Not when there are so many great designs in better steel available, for the same price or cheaper. That being said, it is now customized end to end, and it's my edc. Go Spyderco.
Decent blade. Carried for years. Owned 2 and rotated when dull. Definitely not GOAT. Not a bad knife but definitely outdated imo. My edc now is benchmade 940-2 for typical use expectations and if I will Be doing a more serious use of my blade, my PM2 is my go to. PM2 just naturally flips, has better ergos, and the compression lock is superior for one handed operating. Delica is not flickable as aforementioned. Requires more inertia to open and close
If price is a deciding factor, then check out the Byrd, Meadowlark, basically the same knife, better than the first release Delica, and with the Spyderco warranty.
Time will tell... but from the extremely short vids that I’ve watched from the 2018 shot show... the upcoming Mantra 3 seems like an unofficial upgrade / updated delica 4. Nevertheless good review with some hard truths. Coming from the owner of last years sprint run delica 4 with D.PS 15 VG-10 blade and foliage green FRN. Also have the Wharncliffe bladed delica. Great Knives... but as you suggested... slowly getting badly beaten in the market place. Thanks for posting!
Slicey Dicey ouch. That would be scary high. Suddenly starting to make Benchmade seem like a bargain if that’s where Spyderco is heading (almost an exaggeration..., I know). But hopefully it won’t be priced that badly. The mantra 3 (and the rhino) are on my radar as possible acquisitions for ‘18. But if you’re right... I might need to pump the breaks and reevaluate where the knife money gets spent.
Eric Glesser said the Mantra 3 will come in at 20-25% less than the existing Mantra. That's less than it sounds considering the MAP on the Mantra got bumped by nearly 15%. But realistically the Mantra 3 is the same construction and materials as the PM2 and Sage 5 so it really *should* be in that ballpark price-wise.
Spyderco's Japanese manufacturing has been shooting them in the foot the last couple of years. The more recent higher end Japanese knives like the D'Allara 3 and ATR 2 didn't sell well because they were asking nearly $200 for simple black G-10 with either VG-10 or S30V knives. The US made options like the PM2 and Manix 2 which are US made with the same materials come in far under that. Manufacturing in Seki City is just not price competitive with their other offerings anymore. I'll probably spark some argument with this, but if I had to choose between the byrd Meadowlark and the Spyderco Delica as a new knife buyer comparing them side-by-side, I'd choose the Meadowlark. The difference in quality between VG-10 and 8Cr13MoV does not justify the price difference in the knives.
From nearly all of my research, VG10 is considered by most to be 'better' than D2 and 420HC. D2 probably holds an edge a little longer, but it's semi-stainless and overall less desirable ...usually. 420HC is better than most people give it credit for, but it's still more on the budget end. Still, I agree it's overpriced for what it is. I'd be fine with S30V for that price.
Thanks! I'm new to knives and I have been debating about the Delica. I think you made some great points. I"m now considering the Native or the Cutjack instead. Thanks again!
There one now but it like $120 in m390. Delica is a bit thin not comfortable for me. You should get a Lansky crock box, it great for edc beaters and like takes like 30 secs
Good review and comparison..The Delica 4 does come in S30V now.. I think it's in the Zome pattern but regular production for about $88... I have the Steel Will Cutjack, Modus and Tenet in D2 and the OKC Rats.. I think the Delica feels a bit more refined with better F&F.. The VG10 is a bit soft and not great but good enough for EDC, IMO...
Yes it does but for even more money and in a pattern that is polarizing to say the least. My point was that the standard one should be S30V for that price.
I don’t know that the Native 5 lightweight is a fair comparison. Thicker blade, chubbier knife, no steel liners. Spring for a sprint run Delica... k390 or m390. Totally worth it.
THANK YOU! Spyderco is way overpriced, especially the Delica and Endura. But saying it seems to be a taboo in the knife community. They can keep the VG10 and just lower the price to what it's worth, which should be about $35 for a cheap plastic handle back lock.
Ha! I've been reviewing stuff on the Internet for 20 years. I am impervious to troll hate now. Doesn't even cross my mind. Hell, I've gotten like half a dozen death threats over the years! Those don't even bother me anymore.
I would never pay even 30 bucks for a Kershaw or Ontario knife. They are too heavy, poorly built and basically throw away knives. No way on earth are these knives made with better steel. There is a reason Spyderco knives still command a premium price. They are worth it. Kershaw sells their 30 dollar junk to people who don't know any better.
I have a Delica collection and you nailed it, This knife needs an upgrade, not just new colours, If Spyderco doesn't watch the market on this fast the Delica is dead, Upgrade the steel!!!!
