This Publisher Cheats In Their Game... Ark And Snail Games Ceo Shi Hai Corruption Exposed!

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @HOD
    @HOD  Рік тому +356

    Happy new year you legends! so this is finally clear evidence we have of the corruption in the tribe TEA who we now know consists of members of the publisher of Ark snail games even it's Founder Shi Hai.

    • @felsenstern
      @felsenstern Рік тому +2

      Happy New year ;-)

    • @whydouwanttoknow1945
      @whydouwanttoknow1945 Рік тому +10

      We all knew it.. Some of the things going ignored were more then just incompetence at wildcard!!

    • @PainArk
      @PainArk Рік тому +8

      Rip official servers after this one hope ark 2 flops hard

    • @napalm3039
      @napalm3039 Рік тому +1

      I thought we knew this? From the times of tribe of Tea

    • @My.life.in.Christ
      @My.life.in.Christ Рік тому +3

      I remember when pepperJC exposed this, good times

  • @BAMsPG
    @BAMsPG Рік тому +987

    Absolutely disgusting, thank you HOD for bringing this to light, We need to all take action as a community and show our awareness of this issue. This explains why PVP is filled with cheaters and admin abuse of no care what so ever!

    • @ZerXs7
      @ZerXs7 Рік тому +6

    • @feastofthefoul
      @feastofthefoul Рік тому +5

      preach bam preach

    • @mythicwolfie2774
      @mythicwolfie2774 Рік тому +4

      Bammy start getting other pvp yts too bc we need to break them up

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +74

      Yep hopefully Vin Diesel and other investors hear about this and can actually make some change we can't let this repeat for Ark 2

    • @drasticbubble1223
      @drasticbubble1223 Рік тому +1

      Braaaaw your here lol

  • @Jade-PG
    @Jade-PG Рік тому +299

    While wildcard are not directly involved ultimately it's their publisher so they gotta do something, it's wild if the creator of ark has been blackmailed by his own publisher, great digging through mate

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +42

      yeah I hope they have something they can do because I honestly think that most of the "wildcard" devs we deal with would not be ok with what Shi Hai has done. I can't imagine working for a Chinese company like Snail is easy, it gives me a lot more sympathy for them.

    • @DC-ml6cv
      @DC-ml6cv Рік тому +18

      Nothing will be done as long as snail owns then. Cheating is not looked down upon by Chinese. More of a status symbol.
      Everyone needs to put it down and let it die and hope it's sold to a fair company

    • @limecat7996
      @limecat7996 Рік тому +1

      Isn't there 3 company's involved ? Like wc made ark, the snail made like ark vr n that n some other shitty games but they both work under another company? Maybe I'm remember wrong, was watching another video about them wanting to add mtx but wc said they will never agree but they might not have a choice.

    • @indigoblue2378
      @indigoblue2378 Рік тому +2

      It's their publisher, but typically there's not much that can be done against your own publisher

    • @limecat7996
      @limecat7996 Рік тому

      @@indigoblue2378 yea I just realised I was thinking of grapeshot 😅

  • @viralshark
    @viralshark Рік тому +119

    I always suspected that Snail was the real enemy anyway. The core team of Ark devs love their game so passionately.

    • @thecyanadon
      @thecyanadon Рік тому +38

      Wildcard love the game, Snail loves the money and exploiting.

    • @yaboyj2191
      @yaboyj2191 Рік тому +6

      They may love it but they are still incompetent

    • @thecyanadon
      @thecyanadon Рік тому +14

      @@yaboyj2191 They really are not though.

    • @ErinRSU
      @ErinRSU Рік тому

      @@thecyanadon lol mkay. Hilarious.

    • @thecyanadon
      @thecyanadon Рік тому +5

      @@TravisTheSavage if so nowhere near as bad as snail.

  • @travisbickle2004
    @travisbickle2004 Рік тому +51

    Thanks H.O.D. This has pretty much killed my excitement for Ark 2 knowing all this. I definitely don’t want my money going to Snail games.

  • @SaintNyx
    @SaintNyx Рік тому +21

    I was one of the people who wiped 165 in 2018. Our allies and TEA had both built giant towers for their assault rifle aimbotters and spent 5 hours headshotting each other from outside render range. We found body bags of duped C4 in the volcano base. Our goal was to take the server for ourselves, as we needed an island for boss fights and ascension, and our server was being constantly DDOSed.
    A couple days into building, the entire server was reset back to how it was before we wiped TEA. A few other tribes wiped TEA after us, and the base was always simply reset. That was my first encounter with these guys. They were bad at the game. They had almost zero support from other tribes. We all had secret RMT, but TEA wasn’t just buying from us. They were buying directly from Snail Games.
    A-Team was Wildcard’s favorite up until they inexplicably got wiped. Jat was on the server giving them loot from enemy vaults on stream when he dev wiped P.A.N.D.A. It’s entirely possible that Shi Hai wasn’t completely wrong about their affiliation with Wildcard. It seems that he became angry when Wildcard’s pet started embarrassing TEA, and he forced Wildcard to delete them.
    The corruption in ARK runs deeper than anyone can imagine. Even this video is only telling you a tiny fraction of what we all knew back in the day. Every mega is corrupt to the core, and ultimately run for the purpose of RMT by a few individuals. All megas cheat. I don’t care who your favorite tribes or creators are, they are cheaters. Everyone cheated. Everyone. Wildcard, Snail, and other wealthy or resourceful parties frequently made a mockery of official servers.
    For example, the majority of BLDX was paid in red envelopes by their leader to sit in join sim and farm resources in both ARK and ATLAS. All megas had aimbotters. We all had red buttons for DDOS (ex: server 51 had to be moved from NA to EU during the war because YSS and BLDX wouldn’t stop DDOSing each other for 2 weeks). Every mega had meshed vaults and bases. Every mega duped. Cheating wasn’t part of the game, it was the game. If people could have seen the reality of what was happening, they would have called for every tribe on official to be banned and dev wiped.

