Her father sending her to Japan because ''Family is the most important thing'' only for that family to then kick her out is so fucked, I feel really bad for her
you can usually trust close family members like parents and siblings and *maybe* other family you've been around very often. Anyone beyond that though? Might as well view them as strangers.
lol yeah... that was the worst part. not the, being punished for loving a country that hates you and doesnt acknowledge you as an american let alone a human being despite your love...
@@sanai97 Yeah, sure. OR, counter suggestion, she might have genuinely loved her husband and not been happy because she was being forcefully ripped away from a man she loved. You know, just a possibility.
@@sanai97 lol being divorved at that time doesnt meant at all to be "free from men" it just means that she was even more looked down uppon and had no Support left. She loved her husband So this is Just a cruel goverment act to break her down.
Well, it's part of his long running speech error of using "whenever" in the place of "when". It's a minor grammatical failing, but one repeated so frequently and that changes the nature of the sentence enough as to potentially completely throw off the intended meaning.
She seems like such a genuinely nice and likable person too. This whole story really just drives home how you can do nothing wrong in life and still get absolutely screwed.
It's disgusting they punished this woman who did nothing wrong for 'treason' yet let the man who run unit 731, who literally TORTURED OTHER HUMANS TO DEATH was granted immunity.
America, and most other countries on earth, have no morals. It's always about the bottom line. Human lives are always expendable to the government. It's horrendous, I agree fully.
This story is so messed up. She never even did anything wrong at all, it was literally just bad luck that she happened to get stuck in Japan and happened to get kicked out of her house and happened to end up in the radio job. One of the starkest examples of how unfair life can be for no reason. I feel for her so much
I mean, there was a reason. American and Japanese leadership were both so cruel it borders on evil. Ava wasn't just a victim of circumstance; she was the victim of policies humans wrote.
To be fair.... she did go behind the japanese's bavk. Justifiably so, but still. She also was in a position where you would be dammed if you did, and dammed if you didnt. Realy, the only problem with the story is the guilty verdict, and what came with it. The rest is relativey justified.
It's so sad to think about the lives of Japanese Americans during the WWII area. In both countries, they were mistreated and looked upon as potential traitors. In the US, many people of Japanese descent on the west coast were forced into relocation camps, despite many of them being US citizens. I never realized that they were treated similarly in Japan. There truly was no escape from the scrutiny they faced.
Look up the nissei regiment, made up of asain/Japanese americans and the most heavily decorated battalion in US history, while they were being used as cannon fodder their families were in said concentration camps back "home." They received little to no recognition for their actions until much later in the century.
The worst part about it is that she really was loyal to her country until the end, and any justice she got took too disgustingly long. God bless Ava and all of the other Japanese Americans who suffered during this time
I like to think that many of the people who fought long and hard for her to be pardoned were former soldiers, sailors and marines who listened to her and enjoyed her broadcast. It was the least they could do to repay her for lifting their spirits during their brutal fight against the Japanese. Her country didn't turn its back on her. Only her government.
I actually met her in Chicago! I was probably 19 or 20, and I only knew the sensationalized story of Tokyo Rose. Her family (I assume) owned a store around Belmont and Clark called Toguri Mercantile. She was just a nice old Japanese lady working at the front of a store full of Japanese home decor items and shelf-stable groceries. She had an easy smile with customers and chatted with a few people she seemed to know well. I was deep in my anime phase at the time, so what I was there for was obvious lol. Their selection of anime stuff was slim, but I knew it was authentic, unlike most of the stuff in Chinatown, being knockoffs (I was a fiend for gachapon figures, and the knockoffs had shit paint and sprue everywhere). I didn't know it was her until my dad mentioned it when we were back out on the street. Sadly the store closed around when the Alley did, and that big eyesore of a Target opened. Damn shame. She got done dirty, but I'm glad she finished her later years happy and comfortable.
Man! I envy you so much. To meet such a person who was a part of history. Really cool. Also, as someone who is relatively new to anime and manga (i got into both in late 2020 and am loving it!) this story of yours is doubly fun to read, madam. I am glad she got to live a happy life in her later years, at least.
I go by that area frequently and pass that same target on Clark as my wife and I love taking a walk in Hamlin Park just past Damen. Hamlin Park is the ONLY reason I go to that area now
There was a rather infamous "Axis Sally" broadcasting from fascist Italy who ditched the standard propaganda in favour of straight-up appealing to soldiers urges for female company. Apparently she had this very deep, sexy voice and would tell allied soldiers to put down their guns and visit her for a good time instead. I learned this from an old war documentary series and the footage of these former soldiers, middle-aged men at the time of filming, imitating this Italian femme fatale is just hilarious.
A female had a “very deep, sexy voice” yea I’m calling Uber bullshit on that one… no man in the history of heterosexuality has ever believed a woman’s “deep voice” to be “sexy”
I have thought my whole life that Tokyo rose was someone who deliberately tried to demoralize American troops on radio broadcasts. And it's crazy to think, because I always try to do my research before I have an opinion on someone. Thank you for educating me on this, I had no idea.
I hate to use the word propaganda because it sounds really strong, but a lot of US history anecdotes have been deconstructed and manipulated into a form of propaganda against other entities. Makes you wonder how we would think or perceive these things if research aids like google/internet in general weren’t functioning as widespread as it is today.
Being Japanese American myself aside, what the US did wasn't surprising. It'd be a shock if they handled this differently. I'm thankful I wasn't born during this highly prejudiced time(I've had idiotic comments about my heritage thrown at me, but glad it's not at the same degree nowadays). Gen. Shiro Ishii of Unit 731 was treated better than Iva which is bonkers. He was actually evil and performed depraved experiments on people.
I think the only reason he was treated much better than an American citizen of Japanese descent was because Japan didn’t want any of their crimes to reach the western world. Of course giving him immunity wasn’t going to shut up the soldiers who witnessed unit 731 and apologized for it decades later. Also that many war criminals, both German, Japanese, and Italian fled to South America (specifically Argentina) because Peron really liked socialism (He called it Peronism, I’m not sure how different Peronism was from Facism, Communism, or Socialism but they have to be alike somewhat due to how infamous Peron had become during his presidency)
Ishii was treated favorably by the US after the war because he had access to research that had the potential to boost the understanding of the human body and medicine. This research was done at the expense of prisoners, of course, but in exchange for Ishii's research, he was let off the hook.
You can think Dr. Mengele, and Shiro Ishii for a huge chunk of modern medical knowledge, especially surrounding treatments for bodily trauma, and the development of limb re-attachment techniques. Were they “good people” not for any of us to say, but I guarantee you similar experiments are still being conducted by various Governments, they’re just better at hiding it now.
the us govt used racist propaganda to paint the japanese as brutal animals who were an inferior race and needed to be put in their place. this was to play into the already existing prejudices that people had against the “orient” to keep enlistment high. people forget that public support for the pacific war was difficult to maintain as it was such a deadly conflict. honestly in a situation of total war, i can’t begrudge the government but it can’t be ignored as people boil ww2 down to a battle of good an evil. it’s a good case study into pragmatism and propaganda in general, as the pacific war was partially fuelled by racism. (i’m not supporting imperial japan at all, just pointing out something i found interesting in my studies :))
I had to pause the video and laugh at the part where she called the American soldiers "boneheads" and they told the Japanese officials that it was a nasty insult
Two minute safety seminar at work: “I can hardly stay awake for this” Random thirty two minute long dad video: “you have my full and undivided attention”
I have a sexual harassment videos to watch from my new job. How every place makes you go through. My boss allows me to do it at home because internet sucks there. Here I am watching this
It is crazy how true this comment is, lol. Cant wait for each video no matter the content it seems (almost anyway, not a huge fan of the alt reality stuff, but just because I dont really 'get' or find interest in the subject matter, the quality is still up to normal standards).
I just heard about her today in passing and wanted todo a deep dive on her my self. It's so strange today of all days you upload a video on this VERY person.
