I really wish PSA gave customers an option to add visible subgrades to the back of their slabs just like how BGS does for their slabs. Or at least an opportunity to view subgrades online if you look up the cert number.
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Furthermore, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers logical and legitimate prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
@@justinzhang6780 bottom line, people use and trust PSA, BGS, CSG and SGC. Those are the top graders in the industry that command that high ROI than any other companies out there.
Subgrades require algorithms to weigh and come up with a final grade. BGS started with subs. PSA would need to spend lots of $ to get to adding those. Vintage is even tougher. Computers can't always pick up on counterfeit, power erasing, and trimming. Humans still have to look over a card either way.
As someone who worked in grading for 1 of the big 3, the algorithms and work needed to build out subs would be tough for company who didn't start that way. BVG and BGS started with subs.
You might think about doing a video on how to spot problems (recoloring, trimmed, etc.,) so how we can help ourselves from purchasing raw cards, selling raw cards and saving on time waiting for cards to be returned from grading companies. Just a thought.
Thanks for the very informative video love the complete breakdown of what’s going on in the hobby today, it sucks we won’t be able to look forward to grading with PSA as easily but we’ll see how fast they clear their backlog. I’m personally might just stick with SGC for the time being and only use PSA if I have something really valuable to submit. I think the value of SGC should increase since we are seeing more of their grading in the market. If I can grade with the other companies I’ll also consider that as well depending on who I can find around my way thru third party options.
Post- shutdown at PSA, Ive found CSG to be a great alternative in terms of grading accuracy. Ultra clear holders are a nice touch. Resale value leaves a lot to be desired, but accuracy is definitely on point.
I agree.. and the parent company has a great name & track record in other areas of grading. I think over the next 5 years they will grow massively in popularity!
@@hawaiiactionfigureguy4847 I agree, but I do have to say their labels look terrible! If SGC and CSG changed their labels they would be fun fine. They both grade very strict but fair and have a decent reputation!
Funny that you mentioned the holder, I think he was saying that because that’s what separates them from the “old school grading companies “ I just submitted 10 cards to “Pure Graded X” for their slabs alone. I think all of the grading companies, new and established, have tuff standards the market is just getting more competitive. Of course this is just my opinion. I love your channel by the way.
Love the information you give us Geoff! Was wondering if you could give us a video on your thoughts on Mac Jones and the parabolic rise on his graded cards 🍻
Without any doubt, SGC IS THE MOST CONSISTENT GRADING COMPANY IN THE MARKET! Since day one, they are spot on with there 10's and PSA is all over the place, especially there old labels! Some old psa 10's wouldn't grade out a 9 with SGC .Facts! My investment graded cards will now only be SGC!!
PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. The robots grade the card accurately and precisely. In addition to, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers legitimate and legitimate prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
Stop using "PSA" as a precursor every time you refer to a grade. 44:20 mark - "Don't assume you'll get a PSA 10." Just say "Dont assume you'll get a 10." That repeated usage of PSA when you're not talking specifically about that company just reinforces the bias of this channel. I get they're in business with PSA. But, try to show some neutrality.
As we move into the future and more grading companies become established and get good reputations, when will a 10 be treated the same the no matter the company?
When people quit blindly buying the crappy PSA 10's! I have seen at least 100 videos where the submitter is surprised their card got a 10, when it was off centered or had issues they could see. It happens the other way too, where a card that is very very nice gets a 7 or an 8. It is so obvious that PSA is poor at grading, yet for some reason, people still trust them, no matter what they see!
Hopefully that happens, it seems that everyone using PSA has created a bunch of inconsistent grades. Hope those new grading companies with new tech enter the scene like AGS, they use AI to grade cards which is supposed to be more consistent.
SGC is okay but PSA has been going downhill. PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. There is never a delay with the grading, at most taking a month. Besides, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and they have fair and rational prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
how about european grading companies? will cards graded by them rise up in value over the time? GSG from germany has a pretty tight grading procedure and is well known (... and feared) for it. A GSG 9.0 is so hard to get, a 10 ... is a real 10.
Agreed! they will get all of my business going forward. CSG would be my backup. Can't stand what the scam artists at PSA are doing with POP control and giving out graded based on who subscribers with them! They have lost my business forever. Even BGS I would trust before them!
@@petalparrot12 I've heard a lot of stories and controversies like this revolving around PSA. Just because you're the golden standard you abuse your power... sad. HGA is certainly the future.
