I think some of it is intentional,but the majority of it could be us fans caring about the well-being of our Idols.I just love watching your videos. 💜🫰🏼
Taeil has always been sidelined in MVs and it makes me want to THROW HANDS. I love him so much and he is such an INCREDIBLY talented vocalist and his vocals are the absolute backbone of their group. He deserves so much more.
He's also hella handsome. I know others get more attention for their visuals, but Taeil's visuals have killer potential, especially with an undercut & proper styling
Also on fancams when I watch one, I can barely see him. A taeil fancam and he's hiding behind the members and have to be like "taeil bae where you are come here". They say that they are hiding him bc he's the weakest member dancer and okay, but also in mvs when is his part, they show others members. My man deserves better. He doesn't deserve all this.
Taeil's my bias int nct in general. He's the best vocalist that I know of, no only among band members, but in the whole industry. I miss him so much in mvs, he has killing parts in the songs itself, but, in the mvs, he doesn't appear. It's a lack of respect with his hard work to mantain vocal stability and yet reach incredibly high notes to show another members while he's the one singing; if you don't know the group, you won't even know that is his voice, but rather of the member that is being focused on. It's really frustating, nct 127 grew enought to be fair with screentime at this point. I get that he's not the center, the visual nor main dancer, but he's the main vocalist, one hell of a vocalist, that's frustating. Everytime that I want to see him on new mvs I have to pause, sometimes the cut it's so fast that you don't even realize that its him on the first views
I always see that Taeil always gets less screentime even if he has more line then some members we just never see him. Nct is more rap focused, but they can give Doyoung fair screentime they should also give Taeil.
Yes!! I see nct 127 as an all arounder group that excel in all of the areas: visuals, dancers, rappers and singers, the vocal line it's TOP NOTCH: doyoung, taeil, haechan, jaehyun, yuta, jungwoo. But Taeil's indeed the main vocalist and own to that position so much, his voice, in a huge team like that, also stands out. I just get really worked up in the mv's that other members, besides appering more than him, are also the ones who are on screen in his times of singing. He's my bias, so is definitely not a unbiased commentary hahahah but it's something that actually happens and still haven't changed. I don't want him to appear more than any other member, I just want him to appear for a reasonable ammount of time, and, at least, be well edited, not only quick shots of him whithout any focus on the whole video
It makes sense actually, because Taeil is ugly and not one of SM's biases (Taeyong, Jaehyun and Mark), so what did you expect? To appear for 80% of the MV, like Chaeyeon in DIA MVs? This is K-Pop, the place where talent is the thing that matters the least. Sorry, but it's the truth.
@@nikolashakos_ Taeil is not ugly. He is maybe not the visual, but not ugly. Also I have seen people who are often called ugly like Hwasa get lot of screentime.
@@nikolashakos_ he's not ugly. Are other 127 members who have consistently had little screen time like Yuta, Johnny, and Win Win ugly? By your logic that would be the case. When Taeil created an Instagram account last year, he broke the record for the fastest time to reach 1 million followers. While the record has since been broken, I think it's a testament to his popularity that he was able to reach it, especially as recent as last year. If he was truly ugly would that many people be rushing to follow him on a social media site that is focused on photographs? Honestly you seem like either a troll or that you are jealous.
I was so happy finally Yuta, Johnny, Jungwoo got lines & screentime. Like it happens once in a while. But was so sad seeing the reaction video, he looked so sad🥲🥲
Honestly speaking, Jisoo was done justice in Pink Venom. She got her own 10 second intro+amazing bridge+awesome outfits. In Lovesick Girls, she even got her own lil high note although she got the least lines. But in other songs, they did her dirty
@@brennathecatlover4360 the way this user making up his own point when no one mentioned so under this vid baffles me 💀 jisoo's def not underrated, she's been very popular these days. The mistreatment tho, yes. A non kpop stan would even think so just from this vid, come on. This must be an ot3 or a solo stan speaking. Stan whoever you want, but pls don't undermine someone's struggle just bcs you think so. I'm not asking you to empathize with her. It's just that when you don't have anything nice to say, it's better to say nothing and move on.
I was really heartbroken when I watched NCT 127's reaction to their 2 Baddies mv, because it was clear that Taeil was really disappointed, and he should be, since I heard that he shot a lot of scenes for the mv, but they didn't make the cut. He is not my bias, but ever since I started becoming an nctzen a year ago, I noticed that he is the one in the group who generally has the least amount of screen time and line distribution. The only time I've really seen him happy in a reaction video to their mvs, is the sticker mv, where he had a fair amount of iconic shots and lines.
Taeil is so talented and he deserves the world. I have noticed that also when is his part on mvs, they show others members. When they dance on stage, they put him behind and so on. They keep hiding him and not letting him shine. It's obvious that he's sad and had no reaction bc basically he's like a non existent member and also let's not lie, also the nctzens doesn't give him that attention as a member.
Choi Minho should be in this list. He is mistreated by all of shinee's official account, not properly promoting him. They can't even rt or tweet about the Netflix show of Minho where he is the lead.
The only place i saw jisoo properly was SNOW DROP. And i'm damn sure that drama was the reason that Jisoo became more popular these days. Her fancams, concept pics are either most or 2nd most viewed🔥🔥
Sm mistreating idols require a Whole video. They dump old groups(exo, rv) when new groups come. Ok then what abt the new ones. Nct not promoting well, the members are over worked(mark, haechan arent machines😡), wayv & lucas are INVISIBLE. Aespa stylist should be fired asap . SM IDOLS are so so talented, but the company🙄🙄🙄
Taeil's mistreatment by SM is nothing new. He always gets a few lines being the main vocalist and a few seconds of screentime. Johnny and Yuta also deserve better.
Tbh, sometimes having less screentime, center time and lines are normal but when the same member who got the less exposure every comeback, that is already a problem.
