PROBLEM: I had issues with clumping even after following these instructions as well as other similar instructions from other manufacturers. Turns out the city water feeding my washing machine has a lot of limestone mineral deposits. The hard water left microscopic minerals mixed with the down which prevented it lofting properly. FIX: I installed a 5 micron inline water filter made for washing machines ($50 off Amazon). I also dissolved 1tsp of borax/1tbsp baking soda in 1 cup of warm water, pouring the mixture into the bleach holding tray of my front loader washing machine. This mixture supposedly softens hard water by preventing minerals from clumping together so they tend to leave during the drain cycle instead of hanging around in the goose down. SUMMARY: Using the 5 micron filter along with the baking soda/borax mixture worked beautifully! My "Enlightened Equipment" top quilt and Arcteryx jacket came out of the dryer fully lofted with no dead spots or clumping. So YES, the water quality makes a big difference when washing.
Took my time, got down wash and DWR, and followed this step by step. My Cerium jacket is loftier than ever. Feels brand new and I took it over 2,000 miles on the AT. Stoked!
Thanks for this! Found the instructions to zip up the jacket and putting in the net for top-down washers helpful, as well as the heat setting for drying. Just washed my old Patagonia down jacket and put 5 tennis balls in the low heat dry setting for 45 mins - came out awesome. Here's to another 7 years with this jacket!
Just got myself a Nice Landends Dawn long Winter Coat with hoodie and boy am I happy I got it. I had it Dry Cleaned but now I saw this Video I will have to find that DWR and give it a go next cleaning cycle. Great Video thanks so much !!!
How do I wash my Arc'teryx Veilance Node Jacket that has Gore-tex outer layer and down inside? Secondly, I saw the video by Arc'teryx on how to reapply DWR to Gore-tex layer. My next question is, will it damage the down inside the Node Jacket during the DWR heat activation process? Thank you
I washed a down cerium lt, with my atom 2 nights ago. i followed all the instructions for the down jacket, and it worked out great. The atom dries in about 1/3 the time, though,
I washed mine before i know this information and it become like first jacket (green) that you showed. Is there any way to fix it and become fluffy again or just throw it 😥😥? If i wash it again and dry it by the same technique it can come back fluffy!!!
When you wash again, don't use Detergent, as it probably still has some inside (which is the reason why it isn't fluffy anymore). Once you've rinsed it, Press with your hand to remove excess water, don't twist it. Then put it in a Washing Machine Dryer for twenty minutes. Take it out, massage it with your hand to remove clumps, then put it in the dryer again for 20 minutes Repeat this process 3-4 times, and you should be good. If you get a lot of Sun, then you can try tumble Drying 2&3 times, and leave out in the sun (turn it inside out to prevent fading). That should be good.
theres a decent down wash from nikwax www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/product_Nikwax-Down-Wash-Direct_10304610_10208_10000001_-1_?hybridPLA=true&ad_id=GooglePlusBox&GooglePlusBox&PLA&Nikwax&scid=scplp2940466&sc_intid=2940466&adpos=1o1&ad_id=Google&kcid=49093999-eec2-423a-802b-ba092192320a&PPC&GOOGLE&SC%2BShopping%2B-%2BPromo&lsft=adtype:pla,channel:online&gclid=CjwKCAjwiurXBRAnEiwAk2GFZtwxMjCS7G4AsghJ3fVkllbbrcrqGJySi98EmJTPpQPvVECNmX1PVhoCozcQAvD_BwE
You said in the video to spray your jacket with DWR. Do we do this while our coat is still wet? Or after we have hung it up for a few hours to air dry?
Rashpal Bhati your saying you can afford to hang it in your sauna but not leave it in the dryer? Also that’s for the whole process not just the time it’s in the dryer
@@themonkeydoo3 Yes the sauna room in Finland, where I live, is common place and always warm (little cost involved) compared to running dryer for hours, alternatively putting it another warm room or near a radiator seems less wasteful. Thanks I see you added comment that 3hrs includes wash/dry time.
It won't dry overnight, nor in a few days. It will clump like crazy and will start to smell because of the damp feathers. You need a dryer, simple as that.
Hi Danny, We recommend machine washing in cold water on a gentle cycle, and tumble drying on low heat on a delicate setting. No bleach, no ironing, no wringing it out, no dry cleaning! We recommend spray-on DWR treatements (after washing) such as Arc’teryx Nu Care Products ReviveX® Durable Water Repellent Fibertec Blue Guard Spray-On. You can find more information here: www.arcteryx.com/product-care.aspx?country=us&language=en Cheers!