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Coming from an active US Marine, this piece of our media history is regrettable to say the least. I know that if I or my brothers were in the Jungles and trenches during WWll, we would have taken heart and humor from this "Tokyo Rose's" broadcasts. This video I believe shows a fatal flaw in the US mainstream media that has existed far longer than most of us would have imagined. I warn you all to be critical and analytical about everything you discover through means not your own. Thank Wendigoon for posting this glimpse into a piece of United States history that many others would not feel comfortable reviewing.
It was the government that decided to put her on trial. This isn’t just the media. It’s a fatal flaw in the US government that rears its head especially hard when it comes to soldiers they decide they can abuse and benefit from it. You’re not wrong in the slightest bout yellow journalism and the heartache it brings. But America coulda shut them up quick. They coulda let her come home after serving her country for four years despite the constant risk to her life in doing so. They coulda released a statement that she was not a criminal but an ally. But they didn’t. You can’t just blame the media. This is just another example of how those who participate in serious, active warfare are abused. Especially if they look like the enemy. Just my viewpoint as a dude who works with the vets the military allows to become homeless and disabled.
You mention that public outcry is the only reason why anything good in the government happens but it's a double edged sword. The only reason her predicament escalated in the first place was due to the public frenzy caused by the media. Honestly, listening to this story has made me feel incredibly wary of not only the government but also about public opinion/outcry.
@@cable7763It depends on how you view things. The media is to blame too, don't get me wrong but people act dumb when they are whipped up in a herd or us versus them mentality and that's a problem.
And you are right about that. We should always question our government, that is part of a democracy, but there is a reason why we have this culture of public witch-hunts right now. The more people you put together, the dumber they act.
The end has me crying my eyes out. This woman didn’t deserve all the bad that was dropped on her. She lost years of her life, her mom, her friend and partner without ever getting to see him again. Absolutely heartbreaking. May she rest in love and peace
Not everyone is destined for peace Edit: I'm not saying it's OK just for clarification. It's horrifically sad. It's just humans do this again and again and again. Injustice and corruption are everywhere... its a disease
"The only treason Iva ever knew was that that her country had committed against her." That is the main takeaway from this video, I think. For all that the US did in WWII, there is plenty to be shameful about.
@@goddessofthots5096 absolutely all sides of the war did shameful things. I don’t really think there’s a point in trying to absolve ourselves of guilt by competing for who committed the most atrocities. There is no good guy in war, every side is responsible and really the only ones who are ever proud of having participated in wars are the ones who never saw the actual fighting. The ones who didn’t lose anything. And I think right now is a good time for all of us to remember that.
WW1 and 2 has some really interesting stuff, from White Friday, Angels of Mons, the 1st ever Tank Battle, the Bataan Death March, the traitors of every theatre, the Japanese unit that got obliterated by Crocodiles, and more
@@Scrubermensch imma add something about women in WWI: Mata Hari (fuck, her life is hell), and Milunka Savic (most decorated female soldier of history)
The woman you mentioned (Mildred Gillars) was a great read on Wikipedia! Here are some quotes from her page: "She soon acquired several names amongst her GI audience...but the most common was 'Axis Sally'. This name probably came when, asked on air to describe herself, Gillars said she was "the Irish type… a real Sally."" "In 1943, an Italian-American woman, Rita Zucca, also began broadcasting to American forces from Rome, using the name 'Sally'...though Gillars was annoyed another woman was broadcasting under her name". (edit) from one of the wiki sources, historynet: "In Berlin, Mildred Gillars was incensed when she discovered there was another woman broadcasting as Axis Sally, and threatened to quit. “I felt that I could be responsible for anything that I said and I didn’t want any confusion after the end of the war as to what I said,” she recalled. “It caused a great deal of trouble.” Her threats were empty ones, however, and both Sallys continued their broadcasts until the war’s bitter end." "On the evening of March 15, 1946, Gillars returned home to a boarding house in the British sector to find a pale, nervous U.S. Army soldier pointing a revolver in her direction. CIC special agent Robert Abeles announced, “Miss Gillars, you are under arrest.” With a surprised “Oh…” she surrendered..."
While everyone is focused on the tragedy of this story, which is true, I can’t help but think of how much of a badass she was for her resilience and essentially fighting in the war her own way.
So happy you're making a video about this. My family (specifically my mom and my grandma) have met Tokyo Rose (Iva Toguri), and when she moved to Chicago she spent a lot of time with my family. I do japanese classical dance in Chicago (my troupe is one of the only japanese dance troupes in Illinois), and she went to our recitals and sometimes MC'd (I was not alive during that time, haha). It's truly amazing to know that she had such a close connection to me and my family! I remember visiting a cemetery, and my mom & grandma pointed out her grave to me. It's a truly amazing story of what happened to her. My dance teacher was actually persuaded by Iva to start his dance troupe, and they were close friends ever since she moved to Chicago, until her passing. I've been watching your stuff for a while, and I was so surprised to see you did a video on a person that I have such a close connection to!
It's a small world! My good friend grew up with her in the Japanese-American community that I believe was centered north along Clark. He has great stories about the Japanese-American community at that time, which unfortunately was not the same after people left for the burbs.
My grandpa guarded Tokyo Rose while she was detained after the war. From the stories he told, the bathing was private aside from a guard or two. My grandpa would keep his back turned to her as she taunted him to turn around, which is pretty funny. These public viewings must have been at a different point in her incarceration. Also, the army would require witnesses for the executions, and my grandpa was selected for a few of them. He said he connected and respected some of the men so he had to go to the library and read about the war crimes they had committed so that he wouldn't feel bad about them being killed.
please apply this to Russian people right now. many people who have never wanted this war and have been against Putin for years, now lost opportunities, collaborations, etc, basically their future due to where they were born.
@@MsJerrySparklewe have sympathy for Russians who fight against Putin and Kremlin. I have no sympathy for “apolitical” vatniks who cry russianphobia when I tell them to stay the fuck out of my country if they’re so insistent on supporting their governments warcrimes up until they get a draft notice.
The amount of katzaps on the Mexican-US border trying to get visas because someone in their family got drafted is staggering. Yet they happily stayed silent in Russia while the Berkut tortured their own civilians in prisons, arrested and beat activists with lead pipes, and then invaded Ukraine to rape and pillage. No sympathy for them. But I’ll happily support and donate to the badass fuckers who do flash mobs like Pussy Riot, or the people sabatoging infrastructure.
I’ve never heard of this at all. I watch a few history channels, and definitely watch way too many in depth analysis videos. But Wendi, is the first person to let me know these kinds of broadcasts existed. You can never predict what Wendigoon is gonna deliver and I 👏 AM 👏 HERE 👏 FOR 👏 THAT 👏
It's so disrespectful how people still called her Tokyo Rose even after her death, despite the fact that the whole thing is a complete crock of crap. It really seems like she had a kind soul
it's a cultural difference. someone needed to take care of her aunt, and he couldn't do it himself. In East Asia, family wellness is far more important than personal wellness, bar none.
@@georgeharrisonfricklas7927 So he respects his culture enough to send his daughter there alone with no knowledge of the language, but doesn’t respect his culture enough to pass it on? If he valued family so much, he should have taught her about her own family, culture, and language
@@meatonthebone7203 the US was violently racist against immigrants of all kinds back then. People were desperate to get the target off their backs any way they could. Some groups formed gangs for protection, some hoped that total assimilation would reassure people that they were "one of them". There was no winning that game. Yeah, the dad was a bit of an idiot, but this was not an uncommon way to raise your kids back then.
I totally agree. No way would I have done that as a father. I'd just have gone there myself and have her take of mom in her real home. Absolute lack of common sense
Damn, that was bittersweet at least for her. I cant imagine what it was like for her to divorced her husband whom she must have loved dearly. May you rest in peace, Lady Iva.
I love the idea of the emotional and psychological warfare that was fought on the radio waves. It reminds me a lot of Juan Garcia/Garbo the Spy's story, since it's all about words being used in place of actual physical violence. You have to wonder which one was more destructive in the end, right? I mean yeah maybe the nukes were more destructive but still
My best friend's maternal side of the family were taken to the Gila River internment camp in AZ during WWII. Her mom was only a small child at the time. Luckily, their family home in Los Angeles was able to be saved from seizure because they had non Japanese friends to temporarily sign it over to. Her father, also Japanese, fought in WWII, for the US. I believe he was stationed somewhere in Europe, as I can't imagine they'd feel comfortable sending him into Japan. It's so sad to hear how Japanese Americans were treated during the war, but it's incredible to hear the stories of how resilient and resourceful they were. Unfortunately, my friend's dad passed away some years back. But her mom is still around and hearing about her experiences is always so interesting.