I have a strop and use it. I don't mind VG-10 at all, but not at this price and Spyderco makes it very soft. If it was still $60, I'd still recommend it to everyone.
Sorry I like the VG still .. remember the harder and tougher the steel the harder it is to sharpen the delica VG can be sharpened in the field with a simple stone or rod... With today's modern diamond sharpeners couple of quick pulls through the sharpener and it's shaving sharp again
Okay I'm sorry but I just got one of these as my first Spyderco knife and I gotta say they are way over hyped imo. The thumb flick open? I don't know if I'm not doing it right but I can never get to go all the way open and the scales just feel like plastic. I just don't get it I watch all these videos and everybody just says they're the greatest knives ever, I just don't it
It's really just overpriced, I still bought one, but it's overpriced. And it's even worse in the UK because they can easily be over £100. To me that's S30V / 154CM territory (depending on manufacturer) which are both better.
Hi I'm from the future they now want 90 greenbacks for the my favorite color knifes orange 🍊 but on the bright side the must be a man to carry purple is 62 on Amazon haha... agree spyderco needs to come back to earth always wanted a para 2 they have midnight blue they want 253 American sawbucks really ? who's buy it doctor's lawyer's 😮....I want one sooooo bad but my g729 in orange keeps me company for now oh well maybe I will find one at a flea market that a old lady is selling for 5 dollars 😊
Sorry compared to the overpriced and overrated Benchmade BUGOUT starting at $160!! I'll take the delica any day! And it's got none of those Benchmade Omega springs to break
Why did you not grab the s30v zome delica? V2 is not close to s30v in edge retention. Tougher? Sure, maybe. V2 is in the 01, d2 or 52100 area. Anyway, yep the delica is over priced. It's saving grace is it's actual cutting performance, it's good at being "a knife" rather than a pry bar or splitting wedge, something that's almost the norm today.
Mt. Baldwin The S30V is even more expensive. I said that the more exotic versions are better values. My point is that the base Delica is horribly overpriced in regards to the competition.
Oh I was agreeing with you. I was asking because you said you had the v2 version on pre order and was wondering why didn't grab the zome version if you're interested in an upgraded delica (same $).
Mt. Baldwin Oh... sorry. I got the v2 because it’s a sprint. I’ll use it for a review, then wait for them to sell out and resell it most likely. Yet another reason why the sprints are better to buy lol. You can get your money back (or better) usually.
IDK man, There is something about the delica/endura that just has that second kind of cool. Its just an awesome looking design too me...The cutjack just looks like everything else. Delica is a GOAT for sure.
Spyderco heat treat on the VG-10 puts it above the OKC D2. By a long shot. D2 also corrodes pretty easily, not a true stainless. The locking mechanism on the RAT 2 is also very weak, had mine a year before it deformed and started to slip. The delica 4 is a laster, if I was betting on my knife breaking from use I’d go with the rat 2 but otherwise delica can take my money because it will take the place of two rat 2s and then some in how durable it is, the thing will never wear out from normal use unlike the other models you show.
The Spyderco Delica is my favorite EDC knife.
Dean Albertson same here
try endela
Try Para 3 Lightweight 😁
@Franz Klein some places endura is too long for the laws.
With respect, I've tried the little flipper liner locks. Was not impressed. But there's one other knife that's worth a look because the overall package just...blew my mind. And that's the Rat2 in D2. Very similar in size and weight to the Delica. Bout half the price. Pretty good liner lock as liner locks go--great ergos for the size, good action on washers. Delica is a better knife, no doubt, but for twice the price.
I just got that exact knife, color and all, for my daughter for Christmas--and it's gotten even more expensive since your video. Still, I'm on the GOAT side. While I don't own one myself, it's a perfect choice for my daughter. She's a lefty, and it's truly ambidextrous. It's also her first knife, aside from some of my cast-offs she's picked up and played with over the years (always let your children play with knives), and the back lock is so beginner friendly. Plus, she'll be using it mostly for snacking, and it is super slicey with that thin stock and full flat grind. In fact, I may have talked myself into wanting one.
Get the glow on the dark one.
Delica 4 is definitely overpriced today, but it is ridiculous to claim that D2 is a much better knife steel than VG10.
I've had that knife in that color as my edc go everywhere blade for 5-6 years. The blade has been thinned down nicely so you can't see the Spyderco spider anymore, and she's razor sharp and smooth as silk. Vg10 responds very well to stropping. I've sharpened it maybe a half dozen times over the years and strop it once or twice a week. I have several delicas in other steels, but I wanted to regrind my edc thin and slicey so the vg-10 and a Zdp189 got that treatment because they were the most worn in and inexpensive.
