Confronting the Enlightenment's mistakes | Kehinde Andrews full interview

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas
    @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas  Рік тому +2

    Do you think that it's possible to understand texts in isolation? Leave your thoughts in the comments!
    Watch Kehinde debate how our construction of race impacts the future at: iai.tv/video/sins-of-the-past-visions-of-the-future?UA-cam&

  • @thstroyur
    @thstroyur Рік тому +16

    "Confronting the Enlightenment's mistakes" - like the ideologies that gave rise to 'scholars' like this?

  • @matthewabln6989
    @matthewabln6989 Рік тому +19

    Anybody else hear circus music?

    • @corporealchaosconsulting78
      @corporealchaosconsulting78 Рік тому +9

      Nope 😁 probably a bit of psychosis on ur part. Luckily this man speaks on that.

    • @matthewabln6989
      @matthewabln6989 Рік тому +9

      @@corporealchaosconsulting78 His ramblings on psychosis were entertaining given his deeply racist motivations for dismissing sound philosophy without addressing it directly. He appears to be the professor of Navel-Gazing 101.

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher Рік тому

      @@corporealchaosconsulting78, respected British anthropology professor, Dr. Edward Dutton, has demonstrated that “LEFTISM” is due to genetic mutations caused by poor breeding strategies.
      🤡
      To put it simply, in recent decades, those persons who exhibit leftist traits such as egalitarianism, feminism, socialism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, perverse morality, and laziness, have been reproducing at rates far exceeding the previous norm, leading to an explosion of insane, narcissistic SOCIOPATHS in (mostly) Western societies.

    • @abbebepayne6015
      @abbebepayne6015 8 місяців тому

      Racist call anything anti-racist racist. Like a thief complaining the owner stole his property from the thief by reclaiming it

    • @ModinikiLuli-m5n
      @ModinikiLuli-m5n 6 місяців тому

      No really Matthew. Truth hurts don't it. Your the most evil in history.

  • @readynowforever3676
    @readynowforever3676 Рік тому +11

    I’m an American Black Man Progressive Liberal, and I must say that this guy contradicts himself on key aspects of his premise.

  • @edbop
    @edbop Рік тому +10

    Would have been useful if you could have asked him what his understanding of the difference between rationality and reason is.

  • @B_Estes_Undegöetz
    @B_Estes_Undegöetz Рік тому +5

    Who is the marginal nobody? To pretend Western Europe didn’t do something unique (and uniquely bad in many ways) in the 16th to 18th centuries is just absurd. This nonsense might have seemed interesting 30 to 50 years ago. But with so much riding on the outcome now to pretend Africa or Asia or Native Americans were also on a path of scientific, technological and economic development and dominance of the physical environment as well as unique power to dominate (and even destroy) each other that Western Europeans were is just irresponsible. The solution to the current global crisis isn’t going to be found in some cultural alternatives and local communities, etc. Recognizing the problem for what it is and where it came from and the ethos behind its creation is necessary for its solution.
    Trying to wave your hand 0:38 over western science and technology and the enlightenment and pretending that makes its unique significance go away is so irresponsible. No one says any longer that the rest of the world was in a dark age.

  • @gregorycmar459
    @gregorycmar459 Рік тому +15

    I would have enjoyed a presentation on mistakes of the Enlightenment. Instead I got a presentation on why wokeness is a mistake. Next time, find someone who has actually done the research, the topic is fascinating.

  • @fpxy00
    @fpxy00 Рік тому +4

    Is there an evidence of existance significant non-racist liberal society before enlightment europe?
    In other words was there a significant society which abolished slavery before Europe?

  • @nkanyezitshabalala5256
    @nkanyezitshabalala5256 Рік тому +7

    Sorry for this bad comment but I thought the IAI actually had standards. It's disappointing to see you invite such figures.

  • @ericrobinson7184
    @ericrobinson7184 11 місяців тому +4

    Excellent Points!!!

  • @FrankOdonnell-ej3hd
    @FrankOdonnell-ej3hd Рік тому +31

    as soon as I heard him call the enlightenment white identity politics I stopped listening⚛😀

    • @wilbertvandenberg3158
      @wilbertvandenberg3158 Рік тому +2

      Me too.

    • @bentz98125
      @bentz98125 Рік тому +8

      I listened closer.

