good video, great practical advice. as an aside... I always find it funny that people call these things "hot water heaters" and not just water heater.... The hot and heater are kinda redundant. Its like calling an oven burner a hot oven burner or an air conditioner a cold air conditioner.
Actually there was " something " there at the bottom element when the power was on and you checked for voltage. There was 115 volts there but you measured across the terminals and they have no ground (naturally). If you would've measured from the unswitchwd leg to ground you would've read 115. You do not need a different meter to check for a grounded element. Simply remove both wires and check each screw terminal to ground on the bare tank. Continuity there means it's grounded.
Is that little megger a pretty good brand? Here at the shipyard we use bigger ones, but for doing what you do, has that been a good, light little tool?
It looked like you didn't put teflon tape on the element threads. I know the rubber gasket should seal good enough but I think I would wrap a little teflon tape on for cheap insurance against any possible leaks. Do you ever change anode rods? Just wondering. Good job Steve.
Steven, Great video, I really like the tags you use, I might have to look in to those myself. I like listening to you, your accent is exactly the way my dad talked, he was from Peabody MA. He just passed away recently so I enjoy hearing that accent! Keep up the great work! PJ
Never put a valve on hot side, some guy leaves power on but closes both valves which eliminates room for thermal expansion and ruins t&p valve! Great vid! Even 2yrs later
Does it matter which wire you screw in to, or is this one of those screw both ends in to complete the circuit deal despite the orientation of the heating element?
I do not think they wrote upside down, it looks like the panel cover might have been mounted the other way and then they rotated it to have it open the other way!
pop stream i never put a shut off on hot side because then you shut the cold off it shuts the hot off ...but it will not hurt to do it just a waist of money and its not needed
steven lavimoniere It's ILLEGALto put a valve on the hot side. Yes, there is a t&p blowoff, but what happens when a home owner plugs or caps it, when it starts to drip? You must have safety redundancies. You have a very powerful bomb that could easily kill. IT IS NOT AN OPTION.
Hey Steven!! Love the part ( Don't get stuck on stupid) ROL.. Can tell you've been around doing this for a long time!!! It's amazing how many people will use the blow off valve for water delivery good lord!!! Don't open that sucker EVER like Steven say's your just asking for it homeowners!!!!!! :)
i would have to test things with my electric meter to find the problem ..it might be the upper control what is it doing ????? give me more info on what is happening
sounds like it could be the upper control check it with a electric meter power coming in ???is the power going to the elements????? the top one will heat up then the lower one kicks in after the top one is satisfied ,you have to test to find the problem .are both elements good????????
Yes it was filled up yesterday and it was working good this morning but the water was really hot cause I moved the temp to high since it's my first electric water heater , I moved it back down to 135 this morning and I got cold water! It's been more than a hour and it's still cold
I just realized that your area code is the same as my auntie! I know where your at now! I go there every summer before we go to the cape (I don't go to p-town) just to clear that up! I don't bat that way! Lol! You rock! PJ
Help Me Understand, why every person who shows how to troubleshoot these water heater; thinks you have a meter reader. I'm a Homeowner, not a Plumber; how do I do this without Meters?
4katchupwoman if you do not have the proper tools and meters to test for the problem .maybe you need to call someone that has them .. pick your battles buy your comment you should not be touching any thing that can shock you and probley kill you .
steven lavimoniere Steve, I just want to try an determine, why I do not have Hot Water. I don't want to pay someone $300.00, to replace a simple element.
4katchupwoman well get a electrical tester a cheap one will do just fine ,shut power off and disconnect one wire do a ohms test on the element it its ol or open line its the element then you need a special big wrench to remove it once the tank is drained make sure the power is off .
I have a whirlpool hot water heater , draining it is ridiculous , the drain hole in the drain pipe is so small it clogs easily , and the drain spigot is situated in a stupid angle so that the pan edge interferes with trying to attache a hose ...... we can send a man to the moon , but ...........
steven lavimoniere yes it does , and then it clogs up again in no time ..... I have drained it already , just commenting on how crappy the design is on these things ....... manufacturers should figure the drain space needs to be bigger and the drain cock needs to be angled better for attaching a hose , since most likely there is going to be a metal pan to consider RIGHT IN THE WAY if the drain cock is angled the wrong way (which mine was) ...... I thought to twist it a bit counterclockwise , but didn't want to risk a leak , so I "rigged it" ...... job is done now ...... had to replace elements and flushed it out a bit ....... could have been twice as easy with better design from those knucklhead college kids in engineering departments who have never drained one of these things in real life
Bradford whites the anode rod is integrated with the Hot supply fitting outlet. Cold side is the (aquajet) that feeds all the way to the bottom and blows away sediment I believe. Pain in the ass to change out. Wish they had the anode seperate fitting on the top like other types. Easier to change.