The only delica I own is a gen 1 I bought in 1990. It doesn't have liners and doesn't need them. Consequently it only weighs 1.8 oz. Probably the main reason the later gens have liners is to have metal to thread the clip screws into. The clip on my gen 1 is molded right into the scales.
Never obsolete! I own 2. Sabre ground w/serrations, picked up for 25$. And a ZDP-189, what a cutter, super awesome steel.
Besides us knife dudes liking a delica, it’s a knife you can pass to a non-knife person, this is a good thing. Overall beautifully functional edc🤘⚡️⭐️. Great vid 👊
totally agree on the zip-189. own 6 Delica's all diff steel, that 189 cuts down 40-50 amazon boxes down to 12" pieces every year still sharp!
I have owner more delicas than any other knife. Maybe equal to pm2’s. Yet the more i sold them off except my ss version and my s30v zome. Something about the delica keeps bringing me back. Your exactly right about the price point. Honestly to compete, they need to drop the price. The delica should be 45 bucks. Thats what i think they are worth. Funny thing is the endura hits a specific niche, due to blade length. I dont mind the price on the endura at all.
At most $60 no more than that, but they raised to almost $80 & that's just too overpriced.
The cheapest I've seen one was $80. They average $85-90 now. Mine was free, but I dont think I would've paid more than $40 for one. Now that I have one, I could see paying as much as $60, but $80 is just too much.
I’ve owned and gotten rid of a number of Delicas. They’ve been in and out of rotation over the years. But for some reason, I always want one around and it gets carried quite a bit. Currently, my flavor of choice is the k390 blade. I do agree, the standard VG10 requires a lot of regular maintenance to keep it the level I want my cutting edge to be.
The Delica 4 is priced so high because it has the UA-cam tax on it; pretty much every reviewer makes it out to be a knife you must own and can’t live without. Years later they’re selling them and they’re still being reviewed. In Australia they cost around $85 USD.
Saying a knife is “obsolete” is like saying that fire isn’t as hot as it used to be anymore. This is still a knife at the end of the day. “Obsolete knife” is an oxymoronic statement because cutting implements can’t go “out of date”. Your whole video is revolving around value, not obsolescence. I’d absolutely agree that the value of the object can’t compare with some other knives these days, but if it’s the knife you want, and value doesn’t matter, then it absolutely cannot be “obsolete”. It could only be obsolete if it couldn’t cut anything, which obviously would mean it isn’t actually a knife anymore. If it could only cut butter, it still wouldn’t be obsolete. So your video, although interesting when it comes to value, doesn’t do it for me I’m afraid.
I just got a purple Delica for my granddaughter!
She loves it!!!
This being 2018, and the Internet, I must insult and threaten anybody who dares to disagree with me.
The Delica is the GOAT, and I challenge anybody to a knife fight to settle this matter.
Srsly tho, the Delica is thin and lightweight, I got an aftermarket deep carry pocket clip so it is less conspicuous in my khakis. It is a vicious little knife of a timeless design. To radically redesign it would be akin to redesigning the 1911. This is a classic and should remain largely unchanged.
I don't want anything RADICAL. I just think that for this price, the S30V on the Zome should be the standard steel. I'd be happy with that.
Good video. Delica is overpriced in today's market. I respect it's history, and think it's a great knife. But too many better options in this price bracket. 100% would recommend the Native over the Delica.
Agreed. I carry my Native 5 LW A LOT more than I do a Delica.
Check out the Salt Series.
Slicey Dicey I’ve got both in my pocket right now. Native 5 LW LC200n and zip-189 delica
Agree. But then I realize we can go out to dinner and fill the fuel tank and return home $75 later with nothing to show for it and still not have a Delica. Sometimes you just gotta have it. Same goes for the Bugout. People have been paying that butterfly tax for a long time. 😏
Just got (blue) one off of Amazon for $90 including tax, these knives are priced like gold, in that the price only goes up! cant wait to see what people who want one will be paying in 2022? Although I do love mine...sharp as a scalpel right out of the box.
June 2022: it’s $93 shipped. ;)
You still own it? Has it held up? (Blade play? Centering?) I’m thinking about getting one.
But I am anxious not to get burned again. I bought a Tenacious LW s35vn and hated it. Terrible action. Terrible centering. Bad grind. So I sold it within a few days at a significant loss.
@@cecilm3720 Its still my favorite edc knife (its in my pocket now) and I have had no problems with it, everything is just as it was out of the box and its still razor sharp, I do strop it once in a while but I carry it more than my Spyderco Manix 2 or my Benchmade mini barrage ($130 each) and several other of my $70 - $80 knives. IMO if you want a Spyderco knife that would be my first recommendation.