    • @andyperez6105
      @andyperez6105 Рік тому +6

      "Cheating wasn't part of the game, cheating was the game", well said. As someone who meshed a lot this rings so true lol

  • @Arc_1a
    @Arc_1a Рік тому +122

    Thank you HOD! I’ve been waiting years for somebody to bring this to light. The corruption on Snail Games servers is so blatant and the cheating is out of hand. I’ve played countless wipes of Arkpoc, conquest, & classic and all ruined by the same exact people. I hope wildcard can split if that’s even possible, snail games is murdering it’s own product for such little gain..

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +10

      Yep it's unreal I never knew it went this deep but it makes sense how the cheaters always come back

    • @partyrob1174
      @partyrob1174 Рік тому +1

      @@TravisTheSavage If you could link some proof that would be awesome

    • @shannonchristie8741
      @shannonchristie8741 Рік тому +2

      @@partyrob1174 he can’t it’s just ramble not saying it’s not true just @Partyrob117 needs to lay off the party

    • @hibsboy9
      @hibsboy9 Рік тому

      well more fool you stupid if you keep going back to play the same servers when you "know" it was full of cheaters

    • @Arc_1a
      @Arc_1a Рік тому

      @@hibsboy9 Because TEA are dogshit players and get smacked even with cheats.

  • @Trizjoe
    @Trizjoe Рік тому +308

    This game has so much potential in the right hands. Crazy how out of control its gotten in game & behind the scenes. Thanks shedding more light on this even though it could put your relationship the DEVs at risk. (Not that they've ever had any worth while relationships with their amazing content creators)

    • @SavingPvtBryan32
      @SavingPvtBryan32 Рік тому

      Lol this game is absolute outdated dogshit.

    • @CrimsonCr0wn
      @CrimsonCr0wn Рік тому +8

      The relationship ended after the Mesh Monkey Video

    • @sulliedgoat620
      @sulliedgoat620 Рік тому +9

      @@CrimsonCr0wn Exactly, the little babies banned em for shedding light on meshing.. They still do fuck all about it lol

    • @Trizjoe
      @Trizjoe Рік тому +2

      @@sulliedgoat620 he was banned over that?

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +14

      Yeah it's risky making this but it needs to be exposed so they can't keep exploring their own game

  • @hillerm
    @hillerm Рік тому +28

    I used to play another Snail game, Age of Wushu, and was shocked at how incompetently it was managed. There was one time when the entire player base had their in-game cash wallets stolen by hackers and Snail did absolutely nothing except blame the player base.

  • @atomlurch1
    @atomlurch1 Рік тому +75

    We got banned and devwiped 2 times while fobbing TEA on classic last year. Both times wildcard unbanned us not even a day later but our progress was gone. The corruption in this game is unmatched 😅 Happy new year legend ✌

    • @c.fyffe0
      @c.fyffe0 Рік тому +5

      Yup now imagine how shitty the game their working on will be

    • @peabrain6872
      @peabrain6872 Рік тому

      @@c.fyffe0 not?

    • @slaayerr1
      @slaayerr1 Рік тому +19

      I always wondered why the Chinese mega tribes weren't just purged from the game many years ago with all their cheating and now I see why. There's one pulling the strings, go figure lol

    • @poppychalupa9390
      @poppychalupa9390 Рік тому +5

      @@c.fyffe0as long as this is brought to light and wild card does something to combat this issue it will be fine. Their investors (Like Vin Diesel) need to see these kinds of videos to prevent ark 2’s downfall

    • @c.fyffe0
      @c.fyffe0 Рік тому +3

      @@poppychalupa9390 these ppl were involved with the very foundation of ark 2 I'm sure it's already fucked

  • @SKUM1
    @SKUM1 Рік тому +38

    thanks for all your time and energy spent bringing things to light here man, much appreciated.

  • @stevewinnett566
    @stevewinnett566 Рік тому +29

    So this is where it all comes from. The amount of videos I've watched from all different content creators, yourself included where they have to compete against cheating tribes is unbelievable now. It's absolutely disgusting behaviour from Snail Games and hopefully something will be done to bring them to justice. How can they deem it acceptable behaviour?, especially as the publisher of the game, it's beyond me. Studio Wildcard have taken so much flak of the years about this subject too, totally unacceptable. You're an absolute legend H.O.D. I'm a big fan of the game and love the content you create on your ARK adventures. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Will be sharing this to spread the word.

  • @ShakyWheel66469
    @ShakyWheel66469 Рік тому +41

    Can't say I'm surprised. I wonder if other gaming news channels will talk about this? It seems like for the most part any drama involving Ark gets ignored whilst other games get talked about because of much more minor things.

    • @lou2751
      @lou2751 Рік тому

      Prob not

    • @CrimsonCr0wn
      @CrimsonCr0wn Рік тому

      Ignored? I Play this Game Since its Launch on the ps4 and their has been so much Drama. It was honestly depressing following all this. You are right If you say the Devs and Publishers ignored the Players. But the Community didnt ignore anything. Watch any mega Tribe Video from 2018 or 2019 and everyone is blaming cheaters. Nowadays those Chinese mega Tribe cheaters getting a taste of their own medicine. Just Like you See int his Video: the PvP Community rather makes an alliance with their biggest enemy to Fight Off the Chinese cheaters, than getting Driven of their Servers. HOD Made a Petition to remove Climbing hooks, Made the Mesh Monkey Video and got banned For No reason. Sure is that the PvE Community is Not heavily involved in this topic, so the Drama didnt reach Out to all the players. Compared to other Games, the Drama often is created in China or has its roots there. Maybe WE will See a lawsuit against Snail Games or Wild Card, Just Like Fortnite/Epic

    • @ShakyWheel66469
      @ShakyWheel66469 Рік тому +3

      @@CrimsonCr0wn I'm not denying any of that. I'm talking about gaming news channels not talking about this games controversies whenever they happen. I am well aware of the history of this game. When I say gaming news channels I don't mean niche Ark youtubers, I mean very popular generic gaming news channels which talk about all things gaming. All these controversies are content which none of them ever seemed to capitalise off.