Would you recommend any turning inside out for the atom as well? Or just tossing it in the dryer straight after reapplying dwr? Also would regular detergent work for the atom?
For a long time, literally hours of tumbling I thought, "it's not working", with loads of clumps, but I kept going and miracles started to happen. Now I reckon the lofting is even better than when I first bought the jacket - is that possible, I wonder?
How do I wash my arcteryx that has gortex outer layer and down inside? Can I wash with it with gortex washing solution and follow the down washing procedure in this video? Or I have to use down specific solution in place of gortex solution? Please help
basicsurfer08 - Seriously though...As far as underarm odor goes, shaving my pits DOES get rid of odor for me personally. If you use a deodorant cream called "Lavilin" right before bed you wont need deodorant for about 2 weeks in winter or 1 week in hot weather. Even longer if you're drinking apple cider vinegar each day. The best part is the Lavilin cream is the most natural deodorant on the market and it works the best (which is rare). I think the main ingredient that works so well is grapefruit seed extract.
air drying won't do it. you won't get the fluffiness back. When using a drying machine, those drying balls or tennis balls are necessary to regain the fluffiness back.
If you airdry, it might take 4 days to dry out, and even then it isn't a guarantee. The best is to tumble dry 2-3 times, then you may leave it out in the sun for an hour or two.
I feel like my down has lost its waterproof abilities. When I was at snow, I could feel the water coming through the surface of my jacket. And it’s a 650fill Kathmandu. Any suggestions guys??
MF SHECKS - As long as you wear a base layer of clothing so that the jacket never touches skin directly the down wont absorb your body oils for a long time. I wear my Arcteryx jacket almost every day through winter and I find once per year is fine. But I live in Texas so the winters are shorter. If I lived further North I would probably wash twice per year.
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Whoever decided to do this outside was a creative genius.
It’s a studio there are no real trees etc but it’s a great idea and very realistic ☺️😉
@@alexandraK3989 Ah, I was wondering why the outdoor recording sound quality can be so good haha
I can tell you without any doubt this was in a real forest 😂
PROBLEM: I had issues with clumping even after following these instructions as well as other similar instructions from other manufacturers. Turns out the city water feeding my washing machine has a lot of limestone mineral deposits. The hard water left microscopic minerals mixed with the down which prevented it lofting properly.
FIX: I installed a 5 micron inline water filter made for washing machines ($50 off Amazon). I also dissolved 1tsp of borax/1tbsp baking soda in 1 cup of warm water, pouring the mixture into the bleach holding tray of my front loader washing machine. This mixture supposedly softens hard water by preventing minerals from clumping together so they tend to leave during the drain cycle instead of hanging around in the goose down.
SUMMARY: Using the 5 micron filter along with the baking soda/borax mixture worked beautifully! My "Enlightened Equipment" top quilt and Arcteryx jacket came out of the dryer fully lofted with no dead spots or clumping. So YES, the water quality makes a big difference when washing.
Great tip, thanks for posting
Took my time, got down wash and DWR, and followed this step by step. My Cerium jacket is loftier than ever. Feels brand new and I took it over 2,000 miles on the AT. Stoked!
Awesome! Glad it worked out.
do we have to wash them while outside?
required
Need to find a forest with wireless charger as well
Yes you do it in the forest and you gotta make sure the washing machine color is white, otherwise your jacket color will change!!!
@@abidethedudeski2307 ROFL!
what kind of madman drags 2 washing machines outside in the snow just to film a video lol
Thanks for this! Found the instructions to zip up the jacket and putting in the net for top-down washers helpful, as well as the heat setting for drying. Just washed my old Patagonia down jacket and put 5 tennis balls in the low heat dry setting for 45 mins - came out awesome. Here's to another 7 years with this jacket!
Nice! But I was wondering why he was filming outside, so my daughter said, "maybe, he doesn't have a house." LOL
Because he spent all his money on an Arc'teryx jacket lol
@Korbin Ayden sod off creep
Man kids are the funniest
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha thats true, he is homeless
Holy crap that music is awesome, does anyone know where I can find this song?
Is it necessary to wash it in extreme cold temperature like in the video? What difference will it make?
Just got myself a Nice Landends Dawn long Winter Coat with hoodie and boy am I happy I got it. I had it Dry Cleaned but now I saw this Video I will have to find that DWR and give it a go next cleaning cycle. Great Video thanks so much !!!
How do I wash my Arc'teryx Veilance Node Jacket that has Gore-tex outer layer and down inside?
Secondly, I saw the video by Arc'teryx on how to reapply DWR to Gore-tex layer.