@@Frank-uf2vn Thanks for sharing. Appreciated. :) My all-time favourite is my Mini Grip. I’m thinking of one alternative folder.
Actually I have reduced my collection to said Mini Grip and 2 VICs (and a Kershaw Skyline which IMHO is the most beautiful knife ever, but I dare not use it b/c the tip is soooo fragile).
*The Japanese have been making the worlds best knives for centuries. When you consider the quality, light weight and ergonomics of the Spyderco Delica... I'll keep buying them, especially the Sprint Runs!*
True. Unlike the era of 1960's cheap transistor radios, since the 80's Japan have made the most reliable everything - let's face it - and other countries, including the US, try to crack the code of their manufacturing philosophies (e.g. ISO 9001 standards). Seki City is also one of the world's hub for incredible metallurgy and steel manufacturing with a lot of history. Dismissing that is a bit ignorant when it comes to knowing your steels.
Taiwan and South Korea have closed the gap now I think. I have no issues buying knives, like CRKT, or other things like electronics made in Taiwan. I've found them to be very reliable and well made. China is still hit and miss but some of Spyderco's Chinese made knives, and Ganzo itself, are starting to change my mind. We can't just make sweeping generalizations on where a knife has been made. Benchmade has had quality control issues in the past especially with uncentered blades and rub.
As for the Delica, it's still a great knife. Sure you can find higher end steels, faster deploy, and more modern locking technologies from other manufacturers but it's hard to beat the ergonomics and simplicity of the Delica along with the crazy strong lock up and reliability of Spyderco's lockbacks. However, I agree that it should be priced more competitively and then it would be the GOAT. At the end of the day, knives are a very personal thing and one person's GOAT might be someone else's reject and vice versa.
That's a bold statement.
Hahaha! I have that same knife in that exact color sitting right by my keyboard. To me the Delica is still the G.o.A.T. and my most-carried knife. I've got one in HAP40 on the way. To me a Delica with a FFG is the knife I'd choose if I could only own one folder. I have that same RAT 2 in the same color but AUS8, great blade for the money. I tend to agree that if you're getting a Delica you might as well spend $20 more and get it in a premium steel. In HAP40, K390 or even M390 it's hard to beat.
I find it very easy to Spidey flick my Delica. And no I don’t have the pivot super loose at all. I actually have it slightly tight because I can’t stand blade wiggle. I feel like some people just need to work on their hand strength LOL.
There's more to the story, your right on almost everything. Except the VG10 Delica doesn't need to go away. I'll have to get my stuff together, Find Bill (My VG10 Delica) and make a video...
Go away? No. But it should it should be cheaper and a newer version should be at that $75 price point.
Thanks for your honesty and also for the suggestion to Spyderco. I hope they do make a $75 s30v model. Until then, I'm not buying it.
Got one new in box on eBay for $50. Didn’t even know about the price hike until watching some vids after buying it. I really got more of a deal then I thought. It was up for $65 but I offered $50 and got it 👍🏻
I've been carrying the same Delica 4 since 2008. If I had to replace mine I would get another but yes the $75 at today's prices is a bit hard to swallow. Personally I like the VG-10 for a EDC and hope it never goes away. A few strokes on a bar and it's back in shape. As far a #5, it's already perfected any major change would be a new product line.
They're $88 now: (
@@lawrenceragnarok1186 still carrying mine everyday
@@norme2681 I got the teal Wharncliffe s30v version for 88 bucks on sale but I miss the original drop point
I've had sabre grind for about 10 years. Prying open paint cans with the thumb hole, opening boxes a bit of wood work, opening bottles, etc and etc. It feels right. Just bought a cut jack but wish I'd bought a modus for blade shape. But the Delica is right. Vg10 seems to hold edge better than d2. But yes better steel maybe try ffg but sabre grind has been strong. Curious to see if Spyderco upgrades.
You really hit the nail on the head here. There are a half dozen more compelling options I can name off the top of my head with better steels that are more or less half the price.
Between you and JT im going to have to do a comparison video to morrow.🙄 atb paddy....enjoyed.
I totally agree. There is no question that it's a good knife, but the price isn't realistic considering its competition. The mentality of jacking up the price solely because of the brand name (benchmade, Spyderco) is only going to lose in this day and age of competition.
Living on past glory, but I like that purple. I am completely fatigued with black handles.
My favorite thing about this knife is that it's purple.
While I wont give a thumbs down, the Delica 4's thumb ramp is genius. Function over fashion.