    • @CrimsonCr0wn
      @CrimsonCr0wn Рік тому +1

      @@ShakyWheel66469 Damn It, I Got that wrong, sorry! Yeah other gamers really dont Care about that. Just Like the lawsuit by Snail Games against the Myth of Empires Devs. A Huge Thing in my eyes, But it Just wasnt covered By anyone besides the Ark UA-camrs

  • @Olde_Spice
    @Olde_Spice Рік тому +27

    This happened in ATLAS as well when it first launched. TEA (Black Butterfly at the time) gained admin access to the servers during the first few seasons of the game and wreaked havoc. We tried to get WC to drop SG at that time, but it never happened. I wish you the best of luck. It created an incredible toxic environment in that game that lasts to this very day.

    • @xemnus766
      @xemnus766 Рік тому +4

      I tried to play that game on a pvp server awhile back and 99/100 of the people I ran into were extremely toxic. There was only a single soul that I met through my whole play through that wasn’t an a hole and actually gave me a chance to play and enjoy the game and help me as a new player, he was still always on guard with us ready for a betrayal. How ever I had to go all the way to a polar island to meet him and get away from the toxicity. I decided to never play it again when I was put in a cage on a lawless island by a max level player with all feats and sealed in a 1x1 effectively making it to where I literally couldn’t play on an official server anymore unless another player let me. It still blows my mind that is a game mechanic. The general toxic behavior of the veteran players of that game have ensured that their game will be doomed to die because they do all they can to push out new players.

    • @johnnyr2646
      @johnnyr2646 Рік тому +5

      @@xemnus766 this is like 99% of Ark official servers. It's extremely toxic even official players tell newbies to avoid official at all costs. It was also the first thing I was told years ago when I first began playing and went on reddit and discord to learn more about the game.

    • @ll-gs6df
      @ll-gs6df Рік тому

      "we tried to get WC to drop SG" lmao as if you're anyone who has any know or pull whatsoever... cmon bro sounds cringe af

    • @Olde_Spice
      @Olde_Spice Рік тому

      @@ll-gs6df believe what you gotta believe "bro"

    • @ll-gs6df
      @ll-gs6df Рік тому +1

      @@Olde_Spice ahh im getting second hand embarrassment from you.. good luck man

  • @Anthomnia
    @Anthomnia Рік тому +7

    Entering 2023 with a big yikes, If this is true i hope this video doesn't paint a target on you

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +3

      Yeah it was a risky one to release, but I believe it and I kind of hope they come for me and expose themselves further with a knee jerk reaction. I honestly just feel bad for Wildcard who seem to be obviously trapped in this and Ark 2 will be a mess if Shi Hai can continue like this unchecked. With ego like his I might get banned again 😆

  • @crispybatman480
    @crispybatman480 Рік тому +8

    It's an open secret mega tribes would have devs in their pockets too. Wildcard devs, not just the publisher, have been corrupt for a long time. Anyone remember when SE came out and a certain mega tribe had swamp fever cures before you could transfer to, or craft them in SE? Eventually it got so bad a gm actually came in and dev wiped the server eventually, but they had a dev in their pocket from the beginning.

  • @R0taderp
    @R0taderp Рік тому +7

    this whole TEA/snail games issue is crazy. some of my mates got banned themselves when they tried to attack TEA on classic few years ago. 😆but it seems like TEA just got wiped on current classic season 6. and for arkpoc, i can definitely confirm that some tribes start with tek engrams without having to do any bosses. but they were practically wiped out by us last season when we played. so theres at least no unfair dev support in favor of the arkpoc cheaters.

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +3

      Yeah I heard they got wiped and no roll-back yet :p and I reckon the Arkpoc guys are lower down maybe in Snail because they get wiped often banned and then come back the next season to do it again haha something suss is there still maybe they don't want to make it as obvious or it's not as important snail staff xd

    • @R0taderp
      @R0taderp Рік тому +2

      @@HOD yea what i also dont understand is how the same group of people on arkpoc can claim the water cube on gen2 every single wipe (even with mesh generators!) without getting dev wiped right away. i mean at some point wildcard should know that arkpoc gen2 is home of cheaters. also funny, i scouted TEAs wiped main base on classic server 50 today before watching ur video! 😂 what a coincidence

    • @Robin-qg4mw
      @Robin-qg4mw Рік тому

      There’s cheating clients that give all tekengrams so that atleast doesn’t have something to do with the admins

    • @R0taderp
      @R0taderp Рік тому

      @@Robin-qg4mw ye ok thats what i initially thought.. but I didnt know the clients well enough to know for sure. arkpoc cheaters still don´t get dev wiped tho, maybe its just lazy devs after all 😆

  • @yakarue
    @yakarue Рік тому +10

    This exact same thing is happening in Atlas (launched 2018 by Grapeshot, also owned by Snail). Happy to share corroborating stories.

  • @barrymacdonald3439
    @barrymacdonald3439 Рік тому +32

    This makes so much sense now how mega tribes became so prominent in ark early on and how meshing duping aimboting became so popular. If the bloody gms are in the tribe and dup everything anyway they will too. I hope after this news something will give wild card the freedom it needs to actually address these issues. Either way thank you H.O.D for enlightening me of this my Discord is going nuts right now lol.

  • @groovediggr8777
    @groovediggr8777 Рік тому +10

    If true, Jeremy should come out publicly on this. The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to stand by and do nothing.

    • @leeroyj7300
      @leeroyj7300 Рік тому

      The problem there he might have a signed a contract/NDA at some point, if he we're to come out, they could more the likely sue him into oblivion while walking away with the rights to ARK

  • @soulsmoke01
    @soulsmoke01 Рік тому +3

    I haven't watched one of your videos in 8 years. I recently got back into Ark and I was super stoked to see you still here!

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +2

      thats crazy haha welcome back!