HGA is okay but PSA.... PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Besides, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers rational and rational prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
I started with BGS and absolutely love the gold labels. I will be an all time fan of their. However, I feels like the demand for grading will open up new opportunities for other company. Just hope their integrity is as great or greater than BGS & PSA. If not, it could discourage a lot of investors from investing if investors start loosing money based on integrity. We need to continue growing positively and make history. This could be the start of history . Hopefully everyone keeps up the Integrity. So this generation that we’re all apart of could indeed become apart of history.
@@justcharlie818 The fees are definitely going up and are getting out of control. Nice to know there are still affordable options out there to grade cards.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. Their robots are unbiased and graded without human emotion. Furthermore, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers fair and legitimate prices. AGS is one of the best new grading companies and they should be tried out!
There is no way a company can physically grade that number of cards by hand with trying to increase output from there and still have top quality control. Or i wouldnt think anyway...
PSA brings in the "premium price," but I feel like BGS and SCG have more consistent grading. PSA can be frustrating and all over the place. I personally feel that SCG is the harshest grader, so for me a SCG 10 is the closest to "perfect" that card could be. However, I think that BGS has the best looking slabs. I wish more people realize that a BGS 9.5 is the equivalent of PSA 10. For me BGS/SGC for my personal, and PSA if I plan to unload it at some point.
Subgrades require algorithms to weigh and come up with a final grade. BGS started with subs. PSA would need to spend lots of $ to get to adding those. Vintage is even tougher. Computers can't always pick up on counterfeit, power erasing, and trimming. Humans still have to look over a card either way. Just realized i main posted this. Thought it was a response.
We need to be aware these grading services are in it as a business there might be a reason to grade inconsistently for certain cards. We are giving these grading companies a lot of power. I have seen over and over rare cards get easier psa 10 but common cards get psa 9 Grading changes per card volume
i have a 86 fleer MJ ...bought it in early 90"s...i want to get it graded...looks like a true 10, no BS...how would you handle such a card ?..i'm hesitant to put it in any mail system ...
If you truly believe it is in great condition , I would travel to the grading company physical location. First thing you do is contact the grading company then let them know what you got and find out if you are able to setup an appointment to drop the card off physically.
I don’t trust the grading companies themselves! How can we be sure we’re even getting the same card back? I had a card come back with a creased corner and it was PERFECT when sent in! Is there some sort of grading school or college degree for this industry. Shady, shady, SHADY!
I'm new to this. I inherited my father's collection. Anyway, it seems to me that the graders that charge extra money for a card that is worth more money after they grade it is extortion. You send the card in with a price for grading and if you hit the jackpot...the grader sticks his hand out for more money? Does it cost the grader more money to process that card as opposed to any other card? To avoid the feel of corruption or payoffs, grading should be one price for all cards. You both sat there during this whole video praising how honest the graders are, then the card is a winner, they want to tap into the winnings. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong. Like I said I'm new. But that would be extortion in any other industry.
Have you guys head of AGS card grading? Apparently their AI grading is faster and less biased than PSA, which might be pretty good considering how long PSA turnaround is.
Lets be honest, PSA's grading has NOT been consistent lately. So many cards are under-graded or over-graded. SGC and BGS are more consistent with their grading, even tho I know PSA brings in the most value. There are sooo many times where I think a card should be a 9 or 10, it would come back a 6 or 7, and there are times where I think a card is a 7 or 8, and it comes back as a 10 from PSA.
Yeah I agree. PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. The robots grade the card accurately and precisely. Furthermore, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers legitimate and reasonable prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
I have been collecting cards sense 1988 . I believe BGS will become better then PSA for these reasons PSA has become very greedy now over charges . Say you have a card that is valued at $5000 or more now you will have to pay almost $1000 for grading because the value of card . And PSA customer service has been horrible lately .
SGC HAS EXPLODED!They have always been the most consistent from the beginning. I've seen PSA 10's that would rate out at an easy 9 at SGC. I am all in on SGC now for high grade investment.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. As a sports card investor, instead of using other card companies, I use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Moreover, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and they have logical and reasonable prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
Hey do you have a deal with PSA Bulk shipping or just what's on PSA sight? Have 100s need graded but can't afford at once being on disability but not worth using other companies in my opinion.
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. As a sports card investor, I suggest you use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Besides, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and they have rational and logical prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
Curious if anyone has any advice in why wouldn’t Kevin Durant first USA olympics 2012 Prizm #2 card isn’t worth more or in higher demand with such low pop and he’s all time leading Olympic scorer? Any opinions or advice would be greatly appreciated
Hi guys! Why you don’t expand market movers for Canadian especially for hockey card and make like a canadian market movers version that promote the 3 grading company KSA, MNT, ACA. Because the way i see, there will be a balance between all the “good” and “worthy” grading company. Anyway that just my opinion. 😎
If the PSA survey i took a couple weeks ago is an indicator, they are working at a 30 dollar standard for the cheap people, like me!! Not Everyone can get any high end cards. My idea of high end is so different than the big boys.