IA delica 5 with s35vn and deep carry wire clip that would be awsome, and made in Usa, I think its time for Spyderco to upgrade their best selling models to better steel and make them new, the Delica looks pretty "old" in design compared to steel will and others. Just saying, i like your videos
I agree with you, it's time for a change!
I prefer the lock back over a linerlock but, since I've had a delica and did like it, there are a lot of good alternatives out there but, it's about all you'd need for a knife. I appreciate Spyderco being an American company although they do produce all over, their Taichung offerings are solid performers that are unparalleled throughout the knife world including CRK and Hinderer type midtechs are concerned. A delica 5 in fluted Ti would be outstanding with a compression lock or something.
I agree, the same old Delica is way overpriced now.
I own 3 delicas, but i didn;t pay delica prices for them, got two one craigslist, one for 25 and one for 40 and i won an ebay auction on a ZDP189 version for 56. Its a damn good knife but the retail price would only be justifiable 4 years ago
It is a great knife, but that's the way to buy them now. Used.
1991 my first Spyderco was a endura generation 1 no liners and molded pocket clip still have it. My first delica. Was a delica too no liners but metal clip.. still own it.. my last was a delica four.. serrated but I will be purchasing soon a plain edge delica flat ground.... I also own a salt and a Pacific salt which is similar to the generation 2 delica and endura and H2 steel.. those I use for diving and snorkeling and fishing
I have a solitary disagreement with you, and that's that I think VG-10 is just fine. The corrosion resistance is actually pretty surprising on it, and the edge retention would really only bother me if I compared it to the super crazy stuff like Maxamet or ZDP-189.
I think it's just fine under the caveat that you're already a knife nerd--so basically all of Spyderco's consumer base. It's pretty rock solid, customizable, and classic such that someone who likes knives would be able to appreciate it. I'd honestly go with it for the same reason as a GEC or other pricey traditional; it's classic and nerdy.
I just picked up my first ever Spyderco today, the Delica in VG-10 / green scales.
It's really an impressive little folder.
Think it was about $90.00 off Amazon - yeah, likely overpriced but I like it...
The delica was my first nice knife back when they first came out with the FFG versions. I carried it for 7 years and even though I’ve owned a lot of Spydercos the delica is still one of my favorites.
I actually think VG10 is pretty damn good. When I take it up to 2000 the edge lasts as long as my 154CM knives, which is well known as a great user steel. I have 5 VG 10 spydercos and 3 154CM benchmade that I’m comparing.
I love the Delica, it just fits so perfect in the hand. Only thing I would ever change would be to get rid of the lock back and add a compression lock or something along that line.
Yuck, I hate any kind of liner lock, it would completely ruin it☝
The delica is basically perfect, can't think of anything to change about it, except the price is too high imo.
@@mriphone1000 Replace the picasso with a finger choil.
I love it because it’s a simple back lock .
I don’t really worry too much about price on my pocket knives. If I like a design, that’s worth the price of entry for me. The Delica still amazes me with its edc perfection. Lightweight, slim, great steel for edc, and by far the grippiest shape/texture/jimping out there. I have a cutjack and I honestly hate it. Blades too thick, handles too small and (the fatal flaw) the finger choil puts your skin RIGHT up against the cutting edge. Cmon dude…you’re way off on that one
On paper, VG-10 is a much better steel than 420HC. In practice, I have to agree with you. I was using my Centofante 3 today; pruned some bushes and cut the ends off of some corn cobs. The 1" toward the tip is blunted. I don't know how Cedric and Ada guy cuts all that sisal rope and still slices paper with this stuff. This is the performance I expect from a SAK blade at Rc55.
Thinking of getting this. Thanks for a great review!I just subscribed your channel 🔪👍
I found a Delica SpyderEdge at Wallyworld last summer on clearance for $38 shipped, now THAT was a good price! 😃
I just bought my 3rd Delica. I previously had a Gen 2 in AUS-8 and another Gen 4 in VG-10. I keep coming back to them, but I'm underwhelmed after awhile each time.
10:40 - I had one, and I don't like the blade shape on the Cutjack; too much belly. I prefer the Modus, so that's one reason to choose the Delica.
12:10 - AND the Native is US-made, not Japanese.
For the price spyderco should at least replace the vg-10 with bd1n. I have a gen 1 delica which weighs 1.8 oz. No liners. They used G2 steel back in 1990.
1. I have the skills to clean, sharpen, and maintain.
2. I just purchased my second unit, used, off eBay, for $50.
3. stainless steel for the increased weight and having two metal ends when closed.
4. I wanted a deep pocket carry, no clip carry. The weight does it for me. It can be used as a yawara stick without breaking it.