  • @Wednesday131O
    @Wednesday131O Рік тому +7

    This video answered questions that so many of us have been wondering for years, but it's also made a few other things suspicious and left me concerned for the future. First, I wonder if Genesis, the animated series, and Ark 2 are things the Devs even want to do. If snail owns Ark they decide, right?
    My next worry is whether or not it would even be possible for a corporate split. Snail Games is the parent company of Wildcard and so holds the rights to the Ark series through them. The only possibility I see is maybe a Microsoft buyout, but that's only if snail agrees to the buyout. (I'm nowhere near a legal expert, but I think this is correct). Even then this opens up the question of funding. It's pretty common knowledge snail Games wants to turn Ark into a commercial series [see Ark park, Pix Ark, apparently two others being a Chinese free to play Ark and Ark GO, which was cancelled.] so most likely they are the funders of the animated series, and part of Ark 2. If wildcard does manage to split, that money could just disappear.
    This was all just wild speculation. But the issue of Wildcard being owned by Snail Games, who actively make the game worse should be the top priority. I really hope this gets coverage from media outlets at some point in the future, as that has worked in the past (* cough cough * meshing tutorial).

  • @Two_Names
    @Two_Names Рік тому +12

    Glad you brought up BDO as an example, but I think the circumstances between the companies are very different. With Kakao & Pearl Abyss, BDO was just one property among many for Kakao and not its primary money maker. For Snail, Ark is its ONLY commercial success and money maker. Every single other gaming venture from Snail has failed; Snail will hold onto Wildcard and Ark desperately because of that.
    Regarding cheating, the best case scenario right now is we get some brave souls within Wildcard to speak up and show any receipts confirming the allegations. That won't help with the issue of Snail owning Wildcard though. We'd need exposure of a breach of contract for that.

  • @MMCHAD
    @MMCHAD Рік тому +27

    what a shame. such a great game one of my best games I've ever played. feel bad that this is happening to it.

  • @lightair101
    @lightair101 Рік тому +5

    1:22 I haven’t finished the video yet but I KNEW (strongly assumed) this was happening the whole time. Have been telling people this happens for years and explains a lot of the messed up stuff that goes on the official clusters.
    With Ark 2, wildcard needs to recognize and address this issue and take steps to prevent it from happening again

  • @Wkalsek12
    @Wkalsek12 Рік тому +17

    I am an OG of this game and this is one of the big reasons I just can't play the game I once loved. I've had something along these lines happen to me watched a pocket dev destroy our base for no reason but to assist this cheating mega tribe. The saddest part is this is just a small representation of what's happening in the world at large. Buckle up those who are honorable we have a huge battle on our hands...

    • @sicaaribachelarus8224
      @sicaaribachelarus8224 Рік тому +2

      honor is not enough we must be the light

    • @SongbirdGaming
      @SongbirdGaming Рік тому +1

      Yeah this is why I won't play on official. Great unofficial server communities that don't have to deal with this crap.

  • @reverenddick8562
    @reverenddick8562 Рік тому +11

    Wow... I played years ago. A tribe called TEA wiped EVERYONE except half a dozen rafts, hidden glitched in walls and waterfalls.
    They left eventual, and the 4 of us where all that had survived.
    It was ALOT of fun, but we had zero idea what the hell was happening around us.

  • @lunariatenebris
    @lunariatenebris Рік тому +11

    I had a strong sense of dejavu watching this video, because in Age of Wushu, another game from Snails which I played a decade ago, happened the same story: admins were playing the game in that one privileged "alpha tribe", running down the server and abusing GM power, spawning op gear and unfairly banning rivals. I guess Snails never changed their ways.

    • @doyoueventhink351
      @doyoueventhink351 Рік тому +3

      Chinese people gotta chinese I guess.
      Nostradamus warned us about them....

  • @ArtemisKitty
    @ArtemisKitty Рік тому +1

    FINALLY! After over 6 years and 10k hours, more time then I've spent in ANY other game, I had to give up playing Ark because of the negative effects the constant cheating were having on my mental health. It became unhealthy how stressed I was getting, especially when I witnessed blatant cheating, knew for a fact it was being reported by dozens of people, including me, then watching the top people who spoke out against the cheaters get unfairly banned. I had to come to accept that it was impossible to play a fair game, as it was clearly being run by corrupt admins behind the scenes. I'm so glad that this is finally coming to light, and I truly hope WildCard is able to separate from Snail Games. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @PikaARK
    @PikaARK Рік тому +7

    Finally somebody big talks about this, snailgames has ruined 25 man for so many years now

  • @killerb9502
    @killerb9502 Рік тому +73

    Can we just have a moment of silence to respect you for the big risks you take to reveal the truth

    • @oisinflanagan737
      @oisinflanagan737 Рік тому

      Yea this is China were talking about. I know this isn't something serious but if the government finds out about shi hai's troublemaking he could be arrested due to giving China a bad name

    • @killerb9502
      @killerb9502 Рік тому

      @@oisinflanagan737 hopefully

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Рік тому +1

      What risks would come up?

    • @killerb9502
      @killerb9502 Рік тому +1

      @@TheReZisTLust being sued

  • @Hyperrcapsule
    @Hyperrcapsule Рік тому +7

    Crazy how I've been playing ark for almost 7 years and have somehow never gotten into the pvp scene. After seeing all kinds of videos on official pvp servers over the years I'm glad I never did though. Probably would've quit had I found out hundreds or thousands of hours of progress were wiped by cheaters like this. This further reinforces me wanting to stay on pve servers I definitely plan on trying out pvp in ark 2 assuming the game isnt complete ass.

    • @nakomtsuu8433
      @nakomtsuu8433 Рік тому

      u still can play & stay on offi bro u always save all breedline& bp & some towers even if u got mesh u can play months before getting mesh even years so ye & at least u can pvp

    • @crazzibill
      @crazzibill Рік тому +2

      They are very much involved in pve too. Especially, in almost every Genesis 2 servers. You think because it's pve, they can't hurt you. They can. Recently, they attacked someone who was calling them out, as much as I was. They tracked him with battlemetrics and hacked his account, took over all of his server bases, kicked everyone out and took all his bases and stuff. I have to constantly change my name so that they can't track me. They are so pig headed and proud, they admit they are the ones crashing and duping in our server and when reported, WC does nothing about it.