This is an eye opener to the market gap... meaning just leave PSA ALONE AND OPEN OUR OWN GRADING COMPANY! THEN set up the membership pro grading services for your company at a certain price range... PSA will never be able to do enough... that is because more cards are always gunna be getting graded and they will never catch up and its not worth it to grade PSA
Yeah prices have been high recently... PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I suggest you use AGS. Other card grading companies have human graders which are biased and *unreasonable*. I’ve switched to AGS and I love their robots that grade the cards for you without any bias. Furthermore, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and they have rational and logical prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
When building a set of graded cards, is it preferable to have the grading all from the same company or is it ok to have a mix of PSA, SGC etc. graded cards in the mix?
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. As a sports card investor, instead of using other card companies, I use AGS. The robots grade the card accurately and precisely. In addition to, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and they have fair and fair prices. I have been using them for quite some time now and I hope that you do too!
question. wouldnt the populations of cards drive the values down? i mean they are still graded. but wouldnt the volume dilute the value? laws of economics
Yeah it's not only PSA's prices. Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Furthermore, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and they have rational and rational prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
I’m newer to all this. Can anyone give me a low down WCG. Are they a joke? I got a few cards that are 10a from them. Seems like they almost might be worth more to remove them from the cases and get them regraded by a more respectable company? Thoughts??
Old Bulk pricing will end up being their offering for registry cards. They’re bottom line pricing probably won’t be any better than $50/card by next year.
As of today I would say yes, but it also depends on wether your grading sports cards or non sports cards…PSA is the gold standard in the sports card grading companies, and will get you top dollar, and more often higher sales prices vs the other companies…PSA is expensive, but you get what you pay for, and if your cards are of solid value according to your research, and in the best condition as far as you can tell, then you should be willing to pay the extra money for a hopeful PSA 10…The hardcore investors know that a PSG 9 is equivalent to another grading companies 9.5 or 10, so a PSG 10 and 9 will certainly carry its weight in value verse all the other companies…PSA #1, Beckett, or BGS #2, SGC #3 are my rankings in the grading companies from my experience and research…I have 30 years of experience in card collecting, but not nearly as much experience in the grading game, so this is just my own personal opinion, nothing more…My advice, your best cards in the best condition, spend the money on PSA…Weigh in on the current market trends for that card/player, but don’t necessarily let that be the deciding factor, as one thing is for sure with this market is that current players can always increase or decrease in value dramatically from one season to the next…cards that may have decent value and in great condition, maybe you believe they will increase in value in the future, or you decide to grade during a down year for the player, maybe consider BGS or SGC etc…And if you have a card that might be off center or a mild ding in the corner I would go with BGS or SGC, as well as the thicker memorabilia cards like they suggest in this video…hope this helps!
Been in this 40 years, TAG will be big, we've all seen PSA 10's that should not be, seen 8's that should be higher, it's the problem with human grading, and , also with some suggesting big cards not getting 10's to protect the few who own it, with AI grading it doesn't care how many 10's already exist
My most recent submission took about 13 days to get back to me on the $150 express service. They received 11/03 and they got delivered 11/16. Has anyone else experienced fast turnarounds like this?
PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you with a quick return speed. Furthermore, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and AGS offers fair and logical prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
24:00 - I just cannot get over how flimsy / non-dense the SGC slabs feel in hand. whenever I buy an SGC card, I don’t value it as much as a comparable PSA slabbed card. 😔
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. Unlike human grading companies like CSG and PSA, AGS uses a robot that grades your robot without bias. Besides, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers reasonable and rational prices. AGS is one of the best new grading companies and they should be tried out!
I recently submitted cards to PSA and after about 1 month I received a random call form someone saying they just received my cards in the mail. When looking at the PSA website it shows it still in a grading process. I ask the random individual to send me a picture of the cards and they where indeed my cards with all my info on it. I called PSA and tell me they investigating it but really no responses. Has anyone felt with this before?
My only experience them “losing” my card for 2 years! What happened with your cards? Did the random person end up sending them back to you?!? If so you really really lucked out with an honest individual. Much respect to them for even calling you
It is true tho lol, I will not buy anything other than PSA or BGS. I don’t want sgc or any of that other crap. I Just don’t like the look of the Slabs tbh and that’s it plain and simple
Saying to stay away from HGA since other companies have a known committment for quality shows that these people are really biased on their grading companies. Like come on, PSA gives 10 like candy and they also flop on the naming of their slabs even tho they have years and years of experience ahead of all the others. Not to mention their very poor customer service. The slabs of SGC and CGC, no offense, looks bad. If your looking for quality and good looking slabs with legit grades go for BGS and HGA. More so, promoting startup companies will improve the quality of grading and turn around time of the established companies due to increased competition. So dont turn down HGA right since they are just starting.
