Both systems actually have the same amount of travel. But a conventional system will not reach a full compression or expansion unless under the absolute heaviest loads. the beauty of this system is it can react to each independent situation, and fully compress or decompress when needed.
It uses electromagnetic rams..like a speaker..to actively compensate for bumps and dips and G-forces. Its better then most active suspension systems because the response time is a million times faster with electromagnetic over hydrolics
i sure hope this can spread around to all car makers....its the perfect suspension...soaks up all bumps,no body roll in turns and your car can bunny hop!..perfection!
They also show a Porsche which would have ultra-rigid suspension as it jerks around. I have an M3 and can relate to that. My car doesn't lean around curves like the Lexus but bumpy roads you feel everything. I'd love this suspension system.
yes it's real, and a few years old, the suspension is driven by active motors instead of a passive spring/damping system. But that last clip they must have set the motors to some predetermined acceleration and timing. Practically though for hard cornering the driver would feel greater centripital force than conventional suspension, and it would probably be heavy and expensive. It would be cool to see it utilized in some racing sports though
@@doctorpanigrahi9975 would be shit in racing. you're removing an entire data point of handling. do sports cars have pillow suspension? no. also notice the ride height on that thing
Citroen does very similar suspension. may be it's not so active and fast as Bose, but at least you can buy it and enjoy it unlike Bose super suspension which you just can see in the video and can't touch.
Duuuude, Bose suspension is awesome! It can be adjusted to handle almost any road and it can ollie(skateboard term for jumping)!! That's EXCELLENT!!!!!LOL!
They have matched the Hydractive suspension of Citroen which can just do the same. Have a try of the Xantia, XM, C5 or C6. They should compare themselves with Citroen.
It's not in regular cars yet. It's not done. In those test shots, they had shiny strips on the ground for the sensors to pick up. They are still working on sensors that will actually "see" the bumps and stuff and have it work like that. And yeah, it will only be in high end cars when they do finish it.
i often dreamed about this as a child. idk if its the same thing, but i imagined some sort of sensing device (camera or sensor) in front of the wheels detecting obstructions, and then moving the suspension like hydraulics in accordance with speed and time to precompress the suspension so it rolls smoothly over the obstacle. something like this on an extreme off-road car.... drool
take a close look at the second test. look at the front axel. you can see that the suspension is moving properly. same way as the other suspensions. differnce here being the car body is stable unlike the other cars. perfectly safe. the suspension is doing its job plus more
Haha. I love their commentary too. Roughly: "We're saving the best for last. The car jumps over the obstacle! We hope that just like us, you were impressed by what you just saw."
It's true that there is no detailed technical data available. However, per the Bose website the regenerative power amplifiers used allow power flow in/out (similar to regenerative braking on a gas/elec hybrid), so the whole system uses about 1/3 the power of a typical vehicle air conditioner.
C'est seulement un prototype, installer sur une ou deux Lexus qui appartiennent a Bose pour faire des tests. S'ils le mettent sur des voitures de producton, ca va etre sur des haut-de-gamme seulement. Cool suspension, it could solve the problems of ordinary suspension by programming it to behave like it should for optimum performance. For example, it could absorb bumps, reducing stress on the car body, while providing optimum dynamic weight shifting and tilt control in corners. Pretty Awesome!
I have like 20 cars* in certain garages with this type of suspension. From experience, I must say that it is superb and I absolutely recommend it. *in gta
@smithraymond09029 No because this one has magnetic fluid inside them that gets firmer or more relaxed depending on how much current is flowing in it from how it adapts to the road.
The only difference is,is that the Bose suspension is doing what the standard dudpension SHOULD be doing,but a manufacturer cannot afford to fit a system like that to a production car,so they fit the best at an economical rate,a setup thats good enough for the cars type and performance.
@mi3pwns it is where you can select the viscosity of your ride to allow it to work with the roads bump it uses magnetic force bose is automaticly formed to all road conditions magnetic ride contrl you select the dampering there close but not the same
They are NOW expensive, but, when they make it better, and when they start to product it right way, its not much more expensive that normal systems. In someday, this kind of systems will be normal in every cars.
Well, the senros can be example in bumper, front side of the tire, some kind of system wich sees depth of ground under the bumper. From that information computer can can calculate, how much it will let move the tire in diferent ways. It can also use information of other wheels position to ground.