  • @dizzide
    @dizzide Рік тому +6

    Dosent surprise me, we are fighting this in Atlas with "TEA Tribe" in atlas they are just called "Black Butterfly". And in there, we have plenty of evidence of Snail games being corrupt etc.
    So far the company i play with have been banned 5 times. And they have pretty much tanked the entire atlas population down to the point where it isent worth playing. But you can get more about that if you just reach out to the atlas community.

  • @Sqweekyy
    @Sqweekyy Рік тому +11

    On ya HOD. Gotta expose these cheating rats once and for all..

  • @fugiscute
    @fugiscute Рік тому +3

    Quite surprised this hasn't come out sooner to the mainstream ark players, considering these emails got leaked years ago

  • @tylanater9433
    @tylanater9433 Рік тому +2

    Great video, been waiting for a video like this. Look into beginner servers as well. There's a big Chinese tribe that plays on all 3 pvp beginner servers and cheat badly and obviously while never getting devwiped. I've long suspected them to be related to Tea as well. They literally speed hack to all the drops on the map and still don't get banned.

  • @coa3628
    @coa3628 Рік тому +18

    we need someone like moistcritical to make a video on this

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +14

      Yeah I think he would be astounded by a company cheating in their own game haha

    • @PikaARK
      @PikaARK Рік тому +6

      That's a fucking shout actually

  • @mattduncan7727
    @mattduncan7727 Рік тому +1

    This is beyond tragic dude. Awesome of you to post this though, looks like a deep, dark hole ARK is heading into... Tragic.

  • @FierceMamma
    @FierceMamma Рік тому +5

    Just subscribed because of this video and Snail’s attempts to silence you. 🤗 Keep up the good work.

  • @Dameon_The_Daemon
    @Dameon_The_Daemon Рік тому +6

    I don't even play ark anymore, But this is infuriating.
    But is amazing to see a community take a stand. And the content creators taking on a social duty.
    I mean I wouldn't want to play on official servers anyway, but now I know definitely not to trust them.
    If it didn't take weeks of real time to tame and breed dinos I would....but sorry I work for a living don't have time to check back every 4 hours and make sure my dino is being tamed or still alive at all. Life is too short to waste it "raising and caring" for a bunch of pixels. When it takes that amount of effort to do anything in the real world.

  • @leomccabe1992
    @leomccabe1992 Рік тому +8

    So much respect to you for putting this info forward, as a well known ark creator you risk backlash and the courage you show putting this up is amazing

  • @roy-2126
    @roy-2126 Рік тому +2

    That same tribe was or is called CNTM on the smalls cluster and it explains a lot of what they were capable of doing, I got the opportunity to talk with one of their members after failing to hold an alpha rathole that had 15 lvl100 characters inside of a crystal isles server, a couple hours after the easy raid because none of the guys inside that had any tekgrams a huge tribe called CNTM pulled up with what it seemed like infinite element (we were able to push one of their fobs at one point and discovered a dedi with 10k hard element which is a lot for a tribe that supposedly didn't live on server according to their id's on EOS) they used every cheat imaginable to push our fobs, main fob, and that was the only time where I witnessed actual DDOS in an official cluster server, no structure spamming, exo mek didn't exist at the time, no massive fence foundations structures and no mass ovis butchering. Just DDOS for hours. I still have some screenshots where the said stuff in chat like "welcome to cheat server" or "we are admins give up". Me and my tribe submitted multiple tickets targeting the various offenses to the COC and those tickets were either deleted or ignored.
    After the end of the fight I stayed in server trying to chat with the other tribe cause at that point I just thought it was hilarious how they could ddos a server for so many hours that supposedly had a lot of safeguards cause I knew by experience that it was expensive depending how long you did it for and he said in a very broken english "we get paid to do this, ddos free"

  • @LuckiER89
    @LuckiER89 Рік тому +4

    ~. Well thats one way to end/start the year.
    Respect for bringing these issues to light man and hopefully everything gets settled before Ark 2.
    I knew something was up and it was in internal problem. Lol

  • @Krazy-E
    @Krazy-E Рік тому +1

    I’m glad to see this video is still up, Ty for exposing the corruption of snail games

  • @ChYph3r
    @ChYph3r Рік тому +6

    This isnt the only snail game they cheated on, they do it on Atlas as well.

  • @crazzibill
    @crazzibill Рік тому

    Thank you HOD bringing to light what I had always suspected. I don't play pvp because of things I have heard, but even in PVE, it's become very obvious these Chinese hackers are taking over. I have been having a coldwar with them on my Gen2 server. Then last week, they straight up wiped our heavily played server to day 1. After couple of days we thought it was not going to be rolled back. I actively pillared all the prime spots that the box tribers had previously. That must have got Snail Games attention because, on the third day, our server got rolled back and we had our bases again. It's amazing what they are willing to do to us out of petty fights, even in a PVE server!

  • @SeanDKnight
    @SeanDKnight Рік тому +5

    Awesome video.
    But it infuriates me that we couldn't get this evidence back when the ARKeologist's Podcast was running. All we had were testimonials, allegations, and assumptions based on the scant evidence we came across or players who had inside knowledge but couldn't offer up definitive proof. Sure, we came to the conclusion that something fishy was going on with Snail Games and that Studio Wildcard was either in on it or were impotent because it was the parent company behind it.
    The worse part is, even if we had found this proof years ago, I doubt it would have changed anything. Or stopped Survivors from playing the game and supporting Snail Games.

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +4

      Yep I can't believe we had to wait this long for hard evidence. It sucks to think that they got away with this for so long, but hopefully now all the corruption we have dealt with might warn people off trusting snail at least. I don't think much will happen, but it will be harder for snail to run their corrupt tribe at least. And I think people will second guess buying snail produced games at least I will 😄

    • @SeanDKnight
      @SeanDKnight Рік тому +4

      @@HOD One can hope that this will result in consumers no longer buying Snail Games' products. However, that hope is thin given that I've tried for well over a decade to convince gamers not to support corrupt and anti-consumer developers.
      Question is, will the mainstream game outlets pick this story up? Might actually make that a change in the outcome.