Yeah, some of these companies are not organized well. PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. As a sports card investor, I suggest you use AGS. AGS uses robots to grade the cards very quickly. Also, AGS has AI that grades the cards without bias and they have legitimate and rational prices. I really suggest you try them out as they are the new wave of the future!
They damaged a $500 card of mine and gave it the sub grade it should've received... I wouldn't trust them at all. My 1997-97 Metal Universe MJ had a pristine corner, now it is completely bent and fucked up.
the only problemo with the AI grading is it will grade unfairly based on other things like for example this guy didn't pay his taxes so they will grade down
love the show but man i felt like you overtalked the guest hardcore here Geoff. i would love to get to hear his perspective a bit more rather than what felt like a drawn out intro, great info from both of ya tho
PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I suggest you use AGS. There is never a delay with the grading, at most taking a month. Furthermore, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and AGS offers logical and reasonable prices. I have been using them for quite some time now and I hope that you do too!
I'm new to to collecting, and to graded slab and much more value. Plus you don't have to worry about the bootlegs and knock offs. And there is many!
Joe’s group is awesome. Great communication and really good results.
I really wish PSA gave customers an option to add visible subgrades to the back of their slabs just like how BGS does for their slabs. Or at least an opportunity to view subgrades online if you look up the cert number.
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Furthermore, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers logical and legitimate prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
@@justinzhang6780 bottom line, people use and trust PSA, BGS, CSG and SGC. Those are the top graders in the industry that command that high ROI than any other companies out there.
Subgrades require algorithms to weigh and come up with a final grade. BGS started with subs. PSA would need to spend lots of $ to get to adding those. Vintage is even tougher. Computers can't always pick up on counterfeit, power erasing, and trimming. Humans still have to look over a card either way.
As someone who worked in grading for 1 of the big 3, the algorithms and work needed to build out subs would be tough for company who didn't start that way. BVG and BGS started with subs.
You might think about doing a video on how to spot problems (recoloring, trimmed, etc.,) so how we can help ourselves from purchasing raw cards, selling raw cards and saving on time waiting for cards to be returned from grading companies. Just a thought.
As a new investor in this field I really appreciate your input and attention to detail. This video is very helpful and informative.
Let me get this straight...you will pregrade bulk submissions.....for free ! If so...I'm new to grading...and I'm all in with sending my cards to you.
Thanks for the very informative video love the complete breakdown of what’s going on in the hobby today, it sucks we won’t be able to look forward to grading with PSA as easily but we’ll see how fast they clear their backlog. I’m personally might just stick with SGC for the time being and only use PSA if I have something really valuable to submit. I think the value of SGC should increase since we are seeing more of their grading in the market. If I can grade with the other companies I’ll also consider that as well depending on who I can find around my way thru third party options.
I like SGC but it's extremely harder to get a 10 than PSA
Post- shutdown at PSA, Ive found CSG to be a great alternative in terms of grading accuracy. Ultra clear holders are a nice touch. Resale value leaves a lot to be desired, but accuracy is definitely on point.
I agree.. and the parent company has a great name & track record in other areas of grading. I think over the next 5 years they will grow massively in popularity!
CSG does grade fair. I like them. Unfortunately the hobby likes labels than fair grades.
@@hawaiiactionfigureguy4847 I agree, but I do have to say their labels look terrible! If SGC and CSG changed their labels they would be fun fine. They both grade very strict but fair and have a decent reputation!
That’s why I do all my grading now with SGC. Same sort of look more or less but a better resale than CSG.
Should try Collector's Grade only $5 group subs and pretty sharp label's
Perfect video on the current grading market.
Right. This video is very insightful.
Funny that you mentioned the holder, I think he was saying that because that’s what separates them from the “old school grading companies “ I just submitted 10 cards to “Pure Graded X” for their slabs alone. I think all of the grading companies, new and established, have tuff standards the market is just getting more competitive. Of course this is just my opinion. I love your channel by the way.
older people are down on HGA - Younger people are high on them - seems like a good investment
I personally love HGA
HGA >>>
I buy HGA strictly to crack, you can get major deals!
SGC All the way!
Love it when Joe is on. Guy is stud
Very cool background/wall art! 😍😱
Love the information you give us Geoff! Was wondering if you could give us a video on your thoughts on Mac Jones and the parabolic rise on his graded cards 🍻
SGC is still so slept on. Sad to see.