I this one is better than the latest s class airmatic suspension sytem + magic body control system.. which is already very good... but this one superb.... I would be happy to see the comparation side by side (bose suspenstion vs latest s class airmatic + magic body control)
This suspension is a great jump forward for 3rd country world, where roads are "offroad". Visit Ukraine for Euro 2012 and you will thumb up for this suspension!
suspensions are part of a holistic safety system in cars. they are meant to protect the car while at the same time maintaining contact with the road and sometimes that requires a sacrifice in comfort. this type of suspension probably offers the top of the line in comfort but not safety or performance.
That's really cool. I guess it must be really heavy or something, otherwise everyone would have it. I guess power consumption isn't that big a problem since it can regenerate as much as it loses, right? Maybe with electric cars or KERS system this could be an everyday thing.
@thetrolle haha agreed. Not sure how that would work. Would think the police would put a stop to this or make it so that the suspension will not be able to jump over the spikes.
And how its done ? When the solenoids should react ? Actually, it seems, a computer using sensors trying to adjust the car to be horizontal - idea just perfect, the same as implementation, its amazing !
ua-cam.com/video/3KPYIaks1UY/v-deo.html or in even shorter Electromagnets that concieve power from a chip that calculates in a split second how much the magnets need to recieve to counter the bounce forces, Electromagnets under electricity are more powerful as em. without. Ergo the magnets are likely all the time powered BUT receive extra juice to counter forces.
yeah but your sensor can't see in the future... when your wheel start moving up, the suspension don't know if this is a big long or small short bump, and the optimal reaction (like the damping) is different for this 2 types. But the system could have a "memory" of the last solicitation from the road, so when you arrive on a dirt path, it is first normal but then the computer learn the pattern of the road and your suspension could start getting better. Something like that ...
Its a series of electromagnetic rams. not unlike a speaker. the difference is the response time for electromagnetics is so much faster than hydrolics that it makes active suspension viable
Just wait. It's been in R&D for over 7 years. Instead of using standard "tunable" shocks and dampers with fluid and valve technology, this system uses 4 linear electric motors (1 per wheel) and ground sensors that "read" the road ahead. The motors have something like a 2 mill.sec. response time. It's getting polished up and now looking for potential buyers (i.e. Nissan, Toyota, Lotus...) We'll probably see it as an option choice on cars in a decade or less. Read the Car and Driver article.
i don't think this is hydraulic if that's what you implied for this thing here ... it's probably induction motor (pretty much the same thing as the Tesla's induction rotational engine ... )... that's what makes it so controllable ... wicked stuff... now i have to figure out something else to make :)
C'est merveilleux pour un prototype qui n'a jamais été mit en production sur une voiture de série..... Mais le secteur automobile est frileux comme toujours. La seule boite qui me semble suceptible d'innover reste Tesla. Après les autres suivront... Le problème pour eux c'est que cette techno économise les pneux et réduit la distance de freinage. C'est un peu comme le Telma (frein/ralentisseur magnétique sur les camions et les bus) il économise les freins et les plaquettes et aurait pu éviter les nombreux accidents de bus en montagne (freins qui lachent) mais on ne l'a jamais vu monté en série.
@Burkedaman wrong suspension, that's the hummer one. This one is basically an electromagnet rod inside a electromagnet cylinder and goes up and down depending on how much electricity it gets... from the computer that scans the incoming surface
They do, newer Cadillac, Lincolns, Ferrari and much more have them. Well not bose, but same concept suspension. It's usally meant for luxury vehicles because these suspension are good for smooth rides, they do not grip as well.
It is a pretty cool system, but the tests are somewhat biased. Take the speedbump test for example. The bump was just big enough that the bose car could drive over them without any apparent 'jump'. I'd be interested to know what happens when the bump is tall enough to cause the suspension to hit the top wall.
If we can populating his technology around the world before UK train collision before rubber outline (It can be spelled wrong. It is rubber thing around the train wheel) We just could save many lives after this tragedy.
Excellent for all those bumps and jumps but in cornering...wouldn't it put too much strain on the tires? and not to mention lessen if not eliminate proper weight transfer much needed in high speed manouvering?
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Wonderful technology I would love to have this on my ride.