  • @thehappypittie
    @thehappypittie Рік тому +1

    This isnt even remotely surprising but happy to see it covered like this

  • @drugsarebad97
    @drugsarebad97 Рік тому +95

    I predicted it years ago. That devs HAD to be in on the hackers who were raiding massive bases and selling them for profit. I always just assumed the devs knew and took a cut of the profit to look the other way, or even help the cheaters.

    • @champchamp156
      @champchamp156 Рік тому +2

      But how the developers can be this incompetent ? Design the game for monthly payment like in the WOW and you are at your money. Stupid incompetent company which has to be canceled .

    • @somethingwithat5787
      @somethingwithat5787 Рік тому +25

      A couple years ago i had a pretty nice base i had just set up in Scorched Central cave, i was the leader and had like 5-6 other tribemates at the time but i woke up not in the tribe anymore (even though i was the leader) and the base still intact but belonging to another tribe. Not 100% sure but the fact that i was removed from the tribe as the leader has always made me think some kind of admin abuse happened, i just cant think of any other possibilities. This was on Official but i have no clue which server.

    • @yaboyj2191
      @yaboyj2191 Рік тому

      U predicted it years ago but kept it a secret apparently

    • @drugsarebad97
      @drugsarebad97 Рік тому +4

      @@yaboyj2191 na, i told my friends and people i played with all the time that the corruption must run deep . With the amount of money involved it had to

    • @flowers2734
      @flowers2734 Рік тому +4

      That’s why I never played on official servers

  • @KHz999
    @KHz999 Рік тому +5

    it is actually crazy how addicted some ppl are to this game that they cheat to achieve the goals in their own game... very good video thank you for bringing awareness to this

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +1

      Yep and we all knew something was going on but never this deep... hopefully they can't do this now for Ark 2 as easily

  • @4nti0ch
    @4nti0ch Рік тому

    we've known this since the PPG raids back in the day but it's nice to have proof. it still breaks my heart i missed the fights because i had to work.

  • @TheBonsaiRonin
    @TheBonsaiRonin Рік тому +3

    Jesus man... It's even worse than admins that play on their own server! I can't even put into words how stupid this is. Thank you hod!!!

  • @BadPandaRacing
    @BadPandaRacing Рік тому +1

    I gave up 7yrs to Ark ....this is heart breaking but not surprising.........great video

  • @andrewmarinelly5838
    @andrewmarinelly5838 Рік тому +5

    Ark could of had the love and support Rust gets from its community. I played at launch and quickly realized balance wasn't ever going to be a priority and happily quit. I like keeping up with the game but this just explains so much. At times you can feel the love put into this game but mostly there's this weird feeling that permeates everything.
    Anyways Good luck to you all that still play and hopefully I will rejoin those numbers.

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому

      Yep exactly its so sad to see how bad Ark is compared to Rust I'm Regards to cheating

    • @Dempig
      @Dempig Рік тому

      tbf rust is getting worse by the month, pay 2 win skins and all

  • @biolazer
    @biolazer Рік тому

    Are we really surprised? We kind of all knew this and why they game started to lose players after 2019 duping and cheaters on top of aimbots and meshing I loved this game but left and never looked back until you came up in my home page again HoD much love

  • @cmac6136
    @cmac6136 Рік тому +5

    Really people should be giving wildcard some slack. I had no idea they had to deal with this. Sad

    • @codemang87
      @codemang87 Рік тому +2

      Some slack? They've enabled it, hid it, and allowed it to continue all in direct contradiction to their own ToS.

    • @indigoblue2378
      @indigoblue2378 Рік тому

      @@codemang87 What? Did you watch the video at all???

    • @codemang87
      @codemang87 Рік тому +1

      @@indigoblue2378 did you know the video doesn't tell the whole story? Wildcard had their hands in this too.

  • @LegendaryJae213
    @LegendaryJae213 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely they can split from their publisher, especially if there's blackmail. They just need to find a worthwhile publisher

  • @arfur5696
    @arfur5696 Рік тому +9

    Was this also not obvious during the whole TEA saga a few years back?

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +12

      it was but we never had the evidence to back it up and now we do

    • @Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken
      @Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Рік тому +3

      Yeah I was a part of that huge raid on them. Servers were rolled back AT LEAST 6-7 times after we broke through their defenses and started wiping them..
      Everyone part of that raid knew they were cheating hard.

  • @StupidOtters
    @StupidOtters Рік тому +1

    I am in GT7 on Classic Season 6. We fight Tea every season. Before we would get banned and completely devwiped if we held any resistance against Tea. Now with enforcement help, we are able to provide streams and video evidence of our innocence against them.
    The community isn't letting them play. Everyone is rallying together to build fobs on their servers and are being backed by dev support. This exposure is obviously working and is getting the right attention.

    • @JohnConnor_NPC
      @JohnConnor_NPC Рік тому

      Omg this was so bad last season. The server crashing was the worst. They make progress - no crash, we make progress, server crash no save.

  • @Juviisgod
    @Juviisgod Рік тому +3

    Happy new year. This game has its ups and downs.

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +2

      Happy new year it does for sure haha

  • @NoDoubtImPissed
    @NoDoubtImPissed Рік тому +2

    Been playing ark since launch on consle and have gradually grown apart from it. I occasionally get in a play for a weeks but if NFTs are added that will be the last page of my ark story. I new the game was curropt on official when I played but I had no idea how deep it went.

  • @cmac6136
    @cmac6136 Рік тому +5

    Now we know why some cheaters don't get banned I guess

  • @Eraiyna
    @Eraiyna Рік тому +2

    I worry about the future of ARK2, not just because of it featuring Vin Diesel (I have nothing against him it's the whole throwing money at a celebrity instead of helping fund development I worry about), but also this makes me wonder if the reason they won't optimize the game and polish it is because Chinese companies are not exactly known for quality or polish. Why would they allow Wildcard to waste time and money going back trying to fix things that are broken or work poorly.

  • @Speknoz
    @Speknoz Рік тому +4

    Bungie split off after Halo, there is hope for Wildcard. Makes me wonder if snail games had a hand in how Atlas turned out.