Hey, I never watched your channel before, however, I remember hearing about Tokyo Rose back in the 8th grade in 2001. Among other things such as watching "Tora! Tora! Tora!" We discussed and were quizzed on Tokyo Rose. She was taught to us as an unequivocal traitor whose sole intention was to demoralize the troops. This is absolutely eye opening. Thank you so much for this. It's insane how propaganda was used against her while she was trying to foil.. propaganda in the first place!
Considering his name, I assume he’d know quite a bit. Also he’s from Appalachia himself, apparently. Said it in a video. So it would fit what he’s used to
This video might be depressing, but it is one of these stories that must be shared so people like her can have some justice no matter how small. She doesn't deserve to be in infamy after all she did.
She looks so kind... My heart breaks that such a kind woman was treated so awfully by her own people. It makes me happy that she held her head high and didn't allow herself to become bitter despite everything.
So let me get this straight, a young adult (practically a teen) to forced to go to another country by her parents despite not being taught the language or culture, a war breaks out which means she can't go back, her family in that new country kicks her on the street for not caring about the new country as much as the one she was raised in, then she forced at the end of a gun to become a radio host, which she turns into a fun jab at the country that's done nothing but be a nuisance on her very existence and then once the war stops, shes tried for treason and forced to throw away her entire adult life until the fuckin cold war? Litterally everyone except felipe fucked her over; her govt (multiple times), the japanese govt (multiple times), her parents, her extended family, the judge, the snaky never-changing journalists who'd ruin a life for a penny on the street. And no one even wins by ruining her life except for the journalists who fucked off once she was put in prison. *ahem....... *BRUUUUUUUUUUUH* Edit: and she doesn't even get her husband back? Fuck everything!!!
28:57 wendigoon that time stamp you said the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard you say you said (and due to public outcry because that’s the only reason anything good in government ever happens ) dumbest things you ever said I have a bunch of examples public outcry caUsed the media and government to mark concerned parents that were voicing frustration about books that were put into their library by a school comity who were hardcore leftist btw these kids are 11 at youngest 14 at oldest the books were talking about sexual material like one book they had called gender quee*r that talked about how to young men were finding their sexuality talking about how to give echother a blow j*b btw this is right next to the entrance of the library on the shelf any kid could of checked it out another example a dads daughter was rap*d in high school and since the person was a trans he/her whatever a bunch of men and women who support trans fame into the school during the hearing he was having with the school board and started berating him when he was trying to have a public meeting with them and then the school board who also had similar opinions started being rude and cutting the parent off (a white male and his daughter just got rap*d at their school ) well needless to say the dad got mad and they called security to escort him out with force body slammed him and carried him out while the people who support trans clapped so like no media and the government do not mix well and are not good wendigoon @wendigood.
@@starsiadraws Yeah, she was an adult but who tf knows anything at 20 let alone navigate a situation like that, most people that age don't even know how to do laundry properly.
i hope the wwii project is about wartime propaganda, that would be super interesting. stuff like the disney propaganda films are really weird and a rarely discussed aspect of wwii
there’s actually a musical about this story right now! it’s called tokyo rose and i’m pretty sure it’s touring the UK currently but highly recommended!
hearing her child died only a day later just broke my heart. she did so much for american morale, and yet she was treated so horribly by the country she lived in and loved...
I really don't know what they expected, maybe they felt bad and wanted her to get in touch with her heritage but I don't know how they expected her to do that when she didn't even speak japanese
It's so heartbreaking, but wow what a strong woman I would've been so bitter. Thank you for sharing her story I had no idea! She uplifted so many people in dark places.
@@kylenielsen5083 Yes, I found that in several sources in my research. When she was first being held, her guards would parade their pals and other visitors through the open shower area while Iva was bathing. The groups of men would grin and catcall and shout hateful and humiliating remarks at her while she stood naked under the spray, trying her best to ignore them. And yes, she was coerced into providing autographs, which were special trophies for people to snare.
I absolutely love how Wendigoon is very family-friendly in the way he speaks in his videos, even if the video discusses spooky stuff. He does not use any fowl language, and he always says "And as always, thank you for watching", even before he starts the video. This is what I hope more Christians would be like- always respectful of others, no matter the other person's beliefs, and not beating them down. Thank you Wendigoon for being a good example. I wish you did more Sunday Studies! I really enjoy them, and also, I enjoy horror.
i do not think this comment is wholesome. thinking vulgarity is somehow bad is a complete and childish misunderstanding of linguistics and points to an infirm and embarrassingly shallow philosophy
Not being American, I never hear about the topics you cover until they come up in your videos. This was fascinating. Thank you so much for another great video!
I feel really bad for her, she had a terrible life although she really was supportive of America. Bless her heart for I will forever think of her as a light of hope.
The "and pardoned" portion of the intro actually got me interested. The US has been pretty shit to Asian Americans through pretty much the entire time it's had them. Even progressive movements today tend to just assume they're all wealthy Chinese business people and just sort of forget Asia is the biggest continent on the planet, so they get hate from all sides.
Oof. Good ol ‘Mercia did this family dirty as hell. For shame on us. That young woman didn’t want to be there, was literally forced to work at the radio station AND on top of that her parents were forced into a damn camp where her mother died.
This type of storytime content is actually among my favorite that you do because history is growing in importance to me as I age lest I repeat the mistakes of my forefathers. Thanks for shining a light on this clever lady during this time in particular and may we not make the same mistake with our Russian brothers and sisters that we did with Orphan Annie, may she rest in peace.
This is quite similar to what my great-grandfather went through during the Winter War. He was indigenous and living in Russia during the war, and since he was indigenous he was treated like trash by the government. He was forced to be a spy for Russia and ended up imprisoned in Finland due to this. The guy never had a choice yet he was punished for it all the same. Sad to hear this happens everywhere to such different people as well.
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It’s very strange, how much she loved the USA, in spite of how it treated her. It doesn’t seem like she was treated like a citizen, treated with respect, given basic human rights or ever welcome there.
28:57 wendigoon that time stamp you said the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard you say you said (and due to public outcry because that’s the only reason anything good in government ever happens ) dumbest things you ever said I have a bunch of examples public outcry caUsed the media and government to mark concerned parents that were voicing frustration about books that were put into their library by a school comity who were hardcore leftist btw these kids are 11 at youngest 14 at oldest the books were talking about sexual material like one book they had called gender quee*r that talked about how to young men were finding their sexuality talking about how to give echother a blow j*b btw this is right next to the entrance of the library on the shelf any kid could of checked it out another example a dads daughter was rap*d in high school and since the person was a trans he/her whatever a bunch of men and women who support trans fame into the school during the hearing he was having with the school board and started berating him when he was trying to have a public meeting with them and then the school board who also had similar opinions started being rude and cutting the parent off (a white male and his daughter just got rap*d at their school ) well needless to say the dad got mad and they called security to escort him out with force body slammed him and carried him out while the people who support trans clapped so like no media and the government do not mix well and are not good wendigoon @wendigood
@@kidflashclone that’s a bot account ignore it. Also yeah. I think people forget that us Christian’s kinda created horror and then abandoned it during the satanic panic of the 90s. Like how many horror stories come from Christian nations? Frankenstein, Dracula, werewolves, etc. like we all know the paranormal exists so naturally stories of ghouls and ghosts and demons follow soon after. And then the writers come along and do their thing. Dante’s inferno being the most well known Christian horror
@@SymphonyZach Straight facts! Let's not forget that there is much scandalous activity in the Bible from murder to risque situations. Christians certainly don't condone it, but we are good at describing it!
