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regarding the scene Danny speaks with Jack, I was revisiting it here on youtube when someoe in the comments mentioned "Jack reminds me of my alcoholic father in this part of the movie". And my mind was blown, because I realized the reason that scene was unnerving to me is because my interactions as a child with my alcoholic father were EXACTLY like that. The tone, the looks, the underlying feeling of danger, the "did your mother tell you I'm gonna hurt you" part.
Jack scares me because he acts just like my father the same misogynistic aggressive dominant behavior haunted me. He hardly ever laid a hand on me but his presence alone makes me afraid of him. I always felt like he wanted to hurt me and when he did i was scared for my saftey.
@@coffintears5821 Totally, I mean, personally I can't say my dad was bad because he wasn't, he just had serious problems with addiction, BUT I think that just speaks wonders of Jack as an actor! In some other parts of the movie his behaviour kinda crosses the line into exaggeration, but in this scene the vibes are SPOT ON. For me now it's one of the scariest scenes in the movie.
the fear and tension of just opening the door was so accurate
a trick: you can watch movies on KaldroStream. Been using it for watching loads of movies these days.
@Winston Huxley yup, have been watching on KaldroStream for since december myself :D
Its curious to notice that Danny's tricycle sounds like insects buzzing knowing that in the book there is an incident with him involving a wasp nest. For me, the book and the movie are two different stories, but both are amazing.
They are separate masterpieces, two pieces of art displayed in two separate places with altered setting…
I never noticed the not blinking!
yeah I will have to watch again for like the 100th time
Same in lord of the rings
I tried not to blink while watching the scene. It's really long!
yes! one thing that makes the viewing experience so strange for me is the idea that you constantly feel this sense of unease, but there seems to be a sort of disconnect in the unease you feel and what the characters seem to be experiencing. The scene where Danny and Wendy are walking through the maze together is a big example of that. It almost feels like you're watching through the eyes of the hotel/curse, you can hear this terrifying music and it feels like the maze is never going to end, and yet they're quite happy and fully immersed in what they're doing. It's a very jarring experience. It almost makes you wish you could turn around and get a look at whoever or whatever must be watching them, because it certainly feels like they're being watched.
This was great, but I wish more people would realize how much of an impact Diane Johnson had on the film. She's a Pulitzer nominated author and its the only screenplay she ever wrote. There's a great article she wrote if you google "scrapes from the loft" that really highlights what it was like working with Kubrick and just how much work she put in on other areas. I honestly don't think this would have been half the film it is without her involvement and highly recommend people find the article I'm talking about. It's probably the most detailed information you will find about how and why Kubrick choose to do the things he did with the film.
Thanks
Yes indeed! In fact, Kubrick considered setting her novel to film at first, but it was written in the first person and Kubrick finally decided on The Shining by Stephen King.
From experience, I can say that a sense of constant unease; walking on eggshells all the time is how it feels to live with someone with anger issues. Thank you for bringing attention to the way music in The Shining is out of sync, I hadn’t really thought of this, but it makes so much sense to give the exact feeling of being on edge all the time-that’s how Wendy and Danny would feel inside, living with Jack’s anger, but also if Wendy is schizophrenic and Danny has suffered sexual abuse (other theories), they’d feel this unease as well. Gosh I love this movie.
I'm not sure the sexual abuse is meant to be a literal part of the story, I think it's Kubrick deliberately fucking with our subconscious, just subtly juxtaposing images in way that you might not consciously notice but somewhere in your brain it's there making you deeply uneasy without quite knowing why. Which is why the 'bear costume' is distressing despite being on the surface kind of ridiculous - your mind is making those connections. It's effect over story - and it works horribly.
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Also the liminal spaces, and being that Kubrick was soo specific in detail, Why was Wendy the only “sane” one when, in her aspect ratio- a lamp was in a different place, things were moved only in her perspective? It has been a question that-?did the entire film elude to Wendy actually hallucinating the majority of what was happening? Was she the afflicted one? I love this film for how much it is still discussed to this day and the answers are all: we will probably never know. It is & always will be one of the most brilliant pairings of the genre
Just watch the movie for the first time and I love it 10/10 what a classic.