They are tougher on centering than PSA imo. Sent hundreds to both and that’s what I noticed.
Wonder how a card grading app would work?
Without any doubt, SGC IS THE MOST CONSISTENT GRADING COMPANY IN THE MARKET! Since day one, they are spot on with there 10's and PSA is all over the place, especially there old labels! Some old psa 10's wouldn't grade out a 9 with SGC .Facts! My investment graded cards will now only be SGC!!
PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. The robots grade the card accurately and precisely. In addition to, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers legitimate and legitimate prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
Thanks so much for the video. I’m sending in a few cards now!
Stop using "PSA" as a precursor every time you refer to a grade. 44:20 mark - "Don't assume you'll get a PSA 10." Just say "Dont assume you'll get a 10."
That repeated usage of PSA when you're not talking specifically about that company just reinforces the bias of this channel. I get they're in business with PSA. But, try to show some neutrality.
SGC!!! SUPER STRICT....VERY CONSISTENT....BOOMING LIKE NEVER BEFORE$$$!!
As we move into the future and more grading companies become established and get good reputations, when will a 10 be treated the same the no matter the company?
When people quit blindly buying the crappy PSA 10's! I have seen at least 100 videos where the submitter is surprised their card got a 10, when it was off centered or had issues they could see. It happens the other way too, where a card that is very very nice gets a 7 or an 8. It is so obvious that PSA is poor at grading, yet for some reason, people still trust them, no matter what they see!
Hopefully that happens, it seems that everyone using PSA has created a bunch of inconsistent grades. Hope those new grading companies with new tech enter the scene like AGS, they use AI to grade cards which is supposed to be more consistent.
6:30 this “CONVERSHITSON’’ 😂
Joe should be a baseball radio announcer. Joe has the pipes.
He has the knowledge in this field as well.
SGC my favorite
SGC is okay but PSA has been going downhill. PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. There is never a delay with the grading, at most taking a month. Besides, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and they have fair and rational prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
@@justinzhang6780 I like the advice but prices are probably no where near SGC or PSA
SGC looks incredible with marvel art and comic cards
I like it when grading company is strict in grading cards. I’ve seen PSA 10 that should be Atleast a 9 or an 8.
how about european grading companies? will cards graded by them rise up in value over the time? GSG from germany has a pretty tight grading procedure and is well known (... and feared) for it. A GSG 9.0 is so hard to get, a 10 ... is a real 10.
Great Video Joe is the best!!!!
I like HGA don't care what any one says.
HGA is awesome.
Agreed! they will get all of my business going forward. CSG would be my backup. Can't stand what the scam artists at PSA are doing with POP control and giving out graded based on who subscribers with them! They have lost my business forever. Even BGS I would trust before them!
@@petalparrot12 I've heard a lot of stories and controversies like this revolving around PSA. Just because you're the golden standard you abuse your power... sad. HGA is certainly the future.
HGA is okay but PSA.... PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Besides, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers rational and rational prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
I started with BGS and absolutely love the gold labels. I will be an all time fan of their. However, I feels like the demand for grading will open up new opportunities for other company. Just hope their integrity is as great or greater than BGS & PSA. If not, it could discourage a lot of investors from investing if investors start loosing money based on integrity. We need to continue growing positively and make history. This could be the start of history . Hopefully everyone keeps up the Integrity. So this generation that we’re all apart of could indeed become apart of history.
*losing
HGS BY FAR THE BEST SLABS AND WAIT TIME!!!
@@CraigBrosRacing I like the matching color labels. Definitely, the best new concept for graded cards labels.
Y'all waste your money paying those high azz fee's wtf? I use CG Collectors Grade and pay $5 per card! Solid slabs and sharp label
@@justcharlie818 The fees are definitely going up and are getting out of control. Nice to know there are still affordable options out there to grade cards.
I am an old guy. Collector over 60 yrs . Don't have much time left . What is your suggestion to have old cards graded the way things are now ?
What do you do when ya get a graded card from psa that has 2 cards under the same serial number
can someone drop a link to the magnify glass that Joe uses to examine his cards! Thanks!
They sell them on amazon
Good show is GMA a good company in grading ? If you did a top 10 list where would they end up at?
Just another 4.67249 Million years I'll have my cards back from PSA so I got that going for me!!!
Thank you so much I’ve been trying to figure out where I should grading my cards
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. Their robots are unbiased and graded without human emotion. Furthermore, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers fair and legitimate prices. AGS is one of the best new grading companies and they should be tried out!
Very Informative
There is no way a company can physically grade that number of cards by hand with trying to increase output from there and still have top quality control. Or i wouldnt think anyway...