D2 better than vg-10??? No, vg-10 is tougher and wayyyy more rust resistant, if you hate sharpening that much then think what you will, don’t state it as a fact tho.
I just bought a Cutlery Shoppe special in Orange with CPM S30V Steel and a Wharncliffe blade for $77 ... So why would I pay $75 for VG10 steel on an obsolete Delica ... Great video ... Spyderco is getting to full of them selves ... I just Subscribed ...
Welcome aboard!
I have pakkawood Delica with hap40/sus410 and has excellent edge retention and is slightly beefier than a normal plastic delica so it feels studier and better on the hand
Totally agree with your conclusions
Great review 👍 What would you say is the most comparable Benchmade model? Thanks for making such awesome vids!
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@@SliceyDicey how about with a blade length of 3" or less?
The demand for the Delica 4 drives the pricing. I have several Endura 4 knives I bought discounted much lower than the lowest Delica price. Compared to the Ganzo Firebird F759M, which is largely a clone of this, this pricing is nuts.
I never endorse clones, but there are certainly a lot of cheaper alternatives out there.
There are so many proper alternatives to the clones, but Spyderco is especially susceptible. From what I hear, Ganzo conditions access to review knives on the reviewer not mentioning what the knife design mimics. Still, though the Ganzo designs are mostly derived from others, they do not pretend to be the same brand or the same quality. In the world economy, many have things to hide. The dishonesty in the industry extends to many, including some Americans pretending their Chinese produced knives are US produced customs and mid-tecs. This re-badging is done throughout the world. In some cases, such as Swiss watch movements, parts may be sourced elsewhere, such as China, and the buyer would not know. When Chinese companies produce near duplicate watch movements, some assume it is reverse engineering, but others know better; often, they do not copy parts, they made them in the first place. It extends into many areas of the global economy, and many US firms may be reluctant to admit the extent of outsourcing.
You said exactly what's on my mind!
Haven`t carried mine in a long, long time. Main reasons: replacement cost is getting way up there so I don't carry it at work where it will get abused and possibly lost, yet it looks and feel like a cheap plastic knife so it`s not really suitable for dressier kind of outing, the large ricasso gets in the way often for what I do with a small blade when doing outdoor activities and it's not a fidgeter knife; basically, I have better options for folding knife in every aspect of my life. I won't sell it though, so it just sit in my collection. Also, at current price it is not a knife I recommend to friends, family members and co-workers, it's just not worth that at all.
Precisely. I just sold one of my two (the saber ground one) and the purple one will stay in the collection, but I don't ever carry it.
You're definitely right about the base model price but I think for the exclusive models/sprint runs like the M390, S90V, S30V, or Cruwear, the price is justified.
Now the delica is over $85 for vg10!!! The chaparral in cats xhp is still $95, so we’re just paying for the history now
S’ why I bought the BRG version with the ZDP-189 steel from Candy at the Spyderco Outlet store attached to the factory in Golden. She gave me 35% off and I got my Sage 2 Ti tuned and sharpened while I waited..awesome, can’t do that with a mini cutjack, ( which I own )
Of course it still makes sense if you are Spyderco an they still bring $75 apiece and you are selling reasonable numbers. Until numbers sold fall below break even volume they’ll probably be around.
a GOAT still 2021
Ganzo 759M is well worth the $10 I paid for it. Let’s get real the delica is not 8x better.
I agree unless they update the delica it'll be R.I.P.
I have 2 Rat II (D2) and a Delica. The Delica sits in my drawer while the R2D2 is in my pocket every day. $75? No way.
Agreed.
Saw this video again and had to chime in. Within the last 6 months, since I first viewed the video, I've purchased Tangrams, Ganzo/Firebirds and, most importantly, Steel Wills. Don't get me wrong, I own at least half a dozen different Delicas, many colors, edge types etc and love them BUT, the time for the Delica 5 has definitely come. The one knife (for me) that pushed me over the edge was the Cutjack. Now I have a flipper in a light package with a choice of steels and I paid $38 for the Mini FRN model, grabbed a second one for $21 on an Amazon special, and now if I grab a knife in that size/weight range, I take the Cutjack. At HALF the price of the comparable Delica (or Endura if you go with the full size Cutjack) The shine has definitely left the venerable Delica. Hard for me to say after carrying a Delica for years (literally) but true.
Which begs a question: what should a Delica 5 look like? I'm thinking:
S30v
Flipper
ball bearings
Same as current price point.
I know, sounds a lot like a Domino (except the last point) but hey, I calls em like I sees um.