I haven’t been following nct for a few years, despite being a fan since the debut… Taeil was my first bias and it makes me so angry to see that after all this years he’s still treated unfairly… to think that he give up his college for this!!!!!!!
YG don't respect Jisoo and it's very clear over these 6 years. And what her fans are demanding is not victimizing coz there are numerous times, she has been let down, as if she doesn't put equal effort for the group.
Nice joke and will keep on laughing for this nonsense I feel so cringey and embarrassed to read this comment🤮 I wonder what jisoo will feel by seeing such comments and how much u r pitying or victimising her too much..she will just spit at shits like u..she will never acknowledge like u all as her fans who spreads lies And sorry, u r exaggerating and still victimising her a lottt what matter u say Y'all just throw the word mistreatment everywhere without even understanding and act like she doesn't get any good things and just ignores every good thing which is more than the shits u said Keep on barking
Just because of a photo, this channel included it to connect in the story. Is it too hard to understand? Actually, most of the Vietnamese fans praised the picture.
Exactly. Her voice might not be the most suitable for most of the songs , but it's very beautiful to hear and she's very stable. Remember her vocals from *You Never Know* ?
@@shatakshik2897 She's in the most popular girl group, she has millions of blinks that love her and she also has solo stans, she is an ambassador for popular brands, she got her own kdrama plus upcoming solos. She is in YG; she gets the best fucking treatment. Her wearing makeup u don't like, not singing a full fucking BP song or she not going to events is not fucking mistreatment, she has more fans than Rosé atm bc of her kdrama. You blinks are actually so deluled and have no common sense is amazing
I'm following New Jeans since the beginning and the truth is Hanni is one of the best dressed of the whole group, also in the debut she went viral for her smiles and she is always praised for that so when I saw the picture I could only think that the idea was to put more attention on her smile and I found it adorable. There are real mistreatments in the industry, but the truth is that I still don't see him in this group, She has good outfits, good lines, good screen time, good make up, I don't know. Everyone in the company is treated well. I can tell that the public loves Minji the most, recently Haerin is praised for her eyes...(I mean cat eyes are very popular) and that in new jeans the center is Hyein, but still they all get their time to shine... the only thing I'm worried about is the reaction of the public since there is a foreign member (Hanni) and a mixed race (Danielle) she just expects to be treated well and in this part the agency can do little more than defend them from any hater.
When it comes to Danielle I've watched a video that analyzed mixed race Korean idols along with the stigma surrounding this, basically mixed race Koreans are treated as lesser by some Koreans who believe in tradition and not mixing their bloodline. Some have been b*llied for this by their peers or even family members, while others are fearful so they hide the fact that they're mixed race due to this stigma and also being regarded as an outsider. There are many idols who are hated solely for being mixed such as Somi (soloist), Momoland's Nancy and even AESPA's Giselle. It doesn't matter what Danielle does, some people would continue to hate her regardless because of her race which is entirely upsetting to me. 🙃
The S in SM stands for Sehun-haters. They have been doing their utmost to sabotage him for years, despite his patent popularity which could have easily translated to varied career opportunities and growth, had his company supported him as they should have done. SM hates EXO in general, but Sehun gets the worst of it.
sm really doesn't deserve sehun and all the other exo members. It's so crazy to me how he's still getting pushed aside after being in the industry FOR OVER TEN YEARS!! In those ten years he has become one of the most influential names in the entertainment industry. Sehun had to deal with CONSTANT barriers yet despite all of that he didn't let it stop him from exploring his craft. If you ask me right now to explain his journey as an artist I wouldn't know where to start. But hey, I'm not gonna sit here acting like he didn't kill it during tempo era. All of his verses in dmumt are the reason why i always go back to that album. Like Gravity??? THE GUY WAS IN HIS ELEMENT! Every time I play that song I get that euphoric first listen phenomenon everyone wishes to experience again. I don't think this ever happened to me with all the other artists I listen to. Sehun is just that good. I'm gonna have to stop myself from talking about dmumt Sehun before I accidentally crash this app from spamming a ton of comments. Back to where I was at before, I find his loyalty to exo and exols very admirable. It's really hard to find people who dedicate their lives to their passion whilst not forgetting the people who stuck by their side. It really, really hurts my heart how sm does not take him seriously as an artist :(. I wish him the best for all of his future projects.
Anything involving SM and not their favorites will equal to mistreatment. SM has a horrible history of neglecting any idols that is not their favorite so I am not surprised at EXO and NCT
Honestly jennie being in the thumbnail was kinda understandable (?) Cuz she has there in scene of closing the gate like shutting the place and the title track named as shut down but I think they could have chosen a better shot from the mv for an ot4 thumbnail
When they are mistreated, don't you talk about the group and look forward to their comeback ? Don't you always look forward to the group activities to see if the mistreated member does well ? Yes you do. So companies can continue with strategy, because it seems to work well for the group relevancy...
i'm curious about Sehun the most. SM must know the schedules of their artists. Plus, they should know that the SMTOWN concert is the biggest event of SM after covid. Why didn't they let Sehun to join the concert? everyone was there. why not him? Sm is suck as always.
Jisoo was always my Blackpink bias, and I know that she deserves better for sure, and for me is hard to deal with that the other members are well treated but except for, and I hoping the she gets that treatment one day and it’s heart breaking to see her being left out through out the years. 😑😞
This is why i prefer the trainee debut Solo from start. Everything is yours. I dont care they became famous take around long or short years As long as they can enjoy their own stage. But sadly, Groups are more focus than Solo artist by publics...
ikr i also feel like that i mean if ur soloist u can have more control on mvs or songs like and u probably won't get mistreated as some group members get and honestly almost 100 groups debut per year with best visuals and still only 0.1 of them are popular national and internationally and the group which ain't even popular nationally can't even make it internationally
fans will literally complaint about anything even though it doesn't make any sense at like that photo when it's literally not bad at all 💀 maybe y'all should know LOONA Vivi and see what the real mistreatment is lmao
The last one is the most hilarious , people have really the time to complainin about such futile things as a photo . She is so cute in that photo how people found her ugly
This makes me respect even more for grp like seventeen. I don't even stan them and I might be wrong, but all these years being a kpop fan never have I ever heard a member being left tho they have 13 members. Having more members absolutely doesn't justify the discrimination in screen time
Yes, Nct 127 has 9 members but the only problem is that from their 6 years of debut, there's almost the same members who always favor the most by the company. Tbh, nct in general looks like mark, taeyong, jaehyun and sometimes haechan and friends. Hence, you can see these 4 members are overworked because they never let other members shine.