This was super awesome and well made! It's kinda funny cause we have been learning about WWII in school and Tokyo Rose was briefly mentioned, it seems interesting but we only glossed over it, and then you come out with this in depth story! Thanks sincerely, your videos are always really entertaining and cover interesting topics
Iva Toguri would also share what little food and meds she was able to obtain with MAJ Cousens and other POWs attached to the studio, who would then smuggle it to US and Allied prisoners in the camps. It wasn’t much, but it was all she could do, and it’s probably best not to imagine what the Kempeitei would have done to her if she was caught. That woman was an American hero, and what was done to her is a national disgrace.
Wendigoon, you're so fuckin awesome. This is the kind of content you put out that makes me proud to come back again and again. Spilling truths, giving peace and opening eyes. Keep these coming. Thank you. ❤
This story is so messed up and this videos outro brought tears to my eyes. I would’ve loved to have the opportunity to meet this woman, she seemed so kind and she sounded so optimistic.
Loved the video and learning about the history . Very tragic and sad story , but a story that should be told hopefully we can learn from mistakes that were made in the past
Thank you for telling this story! I had no idea about it... it's so heartbreaking but I'm glad to know about Eva now!! May she and Felipe rest in peace, they really deserve it...
This might be stupid but I like how this old military sitcom called “baba black sheep” used Tokyo Rose. She was in the background of the base scenes or maybe a character would turn on the radio and hear her broadcast. Was a really cool way they used real history.
Great video. I want to say, if you're going to have similar old film clips in your future WWII video(s), it would be nice to have captions along with them as they're very muffled and difficult to understand at times. They were a great addition here, even if I couldn't understand every word
I do feel the same way so thank you for sharing this wonderful woman’s story with us. Wish I could have met her. So sorry for what all was done to this beautiful amazing lady.
Ilove that you talk about stuff like this. As someone who loves history but doesn't look into much (idk ...why I should tho), I love learning much more obscure things that never would've been talked about on a bigger scale. This was sad but....Iva was so strong. Like wow
I wish I'd known about her earlier, she seemed like such a cool woman. It's these kinds of stories that I wish were taught in American history classes. Thank you for bringing her story to light! :)
I remember when I was little and I was looking up the meaning of the Pack-A-Punch weapons names and the upgraded PM63 was, "Tokyo and Rose" so I chose to look it up and found out the back story of the whole situation.
Honestly, I still see this story as inspiring even though she ended up being screwed over by the government. She was able to have such a chipper attitude even in times of hardship, and she was a real patriot, with a lot of strength of character. I choose to remember her story for the person she was and not for the way the state disrespected her.
Have you ever thought about covering the aftermath of either nuclear bomb? From the accounta ive read its absolutely horrifying. Alligator people, the sky going up in a blinding flash, the horrors of radiation poisioning. Theres so much to unpack i bet it would be a great topic
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Her father sending her to Japan because ''Family is the most important thing'' only for that family to then kick her out is so fucked, I feel really bad for her
you can usually trust close family members like parents and siblings and *maybe* other family you've been around very often. Anyone beyond that though? Might as well view them as strangers.
@@yerpderp6800 exactly
lol yeah... that was the worst part. not the, being punished for loving a country that hates you and doesnt acknowledge you as an american let alone a human being despite your love...
Japan moment
@@Potatotenkopf conflating family and just about everything else with country
The fact she had to divorce her husband she loved just because the government was full of jackasses is so heartbreaking
Getting free from men at that time was a gift. She probably would be ecstatic if not for... Well, the rest of men.
@@sanai97 it probably was.. but people can be bias as to what were considered as "gifts"
@@sanai97 Yeah, sure. OR, counter suggestion, she might have genuinely loved her husband and not been happy because she was being forcefully ripped away from a man she loved. You know, just a possibility.
@@sanai97 Are you some kind “Reverse Incel”….
@@sanai97 lol being divorved at that time doesnt meant at all to be "free from men" it just means that she was even more looked down uppon and had no Support left. She loved her husband So this is Just a cruel goverment act to break her down.
I like how Wendigoon just says “Whenever I buy a PC…” during the ad read, likes he’s just buying a whole new desktop every other week lmao
@@VeganSemihCyprus33
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🐌🍞You don’t🧠✨
Well, it's part of his long running speech error of using "whenever" in the place of "when". It's a minor grammatical failing, but one repeated so frequently and that changes the nature of the sentence enough as to potentially completely throw off the intended meaning.
@@notsae66 a what
@@Sierooworks they said he often erroneously uses "Whenever" instead of "When"
in doing so the context of the sentences are changed
@@LevityLeviathan a what (jk)
She seems like such a genuinely nice and likable person too. This whole story really just drives home how you can do nothing wrong in life and still get absolutely screwed.
Yay government
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It's disgusting they punished this woman who did nothing wrong for 'treason' yet let the man who run unit 731, who literally TORTURED OTHER HUMANS TO DEATH was granted immunity.
America, and most other countries on earth, have no morals. It's always about the bottom line. Human lives are always expendable to the government. It's horrendous, I agree fully.
America moment
woman moment
According to Wikipedia, America gave the captured ‘researchers’ secret immunity in exchanged for the data from the ‘experiments’
@@Sockren ??
This story is so messed up. She never even did anything wrong at all, it was literally just bad luck that she happened to get stuck in Japan and happened to get kicked out of her house and happened to end up in the radio job. One of the starkest examples of how unfair life can be for no reason. I feel for her so much
I mean, there was a reason. American and Japanese leadership were both so cruel it borders on evil. Ava wasn't just a victim of circumstance; she was the victim of policies humans wrote.
To be fair.... she did go behind the japanese's bavk.
Justifiably so, but still.
She also was in a position where you would be dammed if you did, and dammed if you didnt.
Realy, the only problem with the story is the guilty verdict, and what came with it.
The rest is relativey justified.
It’s all because of humans that are an embarrassment to our own race(dumb people)
well f you Walter winchell, seriously..
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 no one cares
It's so sad to think about the lives of Japanese Americans during the WWII area. In both countries, they were mistreated and looked upon as potential traitors. In the US, many people of Japanese descent on the west coast were forced into relocation camps, despite many of them being US citizens. I never realized that they were treated similarly in Japan. There truly was no escape from the scrutiny they faced.
It's truly wild to think what levels a human being will put one another through.
Canada? We’re pretty chill about taking in people who have nowhere safe to be.
Thanks FDR.
You talk bout this but not ughyurs being hunted down by the ccp, or sino Japanese war
Look up the nissei regiment, made up of asain/Japanese americans and the most heavily decorated battalion in US history, while they were being used as cannon fodder their families were in said concentration camps back "home." They received little to no recognition for their actions until much later in the century.
The worst part about it is that she really was loyal to her country until the end, and any justice she got took too disgustingly long. God bless Ava and all of the other Japanese Americans who suffered during this time
I like to think that many of the people who fought long and hard for her to be pardoned were former soldiers, sailors and marines who listened to her and enjoyed her broadcast. It was the least they could do to repay her for lifting their spirits during their brutal fight against the Japanese.
Her country didn't turn its back on her. Only her government.
This is an example of someone who should get the medal of freedom . This is what that should be for .
I actually met her in Chicago! I was probably 19 or 20, and I only knew the sensationalized story of Tokyo Rose. Her family (I assume) owned a store around Belmont and Clark called Toguri Mercantile. She was just a nice old Japanese lady working at the front of a store full of Japanese home decor items and shelf-stable groceries. She had an easy smile with customers and chatted with a few people she seemed to know well. I was deep in my anime phase at the time, so what I was there for was obvious lol. Their selection of anime stuff was slim, but I knew it was authentic, unlike most of the stuff in Chinatown, being knockoffs (I was a fiend for gachapon figures, and the knockoffs had shit paint and sprue everywhere). I didn't know it was her until my dad mentioned it when we were back out on the street. Sadly the store closed around when the Alley did, and that big eyesore of a Target opened. Damn shame. She got done dirty, but I'm glad she finished her later years happy and comfortable.
Man! I envy you so much. To meet such a person who was a part of history. Really cool. Also, as someone who is relatively new to anime and manga (i got into both in late 2020 and am loving it!) this story of yours is doubly fun to read, madam. I am glad she got to live a happy life in her later years, at least.