    • @ZTE-ud1be
      @ZTE-ud1be Рік тому

      same here :)@@bentz98125

    • @B_Estes_Undegöetz
      @B_Estes_Undegöetz Рік тому

      The Enlightenment is white identity politics?This is not a serious person interested in unifying political solutions, clearly; he’s more interested in lobbing rocks from over the other side of the fence of his tiny gate-kept community of specialist intellectuals. They give degrees in that now? Anti-Enlightenment studies? You’re helping the actual fascists there you know “professor”? They hate the Enlightenment and it’s universal values and egalitarianism and democracy too. I guess we wouldn’t want that getting out though would we? If anything defines “white identity politics” it’s the counter enlightenment … the philosophical movement that lead from Romanticism through parts of German idealism then up to fascism … not the Enlightenment. Be honest professor. Stop your trolling. The world’s a dangerous enough place.

    • @jeremyt4292
      @jeremyt4292 Рік тому +6

      ​@@bentz98125I thought it was spot on tbh

  • @science212
    @science212 Рік тому +5

    Reason is the most important cognitive frame in the human brain.
    Don't forget it.

  • @MP-ye6tv
    @MP-ye6tv Рік тому +5

    useless word salad!!

  • @mitchellwashington8882
    @mitchellwashington8882 Рік тому +2

    Yes it is possible to analyze and appreciate text in isolation. A holistic view can only be achieved from a point of privilege. I am curious to learn how Timbuktu came to collect more books than all of Europe. Let's copy that style for this new radical change. That is a more constructive approach to a conversation about intellectual progress than the dismantling of whiteness.

  • @UnathiGX
    @UnathiGX Рік тому +3

    This is interesting.

  • @hermitdelirus7065
    @hermitdelirus7065 Рік тому +5

    I don't know if he is smarter than this, but this man can't really hide that he doesn't know how to read. Kant was spoken too many times here and I could barely find him. I think no one who understand at least the basic concepts of Kant will say you are better off not reading Kant, even someone who knows and is sensitive to the racist tenets beneath this historical period wouldn't say that.

  • @MxLee192
    @MxLee192 Рік тому +9

    Oh, it's the racist guy who has a career in legitimating racism under the guise of so called anti racism.

    • @xanderlee4733
      @xanderlee4733 10 місяців тому +4

      How is he racist? LOL.

    • @chriswatson3464
      @chriswatson3464 9 місяців тому

      He hates white people and condemns us over and over again.

    • @abbebepayne6015
      @abbebepayne6015 8 місяців тому

      ​@@xanderlee4733 cause Counter-Racist responses to Racism equates to hurt feelings of the dominant worldview

  • @Dingus3000
    @Dingus3000 Рік тому +10

    This is hilarious

  • @tylerdurden2577
    @tylerdurden2577 Рік тому +9

    "We just take the bits we like and leave the bits we don't like - that's not how knowledge works" Every philosophy which doesn't perfectly fit in the current moral view of our Zeitgeist (and by that he means his understanding of identity politics) should be discarded. What is this ridiculous and deeply regressive bs, haha?

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Рік тому +2

      Not so fast. Virtually all science today is funded by those whose interests are different from those of the scientists. The military and pharmaceuticals businesses decide which research occurs. That's how knowledge works these days.

    • @tylerdurden2577
      @tylerdurden2577 Рік тому +1

      @@drbuckley1 whats your point in the context of what I wrote?

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Рік тому +1

      Sorry for the confusion. I thought your comment, "should be discarded," meant something different than I thought. I didn't think the guest meant everyone whose disagrees with him is wrong, but maybe he did and I missed it. My response to you was entirely different, so the fault is mine. @@tylerdurden2577

    • @tylerdurden2577
      @tylerdurden2577 Рік тому +1

      @@drbuckley1 no problem. I agree with your point in general btw

    • @abbebepayne6015
      @abbebepayne6015 8 місяців тому +1

      He never said anyone had to discard whole philosophies because the contributers were racist. He said we needed to acknowledge the racist and other contexts the ideologies are borne from. He literally said he is not discouraging ones from engaging knowledge or philosophy old or new

  • @ReginaJune
    @ReginaJune Рік тому

    12:18. Anyone catch The Sex Pistols Riverboat Concert during The Queen’s Jubilee?
    Queen’s Jubilee sounds like Summer on Fire Island - just sayin’

  • @aeonian4560
    @aeonian4560 Рік тому +13

    is guy is not a sophisticated thinker, not nuanced, very ideological and the embodyment of woke academia

    • @aeonian4560
      @aeonian4560 Рік тому +1

      he commits the historical fallacy when he compares figures like David Hume and Immanuel Kant to our standards of universal human rights. They sparked those humanistic values and had been the progressives of their times. The reason they were racist is because that's where the whole world was at that time. Anti-Racism is also one of the fruits of western enlightenment humanism.