If Jisoo doesn't get lines cuz she's the lead vocalist, what about Lisa ? Why does she always get the first or second place in line distribution ? (Lisa is the lead rapper+ main dancer) Like YG, give these girls what they need to fulfill their positions. Give Jisoo some lines and Lisa a damn dance break instead of making her rap because that's what they deserve. (No hate intended btw)
jisoo does deserve more lines i get some ppl think she is vionized but fr tho check line distribution for songs like du du du hylt ice cream and even shut down even if she is not the main vocalists she should still get equal lines she is still a LEAD VOCAL and is apart of BLACKPINK like sometimes i feel like YG forgets jisoo in BLACKPINK
We just want Jisoo to have more linessss 😭😭and a thumbnail. That’s all we ask for. YG acts like he as a problem with Jisoo or something. It’s bad enough that he or “They” didn’t let Jisoo receive her first acting award in person. That this point it seems like Jisoo the only visual that doesn’t have a solo thumbnail like their are only FOUR MEMBERS YG FOUR MEMBERS, an even number
In jisoo's case not everyone in a group gets equal lines and ppl have to understand that And when she didn't receive her award personally I think ppl forgot that blackpink was currently in the born pink promotion era and they were all SUPER busy And wait.... I don't know much about nct 127 but taeil is the main vocalist and has ONLY 20s of lines and even less screen time?? Huh?!
It's not new to us ...jisoo is suffering since the Blackpink's debut era ... I really don't understand the case of thumbnail... yg knows that jisoo is the visual right... then if he can't give everyone the solo thumbnail don't give to anyone
I really hope that these small things for Hanni don't turn into full on mistreatment towards her I think we all know how it is for foreign idols in kpop groups
Because of Jisoo's unique tone, she always got the highlights in the songs just like Sandara in 2ne1 or Daesung in Bigbang. I mean that's why Blackpink songs are addicting, it's because of their formula like if their song is a swag type jennie and lisa get the verses, Rose get the pre-chorus and jisoo the bridge or if their song is a bit cute, jennie or jisoo get the verses, rose perchorus, lisa highlights.
Taeil has been mistreated since day one and will be. Only his voice is needed at SM. He is better off as a soloist. If he had chosen to be a solo artist, he would have great career now. He is wasting his time with SM.
I think people forget that Jisoo in general doesn’t have a very good singing voice, yes it’s unique but it’s not THAT good, and that’s probably why she has less singing lines than Rosè and even Jennie. I know her stans think she’s very talented but just because someone’s an idol doesn’t mean they can sing that well…
as I was saying at a previous video, Black Pink's days are numbered. that's what YG does, uses the group to get the money,, pushes only one or two members, favours them over the others, then just simply lets go of the band. Black Pink has the fate of 2NE1. They will be history soon. I guess now many fans will come at me, bu don't care. This is the truth, that's how YG works. You'll see. Little Baby Jennie (the sweetie of YG) and the others will be just a memory soon.
It's just as Kpop keeps growing new fans are coming in which is beneifical but also will be its downful. Toxic western mindsets are entering the scene. Companies have been more lenient these years with slander and rumor mongering. So people just say whatever. Crying mistreatment every minute, degrading idols appearance. Hating on every little thing, videos like yours that benefit off gaslighting. Kpop was already toxic but it's getting worst.
@@busubalang2361 Real mistreatment situations caused by irresponsible employees wouldn't even make a quarter of the great and hard working staff that are so under appreciated. Just because a certain thing didn't go as they want accordimg to fans, gives them he right to immediately scream mistreatment? Majority of your idols are most definitely not mistreated! Your a fan...you guys don't know anything.
AGREED. blackpink themselves have already stated they get creative control and can choose which parts they want to sing. groups like 9muses and stellar were truly mistreated, along with many. now this... this is just ridiculous.
Please, those who say that Jisoo's case is fair are cynical. They are 4 members, it's inexplicable that they don't have a fair amount of lines and screen time being a small group, when there are large groups that manage to distribute things equally among the members. Tail's case is something else. I was NCTzen for a long time, and I have to say this is also fault of the fandom, because they always ignored him, being probably one of the best vocalists of his generation. It also happened with Johnny, the difference is that for Johnny the fandom did raise its voice and complain about unfair treatment.
@@brennathecatlover4360 You are just a h4ter. The fact that Jisoo used so many vocal techniques on BP's latest album completely disproves your nonsensical theory. And even though it's the most versatile album of the group and having shown that it is up to the task, it still has the fewest lines. I'm not giving my opinion about the group, I'm giving my opinion about Jisoo, and this has been going on since debut. The same fandom downgraded her just like you, because you think you can point out that someone is less talented than another person 🤣
@@pandaexpress168 girl when did I ever “degrade her” by saying she’s not being mistreated cuz she honestly isn’t. I never called her talentless either I just said her vocals are the weakest and that could be why she doesn’t get as many lines. Like damn you’re mad for what😂
@@pandaexpress168 oh yea me saying the truth that she’s not being mistreated and her voice obviously isn’t the strongest in bp means I’m totally degrading her 😂 grow up and stop attacking me when I never said anything bad about her I never once talked her talentless Ik she can sing
Saying NCT 127 is a big group so its hard to give them all screen time in an mv is a joke as have you seen the boyz and seventeen mv’s…..? they have more members and they treat them better.
the happiest girl She got the fewest lines but everyone who heard it said the song was hers.It doesn't matter if you get a lot or a little.Those who have been following BP for a long time will know that the separation of the vocals is due to appropriateness and that the four have the same opinion. 6 years, have you ever seen BP have this problem?that is not a complaint from a stand
I still think jisoo deserved a solo song on the new album.. I love blackpink and rosè my bias but she already put out solos idk just think it would of been fair if jisoo had the solo since she hasn't yet out of the group.. but I love the album ❤ maybe she will drop one soon
i honestly think that line distribution issue on the internet is a bit too hyped, but Taeils one made me so concerned. In the case of big groups like nct, i think Treasure is a great example of line distribution. with a vocalist position, he must get more lines.