Agree
Can I ask how old you are? As it is interesting to see if, depending on your age, your comment. With respect :-)
I envy you seeing it for a first time! And yes, a classic.
If you liked it the first time you're gonna love it the 348th time 😅
Where I can watch it pls help
That's funny, I've always jokingly described this movie as "spooky music playing over shots of nothing happening". I had no idea it was a video-essay worthy observation.
It’s worth noting because things are most definitely happening
yeah I never really knew why the movie creeped me out so much besides some of the obvious parts
I also really like how the movie from the start goes into very gruesome topics like Danny having a seizure, jack being an abusive alcoholic, cannibalism, and a man going insane from isolation and killing his entire family. its like from the start of the movie it snatches you and never lets you go.
What I really love about this movie is that everything is unespected because you don't know what is going on or where they are. We don't even know how the hotel is distributed. So magical and unique, there is no other movie like this
I don't think I could verbalize what the music was doing, so I love how you describe it as out of sync. Paired with the ever-changing layout of the hotel, there's nowhere to anchor yourself. It's all tiptoeing in anxiety. Great analysis, loved itttt
I like what you say about the way the movie subtly reveals what is actually to be feared. Like there are really piercing images of violence or horror, that fade into a scene of Jack doing something monotonous, and the music ramps up like you say. To me the themes were always family, the insidiousness of ambiguity, the ordinariness of evil and the power of boredom and monotony. It's like when something horrific goes down we go looking for some other worldly explanation, when there is more than enough evil in this realm to account for what goes on. What we may wish to paint as supernatural or 'beyond', is often as simple as ordinary people ground down by drudgery, or who are just nasty people who don't like their families very much and discover after losing a job or due to some other change being forced to spend time with them, that they would rather they weren't alive any more.
A splendid commentary on the movie! I can unsee the scenes from the movie when listening to Concerto for Orchestra by Bela Bartok played throughout the movie. In college, I watched this with my friends from various countries who didn't get to go home during the Spring break.
When the movie was over, walking back to my dorm room through empty hallways was rather unnerving!
Keep up the good work J!
Omg hey!! Thanks :) what an amazing film - ages like a fine wine! Glad to see your name here !
I believe it's the Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta.
It's not concerto for orchestra, it's music for strings, percussion and celesta
"he wished to create a horror movie that would haunt audiences for years" he succeeded, but I don't think he expected the horror of what he did to shelly duval to be part of the shit haunting people. I really enjoy this movie, and yet I can't watch a single frame of it without thinking about what must have been going on behind the scenes.
She has personally addressed this on. An interview, she is happy with how things happened, so your mind can be put at ease, search on youtube to see for yourself
@@VeNoMziV i dont know man, have you seen her on doctor phil?
@@SuperAlfern i have not
@@VeNoMziV ua-cam.com/video/kGAZgoiOsV8/v-deo.html
Dr. Phil is rotten for that. Shelly is proud of her life and has close friends that are there for her.
The shining is still the best horror film in my opinion. Kubrick was one of kind.
It’s my all time favorite horror movie, hands down it is the creepiest and most one of a kind horror film we will ever get… I don’t get scared of horror movies, but The Shining gets me everytime.
@@-hayday-7350 its mu all time favorite movie
I want to say thank you because I feel like I've drifted through life far longer than I should have, but your channel and this video may have made me realize what I want to do with my life, and that's to get into film making. It's wild the way an analysis can make me appreciate a film more, or even appreciate one that I didn't enjoy at all. I've watched The Shining twice and I just never enjoyed it. Your video has made me want to watch it a third time, as I think I'd appreciate it more. When I had that thought is when I realized that your video was making me enjoy the film more not for the narrative it tells but for the artistry used to create the film, and this is a feeling I've had dozens of times with other films. I've had ideas float around my head, my own bouts of creativity that just get neatly filed away in a drawer in my mind, but I think I might want to actually try and do something with all of this.