BIG SAME. She was always sweet and mild when I ran into her there.
damn you guys got to meet her, thats awesome, meanwhile im just from the state that imprisoned her mother until she died.
I go by that area frequently and pass that same target on Clark as my wife and I love taking a walk in Hamlin Park just past Damen. Hamlin Park is the ONLY reason I go to that area now
Yea right
Imagine intentionally fucking up on the job you're doing infront of your superiors and getting paid to do it. God speed, Tokyo Rose.
There was a rather infamous "Axis Sally" broadcasting from fascist Italy who ditched the standard propaganda in favour of straight-up appealing to soldiers urges for female company. Apparently she had this very deep, sexy voice and would tell allied soldiers to put down their guns and visit her for a good time instead. I learned this from an old war documentary series and the footage of these former soldiers, middle-aged men at the time of filming, imitating this Italian femme fatale is just hilarious.
how can a deep female voice be sexy..?
That's pretty funny
A female had a “very deep, sexy voice” yea I’m calling Uber bullshit on that one… no man in the history of heterosexuality has ever believed a woman’s “deep voice” to be “sexy”
@@richardtherichard26 hey now, don't kinkshame. If I dig a woman that's got the voice of a 60yr old with a laryngectomy then that's my prerogative
@@richardtherichard26 man they’re not saying she sounded like morgan freeman she just had a deep rich tone to her voice
"The only treason that Iva ever knew was that that her country commited against her" hit me like a truck
lmao lmao lmao
She got off easy.
It’s Iva, but you wouldn’t know that based on Wendigoon’s blatant mispronunciation
@@carsonlove531 oh my bad! i'll change it
I have thought my whole life that Tokyo rose was someone who deliberately tried to demoralize American troops on radio broadcasts. And it's crazy to think, because I always try to do my research before I have an opinion on someone. Thank you for educating me on this, I had no idea.
I hate to use the word propaganda because it sounds really strong, but a lot of US history anecdotes have been deconstructed and manipulated into a form of propaganda against other entities. Makes you wonder how we would think or perceive these things if research aids like google/internet in general weren’t functioning as widespread as it is today.
Poor Eva 😔
Being Japanese American myself aside, what the US did wasn't surprising. It'd be a shock if they handled this differently. I'm thankful I wasn't born during this highly prejudiced time(I've had idiotic comments about my heritage thrown at me, but glad it's not at the same degree nowadays). Gen. Shiro Ishii of Unit 731 was treated better than Iva which is bonkers. He was actually evil and performed depraved experiments on people.
I think the only reason he was treated much better than an American citizen of Japanese descent was because Japan didn’t want any of their crimes to reach the western world. Of course giving him immunity wasn’t going to shut up the soldiers who witnessed unit 731 and apologized for it decades later. Also that many war criminals, both German, Japanese, and Italian fled to South America (specifically Argentina) because Peron really liked socialism (He called it Peronism, I’m not sure how different Peronism was from Facism, Communism, or Socialism but they have to be alike somewhat due to how infamous Peron had become during his presidency)
Ishii was treated favorably by the US after the war because he had access to research that had the potential to boost the understanding of the human body and medicine. This research was done at the expense of prisoners, of course, but in exchange for Ishii's research, he was let off the hook.
You can think Dr. Mengele, and Shiro Ishii for a huge chunk of modern medical knowledge, especially surrounding treatments for bodily trauma, and the development of limb re-attachment techniques. Were they “good people” not for any of us to say, but I guarantee you similar experiments are still being conducted by various Governments, they’re just better at hiding it now.
the us govt used racist propaganda to paint the japanese as brutal animals who were an inferior race and needed to be put in their place. this was to play into the already existing prejudices that people had against the “orient” to keep enlistment high. people forget that public support for the pacific war was difficult to maintain as it was such a deadly conflict. honestly in a situation of total war, i can’t begrudge the government but it can’t be ignored as people boil ww2 down to a battle of good an evil. it’s a good case study into pragmatism and propaganda in general, as the pacific war was partially fuelled by racism.
(i’m not supporting imperial japan at all, just pointing out something i found interesting in my studies :))
I love the smile she had on as she was getting messages to soldiers while the Japanese thought she was being hurtful to them lol
I had to pause the video and laugh at the part where she called the American soldiers "boneheads" and they told the Japanese officials that it was a nasty insult
Two minute safety seminar at work: “I can hardly stay awake for this”
Random thirty two minute long dad video: “you have my full and undivided attention”
I have a sexual harassment videos to watch from my new job. How every place makes you go through. My boss allows me to do it at home because internet sucks there. Here I am watching this
@@want.to.b3.gamer670 really all those videos do is to convince me to not associate with women
It is crazy how true this comment is, lol. Cant wait for each video no matter the content it seems (almost anyway, not a huge fan of the alt reality stuff, but just because I dont really 'get' or find interest in the subject matter, the quality is still up to normal standards).
@@aswope6051 i love the reality more. Like the spy video was very interesting. I wish schools would teach too.
Basically
I just heard about her today in passing and wanted todo a deep dive on her my self. It's so strange today of all days you upload a video on this VERY person.
Synchronicity ⭐
Well he has 1.2 million subscribers so you could call it a one in a million chance.
he might be spying on you
Me too! OMG! Jk
Your life is a dream you’re in a coma we’ve been trying to reach you but the doctors say your brain damage is permanent this is your daughter please daddy wake up... I love you.
Coming from an active US Marine, this piece of our media history is regrettable to say the least. I know that if I or my brothers were in the Jungles and trenches during WWll, we would have taken heart and humor from this "Tokyo Rose's" broadcasts. This video I believe shows a fatal flaw in the US mainstream media that has existed far longer than most of us would have imagined. I warn you all to be critical and analytical about everything you discover through means not your own. Thank Wendigoon for posting this glimpse into a piece of United States history that many others would not feel comfortable reviewing.
It was the government that decided to put her on trial. This isn’t just the media. It’s a fatal flaw in the US government that rears its head especially hard when it comes to soldiers they decide they can abuse and benefit from it.
You’re not wrong in the slightest bout yellow journalism and the heartache it brings. But America coulda shut them up quick. They coulda let her come home after serving her country for four years despite the constant risk to her life in doing so. They coulda released a statement that she was not a criminal but an ally. But they didn’t.
You can’t just blame the media. This is just another example of how those who participate in serious, active warfare are abused. Especially if they look like the enemy.
Just my viewpoint as a dude who works with the vets the military allows to become homeless and disabled.
the predator hunts, the prey gets found
Beautifully put
word up
Thank you
You mention that public outcry is the only reason why anything good in the government happens but it's a double edged sword. The only reason her predicament escalated in the first place was due to the public frenzy caused by the media. Honestly, listening to this story has made me feel incredibly wary of not only the government but also about public opinion/outcry.
@@cable7763It depends on how you view things. The media is to blame too, don't get me wrong but people act dumb when they are whipped up in a herd or us versus them mentality and that's a problem.
And you are right about that. We should always question our government, that is part of a democracy, but there is a reason why we have this culture of public witch-hunts right now. The more people you put together, the dumber they act.
Death to the Government, our self proclaimed civil servants, but all they do is serve themself
The end has me crying my eyes out. This woman didn’t deserve all the bad that was dropped on her. She lost years of her life, her mom, her friend and partner without ever getting to see him again. Absolutely heartbreaking. May she rest in love and peace
@@LilWinsDaily there is no difference, stop being so pedantic
@@LilWinsDaily a spouse is a partner in life, so yes, she did lose her partner
@@heetucola1087 Let's round up and say she lost a companion. Doesn't have the same ring to it, does it? Husband is accurate.