Im trying hard not to shade kpop scene but i cant help but analyzing it...it has been like that with non korean members in a group, be it gg or bg. I have noticed that no matter how more talented or no matter how prettier (okay maybe this one is subjective) a non korean members, agencies will always want to push forward the korean members more then the foreigners. The best example is Lisa, during the early stage of BP. However when they progressed to become more senior and Lisa is more popular internationally and perhaps bring more profit to them, only then they started to treat her mostly better if not the best at times. Anyway, that girl from NJ still look preety even with that quality of a photo.
@@kimjsITgirl you're the one being dramatic here by victimizing your fav just to seek for more attention..she debuted as an actress and have her own solo in born pink album what else y'all Want lol bs
True they couldn't even show her face when shes spending a lot of time to learn playing that instruments only to be mistook as jennie or a nobody fck yg
Bruh the new jeans one is an exaggeration it’s just one photo I get people are more defensive over her because she’s a foreigner but they act like they completely excluded her & left her out or something she got her time to shine and I think she looks cute
Do you think idols mistreatment is intentional or is it just unavoidable due to each idol's ability? 👀
I think some of it is intentional,but the majority of it could be us fans caring about the well-being of our Idols.I just love watching your videos. 💜🫰🏼
Totally intentional
I mean taeil is the main vocalist for crying out loud
@@phoenix8060 yes
Taeil’s mistreatment makes me sad :( he’s such a great vocalist. They need to treat him better
It's not mistreatment it's *mismanagement* please learn the difference 🤦♀️
Ding ding
Taeil has always been sidelined in MVs and it makes me want to THROW HANDS. I love him so much and he is such an INCREDIBLY talented vocalist and his vocals are the absolute backbone of their group. He deserves so much more.
He's also hella handsome. I know others get more attention for their visuals, but Taeil's visuals have killer potential, especially with an undercut & proper styling
Also on fancams when I watch one, I can barely see him. A taeil fancam and he's hiding behind the members and have to be like "taeil bae where you are come here". They say that they are hiding him bc he's the weakest member dancer and okay, but also in mvs when is his part, they show others members. My man deserves better. He doesn't deserve all this.
@@b.a.pjiyongikon9600 yes
True
AGREE.
Taeil's my bias int nct in general. He's the best vocalist that I know of, no only among band members, but in the whole industry. I miss him so much in mvs, he has killing parts in the songs itself, but, in the mvs, he doesn't appear. It's a lack of respect with his hard work to mantain vocal stability and yet reach incredibly high notes to show another members while he's the one singing; if you don't know the group, you won't even know that is his voice, but rather of the member that is being focused on. It's really frustating, nct 127 grew enought to be fair with screentime at this point. I get that he's not the center, the visual nor main dancer, but he's the main vocalist, one hell of a vocalist, that's frustating. Everytime that I want to see him on new mvs I have to pause, sometimes the cut it's so fast that you don't even realize that its him on the first views
I always see that Taeil always gets less screentime even if he has more line then some members we just never see him. Nct is more rap focused, but they can give Doyoung fair screentime they should also give Taeil.
Yes!! I see nct 127 as an all arounder group that excel in all of the areas: visuals, dancers, rappers and singers, the vocal line it's TOP NOTCH: doyoung, taeil, haechan, jaehyun, yuta, jungwoo. But Taeil's indeed the main vocalist and own to that position so much, his voice, in a huge team like that, also stands out. I just get really worked up in the mv's that other members, besides appering more than him, are also the ones who are on screen in his times of singing. He's my bias, so is definitely not a unbiased commentary hahahah but it's something that actually happens and still haven't changed. I don't want him to appear more than any other member, I just want him to appear for a reasonable ammount of time, and, at least, be well edited, not only quick shots of him whithout any focus on the whole video
It makes sense actually, because Taeil is ugly and not one of SM's biases (Taeyong, Jaehyun and Mark), so what did you expect? To appear for 80% of the MV, like Chaeyeon in DIA MVs? This is K-Pop, the place where talent is the thing that matters the least. Sorry, but it's the truth.
@@nikolashakos_ Taeil is not ugly. He is maybe not the visual, but not ugly. Also I have seen people who are often called ugly like Hwasa get lot of screentime.
@@nikolashakos_ he's not ugly. Are other 127 members who have consistently had little screen time like Yuta, Johnny, and Win Win ugly? By your logic that would be the case. When Taeil created an Instagram account last year, he broke the record for the fastest time to reach 1 million followers. While the record has since been broken, I think it's a testament to his popularity that he was able to reach it, especially as recent as last year. If he was truly ugly would that many people be rushing to follow him on a social media site that is focused on photographs? Honestly you seem like either a troll or that you are jealous.
I was so happy finally Yuta, Johnny, Jungwoo got lines & screentime. Like it happens once in a while. But was so sad seeing the reaction video, he looked so sad🥲🥲
Now will jisoo have her FACE IN TUMBNAIL IN HER SOLO OR BACKUP DANCERSS 😭🔫
LMAOOO
Seriously I won't be surprised if they actually use a scenery instead of her face
lol
I dont even think she's going to have one
Maybe just her shadow or a background
Honestly speaking, Jisoo was done justice in Pink Venom. She got her own 10 second intro+amazing bridge+awesome outfits.