I always do new thermostats too, if the customer agrees...an upsell, as they are paying mostly labor...can install as tank is filling...there any way...why not a complete refurb for a little extra...just sayin' (and no call back)
steven lavimoniere hey Steven i had a lower bad element, i change it but still my hot water don't last like before.i don't know if my lower thermostat is no good or do i have to push the rest button after everything don't? need your opinion. thx
good video, great practical advice.
as an aside... I always find it funny that people call these things "hot water heaters" and not just water heater.... The hot and heater are kinda redundant. Its like calling an oven burner a hot oven burner or an air conditioner a cold air conditioner.
When I was a kid we would say "croker sack bag" for a burlap bag. Sack + Bag.
so what is that all you can say who cares he calls it what he wants
Actually there was " something " there at the bottom element when the power was on and you checked for voltage. There was 115 volts there but you measured across the terminals and they have no ground (naturally). If you would've measured from the unswitchwd leg to ground you would've read 115.
You do not need a different meter to check for a grounded element. Simply remove both wires and check each screw terminal to ground on the bare tank. Continuity there means it's grounded.
" AN -OID " Rod ! Love the Accent Steve !
Is that little megger a pretty good brand? Here at the shipyard we use bigger ones, but for doing what you do, has that been a good, light little tool?
Great videos as always. I learned so much from this one video! Love Steve's videos because he's amazing!
Can you put pipe dope on the threads to the elements or is that bad ?
I was taught the top "breaker" only trips from over temp not current. Is a thermostat hanging up allowing excessive temp?
What size socket? Do you need to dope the threads on new elements
It looked like you didn't put teflon tape on the element threads. I know the rubber gasket should seal good enough but I think I would wrap a little teflon tape on for cheap insurance against any possible leaks. Do you ever change anode rods? Just wondering. Good job Steve.
No no no
Steven,
Great video, I really like the tags you use, I might have to look in to those myself. I like listening to you, your accent is exactly the way my dad talked, he was from Peabody MA. He just passed away recently so I enjoy hearing that accent!
Keep up the great work!
PJ
When you are testing the current you have to shut the power off?
yes power was off i was checking ohms,,,,,,,, if your checking voltage then you need the power on ,depends what test your preforming
Never put a valve on hot side, some guy leaves power on but closes both valves which eliminates room for thermal expansion and ruins t&p valve! Great vid! Even 2yrs later
+mueller204 i did not pipe it off
+steven lavimoniere , I meant to reply to a comment someone left you.
We don't have vacuum valves on water heaters in Arkansas
Does it matter which wire you screw in to, or is this one of those screw both ends in to complete the circuit deal despite the orientation of the heating element?
Penfold8 its 220 so it does not matter
steven lavimoniere Thank you for letting me know :-)
If it has water already do I have to still drain the air??
Can you open a tub hot water to relieve vacuum at tank?
Absolutely, I am thinking that was easier for him plus it is good for people to learn other solutions to problems!
I do not think they wrote upside down, it looks like the panel cover might have been mounted the other way and then they rotated it to have it open the other way!
get a body cam! Thanks for the video!
thanks p.j i have my tags custom paid from a printer to suit my needs ,sorry to hear about your day
I just installed a new electric water heater, I moved the thermostat setting. I have no hot water , how long does it take to Heath up to 135
+Alberto Gonzalez did you fill it up with water ,and bleed the air out before turning on electric??
Hey Steve
I was hopping to get your opinion on putting a ball valve on the hot side of a hot water heater or if you know a code that doesn't allow it
pop stream i never put a shut off on hot side because then you shut the cold off it shuts the hot off ...but it will not hurt to do it just a waist of money and its not needed
Thanks for the response
steven lavimoniere
It's ILLEGALto put a valve on the hot side. Yes, there is a t&p blowoff, but what happens when a home owner plugs or caps it, when it starts to drip? You must have safety redundancies. You have a very powerful bomb that could easily kill. IT IS NOT AN OPTION.
illegal in canada for sure. we cant put pvc on a water tank either.