Not everyone is destined for peace
Edit: I'm not saying it's OK just for clarification. It's horrifically sad. It's just humans do this again and again and again. Injustice and corruption are everywhere... its a disease
@@LilWinsDaily I thought I was pedantic Jesus. At least be polite. To quote Kenobi "so uncivilised"
"The only treason Iva ever knew was that that her country had committed against her." That is the main takeaway from this video, I think. For all that the US did in WWII, there is plenty to be shameful about.
the entire world went to shit then tbh like the US wasn't even in the top 3 worst atm...maybe top 7 tho lol
@@goddessofthots5096 absolutely all sides of the war did shameful things. I don’t really think there’s a point in trying to absolve ourselves of guilt by competing for who committed the most atrocities. There is no good guy in war, every side is responsible and really the only ones who are ever proud of having participated in wars are the ones who never saw the actual fighting. The ones who didn’t lose anything. And I think right now is a good time for all of us to remember that.
@@goddessofthots5096 pretty sure 2 nukes put murican on no 1.
Honestly I think Americans were the nicest compared to the axis
@@SchizoShack anyone's the nicest when it's compared to genocide. Doesn't excuse what the Allies did, though.
WW1 and 2 has some really interesting stuff, from White Friday, Angels of Mons, the 1st ever Tank Battle, the Bataan Death March, the traitors of every theatre, the Japanese unit that got obliterated by Crocodiles, and more
...what's this about crocodiles?
@@superelitejimi4165 yeah they marched through some swamp and like 80% got eaten. Shits crazy
Don't forget the "huge' feminist contribution in war: the white feather movement"
@@Scrubermensch imma add something about women in WWI: Mata Hari (fuck, her life is hell), and Milunka Savic (most decorated female soldier of history)
@@Scrubermensch were they feminist crocodiles?
The woman you mentioned (Mildred Gillars) was a great read on Wikipedia! Here are some quotes from her page:
"She soon acquired several names amongst her GI audience...but the most common was 'Axis Sally'. This name probably came when, asked on air to describe herself, Gillars said she was "the Irish type… a real Sally.""
"In 1943, an Italian-American woman, Rita Zucca, also began broadcasting to American forces from Rome, using the name 'Sally'...though Gillars was annoyed another woman was broadcasting under her name".
(edit) from one of the wiki sources, historynet:
"In Berlin, Mildred Gillars was incensed when she discovered there was another woman broadcasting as Axis Sally, and threatened to quit. “I felt that I could be responsible for anything that I said and I didn’t want any confusion after the end of the war as to what I said,” she recalled. “It caused a great deal of trouble.” Her threats were empty ones, however, and both Sallys continued their broadcasts until the war’s bitter end."
"On the evening of March 15, 1946, Gillars returned home to a boarding house in the British sector to find a pale, nervous U.S. Army soldier pointing a revolver in her direction. CIC special agent Robert Abeles announced, “Miss Gillars, you are under arrest.” With a surprised “Oh…” she surrendered..."
Based.
Wikipedia is fanfic
Mildred Gillars is a great name.
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 you need to stop promoting your UA-cam videos in more popular creators comment sections
@@Tony_Cardoza fun fact: Gillars was also a surname! Her name was originally Mildred Sisk before her mother remarried
While everyone is focused on the tragedy of this story, which is true, I can’t help but think of how much of a badass she was for her resilience and essentially fighting in the war her own way.
So happy you're making a video about this. My family (specifically my mom and my grandma) have met Tokyo Rose (Iva Toguri), and when she moved to Chicago she spent a lot of time with my family. I do japanese classical dance in Chicago (my troupe is one of the only japanese dance troupes in Illinois), and she went to our recitals and sometimes MC'd (I was not alive during that time, haha). It's truly amazing to know that she had such a close connection to me and my family! I remember visiting a cemetery, and my mom & grandma pointed out her grave to me. It's a truly amazing story of what happened to her. My dance teacher was actually persuaded by Iva to start his dance troupe, and they were close friends ever since she moved to Chicago, until her passing.
I've been watching your stuff for a while, and I was so surprised to see you did a video on a person that I have such a close connection to!
It's a small world! My good friend grew up with her in the Japanese-American community that I believe was centered north along Clark. He has great stories about the Japanese-American community at that time, which unfortunately was not the same after people left for the burbs.
That’s amazing truly!
That’s amazing truly!
My grandpa guarded Tokyo Rose while she was detained after the war. From the stories he told, the bathing was private aside from a guard or two. My grandpa would keep his back turned to her as she taunted him to turn around, which is pretty funny. These public viewings must have been at a different point in her incarceration.
Also, the army would require witnesses for the executions, and my grandpa was selected for a few of them. He said he connected and respected some of the men so he had to go to the library and read about the war crimes they had committed so that he wouldn't feel bad about them being killed.
@one day It sure is.
thats very interesting!! thank u for sharing
Dude missed out
Your grandpa was an Axis soldier?
@@Zackaria_sMax Is that unheard of or something?
It is sad how quickly people demonize anything associated with a nation we aren't on good terms with as if the entire ocean was fouled.
please apply this to Russian people right now. many people who have never wanted this war and have been against Putin for years, now lost opportunities, collaborations, etc, basically their future due to where they were born.
@@MsJerrySparklewe have sympathy for Russians who fight against Putin and Kremlin. I have no sympathy for “apolitical” vatniks who cry russianphobia when I tell them to stay the fuck out of my country if they’re so insistent on supporting their governments warcrimes up until they get a draft notice.
The amount of katzaps on the Mexican-US border trying to get visas because someone in their family got drafted is staggering. Yet they happily stayed silent in Russia while the Berkut tortured their own civilians in prisons, arrested and beat activists with lead pipes, and then invaded Ukraine to rape and pillage.
No sympathy for them. But I’ll happily support and donate to the badass fuckers who do flash mobs like Pussy Riot, or the people sabatoging infrastructure.
I’ve never heard of this at all. I watch a few history channels, and definitely watch way too many in depth analysis videos. But Wendi, is the first person to let me know these kinds of broadcasts existed. You can never predict what Wendigoon is gonna deliver and I 👏 AM 👏 HERE 👏 FOR 👏 THAT 👏
tenhun!!
Absolutely 💯
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Twitter claps? Seriously?
@@Web720 😈 =✋😭✋
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It's so disrespectful how people still called her Tokyo Rose even after her death, despite the fact that the whole thing is a complete crock of crap. It really seems like she had a kind soul
Iva should be considered an American hero. It's a damn shame what she had to go through after risking so much for her country.
I remember my grandfather would tell me stories about having to listen to Hanoi Hannah (the Vietnamese equivalent) during The Battle of Hue
@YeaMan yo leave paige alone
That’s really interesting. Did he have a connection with her like the soldiers did with Eva?
@@unslaadkrosis9435 10/10 🤣👌
Simply being on the wrong place at the wrong time. What a sad destiny she had to go through. At least she had a peaceful old aging
that guy was a psycho. forbidding his daughter from learning Japanese language and culture, then shipping her over there by herself?!
it's a cultural difference. someone needed to take care of her aunt, and he couldn't do it himself. In East Asia, family wellness is far more important than personal wellness, bar none.
@@georgeharrisonfricklas7927 Just because it was "cultural" doesn't mean he wasn't an ass.
@@georgeharrisonfricklas7927 So he respects his culture enough to send his daughter there alone with no knowledge of the language, but doesn’t respect his culture enough to pass it on? If he valued family so much, he should have taught her about her own family, culture, and language
@@meatonthebone7203 the US was violently racist against immigrants of all kinds back then. People were desperate to get the target off their backs any way they could. Some groups formed gangs for protection, some hoped that total assimilation would reassure people that they were "one of them". There was no winning that game. Yeah, the dad was a bit of an idiot, but this was not an uncommon way to raise your kids back then.
I totally agree. No way would I have done that as a father. I'd just have gone there myself and have her take of mom in her real home. Absolute lack of common sense
Damn, that was bittersweet at least for her. I cant imagine what it was like for her to divorced her husband whom she must have loved dearly.
May you rest in peace, Lady Iva.
I cried when you said that she and her husband had to divorce because of the government's actions.
I love the idea of the emotional and psychological warfare that was fought on the radio waves. It reminds me a lot of Juan Garcia/Garbo the Spy's story, since it's all about words being used in place of actual physical violence. You have to wonder which one was more destructive in the end, right?