In Lovesick Girls, she even got her own lil high note although she got the least lines.
But in other songs, they did her dirty
Bruh jisoo isn’t even underrated nor mistreated lmao
The intro in which she was barely visible 👍🏻
@@brennathecatlover4360 the way this user making up his own point when no one mentioned so under this vid baffles me 💀 jisoo's def not underrated, she's been very popular these days. The mistreatment tho, yes. A non kpop stan would even think so just from this vid, come on.
This must be an ot3 or a solo stan speaking. Stan whoever you want, but pls don't undermine someone's struggle just bcs you think so. I'm not asking you to empathize with her. It's just that when you don't have anything nice to say, it's better to say nothing and move on.
@Keep barking we shut you down shes not mistreated. Shes mismanaged
@@hllmoi6518 shes not mistreated. Shes mismanaged
The Hanni pic is literally so adorable
Agree
agreed.
So called Vietnamese netizens are trying create a problem that doesn't exist
fr 😍
yeah i dont get it.. its a pretty picture
Justice for Taeil
I was really heartbroken when I watched NCT 127's reaction to their 2 Baddies mv, because it was clear that Taeil was really disappointed, and he should be, since I heard that he shot a lot of scenes for the mv, but they didn't make the cut. He is not my bias, but ever since I started becoming an nctzen a year ago, I noticed that he is the one in the group who generally has the least amount of screen time and line distribution. The only time I've really seen him happy in a reaction video to their mvs, is the sticker mv, where he had a fair amount of iconic shots and lines.
Not a 127 fan but damn that Taeil situation is indeed sad. He had 20secs but less than 1 sec of screentime? Yikes SM
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The taeil one??? Saddest shit ever
It’s sad these idols get mistreated and taeil looked rlly disappointed and he barely got any screentime ☹️
Taeil is so talented and he deserves the world. I have noticed that also when is his part on mvs, they show others members. When they dance on stage, they put him behind and so on. They keep hiding him and not letting him shine. It's obvious that he's sad and had no reaction bc basically he's like a non existent member and also let's not lie, also the nctzens doesn't give him that attention as a member.
Choi Minho should be in this list. He is mistreated by all of shinee's official account, not properly promoting him. They can't even rt or tweet about the Netflix show of Minho where he is the lead.
which show?
@@athensuye6105 The fabulous I guess
The only place i saw jisoo properly was SNOW DROP. And i'm damn sure that drama was the reason that Jisoo became more popular these days. Her fancams, concept pics are either most or 2nd most viewed🔥🔥
Sm mistreating idols require a Whole video. They dump old groups(exo, rv) when new groups come. Ok then what abt the new ones. Nct not promoting well, the members are over worked(mark, haechan arent machines😡), wayv & lucas are INVISIBLE. Aespa stylist should be fired asap . SM IDOLS are so so talented, but the company🙄🙄🙄
Yes
Taeil's mistreatment by SM is nothing new. He always gets a few lines being the main vocalist and a few seconds of screentime. Johnny and Yuta also deserve better.
I’m always disappointed when I see the mistreatment but not surprised. The M in SM stands for mistreatment.
Our baby tail don't be upset we'll always support you
i'm always mad about the taeil screen time and lines because its so unfair hes so talented and it hurts sm not using his talent .
Tbh, sometimes having less screentime, center time and lines are normal but when the same member who got the less exposure every comeback, that is already a problem.
Agree
I haven’t been following nct for a few years, despite being a fan since the debut… Taeil was my first bias and it makes me so angry to see that after all this years he’s still treated unfairly… to think that he give up his college for this!!!!!!!
My baby taeil he deserve better 🥺💔
A bad angle doesn't make hanni ugly. She always shines bright along the other girls. They are family, don't try to create problems that don't exist.
This channel is creating their own stuff.None complaint about that photo .
i dont even understand how they think she looks bad in the photo?! she looks good!
@@hnyuq4049 none of the fans said .this channel is making their own narratives.
I don't know how peoples like this video. It has 1.1k like and under 100 dislike
YG don't respect Jisoo and it's very clear over these 6 years. And what her fans are demanding is not victimizing coz there are numerous times, she has been let down, as if she doesn't put equal effort for the group.
ikr!!! this is ridiculous....every member on thumbnail and the visual is no where seen
Yes u guys are like u guys will throw around mistreatment acting like they don’t get shit and are abused when that’s far from the truth
Nice joke and will keep on laughing for this nonsense
I feel so cringey and embarrassed to read this comment🤮
I wonder what jisoo will feel by seeing such comments and how much u r pitying or victimising her too much..she will just spit at shits like u..she will never acknowledge like u all as her fans who spreads lies
And sorry, u r exaggerating and still victimising her a lottt what matter u say
Y'all just throw the word mistreatment everywhere without even understanding and act like she doesn't get any good things and just ignores every good thing which is more than the shits u said
Keep on barking
She's consistently the worst performer of the group since debut. I doubt she puts in equal effort.
As a Viet fan of NJ, I find Hanni's photo adorable 😘
Just because of a photo, this channel included it to connect in the story. Is it too hard to understand? Actually, most of the Vietnamese fans praised the picture.
Jisoo is so TALENTED and pretty I just dont get YG mistreating her😩😭
How the FUCK is she mistreated??
@@swrzyy you're a snowflake
@@swrzyy No offence, but I'm surprised by your reply.
Exactly. Her voice might not be the most suitable for most of the songs , but it's very beautiful to hear and she's very stable. Remember her vocals from *You Never Know* ?