PSA brings in the "premium price," but I feel like BGS and SCG have more consistent grading. PSA can be frustrating and all over the place. I personally feel that SCG is the harshest grader, so for me a SCG 10 is the closest to "perfect" that card could be. However, I think that BGS has the best looking slabs. I wish more people realize that a BGS 9.5 is the equivalent of PSA 10. For me BGS/SGC for my personal, and PSA if I plan to unload it at some point.
Great video helpful information.. 👍👍🇨🇮
Can you talk about some other grading companies besides PSA and Beckett. Like AGS, GMG or FGC?
Subgrades require algorithms to weigh and come up with a final grade. BGS started with subs. PSA would need to spend lots of $ to get to adding those. Vintage is even tougher. Computers can't always pick up on counterfeit, power erasing, and trimming. Humans still have to look over a card either way. Just realized i main posted this. Thought it was a response.
HGA has a great marketing strategy of making flashy labels
We need to be aware these grading services are in it as a business there might be a reason to grade inconsistently for certain cards. We are giving these grading companies a lot of power. I have seen over and over rare cards get easier psa 10 but common cards get psa 9
Grading changes per card volume
i have a 86 fleer MJ ...bought it in early 90"s...i want to get it graded...looks like a true 10, no BS...how would you handle such a card ?..i'm hesitant to put it in any mail system ...
If you truly believe it is in great condition , I would travel to the grading company physical location.
First thing you do is contact the grading company then let them know what you got and find out if you are able to setup an appointment to drop the card off physically.
Send it to me I’ll make sure it gets where it needs to go 😂
Sign up for the walk through grading service in Newport Beach it’s 600-1000$ for the service but same day grading and no sending it in the mail
I feel the same way. I have 12 Kobe rookies and I’m horrified of mailing them or letting them out of my sight.
I don’t trust the grading companies themselves! How can we be sure we’re even getting the same card back? I had a card come back with a creased corner and it was PERFECT when sent in! Is there some sort of grading school or college degree for this industry. Shady, shady, SHADY!
I'm new to this. I inherited my father's collection. Anyway, it seems to me that the graders that charge extra money for a card that is worth more money after they grade it is extortion. You send the card in with a price for grading and if you hit the jackpot...the grader sticks his hand out for more money? Does it cost the grader more money to process that card as opposed to any other card? To avoid the feel of corruption or payoffs, grading should be one price for all cards. You both sat there during this whole video praising how honest the graders are, then the card is a winner, they want to tap into the winnings. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong. Like I said I'm new. But that would be extortion in any other industry.
Have you guys head of AGS card grading? Apparently their AI grading is faster and less biased than PSA, which might be pretty good considering how long PSA turnaround is.
Didn’t they fall off ? Their site is a dead end .
Lets be honest, PSA's grading has NOT been consistent lately. So many cards are under-graded or over-graded. SGC and BGS are more consistent with their grading, even tho I know PSA brings in the most value. There are sooo many times where I think a card should be a 9 or 10, it would come back a 6 or 7, and there are times where I think a card is a 7 or 8, and it comes back as a 10 from PSA.
Yea PSA is too inconsistent. I like SGC holders anyway
How do you guys feel about AI graded cards? Apparently they're supposed to cut down on inconsistencies.
Yeah I agree. PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. The robots grade the card accurately and precisely. Furthermore, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers legitimate and reasonable prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
How do you evaluate 1980’s and older cardboard cards edges? Magnification? Also do you remove any loose cardboard from around the edges.
I like SGC
I have been collecting cards sense 1988 . I believe BGS will become better then PSA for these reasons PSA has become very greedy now over charges . Say you have a card that is valued at $5000 or more now you will have to pay almost $1000 for grading because the value of card . And PSA customer service has been horrible lately .
SGC HAS EXPLODED!They have always been the most consistent from the beginning. I've seen PSA 10's that would rate out at an easy 9 at SGC. I am all in on SGC now for high grade investment.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. As a sports card investor, instead of using other card companies, I use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Moreover, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and they have logical and reasonable prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
Hey do you have a deal with PSA Bulk shipping or just what's on PSA sight? Have 100s need graded but can't afford at once being on disability but not worth using other companies in my opinion.
I primarily focus on vintage cards. What would be the best grading option for these cards?
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. As a sports card investor, I suggest you use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Besides, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and they have rational and logical prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
Curious if anyone has any advice in why wouldn’t Kevin Durant first USA olympics 2012 Prizm #2 card isn’t worth more or in higher demand with such low pop and he’s all time leading Olympic scorer? Any opinions or advice would be greatly appreciated
I have that my card in the back in a psa10
Hi guys! Why you don’t expand market movers for Canadian especially for hockey card and make like a canadian market movers version that promote the 3 grading company KSA, MNT, ACA. Because the way i see, there will be a balance between all the “good” and “worthy” grading company. Anyway that just my opinion. 😎
What makes a brand of sport cards more expensive than other brands?