Wonder if it could "Jump" a spike strip?
that would make police chases more interesting
looks like you wont notice when u run over someone with the bose suspension
it can be done by not run over someone
Just jump over em lol
😂😂💀😂😂
yup i definitely need it
It'll probably jump over them 😂
Both systems actually have the same amount of travel. But a conventional system will not reach a full compression or expansion unless under the absolute heaviest loads. the beauty of this system is it can react to each independent situation, and fully compress or decompress when needed.
I agree
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GTA 4 Physics VS GTA 5 Physics
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It uses electromagnetic rams..like a speaker..to actively compensate for bumps and dips and G-forces. Its better then most active suspension systems because the response time is a million times faster with electromagnetic over hydrolics
i sure hope this can spread around to all car makers....its the perfect suspension...soaks up all bumps,no body roll in turns and your car can bunny hop!..perfection!
takumi and his cup of water got nothing on that bunnyhop
They also show a Porsche which would have ultra-rigid suspension as it jerks around. I have an M3 and can relate to that. My car doesn't lean around curves like the Lexus but bumpy roads you feel everything. I'd love this suspension system.
you mean i can do bunny hops if i get some bose suspension?????
Yep :D
Let's suggest this to Fox or Rock Shox!
yes it's real, and a few years old, the suspension is driven by active motors instead of a passive spring/damping system. But that last clip they must have set the motors to some predetermined acceleration and timing. Practically though for hard cornering the driver would feel greater centripital force than conventional suspension, and it would probably be heavy and expensive. It would be cool to see it utilized in some racing sports though
Indeed. !
@@doctorpanigrahi9975 would be shit in racing. you're removing an entire data point of handling. do sports cars have pillow suspension? no. also notice the ride height on that thing
Thanks for putting these up in one video - such a cool demo!
Thats an awsome piece of engineering !!!! hats off to BOSE......
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Citroen does very similar suspension. may be it's not so active and fast as Bose, but at least you can buy it and enjoy it unlike Bose super suspension which you just can see in the video and can't touch.
+Alex Fedoseyev Well it appears Citroen will be fitting it to "ALL" there cars from 2017..
+Ian Nixon citroen are still shit tbh
Duuuude, Bose suspension is awesome! It can be adjusted to handle almost any road and it can ollie(skateboard term for jumping)!! That's EXCELLENT!!!!!LOL!
While conventional suspension rocks up and down, Bose suspension retains the same ride height whatever the conditions.
BOSE.... No Highs, No Lows
They have matched the Hydractive suspension of Citroen which can just do the same.
Have a try of the Xantia, XM, C5 or C6.
They should compare themselves with Citroen.
No, it simply adapts the ride height at superfast speeds to keep the body of the car as motionless as possible.
Whoa. That’s amazing.
Love seeing all these 15 y/o comments too, Cheers to all !
It's not in regular cars yet. It's not done. In those test shots, they had shiny strips on the ground for the sensors to pick up. They are still working on sensors that will actually "see" the bumps and stuff and have it work like that.
And yeah, it will only be in high end cars when they do finish it.
So you're telling me the same company that made my computer speakers is now making suspensions for automobiles? Wicked!
i often dreamed about this as a child. idk if its the same thing, but i imagined some sort of sensing device (camera or sensor) in front of the wheels detecting obstructions, and then moving the suspension like hydraulics in accordance with speed and time to precompress the suspension so it rolls smoothly over the obstacle. something like this on an extreme off-road car.... drool
So thats how the taxis in Crazy Taxi jump..
The speed bump part was cool. That car barely moved
take a close look at the second test. look at the front axel. you can see that the suspension is moving properly. same way as the other suspensions. differnce here being the car body is stable unlike the other cars. perfectly safe. the suspension is doing its job plus more
Haha. I love their commentary too. Roughly: "We're saving the best for last. The car jumps over the obstacle! We hope that just like us, you were impressed by what you just saw."
It's seriously impressive! I wonder what similar technologies we have now
It's true that there is no detailed technical data available. However, per the Bose website the regenerative power amplifiers used allow power flow in/out (similar to regenerative braking on a gas/elec hybrid), so the whole system uses about 1/3 the power of a typical vehicle air conditioner.
C'est seulement un prototype, installer sur une ou deux Lexus qui appartiennent a Bose pour faire des tests. S'ils le mettent sur des voitures de producton, ca va etre sur des haut-de-gamme seulement.