My next question is, will it damage the down inside the Node Jacket during the DWR heat activation process? Thank you
What a super advice, never new that 🎉, thanks for sharing 🙏👏👍
This is the most creative and hilarioooooous video I watched all time during lockdown. Thanks guys.
Can you link the product that you use?!
Can you wash the atom LT hoody’s like this as well?
Great video. It answers a lot of the questions I had (and things I did wrong previously)
Question! What about synthetics, such as atom lt?
I washed a down cerium lt, with my atom 2 nights ago. i followed all the instructions for the down jacket, and it worked out great. The atom dries in about 1/3 the time, though,
So you apply DWR before putting it in the dryer?
I washed mine before i know this information and it become like first jacket (green) that you showed. Is there any way to fix it and become fluffy again or just throw it 😥😥?
If i wash it again and dry it by the same technique it can come back fluffy!!!
When you're drying your jacket, just put 2 or 3 tennis balls in your dryer and your jacket will regain fluffiness.
When you wash again, don't use Detergent, as it probably still has some inside (which is the reason why it isn't fluffy anymore).
Once you've rinsed it, Press with your hand to remove excess water, don't twist it. Then put it in a Washing Machine Dryer for twenty minutes.
Take it out, massage it with your hand to remove clumps, then put it in the dryer again for 20 minutes
Repeat this process 3-4 times, and you should be good.
If you get a lot of Sun, then you can try tumble Drying 2&3 times, and leave out in the sun (turn it inside out to prevent fading).
That should be good.
I’m more concerned about those washers being outside.
Does this apply for Atom LT/AR also?
those are obviously not down jackets
Is it okay to use a top-load washer without an agitator?
Who makes a good down detergent and DWR spray?
What detergent product do you guys use to wash the downs jacket? Thanks
theres a decent down wash from nikwax
www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/product_Nikwax-Down-Wash-Direct_10304610_10208_10000001_-1_?hybridPLA=true&ad_id=GooglePlusBox&GooglePlusBox&PLA&Nikwax&scid=scplp2940466&sc_intid=2940466&adpos=1o1&ad_id=Google&kcid=49093999-eec2-423a-802b-ba092192320a&PPC&GOOGLE&SC%2BShopping%2B-%2BPromo&lsft=adtype:pla,channel:online&gclid=CjwKCAjwiurXBRAnEiwAk2GFZtwxMjCS7G4AsghJ3fVkllbbrcrqGJySi98EmJTPpQPvVECNmX1PVhoCozcQAvD_BwE
Did you find a good down detergent?
Are you the same Devin from the seminal 2012 video? 😱It's 2019 and I still refer back to that video every time I wash my Goretex!
Can you wash multiple jackets at the same time or do they need to be done individually?
If you use Nikwax, you can use 1 container of 100 mL for up to 3 jackets.
Three jackets at the same time with 100 mL of Nikwax.
You said in the video to spray your jacket with DWR. Do we do this while our coat is still wet? Or after we have hung it up for a few hours to air dry?
@@brandondavidson751 why applying it when its wet?
Wouldn't the dryer work better inside when it doesn't have to work against the cold snow outside?
hi, do we suppose to apply DWR while the jacket is wet? Why not when it was dry
dwr needs heat apparently, there are posts about it on reddit
What brand are you wearing??
The BRAND new one. Get it?! I'll show myself out.
Will my jacket come out puffier if I move my washer and dryer in to the snow?
Do you spray it with DWR and immediately put it in the drier?
I wait a few min like the bottle suggests
3hrs of electricity use 🤔 or can you not just hang it in a sauna room or other warm room to dry overnight?
Rashpal Bhati your saying you can afford to hang it in your sauna but not leave it in the dryer? Also that’s for the whole process not just the time it’s in the dryer
@@themonkeydoo3 Yes the sauna room in Finland, where I live, is common place and always warm (little cost involved) compared to running dryer for hours, alternatively putting it another warm room or near a radiator seems less wasteful. Thanks I see you added comment that 3hrs includes wash/dry time.
In North America, especially Canada, we enjoy free electricity and power outlets in the woods. I hope I have answered your questions.
It won't dry overnight, nor in a few days. It will clump like crazy and will start to smell because of the damp feathers. You need a dryer, simple as that.
@@Mikishots Makes sense, thanks.
Is the cap full of detergent 30ml of the arcteryx wash?