So again, thank you. Great video. Great channel.
One day I wish to make a video on a film you made! Glad I found this comment.
@@SpikimaMovies I'd be happy, even if you ended up being its only fan :) Glad I found this channel.
I didn’t even notice the not blinking. GEEZ. I remember the first time I saw this movie and it felt dragged on for so long......it’s the Anonymous music in a scene where nothing is happening. I still get shivers.
When I read the book I was "what the fuck is this? This is not what happened in the movie".
So you got it backwards as the book came.first. it's very hard though to translate his works into movies -well though. Like fully and authentically
@@saadbunni I know the book came first but I saw the movie first and thought and think the movie is better than the book.
Is the book more horrifying than the movie?
@@scottiejerwinabejuela4973 I love the movie, but the book is terrifyng
@@diegovicentin damn, i gotta read this.
You really picked up on so much that I have seen a lot of other channels miss. This, albeit shorter than I’d hoped, is probably one of the best and most well done commentaries.
your voice made for an amazing trip hearing this also amazing analysis
I just watched all your detailed analysis videos, and I am stoked that I’m in before you blow up. Hands down my favourite movie theory channel. Please keep up the good work.
Happy to hear you liked em! ;) thanks for that and lets BLOW UP !
Kubrick is a genius of details. And the actors are just brilliant.
I just noticed that Danny's tricycle sounds like flies buzzing.
This was good!
This is one of the most fascinating explorations of The Shining. You did an amazing job, Spikima.
I never noticed the impossible structure of the hotel but it’s so fitting for the story. The devil really is in the details huh
This movie has haunted me for 4 decades now. While I find The Exorcist really spooky, and modern classics like Hereditary eerily off-putting, there's just something about The Shining that scares me on a fundamentally deep level - to my core.
After watching your videos, I feel more smarter. Like, the most smartest. Seriously though, excellent work. The Shining is the only movie that makes me more anxious with every single scene. You put into words what I could feel but couldn't articulate.
Wow, I never thought about it that way, but yes - there's definitely a range of movies (and books, paintings and music too, to be fair) that continues to be a part of your headspace for the rest of your life.
They're de facto life changing! 👌
I watch this movie every October.
Me too!!
I still find it crazy how essentially you have the same story but with a whole different feeling and purpose. The book felt like it had a completely different direction and end goals in the movie which is kind of cool when you think about it
This is my all time favorite movie EVER . And I love Kubrics films
I've watched all the Shining analysis videos. This is the best, most comprehensive and concise. Good work.
Fascinating comments and observations here. "The Shining" lends itself to so much discussion and analysis. I saw the movie at a second-run theater in maybe late '81 and I was around 19 years of age. I'm surprised now these many years later at how much I never picked up on, never noticed. If I were to see "The Shining" for the first time at the age I am now I think I would be a more observant viewer. At least I hope so!
Let's clear one detail up. It wasn't Kings novel or his writing Kubrick found weak, if that was his opinion he would have closed the book and thrown it against the wall like he had done with every other book before he had came to Kings novel. It was Kings screenplay Kubrick found weak. Kubrick had worked with professional screenwriters his entire career, and King wasn't a screenwriter.
The enigma of Danny's attraction to the door of room 237 relies on the uncanniness of this object of desire. Why should he be pulled to the door? The shining attracts and makes us curious. The shining is the movies screen itself; we cannot look away.
the line "things unique to reading a book" made me think of house of leaves
Jimmy-I adore House Of Leaves. I read it a couple of years back & the idea of that house in the book, as well as Johnny Truants part of the story, still haunts me. It felt like i was reading a gradual descent into madness.