I Learned The Hardway I change a supply line lesson learned
Hey Steven!! Love the part ( Don't get stuck on stupid) ROL.. Can tell you've been around doing this for a long time!!! It's amazing how many people will use the blow off valve for water delivery good lord!!! Don't open that sucker EVER like Steven say's your just asking for it homeowners!!!!!! :)
thanks for watching mega
Hi Steven I have replaced elements and it worked a couple of days what could be wrong I wonder?
i would have to test things with my electric meter to find the problem ..it might be the upper control what is it doing ????? give me more info on what is happening
The water will not get hot it worked a couple of days and then stopped heating the water everything else is ok just no hot water
sounds like it could be the upper control check it with a electric meter power coming in ???is the power going to the elements????? the top one will heat up then the lower one kicks in after the top one is satisfied ,you have to test to find the problem .are both elements good????????
Thank u steven checking that today
Anoide rod...funny. Anode rod as in anode and cathode. Loose won't trip the breaker, unless the wire manages to short against the other or ground.
What does that megameter read exactly
Yes it was filled up yesterday and it was working good this morning but the water was really hot cause I moved the temp to high since it's my first electric water heater , I moved it back down to 135 this morning and I got cold water! It's been more than a hour and it's still cold
+Alberto Gonzalez well you need to test it with a electric meter to see whats going on . or call in a pro to do the job
thanks ray
thanks fritz ,,time will tell
I just realized that your area code is the same as my auntie! I know where your at now! I go there every summer before we go to the cape (I don't go to p-town) just to clear that up! I don't bat that way! Lol!
You rock!
PJ
well i guess i live in the same town as your auntie !! i won t go to p. town eather that place is like suddom and gamora in the bible ... yikes
Thank you for the tips steven
sure thing wink
Great video.
thank you, for the tips
Help Me Understand, why every person who shows how to troubleshoot these water heater; thinks you have a meter reader. I'm a Homeowner, not a Plumber; how do I do this without Meters?
4katchupwoman if you do not have the proper tools and meters to test for the problem .maybe you need to call someone that has them .. pick your battles buy your comment you should not be touching any thing that can shock you and probley kill you .
steven lavimoniere
Steve,
I just want to try an determine, why I do not have Hot Water.
I don't want to pay someone $300.00, to replace a simple element.
4katchupwoman well get a electrical tester a cheap one will do just fine ,shut power off and disconnect one wire do a ohms test on the element it its ol or open line its the element then you need a special big wrench to remove it once the tank is drained make sure the power is off .
Thanks Steve, I will let you know; how it turns out..
4katchupwoman ok just be careful you do not get hurt in the prosses
Probably cost more to repair the water heater than it does to replace them.
I have a whirlpool hot water heater , draining it is ridiculous , the drain hole in the drain pipe is so small it clogs easily , and the drain spigot is situated in a stupid angle so that the pan edge interferes with trying to attache a hose ...... we can send a man to the moon , but ...........
***** drain it with water pressure to it it will clear the drain of debree
steven lavimoniere
yes it does , and then it clogs up again in no time ..... I have drained it already , just commenting on how crappy the design is on these things ....... manufacturers should figure the drain space needs to be bigger and the drain cock needs to be angled better for attaching a hose , since most likely there is going to be a metal pan to consider RIGHT IN THE WAY if the drain cock is angled the wrong way (which mine was) ...... I thought to twist it a bit counterclockwise , but didn't want to risk a leak , so I "rigged it" ...... job is done now ...... had to replace elements and flushed it out a bit ....... could have been twice as easy with better design from those knucklhead college kids in engineering departments who have never drained one of these things in real life
Bradford whites the anode rod is integrated with the Hot supply fitting outlet. Cold side is the (aquajet) that feeds all the way to the bottom and blows away sediment I believe. Pain in the ass to change out. Wish they had the anode seperate fitting on the top like other types. Easier to change.
Wshure46
sorry to hear about your dad i ment
thats probley not the best thing to do for the buisness .
I don't have a hot water heater. I have a cold water heater.
HA!...like that with the relief...don't be stuck on stupid!...never did, cuz I always had good mentors!
I always do new thermostats too, if the customer agrees...an upsell, as they are paying mostly labor...can install as tank is filling...there any way...why not a complete refurb for a little extra...just sayin' (and no call back)
Panel door screwed on upside down
Your video is so jumpy that I had to abandon it after about 20 seconds. Sorry, probably had some good info in it.
+Jim Ables older video sorry
thank you, well explain don't b stuck on stupid lol
thanks for watching
steven lavimoniere
hey Steven i had a lower bad element, i change it but still my hot water don't last like before.i don't know if my lower thermostat is no good or do i have to push the rest button after everything don't? need your opinion. thx
Lighting is poor camera is all over the place no explanation for what screws are