What beanie is he wearing?
anyone wanna tell me the best dwr is / where to get it. pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
I’ve got a ATOM AR can any 1 help me,On what to wash it with and what’s the best DWR water proofed for this jacket
Hi Danny, We recommend machine washing in cold water on a gentle cycle, and tumble drying on low heat on a delicate setting. No bleach, no ironing, no wringing it out, no dry cleaning! We recommend spray-on DWR treatements (after washing) such as Arc’teryx Nu Care Products
ReviveX® Durable Water Repellent
Fibertec Blue Guard Spray-On. You can find more information here: www.arcteryx.com/product-care.aspx?country=us&language=en Cheers!
Would you recommend any turning inside out for the atom as well? Or just tossing it in the dryer straight after reapplying dwr? Also would regular detergent work for the atom?
For a long time, literally hours of tumbling I thought, "it's not working", with loads of clumps, but I kept going and miracles started to happen. Now I reckon the lofting is even better than when I first bought the jacket - is that possible, I wonder?
Best way if you’re getting clumping is to do it by hand.
How do I wash my arcteryx that has gortex outer layer and down inside? Can I wash with it with gortex washing solution and follow the down washing procedure in this video? Or I have to use down specific solution in place of gortex solution? Please help
Use down wash. Better to take care of the more delicate fabric. You can always spot clean the goretex with performance wash
Hi! Can i wash 2 or 3 light puffer jacket ta the same time and not just one? All the videos i watched, they just show one.
It's recommended to wash them one at a time.
@@LightSpearX thank you!
I don’t have a tumble dryer. Any advice on how to perform the drying process without a dryer?
Sunny Chan maybe dry taking it to a dry cleaner or someone who does have a dryer
a very sunny day and good massage hands. Still, nothing really beats a tumble dryer.
What size is he wearing ?
Does this apply to cleaning the north face jacket
*get the fuck outta here*
What type of detergent should be used for syntetic insulated jackets?
Ok but why outside on the snow?
@Cheeto For fun :-) Thanks to this the video is unique and is more remembered. I like it.
What is DWR
Durable Water Repellent.
It basically means clothes which repel water.
Brought to you by Designs Within Reach.
my jacket started giving bit of smell so i shaved my underarm hair and that did the trick 😜
basicsurfer08 - Seriously though...As far as underarm odor goes, shaving my pits DOES get rid of odor for me personally. If you use a deodorant cream called "Lavilin" right before bed you wont need deodorant for about 2 weeks in winter or 1 week in hot weather. Even longer if you're drinking apple cider vinegar each day. The best part is the Lavilin cream is the most natural deodorant on the market and it works the best (which is rare). I think the main ingredient that works so well is grapefruit seed extract.
My jacket took 7 hours to wash and dry completely
Do you recommend these steps for synthetic filled jackets, such as the Atom series with coreloft insulation?
Atom is fine with regular detergent.
add dwr wash in for extra durability
is drying machine more efficient than just airdrying it?
air drying won't do it. you won't get the fluffiness back. When using a drying machine, those drying balls or tennis balls are necessary to regain the fluffiness back.
If you airdry, it might take 4 days to dry out, and even then it isn't a guarantee.
The best is to tumble dry 2-3 times, then you may leave it out in the sun for an hour or two.
So I can wash my atom lt the same way?
Love this brand 😎
3 + hrs to clean this?!? ...
To dry, not wash...
I washed my cerium and now its full of clumps
Can I have a free jacket ?
I feel like my down has lost its waterproof abilities. When I was at snow, I could feel the water coming through the surface of my jacket. And it’s a 650fill Kathmandu. Any suggestions guys??
Joel Delaney new jacket lol
I don't think any down is waterproof. You are probably talking about the DWR in the fabric. Just wash the down and reapply with a DWR spray.
Great video but why did you have to put the poor guy freezing his a$$ off in the snow just to show us how to wash our jackets?
DWR ?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durable_water_repellent
I didn’t realise you can wash and dry your clothes outside.
I wash my Kathmandu duck down jacket every week in Delhi 😂 I think I’m doing it wrong from the last 3 years deymmm
Please do not wash the down jacket, any washing will damage it.
He really said wash once a season or once a year??? I tough it was like once a month or every two weeks !!!
MF SHECKS - As long as you wear a base layer of clothing so that the jacket never touches skin directly the down wont absorb your body oils for a long time. I wear my Arcteryx jacket almost every day through winter and I find once per year is fine. But I live in Texas so the winters are shorter. If I lived further North I would probably wash twice per year.
Wtf is a down jacket
The dude sounds so sad and depressed. Is it because he had to wash his down jacket while wearing his other down jacket that’s not really his favorite?
Watched it and I starting to thinking how a moron can move two wash machines in the snow and filming at same time
Ewww, What kind of bum let's that much crap build on their jacket...
Do I need to take my washing machine outside when there's snow everywhere to was my down jacket? STUPID VIDEO!