If the PSA survey i took a couple weeks ago is an indicator, they are working at a 30 dollar standard for the cheap people, like me!! Not Everyone can get any high end cards. My idea of high end is so different than the big boys.
This is an eye opener to the market gap... meaning just leave PSA ALONE AND OPEN OUR OWN GRADING COMPANY! THEN set up the membership pro grading services for your company at a certain price range... PSA will never be able to do enough... that is because more cards are always gunna be getting graded and they will never catch up and its not worth it to grade PSA
Would like to hear your opinion on the grading authority. I like there label and quality in slab. Also can’t beat the $20 per card right now.
Yeah prices have been high recently... PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I suggest you use AGS. Other card grading companies have human graders which are biased and *unreasonable*. I’ve switched to AGS and I love their robots that grade the cards for you without any bias. Furthermore, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and they have rational and logical prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
Would it be fair to say if I receive a 10 from sgc that I would more than likely receive a 10 from psa?
Before the PSA shutdown I was at around 70-80% 10s, with SGC I'm not even at 50% 10s. So I think so.
100%!! SGC IS THE STRICTEST, always has been.
Get panini to do some of the error checking.
Talk about counterfeit BGS slabs
Can you rewiew more baseball cards
I do a ton of baseball card reviews. Virtually every big new set gets an extensive review. Check it out!
When building a set of graded cards, is it preferable to have the grading all from the same company or is it ok to have a mix of PSA, SGC etc. graded cards in the mix?
I use SGC for Tobacco, PSA for all others.
PSA should limit submissions. Like they should limit to 10 cards for 10 dollar submissions per account per month or something around that idea.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. As a sports card investor, instead of using other card companies, I use AGS. The robots grade the card accurately and precisely. In addition to, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and they have fair and fair prices. I have been using them for quite some time now and I hope that you do too!
question. wouldnt the populations of cards drive the values down? i mean they are still graded. but wouldnt the volume dilute the value? laws of economics
What happened to the forecast with Amber?
A must video for card collectors…… tree of knowledge….. good stuff boys!!!!!
Its somewhat biased tbh
The end of next year for PSA to charge lower prices for cards? By that time Thanos will come 😂😂😂😂
Hahahahhahahahahaha
Yeah it's not only PSA's prices. Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Furthermore, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and they have rational and rational prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
I’m newer to all this. Can anyone give me a low down WCG. Are they a joke? I got a few cards that are 10a from them. Seems like they almost might be worth more to remove them from the cases and get them regraded by a more respectable company? Thoughts??
Old Bulk pricing will end up being their offering for registry cards. They’re bottom line pricing probably won’t be any better than $50/card by next year.
I will buy a psa slab. But grading revenue will go to BGS and SGC for my high or low grade subs. PSA is over-rated IMO.
Ha, they just mentioned that they don't care for the CSG labels and they should be changed.
Do the credibility of each grading companies affect the price of the cards?
As of today I would say yes, but it also depends on wether your grading sports cards or non sports cards…PSA is the gold standard in the sports card grading companies, and will get you top dollar, and more often higher sales prices vs the other companies…PSA is expensive, but you get what you pay for, and if your cards are of solid value according to your research, and in the best condition as far as you can tell, then you should be willing to pay the extra money for a hopeful PSA 10…The hardcore investors know that a PSG 9 is equivalent to another grading companies 9.5 or 10, so a PSG 10 and 9 will certainly carry its weight in value verse all the other companies…PSA #1, Beckett, or BGS #2, SGC #3 are my rankings in the grading companies from my experience and research…I have 30 years of experience in card collecting, but not nearly as much experience in the grading game, so this is just my own personal opinion, nothing more…My advice, your best cards in the best condition, spend the money on PSA…Weigh in on the current market trends for that card/player, but don’t necessarily let that be the deciding factor, as one thing is for sure with this market is that current players can always increase or decrease in value dramatically from one season to the next…cards that may have decent value and in great condition, maybe you believe they will increase in value in the future, or you decide to grade during a down year for the player, maybe consider BGS or SGC etc…And if you have a card that might be off center or a mild ding in the corner I would go with BGS or SGC, as well as the thicker memorabilia cards like they suggest in this video…hope this helps!
I don’t get the whole PSA is the leader thing, when a BGS 10 sells for 3X that of a PSA 10 🧐
Comparing 10s to 9.5s is wild to me
@@steliosconstantinides8117 I know that but 10 will always be better than 9.5
BGS 10 is a Pristine would be equivalent to a PSA 11 if they had a Pristine grade.
