Midjourney VS Leonardo: Full REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2023
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In this video, we look at how Leonardo and Midjourney compare. I review these two ai art generators fair on a number of different aspects.
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enjoyed the video. but please disable your discord alerts when you start to record :)
i was going crazy thinking it was mine
So that’s what all those beeps were!
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One needs to be aware that in Leonardo AI the output that you get is not only dependent on the prompt you use but also on the Models like Diffusion, Deliberate, Creative... You also have the ability to stylize the output with the sub-modeling Leonardo Style, Prompt Magic, and then there is also the various schedulers, of which there is a Leonardo scheduler. To also step up the look of the images you have the Image Prompt function which gives really fine details based on the images that you load into this area; which is also part of Prompt Magic; along with the Prompt and Negative Prompts one chooses. I've created some really impressive output, but it takes time to figure out what Models and related combinations will work best for particular prompt or for the style of art you are looking to generate.
I am struggling to create animal images, it all the times creates badly mutated ones, I use the negative prompt as well but still no use
That sounds complicated but I wanna learn
I love them both and feel they both have their own use cases
Thank you so much for your review. It was very helpful.
excellent review, excellent helpful information, thanks very much!
Leonardo is now only 150 CREDITS PER DAY!
MJ is 25 photos one time only :)
mj is not free😢😢
@@83j3tue, Not anymore
150 Credits are 75 pictures per day… for free! This is awesome
It is more than enough. If you use 1024 by 1024 px its 75 photos per day. Its more than awesome
Midjourney have mentioned in the past about a new UI but I feel like they want to get the model sorted with V6 and v7 first; 2 and 4 months from now respectively.
For Leonardo, I wish their home page showed more new top images like Midjourney's home page does.
Leonardo recently announced paid plans btw.
Was that your Discord I heard in the background or mine? Hehe!
Here's A Summary -
00:00 🖼 Midjourney and Leonardo are compared in terms of user experience, interface, features, and pricing.
01:34 🧩 Leonardo has a visual interface, making it more intuitive and flexible, while Midjourney is accessed through Discord, limiting its UI options.
02:57 🤖 Leonardo offers multiple algorithms and the ability to create custom models, providing more diverse artistic styles and possibilities.
04:07 💸 Leonardo has a free option with 250 daily credits, while Midjourney offers three pricing tiers with unlimited generations in the higher plans.
08:44 🖌 Leonardo requires more specific prompts and negative prompts, while Midjourney is more forgiving and delivers aesthetically pleasing results with varied prompts.
Amazing comparison! But I proved I can get some realistic images with Leonardo compared to the Midjourney level. It's all about how you construct your prompts. Both have their pros and cons overall. I just wished Midjourney had a better UI among other things they lacked on. You can create the best photo in the world, yet struggle with the most simple elements to date. Things will get better and better with A.I nonetheless...heck before summer hits, we'll become blown away.
Good luck with hands, faces and wide aspect ratios. Yes, Stable Diffusion can make good looking portraits. But we are now way beyond of just making simple portraits.
Leonardo has some important updates that really improve their renders since this video was made. I'd like to see him to a new video comparing them now.
Teach me lol
While I am disinterested in creating beautiful/handsome fantasy faces/portraits, I am singularly interested in further developing my own personal art by running my own, preexisting fine art images through an AI, perhaps Leonardo or Midjourney AI. So, would I be able to upload my own fine art images in Leonardo or Midjourney and allow it to give me permutations, variations, recombinants, elaborations, refinements, and/or improvements? This is my exclusive interest. IOW, not text to image but Image to Image.
OK, you addressed my concern about whether or not I could train Leonardo using my own images, but I am still leaving my question to represent perhaps other folks' interest.
I didn't understood the full expectation you have on the results but the answer is Yes. However the changes it will make can be quite radical, since it will try first to extract meaning from you uploads. Since "meaning" is related to "how the machine understand the meaning from your image", the variations from it can be really disappointing, unless you have fine control over "how much I want my image to be altered". I don't really know how to ajust that, however I know it is possible, and it just takes a little bit of practice and studying through experimentations.
hi Samson, I love your videos, you can tell you put a lot of effort into research. just one thing I dont understand, the random Discord notification sounds in between. they're really confusing, wish they wouldn't be there
yeah it creeps me out ! i went to check my discord a few time !
Agree. Quite disturbing.