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 Рік тому +2

      Atlas from what we know, was supposed to be the oceanic ark DLC. But it was turned into its own games.

    • @sophieadams4155
      @sophieadams4155 Рік тому +1

      After Bungie split you know what happened? They were enslaved and were forced to implement anti consumer business practices which you saw constantly throughout Destiny and Destiny 2. Even once they gained their freedom it was too late. Their company has been changed forever and is unrecognisable to how it used to be. It's just a name now.
      I believe Snail Games had a part to play with how Atlas turned out. Snail Games were pushing for Ark clones of many the popular games. PixArk is one such example. Dark and Light is another. Atlas appeared during the success of Sea of Thieves and it would not surprise me if it was Snail Games idea to make Atlas in the first place.

    • @indigoblue2378
      @indigoblue2378 Рік тому +1

      @@sophieadams4155 Yes, but Wildcard has proven repeatedly that they detest micro-transactions and generally are against anti-consumer practices. So I can hope that Wildcard can get out from under Snail Games and make their games as good as they could have been.

  • @TheStorm357
    @TheStorm357 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for doing the the work on this. Knew Snail was a POS when they stated they were bringing BC and NFT's to Ark, but I didnt suspect that they were this much trash. I wont buy or play any game associated with them again.

  • @cyberrick9223
    @cyberrick9223 Рік тому +4

    We got dev wiped this classic season because we tryed steal carcha tame on teas server and we was a big tribe :)
    We ask in enforcement for cheat proof. Instead proof we got banned from discord

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +1

      Yep sounds about right what a joke this has become

  • @GideonOnDahMic
    @GideonOnDahMic Рік тому +1

    It's crazy how there are no threads about this on the ark discussion page will be spreading awareness myself because these are fair grounds to not buy ark 2 at all with corruption like this

  • @SecxndV69
    @SecxndV69 Рік тому +3

    This would explain why cheaters rarely get banned

  • @XZaguer
    @XZaguer Рік тому +1

    This is not a "don't play on "X" servers" situation, this is enough reason to boycott snail games and demand a publisher split.
    Ark's sequel is on its way and it was rumoured that it would have NFTs, if we combine that with the evidence showcase on this video these are extremely worrying news. If ark 1 is the mess that it is, how can we guarantee that snail games won't make it worse in ark 2? Not to mention that it is very possible that they might just monopolise the NFT market and steal the player's time and money. This is extremely serious and it should be brought to light as soon as possible.

  • @LivindeadGaming
    @LivindeadGaming Рік тому +3

    I forgot all about Tea haha, I remember watching your videos of wiping them like 4 years ago or something. We play on PS on the offline raid cluster and we had a Chinese/Japanese tribe (weird setup, the Japanese all hated China but lived there and made a tribe with the Chinese) but they just abused the ORP mechanics and meshing to build a mega tribe, we fought them for like a year before they eventually got dev wiped and all their accounts banned

    • @KazukiNishino
      @KazukiNishino Рік тому

      same was with a japanese group said they hated chinese but joined them and got fucked over by chinese lol

  • @mozelac
    @mozelac Рік тому +1

    Honestly it makes sense why so many game breaking bug took literal months or years to sort out on pvp. like meshing when Ext released...

  • @morky3673
    @morky3673 Рік тому +1

    Hey H.O.D, sad to see that ark is still in a deteriorating state. You always had the best pvp content when I was playing. The rampant cheating outside of just meshing and duping etc is so crazy.
    Im happy you're doing your best to cover all this, we're all real passionate about this game but I hope all this isnt stressing you too much. Cant be fun uncovering such bs.

  • @Ricks408
    @Ricks408 Рік тому +3

    My question to you HOD is Why, knowing all this since Shockie exposed and showed the tweets on stream along time ago, do you continue to support and showcase ppl like this's products? Happy new year HOD hope 2023's a banger for ya!

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +6

      What tweet did shock expose I like the game and this gives credit to wildcard having no control so if anything gives me sympathy. It sucks but I think there is good people there in a bad situation. And they make good games just poorly run

    • @champchamp156
      @champchamp156 Рік тому

      Do you talk about the Shockist who also use every kind of cheat in this game ? The devs , the content creators , the players everybody a freaking cancer in this community this is the reason why I left . Good game but not worth any money and time anymore .

    • @ososerious9688
      @ososerious9688 Рік тому

      @@champchamp156 I remember in a shockist video someone from his tribe literally is chat says hey shock can you dupe more ele during a fob lmao. People just ignored it as a joke.

    • @champchamp156
      @champchamp156 Рік тому

      @@ososerious9688 There is one more video where Shockist playing together with the weakling cheater "Simba" . That guy was that who steal the megatribe leader accounts and kicked every tribe member. So this guy is the friend of "Shockist " . Btw Shockist is a nobody who is living at her mom basement at age of 30 . :)

    • @BlinkingTwin
      @BlinkingTwin Рік тому

      Because nothing gets better if you don't talk about it.

  • @raymondmatthee8779
    @raymondmatthee8779 Рік тому

    Nice im glad video is back up, justice. I guesse their privacy complaints fell flat. Big W H.O.D

  • @sleepy11382
    @sleepy11382 Рік тому +3

    You the man HOD love your work keep it coming. #DOWNWITHSNAILGAMES

  • @jamesdagmond
    @jamesdagmond Рік тому +2

    The game had such massive potential it's sad to see it where it is now. Official servers unplayable due to cheaters.

  • @ExtremeAttix
    @ExtremeAttix Рік тому

    I played with my best friends when this game first opened up in early access 2015. We thoroughly enjoyed it until some time the year after. We noticed a huge shift in favoring large, mega tribes that could just scorch earth other small tribes.
    Not an intended feature I'm sure, especially if you watch the early on trailers.
    Then came the server transfer features. Chinese mega clans come in, lock up caves (they were the only way at the time to get paste for end game content). They contiued to wipe out clans with this insane advantage of some how magically being armed within minutes of tranfer. Threw up mega structures over night, yet none of the hotspots were mined (there was a time where anklos weren't needed and you could just grab a person whhile they mine).
    It got toxically worse when the desert expansion came out. That's when we all threw in the towel. Even though we didn't own the DLC, people could just transfer over stone golems, wyverns, etc and wipe us all out. I love PvP. PvP is great, I've played a ton of Rust. But when the environment and mechanics favor those with money and influence...... well it's not a game anymore but just a nightmare.
    Still loved Ark and it's 2015-2016 experience, but Snail Games has shown that I'll stay clear of their products.