Been in this 40 years, TAG will be big, we've all seen PSA 10's that should not be, seen 8's that should be higher, it's the problem with human grading, and , also with some suggesting big cards not getting 10's to protect the few who own it, with AI grading it doesn't care how many 10's already exist
My most recent submission took about 13 days to get back to me on the $150 express service. They received 11/03 and they got delivered 11/16. Has anyone else experienced fast turnarounds like this?
PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you with a quick return speed. Furthermore, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and AGS offers fair and logical prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
24:00 - I just cannot get over how flimsy / non-dense the SGC slabs feel in hand. whenever I buy an SGC card, I don’t value it as much as a comparable PSA slabbed card. 😔
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. Unlike human grading companies like CSG and PSA, AGS uses a robot that grades your robot without bias. Besides, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers reasonable and rational prices. AGS is one of the best new grading companies and they should be tried out!
going into the hole 150$ just to find out if your card is worth anything. what a racket
What I don't understand. Buy the card not the slab. PSA cards do hold a much higher premium. I love Beckett ❤ for their sub grades.
FYI Geoff not all use 3 letters Collector's Grade (CG) ONLY 2
I recently submitted cards to PSA and after about 1 month I received a random call form someone saying they just received my cards in the mail. When looking at the PSA website it shows it still in a grading process. I ask the random individual to send me a picture of the cards and they where indeed my cards with all my info on it. I called PSA and tell me they investigating it but really no responses. Has anyone felt with this before?
My only experience them “losing” my card for 2 years! What happened with your cards? Did the random person end up sending them back to you?!? If so you really really lucked out with an honest individual. Much respect to them for even calling you
It is true tho lol, I will not buy anything other than PSA or BGS. I don’t want sgc or any of that other crap. I Just don’t like the look of the Slabs tbh and that’s it plain and simple
Much safer that way in the long run those other companies could be gone and nobody will want those slabs
31:50 Look out for CSG once their label redesign goes forward.
Saying to stay away from HGA since other companies have a known committment for quality shows that these people are really biased on their grading companies. Like come on, PSA gives 10 like candy and they also flop on the naming of their slabs even tho they have years and years of experience ahead of all the others. Not to mention their very poor customer service. The slabs of SGC and CGC, no offense, looks bad. If your looking for quality and good looking slabs with legit grades go for BGS and HGA.
More so, promoting startup companies will improve the quality of grading and turn around time of the established companies due to increased competition. So dont turn down HGA right since they are just starting.
HGA is more focused on the quality of their design and holders, than their quality of grading
Yeah, some of these companies are not organized well. PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. As a sports card investor, I suggest you use AGS. AGS uses robots to grade the cards very quickly. Also, AGS has AI that grades the cards without bias and they have legitimate and rational prices. I really suggest you try them out as they are the new wave of the future!
Whats your thoughts on hga?!
They damaged a $500 card of mine and gave it the sub grade it should've received... I wouldn't trust them at all. My 1997-97 Metal Universe MJ had a pristine corner, now it is completely bent and fucked up.
@@Kenny-dx7ws they do anything to make it right?! That's ridiculous. I have an order there now thats already been late two months now.
Rookies
@@jacobkuhn4017 Nah I didnt even bother.. Pretty sure they fucked up my Booker RPA as well.
Gma does not give out a 10 like most say I sent in 60 cards and only 2 of them came back a 10 then averaged a 6.5 to 9 across board
CSG is working on redesigning the label.
What makes PSA more credible than other grading companies?
WHY you don't talk about Gma top 5 company?
PSA Slabs are not that appealing either.. and is almost same look as PSA’s.
SGC, and HGA Slabs look great
Does SGC authenticate autographed sports cards and magazines?
the only problemo with the AI grading is it will grade unfairly based on other things like for example this guy didn't pay his taxes so they will grade down
Anyone have success opening up graded cards and sending them back and get a better grade?
Can we get ufc on channel.
love the show but man i felt like you overtalked the guest hardcore here Geoff. i would love to get to hear his perspective a bit more rather than what felt like a drawn out intro, great info from both of ya tho
🤣 🤣 PSA IS A JOKE AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GEM MT CARD PERIOD ITS A MONEY MAKING TERM! DONT BE A SHEEP
PSA has been way too inconsistent with their grading. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I suggest you use AGS. There is never a delay with the grading, at most taking a month. Furthermore, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and AGS offers logical and reasonable prices. I have been using them for quite some time now and I hope that you do too!
Soooooo anyone else catch the fact that someone farted at 4:27 in this video?????