Oh please no. We have many more than enough ball bearing flippers on the market. I understand that people love 'em, but this knife is a great utilitarian tool, and to replace PB washers with bearings would greatly detract from that. If you want bearings and a flipper, check out WE, Civivi, Reate, Kizer, QSP, Ruike, SRM, and many others. I say good on Spyderco and Benchmade for keeping with the PB washers.
Flipper knives are illegal in the UK and you can't carry a fixed blade no matter what length, I have over 100 Spydercos for fixed blades SOG super Bowies good or Black Jack
@@tonyhoodlass1846 Guess you never heard of a Dremel.
I love my delica, but it was given to me. I would never have paid $80 for it. Not when there are so many great designs in better steel available, for the same price or cheaper. That being said, it is now customized end to end, and it's my edc. Go Spyderco.
GOAT. I like the ZDP version, and the half serrated version.
Decent blade. Carried for years. Owned 2 and rotated when dull. Definitely not GOAT. Not a bad knife but definitely outdated imo.
My edc now is benchmade 940-2 for typical use expectations and if I will
Be doing a more serious use of my blade, my PM2 is my go to.
PM2 just naturally flips, has better ergos, and the compression lock is superior for one handed operating. Delica is not flickable as aforementioned. Requires more inertia to open and close
If price is a deciding factor, then check out the Byrd, Meadowlark, basically the same knife, better than the first release Delica, and with the Spyderco warranty.
Time will tell... but from the extremely short vids that I’ve watched from the 2018 shot show... the upcoming Mantra 3 seems like an unofficial upgrade / updated delica 4. Nevertheless good review with some hard truths. Coming from the owner of last years sprint run delica 4 with D.PS 15 VG-10 blade and foliage green FRN. Also have the Wharncliffe bladed delica. Great Knives... but as you suggested... slowly getting badly beaten in the market place. Thanks for posting!
Ben Kurth I think the Mantra 3 is going to be A LOT more expensive.
Slicey Dicey oh yeah... for sure. Betting that it’ll hit around the 130-140 street price range.
Ben Kurth I’m guessing $150-170.
Slicey Dicey ouch. That would be scary high. Suddenly starting to make Benchmade seem like a bargain if that’s where Spyderco is heading (almost an exaggeration..., I know). But hopefully it won’t be priced that badly. The mantra 3 (and the rhino) are on my radar as possible acquisitions for ‘18. But if you’re right... I might need to pump the breaks and reevaluate where the knife money gets spent.
Eric Glesser said the Mantra 3 will come in at 20-25% less than the existing Mantra. That's less than it sounds considering the MAP on the Mantra got bumped by nearly 15%.
But realistically the Mantra 3 is the same construction and materials as the PM2 and Sage 5 so it really *should* be in that ballpark price-wise.
Spyderco's Japanese manufacturing has been shooting them in the foot the last couple of years. The more recent higher end Japanese knives like the D'Allara 3 and ATR 2 didn't sell well because they were asking nearly $200 for simple black G-10 with either VG-10 or S30V knives. The US made options like the PM2 and Manix 2 which are US made with the same materials come in far under that. Manufacturing in Seki City is just not price competitive with their other offerings anymore.
I'll probably spark some argument with this, but if I had to choose between the byrd Meadowlark and the Spyderco Delica as a new knife buyer comparing them side-by-side, I'd choose the Meadowlark. The difference in quality between VG-10 and 8Cr13MoV does not justify the price difference in the knives.
From nearly all of my research, VG10 is considered by most to be 'better' than D2 and 420HC. D2 probably holds an edge a little longer, but it's semi-stainless and overall less desirable ...usually. 420HC is better than most people give it credit for, but it's still more on the budget end. Still, I agree it's overpriced for what it is. I'd be fine with S30V for that price.
i got to play with a ganzo F759M and their price of ~$17 is totally justifiable as a clone. but i do love my delica with a emerson wave.
Thanks! I'm new to knives and I have been debating about the Delica. I think you made some great points. I"m now considering the Native or the Cutjack instead. Thanks again!
Get a K390 Stretch 2, trust me.
There one now but it like $120 in m390. Delica is a bit thin not comfortable for me.
You should get a Lansky crock box, it great for edc beaters and like takes like 30 secs
Good review and comparison..The Delica 4 does come in S30V now.. I think it's in the Zome pattern but regular production for about $88...
I have the Steel Will Cutjack, Modus and Tenet in D2 and the OKC Rats.. I think the Delica feels a bit more refined with better F&F..
The VG10 is a bit soft and not great but good enough for EDC, IMO...
Yes it does but for even more money and in a pattern that is polarizing to say the least. My point was that the standard one should be S30V for that price.
Can't argue with that..
Would never pay full price for one. The most ive paid was 75 for a Hap40, 70 for a ticn and zome cruwear model. 45 for the VG10.