I appreciate this review
I us mid journey and dislike discord. I use Dall-e 2 a lot because the interface is easier...I used CF spark when it came out but OMG lol multiple legs, eyes and badly cut off images... Once in a while I get a good section lol... I am going to try Leonardo I have nothing to lose. The more I try, the more I learn and the better my prompts become.
I want to use my own photos. I am good with manipulating in photoshop but I want to elevate my own photographs... Thank you.. I appreciate you and what I learned here. I am inpsired
To be honest as an artist I'm not one to care about the UI or the options Leonardo has, A1111 has probably more of them anyway, I'm all about the output and so far Midjourney is in a class of it's own, the model Leonardo Diffusion is on the right track but not quite there yet.
What are you talking about? Automatic1111 is millions of miles beyond Midjourney. Midjourney is massively limited, overpriced, and has FAR fewer options. If you can run automatic1111, there is absolutely no reason to ever TOUCH Midjourney.
Good info! Thanks!!!
*just started experimenting with Leonardo a few days ago...pretty happy with the results so far would still like to see better resolution with the upscalers and download of images as jpg's as i'm accustomed to images being several megs apiece before downloading and the jpg's are a bit pixely when you zoom in on a specific region of the image...i'll admit this might just be an issue within the settings i'm currently using as i'm just learning how this program functions but other than that i do like what i've done and it's just one of many ai programs i'm currently using (those being Deep Ai, NightCafe' Ai and Dall E-2) from which i've generated over 10,000 images (seriously)*
please use punctuation and not run-on sentences; super hard to read your comment!
@@alcyonemusic *i will endeavor to be more observant regarding that in the future*
Leo trash app maybe in future gets better
This was very helpful
No question Midjourney is ahead in terms of finesse and more aesthetically pleasing results. But I've so far been put off by the whole Discord thing, meanwhile I dove into Leonardo which is so easy to use, and gets great results, even if it takes a bit of trial and error. Leonardo also seems to be constantly refining and improving as the SD algorithm develops (I think its got a lot better since the is video dropped) I know MJ is constantly improving too. If Midjourney changed it up to a nice interface like Leonardo's, I'd flip right away, or, as you mentioned, use a combo of both.
I suscried to Midjourney as I wanted to generate some inages for work as an experiment. After 3 day I still havent received the right to use the software and I did not understand why. Customer Service was terrible and DISCORD is way to complicated. I wasted a whole day and finally asked for refund. I never got the chance to try it, apart form a previous experience from the times when it was free for a few experiments. I do not want to have the DISCORD experience ever again. Very frustrating! I am looking forward to try out Leonardo AI.
Thanks 🙏 !
Now that Midjourney got rid of its free version, looks like Leonardo is the way to go for free options.
I would like to know whether Leonardo and Midjourney are just much better than Dall-e or just different again. I made some pictures in Dall-e and they are terrible compared to what you did when using midjourney. Just the abstract neon art picture you did was much better than when providing the same words in Dall-e. Why???
What style settings do I use in Leonardo if I want photorealistic results? I don't want cartoon style or gaming style.
I am curious, how can I use an image of me to generate something, fantastical with my face on it, or someone else face from other photo?
It is a lot more simpler to get that effect in midjourney but it is hardly explained or shown how to do in leonardo.
Hey man can you tell me how these AI thing works? I got Invoke AI Installed on my computer, it works as some kind of a launcher that can load Stable diffusion models, now, the question I have for leonardo is, just what the heck is it? Is it a stable diffusion model? or is it a launcher like InvokeAI? are there any different in terms of output between Invoke and leonardo? or is it just different UI?
I noticed leonardo is categorized as a Sampler, but what does that means? can I download the model leonardo uses as ckpt file and then load it in My InvokeAI? sorry for the questions man but pls help me out if you can
Amazing!!
Leo is now under paywall, 150 free credits (1 token minimum per gen -> 4-5) so Max 150 image, 5 cred per upscale, Only 1 Weird sheduler (leo shed) no steps ... It was good but since the update free tiers are quit bad ... !
150 free credits a day is fair, and the basic paid option is cheap. I will stick with the free mode for a while but will probably end up subscribing to basic Leonardo eventually.
If you were going to do Disney style cartoons videos, witch generator would you chose? And I don’t mean just out of these two on your video, regards
I'd pick Midjourney
I have been testing both and MJ5 sweeps the floor with Leonardo in all aspects. There is not a single image Leonardo could do better than MJ5. If you work hard enough, you CAN get Leonardo to look like MJ5, but not with people and not with wide aspectratios. Leonardo is still just a cut down version of A1111.