I mean yeah maybe the nukes were more destructive but still
here I am reading these lovely comments and all I see in the reply's are bots
@@jujui4641 Right? Pretty weird
Big spicy words that make permanent shadows
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My best friend's maternal side of the family were taken to the Gila River internment camp in AZ during WWII. Her mom was only a small child at the time. Luckily, their family home in Los Angeles was able to be saved from seizure because they had non Japanese friends to temporarily sign it over to.
Her father, also Japanese, fought in WWII, for the US. I believe he was stationed somewhere in Europe, as I can't imagine they'd feel comfortable sending him into Japan.
It's so sad to hear how Japanese Americans were treated during the war, but it's incredible to hear the stories of how resilient and resourceful they were. Unfortunately, my friend's dad passed away some years back. But her mom is still around and hearing about her experiences is always so interesting.
This is a very interesting topic. Last year I was researching ww2 and I never learned about this. I can’t wait to finish the video!
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Hey, I never watched your channel before, however, I remember hearing about Tokyo Rose back in the 8th grade in 2001. Among other things such as watching "Tora! Tora! Tora!" We discussed and were quizzed on Tokyo Rose. She was taught to us as an unequivocal traitor whose sole intention was to demoralize the troops.
This is absolutely eye opening. Thank you so much for this. It's insane how propaganda was used against her while she was trying to foil.. propaganda in the first place!
This is so sad...I wish she could have gotten a good settlement, even if it was just for her family.
Hello Mr. Goon, have you thought about doing a somewhat in-depth video on various myths and legends from the Appalachians?
Keep up the good work
Considering his name, I assume he’d know quite a bit. Also he’s from Appalachia himself, apparently. Said it in a video. So it would fit what he’s used to
@@SymphonyZach yeah I figured I'd ask since both he and myself are from that region
This! I've been researching more about this!
@@adrianyates4434 same as I am. Alabama myself. Even heard stuff myself when I used to hunt in western Alabama. Down in those deep woods.
He did one on the wendingo
You know it’s gonna be a good day when Wendi posts
Yessir
I don’t know how I feel about calling my mans “Wendi,” makes my think of my crazy ass aunt that tries to punch people at thanksgiving
@@sharibyaku tbh he probably is just begging for likes
I'm sure he just loves being called "Wendi" LOL
This video might be depressing, but it is one of these stories that must be shared so people like her can have some justice no matter how small. She doesn't deserve to be in infamy after all she did.
She looks so kind... My heart breaks that such a kind woman was treated so awfully by her own people. It makes me happy that she held her head high and didn't allow herself to become bitter despite everything.
I've heard 'Tokyo Rose' mentioned before, but I never really knew what it meant. Thank you for enlightening me!
I feel so bad for this woman, she and her family had it so bad. It's good to hear that her later years were decent, at least.
The deadpan delivery of "I wonder where they got that from" was comic gold
So let me get this straight, a young adult (practically a teen) to forced to go to another country by her parents despite not being taught the language or culture, a war breaks out which means she can't go back, her family in that new country kicks her on the street for not caring about the new country as much as the one she was raised in, then she forced at the end of a gun to become a radio host, which she turns into a fun jab at the country that's done nothing but be a nuisance on her very existence and then once the war stops, shes tried for treason and forced to throw away her entire adult life until the fuckin cold war? Litterally everyone except felipe fucked her over; her govt (multiple times), the japanese govt (multiple times), her parents, her extended family, the judge, the snaky never-changing journalists who'd ruin a life for a penny on the street. And no one even wins by ruining her life except for the journalists who fucked off once she was put in prison.
*ahem....... *BRUUUUUUUUUUUH*
Edit: and she doesn't even get her husband back? Fuck everything!!!
Don’t forget her mom dying before she could see her again in an American concentration camp based on nothing but her ancestral heritage
Hey maybe don't call a woman in her 20s a "teen." She may have been young, but she was an adult.
28:57 wendigoon that time stamp you said the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard you say you said (and due to public outcry because that’s the only reason anything good in government ever happens ) dumbest things you ever said I have a bunch of examples public outcry caUsed the media and government to mark concerned parents that were voicing frustration about books that were put into their library by a school comity who were hardcore leftist btw these kids are 11 at youngest 14 at oldest the books were talking about sexual material like one book they had called gender quee*r that talked about how to young men were finding their sexuality talking about how to give echother a blow j*b btw this is right next to the entrance of the library on the shelf any kid could of checked it out another example a dads daughter was rap*d in high school and since the person was a trans he/her whatever a bunch of men and women who support trans fame into the school during the hearing he was having with the school board and started berating him when he was trying to have a public meeting with them and then the school board who also had similar opinions started being rude and cutting the parent off (a white male and his daughter just got rap*d at their school ) well needless to say the dad got mad and they called security to escort him out with force body slammed him and carried him out while the people who support trans clapped so like no media and the government do not mix well and are not good wendigoon @wendigood.
@@starsiadraws Yeah, she was an adult but who tf knows anything at 20 let alone navigate a situation like that, most people that age don't even know how to do laundry properly.
@@c.w.8200 ??? Who are you talking to? No one said anything like that.
i hope the wwii project is about wartime propaganda, that would be super interesting. stuff like the disney propaganda films are really weird and a rarely discussed aspect of wwii
That would be awesome! Even if it's not about that, could be done another video about that!
He's mentioned a few times doing a full ww2 timeline thing that he joked would probably be over 2hrs lol. That's what came to mind for me.
i’m learning about that in high school right now
That judge had clear bias going into the trial and should have no right being in a court room. It's so sad she had to divorce her husband too.
there’s actually a musical about this story right now! it’s called tokyo rose and i’m pretty sure it’s touring the UK currently but highly recommended!
hearing her child died only a day later just broke my heart. she did so much for american morale, and yet she was treated so horribly by the country she lived in and loved...
journalists and goverment officials looking for tokyo rose has "a hacker known as 4chan" energy
Pause: move across the world and change your entire life to help family you've never met. They proceed to ostracize you. That is INSANE
This story made me so sad. Like she was just a woman caught up in something much larger than her 🙁
So her parents forced her not to learn japanese and then send her there by herself
I really don't know what they expected, maybe they felt bad and wanted her to get in touch with her heritage but I don't know how they expected her to do that when she didn't even speak japanese
thats asian parents for yah (dont come at me, im also asian dgskljdskljlks)
Iva deserves to be remembered as the hero that she was.
Ava
@@soxpeewee literally Iva. Not Ava
Imagine hearing how important family is then having your own blood kick you out along and forced to divorce your husband. She was done dirty.....
Sadistic emotional warfare. It seems we’ll never learn, but that won’t stop me from enjoying this video.
If you ever talk to vets they loved this woman. She was tounge in cheek on their side.
@@rumbletown1563 yes she sounds like an awesome lady, and I’m glad she was able to bring some light to their lives.
Exciting, wasn't expecting new wendigoon, a pleasant surprise to be sure.
It's so heartbreaking, but wow what a strong woman I would've been so bitter. Thank you for sharing her story I had no idea! She uplifted so many people in dark places.
"And due to public outcry, because that's the only reason anything good in government ever happens..."
Truer words were never spoken
You're forgetting the other method. Accidental
I researched Iva Toguri in depth for a book project, and your presentation of her story hit all the right notes. Excellent job!
Hey, just to verify do you know any sources that mention autographs and public bathing?
@@kylenielsen5083 Yes, I found that in several sources in my research. When she was first being held, her guards would parade their pals and other visitors through the open shower area while Iva was bathing. The groups of men would grin and catcall and shout hateful and humiliating remarks at her while she stood naked under the spray, trying her best to ignore them. And yes, she was coerced into providing autographs, which were special trophies for people to snare.
I absolutely love how Wendigoon is very family-friendly in the way he speaks in his videos, even if the video discusses spooky stuff. He does not use any fowl language, and he always says "And as always, thank you for watching", even before he starts the video. This is what I hope more Christians would be like- always respectful of others, no matter the other person's beliefs, and not beating them down. Thank you Wendigoon for being a good example. I wish you did more Sunday Studies! I really enjoy them, and also, I enjoy horror.