The twins traumatized me as a kid and I still dread the scene they’re in. I saw a video talking about symmetry in horror and used the twins and the tall man in It Follows as examples and I WISH I knew where that video was!!!
i've seen sososososososo many vids about this movie one would think i've heard everything worthwhile and yet. this. you pointed out so much cool stuff i had dismissed as either overthinking from viewers or technicalities of the film-making process that have changed over time and genre, yours was one of the best compilation of proof that kubrik thought of every single detail and it each mattered, stuff i wouldve never got to by myself nor have i seen as precisely outlined and appreciated as you portrayed it
Great commentary but can you review the emoji movie?
Hands down best video on the shining. Very concise
my boyfriend worked on the rebuild of the hotel set for Doctor Sleep!!
Yooo, that’s awesome! I have an appreciation for the shining because as a child I was horrified from scary movies, but I could watch this one in its entirety and actually enjoy it
Can he explain why the little stairs that are just inside the Torrance’s apartment are missing in Doctor Sleep? 😅
@@sureyeahwhynotamiright8226 he said it wasn’t for any reason, just a continuity error lol
Did he say anything strange or creepy happened on set ? They did an amazing job on doctor sleep he should be proud!
@@Smarts2892 he said thank you! also no, according to him everything was fine. it was filmed at a sound stage in Atlanta GA.
Nothing else changed the way I watched The Shining before this video and now it's impossible for me not to notice the music and sound cues you mentioned 🙏🏼
the stair scene where she finds what jack's been writing. holy shit that scene haunts me
You deserve a hell of a lot more views than you get....excellent work.
This movie is just plain unnerving. That's before you know the hotel is actually alive that is.
For anyone wanting to know the piece that Kubrick uses for most of the film, it's Bartok's Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta. Bartok is generally absolutely amazing at making unique, weird and terrifying music.
Best movie of all times
The Shining's core element :- uncertainty.
this helped me understand why I love this movie so much. Bless
gotta love your analysis/documentary
Anytime Jack experiences a " ghost ", Grady, Lioyd, the woman in Room 237, mirrors are present. They are a " reflection " of Jack's fears and demons.
Scariest most disturbing movie of all time… it knows what you fear even if you don’t….
한국분이신것 같은데 유창한 영어실력에 깔끔한 편집과 알찬 컨텐츠까지 갖췄네요. 영상 중간중간에 일시정지하고 핵심 키워드를 영상 가운데 삽입하는 편집이 인상적이었습니다. 덕분에 강조하고자 하는 내용에 집중할 수 있었어요. 더 유명해지기 전에 미리 구독하고 갑니다~ 흥하세요!
감사합니다~ 저는 그렇다고 치고.. 한국분이신가요???!
네 아임 코리안ㅎㅎ 개인적으로 영화 리뷰/해석 유튜브 중에 제일 깔끔하고 세련된 영상과 편집이지 않나 싶네요. 앞으로도 좋은 영상 많이 제작해주세요~ 응원합니다!
@New Kid I as well
Your videos are amazing, make more
The nodding thing is a known problem with extras has nothing to do with the film
Breakdown Eyes Wide Shut please 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I'm not sure what Kubrick did with that film but it genuinely leaves me bone chilled every time
I really got a whole new interpretation of this movie from this.
Yes, no clean cuts in this movie. Everything is "left up in the air."
Dreams are like this!
I think that this is the most "dream-like" movie ever made.
Jack Nicholson is the most "un-dreamlike" actor in Hollywood, so to be stuck in this "dream-like" movie gives a weird effect.
This movie is filled with "silent-invisible danger" and until the slashing with the axe at the end: everything is mood.
This is the only violence shown in the movie other than Jack getting smacked on the head by Wendy.
Intelligent horror. The "entities aren't chasing you, tryin to get you. Like you say, they're just THERE. Which is more terrifying than being chased. If something's chasing you, you have a natural reaction to run. But if it's just there........what do you do?!?! Stephen King is a goo writer, but his writing takes a lot of adaptation to make for a great film. Kubrick did him a favor. I think he finally admits to that after admitting to hating'The Shining' early on.
That was fantastic
Talking about hiding in plain sight, that elevator scene...