@@shatakshik2897 She's in the most popular girl group, she has millions of blinks that love her and she also has solo stans, she is an ambassador for popular brands, she got her own kdrama plus upcoming solos. She is in YG; she gets the best fucking treatment. Her wearing makeup u don't like, not singing a full fucking BP song or she not going to events is not fucking mistreatment, she has more fans than Rosé atm bc of her kdrama. You blinks are actually so deluled and have no common sense is amazing
So, you're telling me that despite being a main vocalist, taeil gets only 20 secs of lines and most of that is adlibs? O My God
Which song
Agree
@@suyeesia7770 2 baddies
@@suiim_jpn true
I'm following New Jeans since the beginning and the truth is Hanni is one of the best dressed of the whole group, also in the debut she went viral for her smiles and she is always praised for that so when I saw the picture I could only think that the idea was to put more attention on her smile and I found it adorable. There are real mistreatments in the industry, but the truth is that I still don't see him in this group, She has good outfits, good lines, good screen time, good make up, I don't know. Everyone in the company is treated well.
I can tell that the public loves Minji the most, recently Haerin is praised for her eyes...(I mean cat eyes are very popular) and that in new jeans the center is Hyein, but still they all get their time to shine... the only thing I'm worried about is the reaction of the public since there is a foreign member (Hanni) and a mixed race (Danielle) she just expects to be treated well and in this part the agency can do little more than defend them from any hater.
When it comes to Danielle I've watched a video that analyzed mixed race Korean idols along with the stigma surrounding this, basically mixed race Koreans are treated as lesser by some Koreans who believe in tradition and not mixing their bloodline. Some have been b*llied for this by their peers or even family members, while others are fearful so they hide the fact that they're mixed race due to this stigma and also being regarded as an outsider. There are many idols who are hated solely for being mixed such as Somi (soloist), Momoland's Nancy and even AESPA's Giselle. It doesn't matter what Danielle does, some people would continue to hate her regardless because of her race which is entirely upsetting to me. 🙃
These "fans" are just superficial and don't know what actual "mistreatment" is
@@aestheticcat8976 it’s cause they are homogenous and Christian
The S in SM stands for Sehun-haters. They have been doing their utmost to sabotage him for years, despite his patent popularity which could have easily translated to varied career opportunities and growth, had his company supported him as they should have done.
SM hates EXO in general, but Sehun gets the worst of it.
sm really doesn't deserve sehun and all the other exo members. It's so crazy to me how he's still getting pushed aside after being in the industry FOR OVER TEN YEARS!! In those ten years he has become one of the most influential names in the entertainment industry. Sehun had to deal with CONSTANT barriers yet despite all of that he didn't let it stop him from exploring his craft. If you ask me right now to explain his journey as an artist I wouldn't know where to start. But hey, I'm not gonna sit here acting like he didn't kill it during tempo era. All of his verses in dmumt are the reason why i always go back to that album. Like Gravity??? THE GUY WAS IN HIS ELEMENT! Every time I play that song I get that euphoric first listen phenomenon everyone wishes to experience again. I don't think this ever happened to me with all the other artists I listen to. Sehun is just that good. I'm gonna have to stop myself from talking about dmumt Sehun before I accidentally crash this app from spamming a ton of comments. Back to where I was at before, I find his loyalty to exo and exols very admirable. It's really hard to find people who dedicate their lives to their passion whilst not forgetting the people who stuck by their side. It really, really hurts my heart how sm does not take him seriously as an artist :(. I wish him the best for all of his future projects.
@@jooniekosmos2120 yes
Anything involving SM and not their favorites will equal to mistreatment. SM has a horrible history of neglecting any idols that is not their favorite so I am not surprised at EXO and NCT
agree
If this is really a trend than It was there and gonna be there in future too
As a NCT stan Nct and Sm don't deserve Teail
Getting less lines or receiving worse outfits is not mistreatment. Really, y’all so sensitive.
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Taeil really does deserve better than how SM treats him.
I love taeil so much. He deserves much better
Honestly jennie being in the thumbnail was kinda understandable (?) Cuz she has there in scene of closing the gate like shutting the place and the title track named as shut down but I think they could have chosen a better shot from the mv for an ot4 thumbnail
Yet there were many shots they could have chose as the thumbnail, not to mention it looked very random
bro..is that only the angle to take for a thumbnail??they couldve taken a pic where everyone was included..dont make some lame excuses
@@kimjsITgirl Did you read the entire comment? I said that they could have used a better ot4 Pic instead
@@leviosa7777 thats what i said
This is the sad truth idols always get mistreated, hope that changes🤷🏻♀️😔
I always feels bad for Winwin, Taeil and Yuta
Me too
When they are mistreated, don't you talk about the group and look forward to their comeback ? Don't you always look forward to the group activities to see if the mistreated member does well ? Yes you do. So companies can continue with strategy, because it seems to work well for the group relevancy...
Taeil indeed deserves better.
the Hanni pic looks fantastic it shows her beautiful smile perfectly
I don't think hani's photo is bad at all, she looks really pretty and I think her photo is the best one out of the group.
i dont know anyting about nct but i feel really sorry for that taeil guy
Please stop throwing the word mistreatment around. They are all being MISMANAGED, not mistreated.
i'm curious about Sehun the most. SM must know the schedules of their artists. Plus, they should know that the SMTOWN concert is the biggest event of SM after covid. Why didn't they let Sehun to join the concert? everyone was there. why not him? Sm is suck as always.
Agree
Tail deserves so much better.
Jisoo case is sad not only company but many blinks also treated her badly
Right now thing have started improving
hanni’s pic is my favourite it’s perfect imo
mistreatment is such a serious word..i would rather say these idols have been treated unfairly compared to their counterparts in the same group
In case of line distribution... Someone have to be last and overall someone have to be the least popular or the least favored
mind you… taeil is the main vocalist and constantly last in screen time.
Yeah, but they can't always be last in all songs
@@breadandjiminslostjams2459 yes
Jisoo doesn't have a problem but, it seems channel like this needs content for their video so,....yap yap never stops!