Really great video - very useful. Unfortunately the repetitive mix of jump transitions, push zooms, camera angles, overuse of “whoosh” SFX and flashes seem to be overkill - makes me dizzy. Couldn’t make it through the whole video.
I can use leanardo free plan for my youtube shorts for free and without mentioning them?
Leonardo remains elusive to me. Yes, tried all settings, models, etc., and it keeps turning up creepy, deformed, or simplistic characters. Hope it improves.
Has anyone access Leonardi AI recently? How long did it take to get an email to access?
I know my discord is not on but still the notification sound in video makes me alt tab and check 😅😅
Hello, I'm a visual artist ,,any course or tool to make my own comic book?
I've been trying out Leonardo but most of my tries have returned distorted or weird results. Like an butterfly became six butterflies with weird shapes. lol I'm still working on it but still...
there is another section called negative prompts where you have to specifically mention all probable wrong generations
@@SujanSam Yea I found that after I posted here. It got much easier after I started inputting negative prompts. Thanks. :)
Omg I absolutely want leonardo.
mixed with stable diffusion rework it will be my dreamtool.
how do I access it faster !?
how much it is ?
Invitation comes in days and you get 150 free credits a day.
Midjourney has by far the best outputs.
agreed, but UI, constant billing issues and their filter hating 1/3 of the images, everything except for images themselves make it an inferior service.
I personally think BlueWillow is far better than others free AI. BW is 100% free tool. Though BlueWillow is so early stage. I experimented with BW, and I'm really amazed by the results
ive been using blue willow for a few weeks and if im being honest its pretty much garbage.
I like your videos #weugry
They set limit now
Midjourney does have three concurrent jobs ... but it does buffer other jobs so they do get generated if you go past three. kinda obvious but that wasn't mentioned. Not sure why but that was kind of misleading. Unintentionally I am sure.
Bro your trollin with that discord notification sfx lol
Comparing Midjourney with millions of created - and learned - images with Leonardo in it's infancy is pretty much useless comparison. As an alternative, AI technologies like Blue Willow will become more and more popular over time. Blue Willow, in my opinion, will be the one to take down MidJourney
No mid journey is on another level
@Retro Sphynx yes
Blue willow is very good at creating the prompt you described. The only problem is upscaling. It's really bad. Worse than cheap mobile ai art generator app.
@@nononononame8904 😂
@Retro Sphynx Blue willow will be surpassed because MidJ has already the quality there now they're working on filters so people can make NSFW fantasy characters or female models then they're adding in more described image generator blue willow just has image quality MidJ is going to surpass all Ai apps it will be no.1 ai generator it also had Upscale done and are adding higher resolution they're going to add 2000x2000 back and possibly reach to 16k
These tools open up a bundle of copyright issue, because derivatives are consider the original copyright owner. So without permission one opens up to a potential costly piece of AI art. Also many don't have a feature were to recreate the same image. That is to say if you set everything up the same way and regenerate you are more likely not to get he same version of image as the first time.
this problem is solved if you generate SVG art through ai because you can always edit it to your desire. but i guess you can do that with normal art too.
but also why would you want to regenerate the same image if you already have it?
@@JediWebSurf Actually we were wrong SD does have option to generate the same image again and we done. it. mainly because using the original seed and setting, we can make small teaks as well as changing styles form a huge list of style types .
Midjourney makes awesome images but the UI sucks being limited in discord. Finding your image can be annoying.
Leonardo is much more controllable.
I do not mind more limited free trials but ones like mj d-id etc that give you one limited shot will never get money from me. I will reserve that for ones like Leonardo that let you play around for free.
Good Stuffs
I tried using Leonardo on both mobile and pc, couldn't Login I kept getting redirected to logging in over and over, so I just gave up on trying it
From what I can see Leonardo is not only free the pictures are generated in much higher quality mid journey you have to pay for it and the images are in lower quality.
Why do I get only 150 tokens on Leonardo?
I think Midjourney is much better. Leonardo cannot create a simple logo. It gives weird output that are not usable.
It is, but I prefer local A1111
The way this mans be pointing out the flaws in the images is just hilarious, they come out of nowhere because u don't see them until you see them
Midjourney is not even free and when you try to generate images it tells you to try again tomorrow because of server overload...
yes they removed the free plan
recently leonardo got rid of the ability to control steps which makes it harder to get a cohearent image
ONLY for the FREE plan
First 🎉❤
Thanks for being here :)
When you change camera view and you quickly look to the other camera it fells a bit phoney and ridiculous.