    • @aeonian4560
      @aeonian4560 Рік тому +1

      If Kehinde Andrew would have lived in the 18th century he would be much more racist than David Hume or Immanuel Kant, since he obviously isn't comparably smart.

    • @sophitsa79
      @sophitsa79 Рік тому +1

      What nuance is missing in his answers?

    • @aeonian4560
      @aeonian4560 Рік тому +6

      ​@@sophitsa79 He is reactionarily criticising away the same branch on which he is sitting on. He argues for a world in which no one is superior - exept for the western world and the enlightenment tradition which is inferior - Although this same traditon is the first one to spread the values of human equality on a large scale. - And the one he used to criticize the Enlightenment. - Leibnitz, Newton, Hume and Kant really thought about things while he is just moralising, scapegoating and reacting.

    • @abbebepayne6015
      @abbebepayne6015 8 місяців тому

      U are a fine example of the ingrained Racism he is addressing. Where did U get the idea enlightenment was the first idea to proport human equality on a large scale. Or it is the branch he rests on? U are triggered

  • @thurstanderipley
    @thurstanderipley Рік тому +31

    Unserious and biased. I'm sick of marginal personalities trying to claim credit for literally nothing. I'm not sure I should continue following your podcast. I was hoping for serious scholarship.

    • @nkanyezitshabalala5256
      @nkanyezitshabalala5256 Рік тому +4

      Agreed. They can't stoop so low. This is what happens with content creators they run out of things to present and so now have to broaden the scope of what they do such as this. It's sad really.

    • @jeremyt4292
      @jeremyt4292 Рік тому +2

      Get gone then, if you can't entertain an idea without believing it, and clearly you aren't even attempting to refute it, then who even needs you around?

    • @everythingexcept2805
      @everythingexcept2805 11 місяців тому

      This disgusting comment on this wonderful and informing video only shows the Rot in the racist European mind instead of dealing with the hate and bigotry inherent in their hearts they resort to petty insults and gross stupidity and straghit up violent and genocidal behavior it is pathetic and sad that European thugs have been allowed to get away with this for this long but no more

    • @Dark_Spark007
      @Dark_Spark007 6 місяців тому

      ​@@jeremyt4292thanks for saying it better than I ever could.............................

    • @eccentricaste3232
      @eccentricaste3232 5 місяців тому +2

      Cognitive dissonance. You don't need to announce your departure, no one cares.

  • @bentz98125
    @bentz98125 Рік тому +1

    All literacy and education have historical roots in economically exploitative elitism The amount of leisure time required for their acquisition practically guarantees it. Exceptions in pre-agricultural, pre-industrialized, and post-industrialized economies of course exist, but only insofar as serving to prove the rule. It is hard to find educated, literate people in any culture who don't presume some variation of moral superiority over those outside the privilege enjoyed by their own class. To not see the racist flavor of moral superiority claimed by the icons of educated western elites is neither very educated nor literate!

    • @piaschuhmann2527
      @piaschuhmann2527 Рік тому

      I think that makes sense; especially your first sentence. But what do we make of it? How do we approach western philosophy with this in mind?

  • @eccentricaste3232
    @eccentricaste3232 5 місяців тому +1

    Very insightful.

  • @laowai769
    @laowai769 Рік тому +2

    It's good to see people go after the enlightenment philosophers, they are seen as demigods and they really weren't that special

  • @ReginaJune
    @ReginaJune Рік тому +2

    Hasn’t it been proven that the world was originally one land mass that broke into continents? Therefore all the first people were African. Even my ancient DNA says I have genetics shared with Kenyans and West Africans. My last 5 generations were Europeans, Latin Americans… of course Missouri used to be Mexico and Native Americans are indigenous to the USA and Canada ….. so, whatever - it doesn’t really change anything in the end does it? Like your grandma or mom probably said: it’s what’s on the inside that matters.

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Рік тому

      Racism is not the same thing as white supremacy. That's our problem, right there.

    • @ReginaJune
      @ReginaJune Рік тому

      @@EdHarrisonMusic smarty pants

  • @clivesmith9377
    @clivesmith9377 Рік тому +12

    Malcolm X is his favourite intellectual?!?!? 😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @bentz98125
      @bentz98125 Рік тому +3

      Mine too. Him or John Brown, can't decide which.

    • @abbebepayne6015
      @abbebepayne6015 8 місяців тому

      The fact U find his admiration for Malcolm X laughable says so much about Ur lack of intelligence 😂

    • @abbebepayne6015
      @abbebepayne6015 8 місяців тому +3

      The fact U find his admiration for Malcolm X laughable says much about Ur intelligence

  • @hareshsingh8168
    @hareshsingh8168 Рік тому +8

    wtf is this guy talking about?