I think that is a good option for EDC with the plus of their blade hole.
I don’t know that the Native 5 lightweight is a fair comparison. Thicker blade, chubbier knife, no steel liners. Spring for a sprint run Delica... k390 or m390. Totally worth it.
THANK YOU! Spyderco is way overpriced, especially the Delica and Endura. But saying it seems to be a taboo in the knife community. They can keep the VG10 and just lower the price to what it's worth, which should be about $35 for a cheap plastic handle back lock.
I take the bullet so that others don't have to lol. ;)
lol...so brave (slow clap)
Ha! I've been reviewing stuff on the Internet for 20 years. I am impervious to troll hate now. Doesn't even cross my mind. Hell, I've gotten like half a dozen death threats over the years! Those don't even bother me anymore.
Yep, I agree. A Delica with S30V steel would be much better.
I would never pay even 30 bucks for a Kershaw or Ontario knife. They are too heavy, poorly built and basically throw away knives. No way on earth are these knives made with better steel. There is a reason Spyderco knives still command a premium price. They are worth it. Kershaw sells their 30 dollar junk to people who don't know any better.
I have a Delica collection and you nailed it, This knife needs an upgrade, not just new colours, If Spyderco doesn't watch the market on this fast the Delica is dead, Upgrade the steel!!!!
Get a strop i love VG-10 i'm no steel snob learn to strop and it's not a problem.
I have a strop and use it. I don't mind VG-10 at all, but not at this price and Spyderco makes it very soft. If it was still $60, I'd still recommend it to everyone.
Slicey Dicey soft, thats not the impression i get from spydercos VG10, their 8CR13MOV is brilliant thou. P&L 😄
I can buy two SW Cutjacks for the price of one Delica... no brainer.
Sorry I like the VG still .. remember the harder and tougher the steel the harder it is to sharpen the delica VG can be sharpened in the field with a simple stone or rod... With today's modern diamond sharpeners couple of quick pulls through the sharpener and it's shaving sharp again
LA Police Gear's TBFK renders all knives overpriced. I bought the Delica when it was 60ish and I love it, but $75 is a bit too much.
If I didn't already have a Delica, I'd go with the Chaparral instead.
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2 of these for 115?
I agree. I was very unimpressed with my first Delica 4.
Okay I'm sorry but I just got one of these as my first Spyderco knife and I gotta say they are way over hyped imo. The thumb flick open? I don't know if I'm not doing it right but I can never get to go all the way open and the scales just feel like plastic. I just don't get it I watch all these videos and everybody just says they're the greatest knives ever, I just don't it
It's really just overpriced, I still bought one, but it's overpriced. And it's even worse in the UK because they can easily be over £100. To me that's S30V / 154CM territory (depending on manufacturer) which are both better.
i am going to quote nick shabazz here its all the knife that anyone needs but not the knife that everyone wants
And now they're no longer $75, they're $84...
Bastards
Hi I'm from the future they now want 90 greenbacks for the my favorite color knifes orange 🍊 but on the bright side the must be a man to carry purple is 62 on Amazon haha... agree spyderco needs to come back to earth always wanted a para 2 they have midnight blue they want 253 American sawbucks really ? who's buy it doctor's lawyer's 😮....I want one sooooo bad but my g729 in orange keeps me company for now oh well maybe I will find one at a flea market that a old lady is selling for 5 dollars 😊
Sorry compared to the overpriced and overrated Benchmade BUGOUT starting at $160!! I'll take the delica any day! And it's got none of those Benchmade Omega springs to break
Get a Buck mini spitfire in S30V for $50...
That's why I haven't bought one yet.
Ganzo f759m. 7.5 quid??
Why did you not grab the s30v zome delica? V2 is not close to s30v in edge retention. Tougher? Sure, maybe. V2 is in the 01, d2 or 52100 area. Anyway, yep the delica is over priced. It's saving grace is it's actual cutting performance, it's good at being "a knife" rather than a pry bar or splitting wedge, something that's almost the norm today.
Mt. Baldwin The S30V is even more expensive. I said that the more exotic versions are better values. My point is that the base Delica is horribly overpriced in regards to the competition.
Oh I was agreeing with you. I was asking because you said you had the v2 version on pre order and was wondering why didn't grab the zome version if you're interested in an upgraded delica (same $).
Mt. Baldwin Oh... sorry. I got the v2 because it’s a sprint. I’ll use it for a review, then wait for them to sell out and resell it most likely. Yet another reason why the sprints are better to buy lol. You can get your money back (or better) usually.
Justify price is not relevant. Sales and profit determine price. The market corrects if/as needed