Jisoo was always my Blackpink bias, and I know that she deserves better for sure, and for me is hard to deal with that the other members are well treated but except for, and I hoping the she gets that treatment one day and it’s heart breaking to see her being left out through out the years. 😑😞
The first 3 issues are legit but the Hanni issue is overreaction
The NCT 127 video is so sad to watch :( poor taeil… that is absolutely ridiculous
Imagine being THE MAIN VOCALIST and not getting lines or screen time SME treated him like some dozen untalented member
True
Their should be a hash tag justice4taeil
Yes
This is why i prefer the trainee debut Solo from start.
Everything is yours.
I dont care they became famous take around long or short years
As long as they can enjoy their own stage.
But sadly, Groups are more focus than Solo artist by publics...
ikr i also feel like that i mean if ur soloist u can have more control on mvs or songs like and u probably won't get mistreated as some group members get and honestly almost 100 groups debut per year with best visuals and still only 0.1 of them are popular national and internationally and the group which ain't even popular nationally can't even make it internationally
fans will literally complaint about anything even though it doesn't make any sense at like that photo when it's literally not bad at all 💀 maybe y'all should know LOONA Vivi and see what the real mistreatment is lmao
Taeil 💚
The last one is the most hilarious , people have really the time to complainin about such futile things as a photo . She is so cute in that photo how people found her ugly
if she’s ugly in that photo, i don’t even wanna know what they’d say about my bad photos. the standards are crazyyy
@@hnyuq4049 sorry I wrote the comment in a wrong way, my English is so bad 😅 I just wanted to say that hanni is cute In that photo
This makes me respect even more for grp like seventeen. I don't even stan them and I might be wrong, but all these years being a kpop fan never have I ever heard a member being left tho they have 13 members. Having more members absolutely doesn't justify the discrimination in screen time
Yes
nct 127 has 9 members
Yes, Nct 127 has 9 members but the only problem is that from their 6 years of debut, there's almost the same members who always favor the most by the company. Tbh, nct in general looks like mark, taeyong, jaehyun and sometimes haechan and friends. Hence, you can see these 4 members are overworked because they never let other members shine.
@@judezalabadan1672 you’re right but i just corrected the wrong information in the video
@@judezalabadan1672 yes
If Jisoo doesn't get lines cuz she's the lead vocalist, what about Lisa ? Why does she always get the first or second place in line distribution ? (Lisa is the lead rapper+ main dancer)
Like YG, give these girls what they need to fulfill their positions. Give Jisoo some lines and Lisa a damn dance break instead of making her rap because that's what they deserve. (No hate intended btw)
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Taeil shell become a soloist, he is a good singer
Nah cause how does the Main Dancer get more lines than the Lead Vocalist?!!!
Coz she is better than ur untalented fav
How does main dancer and rapper get solo before lead vocalist
@@pandaexpress168 Jennie is main rapper and lead vocalist too. Not to mention the longest trainee.
It's between Lisa and Jisoo who will get the least lines and Lisa's lines are mainly repetitive.
@@j.a9558
So that doesn't mean jisoo will compromise for her
Honestly hanni looks beautiful. I couldn’t even tell there was an issue
I swear, I love your voice so muchh
Thank you hehe ^^
jisoo does deserve more lines i get some ppl think she is vionized but fr tho check line distribution for songs like du du du hylt ice cream and even shut down
even if she is not the main vocalists she should still get equal lines she is still a LEAD VOCAL and is apart of BLACKPINK
like sometimes i feel like YG forgets jisoo in BLACKPINK
True
We just want Jisoo to have more linessss 😭😭and a thumbnail. That’s all we ask for. YG acts like he as a problem with Jisoo or something. It’s bad enough that he or “They” didn’t let Jisoo receive her first acting award in person. That this point it seems like Jisoo the only visual that doesn’t have a solo thumbnail like their are only FOUR MEMBERS YG FOUR MEMBERS, an even number
In jisoo's case not everyone in a group gets equal lines and ppl have to understand that
And when she didn't receive her award personally I think ppl forgot that blackpink was currently in the born pink promotion era and they were all SUPER busy
And wait....
I don't know much about nct 127 but taeil is the main vocalist and has ONLY 20s of lines and even less screen time??
Huh?!
Mistreating isnt the same as mismanagement . Pls dont confuse the two.
In my opinion,
Case 1. Mistreatment
Case 2. Mistreatment
Case 3. Mistreatment
Case 4. Over-sensitive fans.
It's not new to us ...jisoo is suffering since the Blackpink's debut era ... I really don't understand the case of thumbnail... yg knows that jisoo is the visual right... then if he can't give everyone the solo thumbnail don't give to anyone
I really hope that these small things for Hanni don't turn into full on mistreatment towards her
I think we all know how it is for foreign idols in kpop groups
Because of Jisoo's unique tone, she always got the highlights in the songs just like Sandara in 2ne1 or Daesung in Bigbang. I mean that's why Blackpink songs are addicting, it's because of their formula like if their song is a swag type jennie and lisa get the verses, Rose get the pre-chorus and jisoo the bridge or if their song is a bit cute, jennie or jisoo get the verses, rose perchorus, lisa highlights.
Taeil has been mistreated since day one and will be. Only his voice is needed at SM. He is better off as a soloist. If he had chosen to be a solo artist, he would have great career now. He is wasting his time with SM.
All of the cases were ABSOLUTE mistreatment
Yes it's True! They Will get mistreated
i cant belive you for not adding lee know from straykids
I think people forget that Jisoo in general doesn’t have a very good singing voice, yes it’s unique but it’s not THAT good, and that’s probably why she has less singing lines than Rosè and even Jennie. I know her stans think she’s very talented but just because someone’s an idol doesn’t mean they can sing that well…
Was calling Jisoo an incompetent singer really necessary
Very unnecessary
No
as I was saying at a previous video, Black Pink's days are numbered. that's what YG does, uses the group to get the money,, pushes only one or two members, favours them over the others, then just simply lets go of the band. Black Pink has the fate of 2NE1. They will be history soon. I guess now many fans will come at me, bu don't care. This is the truth, that's how YG works. You'll see. Little Baby Jennie (the sweetie of YG) and the others will be just a memory soon.