That was such a wholesome comment. It feels like neighbor lady I had in high school who would bake me muffins
i do not think this comment is wholesome. thinking vulgarity is somehow bad is a complete and childish misunderstanding of linguistics and points to an infirm and embarrassingly shallow philosophy
@@Liliputian07 🤓
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oh no im being shamed for knowing things on the internet
love this comment! just wondering what would be the problem if curse words were to be used? :)
Not being American, I never hear about the topics you cover until they come up in your videos.
This was fascinating. Thank you so much for another great video!
One detail about the internment camps. It wasn't just people who were Japanese citizens, but also Americans who were ethnically of Japanese origin.
Yup and there were no German-American camps.
I feel really bad for her, she had a terrible life although she really was supportive of America. Bless her heart for I will forever think of her as a light of hope.
This entire thing is fucked. Absolutely fucked. I do see though that this is important in itself, a sort of branding that shouldn't be forgotten
The "and pardoned" portion of the intro actually got me interested. The US has been pretty shit to Asian Americans through pretty much the entire time it's had them. Even progressive movements today tend to just assume they're all wealthy Chinese business people and just sort of forget Asia is the biggest continent on the planet, so they get hate from all sides.
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Asians are either POC or white depending on narrative.
Love listening to your videos before bed! Great content! Thank you!
I’m a marine living in the barracks. I’ve struggled with insomnia for so long. Thanks to you, I’m able to let the stories you tell settle the mind.
Oof. Good ol ‘Mercia did this family dirty as hell. For shame on us. That young woman didn’t want to be there, was literally forced to work at the radio station AND on top of that her parents were forced into a damn camp where her mother died.
This type of storytime content is actually among my favorite that you do because history is growing in importance to me as I age lest I repeat the mistakes of my forefathers. Thanks for shining a light on this clever lady during this time in particular and may we not make the same mistake with our Russian brothers and sisters that we did with Orphan Annie, may she rest in peace.
Among us
Its always crazy hearing about these historical events and then hearing that the people involved with it died after you were born
This is quite similar to what my great-grandfather went through during the Winter War. He was indigenous and living in Russia during the war, and since he was indigenous he was treated like trash by the government. He was forced to be a spy for Russia and ended up imprisoned in Finland due to this. The guy never had a choice yet he was punished for it all the same. Sad to hear this happens everywhere to such different people as well.
I love you so much in the most non obsessive way, thank you so much for all your content. You are one of the best channels I know that are currently on UA-cam! ❤
It’s very strange, how much she loved the USA, in spite of how it treated her.
It doesn’t seem like she was treated like a citizen, treated with respect, given basic human rights or ever welcome there.
Japan was practically as bad. She was just born American.
At the end it was still her home
And anyway, why should she hate the US, when it only was the government that was to blame really.
28:57 wendigoon that time stamp you said the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard you say you said (and due to public outcry because that’s the only reason anything good in government ever happens ) dumbest things you ever said I have a bunch of examples public outcry caUsed the media and government to mark concerned parents that were voicing frustration about books that were put into their library by a school comity who were hardcore leftist btw these kids are 11 at youngest 14 at oldest the books were talking about sexual material like one book they had called gender quee*r that talked about how to young men were finding their sexuality talking about how to give echother a blow j*b btw this is right next to the entrance of the library on the shelf any kid could of checked it out another example a dads daughter was rap*d in high school and since the person was a trans he/her whatever a bunch of men and women who support trans fame into the school during the hearing he was having with the school board and started berating him when he was trying to have a public meeting with them and then the school board who also had similar opinions started being rude and cutting the parent off (a white male and his daughter just got rap*d at their school ) well needless to say the dad got mad and they called security to escort him out with force body slammed him and carried him out while the people who support trans clapped so like no media and the government do not mix well and are not good wendigoon @wendigood
I have to admire her tenacity and integrity throughout her life. She went through tough times for a decent portion of her life but she persevered.
Wendigoon! The man that proves you can be a good Christian and love creepy true crime
@Sense I didn't even know that this was a trend. Glad it caught on
@@kidflashclone that’s a bot account ignore it. Also yeah. I think people forget that us Christian’s kinda created horror and then abandoned it during the satanic panic of the 90s. Like how many horror stories come from Christian nations? Frankenstein, Dracula, werewolves, etc. like we all know the paranormal exists so naturally stories of ghouls and ghosts and demons follow soon after. And then the writers come along and do their thing. Dante’s inferno being the most well known Christian horror
@@SymphonyZach Straight facts! Let's not forget that there is much scandalous activity in the Bible from murder to risque situations. Christians certainly don't condone it, but we are good at describing it!
@@SymphonyZach That's a really interesting take honestly haha. Makes sense tho!
Yes i knew they existed like myself but didn't expect such a great yt channel
This was super awesome and well made! It's kinda funny cause we have been learning about WWII in school and Tokyo Rose was briefly mentioned, it seems interesting but we only glossed over it, and then you come out with this in depth story! Thanks sincerely, your videos are always really entertaining and cover interesting topics
"Go see your family in Japan" They said
"It'll be fun" They said.
Iva Toguri would also share what little food and meds she was able to obtain with MAJ Cousens and other POWs attached to the studio, who would then smuggle it to US and Allied prisoners in the camps. It wasn’t much, but it was all she could do, and it’s probably best not to imagine what the Kempeitei would have done to her if she was caught.
That woman was an American hero, and what was done to her is a national disgrace.
meanwhile monsters like Shiro Ishi got away scott free
Wendigoon, you're so fuckin awesome. This is the kind of content you put out that makes me proud to come back again and again. Spilling truths, giving peace and opening eyes. Keep these coming. Thank you. ❤
This story is so messed up and this videos outro brought tears to my eyes. I would’ve loved to have the opportunity to meet this woman, she seemed so kind and she sounded so optimistic.
the fact that people in the 60/70s were calling out the racism shows just how awful the bias was
Loved the video and learning about the history . Very tragic and sad story , but a story that should be told hopefully we can learn from mistakes that were made in the past
Thank you for telling this story! I had no idea about it... it's so heartbreaking but I'm glad to know about Eva now!! May she and Felipe rest in peace, they really deserve it...
Thank you brother for telling her story in a thoughtful and honest manner. Great video
And once more in the story, we can see where the scummy innate nature of the media sensationalizing a story ruins lives.
This might be stupid but I like how this old military sitcom called “baba black sheep” used Tokyo Rose. She was in the background of the base scenes or maybe a character would turn on the radio and hear her broadcast. Was a really cool way they used real history.
Great video. I want to say, if you're going to have similar old film clips in your future WWII video(s), it would be nice to have captions along with them as they're very muffled and difficult to understand at times. They were a great addition here, even if I couldn't understand every word
I do feel the same way so thank you for sharing this wonderful woman’s story with us. Wish I could have met her. So sorry for what all was done to this beautiful amazing lady.
Ilove that you talk about stuff like this. As someone who loves history but doesn't look into much (idk ...why I should tho), I love learning much more obscure things that never would've been talked about on a bigger scale. This was sad but....Iva was so strong. Like wow
I wish I'd known about her earlier, she seemed like such a cool woman. It's these kinds of stories that I wish were taught in American history classes. Thank you for bringing her story to light! :)
I just squealed so loud my 3 year old daughter came running in yelling "what mamma???"
I remember when I was little and I was looking up the meaning of the Pack-A-Punch weapons names and the upgraded PM63 was, "Tokyo and Rose" so I chose to look it up and found out the back story of the whole situation.
Honestly, I still see this story as inspiring even though she ended up being screwed over by the government. She was able to have such a chipper attitude even in times of hardship, and she was a real patriot, with a lot of strength of character. I choose to remember her story for the person she was and not for the way the state disrespected her.
"They're just a German, you know, being a German." I know what you were trying to say, but that cracked me up
I wasn’t expecting that inhuman post war treatment of Ava. That’s really sad and ridiculous 😢
Have you ever thought about covering the aftermath of either nuclear bomb? From the accounta ive read its absolutely horrifying. Alligator people, the sky going up in a blinding flash, the horrors of radiation poisioning. Theres so much to unpack i bet it would be a great topic