  • @1B3
    @1B3 8 місяців тому +2

    TRUTH HURTS ⚡⚡⚡

  • @stanlibuda96
    @stanlibuda96 Рік тому +6

    Weak.

  • @namagirihanuman
    @namagirihanuman 6 місяців тому

    Kant partially caused the U.N. declaration of rights and Malcolm x refers to it. Thomas Jefferson partially caused the US Constitution and Malcolm x refers to it. This is where a contradiction lies.

  • @kristofferehrnstromlundkvi3928

    Weak

  • @lamegalectora
    @lamegalectora 9 місяців тому +3

    Shallow wokism, we are tired of it

  • @RickDelmonico
    @RickDelmonico Рік тому +5

    Narrow framing and bias.

  • @ZTE-ud1be
    @ZTE-ud1be Рік тому

    Well, of course the "Frankfurt School" tries to break with exactly that ideological framework. And the school of thought by Michel Foucault's post-structuralism suggested that all thinking and emergence of ideas is based on "underlying EPISTEMEs" which means: they are products of their time. Reflection upon that is not to be confused with relativization, and the periphery of ignorance has always been attached to past endevours in epistemology - especially in retrospect. In that way, I understand the talking points of this truly enriching interview not only as an expression of todays - unfortunately very often occurring - racisms and classisms. Where I'm from, the debate is very much alive and ongoing. We tend to address the problem very much in a similar fashion: PROPAGANDA. Luckily, the counter culture - also in academic fields of expertise - has recognized the problem of propaganda and rather proactively addresses it, starting with HISTORY itself. I mean... just think of all the MEGALITHIC remnants of ancient cultures. Scientists like anthropologist and archeologist Dr. David Wengrow follow in that new tradition of thinking. And of course we mustn't forget about the science of the OCCULT, the grand field of PARA-Science, or the NEW SCIENCE RELIGION as well as all research regarding the VERY long held but unpopular theory tied to PREHISTORIC EVIDENCE of ALIEN ASTRONAUTS. What I try to pinpoint is the (yes, dualistic) conflict of main stream science & thought VS ALL THE REST. Scientific and public dialogue is often rigged...

  • @alst4817
    @alst4817 10 днів тому

    Oof, this guy is embarrassing to listen to. I would expect better of a first year undergraduate student

  • @hobbabobba7912
    @hobbabobba7912 Рік тому

    'Human rights are white supremacy' is a rather controversial opinion. My question would be how does one guarantee a right to prosperty?

    • @matthewabln6989
      @matthewabln6989 Рік тому

      Answer: Teach a generation this drivel.

    • @readynowforever3676
      @readynowforever3676 Рік тому

      So, @matthewablen6989 didn’t offer a thoughtful manifesto.
      And full disclosure, as a Heterosexual Black Liberal Progressive American I agree that these postulations are “drivel”.
      But as a social cultural strategical approach to your question:
      You “guarantee a right to prosperity” by a society not installing the impediments when that society is designing its social structures.

    • @matthewabln6989
      @matthewabln6989 Рік тому

      @@readynowforever3676 It's just racism.

  • @virginiarobin
    @virginiarobin Рік тому +1

    Has humanity yet understood the true meaning of autonomy? I don’t believe so. To me, autonomy means following our intuitive guidance. And there is an extra dimension to it. True autonomy operates from a loving place. There is a paradox here that when we exist and coexist in love, we are inclusive, accepting and collaborative. This does not create hierarchies, which I believe is our present downfall.

  • @corporealchaosconsulting78
    @corporealchaosconsulting78 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if any white people will show up, willing to actually contend with whiteness, as opposed to deny it as they live it. 🤔

    • @antirealist
      @antirealist Рік тому

      I wonder if any poorly educated, resentful, ideological grifters will show up trying to sound woke by supporting movements that claim to represent justice but in reality merely take what they want from others by playing the "I'm ____ oppressed group" card? 🤔

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Рік тому

      Should white people decline privilege when offered?

    • @bentz98125
      @bentz98125 Рік тому

      I think I qualify. Not because I'm better than anyone else, but merely because I have white skin, blue eyes, and claim not to be an idiot.

    • @stereoroid
      @stereoroid Рік тому +4

      What does it mean to “contend with whiteness”? Is “whiteness” a bad thing?

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Рік тому

      "Whiteness" is a euphemism for white supremacy. That's a bad thing. @@stereoroid

  • @Alex-ti7xc
    @Alex-ti7xc Рік тому

    Bachelor of Salt