It's just as Kpop keeps growing new fans are coming in which is beneifical but also will be its downful. Toxic western mindsets are entering the scene. Companies have been more lenient these years with slander and rumor mongering. So people just say whatever. Crying mistreatment every minute, degrading idols appearance. Hating on every little thing, videos like yours that benefit off gaslighting. Kpop was already toxic but it's getting worst.
It's long ago mistreatment exist, but just now this problem getting many attention.
@@busubalang2361 Real mistreatment situations caused by irresponsible employees wouldn't even make a quarter of the great and hard working staff that are so under appreciated. Just because a certain thing didn't go as they want accordimg to fans, gives them he right to immediately scream mistreatment? Majority of your idols are most definitely not mistreated! Your a fan...you guys don't know anything.
AGREED.
blackpink themselves have already stated they get creative control and can choose which parts they want to sing.
groups like 9muses and stellar were truly mistreated, along with many.
now this... this is just ridiculous.
@@j.a9558 Calm down dear...I know what you mean. Sorry if any of my words seem offended you. I'm not native speaker.
Please, those who say that Jisoo's case is fair are cynical. They are 4 members, it's inexplicable that they don't have a fair amount of lines and screen time being a small group, when there are large groups that manage to distribute things equally among the members.
Tail's case is something else. I was NCTzen for a long time, and I have to say this is also fault of the fandom, because they always ignored him, being probably one of the best vocalists of his generation. It also happened with Johnny, the difference is that for Johnny the fandom did raise its voice and complain about unfair treatment.
Or maybe it’s cuz jisoo has the weakest vocals or her voice isn’t the best for her songs is the reason like bruh she and bp aren’t being mistreated
@@brennathecatlover4360
You are just a h4ter. The fact that Jisoo used so many vocal techniques on BP's latest album completely disproves your nonsensical theory. And even though it's the most versatile album of the group and having shown that it is up to the task, it still has the fewest lines.
I'm not giving my opinion about the group, I'm giving my opinion about Jisoo, and this has been going on since debut. The same fandom downgraded her just like you, because you think you can point out that someone is less talented than another person 🤣
@@brennathecatlover4360
Are you that obsessed with jisoo, commenting on every reply, to degrade her
@@pandaexpress168 girl when did I ever “degrade her” by saying she’s not being mistreated cuz she honestly isn’t. I never called her talentless either I just said her vocals are the weakest and that could be why she doesn’t get as many lines. Like damn you’re mad for what😂
@@pandaexpress168 oh yea me saying the truth that she’s not being mistreated and her voice obviously isn’t the strongest in bp means I’m totally degrading her 😂 grow up and stop attacking me when I never said anything bad about her I never once talked her talentless Ik she can sing
Saying NCT 127 is a big group so its hard to give them all screen time in an mv is a joke as have you seen the boyz and seventeen mv’s…..? they have more members and they treat them better.
Agree
.....possibly phasing out #taeil as he's going to military soon....this is SAD and maddening how taeil was treated this promo time.
Yes
the happiest girl She got the fewest lines but everyone who heard it said the song was hers.It doesn't matter if you get a lot or a little.Those who have been following BP for a long time will know that the separation of the vocals is due to appropriateness and that the four have the same opinion. 6 years, have you ever seen BP have this problem?that is not a complaint from a stand
I love nct 127 but I swear that I sometimes forget that Taeil exist😭
SM you do him dirty
there are 9 members in nct 127 btw
I still think jisoo deserved a solo song on the new album.. I love blackpink and rosè my bias but she already put out solos idk just think it would of been fair if jisoo had the solo since she hasn't yet out of the group.. but I love the album ❤ maybe she will drop one soon
i honestly think that line distribution issue on the internet is a bit too hyped, but Taeils one made me so concerned. In the case of big groups like nct, i think Treasure is a great example of line distribution. with a vocalist position, he must get more lines.
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This is unfair. #JisooDeservesBetter
#TaeilDeservesBetter
#SehunDeservesBetter
#KpopIdolsDeserveBetter
Im trying hard not to shade kpop scene but i cant help but analyzing it...it has been like that with non korean members in a group, be it gg or bg. I have noticed that no matter how more talented or no matter how prettier (okay maybe this one is subjective) a non korean members, agencies will always want to push forward the korean members more then the foreigners. The best example is Lisa, during the early stage of BP. However when they progressed to become more senior and Lisa is more popular internationally and perhaps bring more profit to them, only then they started to treat her mostly better if not the best at times.
Anyway, that girl from NJ still look preety even with that quality of a photo.
That's so sad
Please stop victimizing jisoo she ain't getting mistreated or smth its just some die heart want the whole shit for their favorite
lmao..uk what in these 6 years she was treated like a sh*t and no thumbnail and now she is no where seen in shut down too...stop being so dramatic
@@kimjsITgirl you're the one being dramatic here by victimizing your fav just to seek for more attention..she debuted as an actress and have her own solo in born pink album what else y'all Want lol bs
@@seraphime5971 she have solo on born pink??what are you on
@@seraphime5971 its rose who have a solo...seek some hlep
@@kimjsITgirl check it bruh jisoo gonna have her solo song in born pink tf
Her instrument playing video was shot 10km away. Not even a close up shot🥲
True they couldn't even show her face when shes spending a lot of time to learn playing that instruments only to be mistook as jennie or a nobody fck yg
Bruh the new jeans one is an exaggeration it’s just one photo I get people are more defensive over her because she’s a foreigner but they act like they completely excluded her & left her out or something she got her time to shine and I think she looks cute