  • @havingissues5411
    @havingissues5411 Рік тому

    Thx H.O.D. for that Video! Pls make more Content about Cheaters and corrupted gms. I love it!

  • @hahaicamefirsthar
    @hahaicamefirsthar Рік тому +2

    I have fought against Black Butterfly (TEA) on Atlas and they will openly brag in global chat about having the most shares in snail games as Shi Hai is the majority shareholder.

  • @Realdeal0321
    @Realdeal0321 Рік тому +1

    I was kicked from the ark forums for telling them I was going to copy all the reports and hire a lawyer if they didn’t get their shit together.

  • @mrspams3489
    @mrspams3489 Рік тому +1

    Jesus this is crazy stuff. What pure c**ts!!!
    HOD you have always made amazing content and brought so much to this game. Dont let this bullcrap stop. Keep working hard.

  • @Vaeroth
    @Vaeroth Рік тому

    I just saw all of your stuff on twitter about the video getting hit for like 9 mins worth of shit. I remember this happening to another creator when they spoke out about how much of a PoS Jenn was. And since this was not showing up for me in my Sub list, I decided to come check it out, watch and give a thumbs up. Keep it up man. Always enjoy your content.

  • @ThatGuyYouveKnown
    @ThatGuyYouveKnown Рік тому +2

    Bungie also notoriously split from activision. Wildcard hopefully could do the same.

  • @AndrewLomax80
    @AndrewLomax80 Рік тому +1

    Something we all suspected way back

  • @osteopathichomeopathicking6154

    I'm not surprised. I used to play Black Gold Online and sure enough, players who "knew" the developers would macro and memory edit. I recorded a few of them and sent in the video to support, of course nothing ever came of it. The game was also heavily pay 2 win, and they just left it dead in the water with little to no communication.

  • @krirthikdinesh7755
    @krirthikdinesh7755 Рік тому

    Boost this for the algorithm and justice
    Together we can dethrone this false usurper

  • @charri758
    @charri758 Рік тому

    Ark official players have known about TEA for years being DEV ran... Our first run-in with them was in Conquest season 1 and can confirm they're doing it again on classic.

  • @penz6303
    @penz6303 Рік тому

    God everything makes so much more sense now so many questions I've asked myself over the years of playing this game make so much sense now

  • @feralcyborggaming1531
    @feralcyborggaming1531 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if this has something to do with how bad the mobile servers have been lately. I usually get booted offline and told "you have been disconnected from the server", which I know is not on my end. I see a lot, if not all rules being broken and nothing gets done about it. Snail has a reputation for allowing this sort of thing to happen. Survival Heroes is a prime example. Didn't know they own Ark, too. That's disheartening to hear.

  • @shanecampo7542
    @shanecampo7542 Рік тому +1

    What a Shame. 13k hours on console, this game has such good passion. Shame to see it crumble. I still get urges to play too.

  • @thedude-nf1uf
    @thedude-nf1uf Рік тому +1

    Rumor says that they're the ones responsible for the 'God tames' on the legacy cluster. Thanks for bringing light to this man.

    • @dixonherbum7751
      @dixonherbum7751 Рік тому

      Ah yes i remember the OG god gigas

    • @thedude-nf1uf
      @thedude-nf1uf Рік тому +1

      @Dixon Herbum the wyvs and Brontos were the worst imo haha.

  • @the_steamtrain1642
    @the_steamtrain1642 Рік тому +1

    A developer / publisher split would probably be next to impossible, also depends on how much Snail games ownes Wildcard, if they own them it' s basically over, if not it' s going to be a difficult and very rough ride as Snail games wouldn' t just let their cash cow go, especially since they are making a loss on all other titles they own
    Edit: Just looked on Wikipedia, pretty sure Snail games ownes Wildcard, Ark is doomed

  • @Myne1001
    @Myne1001 Рік тому +2

    This combined with Neddy The Noodle's recent-ish video about the state of Snail Games' financial reports really makes me believe ARK 2 is going to be a disaster.

    • @thecyanadon
      @thecyanadon Рік тому +3

      I wish wildcard could break free of them, Ark 2 would be the greatest game if they could.

  • @hulkflattt7854
    @hulkflattt7854 Рік тому +1

    Guys! this is happening in government of countries all over the world it will never END!

  • @liamnissanS2K
    @liamnissanS2K Рік тому

    Damn son. This has been a long time coming.

  • @chickenshadow5174
    @chickenshadow5174 Рік тому +1

    WOW SOUNDS LIKE THE TRIBE TEA HAPPY NEW YEARR!!

    • @HOD
      @HOD  Рік тому +1

      Happy new year!! Yeah we finally have concrete proof man

  • @jeffwhalen1978
    @jeffwhalen1978 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your true journalism, GG bruva! This is unfortunately not a surprise, but still terrible

  • @gustavheinrich5565
    @gustavheinrich5565 Рік тому +1

    Snail Games might very well be corrupt, but Wildcard is still incompetent and can't fix their bugs.
    The only hope we have for Ark 2 is them outsourcing the coding to a different studio entirely, which hopefully knows what they are doing.
    We all know Wildcard doesn't.

  • @readytopay6969
    @readytopay6969 Рік тому +2

    Being the publisher and cheating on his own product? How disgusting, I already hated cheaters but this is something new, someone knows where those guys live?

  • @Nighturz
    @Nighturz Рік тому +1

    Feel so bad for Wildcard... I also really hope they can escape the toxicity of Snail Games. Studio Wildcard loves their game. Ark means the world to them. Yeah, now I'm a little down about ARK 2. But I mostly play solo anyways.