When I was about four years old, I came out into the living room and my parents were watching this movie. A young woman got out of the bathtub and walked toward man. I was creeped out immediately because the woman's body had this blurred glow. I didn't realize that you can't show naked people on tv, I just thought it made her look like a ghost. Then she started kissing him, and you know the rest. Yeah that gave me nightmares for years. When I watched the shining years later and that scene took place, I literally couldn't move from my seat. I was petrified because I was seeing that face for the first time in almost a decade.
There was so much about that scene that filled me with a terror I couldn't describe, and I never wanted to watch horror movies. I didn't know that they were stupid entertaining movies that you watch for enjoyment, I thought horror movies were designed to fill you with that nightmarish, abstract dread. She just walks towards him and laughs, and the camera keeps cutting back to her in the bath. She never catches up to Jack, and my imagination ran wild with what she would do to him if she reached him. There's a shot of Danny with really wide eyes, it cuts away, and when it cuts back he's silently screaming. It was just pure nightmare fuel, and my mom jokingly told me "that's what will happen to you if you stay in the bathtub for too long," but that made me afraid of being in the bathroom. One of my favorite movies
와 너무 재밌게 봤습니다...! 내용도 편집도 훌륭하네요..!
즐겁게 봐주셔서 감사합니다 :) !
This is absolutely brilliant!
Mirrors as insanity..wow
I love this channel so much
nightmare on screen
Also I feel like with Danny's scene opening to his dad's room and the scene before where he is unable to open room 237, you know something bad is in room 237 but he has no access to it, and then you see him opening the door to his room in the same pace he was going to open the room 237, but this time the door actually opens. Is the suggestion that was is inside room 237 is the same in Jack's room, a sense of evil.
Wish you had mentioned the bear suit guy because that fucked with me
Brilliant essay mate
Brilliant analysis
Brilliant analysis!!!!
That feeling of the plot not ending and being stuck in the middle of it all is very intentional.
This movie is about a story of violence, of killing your own kind, that always repeats. Micro (family) and macro (native americans being killed). It is emphasized that it has always been this way and that it has to stay this way. Even Jack is played by Jack because it always happens in film as it does in reality.
People ought to analyze the creepy ads UA-cam puts on and what THEY are doing to our minds.
this channel needs more cinephile
Very strange that I'm just now realizing that though I love The Shining, I didn't find it particularly scary as a kid. That's ridiculous to me.
would be great if you do one on doctor sleep, how it's similar yet different when it comes to the scarring stuff
부재의 사용: 여러 호러 영화와 다르게 실체하지 않는 존재를 강조하기 위하여 특정한 대상을 보여주지 않음
음악과 장면의 부조화: 음악이 빠르게 혹은 느리게 들어가거나 분위기가 고조되지 않는 상황에서 음악은 절정으로 치닫는 등의 부조화를 통해 관객으로 하여금 불안감을 증식시킴
눈앞의 숨어있는 느낌: 호텔의 비현실적 구조나 연기 디렉팅을 통해 관객이 무의식적으로 공포를 느끼게 함
As a horror filmmaker and surreal filmmaker, I personally think that today's horror director's have no clue how to do horror. James Wan does.
He’s okayyyy
Robert Eggers and Ari Aster are way closer to Kubrick in quality than James Wan. Wan’s work is certainly effective but also highly “popular” and commercialized, and lacking that ambiguous surreal element.
And so it always goes like this ,even throughout history, everything sucks today and everything was so great in the past
But that aside, the Shining is an awesome movie
이분 영상 너무 좋다..와우
이번주엔 패이트론 후원페이지 컨텐츠엄뎃과 함께 자막다는거에 집중할 예정이랍니다! 다른 영상들도 기대해주세요~~ :) 감사합니당
ive only seen the stephen king version
#SpikimaMovies, you need to make a second part of this video as analysis of the rest of the story of The Shining.
