Broadcast 200lbs wheat rye mix into the clover 1st of August. Lightly mow clover and lime. (Lightly mow) Close to year around in Michigan type weather.
I'm in Wisconsin and I totally agree. Clover gets a bad rap from some popular you tubers. Annual clover is outstanding as well as perennial. I prefer annual but have both on my property.
Nice video, I agree with what you guys are saying. Clover works the best in my area of upstate NY Saying that you guys need to man up as you have no idea what cold is. Lol. We average 4 foot of ice on our lakes..
Love this, guys. Right now, I am limited to three acres. I want something to plant around the home front. Clover sounds like the perfect crop to bring in the critters I want to see. :)
Great conversation and good points. Nice thing is clover perennial and can handle some shade so less maintenance. Winter food is lowest hole in bucket to plug
If you want a good food plot for perennials, buy a quality seed. Access to equipment like a tractor and disc harrow to prepare the field. You will have good results, always attempt to broadcast the seed before it rains to prevent the birds from trying to eat the seeds. Clover is excellent at attracting deer. Mix in a blend of Chicory and in the late summer prepare an area for brassica. We have lots of rocks in our soil so it’s good to plow an area remove as many large rocks. A roto tiller is best for the turnip bulbs to grow big. Deer will hit that in November.
Here in Michigan, I have a clover plot that I almost never hunt over. Its main objective is to give doe's quality food in the spring through early fall and to hold a bachelor group of bucks on the property through early October. After early October, it doesn't seem to get hit too often because it's getting colder out. A general rule of thumb is on warm fronts, hunt greens. Cold fronts, hunt carbs. When a deer is cold, they need those carbs for energy to get their core temperature up.
Agreed. Some northern regions that have snow on the ground for a good portion of the winter might prefer a food source that isn't going to be buried under snow. But a good perennial plot can provide food throughout the most important time (spring) through summer and into the fall/winter!
But clover stops growing after the first frost. The ability of peas and brassicas to get grazed and keep regrowing during the hunting season can be a huge advantage over clover.
In much of the country it may be slowed by the first frost but with warmer days over 50 degrees it greens back up and can still provide forage. Once established, it can provide forage for the majority of the year, based on your location. Thats one significant advantage it has on annuals like brassicas and peas that only provide forage in fall/winter months. Also, deer are most nutritionally stressed right about when an established clover plot starts to become viable again. Does are lactating and bucks are growing antlers and thats when they need quality forage the most. It totally depends on your goals for your property, If your goal is to have a nice green food plot to hunt over in November, then annuals like brassicas and peas are great. If your goal is to provide quality forage when deer need it most annuals might not meet that goal. Neither is right or wrong!!
@@Whitetail_Properties I'm in upstate New York. So in those cold stressful winter and early spring months, cereal rye strongly outperforms clover. Is there a disadvantage to Winter rye in the south?
@@Whitetail_Properties That makes sense. In the northeast there is a period of several months where the clover does not grow, and the majority of the hunting season is within that time period. Cereal rye will produce well over 3x the dry matter in its growing season than the best clover will in an entire year. During the time of year that rye is actively growing, the deer up here will not hesitate to use it as a major food source.
You two have made contradictory statements and given a lot of misinformation. So its in the teens and with two days of 50 degree temperature that plot will start to grow?! So soil temps in 24 hours will be high enough to activate growth? Are you kidding me? You talk about growing corn that will be mature in October and December and suggest thats not optimal? Oh ya who wants high quality food during the high of the hunting season?!! I could go on but I think you guys get my point!
You misunderstood. The plot is already established, when the temperatures start to rise the clover will "pop" as Adam said, or perk up. There was no mention of seed being spread or germinating. Frost seeding will take place in February or March depending on weather and your location. Regarding grain food plots, they were explaining that grain plots are planted in the summer and with corn in particular, offer very little food value until the kernels mature, which yes, that is during the peak of the hunting season typically. The point was that an established stand of perennial clover and chicory offers food nearly all year, unlike grain - and if maintained, can do so for many years. Which can significantly reduce the costs of providing quality forage for deer on your property.
Broadcast 200lbs wheat rye mix into the clover 1st of August. Lightly mow clover and lime. (Lightly mow) Close to year around in Michigan type weather.
Yes I am doing the same in northern Michigan. Seems to be the best for my property.
@@robertredinger9991 I am in northern Michigan. 25 miles north of Oscoda in a little town named Lincoln.
Works for Maine also did well this year on mine still hitting it now
Sounds like you've got it dialed in for your neck of the woods, and that's awesome!
Thank you gents. Well done. Appreciate the encouragement.
I'm in Wisconsin and I totally agree. Clover gets a bad rap from some popular you tubers. Annual clover is outstanding as well as perennial. I prefer annual but have both on my property.
Amen, we totally agree!