Cool suspension, it could solve the problems of ordinary suspension by programming it to behave like it should for optimum performance. For example, it could absorb bumps, reducing stress on the car body, while providing optimum dynamic weight shifting and tilt control in corners. Pretty Awesome!
I have like 20 cars* in certain garages with this type of suspension. From experience, I must say that it is superb and I absolutely recommend it.
*in gta
In this case, "No highs, no lows, must be Bose" is actually a good thing.
@smithraymond09029 No because this one has magnetic fluid inside them that gets firmer or more relaxed depending on how much current is flowing in it from how it adapts to the road.
The only difference is,is that the Bose suspension is doing what the standard dudpension SHOULD be doing,but a manufacturer cannot afford to fit a system like that to a production car,so they fit the best at an economical rate,a setup thats good enough for the cars type and performance.
The car, it just glides! wow.. this thing is impressive.
@mi3pwns it is where you can select the viscosity of your ride to allow it to work with the roads bump it uses magnetic force bose is automaticly formed to all road conditions magnetic ride contrl you select the dampering there close but not the same
carmighty sent me here, I AM BLOWN AWAY
I saw the complete video at school...and bose it's the same compagny for the suspension and the stereo:O!!!
Nieprawdopodobne. Mega zawieszenie
They are NOW expensive, but, when they make it better, and when they start to product it right way, its not much more expensive that normal systems. In someday, this kind of systems will be normal in every cars.
Well, the senros can be example in bumper, front side of the tire, some kind of system wich sees depth of ground under the bumper. From that information computer can can calculate, how much it will let move the tire in diferent ways. It can also use information of other wheels position to ground.
Doing bunny hops with the car?
Awesome!!!
0:44 yep thats me when i pull into my girlfriends street!
I this one is better than the latest s class airmatic suspension sytem + magic body control system.. which is already very good... but this one superb.... I would be happy to see the comparation side by side (bose suspenstion vs latest s class airmatic + magic body control)
that's pretty cool... no more worrying about spilled drinks!
i was like 'well thats neat' and then i got to the end. holy shit.
KITT, Turbo Boost.
This suspension is a great jump forward for 3rd country world, where roads are "offroad". Visit Ukraine for Euro 2012 and you will thumb up for this suspension!
Dude, Did that car just do a bunny hop. whoa!
Looks like a Pretty Cool Idea.....and its such a Great one too....
now if only Bose could make Speakers worth their premium Price.....
suspensions are part of a holistic safety system in cars. they are meant to protect the car while at the same time maintaining contact with the road and sometimes that requires a sacrifice in comfort. this type of suspension probably offers the top of the line in comfort but not safety or performance.
That's really cool. I guess it must be really heavy or something, otherwise everyone would have it.
I guess power consumption isn't that big a problem since it can regenerate as much as it loses, right? Maybe with electric cars or KERS system this could be an everyday thing.
speed bumps : hold my beer!
HOLY SHIT, that part at the end was sweeet
@thetrolle haha agreed. Not sure how that would work. Would think the police would put a stop to this or make it so that the suspension will not be able to jump over the spikes.
And how its done ? When the solenoids should react ?
Actually, it seems, a computer using sensors trying to adjust the car to be horizontal - idea just perfect, the same as implementation, its amazing !
ua-cam.com/video/3KPYIaks1UY/v-deo.html
or in even shorter Electromagnets that concieve power from a chip that calculates in a split second how much the magnets need to recieve to counter the bounce forces, Electromagnets under electricity are more powerful as em. without. Ergo the magnets are likely all the time powered BUT receive extra juice to counter forces.
I think so too. I guess BOSE scaled up their speaker technology.
Just what we need, something to make us even more unaware of what is going on around us.
yeah but your sensor can't see in the future... when your wheel start moving up, the suspension don't know if this is a big long or small short bump, and the optimal reaction (like the damping) is different for this 2 types.
But the system could have a "memory" of the last solicitation from the road, so when you arrive on a dirt path, it is first normal but then the computer learn the pattern of the road and your suspension could start getting better. Something like that ...
Wow 100 million in research! nice hope its on some cars this decade!
So it's a got a mini Turbo Boost KITT button? Sweet.
that suspension system would
a) be thousands and thousands of dollars
b) be sUpEr expensive to fix
BUT
ITS AMAZING
Its a series of electromagnetic rams. not unlike a speaker. the difference is the response time for electromagnetics is so much faster than hydrolics that it makes active suspension viable
i love it at the speedbumps! Like if they were never there.