Would love to hear your take on the vvitch
Jack Daniel is dead, Wendy`s mind is the one that is portrayed, the film starts right at the end just by following its own fules of opposites, inversions, an mirrorings. in a way, almost all theorys can be right and should be, because the logic of this film its sustain in a very concrete concepts of psycoanálisis: mostly 1. the uncanny almost as a panflet of rules or dogmas like, de "doubles" the weirdness of the past events, repetition, etc. present i´ll say pretty much every second of the film, 2. various arquetypes mostly the mother, the self, the shadow, etc 3. alegory of the collective unonsciosnes/imagery as the hotel, an the maze as the mind, thats why the last one exist inside the other but significantly smaller compared to the vastnes of the historical and collective space, and the other only appears when a character is there. ( sorry my mother lenguage is spanish) 4. Synchronicity, a very impressive built and collection of referrences, imagery, symbols, intertexts, coincidences and pareidolias all over the place 5.jung´s red book`s approach to the "pleroma" or sense-nonsense-totality conflict.
Wow
This is such a great movie, I know Stephen King didn't like it, but the book is very big and Kubrick did an excellent adaptation, sorry Stephen, but as someone said, "being a good writer doesn't mean you can be a good script writer, it's just not the same" (they were referring to Cormack McCarthy)
wow. Now i cant NOT notice the man at the bar nodding his head. on purpose?!?!? Ughhh boyy.
What's the background music from 0:13 ? it's very compelling
Not sure if this is what you mean or not, but it’s the music in the movie
@@sepultura7771 I don't think so, I went through the whole OST on yt and it didn't show up anywhere ; they used mostly orchestra music
For some reason the music in this movie is hard to find on a soundtrack or album, but that music is definitely in the movie
this is some artful bs
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It’s a good movie but not scary at all lol, and mostly it’s good cause I enjoy terrific Jack Nicholson’s performance. It’s overrated
It Dosent necessarily have to be scary. Theirs other emotions a horror movie can make you feel
Damn dude that was dumb!
🌹💕💕💕💕💕
One of the best examples of why King sucks.
Thank God we had Kubrick to make this film, with King's shoddy writing relegated to the awful TV miniseries.
Sometimes you're too famous to the point that even if you create a piece that is unworthy of the title "Horror film" .. audience and critics alike have this preconceived biased idea that is just because it's a Kubrick's film so it must be of good quality above the typical standards.. I always thought that more than 90% of what scares people in horror movies are the music and sound effects..and that's exactly what happened here in the shining.
It's simply a drama film infused with irritating ambiguous music that stimulate unearthy fearful feeling that linger with the viewer through the entire film... probably it was scary back in 1980 but not these days... I see some shit far more frightening for breakfast. Plus ..the idea of the shining is like a gum that has been chewed on for so long far from being original.
Again as spikima said: the more you expose yourself to horror films the less you get affected by it. Maybe that's the case here
Happy watching everybody ;)
That's why the longer cut with all the explanations suck ass. Same with Ronnie darko. The longer dc cut is not always better
I read the book and the movie was/is better.
When i watched the shining the first time, it felt like being dragged on a car ride with your arguing parents. Mainly anxiety the first half, the intial shock of the fighting, and the annoyance of the situation around you after it kicks off. Maybe if he hadnt focused on so much on helicopter shots and aesthetic, he could make a film known for being good; rather than a mediocre movie being over hyped with shitty unlikable characters to be jerked onto for decades. Movies are supposed to improve what the book couldn't, not stomp on the story while shoveling pretty landscapes into the audiences mouth. For how popular remakes are in horror, I'm pretty shocked no ones made one for the shining yet.
there is a shining remake that king worked on himself. it’s shit
@@claytonmefford4949 *overrated
i hate this movie and the actors beginners They make weird moves on their face i dont want see them
If you can understand French I reccomend the 2 hours analysis on PADAWAMHD channel on youtube where they actually explain everything about the movie.
Not like this 12 minutes shallow video where none of the interesting point are brought up. Disappointing.