Nice video, I agree with what you guys are saying. Clover works the best in my area of upstate NY
Saying that you guys need to man up as you have no idea what cold is. Lol. We average 4 foot of ice on our lakes..
Thanks! And yes when we hear things like "4 feet of ice" we realize we don't have it so bad here in the mid-west!
I agree I have a plot of whitetail institute imperial clover deer and Turkey's love it
Love this, guys. Right now, I am limited to three acres. I want something to plant around the home front. Clover sounds like the perfect crop to bring in the critters I want to see. :)
Get yourself a nice perennial plot established and we think you'll be in good shape!
Great conversation and good points. Nice thing is clover perennial and can handle some shade so less maintenance. Winter food is lowest hole in bucket to plug
If you want a good food plot for perennials, buy a quality seed. Access to equipment like a tractor and disc harrow to prepare the field. You will have good results, always attempt to broadcast the seed before it rains to prevent the birds from trying to eat the seeds. Clover is excellent at attracting deer.
Mix in a blend of Chicory and in the late summer prepare an area for brassica. We have lots of rocks in our soil so it’s good to plow an area remove as many large rocks. A roto tiller is best for the turnip bulbs to grow big. Deer will hit that in November.
I prefer a lister breaking plow and a disc to a tiller does a lot better job deeper.
Winter rye grain would be a good mix with clover
Cow peas in summer Rye in fall drilled in, you can also drill turnips.
Here in Michigan, I have a clover plot that I almost never hunt over. Its main objective is to give doe's quality food in the spring through early fall and to hold a bachelor group of bucks on the property through early October. After early October, it doesn't seem to get hit too often because it's getting colder out. A general rule of thumb is on warm fronts, hunt greens. Cold fronts, hunt carbs. When a deer is cold, they need those carbs for energy to get their core temperature up.
Nailed it! Thanks for sharing!
Clover is my main plot.Brasuc,turips,rape etc,sits next to clover for varities.Thank U
I think snow has something to do with deer and folks preferring grains in the winter.
Agreed. Some northern regions that have snow on the ground for a good portion of the winter might prefer a food source that isn't going to be buried under snow. But a good perennial plot can provide food throughout the most important time (spring) through summer and into the fall/winter!
I have a small clover plot. So far so good. I'm looking to buy more hunting land, any suggestions???
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What type of clover do you recommend? Please provide for both sun and some shade.
We would recommend a mix of red clover, white clovers, alfalfa and chicory.
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for south of prime whitetail country.
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You guys call that a clover plot put some lime and fertilizer on it and spray the grass out too many Bare spots.
But clover stops growing after the first frost. The ability of peas and brassicas to get grazed and keep regrowing during the hunting season can be a huge advantage over clover.
In much of the country it may be slowed by the first frost but with warmer days over 50 degrees it greens back up and can still provide forage. Once established, it can provide forage for the majority of the year, based on your location. Thats one significant advantage it has on annuals like brassicas and peas that only provide forage in fall/winter months. Also, deer are most nutritionally stressed right about when an established clover plot starts to become viable again. Does are lactating and bucks are growing antlers and thats when they need quality forage the most.
It totally depends on your goals for your property, If your goal is to have a nice green food plot to hunt over in November, then annuals like brassicas and peas are great. If your goal is to provide quality forage when deer need it most annuals might not meet that goal. Neither is right or wrong!!
@@Whitetail_Properties I'm in upstate New York. So in those cold stressful winter and early spring months, cereal rye strongly outperforms clover. Is there a disadvantage to Winter rye in the south?
@@ThirdLawPair In the midwest and south its not as preferred as clover and in the spring it grows too quick and the deer do not prefer it.
@@Whitetail_Properties That makes sense. In the northeast there is a period of several months where the clover does not grow, and the majority of the hunting season is within that time period. Cereal rye will produce well over 3x the dry matter in its growing season than the best clover will in an entire year. During the time of year that rye is actively growing, the deer up here will not hesitate to use it as a major food source.
@@ThirdLawPair Thanks for sharing that! We like hearing from people in different areas and sharing what works for them!
You two have made contradictory statements and given a lot of misinformation. So its in the teens and with two days of 50 degree temperature that plot will start to grow?! So soil temps in 24 hours will be high enough to activate growth? Are you kidding me? You talk about growing corn that will be mature in October and December and suggest thats not optimal? Oh ya who wants high quality food during the high of the hunting season?!! I could go on but I think you guys get my point!
You misunderstood. The plot is already established, when the temperatures start to rise the clover will "pop" as Adam said, or perk up. There was no mention of seed being spread or germinating. Frost seeding will take place in February or March depending on weather and your location. Regarding grain food plots, they were explaining that grain plots are planted in the summer and with corn in particular, offer very little food value until the kernels mature, which yes, that is during the peak of the hunting season typically. The point was that an established stand of perennial clover and chicory offers food nearly all year, unlike grain - and if maintained, can do so for many years. Which can significantly reduce the costs of providing quality forage for deer on your property.