Notice he didn't vs Stable Diffusion, because it's head and shoulders above both of them.
Lol my CRYPTO DREAMS model is in this video!
Great Video. Thank You
Leonardo have canvas ai
i use leonarod beacuse its free, but i think midjourny is better
just tried leonardo and for most people, including myself, midjourney is waaaayyyyyy better lol
what program was it when all the Ai art looked nasty, like the world had dream herpes?
Why do i have only 150 tokens a day, thanks for the Video
I'm sticking with Midjourney.
Can you please mute your discord when you film your videos? I really like your channel, but i'm just getting really sick and tired of SO MANY creators having that annoying discord beep in the background - it's not just annoying, but it's really confusing because i keep thinking i'm getting notifications on my discord when i'm not.
Yes!
I've turned it off, completely, it will never play in any video again, ever!
@@aisamsonreal Thanks brother. Keep up the good work.
discord message sounds while you are talking? you are a funny youtuber.....
Credit system is really expensive.
How to make money with those aí art generator?
To me the answer is get both. Then you can run the same prompts on each service and see which one you want to pursue.
Yes. I use both in parallel
i mean, it would take them like 10 minutes to build a web app interface to MJ. that’s on purpose.
Viking is a fail for Leonardo. Horns in the helmet....cheez
Just getting into AI , I will say that Leonardo has major issues with hands in fact I'm yet to see a good hand and I've made hundreds of images. I'm assuming mid journey it's the same way to me it's unusable. I've never seen a perfect or good hand yet.
Seems very usable for everything else except for where there's a hand exposed or grabbing something it looks ridiculous.
I've been using leo for a while now, and I can confirm that hands are a real pain. It's impossible to make perfect hands, even using negative promp, and sometimes you'll get something close to a good result, but if you look closely, there's always something wrong.
Felt like first 8 minute is a waste of time. Once the real comparison begins, the result is: MidJourney (80%) vs. Leonardo (20%).
But definitely Leonardo is on the right track. By the time Leonardo reaches MJ ver-5 level, MJ will go much more advanced.. Let's see.
your right eye is not in balance with right..take carere..less monitor.less brightnes
Midjourney wins.. but leonardo looks more like adobe firefly.. new Ai will catch up eventually.
I also could tell you have some kind of sponsorship with Leonardo, your defending the platform alot.. haha.
Leonardo deserves some attention. It is much more user friendly and has a bunch of options the haters haven't tried. The various upscale options are good at fixing many of the coherence problems that I run into with all AI programs. Often turning rubbish creations into wallpaper worthy images. It is easy to just say Midjourney is better and ignore the advantages of having more freedom with editing creations. At some point, MJ making a bunch of money while not being bothered to create a dedicated UI will allow other platforms to win more customers.
i like Leonardo better its eazy too use Midjourney sucks.
I kinda like Leo better
Leonardo ai >>>>>>
Plus it’s kinda free
It is not
For the love of god please turn off your message notification sounds!
Master (mid journey) Vs amateur trying hard 😀
Turn off your Discord notifications!!! 😂😂😂
Ha, yeah I totally understand, they are now permanently off and will never return
Basically midjourney is superior
But you have the pay
@@willyxt7647 would you work for free?
@@artemus80j.4 Leonard offers free 150 credits, midjourney doesn't.
leonardo ai says it is only for gaming assets. WHAT!!!!! That's not what you are talking about here!!! The icon for the site is the same you show here. There is nothing else on the site. It is only dedicated to game assets. VERY disappointing.
Midjourney beats leonardo with a mighty margin
bro these random discord sounds scare me
Your audio is poor. Need a new mic and more volume.
Midjourney generates better quality images
What are you talking about? It can't even generate Xi Jinping
@@jopansmark face palm
MJ wins easy
Love ur vids but with all due respect, that Discord notification fucked me up so many times
@@Kserijaro same lol
Lost interest around 10:00 when the constant Discord pings kept interrupting your monologue.
Are you kidding me?
disorienting (over)-editing going on here.
Mid journey is joke, impossible for non-geeks to understand -diabolical interface, it doesn't even know what a flip-phone is.
Both are absolute garbage. Local install of Stable Diffusion only, please.
Trash , just adding more detailed prompts produce similar or better results than midjourney