The speed bump is just crazy!
Audi A5 soon will be the first series car equipped with this kind of suspension.
Just wait. It's been in R&D for over 7 years. Instead of using standard "tunable" shocks and dampers with fluid and valve technology, this system uses 4 linear electric motors (1 per wheel) and ground sensors that "read" the road ahead. The motors have something like a 2 mill.sec. response time. It's getting polished up and now looking for potential buyers (i.e. Nissan, Toyota, Lotus...) We'll probably see it as an option choice on cars in a decade or less. Read the Car and Driver article.
wow amazing. this is truly some peice of great technology.
i don't think this is hydraulic if that's what you implied for this thing here ... it's probably induction motor (pretty much the same thing as the Tesla's induction rotational engine ... )... that's what makes it so controllable ...
wicked stuff... now i have to figure out something else to make :)
This is some pretty cool technology!
i own an ls400 and want more than anythign to be able to put this in to deal with these awful New York roads.
So this is where KITT gets his jumpers from!
C'est merveilleux pour un prototype qui n'a jamais été mit en production sur une voiture de série..... Mais le secteur automobile est frileux comme toujours. La seule boite qui me semble suceptible d'innover reste Tesla. Après les autres suivront... Le problème pour eux c'est que cette techno économise les pneux et réduit la distance de freinage. C'est un peu comme le Telma (frein/ralentisseur magnétique sur les camions et les bus) il économise les freins et les plaquettes et aurait pu éviter les nombreux accidents de bus en montagne (freins qui lachent) mais on ne l'a jamais vu monté en série.
+Jonathan Mégevand gibberish
i think mercedes has had this system for years, but if this is an aftermarket part it's pretty nice.
Sensors and onboard computers are fully capable of smart suspensions that wouldn't require seperate programming.
That was nothing compared to the adventures of Michael Knight and his incredible super-car K.I.T.T.
that's a good way to get away from the cops when they lay down spike-strips ;)) hehe
NICE!
@Burkedaman wrong suspension, that's the hummer one. This one is basically an electromagnet rod inside a electromagnet cylinder and goes up and down depending on how much electricity it gets... from the computer that scans the incoming surface
They do, newer Cadillac, Lincolns, Ferrari and much more have them.
Well not bose, but same concept suspension.
It's usally meant for luxury vehicles because these suspension are good for smooth rides, they do not grip as well.
sure it will! they just have to make the speed bumps bigger
The difference is that you can buy this one in the SkyMall catalog located in the seat pocket in front of you.
It is a pretty cool system, but the tests are somewhat biased. Take the speedbump test for example. The bump was just big enough that the bose car could drive over them without any apparent 'jump'. I'd be interested to know what happens when the bump is tall enough to cause the suspension to hit the top wall.
random guy with a Miata: TAKE MY MONEY!.
I'd like to see Top Gear review that!
If we can populating his technology around the world before UK train collision before rubber outline (It can be spelled wrong. It is rubber thing around the train wheel) We just could save many lives after this tragedy.
yea this ia a true suspension made for Indian roads
you are right... YAMAHA started constructing musical instruments.. actualy if you look at their logo ist's made os three diapasons even nowadays..
Electromagnetic motors and power amplifiers work in tandem at each wheel, controlled by a sophisticated set of control algorithms.
@matthewdaniel1000 the electromagnetic motor in their suspension pushes it off the ground.
oh and the sound system is pretty good too
haha, the Bose suspension drives just like their speakers.
No highs, no lows, must be Bose :)
sooo, at the end it basically demonstrated that you can jump tire spikes? Nice.
i love how they compare it to a porsche like its even in the same ball park.
yea i wud have never guessed a stereo company would invest in making a suspension for a car hahah
Your suspension: 🫨
Bose suspension: 🗿
perfect for high speed filming
I think high end cars like Cadillac and others have similar systems. I know Cadillac has had CVRSS and now Magnetic ride control for quite some time.
Amazing n i will try to source and use this in my car.
i need these for the speed bumps
1:06 damn looks like 4x4 with that fender gap!
Excellent for all those bumps and jumps but in cornering...wouldn't it put too much strain on the tires? and not to mention lessen if not eliminate proper weight transfer much needed in high speed manouvering?